ZACK SNYDER'S "JUSTICE LEAGUE"

>>82696996
>30,000 years ago, Darkseid attempted to conquer Earth, but was repelled by an alliance between humans, Amazons and Atlanteans, and three Mother Boxes were left behind.

This Chariots of the Gods wank has got to stop. At least when Thor does it you're talking about assholes who didn't give humans shit.

Some bullshit should just stay in the 70s.

This is hard to believe because the bones of that are super classic Gardner Fox JLA stuff

>>82696996

Already sound shit

>>82697093
>ZACK SNYDER'S

yep it's shit

Yeah, I can see Snyder forcing you to wait until JL part 2 for Superman.

>>82696996
This has to be fake, otherwise the leaps in logic are insane.
>Batman realizes they have to revive Superman
How the fuck would he 'realize' that? Doesn't matter how much Snyder wants it, Batman isn't actually Jesus, so he can't just bring people back to life.

>>82697093
Its coming off of a shit movie so I don't see why that would surprise you.

>>82697182
>Superman is the most powerful of us all, we need to bring him back to life to fight Darkseid. I'm sure some sort of magic or alien technology can accomplish that.

>>82696996
>repelled by an alliance between humans, Amazons and Atlanteans

What? No New Genesis? Haha

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>>82696996
>30,000 years ago, Darkseid attempted to conquer Earth, but was repelled by an alliance between humans, Amazons and Atlanteans
Why the fuck is Superman even important then.
Right out the gate Darkseid sounds like an utter bitch.

>>82697213
>I'm sure some sort of magic or alien technology can accomplish that.

Sounds like quite a leap to make. Batman is just pulling ideas out his ass at that point.

>>82697309
This isn't a smart Batman

>>82697266
And here I was hyped for muh New Gods couple.

>>82696996
wouldnt it have been better if darkseid had been defeated by the gods of earth? he could have killed most of them in the process which is why their influence waned

>>82697266
>>82697361

They're the NEW gods. Of course they weren't there 30000 years ago

>>82697361
I mean, that's what's not making me take these seriously.
New Genesis would be low hanging fruit.

>>82697402
Darkseid is a New God.

>>82697402
Darkseid is also New God. If he's around, New Genesis should be as well.

>>82697435
>Believing we'll even see New Genesis.

>>82697473
If we're seeing Yuga Khan/Steppenwolf or whoever...we can spare an Orion

>>82697473
>Snyder going nuts because he saw Genesis in name
>everyone is angel
>and they go around smiting heretics

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>Darkseid is Thanos
>The Mother Boxes are The Infinite Stones
Wow, how original

>>82697304
Was thinking the same thing, darksied got bitched out by fish men, dyke bitches and a bunch of humans with sticks and rocks.

>>82697435
>>82697473
>movie opens with a montage of Darkseid destroying New Genesis on his way to earth

>>82697505
Not going to lie.
But Orion and Lightray being Archangel archetypes would be awesome.

The only positive thing that could come out of Snyder's religious shit.

So we're going to spend an entire movie without Superman so at the end they go "we need Superman!".

Why the fuck did they even start the DCU with Superman. WB and Snyder just seem to fucking hate him.

>>82697521
Now you're just being mean.
>>82697527
And Highfather already looks... religious.
Oh, and you can tie-in Scott being human because he ditched fancy powers.

>>82696996
>Steppenwolf leads an army of Parademons into Earth
>INTO Earth

>>82697556
Because unlike martian manhunter, supes is too big a name to just drop and ignore. So this is how he's used.

>>82697574
>And Highfather already looks... religious.
Let's not bead around the burning bush here.
He's Moses.

And yeah, I want a New Gods movie that plays all of that to the hilt with Scott.
He's in normal clothes and then BAM divine energy power.

>>82696996
He should put the motherboxes on some sort of glove.

>>82697527
Lightray would be cool, but that would be a fucktarded look for Orion.

>>82697613
Orion fits that whole Michael deal though.
And, well, it would be easy to play with the whole "good face/evil face" thing.

>>82697584
Hal Jordan tier plan there, desu.
>>82697599
Bonus if we get PING.
>>82697610
Should they be multicolored?

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>>82697584
We'regetting closer to the best Batman story ever finally being adapted to film!

>>82697631
>multicolored
sure, very dark blue, very dark grey and black.

>>82697631
>Bonus if we get PING.
Hell, there should be PING in this movie regardless of anything else

They are going to revive Supes by doing that clone bullshit that brought Doomsday. We all know it

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>>82697650
>very dark colors

>>82697673
But he already revived himself

>>82697673
Nope.
Doomsday will act as Darkseid's avatar.

>>82697673
>Bizzarro

>>82697738
>Bizzarro is their first attempt

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>>82697673
He was already showing signs of being alive at the end of BvS. We're getting pic related.

>>82696996
I just want to see Superman killing Batman for being a huge faggot

>>82697304
>30,000 years ago
Plenty of time to grow bigger and stronger

>>82697151
Yeah, just as I thought. Superman can't be the face of this universe

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Zack the Hack needs to be fired.

Why hasn't Alan Moore done everyone a favor and just magically kill him via the Astral Plane yet?

>>82696996
Sounds great

>>82697511
Kill yourself pleb

>>82696996
>On present day, Steppenwolf leads an army of Parademons into Earth to retrieve the Mother Boxes, after communicating with Lex Luthor through the Kryptonian scout ship.

Didn't they already confirm that demon guy wasn't Steppenwolf, but another guy who's name escapes me?

>>82697556
I'm pretty sure the plan was for Superman to be in more shit but Man of Steel underperformed so we never got an actual MoS2 and they needed Batman to be the front-runner for the DCEU as quick as possible

If we assume Superman won't be in Part 1, that means that by the conclusion of JL Supes will have been in two movies while Batman will have been in four

>>82697911
Yuga Khan?

>>82697911
It's a deleted scene, it's not canon. We already know he was mucking about in the scout ship anyway.

>>82697879
>Zack the Hack needs to be fired.
No, he needs to be axed. Permanently.

>>82697879
>Zack the hack
>venerates that retarded recluse autist known as Alan Moore
This is very wrong.

>>82697556
Honestly Superman has been the worst thing about these movies so I wouldn't mind if he even stayed dead.

Maybe we can replace him with Captain Marvel (even if they wanna call him Shazam, I don't care).

>>82697879
Alan Moore hates comic fans. He probably created Snyder.

>>82697931
It's gonna be in the extended cut.

Instead of forming the Justice League, why doesnt Wonder Woman just call Zeus and the Gods and shit to kill Darkseid again? Do you want Zeus on your team or Aquaman?

Oh wait
>its a Devin Faraci leak

Because hey fuck looking at his horrendous Batman v Superman track record! Mayimbe has better leaks than him

>No superman in part 1
This has to be bait

>>82697640
OH GOD!

>>82697928
Yeah, that's the name, although i'm not sure if it was confirmed by WB or if it was just another rumour

>>82697931
I highly doubt the deleted scenes (the ones that will be added to the extended cut, of course) aren't gonna be considered canon
But if it was that'd just confirm the leak is fake

>>82697937
>Honestly Superman has been the worst thing about these movies
That's not Lois

>>82697911
Snyder and the people who did the scene confirmed it was supposed to be Yuga Khan. In any case, they'll probably just combine the Olympians with New Genesis and say they're one in the same so it all ties in.

>>82698000
I stand corrected.

Kill her off too then.

>>82697937
Cavill is great, it's just backed by really really shitty writing that doesn't allow him to fucking smile.

Who has the Chris Evan face photoshopped into the jokerbody?

>>82698000
Thank you
>Ugly
>Red hair
>Ugly as hell
>Literally exists just to be saved

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>>82697397
Well congratulations anon, you just shitposted a better idea than this whole cinematic universe.

Now I'm depressed.

>>82698070
>being this pleb

Who has the Chris Evan face photo shopped into the leto's jokerbody?

>>82698070
IDK, I'd still hit it.

>>82698070
>Literally exists just to be saved

It's funny how Snyderfags claim these movies "finally" made Lois her own person

>>82698070
>Ugly
>Red hair
>Ugly as hell

Kill yourself

>>82697969

How is he going to appear if he is dead? :^)

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>Marvel
Let's give each character a movie or two to establish their character while making nods to other characters before we create a conflict movie between them

>DC
Hey lets just combine 3 stories Injustice, The dark knight returns, and Doomsday all into one movie it will be epic with all the action and drama kids love these days :^)

>>82698192
Yeah she was a boss bitch in the animated series. This one isn't an army brat. I don't believe she could beat anyone up. She's no helicopter pilot. She's just... there.

Why not have New Genisis the ones to help repel Darkseid?

>>82697961
Good thing this is a Mayimbe leak, then.

And Faraci called several aspects of BvS's script.

>>82698283
It's so simple that I have to think these are too faulty to be real

>>82698205
I'm not saying red hair is bad I'm saying out of all the black haired actors they chose a red head and ugly one at that.

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>>82698300
>Amy Adams
>ugly

>>82698269
It's telling that her only line i can remember from MoS is when she asked to army guy where she could pee
Well, that and "what about Su--"

>>82698260
What's shocking is Marvel took Civil War and made it good.

>>82698260

So if we just aborted defected fetuses there wouldn't be Marvelfags.

>>82698300
>and ugly one at that.

Kill yourself twice

>>82698283
Because New Genesis will basically be the Olympians and they'll have some stupid shit like "WE MUST NOT GET INVOLVED IN THE AFFAIRS OF MERE MORTALS" or some other hacky shit.

They are not going to NOT HAVE Superman for a whole movie, and bring him back in part 2. I call bullshit.

>>82698328
She looks 40 and has a fat face even naked she is just plain. Lois is supposed to be a boomshell.

>>82698380
It makes sense, every single person involved with these movies hates the character.
>>82698387
You are sounding more and more like a homosexual.

>>82698380
>superman fags on suicide watch

lel

>>82698412
>I'm gay because I have standards
Okay enjoy your grandma

>>82698432
You're on 4chan, you don't deserve to have any standards.

>>82698427
I couldn't care less about Superman. You can stop with le reddit memes.

>>82698341

Hi underage!

>>82698332
I didn't remember the pee one. Still don't. Something about a shipping container?

Ooo ooo and she said something to Martha at the farmhouse about wanting to talk to her about her son.

This is actually really hard.

>>82698432
I will, she's a sexy grandma

Pretty sure she's older than 40

>>82698344
Sad part is I'm a DCfag I'm just sad that Marvel's stories are being handled better in cinema

>>82697875
>not having superman as the face of a dc movie universe
Jesus christ why continue to exist on this pointless earth

>>82698260
That's really the sad thing. DC feels the need to take inspiration to some of their WORSE storylines. I mean Dark Knight Returns has some GREAT moments but DC loves taking that out over and over again that it's becomes boring. Injustice is a fun ride but at no point anyone should use it as a base for any real story telling. And Death of Superman and follow up might be one of the worse storylines in comic history (Maybe OMD wins out but nothing about Death of Superman was actually interesting).

>30,000 years ago

Do they just pull these numbers out of their asses?

>>82698515
At least they didn't say 6 thousand years ago when man walked alongside dinosaurs.

>>82698332
>>82698478

The dick-measuring quote is the most standout thing she said.

And using MoS isn't really fair; I mean it's hard to think of lines from even Superman in that movie.

>>82696996
Sounds fine to me but all the drones and casuals will flock to this thread and bitch about how horrible it sounds.

This board is so pathetic now.

>>82698460
You shouldn't care that he might not be in Part 1 then.

>>82698260
Iron Man 2 would have words with you.

>>82698380
Dude Superman wont be coming back until the END of part 2. Suck muh diiiiiiiick.

>>82698478
What about that part where she's interacting with ghost dad to save Superman
Or that part where she convinced the military to be in a warzone for no good reason only to then be saved by Superman while the rest of her group is disintegrated
Or that part where she's interacting with army guy to convince him to investigate the bullet
Or that part where she's interacting with Morpheus to get free choppers to save Superman

Man, this Lois gal is always knows how to make the story progress

>>82698545
Yeah, true and the sad thing is how BvS retroactively makes MoS look so good in comparison

>>82698555
Iron Man 2 was fine, it was Thor that was the real piece of shit.

>>82698468
If you like Civil War great I really didn't. Had some nice moments but overall it wasn't that good.

>>82698070
what are you, a faggot?

>>82698556
Based Snyder.

>>82698503

Anon, if you vomit 13 movies out in less then a decade at least a few of them will be descent. Too bad no Marvel film will ever reach TDK levels.

>>82698573
Yeah I sorta remember all those things visually, but like, any dialogue? I got nothing.

>>82698598
TDK doesn't count cause its not in a shared universe.

>>82696996
So are we going to get a cameo from Scott and big bard?

>>82698573
Or, you know, the part where she saves Superman and makes Batman come to his senses.

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>Tfw Antman was better than BvS

>We have to suffer through one more Snyderfilm until JL2.

WHY.

>>82698515
Johns is involved and he thinks the Roman empire was a thing 5000 years ago. So yes they do. But in the other hand Vandal savage is 30.000 go and one part was casted as "the caveman" and Miller is involved and his dead jl became jl:doom starring Vandal savage, the same Vandal that was working for the new gods in young justice

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>>82698650

> "You're n-not playing fair anon! Play by my rules!"

>>82698677
>Or that part where she's interacting with Morpheus to get free choppers to save Superman

Plus "it's his mother's name" isn't all that much work

>>82698233
If they wanted to pretend someone was going to believe Superman wouldn't come back for one more movie, they shouldn't have the floaty rocks on the coffin at the end of BvS.

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>>82696996
>Darkseid attempted to conquer Earth, but was repelled by an alliance between humans, Amazons and Atlanteans
>humans, Amazons and Atlanteans

>>82698651
Yeah, I'm hoping Snyder gets to have "fun" with them.

>Zack Snyder is going to completely ruin the New Gods, including Darkseid
Fuck me.

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>>82698697
Good. Good.

>>82698697
Dude Antman was better most of the MCU. And none of the MCU went as low as BvS (IM2 and Thor 2 was bad but not that bad).

>>82698785
Ultron robots can be defeated by street levelers like Black Widow and Hawkeye, you have nothing to boast about here, Marveldrone.

>>82696996
>Batman realizes they need to revive Superman in order to stop him.

This will only be acceptable IF they show Darkseid beating the shit out of everyone in the JL by himself.

>>82698767
No, that was just hinting that Superman is going to comeback at some point, not right in the next movie.

Looks like Snyder's symbolisms are still too deep for you

>>82697213
Then why the fuck didn't he try to revive Robin or his parents?

I just wonder if they will somehow do a CoIE to reboot the whole thing or just try to somehow make everything somehow work (which I don't even thing WB believes that).

>>82698871
Maybe you're right, maybe it will take three movies for Superman to rise from the grave.

>>82698871
A lot of people are just to fucken dumb to get it desu senpai. You seem cool tho.

>>82698836
>damage control

Is it bad if I see this if Orion's confirmed to show up?

wait they're still using snyder?

didn't the entire world just figure out that he's a joke

the next movie has to actually be good

>>82698958
>the next movie has to actually be good
T-thid time is the charm, r-right? - WB Executives

>>82698935
No, it's just the truth. Marvel villains are hardly threats. You can take them out with a gun or a bow and arrow.

>>82698836
Normal Ultron robots are mood level.
Do you really want to compare Darkseid with one of those?

>>82698958
Bro the only joke here is how few pushups you can do. Straight up

>>82698958
Third time's the charm!

They were too advanced into development to suddenly drop their main director, they're already in filming

>>82698996
>Resorting to power level faggotry

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>>82698899

>>82699001
Mook level I was saying

>>82698836
>drones are on the same level as a god

>>82699055
You mean an alien?

>>82698821
literally the most retarded thing ive ever read

>>82698958
WB is fucking stupid that's why.

>"Oh hey this director receives a polarizing response to all of his movies, let's let him over look our cinematic universe."

I give Marvel a lot of shit for not really letting their people have creative control but damn it they would've booted Snyder's ass out so damned fast.

>>82698785
Speed force users and humans with access to magic are the most powerful beings in the DC universe.

>>82696996
I don't know if this is real or not, but it sounds like such generic uninspired schlock that I could absolutely see this being the actual plot for their next movie.

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>>82699100
>being this delusional

>>82699125
WB really is genuinely stupid.

They have some of the biggest and most iconic IPs in the world and a goldmine of material to adapt from, yet they've done nothing but falter with anything that isn't Batman for the past decade. How can you fuck up when you have Superman, Wonder Woman, the Justice League, and the rest of the DC universe?

What happens if Suicide Squad really does turn out to be a mess like the rumors claim? Do they still continue on Justice League or not?

>>82696996
Wait. So we're not gonna get GL and Shazam?

>>82696996
Sure is convenient that the forces of Apokalips only tries to retrieve the mother boxes now, when there is a justice league, instead of at any other time between now and 30,000 years ago.

Fuck you Goyer.

>>82699263
Well, JL has been filming for a month now so yes

>>82699210
WB genuinely thinks the public must be stupid. Marvel (as much as people will call me a shill for saying this) understands people need to be introduced to their weirder concepts. But because they took the time to let us know WHY we should like shit like Ant-Man and GOTG, people actually did end up liking them and making them successes.

MCU feels like it was meant to expand more, but all the DCEU feels like is treading the same territory and not understanding why it isn't as successful.

>>82699263
It's already filming, backing out would be a horrible decision. If you release a shitty film you at least have a chance of making back a little cash, scrapping it after paying the whole crew is basically just losing all your money.

>>82699210
They look at money more than anything. Batman to them is the money making machine. And the most profitable Batman comic was Dark Knight Returns. And the most profitable Superman comic is Death of Superman. That's where they are getting their ideas. But never really asking why they were profitable at the time.

>>82698996
anon, in order to have threats you need them to have impact as threats
and that means established and loved characters that haven't just been on screen for fifteen minutes in total will die

and then the kids in the audience will cry

you don't want that, do you?

>>82699100
t. dcuck

>>82699318
>Marvel (as much as people will call me a shill for saying this) understands people need to be introduced to their weirder concepts.

Marve's actually has been to to include any too weird concepts.

Even Guardians of the Galaxy is pretty tame by sci-fi standards. Compare it to, say, A New Hope, which actually is a weird movie.

>>82699318
>>82699341
I agree but I also think it's an almost complete and total lack of faith in their properties. I honestly don't think we'd even be getting a DC cinematic universe if people hadn't been screaming for one for years now because of the MCU.

It's so sad that even for all of the success that Marvel has had, WB can't just look at it and think, "We can do that too!" Or if they have already, they don't seem to realize why the MCU worked or they go through with it in the worst possible way.

>>82699210
I remember getting my head torn off for this but there is literally zero excuse for BvS not getting $1 Billion at the box office. Three of the most iconic comicbook characters of all time in a movie together, the debut of Wonder Woman, the formation of the JL. I'm just so angry that Snyder gets so many chances over and over again and he fails to deliver every time and he didn't listen to the valid complaints that he got from MoS.

>>82698515
Isn't that when Atlantis as first flooded?

>>82698553
Its nauseating

>>82698553
Pretty much. It's just mindless circle jerk of Disney fellatio.

>>82699473

BvS was a decent movie.

People have just developed a very weird mindset about superhero movies, so they react poorly.

>>82699409
That's really my one annoying thing about the MCU. They seem to be almost scared of turning people off with anything weird. Like how Thor uses kind of technology instead of just saying it's fucking magic.

I'm just hoping with Antman and soon Doctor Strange they will be more willing to take the weird side of things. Since people are now invested they can spend some capital in doing something off the rails. But who knows if they will really do it or just keep up the same old same.

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Minor details mentioned in the artbook.

>Apokolips is a mobile planet and drains the natural resources of other worlds, reducing them to barren wastelands. The scorched deserted in Batman's nightmare was actually the ruins of Wayne Manor with Gotham City in the distance.

>The Flash needs his power armor to travel through time, and the post-apocalyptic future he came from to alert Batman will be explored.

Also, one of the concept artists provided his own take on the Knightmare.

>The Flash travelled back in time to alert Batman about Darkseid's invasion, and his breaching the space-time continuum caused Batman to have visions of the future.

>>82699409
>>82699563
I actually agree with these but it looks like they're turning things around now and embracing the craziness. Not to mention that Marvel Studios is just plum better at running a cinematic universe than WB is.

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>>82699210
>Batman Forever
>Batman & Robin
>Steel
>Catwoman
>Jonah Hex
>Green Lantern
>Now BvS

And that's ignoring those movies that got more of a mixed reception like Costantine or MoS, or the insight we have on how some producers approach these movies like Jon Peters and his fixation for "Thanagarian" beasts and polar bears in Superman Lives

>>82699521
That's the problem. It shouldn't have been a decent movie, it should've been a GOOD movie.
There is nothing wrong with having a cape film grounded in reality, but Zack didn't learn a damned thing from the criticisms that he got from MoS. Clark didn't have to be so mopey, Bruce didn't have to kill, the cameos, as cool as they were, weren't necessary. Lex could've had better characterization.

>>82699473
regardless of box office, what pisses me off is that the movie had easy mistakes
easy

>a million red lights during doomsday fight
explosions loose impact the more you show them. how can he not know this?

>luthor
has he ever seen luthor? at all? does he know why luthor is dangerous

>pee jar
why? what purpose does it serve? was it funny? or supposed to build up luthor as a genius? it obviously can't do either, what was it's fucking point

>people not giving a shit about supes, blaiming murders others obviously did -bullets- on him
like why? and why is he sad all the time? he has people who love him, a big portion of the public praise him too? what's his freaking deal

>the whole martha/lois spear thing
won't even address it

The problem with BvS wasn't that it was pure dogshit with no good parts at all it was that its mistakes were really obvious and really easily avoided by someone who can put 2+2 together.

>>82699608
>Steel
Does he even has his own villains?

>>82699569
>>Apokolips is a mobile planet and drains the natural resources of other worlds
So Darkseid is just Mongul then? Or not? Still retarded.

>>82699608
What's the point you're making? You're agreeing with me?

The sad thing is, they have no one to blame but themselves with Jonah Hex and GL. Especially Jonah Hex. Just make a fucking Western ffs.

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>DC fans will defend this
its gonna be a clusterfuck of a movie, and its gonna last 5 hours in its director cut because you cannot put that many characters without fleshing out them at least a bit.

>>82697050
>This Chariots of the Gods wank has got to stop
nignog all of kirby's stuff is chariot of the gods stuff

new gods/eternals are his take of those themes into both dc/marvel

>>82699595
I think they will start doing crazy things. Mostly because now it's mostly not as well known heroes taking the show they have to embrace some craziness to make people interested in that. Also it seem cosmic is being a much more bigger deal which opens so many things. As I said they could very well just keep up the same action scenes like always but I do feel even they know they will need to add a bit more spice to keep people going. GotG was weak sauce to what they could do but you also have to remember they mostly used GotG as a testing to see how well people would react to even a bit of weirdness and people loved that shit.

>>82696996
>30k years ago
>humans
how do you fight off Darkseid when you don't have any tech or even civilization?

>>82699735
This. That shit is classic Kirby/New Gods period.

>>82699741
Honestly it's a shame that they even had to convince people with GotG. I didn't like that movie too much but it did do justice to its source material, for the most part.

>>82699747
Time Jesus

>>82699263
They release it.
WB has completely fucked themselves beyond saving at this point.
Being the retards they are, they bit off way more than they could chew at once and then put Hack Snyder in charge of all of it, not just in charge of directing and oversight but his production company is already signed off for everything.
They've already done tons of casting and started filming for it, they have to release it. This is the reason films normally take so long to get going because once the train is rolling there is no stopping it and trainwrecks leave no good solutions.

Justice league is pretty certainly going to be a collosal failure that'll perform much worse than BvS, probably only around $500-600M worldwide. It's going to be a depressing next couple of years as this all slowly comes to fruition, I wouldn't be surprised if they fire the current CEO and the entire board after all this, he's released failure after failure and JL will be the last straw.

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>>82699700

>gif
get with the times, grandpa

>>82699688
>What's the point you're making? You're agreeing with me?
Yeah...?

>>82699616
>Lex could've had better characterization
I will forever wonder what the fuck they were taking to think that was what was needed. You know what maybe Zack did take some people's opinion and mostly looked at "why is MoS so dark and saddening?" and decided to make Lex a weird goofy character to bring some comedy in the mix.

>>82698468
Says the man who clearly wasn't here when Civil War was being published.

>>82699818
nothing changes but thanks anyways.
now i can post double this

Ding ding ding ding ding ding....

>>82699818
it's not 1938 anymore

>>82699899
Shame!

>>82699899
WHAT DOES THE LEX SAY

>>82699967
TEA TEA PEACH TEA TEA TEA TEA TEA PEACH TEA TEA TEA TEA

GODS

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>>82699473
>there is literally zero excuse for BvS not getting $1 Billion at the box office.

>>82699656
Exactly.

The Doomsday fight was a boring CGI fest. Sometimes less is more and that scene was a good example of it and it was just another excuse for Zack to have explosions. Luthor was.....shit I like Jesse and I don't mind hammy Lex, but that pee jar thing and the party scene was just fucking weird. Now the Supes thing I can get because I liked seeing a polarizing response to Supes after the events in MoS, but the way he went about it was just messy and rushed as fuck. If BvS was about Supes just doing superheroic shit I would back the movie 100%, the Doomsday stuff wasn't necessary at all.

The Martha thing, I'm torn on, like I get the point of it but the way it was done was, again, weird and just awkward. However I don't understand how it became this big joke online. It's silly but not that silly.


BvS should've been Zack redeeming himself after MoS, but he didn't learn anything and got defensive over the negative reviews BvS got so why should I see JL1?

>>82699808
I hate it too but I feel Marvel was scared of how people would react to any actual comic weirdness that might come about. So GotG was them testing the water. Nothing too big but weird enough to see if they could do more. At least that's how I saw GotG. I just wonder how far they will let GotG 2 go. Will they still hold back or will they start to open the floodgates.

As I said I think they will start embracing more and more. One thing you can't really have Doctor Strange and now have insane stuff happening.

>>82700004
>On your left!

>>82696996
From what I know from behind the scenes all this is true. First I've seen of the Steppenwolf name though.

>>82696996
>>82697304
>>82697402
Just realized this implies that Atlantis and Amazons existed for 30,000 years when both have roots in ancient greece....

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>it's another """""""leak""""""" thread

>>82700058
Trendsetters.

>>82699816
Funny how everyone found quotes after quotes from Snyder about how much he hates superhero stories. You would think WB would have seen that and thought "maybe having this guy have complete control over our characters is a bad idea" But I'm guessing they just saw how big of a deal 300 was and didn't question it.

I still wish the Nolan films would've been part of the DC movie universe.

>>82700004
>Zootopia is still just over $60 million away from $1b
So fucking close.

>>82699024
Yes well that is one way to ensure a villain is a credible threat. Not having them job to fucking every super hero on your team.

Lets have a moment of silence for all the struggling artists, writers, and filmmakers out there who will never see their magnum opus through to completion due to a lack of adequate funding, meanwhile this bullshit keeps chugging along with a half billion dollar budget. What could we have had instead?

>>82700004
>A movie about Batman and Superman barely beating out Deadpool but it was still outperformed domestically.
>Civil War catching up BvS's total gross in two weeks.

>>82700058
shhh, shhh
let it all in
it's easier that way
don't struggle
I'm greek and pissed off

>>82699269
GL bombed family, don't expect to see him again anytime soon.

>>82700285
Why? Neither Amazons or Atlanteans are Greek on greek myth. The Amazonians are ancient enemies like Trojans or fucking centaurs.

WB missed what the reason for the MCU's success was.

The Avengers and co were the audience's "buddies" that the viewers could empathise with. They had fun. They faced evil threats, but they had fun both doing that and in between battles.
Kids could see the superhoeroes as a cool older brother and adults could see them as someone they could have a beer with.

WB failed at that. That's the issue.

>>82700285
What if Darkseid and Zeus raped wonder Woman together 40,000 years ago, and that was her secret origin?

I like that. That's deep.

>>82700382
Yeah, yeah, both are enemies, buuuuuut

they're greek-ish. Same gods, same language.

Trojans were a colony that went independent, they're pretty much greeks.

>>82696996
Given the power of such a word they should be renamed Marthaboxes.
And what primitive fucking weapons would stop Darkseid? Or are spears the ultimate weapon in the DCEU?

>>82700424
>zeus
>needing to rape
guy was smoother than a baby's butt
he didn't need to rape

>>82699373
My bad, nevermind. I must think of the children.

I certainly wouldn't want to see any tears shed.

I guess the Marvel Method is the only way then.

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>>82698697
>those nipples

>>82700478
Zeus raped by deceit a lot.

>>82700478
What if she was having consensual sex with her grandfather Zeus WHILE being raped by Darkseid?

These are good ideas anon. I'm glad I come here during set breaks.

>>82699735
yeah he's been dead for 22 years is the thing and to be honest, there's ALIENS and there's shit like the Stargate movie, that treated Chariots with the appropriate level of hammy respect

if you're trying to make a "serious" movie, you can't rely on ALIENS literally giving humanity everything on a plate; even less so if it's a movie about fucking Superman of all people

it's literally at the point where if this is the direction they're going, the underlying theme of these movies is that poor people are worthless and should do as they're told by their superiors who were born to wealth and privilege because no human has ever really achieved anything

it's the most regressive cocklicker bullshit possible, and i'm sick of it

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>>82700508
>raped by deceit

That being said, his shapeshifting was mostly to evade husbands, don't scare with his divine form and hide from hera.

>>82700478
>Zeus
>didn't need to rape
Dude, 90% of the ancient greek legends were Zeus or Poseidon raping a woman or pretending to be her husband to have 'consensual' sex. Like 50% of those stories were about the women getting punished for said rape too.

>>82700602
Hercules was when Zeus fucked a girl while looking like the husband. And it's mostly to hide from his wife not the husband.

>>82700508
It's woven into all of the myths that Zeus is a sex god with a magic cock and every woman he had sex with received mire pleasure than he did. Even the times when he just needed to get a woman pregnant as part of a prophecy or some design for the mortals and was in and out of a woman in a second without her knowing or in the form of golden rain, the woman received an earth shaking orgasm from it

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>>82696996
>On present day, Steppenwolf leads an army of Parademons into Earth to retrieve the Mother Boxes
I'm always going to have a mental image of the Justice League fighting the 70s rock band

>>82700678
hence "mostly"

But most of the time the women liked it.
Like the time he turned into rain to fuck a chick.
Chick loved it, see was wet all the time.

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>>82696996
You know, before BvS I probably would have thought this sounded awesome, but now it just sounds like it will be awful.

>>82700659
That's a common misunderstanding anon. It's not your fault or anything though, as most people aren't privy to this information. The vast majority of the rape connotations of these myths as you understand them come from much later Roman translations that are in and of themselves far removed from the original purpose and meaning of the myths.

Poseidon and Medusa for example were originally written to be engaged in a passionate love affair with rape never being a part of it. Medusa at this time was the Queen of the Titanic Order, the principal enemies of the Olympic Order, so it was portraying Posiedon as betraying Zeus by making love with his enemies. It's actually a really interesting romance story at it's heart

>>82700163
I'm not sure why you would want to tarnish the Nolan trilogy by attaching them to this nonsense.

>>82700405
You'd see them as people you'd want to interact with. Not be afraid of.

WB/DC heroes. If people saw any of them people would run away.

>>82700452
Hehe, Marthaboxes. I like that, Anon.

>>82700813
Hesiod, Theogony 270 ff (trans. Evelyn-White) (Greek epic C8th or C7th B.C.) :
"Poseidon, he of the dark hair, lay with one of these [Medousa, one of the Gorgones], in a soft meadow and among spring flowers."

>>82700578
That sounds like right up Snyder's alley, then.

>>82700868
That's the problem. That's a wrong direction to take them for a shared CU.

>>82700058
Johns thinks rome existed 5000 years ago. Also no. Atlantis was alwats older than greece it was a myth for them

>>82700925
In either Plato or Plutarch -I forget which- there's a story visits a historian in egypt and he tells him of the battle between athens and atlantis

the battle is sci-fi tier.

>>82700990
*a story where a greek visits

and the historian is more a "priest keeper of records" but close enough

>>82700743
That's basically Snyder in a nutshell: Good ideas, shit execution.

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>>82700925
>>82700990
Atlantis was said to be a continent in the middle of the Atlantic ocean with hundreds of cities upon it, ruled by various sects of philosopher and high priest kings who knew the secrets of now lost ancient sciences and had mastery over sacred alchemy. They colonized most of the world before Atlantis was lost, and many of these colonies took up the sword and the titles of Atlantis and tried to restore it's former dominion.

The island Calypso kept Odysseus upon had upon it the ruins of an ancient Atlantian colony as well. Lost creations of Atlantis and it's ancient hidden sciences are woven throughout Greek mythology

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>>82701155
Aw thanks cuz. That means a lot.

>shit execution
Ya that's why I killed him.

>>82700004
Imagine how well Deadpool would have done if it opened in China. It beat BvS domestically.

>>82701343
Zack pls.

>people complained about Superman's death in BvS being cheap and not having consquences
>next movie rumored to not have Superman and show how things are fucked without him which gives relevance to his death in the previous movie
>Superfags and other fags complain

Oh well, nothing to see here.

>>82697918
yeah, well, underperformed iIt is an exaggerated term. It has made more than 700 billion. Even Captain America: First Avenger, underperformed and yet, Marvel Studio has not killed or transformed him into the butler of Tony Stark. Even in Avengers 1, with RDJ, at the peak of his popularity, the film was very respectful for Cap as a leaders.
Them Winter Soldier has arrived and now everyone loves Cap, what a surprise!!!!

Perhaps the evil plan of WB and DC is this ... Make a long line of bad movies so that fans get tired of Super Heroes and Marvel and Fox are screwed.

>>82700721
>no one noticed my awesome joke
plebs
meh

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>>82701437
I'm sitting on the toilet right now with the script in one hand and your post on my phone in the other, and imma wipe my ass with one of them.

>>82701732
You can always go to reddit if you want your internet points

>>82698838
>>Batman realizes they need to revive Superman in order to stop him.
>This will only be acceptable IF they show Darkseid beating the shit out of everyone in the JL by himself.

Anon, resurrect the dead is big thing. It's not something that someone can decide to do deliberately.

>>82701588
He's going to come back, they're just delaying it, they can't have their cake and eat it too.

>>82700743
Even now I wonder.. why the hell they combed Cavill in that way? it's as if they had enjoyed to emphasize that he's losing hair

>>82701947
stress makes you bald, it's symbolism

>>82701976
He's dying for his art.

>>82701947
Even weirder, at this point he had plenty of time and money to stop his baldness but it seems he nor WB cares.

>>82701732
>>82701797
Heh, I was gonna point it out but never really got around to it but begging for attention is just pathetic.

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>>82701185
Kek, Plato blatantly stole that idea from Tolkien

>>82700163
I doubt Nolan would be interested in creating a cinematic superheroverse anyway. He just wanted to make Batman films. WB couldn't do anything with the character until Nolan left, and look... at... them... now.

Why would Atlanteans and Amazons need humans' help to defend Earth?

>>82696996
This is going to be the Dragon Ball movie all over again.

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>>82696996
>>Willem Dafoe is playing an Atlantean.
I WANTED METRON
METRON

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>>82696996
>and Batman realizes they need to revive Superman in order to stop him.

It sounds so stupid and pretentious. It would make more sense if none of them think about Superman and the latter returns to life for some other reason, not because the Batgod spoke.

>>82702139
Yeah, I wouldn't trust them to do a continuation of Nolan's trilogy without the man involved anyway.

And the Justice League just doesn't really fit in Nolan's universe anyway.

>>82699747
>psst new gods
>psst earth had tech and civilization but got blasted back into the stone age because of the war with darksied.

>>82702124
It is true though, Numenor is a very clear allegory for Atlantis, and Gondor is meant to be one of these colonies.

>>82698735
Thought Snyder was confirmed to actually help write JL Part 2

>>82702204
Did you watch BvS?
At the end of the movie Batman converted to the Superman religion, of course he will think they need the savior to save them.

>I failed him in life, I will not fail him in death.

>>82702204
Batgod is love, Batgod is life.

At least he's not the one who's gonna pull the trigger on beating Darkseid. Honestly like with BVS it will probably be like a team effort but with like Superman getting the killshot.

>>82700452
Singing you pleb. Thsts how you beat darkseid

>>82700285
pay denbts

>>82702286
>At least he's not the one who's gonna pull the trigger on beating Darkseid. Honestly like with BVS it will probably be like a team effort but with like Superman getting the killshot.

but that's exactly how it was in the comics, Batman only damaged Darkseid's mortal vessel

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Am I the only one who likes BVS, man of esteel and Zack ?

I find this script kinda good by the way.

AM I ALONE /co/ ?

>>82702295
>Justice League ends being a musical

>>82699502

>Muh conspiracy

>>82702336
No, just in the minority.

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>>82702336
>Am I the only one
no
whatever it is, you're not

>>82696996
>>Atlantis and Themyscira have a centuries-long feud, and Aquaman is also embittered towards the human race for polluting the oceans, so he refuses to collaborate at first

Hmm

>>82702327
Haha yeah now that you mention it. Final Crisis would spring to mind.

But hey at least Superman would be the one to truly finish him off, as I said.

Unless Bruce Timm was writing this, maybe :^)

>liked MoS
>defended DCEU
>was super hyped for BvS, never been this hyped for a movie before

The sad thing is I was legitimately hyped for the JL movie, hell I was hyped for SS and Aquaman, but BvS killed what love I had for DC movies and left a bitter taste, so fuck them I'll just stick with their shows

>>82702274
I WANT OFF OF SNYDER'S WILD RIDE.

>>82702389
It's a turn of phrase, you autist.

>>82702421
It's going to be brutal when Suicide Squad sucks and Jared Letos Joker is embarrassing as fuck.

>>82702336
It is steaming shit, but ... I have reconsidered Mos very much after it. I think it put the bases for a good continuation. Superman that must manage the blood in his hands, managing the fear of people, managing a mother worried about him, trying to get him out , drop everything and he... in spite of this, however, comes to decide that he wants to help people.

BUT NO... the film was not a super successful, and so they have to call Batman for spoil everything .

>>82702336
I feel like its has so much potential but screws the pooch so many times you just cant enjoy it

>>82702573
You mean it's going to be brutal when /tv/ shitposters push their tired memes and try to convine everyone he was bad

>>82702573
can we at least not take a dump on it until we see the movie if its shit go to town on it but not before

>>82702573
>>82702637
No he'll be good. He'll be the perfect Luthor.

>>82696996
>An entire Justice League film without Superman

Fuck that. Although considering all the nonsense that circulated about BvS, its probably bullshit

>>82702652
Come on anon, we know it's going to be bad. It's going to be even worse than Batman vs Superman

>>82701155
Oh yeah real fucking great idea putting The Dark Knight Returns, The Death of Superman, and the Justice League origins in a blender.

>>82702652
No.

>>82702733

Kek, I would love this actually. Just like Eisenberg was a poor man's Joker.

>>82702652
It's possible that SS will be violent and sexual enough to be enjoyable on a primal level no matter what, it might even be good.

But I'm gonna shit on the whole DCEU now until and even if they present something to redeem themselves. They've lost my trust and all that biz and internet satire is the only enjoyment to be derived from these turds. Even that is getting boring.

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>>82702869
>It's going to be even worse than Batman vs Superman

Good, and Superman will be spared from that shit. I'm not even mad.

>>82703213
Okay but just hear me out here...

What happens if the movie's good, with little to no Superman, would this not give plebs more ammo to hate on him?

>>82697875
>only two movies in
>so far he's the only character to have his own movie
>events of both movies revolve entirely around him
>he'll be absent from third movie to stress how much the heroes need him so he can triumphantly return in the next one
>"hurrrr, no Superman!"
Ya sound like morons.

>>82703534
Superman would need a MoS2 done well. In any case, i do not think this will be possible with small part in the JLA. Ironically it would work more if he had appeared in JLA for the first time and then they had made "Man of Steel".

>>82703716
EVERYTHING MUST BE ABOUT SUPERMAN ALL THE TIME BUT IT MUST BE THE SUPERMAN I WANT AND IF IT'S DIFFERENT IT'S BAD AND IT MEANS WB HATES SUPERMAN NOW OR SOMETHING

>>82704064
>>82703716
No, for real though it's clear Zack Snyder doesn't like Superman at all.

>>82703716
Also, he's specifically mentioned in Suicide Squad as a catalyst for the program, and his death is the impetus for forming the JL, as well as calling Darkseid/Steppenwolf to Earth. He seems pretty major to me.

>>82699656
>what purpose does it serve?
If you replace Lex with Snyder and every mention of "Grandma's Peach Tea" in BvS with "the DCEU," it actually makes a lot of sense.

>>82704135
Just because he doesn't regurgitate the same blue boy scout archetype that we've had dammed down our throats since the silver age doesn't mean he hates the character.

>>82700578
>it's literally at the point where if this is the direction they're going, the underlying theme of these movies is that poor people are worthless and should do as they're told by their superiors who were born to wealth and privilege because no human has ever really achieved anything
>>82700897

Especially when both of you remember that Snyder is an Ayn Rand fag.

>Steppenwolf
Fake as fuck he'll never be a relevant character let alone a major villain

>>82700075
This one actually has a source. Anon. They aren't from an anon like the others have been.

>>82704266
He made two Superman movies where it's explicitly part of the narrative that Superman's presence on earth brings out the absolute worst of humanity and causes wide spread disillusionment in humanity. Snyder doesn't like Superman at all and only wanted to make a sequel if he could make Batman the main character and have him beat up Superman and make him cry for his mother.

>>82704422
>Especially when both of you remember that Snyder is an Ayn Rand fag.
This is a big part of it all. His beliefs are diametrically opposed to heroic ideals and entirely aligned with selfishness

>>82700234
It is a fucking travesty.

>>82697937
Just let Supes be the chosen Captain Marvel and he ends up being revived.

>>82704266
>doesn't mean he hates the character.

On the contrary, yes ... it's even natural. All the stories written are influenced by our tastes and our knowledges. Miller hates Superman because he considers him a boring boyscout and ridicules him in his stories as a puppet of the government... not wasted to deepen over the reasons of Superman, because he's not interested in making Superman likable . There is no interest for him, he only serves to motivate Bruce.

Snyder is the one that believes that two superheroes can not talk together for more than 30 seconds. Maybe he do not hates Superman mostly, but he certainly has an idea about these characters... rather ambiguous

>>82704266
Just because he does regurgitate the same deconstructed grim archetype that we've had shoved down our throats since the iron age doesn't mean he likes the character.

>>82701796
Obviously the script right? Same as you did with BvS and MoS.

>>82704699
Reminder that Superman is the reason Zod found Earth.

>>82697879
Because he hates us more than he hates DC.

Yes, Steve, he hates you most of all.

>>82705153
That would be Jor El's doing, not Superman's. You're blaming Superman simply for being born.

>>82704851
>Miller hates Superman

what is this new meme now

>>82697933
Alan Moore was good once upon a time. The same can't be said for "MUH BATRAPE ARTISTIC VISION"

>>82705204
Superman infiltrated the Kryptonian scout ship and activated it with the codex sending the signal that lured Zod

>>82704851
I wouldn't say Miller hates Superman at all, nor did he portray him as boring.

>>82697511
The funny thing about this statement, is that the original Thanos comic appearance is an admitted rip off of Darksied.
As in, the creator openly admitted he tok the idea and did his own take on it, lol. And now the movies are doing the opposite (only no one's admitting it).

Circle of life.

>>82705301
The codex was given to him by Jor El. It was Jor El's design to bring earth into the wider universe.

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>>82705103
Yes the script.

>>82697050
>not beliving in chariots of the gods shit
Fuck off killjoy skeptic bitch.

>>82696996
i have no problem with any of this, i doubt this is all there is to the story, this seems more like an outline.

>>82697182
they revived zod, didnt they?

>>82705713
It's a pretty stupid theory anon.

>>82705492
Darkseid AND Metron.

>movie doesn't have Superman
>it's a smashing hit
>convinces people even more that they don't need Superman as a character

pls Zack do it

>>82696996
>mother boxes

Infinity Stones again? Fuck off.

>>82706253
This senpai.

>>82706253

I can see this happening

>>82705407
>I wouldn't say Miller hates Superman at all,

Just google five sec.

>"DC All Access: So my big question is: do you hate Superman? "
>"Frank Miller: Of course, who wouldn't hate someone who could fly, someone who is just loved by everyone, was the handsomest guy who could get all the dates. Of course I went for the underdog who had a nasty streak to him and played a much nastier game than Superman."

It's not a boring Superman, it's mopre like a Ultimate Captain America. A rather extreme interpretation, but even his Batman was extreme.

Is 3 motherboxs really worth it

>>82706650
Kent, Wayne, who's the third marthabox?

>>82706512
Well it seems I stand corrected. I guess Miller just has more tact with writing characters he personally doesn't like than Snyder does, as I still think Superman in the Dark Knight Returns has a good portrayal even if he is the antagonist. He has a fully realized characterization and his conflict with Batman is nuanced and well founded.

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>>82696996
OH GOD IT'S PROMETHEUS WITH CAPES

>>82698881
Why doesn't he do that now with a Lazarus pit?

Bruce knows for a fact that if done correctly you don't actually go insane from using it.

>>82706970
It is a bullshit fake, but I'm still laughing at the scene of Batman decides to resurrect Superman, because he says so.

>>82707055
>Stage 1: Denial

>>82696996
Hold on. So wouldn't you actually PREVENT invasion if you just gave Darkseid the Motherboxes? Why would you defend them at the cost of human lives?

why didn't batman just throw more kryptonite gas and stab doomsday himself

>>82699473

It's precisely because the characters are known and famous that it is a lot harder to do movies with them. Everybody will lose their head for the characters not being how they think they should be.

>>82707192
he only had 3 gas grenades, he used 2 against Superman and the last one on doomsday at the end

Still haven't watched BvS, is it as bad as marveldrones and """critics"""" make it out to be?

Haven't watched Man of Steel either, so I have no point of reference. I also think Brava Nolan's trilogy was kind of bad and wouldn't watch it again of my own volition.

So, should I into BvS?

>>82707440
it's honestly the best movie that has come out this year

>>82706253
>>82706504
What a time to be alive.

>>82707500
The only films from MMXVI that I watched are
>Midnight special 9/10
>Deadpool 8.5/10
>The Witch 9/10
>The Green Room 9,5/10

I very much doubt it's better than any of them but I suppose I'll give it a shot. Should I also into Man of Shit?

>>82707440
Of course, this is a low quality bait.>>82707500

Seriously, the movie sucks, but introduces Affleck Batman, directing the next Bat movie himself, so it can be useful to get some ideas about this new Bruce Wayne.

>>82707735
Oh, I see. I doubt I'll watch live action capeshit ever again.
>MMXII
>be me
>still excited for capeshit
>watch TDKR and Captain America and Avengers in the space of a week
>I hated all 3

I think I made the right choice in hindsight

Why the fuck would they end BvS with Superman literally causing the ground to vibrate because he is awakening when the entire next movie will be about a team with no Superman??

>>82707440
As a hypercrisis cultist you should avoid the DCEU entirely unless you are wearing protective facepaint to ward against anti-life.