Octopus Pie

>>82755274
I don't know what she thinks she's proving, she'll be sobbing her eyes out next update.

this comic blows

i hope everyone who reads it gets food stuck in their teeth

>>82755274
Those insults are pretty dumb. It would have been infinitely more devastating if he just ended it in the third panel

>every "millenial" article ever written

>>82755274
We accept only your freshest memes.

So if I understand this correctly, Eve left Park by way of not wanting to move with him, didn't contact him in years, agreed to meet with him when he called out of the blue, got dolled up for "lunch or whatever", happily had casual sex with him despite knowing he's leaving the next day - and now makes a scene because, why? Park didn't show up FOR HER but had other business? Park didn't think of her as his first priority in NY after all these silent years? Park didn't telepathically figure out her hopes and needs and control Eve's behaviour so that she wouldn't hurt herself? Park is Park. It's how he is. He didn't manipulate or lie, he offered, and Eve took the offer, and now is being a bitch because it didn't match her unrealistic daydreams

>>82757107

Park left new york, they broke up rather than have long a distance relationship, booty calls her out of the blue, they meet up, fug before lunch because he's "not going to be in town for long", then park casually drops that he's been in town for a lot longer and only decided to call her when time was short instead of giving her a "hey, I'm in town for a while on business. I'm kinda busy for the next week or so but maybe we can meet up before I leave again?"

Which is the polite thing to do in this sort of situation.

note that if she had up and left she'd have been kinda stuck as his little housewife - jobs don't grow on trees and if you're working dead end retail picking up and getting a new job on the other side of the country ain't an easy prospect. They broke up because Park needed to live his life, and eve staying with him would have meant her also living his life, whereas eve wants to share her life with other people.

Also you don't bad mouth hannah, who isn't even a stoner any more.

>>82755985
how do you check how fresh a meme is?

Is it like going to a grocery store and poking and touching fruits and vegetables?

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>>82757354

gotta shake the meme and listen for that sloshing sound.

>>82757354
A panel of expert memesmiths is called to evaluate the dankness of the material.

>>82755274
well, I hope her laughter means she's gotten over him and totally not a facade for her to break and be depressed about forever

>>82755274
I don't know what this comic is about, but that girl character seems like an absolute vapid cunt. Is she supposed to be?

>>82755274
I haven't read this webcomic since the beginning of the lasertag arc. That might have been a fucking decade ago. I actually have a fucking physical copy of the first volume somewhere that I bought dirt cheap from a closing Borders book store.

Is it worth catching up on? Is that the fucking guy from the very beginning of this webcomic?

>>82757340
>and eve staying with him would have meant her also living his life, whereas eve wants to share her life with other people.

Eve doesn't want to better herself in anyway.

Park is sort of an asshole and you're not wrong about what would have ended up happening had she went with him but ultimately it would have happened because Eve wouldn't have cared to try and do anything with her life.

They're both assholes but Park is an asshole who has shit going for him. As much as "I'm angry you threw a drink on me look how immature I am losing my cool rawr I'm angry loser" is painting him badly Eve is still a loser.

Park is a shitter and Eve is a dumb whore.
Can we get back to Hannah, Marek and Will please?

>>82757636
plz respond

>>82757953
>It's a slice of life/drama thing about young adults going about their bohemian lives in the form of a WEBCOMIC!

The answer will always and forever be fuck no.

>>82757547
Pretty much.

>>82757340
Maybe calling someone out of the blue to see if they want to meet instead of scheduling things days in advance isn't "the polite thing to do", but it's absolutely not a valid reason to throw a drink on someone.

They broke up, she didn't want to move with him because it wasn't the right thing for her, good for her but she can't blame him for that. Seeing how she was the one to make the decision of breaking up and didn't contact him for years, she has no right to be upset at him for not having called her first thing he's in town, they lead separate lives now. He called when he had some time during his trip and felt like it - maybe at first he didn't want to see her at all but changed his mind. It doesn't appear he lied, and she should have figured out how things are if she only hears from him as he's already in town and leaving tomorrow. He doesn't owe her knowledge of his whereabouts.

They've not been in contact for a long time and Park isn't responsible for Eve's emotions- he clearly doesn't really even know her anymore, he doesn't know her expectations and frankly they aren't his problem. She built all her expectations up by herself - she can be disappointed and maybe angry at herself for reading too much into "hey I'm in town right now and we haven't talked in years and I'm leaving tomorrow (yeah, calling you very suddenly and last-minute) but anyway was wondering if you wanted to get lunch or whatever". But her disappointment is not Park's fault and she has no right to throw drinks at him because things don't go as she envisioned.

Park may not be the most considerate person, but he's just like he was before, he didn't lie or manipulate or pretend that he or the situation is anything more than it is. Eve shouldn't have met him if she can't deal with that, but she chose to do that. Park just offered, and she took the offer and is now throwing drinks at him because things don't go like she wanted and she drifted apart with Gwen

>>82757636

Yes.

>>82758311
>but it's absolutely not a valid reason to throw a drink on someone

good thing it was depicted as a 100% emotional response then

>>82755456
>I don't know what she thinks she's proving
Probably that Park's manipulative bullshit doesn't affect her like it used to.

>>82758458
>She was in the wrong here
>SHE WAS EMOTIONAL

The two are clearly mutually exclusive

>>82758458
It's being depicted as a cool and reasonable thing to do.

>>82758476
>I'll throw a drink at him and then burst out laughing

She really showed him!

>>82758476
But it does affect her though.

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>>82757107
>So if I understand this correctly, Eve left Park by way of not wanting to move with him,
Park forced an ultimatum on her at the absolute last minute and then made her feel like shit when she wouldn't uproot her entire life just for him.

Park does not respect the idea of Eve independent of him at all. Without him, Eve is just some stupid New Yorker. When he leaves, his argument for Eve coming with him is that "It would be good for you"- as if, just because he doesn't like his life in New York, Eve shouldn't either, that there's nothing there Eve could possibly enjoy or want to hold on to, like her friends.

>Park didn't think of her as his first priority in NY after all these silent years? Park didn't telepathically figure out her hopes and needs and control Eve's behaviour so that she wouldn't hurt herself?
Why the hyperbole? He is simply self-centered. There is nothing ridiculous about that concept.

>>82758503
Look how flustered he is. She kind of did show him.

>>82758538
Not in the way Park wants.

>>82758503
You go girl!

>>82758661
>Look how flustered he is.
He's got drink on him, contacts are all fucked up, he has to pay for a drink he didn't get to finish and everyone else just got a show at his expense.

I'm not sure her reaction is the only thing that has him flustered.

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>>82757662
>who has shit going for him
What? Money?

Dude barely has a social life, it's just a list of priorities to him that he complains about. Sure it's great that he can angrily throw $50 at a table and think nothing of it but he clearly feels like he has something to prove with all those insults despite that.

>>82758752
>He's got drink on him, contacts are all fucked up, he has to pay for a drink he didn't get to finish and everyone else just got a show at his expense.
Yeah. He got showed.

>I'm not sure her reaction is the only thing that has him flustered.
Nah. It's definitely a huge part of it. There's a whole panel dedicated to him going "Wha-?!?" at the fact that she can't take his insults seriously.

>>82757547
>I don't know what this comic is about, but that girl character seems like an absolute vapid cunt.

This should be a /co/ banner.

Well, I guess that's the last of Park. Hopefully Eve can move on now, I'm a little tired of seeing these characters backslide every other chapter after things started to improve.

Looking at you, Marigold. Don't fuck it up again.

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>>82758487
Not really, that's the whole reason there's a lizard here. She was acting completely on impulse like the stupid bitch she is just because she wasn't invited to a wedding.

>>82758483
Something that is wrong in the moment can still be the right thing to do overall.

We're not about our every individual action. There is always a larger context to consider.

>>82759377
Throwing a drink in someone's face in the context is still childish to do.

There is nothing about this that was right for her to do. It's the comics way of having her show she's finally done with someone she should have been done with years ago.

No matter how much you want to waifu her she's being a baby. Park's not a great guy by any means but you could still replace him with anyone else and she's still being a child.

This is honestly something I would imagine strawman Hipster to actually say:

>Why did you just spill your drink on me the fuck
>We're not about our every individual action. There is always a larger context to consider.
>You just ruined my shirt
>In the grand scheme of things this was really cathartic for me haha I've finally grown up
>My shirt you asshole
>I've really learned something here today and matured as a person

>>82759472
>I've really learned something here today and matured as a person
Not the guy you're responding to but making bad decisions and messing up (which is what the other anon seems you be saying) sometimes results in maturation.

>>82759557
There is absolutely nothing to be learned from purposefully spilling a drink on someone outside of "You shouldn't purposefully spill a drink on someone." The fact that Eve has no reaction to it outside of facetious laughter in an attempt to appear to be the better person here just goes to show how immature she really is.

>>82760399
The lesson she's learning here is "Park is an asshole, I'm emotional, and it's about time we admit we hate each other". Her laughter is geniune and she's not trying to be the better person either.

It's only a drink, you know. They've been doing worse stuff to each other for far longer. You shouldn't get distracted by the degree of rudeness that comes with spilling drinks on people.

>>82759277
I didn't even register it was a "lizard brain" thing (didn't spot the outline). just thought it was a reference to something from a previous strip (or maybe confusing it with the magic lizard from Oglaf)

>>82759377
Throwing drinks on someone and possibly ruining their possibly very expensive clothes is a fucking shit thing to do. Ruining other people's property and forcing them to walk home wet with fucked up contacts because YOU built up unrealistic expectations by yourself is a shit thing to do.


Eve is a fucking bitch, man.

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>>82760736
>getting this defensive about a shirt because it might have been REALLY EXPENSIVE

And Park had the gall to say Eve was pretentious? Sorry, ruining a shirt is not worse than ruining another person's mood or hopes.

>>82755274
I have never read any of this comic before but this page makes the dude look like the good guy here.

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>every American SoL comic is full of trashboat characters
>every
>single
>one

Who are we supposed to be rooting for here?
Why did she throw a drink on him?

>people are actually defending this deranged cunt's behavior because "it's just a drink lmao"

Slapping someone across the face doesn't really hurt them either, it's still totally unacceptable to do without serious provocation. You freaks should leave the house sometime.

>>82758752
the contacts thing is more likely a reference to him being uncomfortable with them in the first place (and his character still being that way). He complains about them whenever he wears them and prefers to wear glasses, or at least he did before he left.

>>82761084
art imitates life

>>82761084
I'm actually surprised this comic isn't part of Hiveworks, the black hole of bland webcomics.

>>82759277
It's not just because she wasn't invited to her childhood friend's wedding. It's also (and moreso) because she thought that things would be different with Park and they were not. They were together before he moved away, and didn't really get to resolve their feelings and relationship before he sprang his ultimatum on her and left. They hadn't been in contact since then. She probably thought that he would have wanted to see her if he was in the area, but she then found out that she was below basically everyone on his list of importance (that's the bit with his college friends and other randos in the panels leading up to the lizard one), which made her upset.

That doesn't excuse the throwing the drink on him, but it's not for as shallow a reason as you insinuated.

>>82760953
>Sorry, ruining a shirt is not worse than ruining another person's mood or hopes.
A lot of people would disagree. Unlike a physical object, a ruined mood doesn't STAY ruined. Besides, throwing your drink at someone communicates just as much contempt as any spoken insult would.

Park may have been acting like a twat, but Eve well and truly sank to his level, if not lower.

>>82760736
he's a bag of crap and so are you so who gives a fuck?

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>>82761106
Eve, for the most part. She threw a drink at him because he's the same old Park and she's the same old Eve and she's finally ready to call this bullshit off.

Eve's deluded and emotional, and Park's an asshole for pretending that his shirt or his dignity is worth more than Eve's emotions. Neither of them are presented as being "in the right" here, but keep in mind that the two have been trying to make up for eight years now, and it's finally over.

A spilled drink is peanuts compared to the emotional damage they've caused each other over all this time.

>>82755274
That's one pathetic defence mechanism.

>>82759277
So he has a life and she is a womanchild stuck in eternal adolescence, then she throws a drink at him.
She can laugh about his "old insults" but in the end of the day they'll still hurt her because she's a failure that nobody likes.

>>82760599
the other anon is right, you can say what you will bub Eve was acting like a child.

Putting blame on other people for her emotions and mistakes

>>82760953
> ruining a shirt is not worse than ruining another person's mood or hopes
Only poor people would say this.

>>82761452
>Park's an asshole for pretending that his shirt or his dignity is worth more than Eve's emotions.

What the actual fuck am I reading? How does that make him even slightly an asshole? She's a horrible bitch, fuck her emotions. Please fuck off back to tumblr and stay there. Holy shit.

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>>82755853

>>82760953
>Sorry, ruining a shirt is not worse than ruining another person's mood or hopes.
You're a fucking moron. And I'm in no way sorry for telling you that precisely like it is. A shirt and suit has actual value, "moods" and "hopes" are not real physical things and change constantly. You don't go get your mood dry-cleaned, you stupid fuck.

>>82761452
>Park's an asshole for pretending that his dignity is worth more than Eve's emotions.
Yes, a person's dignity is definitely more important. Anon, it appears you're in dire need of a safe space.

>>82761452
>Neither of them are presented as being "in the right" here

I hate this pussy ass defense, like authors are goung to show a situation that ends up with some character being humilliated while the lead character is just laughing at him as '' they are both right!''

>>82761679
>Yes, a person's dignity is definitely more important
Oh well, you get along fine without any.

>>82761571
They both have lives though. His is lived in his work, hers is lived with her friends. The one that "nobody likes" is Park, actually; if you read the comic you'd know that.

I think you might be missing what's being conveyed here and are just looking to stir the pot.

I don't know--or care--what the fuck this comic is, but just checking the thread to see what some of the replies are about...holy shit, are there people who actually would justify this type of behavior because, "EMOTIONS?"

I know people make the "hurr hurr, /co/ IS tumblr" jokes, but are these people actually among us now? You really think it's acceptable for someone to do something like that, let alone in a public space?

>>82760953
>ruining a shirt is not worse than ruining another person's mood or hopes.

are you a tumblr user?


''My actions should not be punished if emotions were the catalist!'' holy shit

>>82761579
Where do you see Eve putting the blame on others? In her act of throwing her drink? That was just an action, that was not her blaming Park for her emotions and her mistakes. Perhaps you should read more closely.

>>82761737
How could you do that!? You just insulted him! That could make him have negative emotions! You may as well have hogtied him and dunked him in a vat of hot oil for half an hour, you horrible person.

>>82761737
It's OK, anon. I accept that you conceded the argument.

>>82761760
Actually it looks like he gets invited to a million things every time he's in town and she has burned all bridges except with her worthless stoner roommate.

>>82761816
>mimi last word means I win
You got savaged.
Nothing you mumble will change that.

>>82761853
>mimi last word means I win
You mean like you're doing now?

>>82761771
>I know people make the "hurr hurr, /co/ IS tumblr" jokes

Those aren't jokes. /co/ is tumblr and has been for years. You are quite dopey to not realize it until just now.

>>82761691
If you read the comic up until this point and had the context outside of the four pages posted here you'd understand that neither of them are right.

Hell, I think you could even infer that if you started at the beginning of this chapter. This isn't the kind of comic where you can completely understand a situation by just reading one or two pages.

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Oh Great now we get daily generals for this tripe too

>>82761812
Don't worry! I'll make sure to throw him a drink. In no time he'll be defending me instead.

>>82760953
I only care about the hopes and moods of people who are important to me. That's a small group of people. Maintaining a relationship is hard work and fucking with someone's property because you feel bad is a shitty thing to do.

>>82761846
That's actually not the case. It looks like you don't read the comic. Eve has a pretty tight knit friend circle, the last chapter showed that. The point of the matter is that their lives are different, and (I would say that) neither is better than the other.

>>82761634
There's no edit that can do it justice, but really I'd like him to just put down his cash, chug his drink and then bond one-liner "Drinks are on me." before leaving.

>>82761879
No, dumbfuck. Because I knew you'd be unable to resist replying. You got BTFO, that's just how it is. Everything you say beyond this point is just you trying to save face like a bitch.
There's nothing further to add, so when you reply in a second with tears streaming down your face you better make it a good one, because you cant un-fuck yourself, and I'm done with you.

>>82761971
Who the fuck cares about this poorly drawn trash? Does the author give freebies behind the bike sheds or some shit?

>>82762047
> No, dumbfuck. Because I knew you'd be unable to resist replying.
You mean like you're doing now?

>>82761897
We only get generals when someone thinks they've found something that will "trigger /co/" (in other words, when something actually happens in Octopus Pie). Same shit happened with the party scenes from a couple of months back. It will pass - unless, of course, someone gets salty over that sentiment and tries to force it for a few weeks longer. The thread's not dead, but it's not the sprawling, post-a-minute thread that a "trigger" would cause.

>>82761066
I have a feeling this comic is just going to annoy the fuck out of me.

>>82762088
Clearly people care because they read it. Maybe if you read it you might understand why other people read it too. There's also a difference between stylistic choice and technical inability.

I don't understand why you appear to be so hostile, as if the existence of this comic (or a thread about it on the appropriate board) personally offends you or something to that effect. Perhaps you should look into ways of alleviating stress in your life. I wish you the best.

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>>82762173
It's so unfortunate, but maybe it's for the best. Actual discussion might not be possible when everyone seems to be looking for something to hate.

>>82761457
Is that what she's doing? Good god, how insufferable. I couldnt stomach the idea that someone could just be that pathetic so I (without knowing a thing about this comic) assumed there was more context to her reaction.

But I now get the feeling that he hit the nail on the head and she cant cope with that so she tries to shift the conversation on him being somehow wrong or out of touch or funny to her.

typical childish cunt behavior.

>>82762047
>one mildly witty retort with no real bearing on the discussion at hand
>btfo

okay buddo

>>82762234
>Maybe if you read
Nah, don't have time for garbage.
The fact that you care about it is just sad as fuck.

>>82761691
Completely unrelated to this thread but I hate this excuse too, some writers confuse ambiguity as maturity.

>>82762047
So you accuse anon of claiming to win the argument by having the last word.
Then you proceed to claim you won the argument by refusing to keep arguing?

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>>82761691
When someone starts talking like that, I can't help but conclude that they're illogically afraid of confrontation/resolution, to the point where they'd rather use this as their "go-to" scenario in order to keep everything cozy and safe for them.

Of course two people can both be wrong about shit, but there's usually going to be one who's a bit more wrong by a noticeable amount.

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>all this controversy over Eve's stupidity
Guys, come on, I think we can all agree that Eve is a qt and doesn't deserve to be treated like shit by her ex boyfriend, regardless of how big or small her lizard brain is.

>>82763155
>we can all agree that Eve is a qt

I don't get how people use this as a positive point when it comes to talk about a comic, series or title.

You can find atractive girls in about any form of media.

Cute/hot is the standard, you can also find some form of media with a cute girl that is not annoying as fuck.

>>82758760
The horse is the father, right?

>>82761452
>Park's an asshole for pretending that his shirt or his dignity is worth more than Eve's emotions
Well they are, seeing as literally all he did was mention a social event he thought Eve knew of, and then tried to talk of how busy he's been to excuse not calling earlier and to change the topic away from Gwen.

It's incomprehensible to me that people are actually trying to imply that Eve isn't 97% in the wrong here. I mean sure Park could have been a bit more tactful but that's absolutely not any sort of reason to get splashed with a drink holy fuck. Eve may be going through a lot but she's still a cunt for taking that out on other people like that. Just because you feel a bit lost and anxious and like you've fucked your life up, it does NOT give you the right to attack other people or mess with their property or take things out on them.

>>82761286
>I decided in my head that you should have developed into a new type of person during the years we weren't in contact
>instead, you remain pretty similar to who you were before
>how dare you not have morphed into my imaginary headcanon ideal on your own, I'll throw a public fit and ridicule you

Sooo what you're saying that Eve's reasons aren't shallow, she's just an obnoxious, caustic bitch?

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Eve and Park have a long history, and they used to be pretty similar at the beginning.

She got stuck at a dead-end job because of a fucked economy and has hipsters for friends, but she also learned to come out of her shell and be her weird self. Meanwhile, Park was an asshole in the past and remains an asshole in the present. You don't call up your ex-girlfriend for a quick fuck and insult her and expect everything to go perfect, like jesus man what were you expecting.

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>see comments are pretty much going "woo eve, you go girl" on the site
>maybe there's more objective discussion on /co/
>there's just a little difference between there and here
>mfw there's a clear majority of people who actually think Park is the only one in the wrong here

>>82766361
To be honest thete is nothing wrong with giving exes booty calls out of the blue when you're in town, as long as it's evident what's going on. No harm in suggesting or offering. Also he only insulted Eve after she'd gone all psycho bitch on him and splashed him with a drink in public for no legit reason, anyone would get upset at that.

If Eve is so fragile about him, it's SOLELY her responsibility to recognise that and say "no, sorry I'm busy", or at least turn down instant sex. She even had a medical reason to not fuck him. He's not a bad person for seeing if she might be up for a fuck. He has no idea how she's doing and seeing how she's supposedly an adult, it's fair to assume it's up to her to evaluate her emotional status and make her choices based on that.

I really loathe this attitude, that people can act like assholes because others didn't manage and control things for them to keep them from getting hurt as a result of their own retarded yet conscious choices. Like boo hoo I chose to fuck you against my better judgement and eagerly prepared for it before even meeting you but it's your fault now because I regret it you should have stopped me

>>82758760
>Dude barely has a social life

Because being a loser surrounded by losers is better?

He has a social life, but its not his first priority, I really thinkk that people that put so much thought into what strangers think are losers with nothing better to do

>>82766361
>You don't call up your ex-girlfriend for a quick fuck and insult her and expect everything to go perfect

she wanted the quick fuck, is her own fault for not acting like an adult about it

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>>82766361
Man, I hope Gran throws some more Olly in the mix for a while. These past two relationship story lines have been alright but I miss the ridiculous shenanigans of past strips.

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>>82768738
She didn’t want a quick fuck. She’s been agonizing for years whether she made the wrong choice in not following Park to Chicago. She took him messaging her and him saying that he missed her as a sign that maybe they could renew their relationship like they did years ago. Remember that they’ve broken up twice - the first time was because he was cheating on her, the second time because she didn’t move to Chicago with him.

The realization that she actually doesn’t matter to him as much as she thought what was caused the drink in his face - and rather than them talking about it, he decided to immediately go on the offensive and insult her with things that aren’t even relevant to her life anymore. He didn’t even ask her WHY she did that, he clearly had no concern for her.

In the end, what happened was for the best. They are so very incompatible and it’s better they not get together.

Why does who's in the wrong matter?

>>82761846
Park's invitations to various things are based on shallow pools of connection. He schedules people like he'd schedule appointments. He doesn't have friends, he just has people in his life that he juggles.

>>82763406
I think they meant she has a "cute" personality, which is to say likeable, maybe a bit naive.

>>82769176
"decided to immediately go on the offensive" wtf dude. NO ONE calmly discusses getting a surprise drink in the face in a public place out of the blue. Everyone would react with WHAT THE FUCK YOU CRAZY BITCH tier hostility, perhaps with the exception of oeople who intentionally try to provoke the other into lashing out.

I mean, imagine if it was you - you're in town, decide to check if an ex wants to see, they're very eager, you meet and fuck immediately, they're happy about it, you have drinks, everything's great, they get weird at the mention of your mutual friend marrying without them knowing, you sort of talk too much because you want to steer away from the clearly awkward topic, boom drink to the face.

Have you ever taken an actual drink to the face in public? You're telling me that you'd just go "you seem upset"? Because my immediate reaction would probably be screeching at the top of my lungs, possibly try to throw something back and then when the realisation would sink in to say the most scatching (?) thing I could think of, leave and cut contact

>>82769490
It's more that it suddenly revealed what Park has always thought. His opinions of Eve weren't suddenly changed on the spot. It makes you wonder why he bothered seeing her at all if he had such a contemptuous and judgmental opinion of her. Eve was suspicious that he didn't really give a fuck about her, and she was right.

Obviously it makes sense for Park to freak out, but he chose to belittle her in all kinds of petty ways rather than freak out at the situation itself.

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>>82769490
Pretty sure if I got hit in the face with a drink by someone I care about, I’d want to know why they did that. Even a “Jesus, what was that for?!” would suffice, instead of immediately grasping for insults about their personal life like I’m trying to desperately protect my ego or whatever. It’s even evident in the third panel that Eve was already regretting her rash decision until Park started tearing into her. Nobody throws a drink at anyone “for the lulz”, there tends to be a reason behind it. It might not be valid for Park, but he sure as hell won’t know about it because he chose to throw ad hominems at her instead.

>>82759472
>Throwing a drink in someone's face in the context is still childish to do.
That's why I was talking about the even larger context, of Eve and Park's relationships. You're stuck in that one moment like it's the only thing that matters.

>>82760736
>Throwing drinks on someone and possibly ruining their possibly very expensive clothes is a fucking shit thing to do.
"Very expensive clothes"? The fuck? You sound like you're trying to impress your fucking dad.

>>82768670
>Because being a loser surrounded by losers is better?
"Losers" by what metric? All of Eve's friends have good jobs or are straight up business owners.

>He has a social life
He has people to see. But that's all he does with them.

>>82769866
It’s almost like this person has Park’s memory of Eve’s friends. Marigold’s entire character development is even about moving past her “stoner life"

>>82769817
>Very expensive clothes"? The fuck? You sound like you're trying to impress your fucking dad
I don't understand, in what sense? People can spend a lot in their clothes and can also like their clothes a lot. It's a basic principle of "ruining the belongings of others because you're distraught about the bad choices you made is wrong"

>>82769866
No offense but that sounds pretentious. I'm sure the comic lays out what a superficial guy he is and how he has nothing but shallow relationships but to say:
>he has people but that's all he does with them
Sounds like a psuedo-intellectual trite indie film.

>>82770172
Well fucking excuse me for phrasing things a certain way, jesus.

>>82770132
If he can fucking buy expensive clothes and throw away $50 bills he can fucking use a fucking dry cleaners it's not the end of the god damn world.

>>82761971
sounds like typical faggot loser junkie talk she's worse off he has friends, a life and doesn't have the emotional capacity of a child

>>82770985
>doesn't have the emotional capacity of a child
Adults don't stoop to calling other people hipsters and insulting their choice of coffee. That's purely adolescent behavior.

>>82761452
you need to be 18 to browse this site

>>82757107
Why do people always forget Park acting like a asshole to Eve and her friends for wanting to have fun at that one block party.
"Eve these people are rubes!".
Park has his moments but he's kind of a egotistical shithead.

>>82772087

at this point that shit was years in the past.

>>82772229
clearly not, since he still has the exact same opinions as back then.

>>82769176
>She’s been agonizing for years whether she made the wrong choice in not following Park to Chicago

YEARS being the keyword here, she had the same mentality for years instead of grwing up and move on

>>82769710
>, I’d want to know why they did that.

that's beta boy talk right there, any sane person with self respect would get pissed

>>82772387

So what? He did some shit on the past, lets throw him a drink at his face like a fucking child and somehow he is the bad guy.

She is just playing being a victim just to be a bitch.

Basically hating on a guy because she had this story on her head about how things should be and he dared to not be what she wanted after YEARS of not seeing him.

>>82772467
>any reaction that's less than violent is beta
I'm sure you are a fantastic people person

>>82772577
>So what? He did some shit on the past
He was being a shitty person in the present.

>She is just playing being a victim just to be a bitch.
She's not playing anything, she's just laughing in his face. She just realized what a huge asshole Park is and reacted accordingly.

>>82772467
>>82772577
Okay look in the third panel.

Eve doesn't look good about what she did. She reacted on instinct and feels bad about it.

But then Park started talking, and basically revealed his hand. Park, through his anger, reveals basically everything about his mindset and what he has always been thinking the entire time. "I fucking knew it," he says. "I knew I'd find you exactly the way I left you"- despite the fact that Eve was the one who left him, he's just so self-centered he had to believe he was in control of the break up- showing how he had his mind made up about everything. And the insults really are old. He's had those thoughts for a long time.

By acting on instinct, Eve unearthed a side of Park that validated that instinct. Like when a dog fucking tears into someone's leg and it turns out they were about to rob your house or whatever.

>>82769710
>Pretty sure if I got hit in the face with a drink by someone I care about, I’d want to know why they did that.

You are a little bitch.

>he sure as hell won’t know about it because he chose to throw ad hominems at her instead.

Oh my god, you are a little bitch and a pretentious retard. Jesus christ.

>>82772781
>He was being a shitty person in the present.

how?

>>82772732

Pissed=violent.

Only a pussy would react with ''What did I do???'' because even when it conflict your go to answer is ''Is this my fault???''

>>82772781
>she's just laughing in his face

That's Mary Sue writing, trying to make look like your lead ''totally owned!!!!'' some person while in reality she is acting childish as hell.

>>82773291
You fuck a girl and then not less than an hour later casually reveal just how little you've been thinking of her and people in general like it's no big deal. That's pretty fucking shitty.

I mean fuck one of your best friends get married and all you can say about it is, "Whatever it's best you didn't go it was just a hassle" like what the fuck, does this guy care about anyone.

>>82773370
>That's Mary Sue writing,
No it's not.

>trying to make look like your lead ''totally owned!!!!'' some person while in reality she is acting childish as hell.
This is something that happened after literal years of development and ruminating on Eve's flaws, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>82773047
>"I knew I'd find you exactly the way I left you"

After she throwed him a drink because he did stuff that she didn't agree on?

He is on the right.

Again, your excusing childish behavior with stuff like ''years ago, he did and say this! And she had feelings and she was thinking about him for years!''

Any SANE person would have treated the situation differently, I used to this this girl for 2 years, she would come over to my house to sleep and all that shit like every week.

We broke up and years later I can't really say that I know her or that she is my friend because we haven't been talking for years, because of that it would be childish as fuck to have expectations about her on any level

>>82761634
brutal

>>82773500
Why are you responding to a post without reading the whole thing. You don't address anything that's in it.

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>>82761084
I can think of one that isn't.

>>82773394

She is not part of his life anymore and they haven't been in contact, how is shitty of him not thinking about her?

And again, she dind't have to jump into his pants the moment she saw him again.

If anything is what I just said, she was being an inmature shit head for years and now the blame is all on him

>>82772781
>He was being a shitty person in the present.
>Switches the topic after he notices that she got upset about not being invited to a wedding
And don't give me the whole "she mad because she's not a priority". She clearly wasn't listening to him in the 5th and 6th panels. She was off in her own world wondering where it went wrong and took it out on him.

>people who haven't read the comic and don't understand any of the characters take one page out of context and start complaining that the male character is made to look bad

>hastily jump to defend him based on nothing but his gender and the fact that throwing a drink on someone is rude

This is next-level insecurity.

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>>82773253
...so this guy is defending Park because he is a Park?

>>82773437
>>82773437
>ruminating on Eve's flaws

Implying that the autor didn't portrayed the whole scene as Eve being on the right.


I used to read this shit and I know that the autor seems to think that being self centered is ok basically.

''Hey I just met this guy on a hotel at the mountains, we had sex! Also a friend of mine was having some first world proplems! I really hope that I get some well deserved support from my one night stand!!''

And guess who ended up being the asshole

>>82773530

I don't agree with anything of that.

I just see two persons that haven't been talking for YEARS and a lot of reading between lines in how is ok to be an ass to one of those persons.

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>>82773637
People don't know you're a park on the internet.

>>82773714
>Implying that the autor didn't portrayed the whole scene as Eve being on the right.
No, I'm outright saying that the entire comic preceding this one fucking page has been about Eve's flaws and if you seriously don't know that then you're just some shitposter who saw a comic page where a girl got an upperhand at a boy and decided everyone just fucking NEEDS to hear your opinion on that scenario.

>>82773637

He is not defending him, is the idea of somebody throwing a drink all over you without a good reason that if you get pissed about it you are on the wrong.

That a sane person would react ''what did you do that for??Was it me??'' instead of seeing that as being the biggest pussy alive, like you would rightfully be called

>>82773753
I have a strong suspicion you're the kind of person described in >>82773829.

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>>82773579
>She is not part of his life anymore and they haven't been in contact, how is shitty of him not thinking about her?
Then maybe he shouldn't have had sex with her less than an hour before revealing he doesn't give a fuck about her.

>>82773829
>entire comic preceding this one fucking page has been about Eve's flaws

not true.

Its some generic shit about growing up and first world problems.

''Friend who boned once! Lol, hispter beard guy doesn't know what social media is!''

fucking hipster bullshit.

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>>82773958
Okay well, thanks for revealing that the only thing you know about this comic is what you read secondhand in these recent threads based on the past couple of pages.

>>82773955
>Then maybe he shouldn't have had sex with her

She also wanted it, its also her fault for jumping on the dick at her first chance

>>82774016
>She also wanted it
Yeah, because she wanted to care about him. She desired a relationship with him.

We're talking about the guy whose lack of care you're defending. Completely different individual.

>>82773500
I feel like you're projecting your past relationship onto a character with a story that we've been following for a while. I don't know why you're so keyed up either, if you haven't been following the story and understand the emotional stakes and release that these past few pages have been providing for an arc that's literally been going on for years.

I mean, this is kind of Octopus Pie's MO with big character confrontations. No one is ever 100% right, no one keeps their cool and walks off with a "sick alpha one-liner". The characters do grow from these confrontations though, they unearth resentments and what they actually value. Just like in Mer and Hannah's fight, Hannah exposed how much she felt burdened by Mer's needs, but also how much she felt like she needs to be in a micromanaging role for the friendship. It wasn't pretty and both characters ended up looking kind of shitty (Hannah more than Mer), but it provided a source of change and growth after a time. Point is, this shit was a long time coming and realistically couldn't end any other way given what we know about these characters.

>>82773999

Whatever man, I read the shit out of this comic years ago.

And even if I didn't you don't have to be a genious to understand these last like 3 pages to see that Eve is acting like a fucking child to an ex that she hasn't spooke for YEARS.

Have you been in a fucking relationship?

>>82774090
>because she wanted to care about him. She desired a relationship with him.

That's her problem, not his.

Its like they broke up years ago for some reason and somehow she expected things to be better ?

>>82774168
If you haven't read the comics in so long and don't really understand what's going on, why are you so invested in arguing about which character is "good" or "bad"?

>>82774165
>No one is ever 100% right

That's what shit writters do, its like talking about politics without taking a stance because people would be offended. What's the point then?

And no, I'm not projecting anything on those characters, is just common sense.

You stop seeing and talking to a person for years without expecting that person to be different is childish as fuck.

Just from highschool to college and then from college to having a job changes people a lot, to the point that they become different people.

So that's why is childish as hell for Eve to expect that his ex being all over her after years without talking to each other.

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>>82773253

>>82755539
Are we talking popcorn kernals or just caramel levels of food?

>>82755274
Damn this page was conflicting, I don't know who to hate more.

>>82774266

Because I hate this bullshit of ''but muf feelings!!!'' as an excuse for being a shithead and I know that the comic is popular and so is the girl author.

So of course I have to stan out against bullshit like that as a future webcomic shit heaf autor myself.

And I know the comic, is not that deep either to say that ''this is the culmination of years and years of character development!''

If anything it reads like the same thing from years ago, only difference being that the characters are doing different shit while acting the same.

Even the artwork looks the same.

>>82774432
Shut the fuck up, DEWD.

>>82774410

I don't know what I hate more, the throwing a drink at the guy while being praised by the fanbase.

or the whole ''now I'm laughing at you!! HAHAHA! I won!!!''

It reminds me about movies in which you see the same shit, an EVIL smart character is talking his ass off about a subject just to have the lead say some bullshit and suddenly Evil smart character is speechless and totally owned you guys!

>>82774532

Fuck off, I'm not like that douche saying ''superior comic book artsits coming throught!!''

If anything I would avoid relationship drama bullshit on my stuff.

>>82774535
>I'm laughing at you so that means I came out stronger.
That always does come forced, in fiction as well in real life. You can't act this shit is beneath you when like a second go you were throwing drinks in people's faces. If you gonna throw a drink in someone's face, just do it and leave because the drink in the face is like the peak fuck you, you can't top it.

>>82774350
>It's shitty to have complex characters who have variable motives and perform questionable acts because they're human.

I gotcha. Maybe you should read something a little more your speed then?

This is like the third time Eve's gone back into a relationship she knows won't work. I can't tell if Meredith forgot what character development is or if Eve's just meant to be an impulsive dumby who just wants someone inside her every night and refuses to learn.

>>82774839
Eve went from a cynical retard to a hippy retard.

>>82774772
>>It's shitty to have complex characters

Octopus Pie doesn't have complex characters.

>Maybe you should read something a little more your speed then?

Yes, something actually good. Good is my speed. And weed.

>>82774772
>complex characters with variable motivations
I love those but they rarely show up in SOL webcomics.

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>>82755274
So this comic looks like the author creating a scenario where they 'won' in a situation where they clearly got their ass reamed IRL.

I can picture millennials who are too lazy and squandered every opportunity in their lives siding with the girl.

>>82775031
>millennials

How old are you, Anon?

>>82774839
>2
>>82774933

You guys don't get it, its empowering for women to fuck up relationships and being fuck ups in general... or something...

As long as everybody smiles and the arc ends with a scene of a radio playing a song which lyrics can be applied to the situation.

I never would have guessed that a webcomic would do the ''generic musical montage'', but they found a way...

>>82775068
When did OP done a musical montage? (besides the intentionally over-the-top scene with Hanna singing)

>>82774839
>This is like the third time Eve's gone back into a relationship she knows won't work.

Sounds like a pretty realistic average person in their mid 20s then.

>>82759277
I thought there was going to be some actual justifaction for her throwing her drink, but nope,

she's a fucking petty womanchild. Wow. People actually like her as a character? What is with webcomic authors making these horrendously unlikable "supposed to be likeable" characters?

>>82775122

I have seen a couple of arcs that end with a forced scene of the characters doing something and the radio playing a popular song like trying to say ''this is how the characters are feeling!!''

>>82775207
What was her name anon?

>>82775207
>Sounds like a pretty realistic average person in their mid 20s then.

Not really, teenagers are the ones that are fuck ups about it.

20 somethings already know a thing or two about relationships and expectations.

Unless the whole point of the comic is that Eve is a manchild near her 30s

>>82773632
Well what would you expect from someone who has read just that page you dumb fuck?
Also he is supposed to be "bad" at least by the mc's point of view thus yes, he is literally made to look bad

>>82775207
For a work of fiction, that kind of repetition belongs off screen, especially when it's not gonna be self aware about it.

>>82771036
That was just a by product of her not growing up and still being in the same place that she was emotionally and maturity when they first broke up.

>>82775278
I think writers try ttheir hand at writing asshole characters that the audience is expected to enjoy after seeing characters like Daffy Duck, Scott Pilgrim, and the main cast of Seinfeld

>>82775451

I don't even understand what is this comic really about?

People with problems that are not really a big deal unless you are a drama queen?

I'm just starting to get pissed at comics about people that have their own house/apartment, lots of friends, a healthy sex life, steady job and yet they act and feel like their lives are worthless.

Literally first world problems '' I don't have real problems in my life so I'm going to bitch about not being PERFECT!! I mean, I have everything else but I don't have perfection! Might as well kill myself!''

Why would I give a shit about their dating lives?

Because lets face it, most of these shitty webcomics focus on dating

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>>82775591
I wouldn't be surprised. They're trying so hard to make a cool slacker type, but screw up and make an insufferable twat instead.

>>82761286
What everyone should be taking away is that neither Park nor Eve have developed at all. Park is still the manipulative ass he always was and deludes himself into thinking hes a good person because he -graciously- exerts the most miniscule effort into being personable, and Eve is just this emotionally, mentally stagnant child that expects the people around her to be mind readers and understand her needs and wants and when they don't, she decides that they're unworthy of her friendship even though she doesn't offer much to friendships anyway besides caustic, judgmental bullshit.

They're both awful. You shouldn't be rooting for really anyone in these pages. That being said, the author probably reads these threads, and I bet all she takes away from them is "hurr durr 4chan sure hates women durr" and wonders why that is when she writes the majority of her female characters to be, well, like Eve.

>>82775591
>Scott Pilgrim

Geeeee, talking about failing!

Literally the only people that like Scott as a character are manchildren that think that SPvs the World is ''lol, a comic with video game references!''

>>82775673

was this comic made with ''Blaster Nation'' in mind?

>>82775701

Park seems to be the superior here.

He probably just didn't care much about HER, that's all.

I mean, yes he is a judgemental douche and celf centered but he was his feet on the ground about important stuff and he is moving on with his life.

Eve is just acting like a child while having nothing to show for it.

>>82775809
Pretty much all slice of life webcomics lately, really.

>>82775901

Can you tell me about popular webcomics that do this shit?

I know that Dumbing of Age by Wet Willy and Questionable Content fall in that category

>>82775877
No, Park is objectively an asshole. He's the type of person obsessed with success and how he is perceived by his peers IE he's basically a classist douchebag who only values people based on whatever arbitrary definition of success he has for the moment.

Eve is just stunted, and openly hostile to people who (stupidly) want to help her out of the rut her life is in. She's also stupendously ungrateful, pious, and blames other people for her shortcomings in life, even though Meridith is desperately trying to write it so Eve is really just a woman who is the tragic victim of her own broken psyche.

>>82775031
Maybe you and I read two different strips, because to me neither of those two characters seem to have 'won' that scene.

>>82776232

That sound elitist as fuck, sure some of his traits are negative but at least he has a sense of personal success that you have to strive for.

While Eve is just there, waiting for the next scenario in which she feels like a victim

>>82755274
>he still pays

>>82761979
Oh god, you think that´s better?

>>82776661

That sounds like a more realistic scenario.

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So is this Octopus Pie's equivalent to Loss?

>>82755274
What's pretentious ass.

>>82780035
Not even close.

>>82780035

What is that?

If Loss is about hispters with fake problems ''My dating life sucks despite getting laid quite often!'' then yes

>>82774390
An entire butterfinger

>>82773866
I have a strong suspicion that everyone defending Eve in this thread is a worthless borderline-tranny SJW piece of trash. I sincerely hope you all die.

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>>82781952

>Not knowing what Loss is

It's this, in case you were wondering.

What I'm getting out of this thread is that SJWs don't think throwing drinks is a big deal and if I ever encounter one in real life I should throw a drink in their face.

>>82755274
Breaking news, Eve disappointed in finding another soulless high-class suit, still lives in new york.

>>82781952
>What is that?
People who don't lurk shouldn't post.

>>82783075
I thought SJWs were meant to be the spergs that make a scene in public, rather than be the ones with enough self-control to communicate and find out why the drink was thrown.

thing about old insults is, if you're stuck in a state of arrested development, constantly stagnant, they're still just as valid.

she's a child who hasn't grown at all and he's valid in telling her off for that.

besides, its new york, there are way better things to do when visiting that city than spend a night with some ex of yours. can't blame him for spending a couple of days trying to fit it all in.

>>82775701
Hard to blame her when you get garbage like >>82782987

People have been stressing about Eve not being in the right despite also having issues with Park, but any minor defense of a woman is akin to SJW tumbliranism around here. It’s pretty embarrassing. >>82773632 hit the nail on the head when it comes to your typical /co/ webcomic discussion.

>>82757547
She has nice thick asian titties, though.

I enjoyed reading this a long time ago, but stop giving a hoot when the lesbian/not lesbian had her relationship crisis. The problems and life these characters have seem so.....out of my line of comprehension. Almost alien-like.

>>82759204
>Hopefully Eve can move on now

I'm pretty sure I have read this line dozens of times in every Octopus Pie thread I read.

>>82766361
>>82768610
So the lesson to be learnt is: "Don't fuck immature cunts/assholes, they're a ticking time bomb"

>>82769297
most people on /co/ can't consume media unless they can fully and unequivocally place the blame on a party when a conflict is presented

hell, even with something as simple as tom & jerry discussion here always revolves around who's the bigger asshole

i blame capeshit

>>82774535
For me it's the fanbase reaxtion. Eve throwing the drink is a nice narrative twist; I like that Gran dares to nake flawed characters, but it's unsettling how people are 100% trying to justify Eve's bullshit and act as if she was only slightly in the wrong if at all, because she's got

>>82774090
Park's lack of care for an ex who left him and hasn't contacted him in literally years?

If Eve had such hopes for him, maybe she could have, you know, stayed in touch over the years, see how he's doing and who he's becoming. But she just nurtured the daydream illusion and then got angry at Park for not having become her AU headcanon Park during the years of zero contact

>>82773955
>Park should have refused sex and prevented Eve from making choices she'll regret, even though they haven't been in touch for years he should have just decided she's not fit to make her own choices and should have managed her life for her

There is zero reason why he shouldn't have had sex with Eve. People have casual sex all the time. He was in town, decided to make a booty call to an ex, ex was willing and eager, sex happened, that's grand. I mean they didn't even manage to undress properly, so it's likely Eva was very willing to fuck, might have suggested it, do saying that Park should have turned down sex from an eager ex he kinda misses because he should have telepatchically known she'll regret the choice she seems to want is bullshit.

It's Eve who's mentally not fit for the sex, and she's an adult and it's her life and her hopes and emotions, her free choice and also her responsibility. She's the one who knows how she's feeling, she's responsible for her actions

>>82757340
>if you're working dead end retail picking up and getting a new job on the other side of the country ain't an easy prospect.

Actually it is provided there are dead end retail jobs where you are going.

>>82782083
That does sound uncomfortable

>>82768670

The horrible thing is that you can work hard and have a great social life, you just have to want to actually do it.

He's very selfish and inconsiderate. He hanged with losers because he liked looking down on them. In truth he probably doesn't have any friends and the weed smoking hipster girl is the best he's ever had.

>>82755274
I met Meridith Gran at a comic convention before. She got some huge ass titties.

>>82755274

I think this is to show that he doesn't actually know what goes on in her life.

>>82761634
Yeah, work way better.
But then everyone's favorite character doesn't win.

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>Park was did nothing wrong and was 100% in the right in this page even if his insults came off as tired
>Eve is laughing because she's out of her mind and is clearly distraught in the last couple panels
>look at the comments on the site
>WOW PARK BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>HE DESERVED IT THAT FUCKING SHITLORD CREEP
>GO EVE! SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE'S IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION NOW!

It's amazing how an entire fanbase can read a comic and not understand it.

>>82786127
Best post of the thread.

>>82786721
this is moronic.

>>82786721
I dont get it.
Does she WANT to fuck men instead of getting married?

>>82786208
No shit? They've not talked in YEARS. Anons in this thread for example were saying that he can't call Hanna a stoner because she's not one any more - but Park DOESN'T KNOW that because there's been no contact for years. His insults being old just underlines what a fucking idiot Eve's been, holding on to years-old what ifs, because they're not the people they were and don't really know each other any more, they know the memories of what they were years ago. And Eve's been clinging to the past, but life around her has gone on

>>82786721
Yougogirl.mp4

>>82786721
What's the source on that?
Also don't try to understand women. They don't understand themselves

>>82786905
But that's the thing, though.

His main accusation is that "she hasn't changed" and he make all those allegations on thin air and his own assumptions.

It's one thing to not know that she hasn't changed, it's an other one to accuse her to have not changed without at least making a little bit of checking beforehand and making this whole assumption on a glass being thrown at him.

The very least he could have done was asking what the fuck was that for.

>>82786721

I don't understand this. I don't get what the filmmakers were going for.

Don't want to get married? then fucking don't. There are plenty of guys that would love a chick like that.

Feel bad after fucking random dudes without getting to know them? Then don't fuck random dudes.

Her problems are all direct consequences of her own actions. Every single guy, every single one in this video gives exactly what she asks for without the least resistance.

>>82786835
yeah, she wants to enjoy the good life but guys keep trying to make her settle down

>>82787048
It's actually a movie against the social pressure of getting married. Men doesn't represent men, but your family, friends, your parents and sibling, all expecting you and pressurising you to marry ad how she almost keep falling for it.

>>82786976
and men do?

Is Hanna still broken up from Marek?

I need my comicfu to become pure again.

>>82787140
kinda

she's doing better now

>>82787007
>he make all those allegations on thin air and his own assumptions
Well but at the same time Eve threw a drink at him because she made all these assumptions and expectations based on nothing, acting on them in form of sex without checking anything about his thoughts or opinions or goals or who he is now. Park, at least, only got upset when it was shown to him that Eve is unstable and crazy, he was attacked first, but Eve got upset to point of physical escalation just because the assumptions she'd made weren't correct.

It's just such total bullshit to claim that somehow it's Park who should have taken responsibility and controlled the situation as if he'd owe anything to Eve. Neither of them realky bothered to stay in touch, neither of them knows or even cares who the other actually is now, both of them think mainly of their own needs and only saw the other as a construction they'd built up in their head that didn't correlate with reality.

Both of them knew it was a booty call and wanted to fuck.
The difference is that Eve knew it was harmful for her and did it anyway, and that Eve reacted with physical aggression when merely confronted with the fact that her headcanon =/= reality, whereas Park reacted to the same thing + getting a drink to the face with just some words and leaving (and even paying).
They're both self-centered assholes here but Eve is the one being aggressive about it. It's surprising to me how many are genuinely arguing that Park should have done thus and that for an ex he hasn't been in touch with for years and who suddenly attacks him in public like this out of the blue for not having contacted her earlier

>>82787140
Yes, they're still separated. They met up with each other to hang for a little bit recently, but nothing came of it as far as we know.

Hanna isn't a mess anymore, at least. She and Will started a business together and they're doing well with it.

>>82763155
How is someone telling you about their life being "treated like shit"?

>>82786550
Thanks. I think she was fucking the guy who makes that stupid pixel art hipster robot comic thing or something? Or they had just like broken up and it was awkward or something? IDK was years ago, but I still wish I motorboated those thangs.

>>82787324
It is when you're a crybaby.

>>82787224
>It's just such total bullshit to claim that somehow it's Park who should have taken responsibility and controlled the situation as if he'd owe anything to Eve
No, anon, you see - he's a man, which means he has greater emotional control. He has a responsibility to act in a mature fashion when the women around him are succumbing to selfish fits of hysteria, because they can't help it. It's coded into their biology.

>>82760953
>And Park had the gall to say Eve was pretentious? Sorry, ruining a shirt is not worse than ruining another person's mood or hopes.
I can only you're a rich dumbass who's never had to deal with money, since I'd rather have a shitty day than get one of my few nice shirts ruined by a psycho ex.

>>82787224
>Well but at the same time Eve threw a drink at him because she made all these assumptions and expectations based on nothing
Not really. she threw her glass at him because he was there for a while and only considered visiting her as a second thought for a fuck plan. She is not assuming anything, he is literally saying it. So, no.

>whereas Park reacted to the same thing + getting a drink to the face with just some words and leaving (and even paying).
Like I said before, the normal reaction would have been to as what the fuck was that for. Instead, he goes directly to some tangent accusations that barely make sense in the context he express them. Bit of an interpretation of my part, but those attack on her person rather than her drink throwing action seems to indicate that he actually has an idea of what went wrong and prefer to insult her on very trivial one has really no reason to complain about rather than admit it. I think I would have acted very similarly to Park, except that calling her name, I would have actually enquired what was the throwing glass for. the fact that Park Doesn't seems to indicate he actually know whay.

Honestly, those insults really seems to come out of nowhere and barely adress tha actual current situation.

>>82787324
he was just soap boxing and only invited her so she would agree with him

>>82769176
>rather than them talking about it, he decided to immediately go on the offensive
She threw
a drink
in his face

>>82787575
Not the anojn you answered to but see >>82787550
>. I think I would have acted very similarly to Park, except that calling her name, I would have actually enquired what was the throwing glass for. the fact that Park Doesn't seems to indicate he actually know whay.

>>82773637
Anon, you're the one with problems.

If you react to physical assault with "oh no, did I do something to upset you" instead of "hey fuck you", then you probably have self-esteem issues.

>>82787600
see>>82787550

>>82769176
Well, if he was the one who threw a drink on her face, would you expect her to stay calm and talk this out?
Step out of your white horse man, he's a shitter but she's still a massive dellusional bitch.

>>82787614
>Well, if he was the one who threw a drink on her face, would you expect her to stay calm and talk this out?
I would expect her ask what was that for.

>>82773955
>Then maybe he shouldn't have had sex with her less than an hour before revealing he doesn't give a fuck about her.
Eve's life choices are not Park's responsibility.

Is he an asshole? Yes. Has she had years to know that? Yes.

He made a booty call before leaving town, she consented, they had a chat the next day and she got mad because of a tangle of expectations that he had no responsibility for and no part in creating.

>>82787631
So, basically, it's okay to mislead someone for a fuck plan and if your partner fall for it it's their own fault. An angry reaction to having been mislead is out of place and uncalled for.

>>82787667
>it's okay to mislead someone
No one was misled. They only had false expectations.

>>82787550
>he was there for a while and only considered visiting her as a second thought for a fuck plan
That is in absolutely no way a justification for throwing a drink on anyone holy shit. People are allowed to choose who they spend their time with. People are allowed to change their minds and not hold their exes from years ago as priorities no. 1. People can cut contact or grow distant or choose to not hang out not answer your texts. All you can do is maybe realise that the relation between you isn't what you thought, and maybe tell them off verbally if they were rude, and choose not to interact with people who don't value you.

But you do NOT get to attack others or ruin their property because they don't wanna hang as much as you'd want to hang with them. How the fuck are you trying to defend that, jesus. If you have a friend you really like and find out that you're growing distant,do you think you have the right to go and key their car for having gone to the movies without telling you? Even if you haven't spoken in weeks, but see in your head you'd envisioned seeing it with them, and they ruined it?

And also the "normal" reaction is not to "ask what that was for". They're not dating. They haven't seen in YEARS. They're distant exes catching up. You're acting as if Park is Eve's steady bf living with her who'd know and care about her. But they've had zero contact for years, because neither bothered.

>>82787704
Personal interpretation of the story so far here: I was ready to give the benefit of the doubt to Park, but as I have pointed out already>>82787550
>>82787597
his lack of enquiring and attack on unrelated matter to what was going on seems to indicate that Park knew perfectly what was going on and winged with it anyway.

>>82787727
see>>82787667 and>>82787740
>And also the "normal" reaction is not to "ask what that was for".
Yes it is. Everything seems to be going normal, suddenly you get splashed. Whether or not you are dating, unless you know the reason for it, asking what it is for IS the normal reaction. Park not enquiring and making unrelated insult to the matter is the weird reaction.

>>82787727
>And also the "normal" reaction is not to "ask what that was for".
It kinda is. Dating or not, that's what most would do. And most would certainly not make insult that have nothing to do with splashing in the first place.

That they are dating or not has nothing to do with such reaction to this situation.

>>82787667
No one misled anyone. Eve knew Park is leaving the next day. She knew Park only called her when he was already in town and leabin the next day or right after. After no contact for years, he's like what's up I'm actually in NY right now and leaving the morning after tomorrow but just wanted to see how are you and maybe get "lunch or whatever". Hanna even tells Eve off for taking "lunch or whatever" with an ex that seriously. And whoop they have sex IMMEDIATELY even though Eve had doctor's orders for no intercourse.

Park didn't promise her anything. He only told her he'd missed her after they'd fucked. Eve built up all her false hopes and made her rash choices on her own, with open eyes.

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>>82787806
>Eve knew Park is leaving the next day.
Okay, at which point was that established, because, all we got was

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>>82787766
I'm not sure that it's unrelated, but more something he's been bottling up for a while, something that always bothered him about her, and in his mind he sees crazy behaviour as a result of Eve drifting aimlessly with her friends "as he left her". He probably saw the choices Eve made as insane or delusional, and the fact that she's still pulling insane stunts shows (in his mind) that she's still stuck in the same place. He wants to move on ob life, Eve wanted to drift, and he saw that as insanity comparable to throwing drinks on people.

Park sees Eve as a bit of a crazy bitch, so much that her throwing a drink on him isn't surprising enough to ask what it was for, just confirms his view of her. Dunno why he called her, maybe he did miss parts of her and wanted to see if she'd changed or if she'd still be stuck making awful (in his view) choices.

>>82787885
(cont)
We don't even know if he told her he was leaving before or after sex and it seems clear he only told her he has been in NY for quite a long time during that drink, making it clear he only called her for a sex plan just before leaving.

This is even in contradiction to what he said >>82787907
there about having missed her.

>>82787895
"visiting out of the blue"
>>82787900
Hotel bill already paid and rushing to bed because it's the only day they have together
>>82787915
"It's a shame you're here so little time" with no surprise or shock at all.

She knew he was only around for a very short time as she was preparing for the "lunch or whatever". She's also probably texting him about the details while at the obgyn. If she hadn't known there'd be more of a reaction. She knew he wasn't staying when they met up, just didn't know he'd arrived some time ago - but after several years, it's none of her business

>>82787987
>"visiting out of the blue"
Visiting out of the blue doesn't mean she know how long he has been there
>"It's a shame you're here so little time" with no surprise or shock at all.
Like I said, we don't know if she said it before or after sex.

>She knew he was only around for a very short time as she was preparing for the "lunch or whatever".
Well, that's the whole gist of it, isn't it? She "knew" he was there for a really short time, but then she suddenly get to know that she "knew" wrong. That he was there for the whole duration of a marriage rehearsal and Marriage (i.e. several weeks) and has only called her at the last moment for a quick sex plan before going away.

that's the whole issue. he was there the whole time and only contacted her at the last moment, just for sex. PArt of her anger stem from Park having mislead her in thinking their quick encounter was due to cicusmtances rather than his own choice.

>>82788090
>several weeks

Anon, it was probably a week or two at most. Nobody gets to have that much time off from what they're doing to just stand around and watch a wedding be planned.

>>82788132
Two weeks is plenty of times.

>>82788145
Two weeks is not "several," please learn the definitions of words before using them.

Also, based on what Park has said, we only know of "last weekend" to put any frame of time into perspective, so he could have only been in town a week. A week is a very short amount of time, and Eve shouldn't be upset that he didn't contact her while he was there. He didn't have to, she's not his responsibility. If he suddenly decided "Maybe I'd like to see Eve" on his second to last day in down, that's 100% okay. Eve seems to have expected him to call her the second he set foot in town even though he wasn't there to visit her, and that's nuts.

Eve was wrong here, no matter how you look at it. Sure, Park may become wrong the second he launches into a tirade about her life, but he wasn't doing anything rude or out of place until Eve threw her drink in his face. She snapped for no goddamned reason, and everyone's treating her like a hero for it.

>>82788145
two weeks is almost nothing bro.

plus lets be honest, contacting his ex is a big decision for the dude. he probably didn't even think about doing that until after the wedding(heck he might have even thought he'd run into her at the wedding).

the fact that its last minutes does not mean he's an ass who wanted a quickie, it means he finally got around to it at the last minute, and she ruined that.

>>82788216
>Two weeks is not "several,"
Yes it is. Also, it's beside the argument.

>A week is a very short amount of time
A whole vacation journey can be planed for a week. And even then he still called her on the last day.

>Eve shouldn't be upset that he didn't contact her while he was there.
She is upset he only considered her a second thought, only reached her for a sex plan and that the time limitation was actually of his own choice.

>He didn't have to, she's not his responsibility
I don't think "not treating people like disposable things" is about responsibility.

>that's 100% okay.
Depend of the nature of the relationship you were with. and Park and Eve was quite serious before they broke up. If you are talking about responsibility, then it was Park's responsibility to not revive this kind of old flame so lightly. It's her ex-girlfriend. not some fuckbuddies he is recontacting for the occasion, you don't treat the two the same way.

> Eve seems to have expected him to call her the second he set foot in town even though he wasn't there to visit her, and that's nuts.
As Park contacted her for a dating plan, yes, it actually make sense she assumed he contacted her early on as he arrived in NY.

> but he wasn't doing anything rude or out of place
He was treating a former ex-girlfriend with which he had got a serious story like a simple sex plan that could just be thrown casually at the last minute. It was a lack of respect for her AND their past relationship.

>>82788322
>the fact that its last minutes does not mean he's an ass who wanted a quickie, it means he finally got around to it at the last minute, and she ruined that.
Seeing how casually he considered that wedding (also the "you weren't invited" is really weird. You were there, dude, of course you know she wasn't invited).

>it means he finally got around to it at the last minute, and she ruined that.
If finally getting back was an hard time decision that took him to see the ceremony to finally resolve himself, I don't think a throwing glass is what would have ruined that.

>>82788429
he said "I uh I thought you knew"

keep in mind this is the age of social media, her not knowing is quite shocking. Her not showing up might not be, people turn down wedding invites all the time for whatever excuse they want to fart out at the last second.

And you're really not giving him any credit as far as the emotional weight of contacting an ex goes, especially a big one. dude took the first step, thats rough, its hard, and she threw a drink in his face out of no-where, that hurts.

I mean come on, I've been where he's been, moved cities for work and left people behind. I'm lucky, I maintained a lot of those relationships and friendships but there are some people who I didn't end well with. I'm not the type of guy to call up out of the blue and reconcile but you have to give kudos to the type of guy who's willing to put himself out there like that, even if theres a delay. if he was in town for 10 days and this is day 8, it's entirely reasonable to take that much time to consider whether this was a good idea or not. Just because Eve is the protagonist and we know what she's been through to get to this point doesn't mean park has been having a stroll and just though "Fuck it, me want sex"

>>82788376
The literal definition of "several," is "more than two, but not many."

Also, you're fucking insane. Your whiteknighting of Eve here is absolutely unbelievable. Eve goes and gets the pill because her ex is coming to town and you get mad at HIM for "using" her for sex? Jesus christ, you're ridiculous.

As far as Park deciding not to contact her until the last minute "depending on the status of their relationship," as you put it, Eve had the guy as "NOPE" in her phone. It's safe to say he was justified in not contacting her, because she obviously didn't want him to until it gave her a glimmer of hope that she could get back to something familiar for a quick minute.

Also, Meredith used the lizard brain panel to illustrate something, which everyone seems to be glossing over: that Eve was having an extreme irrational knee-jerk reaction. And yet all of you sit her and continue to applaud her like she weighed all of this out and did it to preserve her own honor.

>>82788652
>Also, you're fucking insane. Your whiteknighting of Eve here is absolutely unbelievable. Eve goes and gets the pill because her ex is coming to town and you get mad at HIM for "using" her for sex?
Not what I said and you know it.

Never made use of the word "used" nor was it part of what I was explaining.

Like I have explained, he treated her ex as if she was just a sex-buddy instead of someone with which he had got a real relationship.

>It's safe to say he was justified in not contacting her
He would haven if he hadn't contacted her. yet he did. Like I havse said, the issue lie with contacting her at the last minute as if it was something that could be glossed over.

>Also, Meredith used the lizard brain panel to illustrate something
I am not ignoring it and it's clear it's a reaction motivated by raw anger. No one is denying it and the discussion is about whether or not that anger is called for.

>>82788639
>dude took the first step, thats rough, its hard
Uuuh? I don't think taking the first step for a sex-plan can really be hard, unless you are inexperienced in it.

> but you have to give kudos to the type of guy who's willing to put himself out there like that,
That's kind of the point though. This isn't what he wanted. He wanted a sex plan he could easily bail out because "gotta go back to Chicago tomorrow".

>if he was in town for 10 days and this is day 8, it's entirely reasonable to take that much time to consider whether this was a good idea or not. Just because Eve is the protagonist and we know what she's been through to get to this point doesn't mean park has been having a stroll and just though "Fuck it, me want sex"
Once again, this isn't something throwing a glass at him would have ruined. If anything he would have been able to relate this was as much hard on her than it was on him. instead, he goes full defensive and goes the fox "those were too green anyway" way.

>>82788727
>Not what I said and you know it.
>Never made use of the word "used" nor was it part of what I was explaining.
>Like I have explained, he treated her ex as if she was just a sex-buddy instead of someone with which he had got a real relationship.

>gets called out for saying something stupid
>"Nuh-uh! I never used the specific word, so even though what I said meant the exact same thing, you're wrong!"

Your strawman skills are commendable, but not enough to cover up what an idiot you are.

>Like I havse said, the issue lie with contacting her at the last minute as if it was something that could be glossed over.

You're assuming he glossed over it. Maybe he was afraid to contact her and spent the entire time agonizing over it? Learn to use your goddamn brain, people aren't so black and white.

>the discussion is about whether or not that anger is called for.

The "lizard brain" means it was completely irrational, a twitch reaction, which means it wasn't called for. Holy fuck, how are you this dense. You need a spot on the periodic table for christ's sake.

I'm out of this thread, this is like arguing with a child.

>>82788090
She knew he contacted her at the last moment. When people WANT to see you, they make plans in advance to make sure you're available; " hey what's up, I'm coming to town in 2 weeks and wondered if you wanted to catch up at some point".

But when it's " yeah I'm IN town right NOW and leaving in a couple of days but just thought to check if you had time tomorrow", it means you're an afterthought. They planned the trio for weeks, knowing you're there, showed up, spent x amount of time around in the same city all without contacting you, and only decide to see if you happen to be available when they only have one or two days left and you might have made other plans. It means you're not high on the priority list, you're an afterthought, an impulse.

And again, it's not Eve's business how long he's been around. He could have come and gone without contacting her,it's his right. He calls, I'm here now, leaving pretty soon, wanna see, and she took the offer knowing full well the suddenness of it all doesn't spell commitment. She doesn't need to know how long he's been around, only that he only chooses to contact her that late - it makes no difference if he'd have flown in that morning, he didn't make the decision to travel in an impulse but planned the trip for weeks, months - she's an afterthought and wasn't originally a part of his travel plans and she knows it, but chooses to ignore it because she wants to believe in the fantasy she's created.

It's sort of funny how hard you're trying to twist this so that Eve wouldn't come across as a cunt, but she's not a victim here, she just made dumbass choices

>>82784399
Handwaving away psycho-bitch shit like throwing a drink in a guy's face while you're talking in a restaurant isn't a "minor" defense. It's full on white knight bitch-boy mode. I hope you grow up some day, preferably before you're old enough to vote.

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>>82763155

Can we make a list of webvomics for/by white women that always involve memes, drinking, sex without being sexy and tons and tons of first world problems?

>>82788216
>he suddenly decided "Maybe I'd like to see Eve" on his second to last day in down

I would do the same if I'm not sure about how my ex would take seeing me again.

If she reacts badly at least I'm about to leave town so I don't have to avoid her for long

>>82792624
Are you unironically suggesting that Octopus Pie might be pretentious hipster bullshit?

I'm shocked.

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>>82766361
>posting in 4chan
>expecting emotional maturity
>expecting basic understanding of human interactions

oh, friendo

>>82767556
>objective

If the sexes of the two characters were reversed, this conversation would be completely different.

>>82773776
underrated

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>>82793189
There IS a pattern, however. SoL webcomics by women are "comfy", Diverse and centered on relationships. SoL webcomics by men are Kafkaesque and full of depression and self-loathing.

>>82793500
You might have a point.

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>>82782083
Whoa now, let's not go crazy here

>>82769619

> ME ME ME

Oh man. This author got writing Women down to a tee.

>>82786458
He's an asshole but I do agree with him. It's easy to see people side with Eve though because "She's living her life" but all she's doing is nothing and while it's okay for some people to want to do nothing. It'll probably get to her latter.

>>82769710
I had a girlfirned who would do exactly this.
Throw a drink at my face and say I was "protecting my ego" when I insulted her back

Well, if I would visit an ex which was obviously a kid when I broke up, my hopes would be that she had grown out of it, but I wouldn't be surprised if she didnt.
I would react like Park: "you haven't changed, I knew it", because it would be probably the reason I broke up in the first place