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>>82623403
Careful there, man. Jimmy the janitor hasn't had his didie changed yet.

Did I miss a thread?

The secret project is a TV show, we already knew that and this reveal just confirms it.

>>82623403
It's the TV show.

>>82623468
>>82623474
I think a TV show is still too ambitious at this stage. If it's anything like that, it'll probably just be a web series like CAD had.

>>82623486
It's people Dante Basco knew, I don't think he knows many web series people

does hussie even want to do this

>>82623403
Are we allowed to keep talking about the fucking comic now instead of the Freedom thread?

Also did the liveblogger hit cascade yet or what?

>>82623403
he held up his hand wrong, that motion can often mean "stop" or "back up" even if a horse isn't explicitly trained to learn that. people just naturally use their hands like that and horses pick up on it.

>>82623498
no

>>82623550
yes

>>82623498
Hussie is gone.

>>82623498
I think he wants to hang out at stables and pet horses

>>82623468
>>82623474
saying its a tv show doesnt even come close to telling us what we should expect. that could mean anything

>>82623590
Yeah even a TV show could just be, like, a documentary about the fandom or something.

>>82623611
Please no.
We were an awful fandom in our prime and nobody deserves to go through that.

My video is going to be a montage of Hussie making a series of bad decisions that lead to Act 7 being what it is, set to Eternity's Shylock. The Kickstarter and its constant failures and the scandal will be focal.

>>82623498
He's going to make a cartoon and be an even bigger hack than Alex Hirsch.

>>82623579
Maybe that's why he's doing all this. It's not for the money, it's for the horses.

>>82623664
Fuck off with that, it was no worse then any other medium to large fandom and the sort of shit that the fandom created was actually fucking astounding in its scope
If you want an awful fandom look at fucking bronys and bronycon

>>82623611
its just sex tapes of hussie fucking endless numbers of chubby jade cosplayers

>>82623611
Hussie's not going to TV producers for something that lame.

>>82623729
show me a hot chubby jade cosplayer

>>82623705
>Alex Hirsch makes the homestuck cartoon

>>82623403
This video is so fucking painful I can't actually watch it
Whats the gist?

>>82623759
i didnt say they were hot

>>82623731
but it would be fine for a web series
I wouldn't put it past Dante Basco to do something fandom-oriented

Assuming Homestuck 2.0 has the potential to not completely suck, what do you want to see?

Hopefully the secret project is a suicide cult.

>>82623762
TV couldn't handle that level of hackness.

>>82623769
Hussie tries to pet a horse, that's all you need to know

>>82623789
That already happened anon. It was called act 6.

>>82623780
i just want hiveswap. undertale has proven to me that a homestuck game can not only work but be excellent. if hiveswap is close to as good as undertale ill be a happy little man

>>82623498
What Hussie?

>>82623830
Part of the reason Undertale worked is because it didn't have baggage

The world and characters were all made around the game. There was no overaching "canon" to worry about. A Homestuck game cannot have that luxury.

>>82623780
Deepest lore.

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>Caliborn mastered animestuck
>Not satisfied with the haters
>Decides to take his genius to television audience with homostuck 2.0

>>82623780
Cute character interactions and Hussie actually talking to his audience once or twice

>>82623830
It's a point and click adventure game, and if you think that's the bad part then you are an example of what ruined the fandom.

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>>82623897

name a more OP combination than Heir of Hope

>>82623949
Rouge of Void

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>>82623897
>>82623914

>Tv series has an ACT 7 esque reaction with its ending as well
>Caliborn still pissed
>Goes another step further and makes Homostuck 3.0 The Movie
>Then suddenly SBaHJ the movie

>>82623870
that just makes things harder, it doesnt make things impossible. im not anticipating hiveswap being quite as unexpectedly good as undertale was but its got plenty of potential to be fun.

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>>82623673
thanks, you reminded me to do this

>>82623949
Theif of light

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Can I watch cascade now?

>>82623949
Lord of Hope

>>82624022
You haven't done it yet? Dude get on that shit

>>82624022
Only if you have your anal beads in

>>82623912
what are you even saying i cant decode this fucking code

>>82624022
do it

GET READY FOR THE RIDE

also if you get confused there's a recap that explains it relatively soon (like act 1 length) after

>>82624022
its pretty long if youd started watching it before you coulda come back in time for this thread

>>82624131
Or I'd come back and threads are still gone
Slow and steady wins the race

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Time to leave this board forever.

>>82624131
It's hard to believe that Cascade is shorter than Collide. It feels so much longer, especially when it first dropped.

>>82624166
Just take screencaps as you watch it and do that whole recap thing

>>82624022
To get the genuine experience you have to wait several hours for Hussie to find a hosting solution that will work.

>>82624166
Are you going to take some screen caps throughout the flash and post them along with your thoughts or are you going to make one big post after you finish?

why Sylph as a class?

>>82624202
kek

>>82624022
To explain: when Cascade came out, the hype was so massive it DDOSed MSPA's servers. It also DDOSed Newgrounds, where the animation was being hosted. Andrew decided to upload it to MegaUpload (remember MegaUpload?)... and that went down too. I stayed up waiting for it, and I didn't get to see it until the next day. I have never, never, never been as hyped for anything before or since.

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>>82624202
>>82624262
>tfw got to the megaupload before it crashed
That was a good day

>>82624259
I'm not sure of the exact question here.

>>82624262
I was hyped for Act 7.
;_;

>>82624262
>meanwhile collide and act 7 produced absolutely no server load
sad

>>82624262
The thing you've got to remember about Cascade is that there was a two month hiatus beforehand. At the time, that was so unheard of that it drove the entire fanbase insane. Completely insane.

If only we had known.

>>82624185
i think thats cos collide is a youtube video so you can hop around and navigate it more easily. makes it seem smaller in comparison. also its a lot less dense than cascade - a lot of time is filled with jokes and fun stuff whereas cascade is a fucking BLOCK of plot

>>82624259
Why the fuck not?

>>82624320
I mean even if they did, it's not like YouTube is gonna go down

>>82624309
Sylph is a class in Homestuck
but Sylph isn't a class, it's a type of fairy
Sylph being a class would be liking calling dog a class

>>82624185
Nothing fucking happens in Collide until the last five minutes or so

Everything before that is just sprites banging against each other and drawings that are meant to represent the sprites banging on each other

Cascade has a massive amount of shit going down

>>82624372
in 1st edition D&D "elf" and "halfling" are classes

>>82624372
Is heir a class? Is prince? Is captchalogue a word? There are like 600 other words you could make this argument about. Hussie likes to use weird names for things.

Post your epilogue ideas!

>all the disgusting cis hetero shit pairings happen in the dreambubbles
>the kids attend Jack Noir and Ms Paint's marriage
>Dave finally confesses his love to Karkat and they kiss each other
>Jade, Jake, Dirk and Jane play soccer
>Terezi sees a light in the end and the epilogue ends

>>82624372
This is pedantic as all hell. When has the classpect system ever been orthodox?

>>82624406
Heir or Prince still make more since, since they're a type of person. Sylph isn't.

>>82624372
Or elf a class? Or vampire a class?

A class can be whatever you want. If it really bugs you, think of it as 'someone who acts like a sylph'

>>82624416
>and they kiss each other
You're aiming too low. Graphic sex scene or go home.

>>82624372
WITCH IS CLASS
WITCH ISNT CLASS, TYPE OF HALLOWEED MONSTER
WHICH BIENG CLASS IS LIKE HAN SOLO BEING A CLASS
UNGA BUNGA

>>82624426
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sylph

noun
1.
a slender, graceful woman or girl.


Just to hammer the point that everyone else is making home.

>>82624396
i dont know how youve managed to make collide sound bad. be real with yourself collide is fucking hype. pure joy and adrenaline non-stop for 18 minutes.

>>82624513
I admit defeat

>>82624523
yeah but it's like a popcorn action flick
just a lot of fight scenes and not much substance

>>82624185
[S] Enter felt like it had more things going on than Collide.

>>82623949
Page of Hope

>>82624523
I made it sound bad because, except for the Heir of Grief section, it was. It was overlong and pointless.

(The Heir of Grief part was god-tier though)

>>82624513
>kanaya
>aranea
>graceful
I guess some roles are meant to be a challange

>>82624570
It did. It was much shorter, but far more actually important shit went down.

>>82624523
The only cool thing about Collide is Fraymotifs.

Collide is objectively the worst flash because Spades Slick dies.

>>82624590
Aranea's thighs are graceful, Anon!

>>82624583
so was Cascade
>10 minutes doing close ups on people and showing stuff that already happened

>>82624513
well then, very unconventional, and i haven't heard of what a sylph is until homestuck, but well then

>>82624570
>>82624616
Hussie's use of the flashes early on in homestuck felt very calculated, like he was maximizing plot progression as much as possible in a short animation. WV: Ascend is like that too.

Who else is excited for Nepetaquest 2018?

>>82624523
It would be but the art was distractingly cartoony and aside from fraymotifs and the Felt battle the fights dragged on too long with not much visual appeal and the enemies, who were built up as having all sorts of invincibility and had demonstrated much more menace in the past, felt incredibly depowered.

Also Slick died. Fuck that.

>>82624622
Cascade, off the top of my head:
>Jade goes god-tier
>WQ, WK, and AR die
>WV gets impaled
>We see how Jack got to the trolls' session
>Slick shoots Snowman
>The Tumor CREATES the Green Sun instead of destroying it
>Dave and Rose go god-tier
>First face-to-face in-the-flesh meeting between kids and trolls
>Bunny subplot ends


Collide:
>All the villains die, except LE, who gets no resolution whatsoever, the Felt, who just get beat up or hogtied, and DD, who is forgotten about
>Spades Slick (who is not a villain, as he did nothing wrong) also dies
>Dirk dies, but this has no weight since we know he'll be instantly revived (and he is)
>Blatant Undertale references
>Things go just according to keikaku

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>>82624022
HOLY SHIT
O
L
Y
S
H
I
T

Is liveblogger-chan there or did she die from hype overdose

>>82624767
oh

>>82624767
ALSO READ WATCH THE NEXT FLASH (It's in the next page)

Who were the most useless assholes in Collide?

Haven't been in the threads in a while, good job not getting b& by the way, what's with this Homestuck 2.0 talk?

>>82624767
Did you enjoy the climax of Homestuck? (There is actually half the comic left)

>>82624767
Stop reading and make up your own ending. This is not a drill. I'm not rusing or memeing or whatever. It's all downhill from here.

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>>82624767
i know, my dick was hard too

>>82624767
WATCH THE NEXT FLASH IT'S PART OF IT

>>82624416
The dreambubbles from the multi session pile up that is Homestuck have been destroyed.

Everyone involved in the resolution of the Lord English fight is kill, except maybe Aradia absconded ahead of time to get Sollux to safety then watch the finale.

Jake and friends reconciliation.

Story time format (like the stuff in the Calliope bubble) about what happened in the final battle against Lord English, including how the masterpiece fits in.

Some simple stuff like the four beta kids actually hanging out in person together, and Kanaya and Karkat finding a good home for the matriorb.

Show if Terezi and the sprites are in the new universe.

>>82624568
i agree but still think thats totally fine

>>82624583
are you saying you didnt enjoy oppa toby style. i dont know how to explain the taste of someone who doesnt think a totally unexpected sprite battle full of jokes and references along to all the themes of homestuck played at lightspeed isnt the single best possible way to remind us how much fun this comic was at its best

>>82624795
kanaya. hussie. vriska

>>82624767
Congratulations! You have just finished the last good page of Homestuck. You are now halfway done!

>>82624851
No, I didn't, because it wasn't nearly as visually interesting as, say, the Bro vs. Dave battles all the way back in Act 3 and it went on for way too long.

>>82624886
>last good page of Homestuck
>penis ouija exists

>>82624906
Fair enough. Penis Ouija may have been retconned out of the timeline, but it lives on in our hearts.

>>82624854
>Hussie
>useless

He stopped Vriska from stealing the spotlight.

I just want Homestuck to be over
I want Hussie to be free

>>82624925
than just vriska and kanaya. kanaya was literally a useless lesbian. she didn't even get to use a fraymotive with her matesprit or anyone else

>>82624949
Fuck Hussie. He made his bed and he can lie in it.

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Hussie suicide when?

>>82624952
She was punching Condy. That was cool.

>Homestuck 2.0
OH BOY, I JUST MADE THE CONNECTION. THE ANIME, THE SHITTY GAINAX ENDING.

ARE YOU PEOPLE READY FOR REBUILD OF HOMESTUCK 2.0 THIS IS (NOT) A WASTE OF TIME?

>>82624805
Fuck you act six was good

>>82624767
real talk even though there are some mistakes in the second half of the comic theres a lot of seriously excellent stuff so dont take /nothsg/ TOO serious

you havent even met the confirmed best girl of homestuck yet, you have a lot of great stuff to go

>>82625059
Everything that wasnt Caliborn was trash and Calliope is the worst character in all of Homestuck
Yes, worse than Tavros

>>82624767
Now Jade really is a furry

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im still fucking baffled by this. exactly who thought homestuck2.0 was a good idea?

remember when Jake was Jade's pen pal and never had one actual conversation with her?

I still tear up every time Jade goes god tier in Cascade.

>>82625039
HS 2.0 may be relying on audience prompts, but don't kid yourself that it will be anything approaching good. Dante has essentially just advertised that we're never getting MS Paint Adventures with Hussie at the wheel again. It's all youtube branded clickbait and teen pandering to the end of time.

>>82625144
Remember when the kids finally got to talk toghether and pose as a team?

ME NEITHER

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>>82624767
Since the combined is to big
Goin Right to left

>I’m so glad my precious son looks like a fucking Badass, god Bless John. I am so so proud of him RN
>RIP CD
>The fact jack can just fucking murder a universe is like the highest fucking stakes possible holy shit
>I don’t remember if the king coming back was important or if CotL was part of some timetravel bullshit, but its still a really nice mome-oh wait nevermind
>Oh god AR couldn’t do it because of WV FUCK
>THE URANIUM DAMMIT
>I can't beleive Rose and Dave are actually about to die god this fucking sucks they don't even have
>HAHAA GET YEAS
>If you pull the pin the universe dies; Holy shit I totally forgot about that
>Man these two had a rough fucking deal. But its kind of touching seeing them kind of embrace the end like this

>>82625118
roxy

>>82625144
>remember when Jake was Jade's pen pal and never had one actual conversation with her?
No, but now I do. I guess Hussie forgot too. Although he basically forgot to do anything with Jake other than make him a Tavros tier Vriska target, and have nobody give a shit about her treatment of him.

>>82625168
Also, remember Doc Scratch's words, "A war of one bullet fired"

>>82625039
You Can (Not) Update

>>82625168
>The fact jack can just fucking murder a universe is like the highest fucking stakes possible holy shit
Brace yourself for it not fucking matternig

>>82625118
I felt my tastes get worse just reading that

>>82624805
>Penis ouija
>downhill

>I WILL HAVE. MY POUND OF SMUT.
>downhill

>Dirk: Synchronize
>downhill

>Mituna
>downhill

>AND BEAR IN MIND, ONE TIME MY LEG WAS BITTEN OFF. AND I TRAGICALLY LOST A SISTER TO MURDER
>downhill

>Roxy
>downhill

>Cherub chess
>downhill

>Dirk and AR and their interactions over Jake
>downhill

>Death of the hegemonic brute
>downhill

>leprechaun shipping
>downhill

>Tavros dance
>downhill

granted a lot of it is shitty, but act 6 has a lot of gold.

>>82625168
How did you react when the screen expanded during the Red Miles part? I nearly started screaming.

Do you guys think that when John finally saw his first-born and saw it was a girl he immediatly re-enacted the bunny scene from Con-Air tearing up?

>>82625168
>The fact jack can just fucking murder a universe is like the highest fucking stakes possible holy shit
I honestly didn't even consider that, there was basically no reason for Lord English to exist.

Except for the fact we got Caliborn.

>>82625118
Neither Tavros nor Calliope come close to being the worst characters, if you really think they're the worst then I don't even want to know who you think is the best.

>>82623403
>Homestuck 2.0 was officially announced today
FUCKING WHY?

>>82625230
No I think his first born was a boy and he murdered it.

>>82625230
I'm still upset that the only Con Air reference near the end was a hummingbird.

>>82625168
>But its kind of touching seeing them kind of embrace the end like this
Oh man, I can't wait till you see where Davesprite ends up.

>>82625215
holy fuck, the fucking gay leprechaun shit. i cant believe i forgot that. what a fucking masterstroke

>>82625259
Why would he murder him? Is his gaydar that powerful?

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>>82625168
Also when did john make that hammer? was it with vriska's code?
>OH SHIT I CALLED IT NICE
>They fucking hugged it out here and nothing you say will convince me otherwise
>Nice Jade didn't forget the choice
>Fucking clown and the fucking puppet god damn they got played like a fiddle
>Blind girl thinks she knows what to look for. I love joke like these
>YES
>FUCKING HELL YES
>PM is fucking pissed / That mailwoman is gonna murder that fucking dog
>JADES SCREEN SHIT I FORGOT DAMMIT
>What a fucking ride god dammit I can't believe I ever doubted
>>82625228
I lost my shit brah

>>82625259
talking about john, not rose

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>>82625168
It might not be quite the experience of seeing it happen live but it'll have to do

The HS cascade threads were the fastest threads ive seen on 4chan barring stickies

>>82625250
They're pretty bad, who is the worst?

>>82625259
Yeah, obviously John has to eat all of his children so they can never supplant him.

>>82625259
Nah he'd still attempt to recreate it but not yielding the same effect

>>82625168
>>82625211
>>82625242
The only reason Jack could murder a universe was because he could access the session where its frog was created. For all we know, John could have done the same thing by smashing the frog with his hammer.

I'm not saying it wasn't terrifying, but it's kind of a really niche case.

>>82625287

>They fucked here and nothing you say will convince me otherwise

fixed that one for ya

>>82625287
WATCH THE NEXT FLASH IT'S ESSENTIALLY PART 2 OF CASCADE.
IT'S IN TWO PAGES DON'T WORRY.

>>82625287
>>They fucking hugged it out here and nothing you say will convince me otherwise
Reminds me of a porn picture someone posted here last thread of Rose and Dave fucking on that slab before the Tumor exploded

>>82624952
>Kanaya
>useless

Karkat exists.

>>82625287
>Also when did john make that hammer
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005577

>>82625287
>>82625168
By the way, in case you missed it (I did in the first viewing).

The Tumor didn't destroy the Green Sun, it's created it. Kanaya said that the mass of the Green Sun is twice the mass of the universe, and the Tumor contained two universes.

>>82625287
>Also when did john make that hammer? was it with vriska's code?
offscreen, but yes

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>>82625180
Whilst Jake himself didn't have much influence, and was primarily used as a narrative prop by other characters, there was an interesting concept developed through him. Namely, that some people just aren't that good around people, they flourish when left to their own devices even if those surrounding them have the best of intentions -though in this case they didn't.

However, there was no closure on this storyline given that in the finale we just see Jake seemingly reconciled with Dirk, who was one of the primary issues he had in dealing with others. Just another disappointment to add to the pile.

is that guy actually a cripple or are they doing a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA9uy3KdeEU&t=1m8s
Did Bowman call Homestuck 2.0?

>>82625371
What if Jake in a solo session?

>>82625374
Dante crippled with just for the bit.

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When Andrew decide irony was ok?

>>82625351
he means vriskafucker not zillyhoo

>>82625302
Most of the Dancestors, with Kankri, Cronus, and probably Rufioh at the very bottom. Vriska and Gamzee are pretty garbage and Feferi was certainly worse than Tavros, even if her stint was shorter. I personally rank Nepeta below Tavros but that's just me. Jake singlehandedly ruined the appeal of the Alpha session. Davepeta and Jasprosesprite^2 are abominations against man and God. Hussie's self insert also got really obnoxious.

Basically, a ton of characters. Incidentally, Calliope's the co-best at her worst.

>>82625364
I'm glad I wasn't the only person who didn't understand this at first. I had to read Hussie's formspring answers to realize that.

>>82625387
He's a Page, so he'd get fucking destroyed/run out of time before he got to his full potential.

>>82625427
Is that one of those characters who didn't do anything at the end and didn't get any closure?

>>82625445
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>>82624262
Every day I wish the hiatus had never happened and HS had maintained that level of hype all the way to the end.

Why'd you do the kickstarter, huss, why

>>82625228
>>82625287
I still remember how blown my mind was, four and a half years ago

>>82625425
i dont think one single person has ever worked it out just from watching cascade, even though its supposed to be a HUGE twist. its a massive flaw that no one acknowledges.

>>82625414
every dancestor that isn't aranea and meenah are gags and shouldn't even be considered characters

>>82625287
>>What a fucking ride god dammit I can't believe I ever doubted
You will eat those words

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>>82625351
Thats clearly a different hammer
>>82625287
I can't believe Gamzee is going to be the final boss

>>82625473
I figured it immediately, and thought my friend was an idiot for needing it to be explained
it was only years later i found out a whole lot of people miss that detail

>>82625473
There were a lot of things I was confused about in Cascade but the Green Sun wasn't one of them. "Suckers" + ominous music + big green sphere, seemed pretty straightforward to me

>>82625414
Calliope is stale white bread, or some kind of tasteless porridge.

>>82625499
man this is just gonna be so depressing to witness

>>82625499
RRr...ruse?

>>82625484
True, but Mituna was a great gag. And... I think that's it. The rest were total throw-aways. The best I can say is that Porrim is pretty.

>>82625507
Calliope is like the cherub equivalent of breakfast cereal, which is to say sparkling and weirdly alien and full of bones.

???

why did the horrorterrors guide Rose and Dave to create the green sun if they were afraid of English

>>82625394
He was always ironic.

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What did she mean by this?

>>82625468
The kickstarter really did fuck everything up.

>>82625536
He's joking

>>82625499
>>82625499
Again, if you didn't notice, the code for creating Doc Scratch was
>t1CK T0ck
>8r8k H43DS
>honk HONK
What happened in this flash? :^)

>>82625562
I honestly think it literally didn't mean anything, it was just inserted in there so the tweenbabbies who "identify" with the characters have another facet to latch onto. As soon as he posted that updated then thousand angsty pimply kids with blue hair nodded in sage understanding and said "wow she's just like me, huss is right i DON'T need him!"

>>82625550
Maybe they didn't know the Tumor would create the Sun, and thought it would destroy it like the kids did.
Was it ever said that the horrorterrors were omniscient, even on the level of Doc Scratch?

>>82625394
when andrew hussie was born he fucking cried ironically

>>82625468
>Ideal universe: Hussie kept updating Homestuck and finished it before announcing the Kickstarter
>Acceptable universe: Hussie put all the Kickstarter money in a locked bank account and didn't start producing the game until Homestuck was finished
>Our universe: Hussie tried to do both at once and they both got fumbled, rushed, delayed, and turned out sloppy and unfinished

>>82625364
That seemed pretty obvious given we see it form right after the bomb went off and then Dave & Rose rising out of it
>>82625499
I am maxium fucking hype right now
Like the same level of hype I was at the end of 4, like I wanna finish the whole fucking thing tonight.
Fuck Cascade was so good, all the little plot points I was wondering about all got wrapped up all nice man I can't beleive I consider dropping it at any point

>>82625546
Being an alien doesn't make you interesting when you have the blandest personality.

>>82625499
(That was the Yellow Yard Hussie was talking about)

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>>82625563
Let it serve as a lesson
If you make something wildly successful, actually finish the primary product BEFORE you try and cash in on that success
Especially if that product is something as insanely ambitious as Homestuck was in it's prime

>>82625499
Hey, you get some pretty entertaining roboHussie shenanigans coming up fairly soon.

>>82625599
Stop, you're opening up the wounds again

>>82625586
>update ten*
man typos always take the zing out of some sick burns

>>82625599
>Like the same level of hype I was at the end of 4, like I wanna finish the whole fucking thing tonight.
And just like the beginning of Act 5, you're about to go to bed.

>>82625599
>Finish the whole thing tonight
You are literally before the halfway point.

Just stop for now and start Act 6 tomorrow

>>82625599
>>82625621
kek

>>82625599
Btw, you're at the exact half-way point.

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>>82625215
>AND BEAR IN MIND, ONE TIME MY LEG WAS BITTEN OFF. AND I TRAGICALLY LOST A SISTER TO MURDER

>>82625605
Maybe Hussie knew that Homestuck wouldn't be as popular when it ended as it would be after Act 5. Or maybe Homestuck would have been, if it hadn't taken so long to wrap up.

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>>82625599
>I wanna finish the whole fucking thing tonight.

>>82625599
Ladies and gentlemen, we are about to witness someone's hope die in real time.

>>82625592
>Ideal universe: Hussie never did a kickstarter at all.
Kickstarters ruin lives. This is a fact. It's not just that the KS delayed HS, it emotionally changed him into the wreck he is today and soured everything that came after.
Kickstarters are a recipe for disaster even when people go into them with the best of intentions.

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>>82625663
Why do you think we are here?

>>82625676
Undertale turned out alright

>>82625600
I don't agree that she does, though. Nice doesn't inherently mean bland and she has a modest share of enjoyable personality quirks.

>>82625621
The start of Act 6 was great though

>>82625599
You have no reason whatsoever to be hype because you've literally just watched the highest point of the story and everything (everything) that comes after gets progressively worse. And by worse I mean dull, trite, nonsensical, boring, and irrelevant.

>>82625605
That really depends on how you're cashing in

The real lesson is when your momentum is largely based around you keeping the ball rolling by working on it all the time don't take on another project

>>82625654
Even if he was thinking that, it ended up being a self-fulfilling prophecy because he overloaded himself with bullshit he couldn't handle

If he had maintained the quality and volume of updates he'd been doing beforehand, Homestuck would have maintained it's popularity and he could have announced the kickstarter when the ending was in sight, instead of when he did.
Unfortunately Hussie is not a clever man. I also wonder sometimes if someone else maybe pressured him into doing the kickstarter.

>>82625663
Act 6 doesn't get bad that fast, it's a gradual process.

>>82625707
I wish she will survive to reach Caliborn.

>>82625686
>Nice doesn't inherently mean bland and she has a modest share of enjoyable personality quirks.
tfw Hussie literally killed off Feferi so she wouldn't steal Calliope's "nice" spotlight

>>82625599
>>82625621
>>82625657
>>82625663
>>82625623
>>82625623
>>82625632
>>82625642
I don't give a shit if it is the halfway point, I'm finishing this cocksucker
How can you fucks keep saying this after cascade, I am convinced its just some comic injoke I don't get yet and I am more bitter for it
I am going to see these kids meetup and kick Jack's ass tonight so fucking help me

>>82625686
hey im not a huge calliope hater but i found her totally bland and pure niceness with nothing else. what are her quirks that you enjoy?

>>82625676
Undertale and Shovel Knight thrived off of KS, the real issue is that Huss did it while he was still doing the comic.

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>>82625599
this hurts so much to read, because that literally how we felt before act 6 started.

>>82625686
>The start of Act 6 was great though
Yeah but it's not exactly conducive to carrying the hype from Cascade. It's like starting over in terms of hype building. Like if Cascade was the climax of that story pyramid, we just dropped back down to the base.

>>82625676
The kickstarter itself didn't delay HS, it was The Odd Gentlemen fiasco where he handed responsibility to them and they did fucking nothing and ignored all communication. He had to stop the comic so he could move house and go live on their front doorstep so he could get an answer about the game progress.

If he'd finished Homestuck, then by all accounts he would have produced the game himself, in-basement, with help from his friends, not a company who saw 2.4 million reasons to try and fleece an inexperienced idealistic creator.

>>82625732
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>82625732
It's not an inside joke.
Jokes have to be funny.

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>>82625732
Well just fuck me then

>>82625732
Stop it, you're literally shattering my soul

>>82625732
>I am going to see these kids meetup and kick Jack's ass tonight so fucking help me
I think you're actually fucking with us at this point

>>82625734
She was blatantly writing and drawing romance and even sexual fanfic of her alien friends. I can only imagine the weird snake dick orgies she scrawlde out.

>>82625768
Oh yeah have fun playing her stupid as shit click adventure minigame. Can you solve the mystery of the fucking hot air balloons or whatever the fuck

>>82625732
>>82625768
yeeeeeeeeeeep

>>82625732
you wont see shit from the kids for a while
half of act 6 is basically a spin off season
or another comic altogether
the more you realize this the less you will hate act 6 for being a spinoff

>>82625732
I actually feel bad for you. And I'm one of the people who will defend Act 6, at least up until the retcon.
If you really want to know what happens to Jack, he gets his arm cut off at the end of Act 6 by PM, but is otherwise alive.

>>82625721
Act 6 jumps headfirst into romantic bullshit featuring characters that have barely been introduced, it definitely does get bad that fast.

>>82625768
Kek, this is funnier than your reaction to Hivebent.

See you in a week

>>82625732
>I am going to see these kids meetup and kick Jack's ass tonight so fucking help me
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>82625777
R U S E
U S E R
S E R U
E R U S

Did he honestly try to high five the horse there?

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>>82625732
sigh, im screencapping this as a reminder to hussie to never do a kickstarter ever again

>>82625768
YOU THOUGHT WE WERE JOKING

BUT YOU WERE WRONG

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>>82625791

>hating on myststuck

I forget because this shit has rotted my brain, is she before or after the point where she has to sit through hours upon hours of the alt-universe trolls being gigantic irrelevant douchebags?

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>>82625791
Wanna know how to solve the mystery??

==>

>>82625686
Like what? Being an alien? FUCK! You're too easy. You don't have to think a character is DA BEST!!! just because they feature your fetishes. You're like that one furry who thinks Fifi La Fume is the best character ever made.

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>>82625732
I mean, no one is going to stop you, but you're about to charge head first into a narrative swamp after one of the absolute peaks of the comic.

I think most of us are just remembering painful memories, Act 6 has some real high point, but it's wrapped up in a lot of things I imagine you won't enjoy one bit, one big moment in particular. Still, all the best to you, I've enjoyed the heck out of your journey so far.

>>82625838
long before

>>82625838
Before

If she makes it that far I'll be surprised

I have no expectation she'll make it past that

>>82625768
Act 6 is a lot better than you give it credit for, but you need to understand it's like moving into Season 2 (or maybe 3 would be more accurate) of a show. We're building up again, just like when Hivebent started. But there's still a lot of good shit coming. Not all of it is good, but enough of it.

>>82625768
act 6 is extremely fun that eventually leads no where, try to enjoy it while you can because there is some definite really good stuff in there

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>>82625768
Like okay I get it the scratch reset thing and we see all the guardians as players instead of the kids like the troll ancestor shit
But holy shit this completely kills the pacing, we just saw a major fucking Victory for the Kids plus setup for a presumably endgame boss who hasn't been seen for half the fucking comic yet and instead of taking that momentum and carrying it through by seeing everyone we already fucking know acknowledging and setting the stage for the new group we just get thrust right into it again with no room to acclimatize
What a fucking pacing killer, god fucking dammit I want to read the fucking story I'm already invested in not have a 3rd fucking retread
Fuck it I am just going to sleep

>>82625768
For a while, you're going to be treating every glimpse you get at the original kids as a kind of lifeboat.

Too late, you'll realize the boat had been sinking all along.

The ending chunks of the comic had problems, but I feel like a lot (not all, or even half) is from the huge delay, in a "all this time and THIS is what we get?" kind of way.

>>82625768
its good! act 6 is really good for a really long time, and has some of the best funniest parts of the whole comic in it. there are mistakes but god you made it through a5a1. by now you are aware this comic is a fucking mess.

>>82625732
>>82625768
Someone screencap this for prosperity, just like the last one. You're a blast liveblogger, you make me feel like I'm reading it all over again.

Remember when people thought Jane would be waifu material?

>>82625884
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>82625897
more like "after all this time i stopped caring, but you still managed to disappoint me"

>>82625884
>But holy shit this completely kills the pacing
You haven't seen dead yet. Just try to connect with the characters, that's the only thing which will get you through what's to come.

>>82625897
That and the fact that Hussie forgot how to write his own characters. You can tell after each pause when all the dialogue would be really stilted. Then it would start to get better again until there was another pause.
By the last pause I think Hussie just gave up and stopped writing dialogue.

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One thing I appreciate about Homestuck's art (I was gonna say early Homestuck art, but I recall this shit in even Act 6, the first thing that comes to mind is Caliborn's screen tower) is the awesome blend of taking random real life photos from google images and mixing it in an interesting way with Hussie's drawings. There's just something I liked about it, even the small things like seeing Dave and Bro fight with the katanas that were half photo and half drawing. It was just such a cool aesthetic. I don't know where I was going with this, it was longwinded and rambling but I really liked it. Hussie took some picture of probably like, a construction site or abandoned factory and made it into a scene on a outlandish steel/lava planet.

>>82625884
>this completely kills the pacing
The pacing will only get deader from here, my friend

We haven't lied to or rused you about a single thing.

>>82625884
Goodnight, dear sweet precious liveblogger. We tried to break your spirit as early as possible in the hopes it would save you from feeling too strongly about the flaws in Homestuck, but you were too pure and resilient. I think the ride is worth it in the end.

>>82625851
what's the one big moment in particular

>>82625884
Wait till you get to Dave's bro, he's so fucking cool!! you won't believe how cool and gay he is

yes Dirk does ultimately become somewhat likeable but only because Hussie spends literally ALL his pacing budget building up just this one character for months/years instead of actually continuing the fucking story he started

>>82625884
Wait, you figure that the kids and guardians swapped already? It took me a while to figure that out, maybe I'm just stupid

>>82623729

>jade
>not vriska

Clearly you didn't read the fucking comic

>>82625960
>maybe

>>82625950
synchronize and unite are good flashes that wrap up the entry of the alpha kids before it becomes pure drama

>>82625960
he figured out jade's penpal, so she had the idea in her mind already

>>82625960
It's explained in the scratch intermission
but yeah, she's definitely following this a lot better than I did reading it serially

>>82625960
>>82625960
Are you trolling? Doc Scratch literally explains what the Scratch is before Cascade.

>>82625950
Either the trickster arc or the entire clusterfuck that is the retcon and subsequent conclusion of Act 6.

Jack should have stayed the main villain. Yeah, Lord English was cool, his entrance was great and all, but we didn't really seem him do shit aside from kill off some joke characters, which let's be fair, is something that we should be grateful of.

Jack, instead we saw grow as a villain. We saw his reasons, his uprising, all his versions, his personality, and most important of all, his misdeeds. He just fucking slaughtered millions, and we saw his ascension into a more powerful entity, up to the point of blowing up the fucking universe. He killed the kids parents, he fucked up their session (AND the trolls' session too). He was the villain of the kids, but nope this skull douche that blows up ghosts is the real villain, go kill him instead while jack gets dealt with by some other character :^)

>>82625960
>we see all the guardians as players instead of the kids like the troll ancestor shit
>he didn't read all the ancestor logs
It was pretty cut and dry to be honest

>>82625996
Shit. It took me until Rose explained it to actually get it.

>>82626001
I'd always thought his death was required to win the game

>>82625732
Don't listen to these people. Act 6 is slower paced. There is some understandable criticism of act 6, but it is good. I think the most important thing to understand with this comic is that it is constantly re-evaluating what it is. It changes tone and priorities somewhat and a lot of people felt offended by that, but if you can get over that I think you'll find the same overall level of quality.

>>82626018
There's a decent chance you might actually be retarded then, since that isn't till A6I2.

>>82625960
eheh i figured that out the moment doc scratch talked about the troll ancestors swapping places when they scratched. immediately i was gearing up for a total reset of everything with the guardians as kids.

>>82626001
>nope this skull douche that blows up ghosts is the real villain
God that's so underwhelming too, the comic even goes out of its way to remind you that all the ghosts LE is blowing up are just irrelevant useless comic relief nobodies. Hell we care less about all these ghost clones of the main characters than we do about random unnamed chess people and salamanders.

>>82625931
His writing style also reflected that talent, he'd take user submitted suggestions and work them into the story in really creative and funny ways. I'll be so sad if we never see more of that unique type of artstyle, I genuinely missed his usual style as Act 6 drew closer to its conclusion.

>>82625884
Seems kind of strange that you'd figure that out in like two panels. Like that's all it took to kill all the hype that Cascade built up.

>>82625950
Retcon for sure, given it completely shits over the original characters to the point that some of them are nearly completely different characters.

>>82626001
>No Lord English
>Everyone enters the B2 session much earlier, no three years for the B1 kids or all those months for the B2 kids
>Everyone faces their denizen, and does what they need to do to beat the game
>The kids and trolls all stand together to defeat the omnipotent Bec Noir

>>82626031
All you need is the king and queen's rings. Naturally, they'll fight you to death for them.

>>82626001
lord english wasnt even the real final boss, the condesce was. lord english was the weird secret boss that you dont fight in a normal playthrough.

>>82626036
Well, I thought Dirk might somehow be bro when he was introduced but I wasn't entirely sure

>>82626034
>he was trying something different!
>he took it in a new direction!
>if you don't like it, it must have offended you!
>that means it did something right!
Only thing I'm "offended" by is the smell of the dog shit it turned into

>>82626087
I'm not saying Lord English shouldn't have happened, he's cool, but shouldn't have been the main villain, if he hasn't even done anything to the kids.

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>IT'S BAD FORM TO LEAVE STRAY NOIRS WANDERING AROUND.

>>82625734
She's an artist/writer with a particular sense of style, she's kind of cocky and impatient, she's a nerd about story telling and lore, she loves magic and gameplaying, and she's a cute sort of faux-British.

And there's just a way about her that I enjoy. Like, I feel like if I list her positive traits people will just hold that against her as a character, but there's something to be said for someone who's polite and charming and friendly. And I enjoyed seeing how she faced her tragedies of fear and loneliness.

>>82625843
Chill. I enjoy her alien nature but I hardly have a specific thing for aliens. Beside Caliborn and Calliope the only alien who makes my list of fictional crushes is Commander Peepers.

>>82625910
I thought that back when she was just young Nanna.

>>82626116
why is he suddenly supposed to be so sympathetic after murdering an entire universe

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>>82626100

>>82626131
ULTIMATE SELF

>>82626087
But that wouldn't have undermined the narrative!

and what's the point of telling a story if you can't crawl up your own ass and die about how much you don't want to tell a fucking story.

>>82626129
Calliope was the key to all of this. Cause she's a.. funnier character than we've ever had.

>>82626099
Jack was the final boss of the B1 session, Condy was the final boss of the B2 session, and LE was the final boss of the whole ABC multiuniverse pile up.

>>82626062
>people constantly spamming "it all goes downhill right here right now act 6 kills all the momentum in the comic stop reading after Cascade the hype is destroyed" at them
>"BIZARRE HOW YOU'D ASSUME THE MOMENTUM IS LOST... ALMOST LIKE YOU KNEW ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND..."

>>82626153
What are you trying to say, I can't tell at all

So... where did the cueballs come from?

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>>82625910

I continue to think that and you can't stop me.

>>82626141
Cmon, man, like you've never missed something obvious in a story before

>>82626149
Are any of Jack Noir's alternate selves not murderous psychopaths? They might be different in what the achieved and the level of slaughter they were able to carry out, but even Spades Slick was a violent gangster who stabbed first, and he was by far the most sympathetic incarnation of Jack.

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>>82626055
The best way I can sum it up is Andrew Hussie was good at scavenging. Whether it was seemingly useless images and incorporating them into a whole, cohesive pictures, or taking what seemed to be insignificant plot points or fan ideas and spinning them into something much bigger.

Like, seriously, look at that map in the sky, and the glowing compasses scattered about. You'd think those would look jarring, but it manages to work seamlessly in the landscape. I mean, look at that water. I hadn't even realized it was a photo with ripples drawn in to account for the rock formations, it just worked so well.

I guess it's why I disliked a lot of the super polished art team contributions over the years, especially near the end. They were certainly great, and no insult to the talented artists, but it just didn't seem like MSPaint Adventures.

>>82626129
A particularly shitty sense of style, yeah.

>>82626131
It's honestly one of the most baffling decisions about the end of Homestuck.

>>82626062
It happened with act 5
I'm sure someones got the screencap of their reaction to that too

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>>82626112
Plenty of things were done to them in his name though, even if it was all pretty nebulous, impersonal and already fated.

>>82626195
Jacks are by nature dangerous, murderous, psychopaths, but can play nice depending of the situation. They're the wildcards of Sburb, and you can either kill them to avoid a mess, or team up with them, or prototype all the wrong shit to piss him off, overthrow the king and queen and have him destroy the fucking universe.

The possibilities are truly endless!

>>82626186
An omniscient cueball is an important component to the god tier clock's judgment, so it can only be assumed that cueballs are one of those things that are so old that we just accept them as a thing that exist, like Skaia, Horrorterrors, Frogs, etc.

>>82626223
the existence of chucklefucks pisses me off more than it should
i can't even type the actual 'word' it pisses me off so much

>>82626191
I missed so many obvious things in Homestuck
Like at first, I thought WV and Jack Noir were the same person
That's why I'm skeptical of liveblogger-san, she hasn't really made any grievous errors like mixing up two characters

>>82626001
Jack should have never entered to trolls' session.

The reason they couldn't claim the Ultimate Reward should have literally been because they didn't play the game properly and didn't grow up. They should have just trolled the humans and slightly influence events in their session, but nothing big other than creating Bec Noir. They would be mostly advisors, who teach the kids through their mistakes.

Hivebent would be shorter with no connection to the intermission other than the implication that the exiles are the MC and Snowman.

The humans play the game right (maybe Rose still goes Grimdark with Scratch but John fixes her), Jack takes the role of the Black King. No Scratch, no Act 6, no bubbles, no Cherubs, no more meta bullshit, they just beat Jack and then create the universe.

>>82626240
but is he kissable?

>Vriska was the main character of Act 5 all along

FUCK

>>82626062
Well given the way Jane's introduction is setup to mirror Johns, it's likely to follow the same sort of drawn out build up. Given the immensity of the events preceding it, it's an understandable hype killer if you're heavily invested in the kid's story. In addition, there's obviously going to be 4 new characters introduced in a story with way to many characters as is.

>>82626223
Honestly LE did very little if anything to the B1 session, it's just ramifications of his effects on A2 that caused problems. And then of course he's more directly involved in B2.

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>>82626258
>i'm a retard so everyone else must be stupid too
Holy shit is this satire

>>82626280
Vriska was the main character of -Homestuck- all along.

>>82626258
>That's why I'm skeptical of liveblogger-san, she hasn't really made any grievous errors like mixing up two characters
Some readers are different. I never had that problem when reading through Homestuck, but a good amount of my friends couldn't name all 12 trolls while they still read it and were at the same spot as me. Nothing wrong with that, just some people are better at remembering details/catching onto details.

>>82626274
You can try, but you'll probably get stabbed.

Most situations with Jack end with you stabbed.

>>82626112
>>82626223
I liked all the buildup to LE, the whispered rumors, >le he is already here meme, Doc Scratch, etc, all of that was brilliant. It's just what they did with the character once he finally emerged.. which was nothing. You know for a while I even bought Hussie's "I wanted to make him a big dumb strong Hulk monster" explanation, I was like ok let's see what he does with this, but nope, it was fucking retarded. LE, if he was going to be used, should have been sinister and calculating, and should have ACTUALLY DONE SHIT involving the kids.

>>82626189
Something had to contribute to Jade being so desirable

>>82626289
The Green Sun and chucklevoodoos were pretty big deals.

>>82626270
>The reason they couldn't claim the Ultimate Reward should have literally been because they didn't play the game properly and didn't grow up.
But that was it

They caused the events that led to Jack's creation, and his being there created an instant connection between the kids and trolls.

>>82626258
>Like at first, I thought WV and Jack Noir were the same person
>That's why I'm skeptical of liveblogger-san, she hasn't really made any grievous errors like mixing up two characters
Most of us aren't retarded

>>82626179
Yeah, I know...but two panels?

There was something like a week or two between Cascade and Jane appearing, and if I remember right I was still burning enough Cascade hype to make it a ways into Act 6 before I started getting annoyed.

To finish Cascade, get two panels of some new girl and then just immediately go "WELL I GUESS THAT KILLED THE PACING I'M GOING TO SLEEP" is just such an unbelievable reaction.

we should make our own homestuck 2.0 but unlike hussie's vapid cunt inspired content aggregator with nothing but money in mind, we do it for free AND it's probably mostly just going to be porn

we need the homestuck porn renaissance

>>82626209
Shelby's old style isn't really my thing but it's cute with her. I liked her dream bubble space-spiral zone. I was also thinking of how much the shitty jpeg Statues of Liberty appalled her aesthetic sense.

And we didn't see much of her writing. Maybe it was good, self-insert aside.

>>82626274
Absolutely. Look at him making out with Snowman.

>>82626270
I still think this was the original plan and then Hussie realized how fucking marketable the Trolls were and went "fuck it, they're the story now."

>>82626246
Why?

remember when jade offered to send john to hang out on the meteor but instead he wanted to stay and keep his sister company so she wouldn't be alone
remember when john then basically doomed her to huge amounts of misery

>>82626258
I missed a bunch of things but jesus Christ what the fuck

>>82626296
wonder if he'd give the assassination contracts to dreamers that wander in
it'd be kinda neat to see a session where the derse dreamers are actually working for derse

>>82626258
Liveblogger stated that they've read Problem Sleuth prior to starting Homestuck and have friends that encouraged them to get into it. Also they're posting in HSG and we casually talk stuff that's "spoilers" to newreaders all the time. They're new to Homestuck itself but not the MSPA style, character shenanigans, and fan community.

>>82626299
The Condesce, Jack English, and Gamzee were all agents of LE that caused problems for the kids.

>>82626317
He read Hivebent.

He realized that Hussie was going back to a reintroduction AGAIN, killing the pacing AGAIN so he can turn the comic on its head AGAIN.

>>82626129
cool, thanks. i can see a lot of this stuff but none of it really hooked me. its cool to hear how it hit you differently, though. i loved muse calliope in act 7 and she sort of retroactively made lil callie more interesting but not to a great degree.

>>82626343
what was Jade doing in the 3 years in the retcon timeline?

>>82626292
>>82626317
guys obviously it sounds retarded in retrospect but you have to remember that this is a story where you do a lot of bouncing back and forth between different eras

I saw two black chess people in different settings and assumed that they were the same black chess person at different points along his timeline

this misunderstanding was compounded by the scene where we see spades slick meeting himself in rags during the intermission

>>82623403
I was going to say "Hussie is going to half ass it", but that would Hussie still would have put some actual effort into it.

>>82626328
Those statues looked way better than her art.

What we did see was shit written for preschoolers.

>>82626372
yiffyiff

>>82626372
Crying
Sleeping
Crying some more
masturbating like crazy
crying into nanna's lap

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Serious question, when did Dave become a submissive bitch? And I mean before he decided to bend over and take it up the ass from Karkat in the post-retcon. Was it when he started crying in his room? I'm trying to pinpoint exactly when people think this happened.

>>82626313
>But that was it
From a storytelling perspective, yes, but that's why I said literally. Skaia would lietrally lock the door at the end and a giant comic sans "YOU LOSE, THANKS FOR PLAYING" appears over the battlefield as Karkat starts banging his head against a roboAradia in rage as Tavros smugly tells everyone "i TOLD YOU SO"

>>82626365
The Condesce barely counted as an agent, she had her own motivations all along. Jack English was nothing but a pointless drone that did fuckall. Gamzee was a huge fucking letdown. I'm torn between wasting fifteen minutes of my time writing huge paragraphs explaining every way he completely failed with Gamzee's tenuous "connection" to LE or just calling you retarded so I'm going to go with the latter.

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>>82626317
>heavily invested in the kids and their story
>cautiously wary about dealing with the 12 trolls as foreshadowed in the intermission because it means going away from the kids story
>loses all hype at the start of act 5
>nearly drops the comic in act 5 due to complete lack of focus on the kids and characters we spent the first half of the comic getting to know
>Act 6 starts exactly like 1 and 5 did with no indication it won't tread the same path
>This shouldn't indicate the same shit is about to happen again
>PLUS every anon in the thread and on their tumblr telling them Cascade is when the comic ends and they've stated they've started to see cracks already

This is a stupid fucking argument man

>>82626413
when hussie took a long hiatus he forgot to write the character
all he remembered is he has problems with his big bro and translated that into "dave is submissive" because Dirk is suppose to be the alpha strider becuase he's the big bro

>>82626317
I can understand them wanting more of the kids immediately. They hated Hivebent and this is like another Hivebent in terms of deviation from the main story, along with all our warnings.

>>82626344
In my first reading I didn't comprehend the nature of the Medium at first and I thought that the meteor had just destroyed everything around John's house. Why was it so high up, again?

>>82626370
I was honestly expecting more out of Muse Calliope but she was fine for what she was. It's my curse to explain why I like Calliope so much, but in exchange I get to enjoy Calliope this much.

>>82626374
I can get confusing between Jack and Spades
But Jack and WV????