>It's an episode where the West disses Japanese animation

>>82792403
Go home Brad, she's ours now.

>make a joke about anime
>everyone talks really fast like speed racer
Fuck even anime/manga fags didn't know what that was a reference to and neither did I but it also gets used with Pokemon for some reason

>>82792429
ok i wasn't the only one who said it looked like brad thank you anon

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>>82792429
Not when there's Japanese animation to defend.

>>82792538
is it not actually brad
its a bald bearded man in a poncho with a wristband and only one arm

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You don't want this guy on your board /co/, he's a bad man. He only wants one thing. Look at his mouth water.

He wants the waifus

Would you watch a LISA cartoon, /co/?

>>82792494
Are you saying you didn't know it was a reference to Speed Racer?

Everyone knows Speed Racer.

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>it's a mecha episode

>>82793473
yes,
well, I remember a Clarence storyboarder did an scene of Lisa. Would watch

>>82793649
This, I've never even seen speed racer and I knew it was referencing that.

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>>82793665
Really?

Brad... had a hard life

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>>82792403
>Braaaad.

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>mfw completing this game

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>>82792403
>it's an episode dedicated to trying to make you feel as shitty as possible

>>82793649
Yeah, probably cause I never saw it when I was younger and thought the whole talking fast thing was a Pokemon reference cause it got used whenever a cartoon parody it, even thou Pokemon doesn't actually do that

>>82793906
what game?

>>82794038
Lisa The Painful.

>>82794067
thanks

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>>82793473
Only fanworks are out there for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp_xm2B16tQ

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>>82793729
yes.

>>82792403
Do they ever do anything similar in anime?

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>>82794089
That's actually really good.

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I'll just leave this here...

>>82793473

Who would animate it? I think the guys who made Superjail would do a good job on it.
>tfw no scene where all of Brad's party members rebel against him and Brad has to kill them all in a mass melee.

>>82794124

All the western animation references in anime I've seen have been positive ones.

>its a buzzo episode

If there were a Lisa cartoon before an Undertale one there would be true justice in this world.

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>>82792403
>It's a boys vs girls episode

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>>82794331

What if they were made at the same time, and then had a crossover episode?

>>82794583

I wouldn't mind that either. I just want Lisa to get the popularity it deserves. Too fukken gud.

>>82794630

Yeah, but then 4chan would start hating it.

>>82794331
I really don't think we'll get either, maybe Undertale because its a very "happy" and popular game but LISA is just too raw.
I think a LISA movie could work though,
>>82794793
Not if it last half a season and gets canned.

>>82794810

No, I meant if it got the popularity it deserves.

>>82794793
That's a meme anon, give one example of a thing that's widely hated on 4chan just because it's popular

>>82794932

>give one example of a thing that's widely hated on 4chan just because it's popular

everything

>>82794932
4chan is kinda popular in itself.

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>>82794091
Nice.

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>It's a random chance of all your team mates being killed episode

>>82794932
Just look at new cartoons. When Rick & Morty come out then the first thread were all very positive. Then it got popular.
Today it's a "reddit" cartoon.

>>82795851

Same happened with Undertale

>>82792403

Brad deserved better.

Buddy can burn in hell for all i care.

>>82796117

Brad had a hard life, but I guarantee you he'd do those awful things over and over again if it kept Buddy alive.

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>>82796117
Everyone was terrible in their own way.

Except Rando.

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>It's a 'keep a gun loaded with one bullet in your lap in a dark room with the curtains drawn' episode

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>>82796427
>Except Rando

And Lisa, Terry, Shocklord, Bo, and the guy running a very flammable orphanage.

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QUICK THIS IS OUR CHANCE
SOMEONE
DRAW
BUDDY LEWDS

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>>82796956

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>It's an episode where a character ends up in a ridiculous state and/or acts out-of-character

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>>82796988

>>82796883
>Lisa

She literally drove Buzzo insane by emotionally abusing him by manipulating his feelings for her, and made him kill animals and mutilate her, which led to him fucking up Brad's life and everyone around him, destroying Olathe in the process.

I mean, yeah, she's fucked up because of Marty, but she's still a major cause of everything. Dingaling even confirmed she's the worst girl (besides Buddy of course)

>>82796883
Morrace Finkle deserved it. He was a shit who didn't even show up on time for his graduation.

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>>82797021

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>>82797116
Lisa's issue was her possessive and codependent relationship, that put Bernard on his downward spiral.

She hated Brad as much as anyone, and built up Buzzo's grudge against him, but that was likely fueled by Marty coercing him to rape her. Lisa's perception of the truth behind that situation was probably pretty limited.

Either way, Buzzo's still responsible for everything that he chose to do after her death.

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>it's a Gary the hot soup episode

>>82797652
Doesn't it all come back to Marty? He had his son rape his daughter because he couldn't deal with his wife's death. Yado has responsibility on a bigger scale, but either way things come back to Marty.

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>it's a super sentai episode

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>>82796956

>tfw a drawfag on /loli/ draws your Buddy request

Cool

>>82797686
soups on

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>>82797652
She never had to kill herself though. She could've run, she could never outrun the trauma, but she could learn to cope. Instead she chose death, rather than burden herself with memories, and her death wound up causing the entire plot. She never once thought about anyone except herself. Her selfish desire to end her pain, though understandable, just wasn't right. It's the same way for the Joy mutants. They chose the Joy, rather than live another second suffering, and lost their humanity in the process. Buzzo did the same thing, even though he knew what it did. Lisa and the mutants have the same mindset, and their desire to somehow take their pain away turned them both into monsters.

Lisa made the wrong choice. She was selfish and went for the easy way out, and she should've know just what it would do. She had turned Bernie into an utterly obedient dog and could've done anything she wanted with him, but could never get past her abuse, and she let that fact consume her. She screwed up as badly as anyone else, putting herself before the people who cared for her. Brad did the same thing. Buzzo did the same thing. Buddy did the same thing. Yado and Marty did it. She's as much of a fuck up as the rest of them.

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>>82797964
>it's a "misha implies I haven't seen every buddy lewd made" episode
>this episode happens every lisa thread

>>82797786

If Yado caused the white flash, the situation was fucked no matter what anyone did since trying to recover the human species with just one female will lead to a genetic bottleneck.

>>82797786
If you believe Mrs. Armstrong and Nancy Yado were one and the same, then she's responsible for everything.

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Here's this thing.

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>>82797786
>Marty and Yado both ultimately being responsible for what happened through paralleled acts of cruelty.
I could get behind that.

>It's an episode of using on the secondary characters.

>>82798161
I stick to the theory that the "world" Lisa takes place in is a giant biome Yado was in charge of or gained control over and decided to rule over it because he could create an army of mutants to enforce his rule and amuse himself.

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>>82797996
>Blaming a young girl for committing suicide after experiencing nothing but physical and emotional abuse since birth

Not saying that Lisa was the patron saint in this story, but I wouldn't put her anywhere near the same level as the people who destroyed the world.

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>>82798275
Damn captcha

>>82798275
>Olathe being a giant biome

I felt like that was the kind of reveal they were originally building up to, considering some of the things that Buzzo said, but the White Flash is never really expanded upon.

>>82798432
Could be mind altering, everyone only recalls a white flash.

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>It's a father daughter bonding episode

>>82798432
>>82798501
I always thought it was some kind of stun bomb. Dr Yado probably thought Olathe was perfect because it was easy to stop people leaving or something.

>>82793473
When Lisa is raped by that muscle guy and turn in Cthutu monster

>>82798022
Early on doesn't Buzzo say something about there being other women. He says the other women will like her or something like that? I always wondered about that.

>>82798674
>>82798501
>>82798432
>>82798275
Y'all are dumb. The white flash was a nuclear explosion obviously. With probably some other stuff probably mixed in that killed women and mutated some. I really doubt it's a biome.

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>>82798808
People have speculated that there was another version of Olathe with just women as a parallel experiment.

But I guess we'll never knooow.

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>>82798327
Are you sure about that?

After her abuse from Marty, and abandonment from Brad, she found Bernie, who loved her. He would do anything for her. He made this clear by mutilating a cat and herself at her request. She never bothered to consider that he would have tried to protect her from Marty if she had asked. No, she wanted to wallow in her suffering. It's completely understandable from her fucked up childhood, but it's no excuse. Was Buddy right to kill everyone in Olathe due to her raising? Was Brad for going on a rampage to get her back? They all fucked up badly. Lisa was no exception. I can't justify Marty or her actions and Marty's were definitely worse, and she went through hell her entire life, but suicide is never the answer. And this is clear by having joy be an alternative to suicide. Lisa would've been a joy addict as bad, if not worse, than Brad. Taking joy is explicitly bad.

>>82798916
Yado's wife died recently though, so it can't of killed them all. And there were no bodies left after the flash. A nuke wouldn't have knocked anyone out either.

>>82798916
>A nuclear explosion that only killed the women
Can you blame people for being skeptical?

>>82798161
I go with
really shitty stuff made Yado and Marty into the evil fucks they were
they were just another link in the chain of bad situations leading to bad choices
Lisa was just a really messed up girl acting on a terrible situation
Brad was just a really messed up guy trying to fix shit and failing
Doesn't make them any less responsible for what they did

There is no root of all evil, one guy to conveniently blame for all the bad stuff we do. We were the ones to do it.
It's not bad to hate the guys that do bad things to us but at some point that hate becomes useless.
Marty was just an evil loser. One evil guy in million. It was letting him become a "root" that really caused the cascade of horror for Brad

>The image of the man means more than the man himself

>>82797996
She was a little kid. Really she can't be blamed for anything that happened going through what she did. She was a product of her environment.

>>82797686
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZuI3ZkCHfs

I love this game's soundtrack.
https://soundcloud.com/l3dgy/death-raid

>>82793906
How the fuck did he cast meteor.

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>>82799124
so good godamn

>>82799034
I agree with this for the most part, but was there any backstory for Yado other than getting a kick out of the Joy experiments and liking the idea of ruling the world?

I don't recall him being any more complex than that.

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>>82799346
The nobody is a failure

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>>82799346
>I cried like a little bitch when I first reached this scene

rip dad...

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>>82798957
Pretty sure. I think she's part of a long chain of perpetuating emotional abuse that's more complicated than saying everyone's good or evil, but I don't think Lisa was given the same choices or opportunities as everyone else. Her Mother abandoned her, Brad ran away after being forced to rape her, and she was left in the care of her father.

The First metaphorically depicts her running away and attempting to fight back to no avail, and Bernard was supposedly just a young boy, who didn't have any answers to the situation other than giving in to her requests of self-mutilation.

Not advocating for suicide as an option either, but I think it's more morally grey than saying it automatically defines someone as inherently good or bad.

>>82799227
There was something strange about the guy though.

Why didn't he fight Buddy at the end? He could've squished her like a bug, instead he just stands there for half the battle until his health gets too low. Was he scared of her? Or was he just a hypocrite and couldn't kill his own daughter, despite having used her to destroy the world?

I go for the latter interpretation myself, just to show how he might could have a sliver of humanity inside him. And because it's similar to Marty, who only changed his ways, repented by caring for Buddy, and died begging forgiveness from the very girl he abused. Only showing a capacity for kindness at the last second, which somehow makes them seem more terrible/pathetic.

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>it's a "we're taking away the diversity and off-the-wall humor you liked from the main series for an edgy, story-driven epilogue" episode
>you want to dislike it, but it still stands up on its own merits
>also the soundtrack's surprisingly good

>>82799539
I thought it was just meant to portray him as a coward, considering that he apparently felt less than nothing about murdering his wife and abandoning his infant daughter in the wasteland.

Feeling some strange empathy for Buddy after being alone at the top of the world could be some hidden depth for him though.

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>>82799671
>it's a "new protag doesn't use the power-up from the previous series for over half the episodes and then realizes there's absolutely no penalty for using it"

>>82799716
I always figured it was something like that.
Yado probably figured she'd end up fucked up and horrible like him but didn't expect her to go as far as she did. I mean as far as we know Yado only "directly" killed one person for sure so it's like everything suddenly got much more "real" for him when Buddy showed up. I mean his actions and experiences all sort of separated/elevated him above all the horrible stuff going on and then suddenly reality came a knocking in the form of a drugged and vengeful Buddy

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>>82799516
It's true Lisa suffered in ways that no one else in the series suffered. And she had no way of coping. Neither did Buddy, who was locked in a basement and forced to kill. I do choose to believe that the morality of Lisa is very gray, with Marty and Yado being towards the black. Lisa, a confused girl who hated the world, was towards the bottom too, dragged down by her father, but I don't think she was evil, she just screwed up killing herself. Her death had a major impact on the world around her, and the Great Flash might've been avoided if she didn't. Joy definitely would have, right? Didn't Buzzo make it while working with Yado? Who knows what else he did with him. She still likely wasn't the kindest girl if she made a guy in love with her kill animals, and also say she'd love the new Olathe.

I also like the idea that the Armstrong line is generations of being fucked up. Marty doesn't seem to like the grandfather Brad idolized and learned from. Before his wife left, and maybe for a short time while Lisa was growing up, there was the "good" Marty, who just doesn't look right. It's creepy. I like to think Marty bottled up a lot of his emotions and put on a smiling face, and his wife was the first person who ever made his smile genuine. When she ran off, he had a meltdown and took it out on his kids. And years of being alone, he got all of his fucked up tendencies out and spent his life in seclusion. He really did do a good job taking care of Buddy, she wouldn't have defended him if not. If his wife didn't run out/die, everything would've been fine.

Another thing I wonder about is, how would Lisa and Buddy have been if their lives were swapped? The same? But Buddy isn't Lisa. I wonder how they would've lived.

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>>82794089
Wish there were more fan animations like that.

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>>82800243
>AU never

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>>82799346

>The Nobody hates himself

And yet, Dad comforts you.

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>>82799716
>>82800222

When Yado met her, he was surprised that she hadn't turned. He probably wanted her to mutate since he likes joy mutants and didn't have much of a stomach for the idea of killing his own daughter. He wanted her to be a part of his world.

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>>82792403

I HAVE AN IMAGE OF THAT!

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>the episode is censored in most countries

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>It's a Nern talks about his wife episode.

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>>82800243
>Marty taking care of Buddy.
I wish we could have learned more about that, but the fact that we don't makes far more impact.

Did he truly reform after years of isolation? Was he just waiting to repeat things the things that happened to Lisa with Buddy. How far can someone go morally before there's no coming back? All left ambiguous.

>If his wife didn't run out/die, everything would've been fine.
I don't know if he would have turned on his kids if he still had her, but the last tape sounds like Lisa's mother was dealing with abuse as well. So I wouldn't say Marty only had issues after she left.

>Buddy and Lisa switching places
Hard to say, though I guess it depends on how much you believe their upbringing defined their choices. Lisa's ultimate solution was self-destruction, while Buddy's was the destruction of everyone else.

Brad did nothing wrong!

I don't mean that in the retarded /pol/ way, I mean he actually did nothing wrong!

>>82800850
He had good intentions, but fucked up *badly*

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>>82800821
>Did he truly reform after years of isolation? Was he just waiting to repeat things the things that happened to Lisa with Buddy.

I think he did. Everyone who wanted to rape Buddy just attacked her as soon as they saw her. If Marty wanted to abuse Buddy like that, why would he need to wait when he was all alone with her on an island with nobody else around?

>>82800893
Not that badly, and not until the end, especially not compared to literally everyone else in the game.

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>>82800850

There was that time that he murdered a lot of people for dynamite. And that time that he took a guy hostage just to hire a gay swordsman, and that time that he sold the hostage anyways for 150 dirty magazines he didn't really need. Oh, and that time he accidentally burned a small commune of orphans to death.

Most of the shit he'd really have done wrong (severely beating Rick after getting info out of him, beating up Buddy to get to Marty) was just the Joy taking over.

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>>82800821
Part of me believes Lisa's self destruction was born out of her inability to do anything, and she would've become genocidal like Buddy if she had the opportunity. She just didn't see it as being possible. If she had lived, it would be interesting seeing her and Buddy interacting. I still think, though, their mindsets were much too different for the situations to wind up the same. Buddy could think beyond her suffering, and Lisa could only focus on her's. Lisa was a pessimist, Buddy was an optimist.

I'm still disappointed there was never a fight between Lisa and Buddy. Sure, she was dead, and Buddy didn't know her, but she could've had a hallucinatory fight with her somehow. Maybe as a secret boss, she sees a painting of her, and she imagines a fight against the girl supposedly responsible for everything.

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>>82800818
>It's a "Birdie gets smashed and burninates the entire area" episode

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>>82800985
It's not really the vibe I got, but it's possible that he could have been aiming to build up trust for something long term with her, rather than simply having his way with her once.

Considering how there are hints in The First of him having a softer relationship with Lisa before things went wrong.

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>>82801173
I trusted you Matt and Pat...

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>If Brad had given Buddy to Dustin everything would have been just fine

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>>82801175
I think Buddy was still a pessimist. Just a different sort.

>>82801173
That wasn't his fault, that was the fault of Austin for not giving a way to get around those things.

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>>82801521
>buddy gets raped to death and the human race is fucked
>implying rando could prevent that when buddy got (???)'d at the start of the joyful with most of his army dead

>>82800243
Buzzo helped but it probably would have still happened.

>>82801479
>trusting Matt and Pat
I bet you think Pat hasn't completed DS3 multiple times too.

>>82800633
It's true. Notice it says "most".

>>82800821
> Did he truly reform after years of isolation? Was he just waiting to repeat things the things that happened to Lisa with Buddy. How far can someone go morally before there's no coming back? All left ambiguous.

I think he was TRYING to reform. I don't at the time he would have had the intent of hurting Buddy. But it seems that he would have fallen back into old patterns, just like he did when he lost his wife. Something would have triggered it, Olathe is just too chaotic, the Armstrongs are too unstable and really, does Marty have any experience being a proper parent? He might just get frustrated and become old Marty, taking it all out on Buddy.

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>>82801521

>Buddy doesn't get self-defense training from hell to turn her into a hyper-competent ninja
>Rando's army gets decimated by a horde of horny pedophiles after word of Buddy's existence inevitably gets out
>Brad becomes regretful and leads the charge against Rando, intending to protect Buddy and murder every last warrior he's recruited after Buddy's "safe"

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>>82792403
rip, poop guy

>>82800893
His army was so powerful they weren't messed with by the other warlords. He would have made sure that Buddy was treated as well as possible.

>>82801790
Nobody but Brad could have done anything. Brad also could have lived with Rando's army since Dustin still considered him his father.

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>>82801790
>>82801602
>>82801521
Rando is truly the worst character.

>>82801479
I thought it was Tiger Man that did that until I read on the wiki that it was them. God dammit.

>>82801888
Maybe if Rando just told him "hey dad i'm dustin get buddy and chill with me and my army and you'll be good senpai"

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>>82794507
>The girls always win
>Literally every time

Find me one exception, /co/

>>82794089
PERFECT

>>82801971
But Dusty was dead to Brad, or thought he was anyway. Brad would never let anyone near Buddy because he's so stubborn anyway.

>>82802006
KND.

>>82801971
He probably would have.

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>>82801971

Brad's avoidant of Dusty, though. Remember when flashback Brad told Buddy that Dusty was not his son? He'd get cold feet and back out of the deal.

>>82801593
>That wasn't his fault, that was the fault of Austin for not giving a way to get around those things.

>muh "there must always be a fucking way"

You people disgust me almost as much as you're usually missing the point. You're not fit to appreciate any character driven stories.

>>82802006
In Futurama they decided that everyone sucked.

Still a pretty tired setup though.

>>82801602
>>82801790

We've been through this at /v/, Rando's army only disappeared because of Brad. Rando himself was perfectly capable of bitch slapping anyone who'd try to get Buddy away from him.

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>>82801771
I could believe that.

In a way, you could see it as a race to see which Armstrong would have their violent relapse first.

Brad won.

>>82794089
Deserves more views.

>>82802006
Chaotic, kinda. The boy won using all girl monsters and the girl lost using all boy monsters.

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>>82800818
>It's a Carp is immune to Joy Withdrawal episode.

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LISA Threads: Good on every board

>>82800633

I don't really listen to what this bloated hippo and "her" professional critics.

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>>82802468
Is he? His specials were still useful on withdraw but his normal attack was crap.

>>82802468
You know, I was so set on keeping Brad away from Joy, that I didn't even consider that giving it to the rest of the party was an option.

>>82802644
I don't know who that person is and while I agree there's a significant cultural difference between the US and Japan regarding animation mostly caused by what's profitable; this quote comes off as spiteful.

Still, Paprika is legit.

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>>82801362

It's possible, but not really probable. Anyone who wanted to fuck Buddy wasn't exactly interested in grooming her beforehand, why would Marty be any different?

>>82801593

If Dingaling didn't give Brad the option to do something, it's because it wouldn't be in character for Brad to do it. At the end of the game, there isn't any option for Brad to just give up and let the Rando army have Buddy, because it'd be out of character for him to do so.

>>82802697

He isn't. There are some joy addicts who are immune to withdrawal because of a bug that never lets them get afflicted though, among them are Birdie, Fly, and Rage.

>>82801790

Too bad Brad couldn't have just joined the Rando army. I'm sure Rando would have been just find with Brad being Buddy's bodyguard, and their combined might would be enough to make sure all the other warlords fuck off.

The biggest concern would be traitors within the ranks.

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>>82794124

Kinda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvw38gk1fEQ

>>82802901
>this quote comes off as spiteful.

She is mad Hiro from BH8 isn't asian. This landwhale is a known sjw.

>>82803210

>BH8

I mean Big Hero 6. S

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>>82802846

It still counts against you for the Joyless ending trigger, but a lot of lower-tier party members become useful when they're on Joy. Roger, Clint and the Tiger Man are amazing when they can actually hit things and do damage.

>if the secondary withdrawal trigger actually worked, Fly and Birdie would no longer be OP
>poor Rage would be pushed past lower-mid tier into "fucking never" tier

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>tfw no irl joy

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>>82803040
>Too bad Brad couldn't have just joined the Rando army.
We could have had it all.

>>82803292
Do you really want to turn into a brainless, violent and terrifying mutant?

me too

Does the dev loved/hated HNK or something?

>>82803292

>Letting drugs ruin your body, mind and soul

What? Are you from /x/ or some shit like that?

>>82803292
Ketamine, heroine, morphine.

Unless you're after something that'll change your physical form then try krodil.

I'd post a pic but mods are ban happy about "gore" these days.

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>>82803210
>>82803247
>not asian

Is his eyes not almond shaped enough?

>>82803464

Jesus Christ. Why would anyone do that shit to themselves?

>>82803464

That spoiler should be krokodil.

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>>82803040
A bit off topic but what happened to /indie/ is it gone?

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>>82801187
>It's a "Joke character reveals his super ultra insta-kill attack move" episode

>>82802901
Don't know anything about Paprika.

But this makes it look like Japanese animation is the absolute best there is. There's some good shit, no doubt, but they're in a different kind of rut, and that's fan service types of shows.

Why bother making an unique show or an overly long commercial of a manga when you can please the common denominator with cutesy girls and slice of life shows? Don't bother with risking creativity, or you'll possibly lose out on profits.

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>>82803684

>>82803569
All the indie games were... killed anon.

We

We don't like to talk about it.

I assume it's just on break. Make your own /indie/ general thread and people will respond.

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>>82803464
>google image searched against my better judgment

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>>82803569

It's still on /vg/ we even get the occasional drawfag.

>>82803781

>Gone Home

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>>82803684

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Whats the best song in LISA and why is it these two?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5IYMI-Mxu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De6FChX1JxA

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>>82804188
I think you linked the wrong songs. Allow me to assist you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWHxy2nFW4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbBAMTF-yY4

>>82804188
>Not this.
https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=aZuI3ZkCHfs

What even are those lyrics?

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>>82804188
I'm partial to The Joyful's credits, and He's My Dad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeRwLwBah1Y

>>82804188

W2D can do vaporwave, but I can dig LISA's absurdist battle music a bit more. You just can't hear something like those weirder tracks anywhere else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MQTlrTzb8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IVU_VYN8ZY

>>82803684
Well Paprika was back before that became a major issue. Satoshi Kon has a great library of works all worth checking out. Not many of them though, he died a couple years ago.
Perfect Blue, Millennium Actress, Tokyo Godfathers, Paranoia Agent and Paprika. Magnetic Rose was decent too but I think he only did animation for it, not full directing.

>>82792403
LISA wasn't as good as Undertale.

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>>82804637

Apples aren't as good as oranges, either.

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>>82804446
>Satoshi Kon
He's making gritty psychedelic works for angels now.

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>>82804431
>not posting the music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661orq-tcDc

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>>82804637

I enjoyed both.

Muffet a best girl.

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>>82804637
it's been 6 months since i played both in succession

i still can't decide which one i like more

Guys, I don't like Lisa. I know, I know, I played the games, but in hindsight they're just too sad. To point of being unhealthy.

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>>82804637
Can we not do this anon?

This shit happens every single time someone brings up LISA and it's honestly a disservice to people who haven't played LISA.

I mean it's a shitty person who doesn't play a game just because someone else says it wasn't as good as another game of similar genre but don't give them that nudge.

Some people might enjoy a story that isn't wrapped up with a neat bow instead "lol power of anime solves everything" is all.

>>82802901
Parika was the worst Kon though.

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>>82804699
Why does cancer hate the good?

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>>82804910
It isn't for everyone.

>>82805048

Worst Kon was Millennium Actress.
Best Kon was Tokyo Godfathers

>>82795990
Exactly. I remember being there for a thread when the demo got released and we all had a goddamn blast (and jerked it to Toriel)

Now everybody hates it. Granted, the fandom is kinda annoying but so is any other fandom in it's own way.

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>>82804910
Some games can be happy. Some games can be scary. Some games can be sad.

Sometimes focusing too much on one emotion can sometimes taint it, makes it boring. I think Lisa the Painful balances the depressing moments quite well. Besides, it's refreshing to feel sad / depressed, which is an emotion that doesn't show up too often in vidya gaems.

What exactly about it do you not like? Just that it's sad? Nobody says you have to like Lisa.

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>>82804637
Sorry I'm not into anime.

>>82804726
Didn't know there was a music video actually.

Tis melancholy.

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>It's an episode

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>>82804910

I thought LISA the Painful wasn't wholly pessimistic. Weird things happen in the world, and while you're strapped in for the ride of a broken man holding onto the one thing he holds dear in life you take time to perform sentai RP and defeat mutated horrors with magic tricks and wrestling moves. It's a roller coaster of varying emotions, and not a lot of games do that nowadays.

Now, LISA the First and LISA the Joyful, those are some depressing games. Dingaling really ought to stick to using absurd comedy to alleviate his work, since he can get a little melodramatic.

Why are /co/ lisa threads so much more chill

>>82805009
LISA's story is wrapped up in a neat bow, though. In fact there's only one possible outcome, and two in the DLC, which are selected by a Mass Effect 3 style menu rather than any ingame choices.

Meanwhile Undertale has the potential for a wide variety of very messy endings.

>>82805301
All Lisa threads are chill

>>82805165
You motherfucker, how long did it take for you develop taste that shit? Or were you born with it?

>>82805351
/v/ threads are just 400 assblasted posts of "Why isn't Lisa more popular than Undertale!"

>>82805165
>he doesn't love the chasing

Fag

>>82805528
every thread on /v/ is complaining about popular games being popular and niche games being niche
everyone on /v/ is an autistic child
this isn't news

>>82805301
Because rage doesn't hide the tears

>>82805528
/vol/ doesn't give a shit about the game they only praise because it "triggers" them SJWs.

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>>82805783
>this entire post

What is this game about?

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So who's the father?

Austin himself said it wasn't Brad.

And Buddy said Bolo didn't get the chance if you decided to hang onto the barbed wire.

What always bugged me was the age difference. Buddy is clearly a young adult, but the baby looks maybe a year old at most.

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>>82805528
What did you expect from /v/.

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>>82805295
I thought The First was fine, having a consistent tone for the short depressive piece that it was.

The Joyful was a bit harder to get into, because as an epilogue things were already about as terrible as they could be from the get-go, and Buddy started in full murder-mode rather than fully developing an arc of her own.

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Somewhat on the topic of the thread, since LISA's RPGmaker:
How do you feel about Yume Nikki?

>>82805847
Why would it be Brad?

I imagine that the father wasn't any established character, and was just someone Buddy met some years later down the road.

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>>82805341
Main game has 2.5 possible
Joyless, Joyful, and Pain Mode
Joyful has 2.5
Antidote, Join Them, and Join Them-Alt

Undertale has 2.5
You fucked up do it again, Pacifist, and Genocide

I mean I suppose you could be referring to slight changes based on what you've previously done but realistically they're all quite minor.

You say "potential" but the result you get from playing all the endings of Painful/Joyful is a greater understanding of the story and it's possible outcomes while doing all the endings of Undertale is the game telling you to not have done them which frankly feels like an excuse for people say it's much deeper than it is.

>>82805528
>/v/ threads about LISA
>/v/ threads
>/v/

Well there's your problem friendo
try /vg/ next time

>>82805814
>OFF
Oh baby, we've gone full /indie/

>>82805528
Recently? I managed to get into one that lasted quite a bit and it was mostly everyone talking about their memories going in blind about the game and making simple comparisons with it and Undertale for a short while. I hardly see those Lisa threads now but it was incredibly nice.

>>82805992
It's probably one of the greatest games I've ever played and a huge influence on indie games as a whole.

Of course, most people are just going to say that it's a shitty walking simulator.

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>>82805992
It's ok but a bit boring.

>>82805847
Dale Spooner. He raped her when she was tied up.

Also, that kid looks about 3-4. Babies don't wear trousers or have long arms. That would put Buddy between 14-16 too, which makes sense

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>>82805847

We don't know what age grown up Buddy is. But we know at that point, it's possible for her to become a joy mutant.

Brad had been taking joy before he found Buddy, so it took him over a decade to turn into a mutant. Maybe the ending scene of joyful takes place 10+ years down the line too.

Then again, Yado was surprised she hadn't already mutated, so maybe it just works faster on girls.

>>82805847
The father could the guy at the beginning that rando's crew had to kill.

>>82806222
That's because grills are more emotional :^)

>>82804031
I always thought that Terry was saying "What is this? This is POWER!" and it was so much more badass.

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>>82806132

We haven't brought up Space Funeral or herm Bubsy yet, though.

>>82806222
Buddy could have been taking joy for 10+ years too. Brad wasn't exactly careful where he left those things around. Little blue round things are maximum swallowbait for children.

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>>82806222

>fanart of LISA
>using commas

>>82792403
Japanime is really shit though.

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>>82806295
That does sound more badass anon.
I'd headcanon it lol

>>82806419
Point, but I'd say 4 so far ain't bad.

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The entirety of this thread feels like I'm on uboachan again.

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>>82806518

It's not their fault Dingaling can't into spelling and grammar.

>>82806565
I miss it terribly. I still go back sometimes to see if there's ever anything new, but there isn't.

>>82806132
Queen Roger had the best line in the game.

I'm a cross-dresser, not some pansy. Putting panties on didn't make my balls disappear.

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>>82806709

>You messing with my queers, Fat Boy?

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>>82797021
>mfw I said no.

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>>82804257
Wew! I was thinkin: a LISA thread on /co/ and nobody posted BIG LINCOLN? Just when I thought The Joyful wouldn't get as badass The Painful by the end, NOPE. I get fuckin SENT TO HELL.

>>82803408
Yeah the world is kinda influenced by HNK. What with the apocalyptic landscape and burly men making each other explode.

>>82804188
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoGa10vYnXI
The most badass fuckin song imaginabile. It only adds to it that Brad is armless (heh. well, it's what I think is canon) Brad fighting dozens of Rando goons completely alone. At the very final moment before getting your daughter back. I came at least three times during the fight ahhhhh I still remember the chills I got from this battle holy shit.

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWggs66Fv9U
But then you slowly start to realize that Brad is losing control. All of the Rando goons are fleeing from you. You're just tearing them apart limb from limb. You're changing into something else now. And there's nothing you can do about it. No other videogame made me feel so many things all at once.

And this one from the Joyful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTKOah18x0g

It's so out of place. But at the same time its groovy as fuck.

>>82804910
That's alright it's definitely not for everyone. Usually games have 70-80% awesomeness/cuteness with around 20% sadness ratio. Lisa is about 85% sadness/frustration/creepy shit you don't even want to think about. At times it can be morbidly funny. Or even endearing. But yeah most of it is pretty depressing.

Please /co/, I love LISA, I love your chiller side at times (kinda like /tg/), I know it's not comics/cartoons related. But please let LISA threads stay.

And try it out! The combo system is hella fun, the storytelling is amazeballs, music is top notch. It may be an 'earthbound-clone' but it definitely belongs more in its own category.

>>82806132
There's an alt of the join them ending?

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>>82806946

Depending on whether or not you dropped Rando, joy mutant Buddy might have a baby in her hand.

Although, that's kind of a weird scenario. Did she give birth to it before or after mutating? How come she didn't wind up killing the baby? How can she even take care of it or is he just going to die of exposure while cradled in his mother's mutated hand?

>>82805847
I'd say it's someone Buddy met later on her life.

>>82806219
Dale got fuckin ripped apart. There's no way he got her preggo in that short amount of time.

>>82805889
Honestly why are people so mad at Buddy for being so bloodthirsty?

As far as her and everyone else's knowledge in Olathe, she's the last female alive! Literally everyone is suicidal and turning gay n shit!

If she didn't adopt her bloodthirsty ways she would've been easily raped by almost anyobdy! Everybody even! Thankfully that's not the way Brad raised her.

Also: remember in Painful when you meet Marty in the cave? When Marty asks her about the little blue pills she had with her, she says something along the lines of: "They don't taste good but they make you feel good". Which means she probably stole some from Brad. Or got it somewhere else. Who knows.

The point is we know that Joy tends to make people a "tad" aggressive.

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>>82806660
Something about going back to uboachan and looking through it is so surreal and depressing.
There's new posts once in a blue moon, but all the reaction images just feel like they got taken straight out of 2007 or 2008.
>uboachan has it's own /co/

>>82807114
It's an odd feeling mostly when I saw her being so aggressive and Rando had to try to reason things out when he can. And when it came to his death I felt even more bitter against Buddy but towards the finale, now I just feel bad. The execution with Brad at the end was perfect and really brings it all home to me.

The only one I felt a little indifferent towards is Buzzo and Lisa herself.

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>>82807294
There's a lot of nasty shit done by people who may not have had bad intentions. By the end you can piece the stuff together and realize that mostly everyone were just victims of circumstance. Well except for Yado and Marty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwyOCdt1mEo

definitely one of the most emotional songs in the game

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>>82807114
Brad had been taking the Joy for years, but his downward spiral in The Painful was still presented as an interesting progression, rather than skipping to having him immediately murder everyone he came across. His actions started out with more tragic ambiguity.

I understand Buddy going into survival mode, but we don't really see her develop into the mind-set. It's straight to murdering pacifists and spitting on any chance to connect to Rando, the one guy trying to help her see reason.

>>82794331

>undertale cartoon
>something only popular because of how it reacts to your choices turned into a format that allows none

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>it's an episode where the West disses Japanese animation
Best episodes

>>82803494

He's half Asian, instead of full, and also Japanese instead of Korean

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>>82807626
I'm sorry Terry...

I don't want to do this either Shocklord...

Go to hell El Rage...

>>82802006
FRIENDS

>>82807832
The saddest part is that Brad most definitely doesn't give a single shit about having to kill his partners, even if they were the more attached ones Like Shocklord or Terry.

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>it's a "bad guys impersonate the heroes and try to ruin their reputation by doing all sorts of bad stuff" episode.

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I love this korean chicks art it's so cute

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>>82807082
Y'know one thing we know about joy mutants is that they pretty much stop being directly aggressive once they've achieved their "desire" unless their desire is specifically to be violent.

It could be that Buddy skipped on the antidote but then sort of realized too late that she'd rather save the world than end it. Thus she has the kid but her mutant form had already sort of achieved it's deepest desires so it wouldn't hurt the baby.

>>82807832
>Terry's final speech before he fights Brad

oh god, I wasn't ready

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>>82807937
>>82807937

>Those sprite changes on some characters

>>82807799
Filthy mud people, only the pure blooded matter.

>>82792403
What book is this from, this art looks nice.

>>82807937
Brad... I've been a loser my whole life. Hanging around you have made me feel strong for once. Like a man... The first day we met was the best day of my life. ... Even before the world changed... Maybe you don't feel the same way... But you're my best friend dude. It's just this... Brad this is our future your messing with... I'm sorry. We can't let you do this.

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>>82807746
Yeah I guess it was kinda abrupt. I think it had more to do with the fact that Joyful was more of a DLC or an epilogue. It couldn't really shoot for the scope or length of the Painful. I still enjoyed it because at least we got an explanation for Buzzo's actions.

>>82808072
It think it's just fanart for the game being discussed.

>>82807895
Doesn't Bo Wyatt's familiar tune make everyone cry?

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>>82807114
>Honestly why are people so mad at Buddy for being so bloodthirsty?

I think people emphasized more with Rando, so they didn't like Buddy shitting on him all the time.

If Rando had died after his encounter with Brad, people probably would have been more understanding on Buddy's murder spree. The only "good" warlord was Mr Beautiful, and arguably Lardy Hernandez. Even the warlords and people who were just minding their own business probably would have attacked Buddy if they had half the chance, as you can see in the village from Joyful so it'd be hard to take their side if it was just Buddy and no Rando.

>>82808074

http://indiegame.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=rando

I haven't gotten everything tagged, but I'm working on it.

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>>82808074

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>>82807832
"For the first time I'm speechless... Brad my boy... This is history and it's for the best."

"... Sorry... But you can't do this. She is our future. ...I'm going to miss drinking with you."

"I don't like this... Guys this ain't right. Brad I don't want to hurt you! Stand down! Please..."

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>>82807895
By the end of the game? Yeah definitely.

But during most of the game? Maybe ye maybe not. He does say he doesn't need companions. But you can make some choices that say otherwise... It's up to the player really.

>>82807937
Terry is love
Terry is life

>>82808164
What books is it from though? Is it ongoing?

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>>82808108
It would have been nice to see the Joyful get its own full game. But I still appreciated the final dream sequence.

>>82808215
I wanted more on Sindy Gallows. The only guy apparently trying to mount an offensive against the Joy mutants.

>>82802901
But it's 100% true though. There are multiple people in Japan creating stuff like Paprika that's challenging and explores the medium well. There aren't any over here.

>>82792403
So, what show or comic is this from again?

>>82803292
PCP

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>>82808215
Why couldn't they just act like real siblings and rule over Olathe together? ;_;

I wonder if the world can come back from how it is after Joyful. At the end there were no humans left. I guess there had to be a few but it seems everyone tried joy at least once.

>>82808391
None.

>>82808580
>None

What publisher I checked darkhorse and icon and they dont have it.

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>>82803684
>>82804031
>Towards the beginning of the game Terry got kidnapped and I didn't know how to go and get him back. I left the area and he was gone forever. Later on I found his village.

>>82808677
Actually marvel

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>>82808403
>Joyful get its own full game

I think everyone would loved to have the warlords elaborated upon a little more. They were stille pretty fuckin badass tho

>>82808577
I thought the same thing too. Like, 'good job Buddy you can now rule over precisely nothing'. But apparently Buzzo mentions a group of females hidden someplace. So there might be hope.

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>>82808567
The bromance I hoped for...

>>82804637
I loved them both. One made me feel fantastic and one made me feel terrible.

>>82793906
I recognize that face from something else, but I'm not sure what

>>82808780
Damn no results. Is it even on Amazon or Ebay that's how I buy all my comics.

>>82793906
Your heart seems unhappy... Let's cheer it up.

>>82808874
It's on /v/ anon

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Who was your final party?

I think I had Birdie, Nern and Bo Wyatt for my first playthrough and replaced Bo with Terry for my second.

>>82805992
It's unplayable on modern computers

>>82794331
>LISA vs Undertale meme

Fuck off /indie/

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>it's a Terry threatens to kill himself episode

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>>82808567
>>82808835

>>82806814
I never understood the sends you to hell move because nothing really happens.

>>82808567
Because Buddy's personality was completely rewritten between Painful and Joyful in order to keep the "u wer the bad guy all along :c" guilt trip going.

Rarely have I been more disappointed with a DLC. Everything that was good about LISA was cheapened in Joyful.

>>82793993
Yeah, that's because the people making cartoons in the 90s grew up with Speed Racer in the 70s. This kind of shit always lags behind a few decades.

It's like how tentacles are the go-to anime joke now, despite that being mostly a holdover from the 80s.

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>>82808981

Birdie, Terry, Nern.

>>82808998

Isn't that a /v/ meme?

>>82808945
Hmmm, so you're telling me this piece of content we're discussing isn't a cartoon nor comic?

Damn, this means it has no reason to be on /co/. Yet.....it is.

>>82807082
Joy mutants try to do their greatest desire, for most people they don't have anything that drives them so they turn to extreme bloodshed but Brad just wanted to protect Buddy and didn't go that path when he could have and Buddy I guess wanted to protect her baby.

>>82808981
Ajeet, Nern, and Percy.

Olan was best secondary member until he died.

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heh

>>82809133
Cry to the mods. I'm surprised this is still ongoing but whatever.

banana... peel

>>82809133
Waste your time elsewhere while we waste our time here.

>>82809114
It may be /v/ but being that /indie/ is all about the LISA and Undertale is their sister thread, LISA v Undertale is always brought up.

I swear sometimes /indie/ is packed full of the biggest fags. Fags that have never gotten the pussy. Fags that have never been invited to parties. Fags that can't even drive standard. Fags, fags, fags!

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>>82809155

A party member? I'll kidnap him! No one will ever know!

Rot in hell, Dale Spooner.

>"Time is a great teacher. Sadly, it kills all it's pupils... Howdy motherfucker."
post great lines

>>82808981
post related >>82808327
(Nern, Olan, and Shocklord)

>>82807082
I was surprised that taking no Joy didn't change more.

At least she doesn't beat Rando to death on Joyless runs.

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>>82809058
>nothing really happens
>What even is that sickass skull motif

>pic related
is what I imagine him doing to Buddy

>>82800633
I still don't understand what the fuck was up with the ending of Paprika. The first half or so of that movie was amazing but then it shit the bed

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>>82809261
>"The soup will never die!"

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>>82809133

That was a meandering way to complain. You could have saved yourself an hour or two of fake naïveté and played some LISA.

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>>82808567
Would have been a grand old time.

>>82809353
I love how all the achievement icons in LISA are butts.

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>>82809222

You seem a little obsessed with fags, do you have something to share with the class?

>>82809264

How Rando meets his end at Buddy's hands depends on whether or not you choose to trust him at the start of the game, not your joy consumption.

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Nothing can stop him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e_c6khqOow

>go in expecting examples of bad western anime parodies
>it's just a stealth /v/ thread
Disappointing.