X-MEN: APOCALYPSE "Cyclops" Clip

>Wolverine is short in the comics
>Tall in the movies.

>Cyclops is tall in the comics
>Short in the movies.

Poetry?

This is hilarious.

>>82620278
It's being completely trashed by critics.

That optic blast looked kind of shoddy.

Also, was Scott always a punk before he met Xavier and became an X-man?

>>82620730

>the last time they spoke with each other Wolverine was in the dark and Cyclops was in the light

POTTERY

>I think there's something seriously wrong with my eyes!!!

>Got that one from the Bible.
>Or the Bible got it from him.
Why are these people paid to write this schlock?

>>82621324
What's the issue with the second one?

>>82621213
Not really. He went on the run when his powers first manifested an fell in with another mutant who lived as a hermit, but he turned out to be a violent criminal and Scott ditched him asap.

>>82621428
It just seems so obvious, and tacked on for exposition purposes. The first time I heard it, I actually thought they were going to just assume that everyone knew about the four horsemen of the apocalypse, but then goddamn Havok starts smirking and being the asshole that he is.
I don't know, it just feels so dumb.

>>82621148
Why? Have they seen the movie?

>>82621739
Yeah. Apparently it's very meh, and Isaac/Fassbender/Lawrence look like they don't want to be there.

>>82620278
>their lives were saved by a young mutant
>shows msytique
urgh

>>82622064
Also,
>young
Isn't she in her forties by now?

>>82621148
It's being trashed by the pretentious critics and being praised by the not-as-pretentious critics.

>>82621965
>Isaac/Fassbender/Lawrence look like they don't want to be there.
To be fair, Lawrence has looked that way since First Class. Fassbender was kind of losing a bit of his spark in DOFP.

>>82622245
JLaw is 25

>>82622355
Even the positive reviews are pretty much "well this is just more of the same and there's not a lot to be excited about, but the action was neat"

>>82622384
I think he means the character, since by this point we're about 20 years after First Class, where she and Charles were in their 20's

Granted, it's Mystique and she can look however old she wants, but still

>>82622064
That's what happened in the last movie. What would you prefer, a shot of Logan as he got tossed in the drink?

>>82622355
Here we go

>>82620278
What the fuck am I watching?

>>82620278
four whole minutes of footage? that seems desperate doesn't it?

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>>82622355
We'll need an X-men version of this soon

Obligatory post comparing the budgets and box office returns/eventual box office returns for Deadpool and Apocalypse.

>>82621148

Who cares?

Like I would listen to some fat baby boomer who works as a "film critic."

I like the Xmen so I have to watch this. It's not rocket science.

>>82623771
Another film, the same old excuses.

>>82623800
Still waiting for "who the fuck listens to RT anymore they're owned by _____!!"

>>82624025
My favourite is "Rotten Tomatoes critics are retarded"

People bitch about RT and don't even know what it is, just that it has a number that doesn't conform to their views.

>>82624081

One of my favorite movies is Waterworld, am I supposed to care its got a 42% on Rotten Tomatoes? There was no RT when I saw the movie, so I need to retcon my feelings?

>>82624208
You can think whatever you like, I have movies that I love that got shitty reviews

There's a difference between saying "I still love this movie, I guess the general reception is poor, oh well" and "CRITICS ARE SHIT, LOL WHO EVEN CARES, IT'S A CONSPIRACY, THEY WERE PAID OFF, THEY JUST EXPECTED SOMETHING ELSE, THEY'RE JUST HATERS"

>Scott is squinting and blinking uncomfortably
>"You winking at my girl?"

Totally reasonable reaction.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/x-men-apocalypse-review

>"X-MEN: APOCALYPSE" MAY MAKE YOU WHISPER, "NO MORE MUTANTS"

>But this time, screenwriter Simon Kinberg folds in the "women in refrigerators" trope, too.

>because Psylocke's revealing warrior gear is beyond ludicrous. I know, I know, that’s how they looked in the comics. Unpopular opinion alert: I don't care.

>ridge too far to imagine that he decided a suitable costume for one of his warrior followers would be a Capezio leotard with thigh highs and a boob window, and that he made such an impractical costume out of sand.

>so let's bring Mystique back but ditch the blue makeup, and favor low-cut tops for most of her screentime.

>that's far more progressive and satisfying character arc than the "Last Stand" backstory that had the Professor violating her brain to control her.


topkek triggered reviewer

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>>82623670
Here, Anon. Enjoy

Hopefully this writing means that the movie will parody terrible 80's movies and TV, and not just that it's written just as badly.

>>82621148
Let me guess, too dark and not fun enough?

>>82624631
The internet was a mistake

>>82624781
No, it's just shit like X-Men 3

>>82620278
That boy's got a purrty mouth

>>82624825
Because those movies are different, contrary to the belief of dipshits

>>82624781

that is literally the complaint in multiple reviews

but most are also pointing out that it's the same Charles x Magneto ideals conflict yet again, and that there isn't as much action as you'd think and it takes too long for the conflict to actually arrive, and the Horsemen are non-characters.

>>82624589
>that knocking
What the fuck is wrong with that guy.
Reminds me of that overreacting crowd kid in the peter vs flash in the amazing spider man 1

>>82623771
This is pretty much me. I like X-men so what am I gonna do, just not watch it? As long as marvel/sony whatever is making them I'm gonna watch them.

>>82624917
>overreacting crowd kid in the peter vs flash in the amazing spider man 1

Remind me.

>>82624990
You're FOX's wet dream

People who just gobble up shit because a name is on it.

>>82620278
>Looks good

>>82625014
>because a name is on it
Wew lad. That is some mighty dense implying you have there. Are you suggesting I would watch any movie about anything as long as it's called X-men. I'm gonna call you a retard now on account of your being so dumb. Retard.

>>82625049
K

I LIKE X3 AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO SHOW IT

(anonimously on a Samoan slam poetry website)

>>82625065
>If I just reply with k he won't think that I'm hurting

>>82625140
Ouch bro

>>82625158
Sorry bb but its true

>>82624994
https://youtu.be/iwezBss_BMQ
The kid with the yellow hood

>>82625189
K

>>82625077
I didn't think it was great by any means but I didn't think it was as horrible as everyone says.

I thought X2 was kind of bad and I'm still baffled that people praise it as an amazing movie

>>82625077
X3 is as bad as it's reputation, Wolverine Origin is the hidden gem

It's bad but it's the entertaining kind of bad. X3 is not.

>>82625283
I thought X2 was great but DoFP was dumb. Maybe we're evil twins.

>>82625219
He's really is way into that whole situation

>>82624631
>so let's bring Mystique back but ditch the blue makeup, and favor low-cut tops for most of her screentime.
Is that somehow worse than being straight-up naked in most of the movies?

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>>82625049
>Are you suggesting I would watch any movie about anything as long as it's called X-men
>I like X-men so what am I gonna do, just not watch it?

>>82625283
There's a small minority of people that see X2 as a weak movie, but the OMG BEST MOVIE EVER MADE people have been drowning them out for 13 years.

Personally I think it's decent, but really overhyped and did a terrible job of balancing its cast. It's the movie that started the trend of just padding the cast out with a bunch of characters, but what the later movies learned was that it's better to focus on two or three major characters and then shove everyone else into being glorified extras- which is a disappointing use of those characters but resolves the balancing problem. X2 tried to give almost all of its cast a role to play in the story but ended up just being bloated and some of the characters that should've been given more focus end up suffering (Jean's Phoenix subplot is a complete afterthought for most of the movie but suddenly becomes a major thing during the climax), and characters that had little or no actual part to play end up wasting screentime (Rogue, Iceman and Pyro).

>>82625440
Retard. You got me to reply. Retarded retard.

>>82625349
X2 has good moments, but it's not aged terribly well. It's a good wolverine movie, and a passable X-Men movie. It was great when it came out, but I don't think it holds up too well.

DoFP felt like a "we're sorry about the continuity errors and always coasting on the actors rather than the characters but we've got them under contract so we're gonna give them a send-off and start anew with proper X-men in an interesting time period. We also now have a blue mystique, a blue beast, and Xavier is gonna be bald, just like he was gonna be already crippled in this movie but not really."

And then they did none of it. It's always two steps forward and one step back. Except now they are going to the side instead. Gonna wait for the DVDRip, if I still remember by then.

>>82625477
I disagree on the Jean part. I felt her awakening as the Pheonix was done very nicely.

>>82625412

One of them doesn't require hours of makeup work and more hours breathing in noxious shit

She didn't ask them to reduce the blue form time because she's a prude

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>>82620278
So when this movie bombs as badly as Tranktastic, what will happen to Fox-Men? Will Fox give them to Disney? Or will they make a deal like Spider-Man and let their characters appear in the movies but keep the money? Like have Wolverine appear in Infinity War.

>>82625477
Jean's subplot was handled perfectly, it was Ratner that shit the bed with ruining the payoff

Also if you think those three have no part to play I seriously think you don't 'get' the movie

>>82625594

It's not going to bomb and Marvel are never, ever getting the X-Men back.

>>82625613
It's Rothman's fault, not Ratner's. He hated the Phoenix storyline and did all he could to subdue it to the barest acceptable amount.

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>>82620278
X-MEN: ALPACA LIPS

>>82625594
I doubt it'll actually bomb. It'll make a lot less than DOFP and the studio may consider it a disappointment but it won't be a Fant4stic level failure.

But if we're talking about a scenario in which the X-Men movies stop being profitable, I don't necessarily want the license to revert to Marvel, but I do think the series needs to go away for a few years and then start fresh. I don't care if it stays with Fox or goes to Marvel, I'd just prefer to see them to wait until like 2025 and then make a brand new X-Men.

>>82625659
X3 probably would've been better if it had no Jean and was just about the cure.

Does Bryan Singer just hire any twink that will suck his dick?

>>82625613
>Also if you think those three have no part to play I seriously think you don't 'get' the movie
Iceman's only purpose was to set up a "coming out" scene and Pyro was there to highlight the frustration of being a mutant (further drawing the puberty parallel) as well as show how easy it is to be swayed by Magneto's pitch. Neither of them contributes anything meaningful to the actual story.

They're still more important than Rogue, who adds nothing.

>>82625479
Retard. You got me to reply. Retarded retard.

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>>82625666
Starring Paco "Lips" Mendoza

>>82625643
RT says otherwise ;)

>>82625594
They won't and probably can't give X-Anything back until they've tested the waters with the X-Force and Wolverine movie.

>>82625730
>Iceman's only purpose was to set up a "coming out" scene and Pyro was there to highlight the frustration of being a mutant (further drawing the puberty parallel) as well as show how easy it is to be swayed by Magneto's pitch. Neither of them contributes anything meaningful to the actual story.
Hell, Iceman detracts from it since they need to detour to Boston solely so he can have that scene.

>>82625594
The worst, and I mean absolute worst case if the movie underperforms, is that FOX isn't confident with the new young cast and goes the soft reboot/recasting route instead of continuing with them.

But Jean and Scott are being pointed to as some of the films strengths despite it's problems, and Storm is just completely underused so even that scenario seems unlikely.

FOX just had Deadpool, have Wolverine 3 and a new X-Men based movie coming up, and an X-Men based tv series on the way. Marvel are not getting the property back. Ever.

>>82625872
Nothing personell, kid

>>82625594
Despite being a bit of an X-Fag, I'd prefer Marvel getting the FF back.

>>82625594
Fox can keep the shitty X-Men, they suck dick and would just clog up the MCU

They need FF rights for the villains tho. Marvel should extend the X-Fags contract in return for the FF rights

>>82624208
You should care about the fact that you have shit taste. I mean,
>Waterworld
Really? THAT'S your defence?

>>82625898

The scale of the FF and the type of characters they are work better as supporting characters for an MCU, the X-Men are the polar opposite of this.

They work best in isolation, crossing them over does nothing but cause problems in both directions.

Reminder that this was the best part of DoFP

https://a.pomf.cat/dnnbcl.webm

>>82625896
Nothin' personal. Just tellin' it like it is.

It's the same way pop stars have little armies of online soldiers. Same type of crowd-think.

>>82625989
Pssh, nothing persoNELL, kiiiiiid

>>82625932
>Marvel
The X-men contract auto-renews every time a movie gets made lol.

>>82625735
Oooh big deal.

>>82625971
>Not the plane scene
Low rent post.

>>82626014
Yeah I'm saying they should let the contract go longer without needing to make a new movie

Or just do something to let Fox keep shitting out shitty X-Men and get back FF

>>82626017
Retard. You got me to reply. Retarded retard.

>>82626063
Ooooh.

>>82626081
Oooh big deal.

>>82624781
First Class, DOFP, and Deadpool all got good reviews. There's no Marvel quip conspiracy this movie just sucks, these clips suck, the trailers suck, anyone could have told you months ago it would suck.

>>82620278
Looks like a young Tom Hardy

>>82626106
Oooh

>>82624781

DOFP was dark and 'not fun' and it's got an RT score higher than Civil War does.

This is getting negative reviews because it's probably not a very good movie. It happens.

>>82621433
Jack O Diamonds. Scott and Xavier killed em dead.

>>82626217
>>82626122
B-but muh Disney conspiracy!

>>82626032

>Not putting time in a bottle
Low rent reply.

Just for context, MCU fagging wasn't near as bad and pathetic when Days of Future Past was released.

>>82626332
>Not everybody getting stomped by future Sentinels
Being mutant is suffering and that let the world know.

>>82626122

>including Deadpool as evidence about quips not mattering
>implying DOFP or First Class were good movies

>>82626418
Prerelease it was. People were having a field day with the promotional images, especially the cringeworthy ones they released of Quicksilver. Post-release they kinda shut up.

who gives a fuck about j-laws xmen anymore

>>82626458

I want to impregnate J-Law

>yfw Deadpool makes more money than Apocalypse

>>82626480
I want to impregnate your face with my fist.

>>82625330
>Wolverine Origin is the hidden gem

It was put out in the widest release possible, and a shit-ton of people saw it.

By what measure is it a hidden anything?

>>82626418
Yeah, and X-Men fagging has never been a thing since they suck ass.

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>>82626522

>>82625643
thank god

fuck an xman

>>82624911

Sounds like everything one could want from an X-men movie. Singer has not made a bad one yet, the movie features teen Scott, qt.pie Jubilee, Psylocke in comic accurate costume, high possibility of Angel NOT being shit, kute shota Kurt, honestly, I'm pumped.

>>82625594
They give it to the Deadpool staff, so it is saved by FOX employees with no need to negotiate with Feige at all.

Also remember this isn't FOX-Men first blunder, if they survived Origins and Last Stand they can survive another mess, especially after Deapool's 700% profit margin.

>>82625827
>more wolverine
NO

MAKE IT STOP

RELEASE HUGE JACKEDMAN FROM HIS SUFFERING

>>82626630
The next one is a loose adaption of Old Man Wolverine and is his final movie.

>>82626663
unless it does well and they renew him for more

the ride never ends mate

>>82626605
Spoilers

Jubilee doesn't do anything and Angel dies

>>82625802

IMO, the Boston detour works because they literally were running away at night with their pajamas on, and needed some safe, familiar place to crash. Then they meet up with the rest of the people and regroup and go to Weapon X. The only awkward bit is when they team up with Magneto. X2 could have used maybe fifteen minutes of more material in the middle with the cast before they go attack the Weapon X project.

>>82626695

>Jubiless is useless

This doesn't sound like anything new

>>82620278
Why does he look tarded?

>>82626695

Her job is to be cute, not useful!

>>82626912
>>82627031
Useless as in she doesn't even use her powers

>>82627047

If she used her powers critics would accuse the film of having shitty special effects

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>>82626994

>>82627058
Really grasping at straws there

>>82620278
>it's been 22 years at least since first class
>it's only been 5 real years since first class
I know you need to stretch your imagination, but Charles and Havoc just way too much the exact same for it being 20 years later. In DoFP you could kind of gloss over it because they were late teens/early 20s and only in the mid to late 20s for DoFP. This is too much.

>>82625594
Bad reviews are not going to tank a movie with the inertia of a series like X-Men, coming off of the success of DoFP, and maybe even a boost from Deadpool. It's more likely the next one will suffer after this one sucks, like Fant4stick died from people's memories of RotSS.

>>82626994
>this is what some people actually believe

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>>82626994
>Disney conspiracy

>>82627079
No one gives a shit about those old FF movies

Fant4stick died from being a grim, dull piece of garbage

It didn't have audience with comic book fans, it didn't have an audience with regular movie goers, it had nothing.

>>82627058

If anything, they'd mob around the fact that she's a racist stereotype by being an Asian person with fireworks powers

>>82627047

Not like she used them much in the previous movies. Like I said, she's there to be cute, not to be useful. It's friggin' Jubilee!

>>82627108
No they wouldn't. Stop being an idiot.

I'll never forgive them for making my husbando hideous

>>82627162
Yes, they got a total uggo to play Magneto, he's so ugly I literally vomit every time he's on-screen

>>82624966
probably because mcu is shit, yet the critics try to tell us that it isn't

>>82627186
Thanks for proving my point.

>>82620278
>One conversation in class
>"Can I go to the bathroom, I think there is seriously something wrong with my eyes"
>>"Yeah and then go to the principal's office"
>Bell rings
>>"The bell doesn't dismiss you, I dismiss you"
What a cunt

>>82622461
Look at Havok and you tell me.

>>82624833
it's funny how they only post negative reviews, while they ignore the positive ones

>>82626994
Oh no, they want the rights to make movies about characters they created and own in every other form of media, so terrible! Those damn thieves!

>>82627107
too bad, because it wasn't a bad movie. not great, but not bad either

>>82627209
What's your point? That you are a retard?
Ooh

>>82627322
Trank pls go.

>>82627280

Considering they are actively shitting on those characters in every other form of media out of spite, actually damaging the brand, I don't know what you find respectable about it.

>>82627280
Yeah, especially that when they had financial problems it was Fox-Men who saved marvel (along with Spider-Man)

>>82627340
Psssssssssssssshhhhh, NOTHING personellllll kid

>>82627362
>Considering they are actively shitting on those characters in every other form of media out of spite, actually damaging the brand
>he still thinks this is actually happening

>>82627343
I watched it recently, and frankly, while it's sometimes too dark, it's not really bad.
Could be better of course.

>>82627367
Oooh. You retard

>>82627364
Soon it will be Fox who needs saving, just like Sony

>>82627322
>and now Fant4stick isn't bad either.

>>82627397
Nah, they just will have to produce more deadpool movies, and go full quipster, so the critics will say that the movies are "fun".

>>82627412
Did you even watch the movie? Or had the disney overlards forbade to watch it?

>>82627413
Quicksilver was never anyone's favorite character.

>>82627378

I said shitting on them, not the old "they're trying to kill them off forever!" conspiracy.

If you think the current state of that line isn't deliberate, with about the only book in it that's good being a quarantined one, you're delusional.

>>82627421
You retard. Made me reply. Oooh

>>82627436
Bullshit, complete bullshit

>>82627434
I own the movie.
It starts out pretty interesting, gets creepy and off track when they are military prisoners/agents, and the ending is completely fucking retarded.

>>82627434
>butthurt X-fags are actually a thing

Oh wow, colour me surprised

>>82627458
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>82627482
memes are real
a r a i d would be fun

>>82627454

It's basically two movies, before and after the time skip.

That first half is kind of interesting. The second half after they took control away from the director is awful.

>>82627436

Not absolute favorite, but his douchebaggery is really entertaining.

>>82627516
But I like them? Who do you tell me to hate them?
I'm not going in your thread saying that captain fuck yeah murrica sucks (even if he does).
Do you really enjoy spilling salt in someone's cereals? It's not my fault that you have action figures hitting each other: the movie

>>82627569
You can enjoy shit all you want man, more power to you.

>>82627590
Well, same to you man. I would never watch an assvenger movie, but if you like them, that's okay

>>82627607
>I know you are but what am I?

Truly the intellect we can expect from an X-Men fan

>>82627482
>comicsbeat.com

The only good thing about the site was the sales chart, which have become a bit redundant because digital sales now skews any attempt at analyzing them due to Comixology not making their sales numbers public.

>>82627614
I only tried to write in a language you would understand. Sorry, I thought that it was your standard

>>82620278
>tfw i couldve played a better scott

>19

>6'3

>skinny guy with somewhat matching facial features

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>>82627673

>DC lineup is 90% Batman
>They're so used to the Caped Crusader any time they try something different it bombs

>>82627723
>try something different

Well nowadays it's "try Nolan Batman but with literally any other character"

>>82627621
>The only good thing about the site was the sales chart

Couldn't you just go to Comichron for that? Unless you need the commentary from there.

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>>82620278
>Scott asks to use the bathroom
>Ok, and how about you also go to the principal's office for disrupting class
>Class ends literally 5 seconds later
That was a dumb threat.

>>82627749

Comicsbeat pools together several months worth of sales for each title per publisher (and(or the sales from the previous volume if it's a relaunch) (Big Two separately + indy as its own thing) so you got a pretty good picture, quickly, about how any given book was doing. I don't think Comichron does that to such great detail.

The reviews are about, apparently the movie is X-men 3 bad.

>>82627621
Steve Orlando said on twitter a couple of weeks ago that the way things get paid out means that digital sales really aren't relevant as far as a book's health goes. Or something like that.

I suspect that the biggest flaw of this movie will be trying too hard to be like marvel flicks, instead of being its own thing. If anything, that would be a proof that x-men should never go to mcu, as they don't fit marvel movies

BUMP FOR THE SALT

>>82627799
I don't even know what they were on when they wrote that scene, is it just to drive home the already hamfisted prejudice he has to face? The overactive conveniently placed jock between Scott and the guy's gf wasn't enough?
Any teacher informed a student was not feeling well and needed to be excused would let them go even if they were just faking, if they're ill and get to the principal to complain about her behavior what does she expect to happen? Get a raise? For inconveniencing an ill student? If he's faking he'll still just feign being sick even more and then decide to take it out on her further for trying to call him out for it.

It's not that big of a deal movie wise, but that's just the thing. Why did they waste any time on that line and take? They honestly could have just cut from Scott squinting to barging out of the class, we'd get an immediate sense of urgency as a result and the teacher reacting to his disturbance would be justified since he appears to just be running off. Who even gives a shit about Chad and what's her face? Just have the teach go after Scott when he storms out, get blasted and hospitalized when she checks on him in the stall and voila.

Now it's an unfortunate misunderstanding, the teacher doesn't seem like an uncaring cunt and the audience doesn't need all that useless build up stemming from some bitch turning in her seat.

>>82627899
>I suspect that the biggest flaw of this movie will be trying too hard to be like marvel flicks

The biggest "flaw" is that it went for apocalyptic destruction and general audiences now react "waaaah what is this grimdark shit, where is muh light hearted fun?"

>>82628338
I'm only theoretizing. Frankly, I am really curious to see now what they did wrong and right.

>>82628338
>"Wahhhh it's all Marvel's fault wahhhh"

Lmao, grimdark movies do well all the time, maybe this movie is just shit bro

>>82628338
Days of Future Past did well and the Nolan trilogy is beloved by everyone.

>>82628413
That doesn't make sense, because saying that "something is x" is subjective

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>>82628438

>>82628338
>The biggest "flaw" is that it went for apocalyptic destruction and general audiences now react "waaaah what is this grimdark shit, where is muh light hearted fun?"

Or you could actually read all those negative reviews instead of just looking at RT numbers and see that isn't what they're complaining about.

>>82628464
No anon, it's all a conspiracy! T-they couldn't possibly make a bad movie!

>>82628461
The thing is, I know that I will enjoy the movie, but I dread the moment when I will want to seriously discuss the movie here. It's sad, because no one disrupts civil war threads, but you guys will not be satisfied, until my fave characters are burned to the ground.

>>82628474
Looking at Singer's track so far, I think he earned some trust. It would be disappointing if the movie wasn't at least as good as DOFP, but maybe the movie is not bad, as much as it's not as good as previously.

And judging from the reviews, it seems like Apocalypse is DOFP II, albeit not as good.

Problem with the movie is that they chose the most bland, and boring villain they could think, lame two dimensional character that never lived up to the hype. Should have used Proteus -- now that would have made for an interesting movie!

>>82628517
>Apocalypse bland
Out of curiosity, what makes in your opinion a villain bland, or not bland?
What in your opinion makes Proteus not bland?
He doesn't even have an appearance, he just jumps from body to body.

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>>82628335
Oh and how could I forget another take away from a simplification is there would be more irony in the teacher who was speaking neutrally on the threat vs aid of mutants to society later getting harmed by Scott accidentally when she was trying to make sure he's okay than some nobody meathead.

The students who hear about it and Scott would have more conflict over the incident compared to bruising some asshole trying to give him a swirly for blinking.

BREVITY, motherfucker. Does no one reading this shit stop and ask at what the point the point disappears? Why extend your work? Whenever stuff like this happens in movies it descends a staircase of absurdity.

I
Just
Don't
Fucking
Understand

>>82626452
>Post-release they kinda shut up.
Nah it still got slammed

>>82628530
Just find him and his storylines boring

Proteus is exciting though, great storylines, great motivations and a powerset that would shine in a cinematic setting

>>82628653
>Great storylines
His best storyline was the original one and the exiles one. How do you want to make a 2 hour movie about Proteus.

What are his motivations? Daddy issues?
His powers wouldn't also be epic enough for those who only go to movies for "action".

I do believe that Apocalypse is superior to Proteus. He has a clan, horsemen, and his agenda is very different to most of other villains. People complain that he job, but so far, everything is going according to his plan

>>82624631
>imagine that he decided a suitable costume for one of his warrior followers would be a Capezio leotard with thigh highs and a boob window

Apocalypse confirmed for man of good taste

>>82626217
>>82624781
>>82621148
What is this Disney conspiracy thing? I thought it was just bad reviews by terrible fanboy reviewers. What Disney conspiracy?

>>82628804
People think that disney pays for reviews, while in fact the reviewers just prefer disney over others, and what other movies to be disney-like

Deadpool is a good example. It was made by Fox, but it felt really mcu, and it got good reviews

>>82628498
>I know I will enjoy the movie

Says it all

>>82628516
Singer doesn't control everything. Still has shitty JLaw and execs trying to mess with shit

>>82628851
>felt really MCU

Yeah all those MCU pegging scenes

>>82622355
For the record, most of the critics bashing Apocalypse, also gave good reviews to DoFP.

Apocalypse is just plain bad.

>>82628866
>Yeah all those MCU pegging scenes
>implying Bucky didn't peg Captain Anal

>Says it all
elaborate, please.

>Still has shitty JLaw
I agree that she is shitty. Hopefully it's her last movie.

>>82628870
Some of the criticism is ridiculous, though.

>>82628910
Saying you "know" you will enjoy it means your biased. You can HOPE or EXPECT a good movie, but if you "know" you're just one of those delusional fanboys who will defend garbage because they can't deal with it being garbage.

>>82625594
I don't think it'll bomb. But it'll make Fox go into panic mode about what to do with the characters.

>>82628927
I know I will enjoy it, because I really really wanted to see Apocalypse. I actually liked the trailers (yup), and I liked the memequote "everything they build yadda yadda". I don't know if it be a GOOD movie, but I know that this is something I wanted to see for a long while.

I do am worried that this is magneto/prof x show. But there are also many positive things that will happen, like comic book accurate blob, psylocke, and jubille, Years ago, Singer would not even toy with the idea of accurate costumes.

It's far from perfection, but I feel it's the right direction.

>>82628804

Broken brained people think Disney pays reviewers to give Marvel/Star Wars movies good reviews and superhero movies by other companies bad reviews.

>>82628953
>I know I will enjoy it

Says it all

>>82628921
>Some of the criticism is ridiculous, though.

Like what?

>>82628976
And I explained to you why. You might want to accept it, or not, it's your choice. But yes, I really want to see it, and now, after the criticism, I feel like I'm going to see it as soon as possible.

I planned on watchin it in june, but fuck it.
Keep hyping me.

>>82629023
You explained why you're letting your hype blind you, sure

>>82629055
Okay, I'm blind. And of course I'm worried.
But there's enough fan service to make me enjoy the movie. Jeez, and you guys wonder why people scream "b-b-but mcu", especially that there were constanty "hype threads" for civil war. Somehow, that was okay. Spider-Man blinked, and people started fapping furiously.

I only want a little bit of that for myself. And I know that I will be ridiculed here because of that.

>>82629091
It's okay to be hyped, it's okay to expect a good movie

"Knowing" it will be good is different. You need to accept that the movie could be bad. I'm an MCUfag and I accept Thor 2 is trash, Iron Man 3 is bleh and AoU is just okay.

>>82629168
Oh for fuck sake, we're not arguing semantics?
And of course, saying that movie is bad is somehow a fact. I accept that I'm blinded by hype.

>>82629228
cont. I'm not saying that you say that the movie is bad, but there are numerous posters who spout it as a fact, even here. I guess that it gives them some morbid satisfaction.

>>82629244
You're spouting that you'll like it as a fact, same difference

>>82629055
>hype blind you

Only idiots blindly believe and follow reviews. I've enjoyed every Singer X-men movie so far, why would I not give him the benefit of the doubt, especially when everything I've seen and heard about Apocalypse sounds good?

>>82628870
>most of the critics bashing Apocalypse, also gave good reviews to DoFP.
Therein might actually lie a problem. DoFP setting unreasonable expectations could actually factor into a middeling movie suddenly being panned as bad.
But I haven't seen it, so at this point, I can just keep an open mind.

I'll give it a shot. The franchise earned at least that. If it really is terrible, I'll have to see how Fox goes on from here.

>>82629285

Hopefully a GenX/New Mutants movie they've talked about. I want a live action Chamber so bad.

>>82629281
>everything I've seen and heard

Except the reviews of course :)

>all these mental gymnastics to justify the movie having a poor critical reception

Maybe the movie is just bad.

>>82629364
but that doesn't make sense. Civil war was mediocre and it had good reviews.

>>82629405
Nice meme

>>82629168
>Thor 2 is trash, Iron Man 3 is bleh and AoU is just okay.

I don't think you should be talking about movie standards online.

>>82629433
>lol my taste > your taste

Riveting.

>>82621324
>>Got that one from the Bible.
>>Or the Bible got it from him.
Doesn't even make sense since the four horsemen are from Revelations and that was written way after Apocalypse was in power.

>>82629328

New Mutants is definitely happening. It's director has been posting pictures of certain characters on his instagram recently.

>>82629481
>Four Hoursemen are from revelation
>written after Apocalypse was in power
>bible got it from him doesn't make sense
brilliant mind

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>>82626695
>I'll never get a good Warren in movies
>No Warren/Betsy OTP in X-Force with a badass Archangel and a Psylocke who can fucking act

>>82629588
Don't give up your hopes. yet

>>82629588
Give up your hopes

Fox doesn't give two shits about the source material

>>82629586
Why would John the Baptist know anything about Apocalypse? The whole point is that his entire civilization disappeared without a trace.

>>82629614
that's fine by me actually

>>82629616
because the thing about legends, or myths, or rumors is that they have a grain of salt.
What do we know about the great flood, other than noah built an ark?

And one could think that 4 horsemen of apocalypse is a big deal enough about to at least go down in legends

>>82629692
*grain of truth
ahhh, I'm really tired

>>82629614
>the source material
Nobody should follow the comics because they wouldn't work in movies.

Reminder that Stuckman likes X-Men Apocalypse, the same guy who made the BvS rewrite

>>82629793
The guy that DCfags tried to force into a meme?

>>82629793
literally who?

Even if it is "good", it's not divisive, it's just aggressively mediocre from what I've seen in the reviews.

All the good reviews on RT are giving it Cs and 6s or 7s. All the bad reviews are just giving it 4s or 5s. The bad problems are just apparently Apocalypse not being interesting. People aren't saying it's too dark or too grim (which would make no sense because Days of Future Past was pretty grim) just that it's too... boring.

>>82629793
he also liked civil war
checkmate atheists

>>82628921
>Some of the criticism is ridiculous, though.
Like what?

>>82628804
>terrible fanboy reviewers
Or
>Disney conspiracy
One have to wonder why even the worst mcu movies get better score compared to the others and the critics aren't helping their case when they make comments like "Too dark!! They should learn from MCU!1!".

>>82629869
the worst MCU movies also have a better audience score most of the time...

>>82629869
You mean objectively bad, or bad according to this place?
Because the masses still think Age of Ultron was fine, and Thor is liked because the Thor audience are horny girls.

>'Apocalypse' Pow: The New 'X-Men' Makes the Comic-Book Movie Great Again

http://www.villagevoice.com/film/apocalypse-pow-the-new-x-men-makes-the-comic-book-movie-great-again-8599850

>Apocalypse, for all its faults, has the audacity to make the MCU look small, and the conviction to make the DCU — if there even is such a thing — look foolish for confusing self-seriousness with gravity. If only these characters were allowed to be as complex as the ideas they fight for, Apocalypse could have represented a new beginning for superhero cinema.

>>82629901
Objectively bad, and the masses didn't think BvS was bad either. Not great, but not bad.

>>82629977
The masses thought BvS was worse than Age of Ultron

>>82629954
>http://www.villagevoice.com/film/apocalypse-pow-the-new-x-men-makes-the-comic-book-movie-great-again-8599850

Is he trying to review the movie, or spoil as much as he can in a 1000 words? I can't tell.

>>82629992

They would be right.

from a negative review

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/x-men-apocalypse-film-review-891719

>Despite the undeniable presence of a huge amount of action, X-Men: Apocalypse is decidedly a case of more is less, especially when compared with the surprising action and more interesting personal interactions (including the temporary subtraction of some characters) in other big Marvel franchises.

>>82626630
>>82626663

>Huge Actman is nearly 50.
>Has to push his body to the limit to get into shape for the role.

>JLaw is in her mid 20s.
>Complains about having to sit in a chair for 4 hours to have bluemake up.
>Can't be bothered to work out for the role.

Hugh is the hero we deserve. Pls be good Wolverine 3.

apparently Magneto single-handedly destroys Auschwitz. Does it make Magneto /pol/?

>>82630101

>stirring his anger by taking him to Auschwitz and helpfully informing him that, “This is where your people were slaughtered.”

Hahaha, the more I read about this fucking movie, the more retarded it sounds

>>82624911
>too dark and not fun enough

>same Clark doesn't want to be Sueprman conflict yet again

>there isn't as much action

>takes too long for the conflict to actually arrive

>Doomsday is a non-character

LaughingEvans.jpg

>>82627058
it isn't that hard to get fireworks
just go to the south or the desert

>>82630219

I fail to see what's wrong about Apocalypse manipulating Magneto into agreeing to serve him by taking him to Aushwitz and triggering him with the holocaust as a way to reignite his hate for humanity so that he'll give him a hand at global genocide. Ol' pockylips is playing Magneto like a goddamn fiddle.

>>82630219
That's very Apocalypsish. It's like people forget how he recruited Caliban, Angel, some morlocks.
Apocalypse is a jerk

>>82630222
I hope Evans will have cancer from his laughing and die. He is very punchable

>>82630314

It's not the idea itself, the execution. You think a Pole needs a 6000-year-old mummy to take him on a school trip to talk about the holocaust? That's idiotic.

Since mags is jewish, and apocalypse is based on jahwe, does it mean that them together genociding the 80s world (which was dominated by white convervatism) in order to build a more "diversified" world (but only for them) is some meta commentary to the current political situation?

>>82630360
You don't know Poles. They are emotional as fuck. Fellate their ego and honor, and they get up-in-the-arms, or butthurt

>Scott is still in High School
>Alex is in his 30s/40s

That's a pretty big age gap. Are they actually brothers in this.

>>82630415
They are brothers from different timelines, in a true Summers way. Havok is from FC timeline, while Scott is from Wolverine Origins timeline

>>82630401

Yeah, but, just think about it,

>"This is where your people were slaughtered."
>You don't say, sherlock!

>>82630360
>It's not the idea itself, the execution.

There's nothing wrong with the execution. Apocalypse's motivation is to get Magneto so fired up that he'll agree to join the crusade to decimate a good portion of Earth's populace or whatever. Of course he's going to be fucking using the one thing that will always get Magneto mad as fuck. It's Apocalypse, of course he's going to take a charred skeletal remains of a jew and rub it all over Magneto's face to manipulate, who at this time has entirely given up on his mutant supremacy and just trying to live a normal life.

>>82630459
all true, but it does work as a morale booster.
you can try it sometimes out of curiosty

>Apocalypse spends half the film teleporting everywhere on a kind of trick-or-treat recruitment drive that becomes naggingly ridiculous, when he’s not redecorating walls with the trapped heads of humankind.

holy shit, pretty brutal

Apocalypse teleporting out of nowhere is actually perfectly in line with comics btw

>>82624676
Fassy/Macavoy OTP should be the free space desu senpai

>>82620278
And this is exactly why Xavier is wrong and mutants should be registered. If it was any bit more lethal his power would have killed many people by accident. And Scott is a good guy, he didnt meant to. It just happened. They need to wear the collars at school.

>>82631004
I agree. Sentinels are not a bad idea. They just need a better programming. I bet that some mutie sabotaged the program

>Sure, it’s fun to have Ally Sheedy from The Breakfast Club now teaching in a classroom exactly like The Breakfast Club’s, but, little by little, these in-jokes become all the movie concretely has going for it.

? too light-hearted?

>>82631093
people begged for X-Men to be have less serious grim tone, and now when it's actually done, the reviewers go "haram"

>>82630008
>reviewer's name is literally Bilge

>>82631093
>these in-jokes become all the movie concretely has going for it.

Wait so the humour is some of the better stuff in the movie?

Then why did they remove the mall scene? Maybe they thought it didn't fit but I can't help but feel that the kids having fun and bonding at the mall could only have been a good thing.

>>82630128
>a jew
actually yes, /pol/ has a shockingly sizable jewish group. it's Zionist they don't like

>>82631226
They did remove? Aww

>>82631226
THEY REMOVED THE MALL SCENE?

>>82631275
>>82631276

You have to wait for the inevitable
>X-men Apocalypse: The Kids in the Mall cut.

>>82620278
Holy fucking shit this looks terrible

>>82631317
apocapacha approves.jpg

can I request apocalypse pacha?

>>82631275
>>82631276

Only one reviewer out of the ones I've read brought it up saying how the early bts shots of them at the mall weren't in the final cut.

We should've seen it coming really considering we saw none of it in any of the trailers (despite it being the first thing they shot) and the only thing we saw of it was a photo Sophie Turner posted on her twitter. Also seems like this is where Jubilee was also going to have most of her lines as people are mentioning she's hardly in it even though she got a poster (they just never released it).

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFJwnbCurNY/?taken-by=lanacondor&hl=en

>>82631342
I wonder if it's going to be a fatal mistake

>>82631342 Christ, how many times are they going to cast Jubilee and cut all her scenes? Why even bother anymore?

>>82631369
>Why even bother anymore?

Because she's cute! The problem is that they keep treating her as a cameo, rather than a main character.

>>82631369
Hey, at least she didn't show up to be killed.

>>82628851
Will have to wait and see until Doc Strange comes out. No way in hell can Disney constantly make great super movies without getting one that sucks on on the Tomato meter.

Far to Strange.

>>82631383
I think that Doc Strange will have 102% (yup) fresh at first, but will be quickly corrected to 96% to make it look 'objective'

>>82631405
also, I am 1000% certain that Doc Strange will be "the bestest marvel movie so far", and that everyone will love it. I mean, how can you hate teh FUN?

Between the mixed reviews and following Civil War, I believe that Xmen Apocalypse is doomed to failure. Why they felt they had to release it against Alice Through the Looking Glass is beyond me. But these are the same people who released Alvin and the Chipmunks 4 against Star Wars 7 so, they're foolishness shouldn't be too surprising at this point.

>>82631415
>because they take risks and think out of the box

>>82631504
don't forget about the FUN.
remember, FUN is the foundation of mcu
FUN
U
N

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>>82627108
Did I miss something growing up? Are Asians supposed to be possessed of some mystical Firework conjuration that we just for some reason never heard about in California?

>>82631518
Because who wants the movies they paid to see to be entertaining?

>>82631636

Well the Chinese invented fireworks so when you have a Chinese person have that as her power, it's like giving a Muslim sand powers a la Dust...

>>82631645
>entertaining
youre the cancer that is ruining cinema

>>82631645

It's not about entertainment, it's about the mythological *FUN* that people talk about, which usually translates to "it's not dark/serious, it's light hearted aimed at ages of four and up"

>>82631659
>what is The Dark Knight
>what is Days of Future Past

>inb4 TDK was before the MCU
and DoFP is what

>>82631645
>implying the genocide of goys is not entertaining

>>82631687
TDK was eight years ago. The paradigm has shifted since then. And wasn't the reception to DoFP wasn't particularly dark, and there were plenty of jokes.

>>82631659
I wonder what FUN stands for?
my suggestion would be
For
Uber
Nerds

>>82631687
A lot of people criticized DOFP for being grim/dark, which is why this movie has more jokes than usual

>>82620278
How did they make Tom Hardy look so young in that clip?

>>82620278
I am rooting for this to fail, but I gotta admit that's a better young Clark heat vision scene than what Snyder did.

>>82631746
X-Men failing will not bring it back to marvel

>>82620278
>Nightcrawler fighting in cage
>teleports right into electric fence
>doesn't just teleport out
I know there's some sort of suspension of disbelief going on for these movies but you can only let it go so far.

>>82631659
It's a natural course correction.

When the film noir of the early 50s got tiresome, bam, the epics of the 60s began.

When the blaxplotation and crime thrillers of the 70s went their course, in came the star wars and Beverly Hills cop esque blockbusters and comedies of the late 70s and 80s.

When the goofy blockbusters of the 90s became passe, we all turned to the more serious and dour films of the late 90s and 00s.

And now we move from that era to the more lighthearted and/or comedic films of today. It's not a problem, it's just a new day.

>>82624631
>because Psylocke's revealing warrior gear is beyond ludicrous. I know, I know, that’s how they looked in the comics. Unpopular opinion alert: I don't care.

FUCKING KEK.
>Make costume faithful to comics, get called out.

>Wolverine is never in his yellow blue spandex with raccoon mask in his 16 years playing the character. Most of the X-men wear black leather suits. Gets called out that costumes are nothing like the comics.

>>82631771
have you thought that he fights for money?

>>82631093
>>82631093
Can you read? He's not saying there are too many jokes, just that those jokes are almost the only thing that works

Plus he's specifically talking about self-referential jokes, like the other one that was mentioned where the kids watch Return of the Jedi and go "the 3rd movie is always the worse one!" as a reference to Last Stand

>>82631934
And I was wondering, if the movie is too light-hearted. That would be unlike x-men

>>82631878
Then why would he fucking touch the cage that he has experience fighting in that clearly has been always set up to electrocute whoever touches it?

>>82631981
because he is a retard. did you see his haircut?
but then again, it might also mean that there is some block that if you try to teleport outside of cage, you end up in cage. I don't know, I don't really think about it

>>82631878
Wasn't he forcibly thrown into the cage

>>82631767

No, but hopefully it'll convince them to start doing more creative smaller budgeted projects like Deadpool with the IP instead of making overbudgeted budgeted, safe, and braindead schlock like Apocolypse is shaping up to be.

The bigger the movie gets, the less risks they'll take with it. That's just how movie studios work.

>>82631934
>Plus he's specifically talking about self-referential jokes, like the other one that was mentioned where the kids watch Return of the Jedi and go "the 3rd movie is always the worse one!" as a reference to Last Stand


Ironically, it also applies to this new Younger X-Men trilogy thanks to Apocalypse.

>>82632141
Time will tell. DOFP was well received and it was a full-on Singer. While this movie is shaping up to be a wannabe Civil War

Before people will go hurray for apocalypse failing, I want you to realize that it will mean less new villains, and more mags / prof x

>>82632167

No, I think it will mean more low budget "riskier" projects like Deadpool in an attempt to get another MASSIVELY profitable hit using there characters without having to invest a quadrillion dollars into making giant a CGI clusterfuck.

>>82631862
Their complaint was be consistent which is entirely valid. If everyone had a comic costume it'd be fine but running around in the swimsuit while the heroes are in paintball gear is horseshit

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>>82626522
>By what measure is it a hidden anything?
And opening sequence was the best in the franchise.

>>82632167
One of the critique was that Apocalypse felt detached, and the movie still was about Mags/Prof X, with decades old argument of
>Eric, we CAN coexist with humans!
>No, Xavier, we CAN'T!
Singer just seems incapable of anything else.

>>82631862
From what I read that review, I think that the reviewer would complain less if Psylocke would wear that outfit even before she joined. Or at least if the outfit would get recolor by A Poe Calypse, not getting the outfit from scratch by his powers.

>>82631981
>>82631771
The questions should be: why he didn't teleported out of the box they were keeping him in?

>>82632007
>but then again, it might also mean that there is some block that if you try to teleport outside of cage, you end up in cage. I don't know, I don't really think about it
If they had a way to keep him inside the box, keeping him inside the cage should be a piece of cake.

>>82627108
Jubilee can't do math. She is the anti-Asian stereotype.

>>82632226
Not only that but Psylocke only has two lines, she's literally just there to be oggled at.
Psylockes and storms lines combined are less than Magneto's wife and daughters lines.

>>82627799
But it happens

I've never understood the praise for these movies. God knows I loved the first X-Men as a kid, but it's dated as hell. X2 is by far the best, but seriously held back by the biggest failing of the whole franchise, the inability to make more than three characters anything but wallpaper.

That's what really gets me about the movies. Theyre carried by two or three actors giving amazing performances while everyone else might as well not exist. And now that one of the main characters is Katniss Neverblue, I can't really bear to watch

>>82631004
>If it was any bit more lethal his power would have killed many people by accident.

Lethal force on Jock McBullyman from central casting there may have been deserved. If only for being such a damn stereotype. Only Flash Thompson should get away with that in a Marvel movie.

>>82631369
Maybe they'll eventually make a Gen X movie, and have Jubilee be a main character, ignoring the four other actresses to have played her.

>>82624297
This. It's okay to like things most people think are bad.

It gets obnoxious when you start delusionally spewing on about how only you are right and there's this big conspiracy to shit on the movies you fanboy for

>>82633477
Don't worry, her next movie role won't need her to be blue. She'll just need Tony Stark's swagger.

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>>82620278
>it's a "teacher is snarky and a douche for no reason" and "the jock bullies the protagonist "episode

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

These tropes never get old.

>>82628498
>I know I'm going to like the movie

You realize that makes you a fanboy whose opinion is irrelevant, right? I don't know why you think you're entitled to discussion when your opinions are predetermined by brand loyalty

Where are the spoilers?

>>82632226
never defend an sjw
EVER

>>82632197
no, they won't risk, and instead they will be even more formulaic

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>>82620278

>Are you winkin' at my girl?