Homestuck

>>83001561
It was 2012, Kickstarter was young, and impressionable teens didn't know any better.

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>>83001561
Or you can just be not retarded.

I've given money to Pillars of Eternity, Shovel Knight and Hyper Light Drifter, and so far my biggest dissapointment was PoE just being pretty good. Homestuck was always a poor choice if you knew anything about game development.

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>>83001749
This.

I gave to the Undertale Kickstarter because I wanted the game. Toby gave me a working demo that delivered on the gameplay so I threw him ten bucks(getting a copy of Undertale in the process)

Then again, his Kickstarter goal was only like 50k, so there really wasn't that much risk with it to begin with

Why the hell did hussie do that many hiatuses for "working on hiveswap" when he isn't even writing it?

except it prob wouldve been pretty good if TOG didnt fuck him over and did their damn job

>>83002374
Writing design docs I assume.

>>83001561
If you gave money to a kickstarter with no models, no test build of the game, no screenshots, or no demo video, you deserve to get scammed.

There are plenty of legitimate kickstarters, and plenty of scam ones. The scams are incredibly easy to spot if you're not retarded.

>>83001561
lmao i dont give a single shit about the money i gave. hussie already repaid me in entertainment value and also im not poor so who gives a fuck

it would've been hard to predict the decline that happened afterwards however

>>83002590

you don't sound very confident

>>83002714
that's the regular who thinks Act 7 was a good ending
he can't be reasoned with

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>>83002590
>lmao i dont give a single shit about the money i gave. hussie already repaid me in entertainment value and also im not poor so who gives a fuck

>>83002590
shut up ipgd

>>83001561
15 FPS

>>83002145
The success of Toby "Don't Call Me Radiation" Fox is the closest thing Hussie will have to a legacy

characters in homestuck that deserve a happy ending:

>>83002967
no one, they were all forced into their specific configuration of moral decisions by paradox space

>>83002775
no, thats me. i quit reading serially during the troll arc ages ago, i wasnt even about when the kickstarter happened

>>83002958
Why doesn't he want to be FwugRadiation anymore? I especially liked the Fwug part because it sounded like a garbled fug.

>>83002967
Jade

>>83002989
well if you're you then I guess that means that >>83002590 is ipgd

>>83002992
I don't think he's said

I guess it's because he's finally starting to realize that he can be successful under his own terms and can dissociate himself from other people's projects

Did people donate to the kickstarter because they cared about the game? I thought it was to get scalemates and tarot cards.

>>83003092
I never donated but I wanted that game bro shirt

Toby was credited as Radiation on the Collide albulm tbf

>>83003038
im enjoying the irony that someone is asserting that irrational person who doesnt use capitals must be me given how many times ive been Caught as ipgd since act 7 came out for the same reason

>>83003337
just being irrational doesn't cut it though
you have to be irrational + a sycophant to be ipgd

andrews great his dick is huge and normally colored

>>83003464
calling hussie "andrew" is a great ipgd-like trait too

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>>83003464
I'm seriously trying to think of how an eggplant dick would look like and in all honestly it sounds pretty disgusting

>>83003405
being called a sycophant makes me roll my eyes given how much ive posted about how fucking pitiful a6a6i5 was, and act 6 in general. but thats how anonymity works and fuck the idea of using a name

>>83002992
People dont use the same nickname they used as kids/teenagers, its natural.

>>83002992
does fwug mean anything?

Man, hst is fucking dead

>>83004210
Freeware Underground, an old Earthbound modding site or something.

>>83004559
AHAHAHAHA YOU FUCKED UP

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>>83001561
Problem Sleuth fan that wasn't into Homestuck at first and has been waiting for it to end since it started.

Is it finally over?
Is Hussie going to maybe start working on something new that might not be as boring or about kids? Literally everything else he did was amazing, but I just can't fucking get into homestuck, I can't believe how long I've been waiting for him to do something new with MSPA, holy fucking shit its been too long.

>>83004425
we could always talk about fantrolls

>>83004559
Skipped ahead? From where?

>>83001561
http://pastebin.com/MyVyCQWx

Reposting from last thread

>>83004617
MSPA is fucking dead mate

RIP

>>83004425
It's weird, sometimes threads blow the fuck up and other times they just wither like this. I don't think it has to do with the time, though.

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>>83004618
Did someone say fantrolls?

>>83002550
It wasn't a scam on Hussie's part though, he had every intention of delivering on his promises but the Odd Gentlemen screwed him out of the money.

Is that the actual design of the main troll character? That's fucking gay as hell and screams Fantroll with how complicated the horns are. He looks like a retarded hipster deer. At least the human looks simple and cute

>>83002967
All the characters that were killed off early because they weren't in the story long enough to become festering piles of shit.
And Roxy because Roxy is cute.

>>83004762

Andrew's piss-poor decision making skills in action still.

>>83004617
mspa is done, hiveswap has potential but theres no guarantee of it being good at all. and its about homestuckish stuff. so you should probably give up on hussie doing anything else you like

>>83004727
>posts canon

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>>83004871
;^)

>>83004788
it's troll dave with antlers, it's a dumb fucking design

>>83004830
No, man, Homestuck isn't even his magnum opus. He said as much.

>>83004904
Troll Dave with Kanaya's hair and a stupid hoodie

>>83004929
What was that, 2010?

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>>83003530
Remove Gamzee. Problem solved.

Shit did I miss the new selfie pic from loki?

>>83004929
whatever he does next its a long way off. he probably has enough of a portfolio and fanbase now to get a chance to run something much bigger. but who knows when or what that would be. or whether it will be good.

>>83005113
He'll never not be The Homestuck Guy, though. Even after finishing the comic, he's working on a game about it and has Homestuck 2.0

How will he ever truly escape his creation if he keeps feeding the beast?

>>83005224
he just has to make something bigger. its possible. he has the ability, but he also has the ability to make total shit. who knows

Yo, gimme some lewd fics stat!

>>83005331
Ok

What characters and activities do you like?

>>83005315
He barely had the ability to end his own comic, and displayed more lack of ability in managing to make a simple point and click game. He needs to face facts that he's just a writer and idea guy.

>>83004929
>Homestuck isn't even his magnum opus.
The best work he has ever done is obviously Problem Sleuth, PS is fucking amazing

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>>83004830
>>83004673
>MSPA is fucking dea

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I'll always remember you, Hussie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmUQOGtV71Y

>>83004830
>mspa is done
>>83004673

>wait for what feels like 6 years
>he isn't doing anything after Homestuck
Well fuck me
thats a real kick in the dick. I've literally been waiting this whole time for him to wrap this shit up and move on to something with a cool theme like his older work

>>83005331
One day John was just hanging out talking to Terezi and Vriska, when Roxy snuck up to them and picked him up, staring at the troll girls expressionlessly the entire time. She hoisted the boy above her head, all conversation stopped - except John's, which was nothing but a long string of objections. Roxy then backed away with her prize, fading into the shadows with her roguish voidey powers. Neither of the trolls said a word for a solid minute.

>>83005331
Your mom gave my nuts a tongue bath so long they got all wrinkly and pruney

o w8, you said fiction, my bad B^)

>>83005643
We'll, he might; but he'll probably spend the next few years on the game and after that he'll probably just fuck off into the sun like a big piece of garbage

>>83005426
but he is a really really good comedy writer and idea guy. maybe he'll end up on another project where he can make use of that but also have some kind of fucking editor. we can hope

>>83005482
The best thing he ever made was And It Don't Stop

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>>83005784
>Not Inappropriate Time For Ham

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Do we really want Modern Hussie to make a new MSPA?

He's been over-taken by "meta"

He'll introduce the MC and immediately make shipping jokes and then turn him gay and then kill him off and directly address the audience about the narrative implications of killing off a main character and then revive the main character and then introduce Calliopeborn, a character that represents the Homestuck Fanbase wanting his new project to be Homestuck, and he'll have Homestuck references "ironically", all of which poke out the absurdity of expecting Homestuck references in a comic that's not Homestuck

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>>83005784
>And It Don't Stop
That was good, but it wasn't PS levels of "holy shit what a ride, I would re-read this all right now if it wasn't 50,000 pages long" amazing

And it don't stop really was pretty rad though, its too bad he didn't expand on it that much.
His team special olympics comics always get a laugh out of me too

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>>83005891
>>83005849
>Team Special Olympics
Aw shit, is it that time again?

>>83005784
No it isn't, all of Hussie's attempts at traditional comics range from mediocre to bad, you're just a plain old hipster in the perfect sense of the word.

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>>83005924

>>83005933
I can barely hear you over the sound of huge dicks slapping your tender mouth

>>83005969
He's right though, his traditional comics just don't compare to his webcomics/MSPA work.

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>>83005924
Hell yeah motherfucker

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How did Hussie get such a smokin hot girlfriend?

>>83005871
I'd read it.

>>83006059
I wouldn't call her smokin hot. She's alright but she wouldn't turn my head or anything.

>>83005871
That sounds so painfully cancerous and probable I want you to stop right now

>>83006119
shes ok looking and she knows memes, shes 4chans dream girl

>>83006360
memes are not actually dealmaker for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmesXO7eAcg
:(

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>>83005962

>>83006360
Isn't that his old girlfriend though? Did she know memes?

I thinks she's pretty. I guess that must just be my type.

>>83006360
>implying
I just want a female john.

>>83006431
yes
she knows tumblr memes and homestuck memes

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>>83006417

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>>83002967
Eridan and Caliborn. That's it.

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>>83005962
>>83006417
These are too *sarcastically* unfunny, it's hard to really appreciate them when you've been on the Heathcliff side of the fence.

>>83006431
andrew would never touch a girl who didnt know memes

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>>83006452
Well you're in luck because Joey is not female John, she's actually female Caliborn. The end of Hiveswap is committing genocide and causing the downfall of the Troll race

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>>83006569
'wow this hiveswap game is a total rip off of undertale' 'the fish girl's character design is just copied from undyne'

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>>83006594

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post yfw you will never be andrew hussie

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>>83006686
how am i supposed to react to these? am i supposed to laugh?

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>>83006752
You're supposed to unlaugh.

>>83006752
i think you're supposed to be furious at the things at the bottom right

>>83006752
The exact way you react to the S_O comics

>>83006360
Fuck that, my dream girl is just someone who isn't crazy and won't try to fucking stab me when we have an argument

>>83006863
My dream girl is someone who is crazy and will end my miserable fucking existence for me since I can't work up the nerve

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>>83006761

>>83006863
>not getting good and learning to dodge

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>>83006902

>>83006762
like a sort of seizuresque inward breathing fit?

>>83006752
You're supposed to weep at the consistently masterful application of no actual jokes ever. Every time, a situation with joke potential is created, and then the joke's deliveryman dumps your awaited package in a trashbin while you watch from the window. It looks exactly like an accident, without a trace of irony or insincerity, but he does it every day for 40 years.

>>83006651
>I can't believe this "Home Struck" ripped Megalovania off of Toby!

>>83006918
Yes. Nothing else can make you feel the negative laughter emotion.

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When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a.....

>>83006988
im pretty sure i was describing a panic attack

>>83006930
reading this description made me laugh out loud at the image. i want to enjoy the comic now but then i go back and look at it and its like staring into a black hole. i dont know if i have the emotional fortitude to be able to handle it.

who is this "Honest Uck" and why does he have horns and gray skin

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>toxic masculinity
were andrew's testicles removed sometime within the last few years?

>>83006930
Don't forget that the original deliveryman died 15 years ago, and that his nephew picked it up after him and continued on without anyone noticing any difference.

>>83007338
i'm a close friend of hussie... let's just say those tampons weren't for ipgd....

>>83007338
Toxic masculinity is a thing though. Like getting into a pointless fight just because it's macho.

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Shit I totally missed the alive parralel

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>>83007453
Oh hey
Jade initially went through the one from her house right? So this'll be the one the battleship comes out of?

>>83007435
That's just called "being an asshole".

>>83007453
sup LB

>>83007453
Oh praise Jesus, save us with your ruse cruise of comic discussion Liveblogger, things have been garbage all day.

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>>83002967
Gamzee

>>83007435
What about toxic femininity?

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>>83007453
Jesus is Sawtooth like 15 feet tall
>>83007568
yeah the window he's holding thats what I mean by the thing the battleship will come out of
>>83007540
Don't take that tone with me young man
>>83007558
>ruse cruise
Just 1 day I'd like to talk about the comic without this

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>>83002967
The character who grew the most.
And then turned into a weenie, and then didn't grow at all???

>>83007631
what like putting on so much lipstick you die of the fumes

>>83007631
Toxicity is poison + predjuice

Women can only be venomous, check your antidote privledge

>>83007643
>Just 1 day I'd like to talk about the comic without this
No.

Not that I care, your presence seems to be the only thing keeping things vaugley not shit around here.

>>83007643
liveblogger your posts highhandedly revive these threads

>>83007643
i thought you were busy until sunday

not that i'm complaining about you posting here

and i'll take whatever tone i like. i'm probably older than you, anyways

>>83007643
dirk's incredibly round face always looks fucking weird to me despite it being the same face everyone in the comic has. its probably all the sharp edges in his hair/glasses

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>>83007643
Dammit jake

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Alright. I got fed up with all the bullshit and just skipped ahead to Collide. Is that really all there is? It kind of sucked.

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hussie created aradia!
so he is alright

sometimes i forget how good act 6 act 3 is

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>>83007836
I Love that this is Roxy's phone bg

>>83007919
I wish someone hastily edited this picture to change Jake into John

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>>83007919
There are like 4 vaugely penis structures in this
Fucking astounding

>>83008009
What about the baby

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>>83008048
Damn this is super cute
>caliope
What a cute name

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>>83008009
As hastily as I possibly could. You're welcome :)

>>83008048
You figured it out, Caliborn has four penises

Latest version of the spreadsheet Heroic Title test is live. Questions have been reworded, a hard gender lock has been included and perhaps more.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/df0uhyl1ao52cv9/Heroic_Title_Test_0.4.xlsx

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>>83006569
I'm curious.

>>83008160
You should really use a tripcode, a lot of people are pretending to be you

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>>83008160
Huh

>>83001749
This in a nutshell. I've only given to one Kickstarter, and am recently considering giving to another. The first one has suffered delays but has not stopped giving status reports, no crazy last-minute shuffles, still clear and promising results. The devs had released several excellent games already and are making a sequel, whereas Hussie has never made a game before and his outsourcing strategy went up in flames.

>>83008209
Who cares
It's painfully clear who the real Liveblogger is if you're not fucking stupid
Stop forcing the tripcode meme

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>>83008009
Why not.

>>83003530
Karkat is out of place in the circle

>>83008299
perfect

>>83008261
This reveal turned her from being the worst character in Homestuck, to being the worst character in Homestuck by a smaller margin.

>>83007880
imposter

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>>83008261
>someone finally gets the weapon swapping gimmick
>its not a main kid
Dangit
Also my timeline is kind of fucked be right back

>>83008468
kanaya already had that gimmick

>>83008575
Kanaya's not one of the main kids, she's one of the main trolls.

>>83008194
>Page of Breath
>I'm also a Taurus.

Dammit. This thing is rigged.

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I love the homestuck fandom 10/10

>>83008897
jesus, homestuck ERPers don't fuck around, do they
or rather they get right to the fucking around

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>>83008897
This one was always my favourite.

>>83008710
I've had some moderately astounding results with the previous iterations of the test, but this may take the cake.

>>83008468
Hey Livebloggy, it'd be interesting to see the results you get on the title test in light of your commentary. Wanna give it a whirl? >>83008194

>>83008897
why do people have such shitty kinks. thank fuck people keep theirs to themselves in normal society

>>83004816
Like Hussie could know that would happen.

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>>83008897

>>83009006
Actually, it's strange. If I lock it to Male class, it turns into Thief of Breath. Which seems kind of off because both canon Pages were male, and both canon Thieves were female.

You sure this thing is tuned correctly?

>>83008194
>Mage of Void
i have no idea what this is supposed to mean or how it works

>>83008194
Hmm, Thief of Blood. I would say neither part really adds up individually, but it's not a classpect I've seen expanded upon so fuck knows what it'd actually consist of.

>>83008194
Mage of Time/Void
I know what Time and Void are but no idea what a fucking mage does.

Hussie's "friends" have horrible taste and it pisses me off they had so much influence on a story I used to love.

>>83009343
is it easier to believe this than accept that the same andrew was responsible for act 4 and a6a6i5

>>83008194
What does "Proof is found where there's no-one to trust" mean?

>>83009280
I always liked the interpretation that a Mage player has a talent/understanding of their aspect in some form which they use to provide favourable benefits for their allies, to their own detriment. It's one of the few links between Meulin and Sollux relative to their aspects.

>>83009343

they were never in hussie's league aside from a few of the art and music guys

its not good to spend time in a congratulatory pool of mediocrity

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>>83008995
>shipped a nepeta sex slave

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>>83008194
>seer of void

>>83009493
I'm guessing you can see the absence of things, so if you can't see something you know it exists?

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>>83008468
Man being Davesprite is fucking suffering
Imagine being the only guy to make it out alive from your timeline surrounded by people who are copies of the people you knew in everywhere but they aren't actually 'them'
God thats fucked up.
>>83008194
Knight of Hope
Neat

>>83009533
seer of void, like all seers, can tell the future
seer of void would probably just be someone who sees things that don't exist == things that haven't happened

>>83009533
basically I'd have to be blind for it to work, or something. Cool stuff, yo.

>>83009536
>Imagine being the only guy to make it out alive from your timeline surrounded by people who are copies of the people you knew in everywhere but they aren't actually 'them'
Just wait until later!

>Knight of Hope
That fits perfectly with what you've been doing, weaponizing hope to keep these threads alive.

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>>83008194
Huh, in other tests I've done, I've gotten Sylph of Blood and Sylph of Space. This gave me Sylph of Void. At least I know I'm a Sylph?

I get to heal... nothing...

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>>83009536
Oh shit

>>83009536
>Imagine being the only guy to make it out alive from your timeline surrounded by people who are copies of the people you knew in everywhere but they aren't actually 'them'

Haa haa, hee hee, hoo hoo boy, this is really starting to burt me.

>>83008194
>always got mage of doom
>now mage of space

alright. at least the one constant is the thing we know nothing about

>>83009187
You were a Maid, Sylph or Witch beforehand. Those are female exclusive class, so when you changed it to Male it shunted you to the next best fit. That happened to be Thief, which is available to both genders.

>>83009204
Hah, fitting!

>>83009222
Well, walk me through your thoughts.

>>83009280
There's two things we know about Mages. One is that via a Hussie-approved official, Mages "foster" in some sense. The other is that, once all the other things we know about the classes fall into place, Mages are the best fit for the active counterpart of Seers (assuming that Hussie has revealed classes in pairs exclusively, and that he isn't hiding counterparts). Make of that what you will.

Also, would you describe yourself as an orderly individual?

>>83009413
It was difficult to word that question, and I'm ready to alter it if it confuses more people. The question is meant to measure how much you agree with the idea that, you can better (or only) see someone's true nature in a trust-neutral situation - ie when there's no bias of peer groups and the like. Wording is very important in this test, a part of that including phrase length - I don't want bloated and wordy statements. So that was the best I settled for.

>>83009600
So perhaps they can see options not immediately obvious to other seers? Looking into the unknown so to speak, that'd be cool as like a wild card Seer. I could imagine some amazing fraymotifs where they abuse a bunch of stuff that shouldn't exist.

>>83009536
I like that timeline diagram, nice and simple, good stuff.

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>>83009668
Okay so the meteor lands on post-scratch earth?
This'll be fun to see
And before people hop on my nuts thats the same statue the empress used to murder the shit out of post-scratch dave and rose

>>83009536
what the fuck is going on in that picture

>>83009536
>Imagine being the only guy to make it out alive from your timeline surrounded by people who are copies of the people you knew in everywhere but they aren't actually 'them'
I recommend copying this onto your desktop and rereading it once you finish the comic

>>83005871
This is so accurate it hurts.
Early Homestuck seemed to know where it was going with the meta. Things like WV giving commands; it was incredible.
Act 5 did things like both make fun of and unironically focus on shipping, but it was still acceptable.
Then Calliope and Caliborn happened. And look where we are now: A character got the ability to retcon the story. The word has been used at least once in-comic.
Siiigh.

>>83007435
Honestly, I wouldn't have minded an unironic discussion of toxic masculinity in Homestuck if it was well done. It's a social issue like any other.
But the way Dave talked about it felt completely shoehorned in. Less like it was something Hussie thought would improve his story and create meaningful discussion, and more like a thing he did out of a bizarre sense of duty, or so he could point and say "look! I'm aware this is a real thing!" for the approval of a handful of people.
Or maybe it's just me.

>>83009536
Seconding >>83009846

>>83009795
There are millions of sbahjified liberties

>>83009795
>Okay so the meteor lands on post-scratch earth?
Not so much lands as it is placed there. Remember that right now the meteor is heading to the post-scratch kids' session, which is separate from their universe were Earth is.

>>83009795
IT WAS EARTH ALL ALONG

>>83009536
its better to make a timeline of what happens in certain universes and seperate timelines for stuff that happens in sburb sessions, this shit makes no sense

>>83009744
>You were a Maid, Sylph or Witch beforehand

I was a Page. When I turn on Male, I become a Thief, when I turn on Female, I become a Witch.

>>83009878
it kind of feels like Hussie started thinking "shit, Homestuck is going to be part of my legacy, but the characters say 'retard' a lot... I better put some good morals in for the kids"

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>>83009493
>>83009533
I sponsor this interpretation of the power. Ultimately I proffer the (general only) advice I put into this rp guide. (ironically the literal classpect section doesn't completely conform with the reasoning I used in the test, but still mostly).

>>83009536
Very interesting, thanks for taking it! Liveblogger: valiant defender of angels. Also did you make that image?

>>83009651
>>83009702
Does that include previous editions of this spreadsheet test? Fascinating that one side of your Classpect would be so firm regardless.

>>83009744
>>83009204
i tried it again and got thief of void

that's cool i guess

>>83009985
why the fuck is this image 4188 pixels wide
it's wider than both of my monitors side by side
who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to force people to horizontally scroll to read shit

>>83009924
Now that's me being an idiot, I somehow turned the "Male" you said into Female. That said, what you're describing does appear to be a glitch. I'll have to go back over that. For now, you're a Page Harry.

>>83009744
>Well, walk me through your thoughts.
Well that's the problem, I'm not sure how to interpret a Thief of Blood. What connection is there with actively stealing bonds and vitality? Outside of like, stamina drain I guess from a theoretical mechanical standpoint. I'm not really sneaky, in fact i'm rather bold when pushed into activeness but passive as a default, which doesn't seem to fit with something like a Thief. But perhaps I'm just not interpreting it fully, the only Thief I can think of is Vriska and she's so inconsistent it's hard to judge the finer points of the class.

As for the test itself, one observation that may be relevant to me at least is a lot of the questions focusing on team based interaction talk about ability to interact with a team, but not the actual intent or motivations linked to that. By this I mean, I'm good at leading groups and can work with others, but I don't put much value at all in doing so. There's a couple of questions on coping as an individual but perhaps a few more focused on intent in a group scenario could help even things out?

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>>83009795
Thats like the 3rd time Jane, step it the fuck up
>>83009802
Its a timeline, follow the flow fucknuts
>>83009846
Terrible, Davesprite has a hard enough life already, I can't image the poor guy having to deal with that shit again.
>>83009985
Yep, thanks illict photoshop!

>>83009846
Oh fuck me I just realized why this is so damning, I swear I've tried to block the retcon out of my mind since it happened, given the implications suggested there.

>>83010041
You're the first person to say that about the image other than myself. I first uploaded it and then immediately thought "damn, this is going to be horrible to read", but I checked and for several threads here and on /tg/ it was fine.

I think I made a more vertical edit at one point, although it meant there was less room for the Felt. I'd rather go back and make another, and replace the lengthy classpect bit with something more empirically grounded.

>>83010004
You're certainly Voidy alright.

>>83009912
YOU'VE FINALLY MADE A MONKEY

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>HSG so bored that they're watching someone pretend to read the comic for the first time

>>83009927
i think its most likely that as his fanbase got bigger and bigger it was increasingly clear that huge numbers of real 13 year olds were actually trying to live and act like his 2.5 dimensional semi-psychopathic parodies, and andrew freaked out by the idea that that was His Fault.

homestuck was made for people who knew it was all a joke and somehow ended up loved by legions of kids who took it seriously. so he cut the irony to try and fix the damage he had done. but it didnt fit, and he wasn't good at unironic stuff or morals. and so we got a condtradictory mess

>>83010212
it actually helps us stay on topic

>>83009985
first time on the spreadsheet, a bunch of other tests years ago gave me MOD so i stuck with it. i'm super comfy in mage though, i fucking love rules and structure. maybe you should know that i answered the spreadsheet using exclusively 0, 3, 5, 8 or 10 for strongly (dis)agree, somewhat (dis)agree and neutral

>>83010113
>I can't image the poor guy having to deal with that shit again.
Something a lot worse happens, I'm sorry in advance for a number of reasons.

>>83010212
Homestuck is dead. This is all we can do.

>>83010212
hol up

>>83010272
Make new content you lazy cunt.

>>83010212
>>83010237
When this Liveblogger is finished another will rise. In this way, Homestuck will never truly die.

>>83010308
I'm not Hussie.

>>83009846
>>83009846
It's so empty though since no one even cares. They just welcome the new people and don't even bother resurrecting the Roxy that died in front of them.

>>83008194
>Rogue/Sylph/Witch of Space/Time/Void
Uhhh, okay

>>83010074
You're leaping straight to "what is my mechanical power", when it's made clear that Heroic Titles define the role you'll play in the story moreso than any particular power. The power structures we've seen are good guidelines, but the narrative roles are crisp and clear.

Give us any or all moments you remember of Vriska and Meenah being sneaky. Now give us any or all moments of them being bold. Yeah. You can't go into this with a bunch of definitions for class and aspects from outside the comic. Thieves are dominant and acquisitive, not just literally or even necessarily criminals and pilferers. A businessman who loves businessing fits the Thief bill.

That said, if you feel you are passive then this could be an issue. You've have to explain more what you mean on the group/team questions stuff.

>>83010226
Oh man, I hope that's not the case. It's much easier to imagine the guy just screwed up immensely due to burnout and critical life events at the worst time. The idea that he was genuinely trying to right some wrongs due to misinterpretation from newer fans is heartbreaking.

>>83010379
You are Roxy, Jade, Kanaya and Damara all at once. In essence, the perfect waifu.

>>83001561
I donated to a band on kickstarter and got a copy of the band's new album when it came out, along with a copy of the two band member's previous solo albums.

There are some decent perks to contributing to some kickstarters. Most of them are b.s. though.

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>>83010113
NO DAMMIT

>>83010378
they dont bother because vriska time scouts the existence of the GO! J & R

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>>83008194
Eh, I'll stick with the one that gave me me Prince of Doom, the most OP combo possible.

>>83010422
Vriska did a bunch of awful shit without anyone ever noticing. Like creating Bec Noir.
Man, I'm still disappointed that Tavros never let it slip nonchalantly and cause everyone to give Vriska weird looks. Would have been hilarious.

>>83010479
Can't escape the Red Miles.

>>83010456
I got it good.

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>>83010479
Carry on my wayward son

>>83010238
That use of very strict numbering and coding does feel very Doomy. Maybe if you took the test again you might just get that? The counter-intuitive advice I'd give is to use the omitted numbers and see if that leads you to rectitude. Or just see what happens altogether.

>>83010113
It's certainly better than illicit GIMP! Namewise as well as in function.

>>83010379
Jesus Christ. That is one unlikely result. Yowza. I'm going to put you as a Rogue of Void for now, but talk to me a little about your interests.

>>83010492
Its still the dead body of their friend, why would they not resurrect her when it's as easy as Jane waving her hand.

I don't think you GET crowdfunding.

There is no risk. I won't go bankrupt if I chuck 10 dollars at a neat concept. I'll just be a little bummed that it happens to fail, and move on with my life.

It's basically like buying a lottery ticket. Except your chances of "winning" increases as more people play.

>>83010616
tell that to the two people who spent 10,000 on it

>>83010479
Straight through the womb.

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>>83010479
>dem legs
Damn Roxy is hot

Man I've had some parties that've ended up like this, god speed Dick Strider

>>83010422
>A businessman who loves businessing fits the Thief bill.
Yes I suppose the typical intepretation of a Thief is something sneaky, so I let that cloud my interpretation of the Class. Truth be told I forgot who the other Thief was, but now thinking on it there's still the issue with being the active boss/center of attention that wouldn't fit in with me as a person. I'd much prefer the number 2 or 3 role in a group format, where you have influence on decision but a gap in which you can disassociate yourself with the act itself.

I think I'll try it again but with this anons suggested framework for decisions >>83010238 I think I spread my responses out poorly. I'll see if anything stands out/changes this time around though my intent is to answer with the same justifications as before, just crisper.

>>83010479
YOu CAN'T. ESCAPE. THE MILES.

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>>83010641
I'm not crying you're cyring

>>83010641
>Dave's deadpan expression

He's the first one to hear his ancestor talk, right? Barring Jane writing to Jake

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>>83008194
always and forever

>>83010719
he doesn't realize that's his bro yet.

>>83010637
they got their reward, they got in the comic for 1 panel. if they wanted true relevance they should have sprung for the 100k tier.

fuck, they even have character models in hiveswap, that's far above and beyond the original tier.

>>83010186
so, i guess like roxy, i can create things, but i use them for myself instead of giving to others. and i was thinking of the handlekind abstratus: if specibus change based on the changes made to the weapon currently being used, could the handlekind abstratus be the most powerful thief specibus if a thief of void can create any weapon to use, as long as i can attach the handle to it? UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS

>>83010776
wasn't 100k they survive for more than one panel
so two panels

>>83010499
If you understand how titles work, you understand that no classpect is worth more or less than any other. In any case, I'd be happy if you took the test.

>>83010532
Indeed, that is a prime example of Vriska being sneaky. It is also an example of Vriska being bold. Now tally up all the other examples of Vriska being bold.

>let it slip
What?

>>83010666
I think I'm starting to get a feel for where you might fit on the scale. Tell me, if you were given the opportunity to improve a game you like, either by increasing the amount and variety of content or tightening up the balance of what exists, what would you pick?

>>83010751
>>83010499
where can i make these

>>83010451
i think one example is how tumblrs sidebars soured him extremely hard on the idea of the kids having lists of interests and following them to the letter. that was what led him to start subverting the interests in act 6 act 5 - look! jake never really liked adventure at all, and trying to define himself and force himself into a box to be 'interesting' was actually really unhealthy and got in the way of his development! - but the original readership always knew that shit was a joke, it wasn't a lesson we needed to be taught by someone who'd acted like they respected our intelligence up until that point

>>83009204
You are capable of obtaining knowledge of nothing, some sort of nothingness that is only relevant to yourself, possibly something you don't know about yourself? Only you could know, unfortunately that means none of us could ever know about it either.

Yay, not-Roxy Void players!

>>83010751
now if only hope players weren't always idiots
hussie's got a really positive outlook on life, doesn't he?

>>83010716
Dirk is so good at this point in the comic, he and Roxy are precious.

>>83007631
> What is 'Feminism', Alex?

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>>83010808
That's very literal. Class and Aspect combinations can sometimes yielf similar powers, but usually from the combination of clashing pairs (Sylph of Life and Prince of Doom for instance) rather than a small change. A Thief of Void takes the essence of the undefined, the unclear or the null and uses it for their gain. So imagine stealing darkness to use as a disguise, letting you act with impunity. Similarly, imagine stealing a shroud or covering from others to expose their activity.

>>83010873
You can fill them in with templates, I've got the lot of them. This image plus the pallettes.

>>83010868
Re: Vriska's bravado, yeah, I'm not disagreeing, just pointing that out.
>What?
Tavros is the only one who knew Vriska created Bec Noir, AFAIK. He could have mentioned it offhandedly in a conversation and accidentally unleashed hell.

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>>83010873
I made this like 3 years ago

>>83011043
Why you use both firefox and crhome?

>>83007435
That's putting the cart before the horse. Stupidity is responsible for the poor decision to prove one's manhood with a pointless and dangerous fight. Masculinity is merely the bauble being fought over.

>>83011039
Similarly, it's irrationality that leads to feminism. Feminism is just a convenient rallying label. The actual stated beliefs and principles of feminists are about as relevant to their actual habits and actions as the contents of the Bible to almost all Christians. Which is to say, relevant but at no point does the Bible mandate eating tea and cake with the vicar.

>>83011116
i still find the idea that the codpiece is a sburb-approved part of the bard costume totally ridiculous and hilarious

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>>83010716
If you see a Spider
You better fight Her

>>83010868
Tightening up the balance for sure, I'm a stickler for there not being outliers in competitve games, the ideal being a large pool of strong choices.

I did try the test again with the 0, 3, 5, 8, 10 system and the result was the same. However, it felt much easier to answer questions using this format and I would recommend it as I did alter the degree of some questions to a more definitive answer that fit more upon review. If it's of any help, I'm much bolder in a game scenario than a real one, but I can appreciate the benefits of passive support in both settings.

>>83008194
>Thief of Void
Huh, never gotten that before. I guess I'd either do nothing or ruin the session.

wait, when did the meenah walkarounds happen? Has LB powered through them already?

>>83011070
I know, but you didn't also point out the bold examples as underlined.

I see, yes. Tavros was too busy trying to copy Vriska by killing Grandpa to try and shame her about it - not that it would've worked, Vriska is shameless and everyone knew Vriska was a dangerous headcase. Then once his own plan blew up he was too riled-up about getting personal revenge on Vriska to think tactically.

>>83011133
Sometime about my Firefox is borked, and I can't log in to Youtube on it. Plus using google docs is quicker on Chrome. So I have it open for spreadsheets and checking subscriptions.

>>83011294
They come right after the series of flashes that LB is about to hit.

>>83011294
after this act

>>83011184
gamzee's bard costume is technically not official

>>83011294
We've got a slew of Enters before that happens. The last batch of really great updates, maybe.

>>83011325
my fav flash desu

>>83011333
cronus has the same outfit in hope colours in the ministrife, and rubs his cod-dick all over our prince

>>83011221
Words to live by liveblogger - remember them well

>>83011333
We've seen god tier cronus

I find the page outfit worse. Bards are at least silly

>>83010880
>but the original readership always knew that shit was a joke
What do you mean by that exactly? I do agree with the earlier sentiment though, subverted expectations increasing later into the comic at the expense of some characters development itself.This seemed to be the case with Vriska and Karkat in particular.

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>>83010808
You'll never be as cool as Roxy

>>83011184
I love that Hussie put in a Bard Quest reference despite the fact probably most of the fanbase wouldn't get it.

>>83011232
With all that in mind, I diagnose thee as a Prince. Funnily enough, Prince of Blood is what I got in previous versions of this test - I've actually yet to test myself with the current version. We're Title Buddies! :D (this is an excellent illustration of how shared or near-shared classpects can still be differing individuals by the by.)

The test will technically work if you input percentages, I should note. If you really wish, you could use 2.5 and 7.5 to get even more exact results. I value granularity of results and so will leave it as 1-10, knowing that 1-5ers can still fill the test in as it suits them.

>>83011284
There's another Thief of Void in this thread, have a read over that conversation.

>>83011459
>BRO'S katana
>Roxy uses it
>Not Dirk
>Not Dave
Bit salty tbqh

>>83011459
Roxy is literally a backstabbing bitch

>>83011493
Bro's Katana can only be used by badasses

Dirk is a baby and Dave is a literal whiny faggot by the time of Collide

>>83011380
well, it's similar

the codpiece might not be quite as ridiculous as gamzee's, and he definitely does not have the stupid hat

>>83011043
maybe... instead of stealing items from nothing, i could steal abilities/skills? man, i was not prepared for this outside the box thinking

>>83011476
Not percentages, decimals. Doh. I'm sure you knew what I meant.

>>83011571
>Dirk is a baby
Unite/Synchronize was the coolest shit anyone ever did in the comic this side of sitting confidently under a black hole.

>>83011428
we are old enough and aware enough to know that real people don't need a list of dumb interests like on the kids and trolls introduction page. its just a joke. but andrew apparently felt he had to teach the kids that lesson in the clearest terms.

>>83011493
Dirk and Dave don't have the Moxie

>>83011294
In order, Liveblogger is about to read:

Unite Synchronize, Caliborn:Enter, Openbound 1, John watching Con Air, Openbound 2, John fighting Jack and meeting Vriska, Openbound 3, Rose getting drunk and kissing Kanaya, Ministrife, Void, and then finally the start of Caliborn's game

Buckle up everybody. It only gets worse from here.

>>83011668
intermission 3 is a fucking ride isnt it

>>83009985
No, this is my first time with the spreadsheet. Other times were from some complicated Myer-Briggs-like personality test and an online classpect quiz.

This one was pretty cool, though, and I think I'll stick with the Void aspect. Could probably be like a field medic, healing people while moving around undetected/unnoticed.

>>83011574
Now why would you be able to steal abilities? The closest match to that power I could see is a Thief of Heart.

Void is largely disconnected from ability as a concept, but if anything leans towards the disabled - the nebulous, messed-up, neutralised.

>>83011476
>We're Title Buddies!
Whoda thunk it eh.

But I do have a couple of queries still such as, what makes the distinction between Prince and Thief in this instance in your mind? And how does it related to Blood?

I still think I'm too passive for such supposedly active classes, but again I'm not particularly well versed in how the Class system was frame in the actual comic, I was more focused on the Aspects.

>>83011668
>>83011713

Who wants to open betting on when she cracks and bails for the night.

Early favorites: Either after Openbound 2, when she realizes a third one is coming up, or after Vriskadventures, due to rage

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>>83011221
Okay I thought synchronize was just going to be a little miniflash at first.
God damn that was honestly pretty cool, a bummer we didn't get to see Roxy's DSL in action.
Also damn, I was honestly really sketchy there for a minute and actually started to buy into the homestuck sucks meme. Glad to see it was all bullshit.
So long as the vriska shit just stays a shitty irrelevant ghost/sideplot I think it'll be all gucci

>>83011718
Myers-Brigg is a self-confounded mess, so you can comfortably disregard any result from it or its derivatives, ever. The online classpect quiz was probably along the lines of a pop "who are you out of the Avengers" deal, which weirdly enough is still better than Myers Briggs. But the methodology in this spreadsheet is a straight upgrade from that.

As a Sylph of Void, you are gifted in making very slight and precise tweaks and adjustments to, and with, the indefined. General healing under the cover of shadows is within your purview, but so is using the murky TO heal. Or providing a concentrated shot of Void to render a teammate crucially intangible for several precise moments.

>>83011726
i suppose you're right about the heart thing

i'm still trying to wrap my head around how stealing nothingness to benefit myself works besides being an upgraded version of roxy's incorporeal powers

>>83011877
;-;7

>>83011636
Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up. I always found the way the introductions were handled so formulaically was rather odd, doubly so after the kids and monumentally so for the should-have-been secondary trolls and later characters.

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>>83011877
>vriska shit just stays a shitty irrelevant ghost/sideplot

>>83011877
>So long as the vriska shit just stays a shitty irrelevant ghost/sideplot I think it'll be all gucci
Now you're just trying to hurt us unnecessarily. What turned you into a bully, Liveblogger?

>>83011877
You have now earned the honour of watching it again. Make sure the right video is 2 seconds behind

www.youtubemultiplier.com/51740c3232295-s-synchronize-carry-on-my-wayward-son.php

>>83011877
>So long as the vriska shit just stays a shitty irrelevant ghost/sideplot I think it'll be all gucci
Just quit right now, family.

>>83011854
i think she's gonna panic during openbound and think the dancestors are going to be REAL MAIN CHARACTERS like the original trolls were and give up forever

can we pretend theyre the new main characters for fun purposes

>>83011877
This is the last good part. As soon as the intermission starts it's all over.

>>83011726

this guy here >>83011889

i'm like 1 number off in one of the values from being a thief of mind instead

i can easily see how that would work: stealing memories an experiences (perhaps thought reading?)

but i don't know how much i should try to fudge the results. so far it's been = Thief/Mage of Mind/Void

>>83011879
>to render a teammate crucially intangible for several precise moments.
That'd be fucking cool combined with a heavy hitter.

>>83011987
He's still got Caliborn's entry left

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>>83011877
>So long as the vriska shit just stays a shitty irrelevant ghost/sideplot I think it'll be all gucci

>>83012043
thats right before the intermission

>>83011979
Yeah, lets pretend the dancestors are absolutely crucial to the plot

>>83011775
Princes desire to rule, but are more attached to, and earnest about, their systems. A Prince finds it important for rules to be well-designed, and breaches of conduct to be addressed with pertinence. To destroy directly is to impart order, to bring the out-of-bounds in line. A Thief will either take a system for granted, or more likely will alter or mess with it. Thieves use systems without being sentimental about it, which is part of their masterful nature but also their paradoxically-primitive motivations and at times downfall.

I think I'll leave Blood unexplored for now, and let you work your way around it with what you now know of Princes and Thieves. You can deduce much of this from examples in te comic.

In the end, no system is perfect, and that includes this test. Still, it is possible you are less passive than you think. Passivity doesn't mean doing little, or waiting to react to stimulus, or the canon usage of the term as helpful or indirect. There are deeper meanings afoot.

>>83011961
>the kick right as dirk wakes up
Nice
>>83011905
>>83011942
>>83011958
>>83011976
>>83011976
>>83011987
Nice try fuckboys, I ain't falling for that again
I doubted once and get my asshole blown out
Never again

>>83012146
ive always believed in you live-chan but my cruiseometer is off the fucking charts right now

>>83012146
Anon that never posts here, towards the end Vriska pretty much becomes the main character that does everything interesting.

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>>83012119
MAKE WAY FOR NUMBER ONE!

>>83012146
this is really making me sad

>>83011889
Well, what issues are you having with the literal examples I presented?

>>83012028
Ah, someone has analysed the workings of the test at last! I expected someone to do this sooner. Try and keep it on the downlow, I'd rather not engage in open discussion without everyone on board and having done the test without that knowledge.

Thief of Mind could pertain to ability theft in a sense - stealing choices or decisions/decisive power, considered options and such. I'd give the plurality of my prediction towards you being a Thief of Mind for now, Mage of Void the least weight.

>>83012039
Now you're thinking with Sburb!

>>83012146
stop and save yourself

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>>83012237
>tfw catgirl 2: the search for more kawaii is ruined by cloun dick

>>83011961
You're a shitter anon, why would you play ANYTHING over the flashes with the comic's best music?

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>>83011877
>>83012146
Holy Shit
I quite literally Laughed out Loud
Well done
>>83012229
>getting excited about dumb/cool shit involving the kids actually progressing the plot is a ruse
Can ya'll just filter me and fuck off I wanna talk about this fucking comic

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>>83012146

>>83012146
Don't listen to them, the same people who are trying to convince you Vriska becomes important are the ones bummed out she wasn't relevant to the plot after act 5. They're just trying to fuck with you for their own amusement.

>>83011668
Okay, just to assist further with the "when is Liveblogger going to give up" betting pool, after that we've got:

Jane+Jake relationship drama, Roxy getting jailed, Arquius getting made, the Trickster Arc, more Alpha relationship drama in the crypts, Union Jack and the Alphas going god-tier, Jane and Jade going evil, and then the incredibly drawn out Pirate Vriska Arc

PLACE YOUR BETS EVERYBODY

>>83011877
>Glad to see it was all bullshit.
>Glad to see it was all bullshit.
>Glad to see it was all bullshit.
>Glad to see it was all bullshit.
>Glad to see it was all bullshit.

>>83012122
Hmm, I'm still not certainly but I'll keep what you've said in mind. I suppose I'll have to re-read some good old Eri stuff to get a feel for Princes in the context of the comic itself. Keep at it with the title test, it's nice to think there's one good test out there.

>>83012363
prepare yourself for the last really good flash of the comic. it comes after unite.

>>83012347
try watching it first

>>83012458
I did, it was worse at every moment.

>>83012415
probably after she finds out the reunion was skipped

>>83012363
Have fun because you're about to witness the slow descent of Homestuck after they all Enter.

>>83012415
If Liveblogger makes it past Meenahquest/Openbound I will be legitimately surprised

>>83012452
incorrect

>>83012277
just so you know, the guy wondering how to make thief of void work, and the guy who changed one of his answers by 1 point flip-flopped it between void and mind are the same guy

i guess being able to become absolutely invisible/intangible could be pretty handy, as well as being able to steal nothingness/darkness/mystery? from something else to take

this is actually the part where Homestuck gets better (she's close to the 75% mark)

it doesn't get much worse until the 90% mark

>>83011668
>>83011854
>>83012415

Early bet on she quits after Void. She gets pissed every time a new story starts and drops the kids, so "You are now Caliborn", especially after going through Meenahquest, will piss her off enough to bail for the night.

>>83012487
she said she was going until she found out what was with the arms at least

>>83012452
thats not interfishin