What was the fucking point of telling backstories for minor characters

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why aren't you playing sugoistuck right now? only good thing to come out of the fanbase in ages

>>82576711
theyre all gags dude. every ancestor is a gag. the whole of mindfang's journal is an extended parody of ridiculous romantic adventure novels/fanfiction. sorry if you were too young when it came out to realise it was a joke, and took it seriously. anyway random lore is totally fun and doesnt need to be expanded on.

>>82577019
ipgd put your trip on

Why do we need a homestuck thread anyway? Yeah, some cool or lewd creations are made, but every thread boils down to:

>waaah I hate Vriska
>waaah why is Karkat's arc so shit
>my favorite character got shafted!
>Katnep spam dump
>Karkat more like Karkuck
>Are Karkat and (Vriska) demoted to Pages?
>I want to fuck Aradia!
>unga bunga why rose no do quest
>Davekat vs Davejade

Andrew is a better artist than he is a director. The big man wants it all, but he isn't focusing on where his game is strongest.

>>82577225
how the fuck did he manage problem sleuth?

>>82577249

That he was the only one in charge. He can do fine on his own. But when it comes to judging the effectiveness of others in the project, when it comes to choosing ideas among those he is working with, he isn't as strong. Not nearly. He does better when he works by himself.

>>82577171
What in the gosh darn heck is this?

>>82577264
supposedly the lilypad intermission was all him

>>82577268
/r/homestuck ironic dating sim with twists rivaling zero escape

Thinking of comissioning some songs for my fanventure planets. Is there someone who still do these? Like, original ost. Bowman quit homestuck and toby is swimming on money so if no options are avaliable im going for whoever composed terraria.

>>82577271

It can't possibly be though. Even if he is the one who wrote and came up with everything on the lilypad, he's already been collaborating with and bouncing ideas off of everyone around him. The process necessarily turned into a group project with Andrew at the lead. Which is what Andrew isn't as good at.

>>82577319
He's always claimed to be the only one involved in writing.

>>82577271

The last week wasn't, and that was far more important than any other part of the comic. Imagine if literally any other show/comic let this happen.

It was such a phenomenally bad choice and just underlined how much he had checked out since the Kickstarter.

>>82577358
>Imagine if literally any other show/comic let this happen.

That's how it usually happens, Hirsch didn't draw the last episode of Gravity Falls himself, he contributed to the storyboards and wrote what happened in them rougly.

>>82577322

Which is fine. But the pool of ideas is impactful. The influence of collaboration taints the product.

>>82577385

I haven't seen Gravity Falls, but how drastically different was the art?

Did it cut out dialogue, the thing that mostly made Homestuck famous in the first place?

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>official website shows 3D
http://hiveswap.com/
>official youtube trailer shows 3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptSacF8xb8k

>Obscure Kickstarter update in December says it's all 2D now LOL
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14293468/homestuck-adventure-game/posts/1453119

What the FUCK is going ON with this game?

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>>82577417

are these

on what planet are these the trolls

>>82576768
TEEHEE PAUL BLART

ANIME SCHOOL

TEEHEE PAUL BLART NO TEACHER

PAUL BLART NO ANIME

IS FUNNY

HEHEHE

>>82577468
Hey, the art there is good.

>>82577482
this is the kind of post reddit would find funny

>>82577402
are you fucking kidding me

mspa is a collaboration by its nature

>>82577483

Yeah, but if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bike.

How do you fuck up human trolls?

>>82577501

you can easily recognize who each of them is meant to be

>>82577451
god, as a fairly recent archival reader i dont get this issue people have with there being little dialogue in the ending. a6a6i5 dialogued us the fuck out. there was honestly way too much dialogue in that intermission. all the words were fucking said. going quiet after that was a good thing.

presumably you guys all read that a year ago and now you want more words, but god damn trust an archival reader here that that would NOT be a good idea.

>>82577534
i only got aradia by process of elimination, but the rest were discernable

>>82577575
>a6a6i5 dialogued us the fuck out

>pre-fight dialogue is the same as ending dialogue

ipgd go away

>>82577575
I think most people would agree with your sentiment in Act 6 being way too bloated with exposition dialogue, too much Vriska dictating to people. However, people were expecting more dialogue to wrap up story and character arcs, similar to how Dave and Dirk's scenes did for them. We didn't really get that for some of the other prominent characters which was and still is a damn shame.

>>82576711
The shitty series is over, stop making threads for it

>>82577616
>ipgd
>recent archival reader

damn dude

also im not shilling because i fucking mean it when i say a6a6i5 had way too much dialogue. it dragged horrifically and some of it was legit fucking awful (jasprose jesus christ). given everything i think a silent ending was the best choice

>>82577670
Nobody disagrees that it was awful, but something is better than nothing

>>82577575
>people expected dialogue in a flash
the most any flash has is six non continuous lines. not counting interactive ones, obviously

>>82577689
The terezi/vriska glitchy flash has about 30

>>82577677
>something is better than nothing
honestly, if Hussie just out and said 'Homestuck is cancelled' with no ending at some point in the twelve months prior to Act 7, I don't think I would have felt much different.

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>>82577728
I wouldn't feel much either. Once the alpha/beta whatever kids were introduced I was out of energy to care. Specially with the introduction of dancestors.
I just wanted to keep reading about the kids and see the trolls in a seperate story instead.[/spoilers]

>>82577760
The site also says Jailbreak is unfinished. He just doesnt care to update it.

>>82577725
touche, I'd forgotten about that

>ipgd's room is so shitty that she has a mice problem
>she goes back to sleep

>>82577846
>:33 < nyat wanting to wake up with a tasty purreakfast

Is Karkat really a Page now?

>that panel where Kanaya bonked him hard on the head to knock him out

>>82578217
I really need this inversion meme to die.

>>82577019
i love how hussie thinks being meta and ~ironic~ is more important than actually writing a story. its totally satisfying and great.

>>82578253
Homestuck is already dead.

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>Got a warning yesterday for calling vriska best girl

>>82577494
and yet i only ever see them on 4chan

>>82577316
Clark Powell takes commissions.

http://plazmataz.tumblr.com/commission

>>82578366
>got banned for discussing that one furry scat microphilia scat fetishist that is the lead art dev of Hiveswap

at least it was only for one day and on /co/ rather than the usual ban that is 3 days across all boards for using eridan's quirk. thing is, that was completely on topic.

>>82578370
$50 for something like Serenade with full rights? That's... actually a pretty cool deal.

This Sugoistuck, this Reddit shitpost in VN form seems to at least have good Nep art.

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>>82577417

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oh man
where could this be going

>>82578498
Noice

I know how to get straight lines, but isnt getting the margins right a bit of a pain?

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>>82578498
This?

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>>82578498
>kids using flight casually

>>82578498
>be Karkat
>get cucked this hard
Holy shit

>>82577468
it's hilarious how you get triggered when somebody draws non-caucasian characters
it's not even trying to be DIVERSE, they just made Feferi black for fuck's sake

>>82578498
john SLAMS the door and storms away, muttering "why is everyone such a fucking queer" under his breath
by which I mean, he uses his breath powers send his message to everyone in the known universe

>>82578370
Tought the music team got royalities from each album bought.

>>82578533
its an extreme pain in the ass

>>82578561
one more panel will have it
its really really underused
and one of my favorite things

>>82578568
i know man
im tempted to make the last panel just karkat crying in the hallway

>>82578580
>it's not even trying to be DIVERSE
>they just made Feferi black
RIP /co/ 2016
it had to end sometime

>>82578498
this is My Fucking fetish

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>>82578580
>>82578682
I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be a gyaru,

>>82578749
Well either you're incredibly wrong or the artist doesn't actually know what a gyaru is

>>82578682
>they just made Feferi black
her ancestor is troll nicki minaj

>>82578799
Not even
Meenah, and condy, sounded like total posers who adopted that way of speaking to make them seem cooler/tougher
condy just has big hair, it seems more like she's just from the south than nicki minaj

>>82578498
Likely a double homicide from John "Slay the Gay" Egbert. Good shit though, your John just casually floating in works wonders, as does Terezi's ample fun bags given she's usually portrayed as a bit flat.

>>82578498
John gets cucked

>>82578766
Well it would explain the dark skin, light hair and light makeup

I can't think what else the artist would be going for

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Should Andrew Hussie be put down for his own good?

>>82578646
>i know man
>im tempted to make the last panel just karkat crying in the hallway
Please do, guy needs to suffer a bit to get the weenie out of him.

>>82578853
No but that's not gyaru
specifically the dark skin is ganguro, but ganguro girls wouldn't wear light colors like that
they are more flashy/neon with crazy colored highlights, long press on nails, and no panties

the artist was going for a black girl in a princess lolita outfit

>>82578887
Pardon me, ganguro was what I meant

>>82577459
Someone needs to do a fucking gaming news site articlebor someshit on this travesty to show them how badly they're fucking up

>>82578914
It's still not ganguro

>>82578498
Are Terezi and John going to have their way with Roxy's feet?

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>>82578880
i dont think i could do it
karkat is still dear to me

>>82578851
i dont think so

>>82578646
How many pages is it going to be?

>>82577459
just want to say i really appreciate you not letting people forget kickstarteranon

>>82579002
>johns glasses

Hah!

>>82579007
just one
i'm already giving them more panels than they paid for, ive never really done a comic before, i need to learn how to approach it better

>>82577575

dialogue would explain what happened in the ending

instead of 50 or so major interpretations

>>82579058
are you going to draw them in a way that doesn't show the privates like last time

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>>82577019
You're pretty much just straight up fuckin wrong. Like everything else in Homestuck, there are humorous elements mixed in with the serious stuff.

>>82579086
i did my damnedest to show as much as i could with the specific pose they asked for
people who like boobs are in luck
and i want you to know, you specifically anon
me and glub sketched out the main pose and he showed even less genitals, this one is tough!

is there any pawfeet art that's GOOD?

>>82578841
So she's Iggy?

>>82579143
You got help by glub?

>>82579181
i run most things by him while im working on them if i can.
he's got a really good eye and sense of gesture/anatomy

>>82579205
Ah, thats nice teamwork.

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>>82579164
i like this one

>>82579261
He looks way younger there.

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Reminder that Jake's eyes are attached to his glasses.

>>82579303
same for John, his eyes come off during Game Over

>>82579137
yeah but all that shit is a joke too

these are some deep levels of irony we operatin on

>>82579323
and Jane

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I get really nervous thinking about corrupting sweet, innocent Kanaya. There's something wrong with me on many levels.

>>82578646
>wanting Karkat to cry in the hallway
>not Vriska

>>82576711
There is no point.
That comic is just genuinely bad.

>>82577119
We do it because we want you to kill yourself, anon.

I WAS KEKED!

>>82579342
you're right
Homestuck is a joke

>>82579377
first of all being that K'naya isn't real

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>>82579377

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Here's the best pairing, you can all stop fighting about it now.

>>82579465
uhhhhh
not sure what you're telling me here, buddy

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>>82579468
>not AR making sweet love to the handle
move over, best obscure homestuck glasses shipping reference coming through

>>82579205
you realize he wants the v right

Vast Croak - Prospitian reference to the Genesis Frog
Vast Joke - Dersite reference to the Genesis Frog
Vast Honk - What Lord English says on birth
Vast Glub - A psychic shockwave that kills all trolls, released by Gl'bgolyb
Vast Expletive - What the sufferer yells during his torture

do you think that Lord English never speaks because he can't control the honks

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>>82579630
but he speaks just fine when hunting damara

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>>82579627

>>82579377
i wish kanaya was this cute in the comic. or had something resembling a personality.

>>82579675
I hope that's a condescending "I know" eri

>>82578498
I forgot the kids could fly.

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So what were Vriska's sources in the end?
Having her literally solve the entire story, okay, fair enough, I can almost understand.
But at least fucking explain HOW she does it. Did Hussie even have something in mind?
It's not the kind of answer you get in an epilogue. Are we stuck speculating on cueball/Droogs/Derse/Horrorterror bullshit forever?

>>82579792
Andrew Hussie, The Author, was her sources

>>82579792
Her sources were her travelling to the future and getting to see what happens.

>>82579792

time travel

i mean, the fact that any old sod can grab a pair and go around fixing shit sort of devalues the time aspect, but gamzee already did a thorough job of that so whatever

>>82579819
SO META.
JUST BRILLIANT!

>>82579792
Sources on what? I need my memory refreshed.

Otherwise, I'd go with what the others are saying and answer 'time travel'. She did mention that she looked ahead into the future for what would happen.

>>82579883
O N E Y A R D

>>82579883

remember that one time hussie's self-insert said that he understood meddling in the story himself was a risky business, and that his intervention would be restricted to precisely one yard

and then he saved a character from death and delayed the final boss' defeat personally

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does anyone else really want to fuck the condesce or is it just me

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>>82579792

>>82579918
where do you think you are

>>82579904
Hell, he even guided and mentored Caliborn during his quest. The idea of making the Felt a gang? It was his idea. That's the brilliant backstory behind the Felt, guys. The Author told a character he should do it.

>>82579819
i swear hussie canonically brought her back so he could fuck her. (vriska) turned him down one too many times so he got a new one to try and get it on with while simultaneously fucking up (vriska)'s happy new life. then he gave her all the story shit she needed to know to be the star she always wanted to be and she STILL turned him down. damn

>>82579918
All that hair IS a huge turn on.

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I WISH VRISKA NEVER CAME BACK

I WISH TEREZI REUNITED WITH ME IN THE DREAMBUBBLES AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR (VRISKA)

I WISH I WASN'T DAVE'S DEVELOPMENT TOOL #2 AND SEX TOY

I WISH I WAS PERMADEAD IN THE COMIC AND IRL

>>82579651
uhm....70?

also when am I gonna use these sorts of equations as a chef for the Betty Crocker corporaiton?

>>82579918
>implying people who don't want to fuck the condesce even exist
>>82579951
>That's the brilliant backstory behind the Felt, guys. The Author told a character he should do it.
I'm glad someone else noticed this bullshit, i'd like to say having caliborn personally talking to hussie was the most self absorbed thing in the comic, but that davepeta thing about selfies might top it

>>82579261
Legs too big, he's like a fucking trex

>>82580014

you don't get points for answering when the answer is right there on the image

>>82580028
I just want to make diabetic treats for children.

I never asked for this

Problem Sleuth > HS
Discuss

>>82580017
>i'd like to say having caliborn personally talking to hussie was the most self absorbed thing in the comic
There was people here that liked that part,but it's just so BAD. All that intermission was pure crap, I couldn't deal with all that meta wankery.

>>82580075
i liked that part for caliborn exploring a desolate environment all by himself. hussie's stupid fucking self-insert ruined it.

>>82579854
>>82579873
imagine if she didn't have absurd meme luck and the future turned out to go horribly wrong
>vriska serket's bullshit ideas doom everyone AGAIN

but yeah DUDE PREDESTINATION LMAO would make a decent answer if we had, well, actually seen future vriska overseeing the battles in the background. and that requires hussie not being a hack with a crush on his mary sue.

this reminds me. i miss time travel being this horrifying and dangerous shit that resulted in your own corpse ending up in your bedroom.
maybe things stopped having consequences, and as a result the story lost its stakes, and that contributed to late act 6 being shit.

>>82579651
>>82580014
>>82580028
That angle is clearly not 70º.

>>82580075
Imagine if DOC SCRATCH had been the one to talk to Caliborn, instead of Hussie.
God, it would have been fucking perfect.

>>82580075
I liked it for caliborn, but of all the people for caliborn to interact with, Hussie was the worst possible one
why didn't he antagonize the players like the trolls did? or maybe yell at the condesce or something like fuck, anything but talking to the author

>>82580089
I mean, Caliborn wasn't the reason it was shit, obviously.

>>82576711
I dont think theres anything wrong with it normally. Fleshing out a world like that even if it doesnt make direct relevance to the plot is still a good thing. Hussie just had the problem of setting up the expectation that everything that ever happened would have major impact on the play

>>82580098
okay. I got it this time.

turning in a blank sheet. Fuck this class.

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>>82580094
>future vriska overseeing the battles
>future vriska laughing her ass off at the Clover vs Karkat fight

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

>>82580182

god, i don't know why hussie decided to start shitting on karkat so hard

imagine if he'd been the one running everything with time travel and finally coming into his own as a leader

there's no reason it had to be vriska

>>82580094
>actually seen future vriska overseeing the battles in the background. and that requires hussie not being a hack with a crush on his mary sue.
now that all that's left is the epilogue (lol) is there literally any possible room for vriska to appear and gain all that information?

>>82580075
i guess it was sposed to be ok since caliborn is a 'meta' character? or something like this. hussie interacts directly with caliborn, lord english, doc scratch because all of these characters are removed from the kids/trolls story somehow. they are all authoring and self-inserting their way into the story rather than actually being a part of it. vriska also ascends to this level somehow by the end when she becomes a true Mary Sue.

im like 90% certain he fucked up in actually pulling this off effectively. but this is what i think he was trying to do.

ipgd is the ghostwritter for this late part of Act 6
that's why Dave is gay
that's why Jake got bullied with no consequences

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So, what made Hussie think it was a good idea to give Terezi slutty feet?

"No consequences" is a recurring them in late Homestuck
>No consequence for people dying
>No consequences for time travel
>No consequences for being abusive

Hmm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN7uBqKSwcc

>>82580353
hussie lived a life without hardship, it's a story about growing up written by someone who never needed to

>>82580291
It really does feel like after Game Over, Hussie just took some rando, gave them Act 7, and told them "I don't care what you write, just have John retcon everything so that the ending animation makes sense."

>>82580353
These things don't have consequences because we're not supposed to care. We're not supposed to care about the characters or drama or development or the game or any of that, and the author mocks us when we do.

Except getting the audience to care in some way is literally what an author's goal should be. Hussie hit gold with zero effort and because of that he didn't appreciate it.

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this art is making me feel funny

>>82579918
she has a lot more hair in that panel than any other scene in the comic

>>82580353
what are you fucking five

do you need the bad guys to all get grouped up and put in the bad guys circle where they get tattooed with reddit memes and the main characters point and laugh at them

bad shit happens all the time with no consequences whatsoever

>>82580369
better than what we'll actually get

>>82580467
i don't think you get what that anon meant by consequences

>>82580467
All of Homestuck's themes revolve around a central premise of fatalism

It literally does not matter what you do, a fickle god will judge your actions arbitrarily and will either fuck you up or give you glory for no discernible reason

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post images that look like they could be lands

>>82580536
yep

>>82580563
therefore there are no consequences for your actions
just bad things happening randomly to random people regardless of their alignment

>>82580604
yep. thats homestuck baby. if your moral code requires you to only read fiction where everyone is exactly as successful as the total of all their positive actions best to not read this shit

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gay

>>82580684
I don't think you understand. I'm not saying it's immoral. I'm saying it's bad. It's about as satisfying as a marvel movie. You can't even get catharsis from a "bad things happen to good people" kind of tragic message because literally nothing matters in Homestuck. There's no rhyme or reason at all. Just some stuff happens and then The End.

>>82580125
i guess it was a 'you had to be there' thing

remember the speculation over what that glowing red thing in the distance was? god fuck you andrew.

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>>82580548
Land of Steeps and Rivers

>>82580684
>>82580467
deadass suspect this is IPGD

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>>82580548
Land of Shade and Glow

>>82580467

the major difference between real life and fiction is that fiction is presented to an audience for consumption and is therefore required to be satisfying at the very least

saying a story doesn't need to be satisfying because real life often isn't is like saying houses don't need to be structurally sound because caves aren't

>>82580824
caves are pretty strong dude
source: ur mums vag lol

Characters who need to be bullied:

>>82580873
pls no bullying in the homestuck thread

>>82580876
>>82580898
POTTERY

>>82580876
Rose, Vriska, and Cronus.

>>82580876
Eridan
by HIC

>>82580373
>it's a story about growing up written by someone who never needed to
This is the best summary of Homestuck I've ever seen

>>82580752
holy fucking shit ive been called ipgd twice before in this thread despite writing a couple paragraphs on how shit i thought the lead up to the end was. your opinions are just fucking dumb. if i cant tell someone theyre retarded on 4chan where can i say it

>>82580824
but why is everyone sorting everything out and being totally emotionally adjusted and happy "satisfying" to anyone. the main problem with act 6 was the dumb angst and moralising. we were better off when dave's bro was an horrifying maniac and that was played for laughs, and jack/spades ran around stabbing people for no reason and it was a gag instead of the TOTALLY SERIOUS PAGES LONG EMOTIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT EVERYONES TINY ISSUES

>>82580950
Get out of here ipgd.

>>82580604
>>82580684
I think there's a misunderstanding. Karma? That's not what I'm talking about though.
Yes, in Homestuck bad things happen to good people, good things happen to good people, that doesn't bother me. It can make for cool stories.

I'm not complaining about the lack of justice, I'm complaining about:
1. Lack of stakes. If your dead characters keep existing and are easily brought back, death loses its shock value. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing!
But it will, for instance, make fights, dramatic sacrifices, choosing murder as the lesser of two evils, etc. much less exciting. If you're relying on those to elicit reactions in your reader, you'll need to shift things up, and either make death threatening again, or change your formula. Hussie did neither.
2. Lack of verisimilitude. Homestuck characters are made of magic, but they also act like human beings.
If they completely ignore somebody bullying a close friend within hearing distance, and it's never touched upon or explained, they feel less real. It's pretty disturbing.

So nah, I don't need the villains to be rounded up and lowered into a vat of boiling karma, I'm talking about the things that hold the story together. Do you see my point?

>>82580950
>holy fucking shit ive been called ipgd twice before in this thread despite writing a couple paragraphs on how shit i thought the lead up to the end was. your opinions are just fucking dumb. if i cant tell someone theyre retarded on 4chan where can i say it
don't mind him anon, i've been called rachel, ipgd and a wp employee at least once each despite shitting on homestuck relentlessly, it's just something you learn to tune out

>>82580993
shut up, wonk

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>>82580548
Land of Vapor and Waves

>>82581000
i've been called that too i think, it's hard to keep track

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Are we still mad about the ending?

>>82580950
>everyone sorting everything out and being totally emotionally adjusted and happy "satisfying" to anyone.
you just described the ending that we got

I agree with you, Homestuck was good as a gag story... because it didn't take itself seriously. Hussie took it in a different direction. He wanted it to have a lot of dramatic elements. He wanted to write a serious story that could be taken seriously as literature. In that respect, he failed. The funny parts in Act 6 are still funny! Like, REALLY funny. But they're buried under a lot of stuff that Hussie isn't good at. That's what I'm complaining about. Hussie knows how to write a funny story. He doesn't know how to write a satisfying one.

>>82579542
it even looks like a smuppet

>>82581012
>[muffled plagiarism in the distance]

>>82581068
>Murica not DOOM

>>82581068
What kind of people have time aspect

>>82580707
slime boys suck
gimme slime girls instead

>>82581068
Finland is a FREE land

>>82580213
>real people don't have arcs, numbnuts
>wew

>>82578498
OHH MY GOOOODDDD

Do the kids in the new universe get treated like the olympic gods? Do they all just become nihilistic assholes messing with the carapacians for shits and giggles? If so, where do the trolls fall in there?

>>82580983
ok then honestly i agree with most of what you say.

re: lack of stakes, i don't think the condesce did enough to be the 'final boss' of the kids' quest that she was in retrospect intended to be. jack noir was terrifying for the first half of the comic, and lord english got a ton of focus through scratch and caliborn, but somehow we were sposed to accept that they were gonna be dealt with indirectly and get all our catharsis from the defeat of the condesce. but she just wasnt a big deal enough to us as readers for us to be satisfied with that

>>82581196
who cares

>>82581068
>Life
Huh. What decides which country gets which aspect?

>>82581202
>condesce is the antagonist of the troll race
>only one troll even fights her
man i hated that

>>82581243
>we get blueballed for actual literal years to see the conversation of all the kids meeting in person
>its never happens
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HATE

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>>82581202
>condesce wasn't built up enough, nor had enough story presence
>Jack was a great villain but forgotten by the narrative
>Caliborn focused on a lot, never really does villainous things other than hurting feelings
>Scratch killed off by author's self insert
>Lord English only ever killed ghosts


G O O D

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>>82579918
Our Queen has absolutely top tier everything.

Condy >>>>>>>> ara, damara, vriskshit, aranea etc.

>>82578498
>>82579002
Do you have a site where you post your pics?

>>82579873
It should really be only time players who can do that.

Damara can send Gamzee to raise the cherubs because that sounds like something a Witch of Time could do and Gamzee was already in the bubbles interacting with the Beforus trolls, Aradia can be the one who knows everything in the endgame

>>82581268
>kids never got to pose as a team 'cause shit just got real
Hussie deserves death

>>82581243
she did just as much to fuck up the lives of the alpha kids, too, to be fair to her. roxy got the final blow, and that DID feel good. just maybe not good enough compared to how we'd have felt to see jack get taken down back when he was at the height of his rampage. or how we might have felt to have actually seen lord english get punted into the black hole

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thats enough for today, time for sleep

>>82581316
yup
paradoxjelli.tumblr.com
nsfw-pj.tumblr.com

>>82581370
Oh No its the Tentacle Willy

>>82581370
Nice its that porn I bought

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>>82581370
Nice.

>>82580983
For me it's not a matter of "justice". We got justice. The villains all died, that's justice. The problem is that Hussie wanted us to pretend that justice matters after telling us for seven years that none of the characters have agency.

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>>82581387
its what they wanted man

>>82581414
aw yeah, getting there
the rest should go pretty quickly

I just realized that I only come to this thread for the pictures. I'm truly disengaged from the story now, and just want to see nice art of the characters and lands.

so this is what being a tumblr is like

>>82581370
>tentabulge

>>82581414
>tentabulge

>>82581196
no. that was always karkat's delusions of grandeur. It was never gonna happen, and the trolls got punished for thinking it was. all the players are just citizens of the new planet, same as the carapacians.

Which came out first, black or liquid negrocity?

>>82581370
Sweet thanks

>>82581617
black is a remix of liquid negrocity

>>82577417
It's funny because unlike a lot of these I can actually tell who they're actually supposed to be.

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Stabdads were pretty cool.

>>82581611
They have magic powers in the new universe, and are conditionally immortal. Like gods of legend they can't die unless they go out like heroes or villains

They're gods.

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>>82581414
>tentacle dick

>>82581595
And I'm going to get off to it
Buy your own porn then Chaddo

>>82581673
they're superheroes. none of them believe themselves to be gods, even if they have the title of "god tier". nobody else believes them to be gods either, as both the carapacians and the consorts described them as heroes.

>>82581068
>uganda, nigeria, sierra leona, etc
>not having blood aspect

They sure know hoe to weaponize blood, with all the HIV and ebola around

>like tentacle porn
>like shemale porn
tentabulges are great

>>82581433
And not just that, we got a pretty limited amount of justice, honestly. Jack Noir and Vriska got to do everything they wanted, are still alive and will likely never face consequences (not even legal ones, like a trial, or social ones in Vriska's case, like rejection).
GCATavrosprite will probably suffer forever, unless they manage to keep him on a steady supply of placebo buttons or whatever. Spades Slick will never come back.

AR did not die for this shit.

>>82581744
hussie being a marvel fanboy is responsible for like 10% of the ills of the comic. garbage taste begats garbage.

>>82581859
>muh justice

read a fucking fairy tale

>>82581762
they're always these flimsy tapering things though

the best tentacles are phallic

>>82581912
They're supposed to be a cross between a dick and a clit

>>82581068
>discover new lands and get fucktons of gold and silver
>this inflates and fucks over the economy
>inherit tons of territories throughout europe
>religious war all over, our army deteriorates into irrelevance
>king dies with no heir
>this starts a civil war and a continental war
>make our first constitution and drive the french invasion away
>asshole tyranical king comes back, and our colonies independize
>get shithole colony as a french present
>lose wars against stick and stone armed moroccan shepherds
>no country wants to get involved on civil war in fear of starting WWII
>WWII starts a few months after the civil war's end

>Spain
>Anything to do with luck

"The history of Spain is the saddest one, for you know how it ends"
--José Mota, spanish comedian

>>82580950
The problem is that you're treating Homestuck as a gag comic when it treats itself way more seriously than that.

It's almost impressive how far up its own ass Homestuck goes. If it was just a gag comic a la One Punch Man no one would care, but if you managed to steal several million dollars from your fanbase because of all the drama and stakes that you inserted into your own comic then you can't just pretend it always was one.

WAHHHHHH WHY DIDN'T THE CHARACTERS GET ALL THE ENDING THEY DESERVE AND WHY DID BAD CHARACTERS SUCCEED WHILE GOOD CHARACTERS FAILED

>>82581928
I didn't realise clitoris are shaped like floppy unicorn horns

>>82582020
What

>>82581890
spoken like someone who has never actually read a fairy tale

>>82581912
>wants a bulge with the versatility of your average dildo
man dildos already exist
imagine an organ with the sensitivity of a clitoris that is fully controllable, can fit almost anywhere and is extremely well lubricated. plus half the time the idea is it comes with a vagina as a bonus
how can you not want porn of that

>>82581890
Act 7 is literally a fairy tale ending, for fuck's sake. The big bad guys died, and they all lived happily ever after, etc.
If Homestuck had a genuine bittersweet ending I would have loved that.
Instead we get this bullshit saccharine ending that pretends everything is OK and sweeps the awful implications under the rug.
And that's shit writing.

>>82582020
>muh samefaggotry

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>>82582020

>>82582020
go to bed, anon

so wait are people starting now to call the ending not bad or something

>>82582044
>>82582054
>>82582056
trolled

>>82582020
>WHY DID BAD CHARACTERS SUCCEED WHILE GOOD CHARACTERS FAILED
this literally did not happen
why do you keep saying this

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>>82582020
End yourself.

>>82582047
they remind me of banana slugs

awful creatures

>>82582044
>>82582054
>>82582056
>>82582074
>>82582083
>>82582087
trolled hard

>>82582080
I don't feel trolled.

When did tentabulges become a thing anyway

Homestuck is such a deep and complex story, people will be debating for ages whether or not it's a story about justice or tragedy.

>>82577417
I'm actually okay with this, except Vriska's Hair.

>>82582131
> story about justice or tragedy
Both. Debate is over.

>LOL HE TOOK LE MEME BAIT
I can't wait for Homestuck threads to get banned again

>>82582151
but everyone was happy in the end, how can it be a tragedy

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>>82582047
i am just a simple man that likes big dicks and troll noodles just don't fulfill that need

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>>82582152
You could always just not come here, you know.

>>82582152
I'm down for HST getting banned again because all you guys do is bitch now.

No purpose in having a general dedicated to bitching.

>>82582184
if you want apologists and sycophants then try anywhere but 4chan

>>82581370
>tentalbulges

NOT EVEN ONCE

>>82582200
You're as bad as the endless PPG threads.

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>>82582181
That's not how 4chan works.

>>82582214
I have no idea what you mean by that
because I ignore threads I'm not interested in
because I'm not a colossal douche

>>82582184
Go and be a whiny faggot somewhere else

>>82581617
Jesus Christ, how PŔŐMBĽĔMĀŤÍÇ.
*Liquid African-American City.

>>82582214
just go to reddit where you downvote everyone who dares disagree with you

>>82582246
African-American is problematic now too
Liquid Person of Color City

>>82582047
Spin it however you want, but tentabulges aren't hot at all.

>>82582054
what? no. for all its flaws the ending is bittersweet as fuck. its still inevitable that the earth will die and caliborn be born. its still inevitable that the kids will live forever and their troll friends will die, and they'll finally teleport off to get the shit kicked out of them/sealed in a box for all time. its still inevitable that all the dream bubbles will be smashed and everything sucked into a black hole forever. that shits all gonna happen. thats bittersweet as fuck. they just got a happy 'ending' that will last for a while.

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What weird taste not necessarily fetish you dirty fuck! did you acquire or develop during the time you were reading Homestuck?

For me it's horses. No not in a fedorawearing ponyfucker way, I don't think I even want to get near one I think I might scare them or something. Just kind of...a e s t h e t i cally. They get played for jokes a lot, and they do have some disgusting features, but they can be quite majestic too. Their strength and stamina were used for thousands of years by humans for warfare and agriculture an shit.

Even though nowadays they have pretty much outgrown their usefulness we still keep them around. I never payed any attention to horses before reading HS, they were just kinda like... furniture to me. Just kind of there. Guess it helped that this sweatbag is my favourite.

Did I become Hussie?

>>82582330
>skaianet won
better luck next cycle goyim

>>82582330
nice headcanons man

>>82582352
Muscles. Big, imposing, well-muscled characters who are pretty much unstoppable forces of nature, at least under normal circumstances. I enjoy the aesthetic.

>>82582369
read the comic

>>82582352
Quick question: do you love being STRONG?

>>82582330
inevitability isn't bittersweet, it's just dumb
the whole story was "this isn't a typical sburb game. this isn't a typical sburb game. this isn't a typical sburb game."
then the ending was "this is a typical sburb game. they cycle continues"
it wasn't tragic it was just pointless

>>82582352
>I think I might scare them or something
The opposite is far more likely

>>82582369
youre a tarded

>>82582330
you know what else is inevitable
death
but Beauty and the Beast isn't bittersweet just because one day Belle is going to die

>>82582427
if beast was gonna live forever and beauty was gonna die and this was alluded to in the film, their romance would be bittersweet

>>82582352
I always thought "sucked into the video game world" stories were lame

>>82582352
i realised i really like it when people try really fucking hard to make dumb shit. the harder they try and the more skilled they are the dumber it is, but the better it is too.

>>82582466
not really
as with most things it depends on presentation
if you read a porno where a hot lady gets it on with the lord of the underworld or something then that shit doesn't just become bittersweet on concept alone

Real talk: horses are smelly and dumb

>>82582525
I think porn is an exception to most firms of writing.

>>82582577
I still wouldn't say that it's automatically bittersweet for gods to date mortals
like mortality is an issue in all romance, it's not like once you become romantically entangled, you're heart-linked til part do you death
some people are exceptionally great at dealing with their own mortality or the mortality of their loved ones too

also consider: homestuck never once touches on these themes of mortality and relationships. Furthermore, if it did, it would be in linked to friendship, not romance

>>82582525
the only happy ending anyone needs in porn is the characters fucking. implications are irrelevant. if the porn for some reason spent half its run time on the inner emotions of the characters and the lord of the underworld was like damn gurl i totes adore you and then BAM you saw him crying over her grave, i dunno about you but id have a pretty fuckin bittersweet boner. crying milky semen tears.

>>82582246
>African-American
I'm a motherfuckin' nigga man, I ain't all that African-American shit
Fuck that I'm a nigga, I ain't mixed I'm a nigga
N-I-G-G-A, nigga

>>82582395
Exactly. The ending clashed tonally with the rest of the story. The overarching theme of it (at least during Acts 3-6; during 1 the game hadn't really started and during 2 we were seeing the groundwork of what a typical game looks like so it could be subverted later) was that shit had gone off the rails. Then suddenly we hop back on the rails at the last second for no fucking reason.

>>82582701
what is up my nigger

>>82582536
>dumb
Not dumb, that depends on each invidual horse and the breed of that horse
>smelly
Yes horses smell fucking horrible, but they do shit in little neat piles instead of shit stew like cows do

>>82582352
Homestuck got me really interested in worldbuilding and stuff like that. From a sburb standpoint it made me consider how gameplay elements could influence a story, even if Homestuck was a comic instead of a game.

It also made me realize how little worldbuilding Homestuck had in the end.

>>82582721
it feels fuckin weird reading people type something like 'Acts 3-6' as if each act is somewhat equal, as opposed to acts 5 and 6 being a quarter and half the comic respectively.

>>82582352
Homestuck was my first real foray into the world of metafiction. Even though it wound up doing a pretty bad job in that department it primed me for better uses.

It also influenced a lot about the way I talk and type, especially with regards to profanity.

>>82582330
But that's all IMPLICATIONS.
Which is my exact point. That none of the shit you're talking about got acknowledged. No character talked about it, nothing.
Hence: swept under the rug, and buried under tons of fancy pajamas, glowy frogs, and picnics.

>>82582395
Remember how Calliope implied they were meant to break the cycle?
Yeah. Damn it.

>>82582981
what, you want them to angst over it? i find implications more powerful than explicit confirmation of this sort of bad times shit. i have issues with the ending but that isnt one of them.

>>82583042
Not that anon, but I want it to be ACKNOWLEDGED. Not even by the characters, necessarily, just acknowledged at all.

And the characters can talk about it without angsting over it.

i'm sick of retards misunderstanding the ending, hussie should break his silence

>>82583042
the way the ending is conveyed, it's less like hussie was trying to imply something bittersweet and more like he just didn't give a shit and didn't want to change the ending that had been in development for four years. It's that incongruity of tone that makes the "bittersweet" interpretation unsatisfying.

I mean every story is good in our own personal fanfiction of it. Hussie failed to deliver an actual ending and basically threw a bunch of pieces at us and told us to make up whatever we wanted.

>>82577459
Hussie is curling up in a tiny ball under his bed surrounded by money, in the dark, ignoring his phone. this game has turned into a mire of failure.

Also, please notice that her model does not get smaller as she walks towards the background. It's litterally just an animated drawing with a drop shadow. If you made her walk to the door at the back of the hall, she would all of a sudden be larger than the door itself.

>>82582352
When I first read homestuck I basically ploughed through it as fast as possible and glazed over a lot of shit. So now when I read stuff I try to take more of it in

>>82583118
Hussie breaking all communication with the fanbase is pretty sad. What did we do to him? Besides giving him millions of dollars for some project he never updates us on, of course.

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>>82583147
That's important.

"Bittersweet" doesn't mean that things are happy on-screen but maybe something unhappy will happen later off-screen. "Bittersweet" means there are happy things and unhappy things that are happening right now. Like surviving your loved ones after a traumatic event. You have to experience the good and the bad together.

We don't call it bittersweet when you eat a bar of milk chocolate and then eat a bar of unsweetened chocolate.

>>82583294
What if the ending isn't bittersweet, but soursweet? Or saltysweet?

>>82583322
well there's definitely a lot of salt to go around

>>82583369
That word has lost all meaning. It's a non-word now. You might as well just say "Karkat fans are shitty".

I don't understand how Hussie could've failed so badly on the game when he had a massive fanbase. I mean, people probably would've volunteered to do work on the game for free just for the thrill of "oh my god I'm working on the Homestuck game" just like people make expansive mods for free all the time.

Today I printed off a page of Homestuck and took a shit on it and it was the best shit I ever took

>>82583420
People working partially for free is exactly what happened in the beginning o What Pumpkin Studios.

All other problems stem from personal hubris and sheer bad luck.

>>82583294
you are correct, experiencing emotions over things that are tragic that are strongly implied in a text requires an 'imagination' and its some serious fucking ablist shit to only let people with one get to have those emotions

>>82583483
That's not how stories work. I can imagine whatever I want, but Hussie failed to create a tone and atmosphere that was conducive to feeling catharsis. The bittersweet ending was ineffective because it only exists as an indirect conclusion as a result of logical thought. The characters don't remark on it at all and no one ever expresses concern regarding their fates or mortality.

>>82583483
You know, people are generally disturbed when they notice fucked up, unacknowledged implications in a story that's meant to be (or end) genuinely happy.
Why do you think everybody and their grandmother hates 50 Shades of Grey? I'll give you a hint, it's not just the plagiarism and horrible writing.

>>82583420
>I mean, people probably would've volunteered to do work on the game for free
That doesn't really work. If you want to make a serious game, you gotta pay people.

Hussie gave us a premise for writing bittersweet fanfiction. He didn't give us a bittersweet ending.

>>82583613
how did that work out for him

>>82583580
yeah but all the endings 'bitter' implications are pretty well spelled out for you in the end of homestuck and its clear that they are intended and not some kind of random realisation by nerds who overthink things.

>>82583656
>its clear that they are intended
do you have any actual evidence that this is case?

the ending actually looks pretty open-ended, all of the kids have a way to bounce back from the events of caliborn's masterpiece and it's not like the trolls couldn't eventually gain immortality through shenanigans

>>82583656
>but all the endings 'bitter' implications are pretty well spelled out for you in the end of homestuck
Then when does masterpiece, an event trapping the betas for possibly an infinite amount of time in a weapon while the alphas eventually fade away in a doomed empty timeline, occur?
Show me where in the comic other than 'later' that this non-trivial event occurs

yeah John is just going to let his mortal friends die instead of warping them to a quest bed

>VRISKA: Guess we'll find out!

>>82583656
I dunno, things like the obscure fate of doomed selves (especially the GO cast + post-retcon Roxy and John), SBURB's questionable cycle of destruction continuing, all 8 kids possibly dying after the masterpiece, Vriska living her dream life in impunity without being really happy, Jake convincing himself he's worth nothing, GCATavros being condemned to a life of suffering, etc. don't seem exactly "spelled out" to me.
But maybe it's just a matter of perspective. I remember Terezi's horrible mental state being acknowledged, but she didn't even appear in the ending, so to me it sounds suspiciously like the sadder aspects of the ending were tossed aside voluntarily.

>>82583736
it happens 'later'. what the fuck else do you need to know? the happy ending is false, because eventually the masterpiece has to happen.

>>82583830
Implications are that Terezi killed herself.

If you look at SBURB another way, it's actually just a way for Carapaces to invade and conquer universes.

I just hope Caliborn gets the happy ending he deserves for having been the best character

>>82583886
No it wasn't. That's your personal fanfiction. Terezi looked perfectly happy standing on the lilypad and acted relatively fine since the retcon.

>>82583830
you say em so you know theyre there. i do agree that he intentionally didnt show these elements to highlight the good things about the happy ending we get for a while, but i think he intended people to be able to piece them together without difficulty.

>>82583867
It's not false if everyone survives and they defeat Lord English. Which they do. Everyone survives the fight against Caliborn. The ending is happy.

>>82580467
...this is probably bait but fuck it all bite. Consequences are when actions have repercussions. In real life, when someone dies they stay dead. That is a consequence. In real life, when someone fucks up, bad things happen as a result of there mistakes. Those are consequences. You need consequences in a story because otherwise nothing that happens matters. Homestuck fails as a story because nothing has consequences, which means nothing is at stake. Some of the most important characters are already dead and still involved with the plot, doubledeath is never presented as a real threat, the main character could retcon any mistakes the group made, everyone does stupid or terrible things and nothing bad happens as a result of their actions, and so what reason is there to care? For most of act 6 there was no tension in the story because there wasn't really any way things could go wrong. Game Over was just about the worst possible thing that could happen to the characters, and John just... undid it. And paid no price for doing so, meaning that no matter how bad collide could've went, John could've just undid it again. That's what no consequences means you fucking moron.

>>82583886
thats definitely a headcanon as opposed to something that definitely happened but wasnt shown like the stuff we're talking about

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>it's a shipping epilogue
>it''s a "where is vriska?" epilogue
>it's a "davekat confirmed/deconfirmed/polycuck" epilogue

>>82582377
D --> Y-yes this is good

>>82582792
When I first read about Hussie allegedly hating wordbuilding I was like 'What? Nigga straight up used the first 3 acts to establish shit about the game...'

>>82582961
Yeah we can pretty much all agree that despite the massive shitfest it was, HS is pretty unique. There wasn't anything like it at the time it was made which is how I got interested in it in the first place.

>>82577459
I want to fuck that statue.

>>82583950
>i think he intended people to be able to piece them together without difficulty.
That's what you think, though. I think he didn't care. I'm not even sure he considers some of these things bad - consider, I don't know, Tavros's status as a punching bag throughout the entire story, what are the odds it's representative of his philosophy and he thinks it's all funny? Not that low, I think.

Sorry for comparing this to 50 SoG again (I know it's an extreme and terrible example), but it's like saying E.L. James wrote abuse, so she knew it was abuse and wanted us to piece things together and deduce that her happy story was actually pretty fucking dark. I hope you can see my problem with the reasoning.

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>>82584016
whats everyone's ideal epilogue?

im hoping for some sort of doc scratch-esque scrapbook thing jumping around between important/fun/cool future moments and filling in relevant past moments we didnt see

>>82580548
i just wand a land of gondola and ebin

>>82584114
I have lost all hope already

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>>82584122
>>82580548

>>82584095
el james pretty clearly has no idea of the implications of her work, whereas when hussie actually interacted with the community he made it pretty clear he was extremely aware of even very subtle implications of homestuck that no one else caught. sucks he hasnt done that in a while, though.

>>82584114
it's one extremely long and cryptic SBaHJ comic

that or an Earthbound inspired walkaround ending game where you can speak to every character we've ever met for their thoughts on everything that happened