"LEGENDS OF TOMORROW" POST-TALKBACK

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Three new characters are being added for season 2.

>REX TYLER / HOURMAN (Patrick J. Adams) I "A hero with a mysterious past and an equally mysterious agenda, who launches a new mission for the Legends."

>MALE HERO (20's - 30's) I "A amn who grew up in the shadow of his grandfather, a hero from World War II, and has used a Han Solo-like facade to conceal his insecurity — until, that is, the development of superpowers enables him to love up to his family legacy."

Rumored to be Nathan Heywood / Citizen Steel.

>FEMALE HERO (20's - 30's) I "A member of an elite paramilitary team living in the 1940's. An African-American, she is scrutinized in her time for both her gender and race and thus has worked twice as hard to be a perfect soldier. That said, she blames herself for — and aims to avenge — the death of a team member for whom she had repressed feelings."

Rumored to be either Jill Carlyle / Crimson Avenger or Zinda Blake / Lady Blackhawk.

Showrunner Phil Klemmer said that Season 2 will feature mini-arcs with a variety of villains rather than an overarching storyline with a central antagonist, such as Vandal Savage.

Wentworth Miller will make recurring appearances as Captain Cold.

JSA

>>82940296
Hopefully the Hawks have pissed off for good.

>>82940296
>no more shitty hawks or hawkgirl's awful teeth
>hourman
>episodic storylines in favor of one big villain
I'll be there.

I havent watched the episode but just watching the reactions. Did he actually mention the JSA?

>>82940383
>episodic storylines in favor of one big villain
Is that confirmed?

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RATE THE EPISODE AND SEASON!

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>all those bitches in the last thread who didn't know what the JSA was

>>82940406
Yes

>>82940406
Yes. He said he was a member of the Justice Society of America

>>82940406
yeah, he said Justice Society of America

Rory best boy now that Snart is gone ;_;

Any screens of hourman? How did he look?

I'm at work so I can't stream.

>>82940406
Specifically
>I'm Rex Tyler, of the Justice Society of America.

>>82940406
Yes.
>I'm Rex Tyler, I'm a member of the Justice Society of America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hourman
>already updated
Hah

Wait so Cold is actually dead and Heatwave is still going to be on LoT? M-muh Rogues

Also Purcel is a better actor than Miller desu

>>82940406

Justice

Society

of America

>>82940296
Probably.

Damn I was hoping for Adam strange or Alan Scott.

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>Rex Tyler
>Justice League of America

Literally never heard of them

Isn't JSA an Earth 2 thing though?

>>82940460
cold is going to be on all shows

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JSA! WHOOOO! I HOPE WE GET TO SEE JAY GARRICK AND ALAN SCOTT! WE MAY GET A JSA /JUSTICE LEAGUE TEAMUP WITH SUPERGIRL MOVING TO THE CW!!!!!

>>82940438
Kinda like a skinnier, slightly shorter Stephen Amell.

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>>82940296
> Mfw we get to see power girl and the REAL jay garrick in the JSA

>>82940332
Promise big, reach low.
The CW way

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>>82940296
>Will you be back for season 2?

Yes. LoT talkback threads are the comfiest threads on /co/

>>82940460
Cold signed a sweet deal, will be on a bunch of shows as guest appearances

>>82940488
but still dead

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>>82940296
>Will you be back for season 2?
I'll most likely have nothing better to do with nothing better to watch, so yeah.
Want to be hype, because JSA, but Arrow's disappointing, Legends slowed off towards the middle and end, and Flash is still cool, but also still only alright.

>>82940481

Pre-crisis, yes.

Post-Crisis, they were simply the FIRST superteam that formed out of superheroes who started appearing around the late 30's, early 40's.

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>>82940425
>tfw I always confuse the JSA and the CSA because I'm an idiot

so how'd he look?

Pleas let it be nonstop 20s 30s 40s shenanigans.

>>82940460
Is coming back as a reoccurring character but not one of the main ones. Most likely he will show up from time to time on all the DC shows.

>>82940481
Yeah but earth 2 is the evil earth of this multiverse. So earth 2 is actually earth 3. Earth 1 is actually earth 2 and Batman v superman earth is the real earth 1

>>82940332
>Wentworth Miller will make recurring appearances as Captain Cold.
HOW?

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>>82940490
>REAL Jay Garrick
>Alan Scott lantern
>STARGIRL
>POWERGIRL
>DOCTOR MCFUCKING FATE

>>82940558
Like Arrow with red bands on his sleeves

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>tfw we finally get a live action Hourman

I had given up hope

>>82940536
I don't know they started getting pretty rough toward the end

>>82940481
kinda shocked Supergirl is moving to the CW, I wonder how they work that Earth-whichever one she is from into all of this

>>82940493
Did he have a costume?

Is he from suits?

>>82940565
>>82940565
Earth 2 is Earth 2 in terms of aesthetics and civilian population.

But in terms of the actual meta/superpowered characters, they're all villains.

>>82940438
Black leather outfit with red stripes and a dark cloak with that guy from Suits in it.

>>82940579
Time remnant.

>>82940409
This season was terrible but now that the 3 biggest flaws of the show are gone (Savage and the hawks), I'm hopeful for season 2 to be much better.

>>82940615
so was suits axed? haven't kept up with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdrlVCRwjqg

>>82940615
Sounds tight cheers Family

So where was Ma Hunkel?

Jonah Hex, Sgt. Rock, and Hourman all showed up, so where was Ma Hunkel?

Didn't watch the episode.

Is Snart really dead? I saw him in the promo.

>>82940646
nope back in July

>>82940607
Yes.

>>82940579
Time remnant
Earth 2
Supergirl's Earth is now a possibility
He somehow survived
Flashbacks
Clones
etc etc etc

Anything's fucking possible, this is comics

>>82940661
>That Hawkman voice
It sounds like Christian Bale trying to do TAS Wolverine

>>82940689
It's a scene that takes place in the past.

>>82940564
are you telling me cold became one with the fucking time stream

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>>82940580
>DOCTOR MCFUCKING FATE

>>82940643
I though the flaws of the show were the people working on it and the environment that let them fuck up so badly

>>82940689
They traveled back in time to say goodbye.

>>82940689
he signed a deal, some interview about the upcoming season said never count out anyone being perma dead in a time travel series

he'll pop up from time to time in multiple shows

Also, to anyone saying "the hawks are gone":

They were *going* to leave. But now that Hourman showed up and told the crew not to get on the ship, things will likely change. At the very least, they'll be back for the first episode, but I wouldn't be surprised if at least Kendra stays.

So who was that guy? Is CW actually making OC donut steal heroes? What the fuck? I was hoping for a real, classic hero, not some shitty OC

>>82940646
No, it's still on. The sixth season is going to air in July. But considering they are short seasons and LOT are short too, he can probably do both easily.

>>82940689
>>82940707

I imagine some time bullshit will bring him back. Like during the Flash finale, Zoom and Barry's speed cause them to break the time barrier.

This causes a Time Boom, bringing back Snart. And Wellsobard.

>>82940741
>This is bait


If any Anons fall for this I will be saddened.

>>82940741
Read some comics, you dumb casual.

>>82940741
4/10 bait, enough to make my eyebrow twitch.

>>82940741
Hourman

>>82940727
No, it was the things I already said. Tge character interactions have been the strongest parts of the show, but all that revolved around Savage's terrible actor and character. And the hawks only made it worse.

>>82940741
Here's your (you).

>>82940727
yes but both of those change next season. for one it's gonna be mini arcs not focusing a whole plot on a main bad, and it does have new writers

>>82940432
He's going to be popping up in both flash and legends, don't worry

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>>82940741

>>82940729
>They didn't return to before they left and just didn't bring him alone so he could form the Rogues

>He's really dead barring some timey wimey bullshit on LoT.

Worst timeline.

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>>82940741

>>82940720
No. I am saying this show has time travel. Supergirl is in a different universe. The Flash has time traveled and dimension hopped. And Arrow has flashbacks.

Anything is possible.

>>82940786
Yeah, honestly, all the character interactions really made the show for me.

>>82940579
He got knocked into the time stream and Barry will pluck him out.

>>82940741
>Is CW actually making OC donut steel heroes?
Didn't they kind of do that with Thea and Sara? At the very least Dig is an OC CW character.

>>82940681
Her helmet was in Rip's room of time knickknacks along with Sandman's mask.

Captain Cold and White Canary made the show for me.

>LegendsofTomorrow trending on Twitter

>>82940786
I feel like they were the quaratine for those chatacters.
Their awful writing and subplots were just stuff we've seen on all of these shows.
IF they are really gone, the Hawks I mean, then that'll find a new place to roost.

>>82940801
Call me cautious then.

>>82940827

Agreed. Kendra on her own is evened out by the rest of the great cast, but the focus on her character and Savage as the backbone of the main plot really dragged down a lot of this season.

The character descriptions in the OP mean absolute jack shit.

http://comicbook.com/2016/05/20/marc-guggenheim-talks-about-the-future-of-dcs-legends-of-tomorro/

>Given the appearance of Hourman in this episode, and the reports that a couple of World War II-affiliated heroes are being cast for next season, would it be fair to guess that we could see some Justice Society-related characters showing up next season?

>Casting breakdowns are not news. That’s true for any show, but for these shows, we know that they’re going to get picked up and reported as news, so the casting breakdowns for these shows are fake. Fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake. The names are fake, the descriptions are fake, everything is completely fake.

>yfw Savage wasn't the real savage and was just Hath Set pretending to be savage on Savage's orders

I just want Doctor Fate, please, they blue balled me with him in Constantine.

>>82940735
Hawkgirl is part of the JSA so it would make sense for Kendra to stay.

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>Dr. Palmer, I'm JLA

>>82940846
Thea is just Mia

But yes Sara and Dig are OC. And hell Laurels origin story may as well be a totally different character.

>>82940681
>Sgt. Rock
what? when?

>>82940914
That too

>>82940917
>JLA

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>>82940425

Sorry that most people here don't read comics.

>>82940935

This episode.

>>82940935
The dude Savage knifed in 1944

>>82940917
>JLA
>Not JSA

You had one job Family. One job.

>>82940917
>JLA

How soon till we get a clip of the ending scene with Hourman.

HAWK SHITS CONFIRMED GONE FOR GOOD

http://deadline.com/2016/05/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-ciara-renee-departs-hawkgirl-1201754078/

>>82940935
He was the rando Savage knifed in France.

>>82940432
He and Ray get to be cute together some more. I look forward to it!

>>82940880
>So, will there be more JSA characters, since a JSA character just showed up and namedropped the JSA?

>Guggunheim: FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE ALL NEWS IS FAKE
>Next question?

I hate that man more than anything in the world

>>82940993
RIP Barista girl

>>82940954
I read comics. Just not every comic. I had no idea who Hourman was. I was hoping for Booster Gold. It would fit the actor better.

>>82940880
>TV shows require casting calls to pick up actors.

>Produce fake casting calls to throw fans off.

>The actual casting process because much more taxing because the people that come in might not fit the role they sought for based on said descriptions

Bravo, Guggenheim.

Flawless tactic.

>>82940993

HA HA HA, SUCK ON IT DAVE, YOU NEGATIVE NANCY

>>82940993
>bringing them back at the BEGINNING of season 2 would be premature


Yeah.
No.

>>82940993
> “We have a very organic system in place to take a break form characters.”
>>organic
>>>organic
>>>>>organic

HE'S JUST BAITING US AT THIS POINT, ISN'T HE?

>>82940993
Yay! The three worst parts of the show are gone!

MY NAME IS REX TYLER
AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA

>>82940993
Well, shoot, that means Vandal is actually dead as a doornail. Good.

>>82941015

Of course, he already fucked over the JSA once, he can't wait to do it again.

>>82940908
You and me both, senpai

>>82941069
Who names their kid "Rex"?

>>82941054
she's still not a regular. like yeah obviously she would show up at some point but she isnt a main character

>>82941102
A DINOSAUR!

>>82941102

Latin for "king".

Pretty good name, all things considered.

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/legends-tomorrow-finale-justice-society-895658

>"God bless both the studio and the network. They've never said, 'This is too big. You can't do it,'" Guggenheim says. "They have often said, 'Jeez, this is so big, how are you going to do it?' They say that a lot. They're always asking us how the hell we're going to pull something off. Inevitably, our answer is, 'We literally have no idea. But we'll figure out a way.'"
>We literally have no idea.

GOD PLEASE SAVE JSA FROM GUGGIE
or at least someone keeps him in check

>>82941082
Surprisingly, Guggenheim had nothing to do with the whole Jay=Zoom mess

Although it's pretty fucking clear masketta man is the real Jay

Damn, and now we have to wait months and months for the next season. I hate hiatus.

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>>82941082
At least he can't possibly do something worse than this, right?

>>82940553
>WW and PG
Hnnnnnnnnnnggggg

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>>82941134
>Inevitably, our answer is, 'We literally have no idea. But we'll figure out a way.

Boy that explains a lot.

>>82940528
Don't get your hopes too far up. She might get a cameo if anything. Otherwise, we'll be stuck with RESPECT MY BLACK VAGINA Lady Blackhawk.

>>82941134
Uncle Guggie, please don't touch the JSA like you did the others.

>>82941136
I think he meant the comics.

>>82941174
He's going to make up for his mistakes when he wrote the comic.

Now he will make sure we like it.

>>82941134
>Hey Guge, how are you going to do this time traveling show and explain why we aren't reviving every dead character ever in this universe?
>I have no idea!
>Perfect, here's your funding

>>82940933
>Laurels origin story may as well be a totally different character.
well black siren is now locked up at central city, so she might pop up later at star city if uncle guggie let her to do so

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>>82941136
He's talking about Guggenheim's shitty JSA run, anon.

>>82941057
Felicity's relative for JSA founding member!

>>82941134
>"We literally have no idea. But we'll figure out a wibbly wobbly timey wimey way."

>>82941153
what the fuck is that monstronsity

>>82941195
Is he going to add Felicity to the JSA?

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So speaking of JSA, who are these 5 people?

>>82941217
What the fuck did he do to the Green Lantern

>>82941136
One day I'll understand why the Jay/Hunter twist triggered /co/ so much.

I can understand people who thought the time remnant twist contrived, but otherwise it works fine.

>>82941236
Go read the comics and find out.

>>82941236
Black Canary
Starman
Cyclone
Obsidian?
Starman

>>82941236
1.???
2.LoSH Starman
3.Maxine Hunkle
4 Obsidion
5.Jack Knight Starman

>>82941236

1. Black Canary
2. Legion of Superheroes' Starman (Thom Kallor)
3. Cyclone (Maxine Hunkel)
4. Obsidian
5. Jack Knight

>>82941236
Pippi Longstockings there is Maxine Hunkle- Cyclone, the granddaughter of the original Red Tornado. She's a magic user, a big fan of Stargirl, and doesn't wear underpants.

>>82941235
>>82941248
He made Alan Scott, a man will-powered himself a new fucking eyeball!, stronger.

>>82941236
Blonde is Black Canary.

Goggles is Starman.

Near Black Canary is the other Starman.

Between GL and Sandman is Obsidian.

The redhead is Cyclone.

I gave up on this show around episode 6 or so

Worth watching the rest of the season? Was the finale hype?

>>82941262
>>82941289
>>82941297
>>82941313
much obliged anons

>Did special effects play any small part in the decision? You do have three people flying around….

>No, not at all. In fact, truth be told, if visual effects factored into our decision ever, it would be an argument against writing someone off, because you invest time and money in developing the assets and the digi[tal] doubles and the costumes and everything to create any of these characters — whether they fly or they don’t. Whenever you only use a character for 16 episodes and then you move off from the character, it’s probably not the most cost-effective way of doing things.

Huh, so it had nothing to do with budget

>>82941317
Not really.

>>82941317
Yes and no, and the only thing hype about the finale was the reveal of Hourman and confirmation of JSA.

>>82941316
Thanks to you too family

>>82941317

If the episode synopsis heavily features Savage or the Hawks, then skip it.

The other episodes that focus on the rest of the cast are bretty gud

>>82941356
you should change your name to Negative Nancy in these threads

>>82940409
Again:

8/10 episode, 5/10 season.
The showrunners REALLY should have known better than to base so much of the plot around stilted, non-charismatic actors when the big draw was seeing your favorite side characters go on wacky adventures together.

http://marvel.com/comics/issue/56029/agents_of_shield_2016_1
>Writer: Marc Guggenheim
WHAT THE FUCK MUH SIDES
How did I not know that? Uncle guggie influence is huge.

>>82941381
This season was terrible, brother

>>82940954
You should be. We all should be.

Any info about the DC shows from the upfronts

>>82941408
Whatever, m8.

>>82941408
>terrible
nah. mediocre, but I feel the bad parts had enough good parts outweighing them so it isn't a complete waste I'd give it a 6.5 out of 7

Strangely enough, I felt like the last 15-20 minutes of each episode were pretty good, but the rest of it was just a mess. Having said that, I'm excited for S2

Who the fuck is Hourman and why should I care

Anyone got a pic of him from the episode?

>>82940596
It was basically black motorcycle gear with red stripes along the sleeves, and a cloak. No yellow lining.

>>82941383
I feel the opposite. The plot is garbage but the characters are fun and their interactions are what make the show watchable.

>>82941450
Don't bother. He's not gonna change his mind on this.

>tfw no talking dog crewmember

>>82940407
>>82940332

>However, Guggenheim is shy to say which members of the JSA will be joining him next season, especially when it comes to a familiar JSA member from the comics: The Flash (portrayed in the hit CW series by Grant Gustin). “I can’t go spoiling stuff they’re doing on Flash,” Guggenheim says. “Phil Klemmer, Geoff Johns, Dan Evans, and I sat down in a room at DC with a list, and it’s a long list, of the members of the JSA. One of the more fun afternoons I’ve had recently is sitting down and actually composing our JSA lineup, our perfect JSA lineup. That was a blast to do.”

GEOFF JOHNS HAND-PICKED LINEUP

HOW LONG UNTIL GUGGENHEIM FUCKS IT UP

>>82941493


>>82940917

>>82941516
I think this all but confirms Jay Garrick

>>82941516
Immediately

See y'all next year

>>82941501
Actually we're on the same page. The stilted, non-charismatic actors I was referring to are the Hawks and Savage, who basically are the plot of the season. Everyone else is great.

>>82941843
Ok that is definitely true, I can agree with all of that. It's pretty frustrating that the show was centered around the least interesting characters who had no chemistry with anyone.

>>82941516
>We might actually have the real Jay Garrick in LoT played by Shipp
Holy fuck

>>82940917
>JLA

>>82941843

Savage is great you fucking faggot

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>>82941516
>Guggenhack

it was dead before it began

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>>82941516
>yfw they leave out Power Girl due to her being "too problematic"
>yfw Lady Blackhawk won't have the skirt
>yfw Lady Blackhawk will bring nothing but unwanted drama
>yfw one of the cast will be gay for no reason
>yfw all of your hopes will be dashed to the ground beneath Guggenheim's feet.

>>82942086

pls no

>>82942011
No, he really wasn't. He didn't have the presence needed to feel like a real threat, even when the show wasted so much time playing him up.

Also, his actor was a manlet and his accent was atrocious. Defend your bad taste.

>>82942011
And here I thought the taste of this board couldn't get any worse.

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>>82942086
Power Girl will depend on whether Melissa Benoist want to play two major roles on two different shows on the same network at the same time. She might cameo, but doing both parts at the same time is daunting, and may conflict with filming locations

>>82942202
His face was stupid.

>>82942241
What?

>>82942241
>and may conflict with filming locations

They are moving Supergirl to film near the CW shows, but you're right about whether she would want to do both. The occasional appearance is probably the most we'll get if they do Peeg.

>>82942241
Supergril was moved to CW.

She also lacks the... stage presence, to play PG.

>>82942308
Power Girl is E2 Supergirl.

>>82942354
There's literally no point in having Peeg if you don't play on the fact that she's alternate Kara. Same actress or don't do it at all.

>>82942355
For real?

They look quite different, should just get a different actress

>>82942394
But Power Girl is an older Kara. It makes no sense to have them be played by the same person.

>>82942488
Well, she's usually in her mid 20s so TV Kara is already the same age. It would just be that she used a different codename.

with the embargo, why didnt they do jsa sooner?

>>82942355
They don't look like each other though. They can just cast a different person as Karen.

>>82942810
Because Flash has its own story right now and Arrow is busy shitting itself to death

>>82942810
Had to prove a team show could work.

>>82940646
>so was suits axed? haven't kept up with it
No, but his character got fucked at the end of the season so will probably get dropped from main to recurring for 1 season, allowing him to do this.

>>82942889
thats so stupid. look at arrow and flash. they are already team shows.

>>82943198
Yo I'm Hourglass, bitch!

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Hey Canadanons, is it just me or did the episode not air tonight on CTV?
Any reason why?

>>82942988
a team of superheroes. cisco barely got his power, and felicity is a villain.

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>>82943198
i wish they emphasize more on the red linings, but it was ok

>>82943198
Rip looks like a friendly merchant in that image.

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>It's not Alan Scott

>>82943615
There will never be a Green Lantern on tv.

Magnet when?

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>>82943615
>he honestly thought it'd be Alan Scott

>Casting breakdowns are not news. That’s true for any show, but for these shows, we know that they’re going to get picked up and reported as news, so the casting breakdowns for these shows are fake. Fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake. The names are fake, the descriptions are fake, everything is completely fake.

http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/05/20/marc-guggenheim-talks-about-the-future-of-dcs-legends-of-tomorro/

Well, if this show was good for anything, it was good for Kendra tits.

>>82943849
>Guggenheim

He lies all the time.

>>82943198
IS THIS MAY 2016?
*slams folders*
IS THIS MAY 2016?!

>>82943849
I remember the hawkgirl one being pretty close but both one that described RIP called him a Han Solo type character.

>>82941839
Next season, you mean. This is on the fall schedule for the CW.

It's pretty amazing how CW has managed to build an expanding DC liveaction universe. While Warner Brothers have completely failed at it.

>>82940591
I think that the mention of the JSA, as well as Cisco's visions of the Earths colliding and splitting part, heavily implies some kind of major crisis thing going on.

>>82944192
Do we know if it is going to have a full season or if its going to be shorter like this one?

>>82940332
>MALE HERO (20's - 30's) I "A amn who grew up in the shadow of his grandfather, a hero from World War II, and has used a Han Solo-like facade to conceal his insecurity — until, that is, the development of superpowers enables him to love up to his family legacy."

Star Man!?

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>>82944668
Jack Knight

>>82941317
All things considered it was incredible and this finale was great.

It had some really stupid episodes though. But the show is still very much worth it.

>>82944733
That's the Starman I meant

>>82940296
>Will you be back for season 2?
For sure. Do we have any idea of when it'll be though?
Later this year?

what are some good Hourman standalone stories? I'd like to get to know the character better

>>82944605
Fall shows usually have a minimum of 18/19 episodes. Especially with this having stronger ratings than iZombie, I would assume they're going for 19 and then possibly adding more.

>>82944827
Yeah, coming back in the fall.

It'll probably be around the first week of October.

>>82944827
probably mid-october

>>82944733
God I hope so.

>>82943615
I'm sorry, bruv. Green Lanterns are a no go. Even Alan.

>>82943849
>Guggenheim lying about lying
Man, just stop.

>>82944450
That's what happens when you have multiple serial installments to work with instead of banking everything on bloated two-hour movies.

>>82944936
Why? he is not in the movie and his ring is magic.

Also, I know we ragged on Frequency's trailer, but the extended first look...makes it actually look not half bad.

https://youtu.be/BL8Rl2n2C6Y

>>82944450
>>82944936
More like that what happens when you bet on Snyder and Goyer for several instalments in a row while also rushing towards the Justice League faster than you can properly handle.

>>82944450
Well they've finally admitted they don't know what they're doing and given Johns creative control and Berlanti is making a Booster Gold movie.

>>82944862
The shorter season fits legends imo

More budget and happening without having to wait through 23 episodes of padding

Especially for a team show like this

>>82941370

Savage, Snart and Rip were the only interesting ones to me

>>82941516
Wait, but how did nobody mention in Arrow and Flash that there were superheroes in the past before?

And how is doppelganger papa Allen from Earth 2 going to factor into this? He's not from the JSA Earth

>>82940749
Wellsobard and Mattobard team up to fuck over Barry in two holes at the same time

Make it happen.

>>82945090
Is it even possible to salvage it by this point after MoS and BvS though?
I'll admit that Batman might be salvageable, but I honestly doubt Superman is. They were both incredibly stupid in those movies and both movies were by large huge downers.
BvS also spearheads the coming of Darkseid already and Superman is already in a coma.

Then you have the Suicide Squad. And while I really do think something like the Suicide Squad can have its place in another climate, this has really been a dark movie followed by a dark movie followed by a dark movie. And I won't say that cape stuff can't have dark movies, but it's almost to the point where a light or non-dark movie would feel horribly out of place. And that's just messed up.

>>82940589
Is there any actual fan of the character?

>>82945412
Well CW did have plans for an Hourman show, but it died

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>yfw the plot of this episode was nearly identical to the last aired episode of Ninja Turtles. Complete with Doctor Who time traveling character sacrificing himself to destroy a world-ending weapon and they end up surviving

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Next season they need to add to the team Jesse Quick, Arsenal, and Martian Manhunter to be quite honest, family

>>82941345
This is true. Im pretty sure they reuse the same firestorm transformation effect everytime they merged.

Im pretty sure to use Firestorm is now pretty cheap since they can reuse fireballs, flying effects, etc.

>>82940917

JSA FUCKK

>>82940709

It's Michael Shanks, the actor who played Daniel Jackson in Stargate SG-1 .

>>82941236

If you can't name all the characters on your page your a fucking pleb.

>>82945584
That would be epic. And they could either somehow whisk Manhunter away from Supergirl's Earth or find a version there. And Jesse please. Save her from the super obvious foreshadowed relationship.

>>82945698

Fuck if the real Jay is Barrys dad and they introduce a badass Alan Scott possibly add Stargirl and Liberty Belle. Have alternate earth Kara on the team FUCKC

The masked man on Flash is Jay Garrick played by John Wesley Shipp.

He will join LoT S2.

They could also reuse most of the effects from Flash so it would be extremely cheap to have him.

>>82945735
>Have alternate earth Kara on the team FUCKC
tfw the Kara on their world is Power Girl

>>82945575
Speaking of, any word on when/if a season 5 is going to air?

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>>82945804
I hope you're right. That's what I predicted. And I remember that Shipp was the first one who leaked the name of Legends at a convention. Maybe he knew then.

someone post the kendra panty slip

>>82945854
I know it was ordered. And season 4 is only halfway over. Hope they don't wait until the fall to release the rest of it.

>>82945933
>And season 4 is only halfway over
What, really? I thought for sure the latest episode was the season finale, it practically wrapped the entire season's plot.

>>82945976
That was only the 14th episode out of the 26 ordered.

>>82944119
What the hell is this?

>>82945891
Damn I just found he is 61 years old. He is huge as fuck for that age. I thought he had 50.

Couldn't watch it. Any other references besides the JSA namedrop?

>>82946338
They're hinting at Crisis on Infinite Earths.
It was hinted at Flash too so something like it might actually happen.

>>82946338
The Hawks got their powers from Thanagarians sort of.

Do you guys think they wanted to get rid of the Hawks earlier but kinda fucked themselves over by being the only ones to kill Savage?

>>82940332
I hope it isn't Zinda.
I want her to be saved for a Green Lantern show

You'd think they's show what happened to Rip's family. If they killed all of the Savages, it should prevent that future.

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>>82946558
Embargo says that won't happen.

I really hope these fuckers didn't just jimmy olsen'd Sgt. Rock

I had heard they were going more mystical next season with Constantine possibly joining the cast. Was that just a bullshit rumor?

>>82940296
I liked how they progressed rory past the whole "i burn things and thats it" and gave him a better structure now.

BUmmed that Snart is gone. yeah, yeah we'll still be seeing him but most likely as flashbacks.
I want present Snart back and being a fucking hero.

Why kill off your best character?

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>>82946392

Supergirl and Barry...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nXldPtZ1sg

Yeah crisis is happening. If JSA is forming then we are getting sweet Power Girl.

>go back in time to the vanishing point where they've revealed the laws of time don't matter
?have someone give Snart a roll of duct tape
>everybody lives

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>>82946555

I'd rather just see them get a two parter now and then rather than a whole season of their bullshit. Thanagar is cool though. Thanagar vs Rann could be a fun season.

>>82946728
Yes

>Just want cold and heatwave on flash with the rogues

>>82946633
what fucking embargo?

>>82941102
I know like 2 fucks down at my pub with those names

>>82940332
>Season 2 will feature mini-arcs with a variety of villains rather than an overarching storyline with a central antagonist, such as Vandal Savage.
Sounds much better.

>>82946768
>Supergirl is as fast as Flash with tachyon hacks

Whats the fucking point of Flash then? How can she have any enemy on her series being so strong and fast unless every villain is Superman tier strong?

>>82946915

Its a TV show the Flash will always be faster when it matters

>>82946891
The heads at WB don't want characters that are used in movies to be in TV shows. Hense why Ted Kord was turned into Ray Palmer, the Suicide Squad was killed off, and Deathstroke disappeared. Also rumor has it that Snyder wants to introduce Black Canary which may have contributed to the decision to kill her off. God knows what this embargo means for The Flash because of the solo movie.

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>>82946915

Powerlevel fags.

Just for future reference. Every superhero has a rogues gallery that can fuck with him or her. Including the Supes family you plebbit.

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>>82942810
>embargo

>>82947043
If they introduce a Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman in this universe even as cameos it should be Jensen Ackles, Tom Welling, and Alexandra Daddario.

>>82947108
Jensen Ackles should be Hal

>>82947043
But Supergirl's not in their world. The Flash crossover confirmed they don't exist in each other's world. And a Crisis-style event may be eminent, but it would dramatically affect their worlds as the Arrow was the first vigilante hero in that world and the particle accelerator was the first public display of superpowers. And in Supergirl's world, Superman has been around for years.

>>82947161
Eh. I think he would be a better Batman. He can definitely do the voice. And I know he wanted it.

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>>82947215

What is multiple earths, what is crossovers, what is same network...

It's like your trying to argue the earth is flat to me right now.

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>>82947161

Fucking this. Make his brother Nightwing. Have Teen Titans on TV. Nightwing and Supergirl on tv would be arguably better than Batman and Superman IMO. Donna Troy instead of Wondy?

>>82947215
her earth 1 doppelganger has to exist somewhere so either her ship hasn't landed on earth yet or krypton hasn't been destroyed yet

>>82947041
why do they do this? Are they literally trying to keep the tv from making their movies looking bad or something? Because I feel the shows are truer to the comics sometimes than the films when they don't fuck with stuff.

>>82947215
Maybe Barry carries Supergirl on his back as he vibrates between universes.

>>82947658
Because they think their audiences are retarded and won't be able to tell the two universes apart

>>82946915
They already said in-episode that it wasn't a race to see who's farther, Barry needed Supergirl to keep up with him so she could throw him with enough force to shatter the dimension barrier, if Barry actually wanted to outrun her, he probably could have.

>>82947658
Snyder is a whiny bitch and his wife is a major executive who spoils him

>>82947700
they are right too, sadly

>>82947658
>Are they literally trying to keep the tv from making their movies looking bad or something?
Something like that.

There was a story that WB execs blamed Smallville for Superman Returns doing so poorly.

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>original trailer of Legends of Tomorrow showed the group teaming up with The Flash and Green Arrow in the future to fight some giant robot
>Flash and Green Arrow never appear outside of that one episode with Future Oliver

What gives?

>>82947770
The original trailer was a proof of concept meant to sell the show, not actually something they filmed to be in an episode

>>82947770
That trailer was test footage they put together to sell the show to the network

>>82947762
then why don't they realize that TV does better and focus their money on that? I watched Smallville for all 10 years and it was wayyy better than SR.

>>82947770
It has been said time and time again

That was basically test footage. They shot it before filming of the show even began just so they would have something to show

>>82947818
Way more money to be made in film.

>>82947818
how much money do tv shows make anyway?

Can a pro /co/mbo list possible JSA members to be appear on Season 2 and what chanc,e by percentage, he/she gives them to appear on the show?

So wait, if Snart is REALLY dead and all, why is he still slated as a series regular for next season of Flash?
Also why the fuck did they have to kill the best character?

>>82947548
I think Jared said he was close to being Nightwing. He also auditioned for Thor.

>>82947770
That wasn't a trailer it was a test reel to get the show made

>>82947859

Jay is obviously Barrys dad.
Alan Scott was rumored.
Rex Tyler means we are getting Libertybell.
If Cereal king is involved then Stargirl most likely.
If Supergirl is on mondays now then Powergirl will be there.
Black Canary can easily join given how they had 3 already.

>>82947624
Or it's Power Girl and it will be Benoist with her bra stuffed for a cameo or another actress.

>>82947770
>No Eobard episode where he gets Giddeon
>No anything about how Ripp has Giddeon

>>82947624
>her earth 1 doppelganger has to exist somewhere

Why do you say that? Not everyone exists in every universe

>>82947952
Sara can just fill for black canary as white canary instead

>>82948017
Nut they're different Gideons. Thawne's has an American accent and it the voice of Morena Baccarin.

>>82947952
Isn't Liberty Belle suppose to be E2 Harrison Wells' wife?

>>82948053
sure they do

>>82947952
>Rex Tyler means we are getting Libertybell.
Jesse I hope. But isn't she with Rick, not Rex?

>>82948106
they literally don't, that's never been true about the multiverse

does anyone have those images of JSA objects from some instagram a few months ago?

>>82948106
Jesse doesn't because Wells and his wife were killed before she could be conceived.
>>82948102
Jesse was Liberty Belle.

>>82943615
Man of the Hour eats up less budget for one.

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>>82948231

Plus wasn't he close to getting his own show?

>>82944161
Eh, to be fair, Han was practically as big a screw up as Rip, just without the level of expectation we had from Rip or the narrative being written in a way that makes Han look aggressively stupid.

>>82940296
I can't believe the saddest, most emotional part of the entire show ended up being the Heatwave/Captain Cold exchange. I thought they'd be the meme members of the team but they had a nice arc.

>>82941920
>>82945891
>>82945804
The only thing that bothers me is that he probably won't wear the helmet which is central to Jay's character since they connected it to Zolomon's past.

>HOURMAN
>JSA
>NO HAWKS
YEEEEEEES
>GUGGENHACK
DAMN YOU MONKEY PAW

ANYWAY SO IS THIS REX FROM E2 OR THE FUTURE, PREDICTIONS?

>>82940296
Tell me about Gideon. When does Barry make her? How does she become the time traveling AI? How does she end up in the hands of Thawne?

>>82948524
>ANYWAY SO IS THIS REX FROM E2 OR THE FUTURE, PREDICTIONS?
I'm going with the past.
>>82948614
IDK, but they're different. See >>82948085

>>82940409
episode was kind of a mess. like why waste 10 minutes stranding them in the past if you're just going to come back and get them anyways? and although i really liked the concept of fighting in 3 different time periods, they kind of rushed the whole fight. i like how they dealed with the lances tho. and coming back to visit time remnant snart was also a plus. 7/10 last episode.

overall i enjoyed the season. sure there were dumb cw moments, but the suspense and build up was good. this was definitely a better watch than that mess arrow. 7.5/10 overall.

>>82948614
She's the Siri of the future. She doesn't "end up in the hands" of Thawne, he just downloads a copy.

>>82948085
>>82948658
No I think it's the same Gideon (or a copy of the original). They just happened to change VAs.

>JWS Jay
>Black Siren Laurel locked up in Flash
>Hispanic Ted Grant
>Rex
>those castings
HAPPENIING

>>82948766
And accents. But maybe that's just programmed based on their owner.

>>82947921
dollars to donuts wentworth didn't want to commit to a long term gig

>>82940332

I really dig Wentworth. Sucks he isn't a regular. Hope that changes.

Anyone has any clue who the big bad is going to be in season 2? Guggenheim said he'll be bigger than Savage. I'm not too familiar with this sector of the DC myth.

>>82944119
AM I TOO SOON?

>>82947770
We still got the giant robot.

And better.

>>82949066
I thought they said that it wouldn't be just one villain. Maybe it will be a bunch like the Legion. Embargo prevents them from using Luthor or Apokalips villains. Or some aliens like Thanagarians, the Reach, Kroloteans, White Martians, or even Lobo.

>>82947762
>There was a story that WB execs blamed Smallville for Superman Returns doing so poorly.

Someone needs to cut off Hollywood's cocaine supply, I think it's causing brain damage.

>>82940425
I don't know why but I just love Alex Ross' art.

>>82943198
Thats a small cape

Currently watching the episode

So far

bad

>kendra broke out, seems like she doesn't remember she has wings and gets captured again
>jax didn't destroy vandal's time travel ship
>kendra being useless and getting captured... again
>lol i leave you here, lol j/k i am back
>kendra forgot she had super strength until carter got shot
>why didn't RIP just set the waverider in autopilot?
>cucked ray

good

>jax transmuting stuff
>double savage (now neither of us will be virgins!)
>fuck yeah RIP (who the fuck cares if i just got shot)
>3 vandal's dead (although killing vandal in the past should have killed the other 2 but whatever)
>ray shrinking the meteor
>jefferson transmuting the meteor
>gideon saying "fuck you dont kill me you dick"
>no more drama hawks
>JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA

I rate this episode as a 7/10

>>82941236
What's Shaq doing in the picture?

Who is he?

>>82940425
Who's the Christmas elf looking chick in the fron there?

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>>82949855
He is a DC character. Didn't you know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIEBIDjOgOU

Do they mean "all new" as in all new adventures with the same people or "all new" as in "fuck this shit we are rebooting the series"??

>>82949605
>jax didn't destroy vandal's time travel ship
This is a problem that happens SO much in the show it's fucking ridiculous. The team had so many opportunities to either kill or severely weaken Savage time and time again AND THEY NEVER DO JACKSHIT either because of contrived plot drama or just because the writers forgot they could.

>>82950014
Cyclone. Granddaughter of the golden age Red Tornado.

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>Although much of “Supergirl” remains the same, one major cast member’s status is up in the air: Calista Flockhart, who plays media mogul Cat Grant, is in negotiations now that the show is switching networks and production is moving from Los Angeles to Vancouver, B.C. On a conference call with reporters, CW President Mark Pedowitz said the network would be thrilled to have Flockhart on the show “in whatever capacity” suits her.

>CW gave series orders to many shows, including all of the ones about superheroes (Pedowitz confirmed that the network’s annual DC Comics crossover event will be pretty epic this year)

>Pedowitz

You can't make this shit up, kek

>>82940741
I mean, I know this is bait, but this IS /co/ so...

Good thing that S2 will no longer be about time travel, no more Hawks, and no more savage. Basically all the reasons that made S1 sucks. Now if they can just get rid of guggie, that'd be nice.

>>82941215
>Someone who might possibly compete with Felicity for Ollie's affection
Not a fucking chance

>>82948506
The helmet is what all the soldiers in the war wore though.
Just have Jay be a man who fought in the war like James, It's not that hard.

>>82950295
But with the wings? American soldiers in Vietnam didn't have wings on their helmet.