Civil War Spoiler Thread #8

>>82562410
Lead, Tenor, Baritone, Bass, who's who?

xth for no one was right, except Olsen's thighs

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>>82562410
First for GiANTS

Do you think Anthony Mackie and Daniel Bruhl licked each other's teeth gaps?

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>I believe this belongs to you, Captain America!

how can man man be so based

>warmachine got the least screentime and had no cool scenes
>warmachine the only casualty
>breaking up tony and pepper, the only couple in the mcu with any chemistry

0/10, demanded a refund

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>>82562490
The price you pay for being Tony's friend, m8.

>>82562490
>the only couple in the mcu with any chemistry
>Tony and Pepper
That's a funny way to spell Steve, Sam, and Bucky. At the same time

>>82562486

Computer, load up Ant-Man, please.

>>82562485
Are German's usually that lewd?

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>Computer, hack the Avengers HQ main computer please.
What did he mean by this?
Why did he do this?
Who was he talking to?

>>82562490
Warmachine had a lot of cool parts, he had equal screentime with the others until he was wounded.

>>82562474
Still waiting for a webm of Hawkeye's blade bow, here. I don't want to have to pirate the whole movie for it.

>>82562490
>breaking up tony and pepper
Blame that on Gwyneth.

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Daughterfu vs waifu fight.

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>>82562515
I'm not sure which is hotter - Steve getting spit roasted or Bucky getting spit roasted?

What could have beens

>Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely's original approach was Captain America and Falcon searching for Bucky while Zemo is orchestrating global turmoil. The "Civil War" element was added later on, partially in response to BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE.

>Early drafts written before ANT-MAN's release placed Scott Lang on Iron Man's team.

>In early drafts, T'Challa was just a diplomat advocating for superhero accountability on behalf of Wakanda, and Spider-Man was the outsider who provided a different viewpoint than Captain America's and his followers and Iron Man's and his followers. When negotiations with Sony nearly fell through, Black Panther got propped up, and then Spider-Man became available anyway.

>The Wasp was in earlier drafts, and there was also an extended sequence about Scott Lang's life in San Francisco that got scrapped and never filmed.

>The Russos cut a scene between Black Widow and Black Panther at the German base after the battle in Romania because they felt it was redundant. Overall, roughly 12 minutes have been deleted from their assembly cut.

>>82562582
Blame that on Tony blowing up his suits for her in IM3 and then building an army of robots that tries to destroy the world in AOU. I'd leave too.

>>82562490
>>82562582
>tfw Tony Stark and Pepper Potts are me and my ex right now

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>mfw they interrupted a quip with Rhodey falling over because of his injury, the music even stops
Shit got too real, and that was actually quite refreshing.

>>82562623
based

>>82562561

The only parts when he did anything was punching out Giant Man with Tony and the part where he says that he still supports the accords regardless of what happened. He wasnt even in the opening fight againts Crossbones.

>>82562593
I love you, Clint. No homo.

Okay, maybe a little.

I kinda hope they stop shitting on Ironman in future films. They've taken everything from him and made it to where everyone hates him, forever.

No pepper
Best friend cripple
No team
No freedom
A bad guy for wanting to kill his parents murderer.

I'd really like the last movie to be "how tony stark made his life somewhat bearable" staring an iron man suit that doesn't get treated like paper.

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>>82562639
>tfw when everyone gasped when he hit the ground

>>82562623
I figured it's because he was a piolet or something and could handle himself having to look at all the display shit and notifications on his HUD or whatever

>>82562629

Are you a member of Coldplay and/or created an evil AI hell bend on world domination?

>>82562623

>Tony makes Rhodey's voice a stereotypical fat sassy black woman.
>"DON'T GO IN THERE, MR. RHODES, THERE'RE TERRORISTS ALL UP IN THAT BITCH!"
>"...Thank you, RHONDA."
>"You welcome, baby."

I wanted more damage. Hawkeye going deaf, Scarlet Witch getting her leg broken or something, Vision's hand being blown off, Falcon needing hospitalization, etc.

>>82562474
I wonder what'll be Thor and Banner's reaction when they see this.

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>>82562593
>Vision looks sweaty as fuck
>Wanda does a random hip thrust
Where they banging?

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Post yfw Giant-Man

>>82562709
*pilot

>>82562714
I'm a handsome manlet with stunning facial hair, does that count?

>>82562474
Was this a shock to a lot of people? I can imagine they didn't know he could do it.

>>82562718
Ow the edge

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>>82562731
no bullshit, I gasped when that happened

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>>82562731

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>>82562547
>Are German's usually that lewd?

>>82562763

Its close enough. I hope it will work out between you guys.

>>82562623
Jesus, what the hell is his problem?

>>82562791

Casuals usually bone up on these things using Wikipedia so they can look like comic fans in front of other casuals these days.

>>82562718
I would rather have seen Black Widow, Scarlet Witch and/or Sharon Carter end up paralyzed from the waist down instead of Rhodey.

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>>82562689
Pietro, is that you?

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>>82562731
OOOHHHHHOHOHO

>>82562410

That moment when Spidey just nonchalantly grabs Buckys metal arm was so good after the whole movie of everyone struggling with it.

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>>82562717
hearty kek

>>82562819

If you've seen him in interviews and talk shows before, you'll know that he has a deadpan sense of humour

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>>82562731

>>82562717
>"You ever wonder why that little bitch Hammer painted your suit BLACK in the first place? That shit's hella racist, Mr. Rhodes."
>"RHONDA, I'm gonna need you to stop talking now, please."
>"B'SCUSE ME!?"

>>82562819
Nothing? Claiming racism when there clearly isn't any is one of his shticks.

>>82562693
No. I want Spoodey's villains to have their origins beginning with Stark funding all those MIT students, and I want him to turn to alcohol.

>>82562819
It was a joke

>>82562796
Nah, he's right. That all would've been great

>>82562819
>no fun allowed
Tom, C'mon

>>82562593
Have Visions mass altering powers been explicitly stated at any time?

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>>82562731

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>>82562731

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>>82562879
>>82562717

>Rhodey gets RHONDA installed into his suit for Infinity War.
>Voiced by Yvette Nicole Brown

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>>82562726
>yfw Vision intentionally hit Rhodey because of what he did to Wanda

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Two Quicksilver questions:

1. If he had survived, what kind of role do you think he would have had? Would his presence have affected Scarlet's stance on the matter?

2. Why the fuck was he not even referenced in this movie?

>>82562731
A god damn LEGO SET spoiled it for me, so I sort of saw it coming.

Damn Denmark to hell.

>>82562965
Is that what happened? I really couldn't tell if he missed because he was worried about her, or he 'missed' because Rhodey hurt his waifu.

>>82562884
>The students in that MIT class
>Herman Shultz
>Jackson Weele
>Johnathon Ohnn
>Peter Petruski
Thanks Mr. Stark!
>>82562955
Yes please

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>>82562639
>That part where Tony just straight up shoots Falcon without a joke

>>82562965
>>82563005

Hell no. WM getting grounded was because Sam decided to do a callback to Winter Soldier.
And also, Rhodey decided to stay in the line of fire

>>82562979
He'd be team Cap, and probably just give Spider-Man a lot of trouble in the airport battle before someone broke his leg or something.

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>>82562979
>''Haha, hey Wanda, remember the last member of your family and the only person you had for years that died a year ago? It was fun how fast he was haha, right?''

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>>82562731

>>82562624
>>82562490
I'm teamCap, but ironman's suffering really carried the film's emotional impact.

Civil war is probably the best ironman film since im1

>>82562606
>>Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely's original approach was Captain America and Falcon searching for Bucky while Zemo is orchestrating global turmoil. The "Civil War" element was added later on, partially in response to BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE.
This would've been a the Winter Soldier sequel we deserved.

You can change five things about the movie, /co/.

Only five, no cheating.

What do you change?

>>82563031
That's what he wants you to think.

Never trust robots, anon.

>>82563046
>Pic
That movie had such a fucked up ending

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>>82562003
Because of his dubious past with Hydra and their ability to make him do whatever they wanted.

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>>82562731
>tfw he starts screaming BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

>>82563077
What movie and what happened?

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>>82562539

>>82563077
Which one is it? Silent House or May Marlene?

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>>82562979
He would be Team Cap because Wanda and harass Clint.

Also, he would've mouthed off to Ross during that meeting.

Seriously fuck you, Whedon

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>>82562731

>>82563067
I loved CW as an Avengers movie, but I did feel robbed from a proper Cap sequel. Luckily it seems like they plan on continuing the Steve-Bucky-Sam plotline into IW, so I mind less.

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>>82563099

>>82563099
kek

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Just got back home from the theatre. That was fucking great.

Ant-Man was the shit.

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>>82563080
I just want to comfort him after he gets wrecked by Hydra thugs or Zemo.

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>>82562539
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>>82563124
Seriously, fuck him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYt-31JkKvY

Was I the only one who noticed that they set the board up the wrong way?
It really annoys me when they put a chess board in a scene to try to make characters seem more intelligent by association, but fail spectacularly.

>>82562697
That was your theater too?

>>82562979
Oh he was, when Hawkeye said that he owed a debt to Wanda.

>>82563124
But one of the reasons Clint even agreed to come back was because he feel indebted to Wanda for getting her brother killed. If he hadn't died, I'm not sure Hawkeye would be in the movie at all.

Although, they probably would have found some other excuse.

I don't know if it's the novelty of it but I want to say this is my favorite Marvel Studios movie. The Civil War element was obviously tacked on to the Zemo plot along with Spider-Man, but damn I had so much fun watching it. I couldn't stop smiling throughout the entire airport scene.

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>>82562731
>Grabs a truck
>Tries swinging it at Rhodey
>He turns it to scrap during the slow ass swing
>Spidey climbing on his face
>Kicking BP
Shit was so cash

>>82563070
Crossbones fight not in shakycam vision.

Some acknowledgement of The Incredible Hulk so Ross didn't feel like an OC.

The civilian death counts for New York and Sokovia being way higher.

Some mention of Quicksilver.

Rhodes dies.

>>82563133
I feel it'll come up in BP.

>>82563175
You already know that 5 man team Hydra was grooming made his asshole pop after dark.

>I remember everything

>>82562996
I spent $90 on that shitty airport playset with the shitty gimped Quinjet even though it's missing half the actual characters from that scene just for an ANTS sized Ant Man and GI-ANTS Man. I have the three of them lined up on my bookshelf right now next to each other by size, its great.

>>82562485
Zemo x Beautiful Son is gap OTP

>>82563210
He has a kindship to the Twins and wants to protect them.

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>>82563124
Me and my brother knew it wouldn't happen but we were hoping he would be secretly back in Civil War and healed using that machine from Age of Ultron, at least bedridden the entire movie but alive.

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>>82563099
>>82563179
These are fucking killing me

>>82562719
>Why the fuck did they paint Tony as a villain?
>They didn't.

They didn't do Tony many favors in this movie. The worst part for Tony was how he used Spider-Man. He threw an untrained kid in against the big boys and girls. Steve called him out on Wanda how she was just a kid and they were treating her like a criminal, or worse like a weapon rather than a person. And then he taps a high school kid for his civil war. I don't think Tony even realized what he was doing until Rhodey asked how old Peter was. Tony sees potentiality, uses. He has a mechanists view of the world, parts to get the job done, He tries to see the potential in people, which is good, but he sometimes has trouble seeing the reality of who they are while blinded by what he thinks they could or should be.

Seems Tony came to his senses when the kid nearly got killed. Then later when he saw how they were treating Wanda on the raft.

Of course the fact that Tony then had his breakdown didn't help.

I loved how they kept Zemo's kinda gay/hate obsession with Cap in the movie by making him notice the green in his eyes as a flaw.

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>>82563295
Stop making me dream

>>82563281

Dutiful.

>>82563190
Yep

>>82563220
>Some mention of Quicksilver.
There was definitely reference to it. But you're right, it wasn't technically mentioned.

the quips were out of control!
Will DC ever be able to compete in quip count, or should they go full grim-dark?

>>82563288
Hawkdad convinces the twins to become Avengers.
Pietro dies protecting him
Wanda gets grounded by Tony.
Hawkdad mad.

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>>82563302

RICH KID

ASSHOLE

PAINT ME AS A VILLAIN

>>82563323
B E A U T I F U L

S O N

>>82563315
He probably popped a boner when Steve grabbed him and slammed him against the wall.

>>82563341
They decided to take Suicide Squad BACK TO FORMULA because they were afraid it didn't have enough quips.

>>82562955
That's nice.

>>82563070
>Give Zemo a purple balaclava and fur-collar coat when he goes to Siberia
>More spider-sense
>More damage to each other caused in the airport scene
I'd like to include Tony accidentally killing Cap when trying to go for Bucky, but I don't know how to tie the remainder of the film up from there.

>>82563188
>Was I the only one who noticed that they set the board up the wrong way?
No, all the other kids diagnosed with severe autism also noticed it.

>WS using his hand as a shield to stop bullets
Too fucking cool. I thought his arm would make a shitty shield, but he made that thing work for him.

>>82563355

Damn you and your gay eardrums.

>>82563338
>There was definitely reference to it.

What was it?

>>82562718
>>82562907
Samefag

>>82562979
I'm willing to bet they would've found a way to put Pietro on Tony's side, and made a fight scene between the twins

>>82563302
They still didn't though. Tony keeping Wanda locked down was called for, and him getting Peter was fine, too. The kid held his own against Winter Soldier and Falcon (granted the latter wasn't activated). He wasn't painted as a villain, just an antagonist with agreeable motivations. They did shit on him pretty hard at the end. It'll be interesting to see how Team Cap reacts to WS killing Stark's parents

>>82563220
I agree with everything but Rhodes dying.

>>82563438

>>82563191
>>82563210

>>82562791
it's not about whether or not he could. it was always about whether or not they would.

>>82563446
Like they'll care after this. I honestly wonder how they'll get alone after this.

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>>82563404
I enjoyed all of Bucky's fights in this. Too bad he didn't get a hold of a knife this time around.

Those knife flips in TWS was GOAT as fuck.

>>82563315
I thought he's implying that Cap's personality isn't as perfect as everyone thought.

>>82562884
This is an amazing idea.

>>82562791
Probably for casuals, and comic fans weren't 100% sure it was going to happen.

>>82563438
When Hawkeye goes to get Wanda he mentions something about having a debt to pay to her. Implying his involvement in Quick's death.

I do like how subtle this movie was with passing conversation like how. Like when Peter basically entirely conveys his backstory and even hints at Uncle Ben without the movie having the blatantly brief us on Spiderman's origin story for the 15th time.

>>82563485
See, that would piss me off, because they did the same thing in AoU. Didn't even care about the wormhole or his mental state. Only ones that care are Rhodes, and Natasha, maybe.

>>82563442
>I'm willing to bet they would've found a way to put Pietro on Tony's side, and made a fight scene between the twins

I doubt it. They were stuck together like glue and the clash of egos wouldn't work between him and Pietro.

Not to mention Pietro was still salty about his family being blown up by Stark tech.

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>>82563489
>picking up a battering ram

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>>82563502
No it's a ultimate___ idea.

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I noticed several of Tony's lines were different takes than the ones in the trailers. Notably 'kick you in your perfect teeth' and 'So was I'. He was generally more angry sounding in the movie.

>>82562955
I always wanted YNB to play Agent Preston in a Deadpool movie.

>>82563593
the so was i line we a lot better in the movie.

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>>82562474
>Holy shit!

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>>82563575
>Aaron hoverhanding Wanda

>>82563593
>he never says "You just started a war!"

>>82563070

>War Machine and Vision operating in some capacity in the Lagos scene.
>General Ross venomously refers to Banner as "that monster" or something else that hints to their past.
>Some reference to Quicksilver, even if it's just Wanda having a picture of him in her room.
>In the scene where Tony asks Pete what makes he do what he does, Pete at some point says "with great power comes great responsibility" and the camera focuses on Tony's reaction to the phrase.
>Zemo gets put in the Raft at the end to set up Thunderbolts better.

>>82563446
I wasn't the one calling him a villain, I'm merely pointing out how his character wasn't shown as particularly stable and what he felt were his solutions, his attempts to solve problems, were instead making things worse.

Peter held his own through most of the fight, but you still don't chuck that kid in the deep end. Web slinging some criminals or stopping a speeding car hardly compares with going against Captain America, or the Winter Soldier who Tony has no reason to believe isn't still in full-on assassin mode. The guy nearly shot him in the face! He had no way to know Bucky wouldn't go full lethal weapon on the kid.

Someone might say Tony knew his friend's power levels so he felt Spider-Man was good go to. He'd crunched the numbers or whatever. But this whole situation was about how shit happens in battle that nobody wants. They can't stop everything. They can't foresee everything. And what happened in this fight? Rhodes nearly died. He may never be able to walk without robotic assistance again. That could have happened to the kid. That almost did. What would he have told Peter's unusually hot aunt then?

>>82563542
Natasha really seems to just fall in line with whoever she needs to, huh? She's kinda like the support for whoever needs it at the moment.

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>>82563665
>Zemo gets put in the Raft at the end to set up Thunderbolts better.

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>>82563572
>dat desk flip
>busting through the door like the Kool-Aid man
>when he grabbed T'Challa out of the air with one hand while riding the motorcycle

>>82563665
>>In the scene where Tony asks Pete what makes he do what he does, Pete at some point says "with great power comes great responsibility" and the camera focuses on Tony's reaction to the phrase.
The writers deliberately didn't do that because Peter at his age wouldn't use the words that way.

>>82563489
I liked that Bucky's fighting style was consistent with the comics, where he just uses anything in reach as a weapon. Even without powers, he's one of the most entertaining fighters.

>>82563653
>>Aaron hoverhanding Wanda
He probably didn't want his old hag, cradle robbing wife to get pissed at him.

>>82563632
Agreed. Instead of 'why won't you be my friend? *sniff*' he seemed bitter and betrayed.

>>82563665
Never write.

>>82563070
Crossbones survives

That's all I'd change.

>>82563665
>>In the scene where Tony asks Pete what makes he do what he does, Pete at some point says "with great power comes great responsibility" and the camera focuses on Tony's reaction to the phrase.
No thank you

>>82563653
>Aaron hoverhanding Wanda
Seems like his forearm is resting on her shoulder so his hand is just in front of her.

>>82563188
One thing I really, liked about this was the different philosophies Tony and Steve had towards signing. Steve refuses to sign because he disagrees with it and is too honest to just give lip service to it. If Steve is going to go along with the accords then he's going to abide by them.

For Tony it's a pragmatic thing, this will happen so it's best to "play along" even if you intend on cheating later (having the document amended or just straight up cheating it like when he ducks out to join up with Cap and Bucky at the end).

>>82563749
>>82563773

MY OPINION, I DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK WHAT REDDIT OR TUMBLR RANKS THESE FILMS, IN TERMS OF KINO THIS IS MY LIST SO FUCK YOU!!!

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>>82563653
>he never says "You just started a war!"
Neither 'I was wrong about you, the whole world was wrong about you', but I like to imagine that was what he was thinking in pic related.

>>82563686
Natasha was doing the best she could to keep the Avengers together and mediating between them, because it was the first time in her life she felt she was working for good.

At the airport scene she realized that the Avengers had cracked beyond repair and cut her losses.

I felt sorry for her. She was willing to go legit and instead is now on the run again.

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>>82563747
JFC

>>82563771
I'm sure he's fine. The whole thing was pre-planned and it was just another of Zemo's stooges wearing a Crossbones facemask like the guy who wore the Bucky mask to the bombing.

>>82563771
>Crossbones survives
>That's all I'd change
Changing that would mean Wanda would not be blamed for the explosion.

>>82563681
Yeah, Tony wasn't stable, but his solutions were viable, especially when Cap decides to harbor Bucky. Capture Bucky? Yes. Keep Wanda lockdown because she isn't a U.S. citizen and she, in the eye of the public, is responsible for them dead African people? Yes.
And it's not like he was the sole person making things worse. Cap screws things up as well.

I think when Tony saw WS with Cap, he could have deduced WS wasn't in killmode, And yeah Peter could have died, that's why Tony told him to "keep his distance, web him up". Also the reason why Tony sidelined him when Peter took a giant hand to the body.

>>82563686
Yeah, it's a bit jarring. I get the feeling she really doesn't like Stark at all. Hell she recommended Iron Man but not Tony for the Avengers

>>82563828
It made Tony come off a bit hypocritical that he was willing to chase down and arrest the rogue Avengers for doing the same thing he would have done if he thought it was convenient or necessary. He gladly went against it at the end when he thought he was going to help Cap and Bucky stop the assassins.

>>82563686

It's almost like she's a spy or something who's used to siding with whoever on a whim.

>they're considering giving Black Widow a movie

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>>82563843
>Slowly and casually tasing the shit out of Black Panther
>Cap and Buck get away
>His face when

>>82563830
Consider sucide my man

>>82563908
>It made Tony come off a bit hypocritical that he was willing to chase down and arrest the rogue Avengers for doing the same thing he would have done if he thought it was convenient or necessary.
Tony outright said the Accords was suppose to be lip service and that he never intended to obey it. Steve refuse to sign because Steve only sign what he was willing to obey.
But then Ross started going megalomaniac and now Tony can't break the Accords as easily as he planned to.

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>>82563847
Proof that anyone can get a top tier husbando, even if you're old and busted.

>>82563890
She would be blamed for throwing the blast into a hospital I surmise. The whole thing could still happen I think

>>82563446
>It'll be interesting to see how Team Cap reacts to WS killing Stark's parents

They won't. I mean it's meaningful to Tony because it's HIS parents but for everyone else it's just another pair of bodies that he racked up while he was brainwashed by hydra.

>>82563908
>He gladly went against it at the end
He straight up told Steve that he could have the accords amended later on, and talks shit to Ross, so the accords to Tony were probably just something that could be used to assuage the current situation til later

>>82563985
Doesn't that basically illustrate that Tony was wrong and that the Accords were bullshit?

>>82563847
>>82563747
>>82563992
>old enough to be his mom

>>82564041
Yes.

>>82564000
>She would be blamed for throwing the blast into a hospital I surmise. The whole thing could still happen I think
The bomber still at large would mean he would be to blame.

>>82563891
Tony is the MCU king of bad ideas. Sometimes it's played for laughs, like buying strawberries with your expensive watch as a peace offering to someone who is allergic to strawberries.

This time it was sending a high school kid to war.

The whole bit about Wanda not being a US citizen and therefore her mistakes must count against her is pretty bullshit when you consider Tony created Ultron which nearly ended in an extinction level event, but hey he's a US citizen so it's perfectly fine. He'll just give some grad students unlimited funding for their projects. I'm sure none of them will end up creating something that can be used as a weapon or get involved in a lab accident that turns them into a super villain.

Vision was right, this all started going down when Tony revealed he was Iron Man. He's created a villain or a threat in every movie he's been in.

>>82564041
Yes.

The point of this movie is Tony is wrong and he is only driven by his ego to cover his own ass.

>>82564059
So how is #TeamStark a thing, again? Especially when two members left him in the end, one was a robot programmed to agree with him anyway, one is a kid who had no idea what the issue was and just wanted to impress Stark, and the other was his bestie military friend who just does what the government tells him anyway Accords or no.

>>82564053
>they have two kids
>he's impregnated her twice

>>82564014
Why are people getting in Buckys ass for what he did when he was mind controlled for over a decade? Did Hawkeye serve time because of all those SHIELD agents he killed in Avengers?

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>>82564053

>>82564130
>So how is #TeamStark a thing, again? Especially when two members left him in the end, one was a robot programmed to agree with him anyway, one is a kid who had no idea what the issue was and just wanted to impress Stark, and the other was his bestie military friend who just does what the government tells him anyway Accords or no.
It is still a thing because it still has the backing of the US government. And that is still meaningful and a great force.
This also means Ross is free to build his Thunderbolts team now.

>>82564095
>he is only driven by his ego to cover his own ass.

You mean guilt. One could say that is 'egotistical' too, but all he is doing in CW is trying to make up for his fuckups.

>>82564141
The same reason why Natasha's red ledger is washed clean and Tony isn't in jail for building Ultron.

Oh wait

>>82564093
Tony was protecting Wanda from the US Government.

Being grounded and locked in your room is the superior alternative to being locked up in a cell. Tony believed that his actions were the lesser of two evils.

So if Tony didn't do anything, if he didn't lock Wanda in her room. Then what? The government would just go ahead and come for her instead. Either she complies and is placed in a containment facility because the government's composed of a bunch of paranoid assholes, or she refuses and is labeled a criminal. Tony saw no better alternatives.

>>82564130
That's why Tony is so sad in the end. Steve gave him the Avengers but he barely has any Avengers anymore. He has become Tony Stank, now and forever.

>>82564141
Did Hulk serve time for Hulking everywhere?
Did Black Widow serve time for her KGB days?
Did Wanda serve time for being Hydra?
Did Tony serve time for fucking the world with Ultron?

But nah, because it was Stark's parents specifically, Bucky's the only one that deserves to be murdered. Because sad is more justification for murder than legitimate mind control.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1462129416731.webm

>When the two sides line up
>When they start to walk to each other
>They then run at full speed
>They fight

>>82564130
Because people who watched it ended up sympathizing with stark. He kind of has the moral highground, since he's trying to do what the public wants and Cap forgot to mention his parents' assassination.

>>82564130
Vision isn't programmed to agree with Tony.

>>82564187
I think he'll be okay with Vision and Spidey.

>>82564186
>Tony believed that his actions were the lesser of two evils.
No they weren't, because for man as intelligent as he is he should have been able to see more than two solutions that were actually the same solution. Wanda is locked up, by him or the gov it didn't matter. But that wasn't the only choice.

Steve was ready to plant himself by the river of truth and tell them, "No, you move." Tony was busy being drunk and pissing in that river.

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>>82562849
>mfw that happened

Just needed more casual displays of dodging shit with spidy sense and it'd of been perfect.

>>82564167
Yeah nothing can possibly go wrong there.

>>82564187
I straight up laughed at that. "The Avengers are yours." You know, the two that are left. I freed the rest that you allowed to be imprisoned for trying to save the world. Peace out, we'll still be around to save the world if you and your team of two can't do it yourselves.

>>82564237
Tony had more pressing matters to deal with than babysitting Wanda. And if she was left to her own devices, the government would have probably tried to contain her, which would inevitably result in her being labeled a criminal. I would like to note that the entirety of the film takes place in the course of approximately 48 hours.

>>82564041
Yes, that's kind of the point.

>Rogers was morally compromised by Bucky's presence. His blind spot was loneliness. His misguided outlet was protecting Bucky at all costs, sacrificing friends in the process.

>Stark was morally compromised by having created Ultron. His blind spot was guilty. His misguided outlet was supporting the Accords even though he didn't believe in them.

>>82564235
>Vision isn't programmed to agree with Tony
No but he's part Jarvis and seems compelled to do everything Tony tells him. Even refers to him as Mr. Stark.

>>82564235
Part of Vision's basis is JARVIS which was an AI programmed to serve Tony. Just like Ultron retained a lot of Tony's traits and thinking patterns. He's not straight up confined to it, but it is the encoding of his personality to think like Stark.

>>82564225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyiS1nXlqJE

>>82564281
>sacrificing friends in the process.

He didn't really sacrifice any friends though. Out of everyone, Steve was the closest with Sam and Nat, who were for the most part right by his side.

>>82563070
Quick slav comes back alive in stinger because fuck you.
More casual spidy-sense
Some villeins are shown off in the background of the prison (leader, abomination, D-listers< they own)

After that no real complaints.

>>82564303
Handsome Vibranium Jarvis is right, by definition.

He is a benevolent being wielding the Mind Gem.

He did the equations, for Christ's sake.

>>82564235
>Vision isn't programmed to agree with Tony.
Actually Vision made it very clear that he is intentionally obeying Tony's every word, because he wanted to look non-threatening. He is just as dangerous as Wanda and has a mysterious stone that he doesn't have full control over, and he was designed by a killer robot. By all accounts he should be locked up too. But by being a good little root slave, Vision was able to dodge the accuations.

And Vision even asked Wanda to follow his example, not knowing that most humans couldn't do that sort of thing to themselves.

>that feel when Avengers vs X-Men never

>>82564334
You mean the equations that basically said it's all Tony's fault?

>>82564334
But he didn't input the human factor into the formula.

>>82564378
Good. The X-Men continuity is a mess right now.

>>82563220
Wanda has a shrine to Pietro in her room

>>82564292
Vision's actions were dictated by logic, except when it came to Wanda in which case they were dictated by emotion. After running calculations, he came to the conclusion that signing the Accords was the logical thing to do.

And you don't NEED to be a super fighting robot with a supercomputer brain to understand that, yes, enforced accountability on the actions of super-people is the logical thing to do.

>>82564207
>Did Wanda serve time for being Hydra?
Fucking christ, Imagine being her
>Ally yourself with Hydra alongside with your brother in hopes of avenging your family against Tony Stark and those who waged war in her country
>Get crazy powers, ally yourself with a robot
>Unleash the fucking Hulk on Africa
>Realise that the robot with lips you allyed yourself with was planning to kill all humans, not just Tony Stark
>switch sides, find out the robot is going to use your city to destroy the planet
>know your home is doomed no matter what you and the Avengers do
>brother dies
>throw a bong into a hospital
How hasnt she killed herself yet? You think they ever told her that Ultrons existance was partially her fault?

>>82564334
>Handsome Vibranium Jarvis is right, by definition.
>He is a benevolent being wielding the Mind Gem.
>He did the equations, for Christ's sake.
Civil War writers argue that Vision might not be "worthy" anymore. That him no longer being a newborn meant that he could be corrupted by his own experiences and decision, and that he just might need to learn to earn his worthiness from scratch.

>>82564280
The government was after them in AOU and Tony was perfectly fine running when HE was the one responsible for creating the murderbot. Suddenly one tiny corner of a building being blown up was one tragedy too much. He just jumped at the opportunity because for once he had no part in the event so technically his hands were totally clean in Lagos.

The government is fully capable of doing screwy and unethical shit, all the time. Would Tony be fine rounding up Commies for McCarthy? Or flying over Mexico blasting ACDC from his armor until they agree to build President Trump's wall? Would he have been fine confining Rosa Parks to her house because better he's making her stay there than the government rounding her up?

And it's not like we need another thread where people point out all the corrupt or evil government officials we've seen in the MCU so far.

>>82564356
That doesn't mean he's programmed to, anon. Intentionally doesn't mean programmed.

>>82564387
It's both of their faults really

Just finished watching it. Loved it.

I felt really bad for Tony up until he went into pure revenge mode in the finale. I wanted to slap Hawkeye and Falcon for how they talked to him on the Raft.

>>82564409
>signing the Accords was the logical thing to do
Not with Ross leading the show. He's a fucking villain.

>>82564418
Tony no longer believes that he is capable of making good judgment calls. That's why he was so quick to sign the Accords. He believes that the government clearly knows better than he does, because every time he decides something on his own, people tend to die.

>>82564445
>I wanted to slap Hawkeye and Falcon for how they talked to him on the Raft.

Why? Falcon literally did nothing wrong.

>>82564418
The movie spells it out - He wants to cooperate so that the government doesn't just declare open season on all of them.

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>MUH DEAD SON
>HE DINDU NUTHIN
>I'M GOING TO SEND THE SUPER HERO INTO AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
I realize there has to be conflict in a movie but these arguments are quite frankly retarded.

Sorry about your son but if the team of super humans didn't stop the floating city from crashing into the Earth's surface then literally everyone on the planet would have died.

>>82564417
>Babies are worthy of the title of Thor
kek

>>82564378
I had a hunch that general audience were getting tired of superheroes beating each other, they just them to be heroes.

>>82564445
>I felt really bad for Tony up until he went into pure revenge mode in the finale.
Basically how I felt. I totally sympathized with his ideals until he went batshit on Bucky. Like, I totally understand why he did it, but still.

>>82564457
Fair point. If I were Tony, at the very least, I'd have demanded that literally anyone other than Ross be in charge of this shit before I signed anything.

>>82564457
Ross isn't leading the show.

>>82564445
He deserved it

>War Machine tearing that truck to shreds
>"I thought it was a water truck!"
>Tic-Tac
>"Oh this isn't good. Uuhh you're gonna have to take this into the shop"
>Spider-Man crawling on Giant-Mans face
>Widow getting rekted by Ant-Man


Lang really stood out for the 20 minutes he got of screen time

>>82564445
>risk your life multiple times to save the world
>a few people die
>you're to blame! listen to us, the villain of the hulk movie
>retire because fuck this bullshit
>world under threat again, please help us hawkdad
>sure fine i'll help you stop these crazy russian assassins
>get stopped by stark and his crew
>thrown into crazy fucking underwater prison
>teach you to try to save the world!
>stark, creator of ultron, walks free

>breakout at the raft
>new avengers get set up
>Cap, Falcon, maybe Bucky, and all 4 netflix heroes

it will never happen but
I can dream

>>82564508
I felt for him. If I were in his shoes, I don't think I'd be able to hold back from murdering Bucky immediately.

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>>82563070
More prisoners on The Raft
Ant-Man actually using ants.
Ross having beef with the Avengers for letting Hulk roam free.
Sam catching up to Rhodey before Tony and actually trying to help Rhodes, before Tony blasts him.
Just like >>82563220 , higher death count and disaster on New York and Sokovia

>>82564445
Hawkeye was being a bit too much of a cunt. He was talking to Tony like he always hated his guts, and Stark was right when he mentioned Clint knew the consequences and could just have stayed home.

Falcon was justified though. He tried to catch Rhodey, genuinely told Tony he was sorry, and got blasted for it.

>>82564464
It felt like they were being excessively hostile, treating Tony like he was their enemy for selfish reasons instead of trying to do the right thing.

>>82564482
If she had pulled this shit on steve you would of had a point but she pulled on the guy who made the danm murderbot

>>82564547
I would probably break down crying, but I'm not really a ptsd violent trigger happy nutcase like Stark.

>>82564547
I think he was trying to do just that. Cap getting in his way was all that kept Bucky alive.

So I looked around for the references from the keywords, because, you know, the russos.

one, nine, seventeen - 1917 the year of Bucky's bearth
freight car - the thing he fell out of
homecoming - spidey's title
daybreak - this song from Community: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09InPHAKJko

Anything else that is escaping me?

>>82564508
I'm the opposite, i get why he was pro reg but didn't agree and felt allot of this was more "tony knows best"

But he was justified in trying to kill bucky.

>>82564513
>Ross isn't leading the show.
He is the only one who is. The UN doesn't lead anything, when you say "let the UN decide", it generally means it was already decided by a major power and the UN rubberstamps. In this case, Ross is the major power.

>>82564558

>More prisoners on the Raft
>Your face when one of them has Justin Hammer in it

>>82564586
It's all that kept Tony from finding his villain origin story, too. Steve spared Bucky and Tony with his interference.

no one said anything about tony bringing a literal baby to the fight

>>82564567
>you would of had a point
It's time to go to bed, Anon.

>>82564563
You wouldn't be mad at the guy that put you in jail while your best friend is out trying to stop 5 super soldiers from wrecking the world?

>>82564400
Not really.

It's First Class > Days of Future Past > Apocalypse > Deadpool.

>>82564582
When you see someone crush your dad's face and strangle the life out of your mom, it tends to bring up certain emotions in you. Emotions that may be out of your ability to keep under control.

I swear to God if I saw anything like that happen to my parents, there's a good chance I'd be incarcerated and sentenced to at least two-to-ten years in jail by the end of the day.

>>82564612
Yeah, that struck me as odd when everyone was like "You've got moxy, sport." and not "I don't want to shoot/punch a 15 year old."

>>82564608
Why don't they make one-shots any more? I miss them.

>>82564612
That baby was super OP and only supposed to 'web them in'. Spiderlinger chose to rush into battle himself.

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>People complaining that Clint was too much of a jerk.

He's just being written as Clint for the first time in the MCU -- a hotheaded, sarcastic, cocky jerk.

>>82564655
They're money sinks. They turn in zero profit.

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>>82564608
How hasnt he escaped from Seagate yet?

>>82564582
You'd cry right in front of your parents' murderer?

>>82564586
>>82564609
I don't want to start any versus arguments (though I may just have), but yeah Iron Man v Cap is was too much of an obvious answer.

Also, what did FRIDAY do to give Tony that edge at the end?

>>82564654
>>82564664

I think anon was making a joke about Vision being days(?) old, guys

>>82564459
>Tony no longer believes that he is capable of making good judgment calls.
If that were true it would be a good idea for him to stop judging other people.

Steve was right. Tony wants someone else to blame so he stops blaming himself. Stopping the Chitauri invasion, stopping Ultron, stopping Hydra's death machines over Washington - if they'd HAD the Accords they'd still have gone in, assuming Hydra hadn't infiltrated the UN panel and couldn't be trusted. (so again we apparently need it pointed out that the previous MCU movies had an evil senator (Garry Shandling), an evil Secretary of Defense/World Security Council Member in Alexander Pierce, and the vice president of the US was working with Killian. Politics is NOT the answer.) There still would have been fights, there still would have been collateral damage, but that's okay because Tony would sleep better since he can just blame 117 signatory countries instead of himself.

That's bullshit.

>>82564654
They didn't know how old or who Peter was. Only TeamIM had some idea.

>>82564672
He wasn't just sarcastic. He was full of spite. As if Tony was a literal Judas like in the comic.

>>82564701
true but the high pitched voice and his size were some indication. just sayin

>>82564701
They heard him speak. They knew how old he was.

>>82564713
He did lock up his daughterfu.

>>82564480
No, that's what Tony claimed. Ross threatened. What would they do, try to shut them down? Did that work in Age of Ultron? Was Ross ever able to stop the Hulk until Banner thought he'd cured himself?

And now Steve and the others are in a different country. Yeah, that really worked out well for the US and Tony.

>>82564692
>Also, what did FRIDAY do to give Tony that edge at the end?
Analyzed Steves fighting pattern and predicted his next hit or something

>>82564535
Giving anyone free reign to do whatever they want is never a good idea.

Cops stop crime but we still don't let them make whatever judgement call they deem necessary.

Checks and balances are what separate protectors from fascist overlords.

>82564692
>I think anon was making a joke about Vision being days(?) old, guys

no they were right I meant Spidey

>>82562819

he likes to fuck with people. So when you see racism everywhere, he just adds it in to be funny even though he knows people will always take it seriously. Its just deadpan

>>82564716
Tom Holland is the same height as RDJ.

I think it's funny how people were comparing the end of this movie to Empire Strikes Back, where it ends on kind of a downer note and Bucky is frozen in carbonite...

...when Spiderman directly references Empire during the movie.

OH, DISNEY.

>>82564695
So do you actually believe that this group of the most powerful individuals on the planet should be completely free to do what they want with unlimited freedom? Because as a human being living in human society, I can only come to the conclusion that that is complete bullshit.

Superheroes are cool on paper, but they should NOT have the right to do whatever the fuck they want with zero accountability.

>>82564692
> what did FRIDAY do to give Tony that edge at the end?

She takes full control of the suit, since Tony can't keep up with hand to hand combat with Cap.

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>I'm your conscience
>we don't talk much

>>82564606
They said there was a coumcil of UN members running things.

And the Accords don't compel any action. They only can prevent it.

>>82564713

Tony threw him in jail -- he was just dropping some truth bombs. Nothing he said was wrong: Tony is an arrogant futuristl who thinks he knows what's best for everyone and constantly tries to push it on them. He did know that his friends would be sent somewhere and labelled criminals. He just wanted Tony to realise that he wasn't the altruistic good guy here.

>>82563949
While I'm not that interested in just a Black Widow movie, I'd totally be down for a Black Widow and Hawkeye movie.

>>82564741
>we still don't let them make whatever judgement call they deem necessary

Chicago would have a word with you.

RDJ is taller in universe than he is IRL, not to mention Iron Man suits must add inches

>Cap banging his ex's grand niece or something

fucking pimp

>>82564751
they hide it pretty well.

>>82564756
>She takes full control of the suit, since Tony can't keep up with hand to hand combat with Cap.
And Tony would only do this when he was truly desperate, because it must be scary to let and AI control the suit while you are inside it. This would likely be a plotpoint in future films.

>>82564754
You would trust a COMMITTEE with that kind of power? As someone in the real world I come to the conclusion that that is complete bullshit.

If superheroes existed then making them subordinate to political powers that are notoriously corruptible is the worst thing you could do.

>>82564639
I would fucking tell him about the super soldiers.

>>82564818
Can it get any better than that?

Aunt May keeps getting hotter and hotter with each reboot

>>82564782
I'd be more interested in JUST a Hawkeye movie.

>>82564847
Oh, I see. You're an anarchist, aren't you?

>>82564857
Like they tried to at the airport?

>tells SHIELD not to fuck around with the Tesseract
>they do and let it fall into the hands of Loki who then uses it to open a portal to Thanos's realm
>tells Iron Man and Cap America to let him take Loki back to Asgard
>they refuse, resulting in alien invasion
>tells Odin not to freak the fuck out and sacrifice tons of lives pointlessly to defeat the Dark Elves
>Odin ignores him so he has to solve everything basically by himself
>tells Tony and Bruce not to fuck around with Loki's scepter before he takes it back to Asgard
>they do and create Ultron
>tells Steve and Tony not to fuck everything up while he goes away and saves the universe for the third time
>they do and fuck everything up

Why won't everyone just listen to based Thor?

Is Sokovia supposed to be a city or a country?

Is it a weird Eastern European city-state like they used to have back in Ancient Greece?

>>82564847
And individuals are infallible and incorruptible? I'm not gonna let some random guy drive a tank he happened to find around with no restriction, just because he's shooting bad guys with it.

>>82564881
Tony, go to bed. You're drunk.

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>Thunderbolts movies.

>Ross orders Zemo to put together a new team of Avengers, called the Thunderbolts.
>Brings in a bunch of powered individuals.
>Prisoners the Beetle, Fixer, Moonstone and Screaming Mimi become Mach 1, Techno, Meteorite and Songbird.
>Zemo is given the identity Citizen V. He's given the Super Soldier serum.
>They start doing missions, under threat of death by Ross.
>All but Zemo began to like being heroes, being looked up too. Feeling "Good".
>Zemo eventually hatches a scheme to free themselves.
>Ross slowly starts losing his shit.
>He takes radiation and becomes Red Hulk.
>Zemo then frees them and plans to escape. But the Thunderbolts refuse to follow him, seeing the danger that Red Hulk will bring.
>Thunderbolts sans Zemo fight Red Hulk, bringing him down.
>They become celebrated as new heroes.
>Zemo dons his costume.
>A new supervisor for the team is introduced. Norman Osborn.

>>82564868

>next reboot she's in her 30s and works as a stripper to support Peter.

>>82564781
Tony didn't order anyone to be thrown in jail. When he found out he opposed it, but backed down like a bitch because Ross threatened him. Clint was trash-talking him as if Tony was pleased and smug over them being locked up, when it was the direct opposite.

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>>82564754
>So do you actually believe that this group of the most powerful individuals on the planet should be completely free to do what they want with unlimited freedom? Because as a human being living in human society, I can only come to the conclusion that that is complete bullshit.

Is everyone ignoring the fact that the MCU government and police force is incompetent as shit.

They let SHIELD run around unopposed for years - the Chutari incident is on them for the fucking with the tessaract.

Also, they haven't done shit about the HYDRA sleeper cells in their own government. The Avengers were the one to clean that up without the governments assistance in AoU.

>Superheroes are cool on paper, but they should NOT have the right to do whatever the fuck they want with zero accountability.

Fuck that. If someone saved my life even if they broke the law, I would be grateful. Shit like this is why the Good Samaritan Law is in place today.

>>82564847
Who else would you trust with it? An individual? A single nation?

>>82562582

She'll probably be back in Infinity War. This movie was packed as it is with notable actors, and Gwenyth Paltrow doesn't come cheap.

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>>82564893
huh.

>>82564783
And you see exactly why it's an awful idea.

I agree that power must be checked and thats always a valid (and sometimes interesting) thing to do in super powered stories, but in the scene where Ross hands them the accords I couldn't help but think what would have happened in the situations of the footage he showed if the Avengers WEREN'T there

>>82564935

As Clint said, he knew they'd put them somewhere, even if it wasn't the Raft. Tony knew they'd wind up locked up in some capacity and he brought them in anyway.

>>82564608
Duuuuuuuuuude
We can get Zemo, Hammer, Abomination, Killgrave, Zola. Along with the villains from Black Panther, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Homecoming and Cage's shows, we can get some cool ass people up there.
Give Ross the gamma rays and the Thunderbolts are real.

>>82564915

Zemo calls it a "failed state long before you blew it up", so it's a country. Probably a really tiny Balkan one with only one major city, like Kosovo.

>>82563380
Was there any reference to spider-sense? I don't remember any and to be honest usually forget it's there with movie spidey

>>82564826
I'd be desperate too if an anthropomorphic American flag was beating me into the wall with the people's Frisbee.

>>82564892
Only problem I had with the movie. Fucking don't stop trying Cap, fucking tell them,"look y'all there's Winter Soldiersx5 and we gotta stop them."

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>Chris Evans Captain America, Hugh Jackman Wolverine, and Ryan Reynolds Deadpool will never go on a mission together

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>>82562731

>>82564733
The Avengers going to war with every government on the planet is something that would be horrible for everyone.

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>>82564923
I sure am glad you don't work for Marvel

>>82564978
Bucky chucks a thing at Peter, who senses it and throws it back at him.
>OH GOD
>Hey, buddy, I think you dropped this!

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>>82564608
Lol Justin is happy in prison with his own prison bitch.

>>82564973

If it's a country, why did Friday say "Sokovia is going for a ride" in Age of Ultron?

Makes it sound more like a city.

>>82564990
fuck

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>>82564990

>live action The Good, The Bad and the Ugly

>>82564937
If you're suggesting individuals then maybe the individuals with the powers? I mean that's what actually happens anyway, right down to Tony ignoring Ross to do what he wants. In other words he does exactly what Steve warned. What happens when we want to go somewhere and they won't let us? Tony had evidence, Ross was ignoring it. Tony took matters into his own hands.

The very movie undermines the premise of the Accords which Tony was meant to champion.

>>82564978
Right before Ant-Man sucker punches him
>"Hey guys, there's something wron-
And again when Bucky threw that thing at him

>>82564893
>>82564947
that's why he's wielding the hammer.

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>>82565017
Then tell me how you'd do the movie you fucking sperg?

>>82565001
I don't think they would go to war with every nation. I also don't think many nations would look at the Hulk and say, "Okay chums, let's charge 'em!"

Ross was blowing hot air out his ass as usual. Even Tony undermined him constantly, ignored him, and eventually just put him on hold.

>>82565032

I mean, that chunk wasn't even the whole city they were in. So unless it's like the Vatican, since Zemo explicitly calls it a state, that couldn't have been all of Sokovia.

>>82565042
>then maybe the individuals with the powers?
That's a terrible idea, and I hope you can see why.
Self-policing never works.

>>82564936
They nearly sparked international incidents and wars multiple times since their conception. Tony Stark created Ultron. Wanda performed multiple acts of terrorism and fucked with those very heroes' heads. Banner can't always control himself when transformed becomes an unstoppable monster when sufficiently enraged.

The Avengers are not perfect gods. If they fuck up (as they have multiple times), the ones to pay the price won't be them, but the civilians.

>>82563070

>better look at Spider-Mans outfit pre Stark upgrade

>Tony looking for super powered people. Perfect set up for a Daredevil reference

>More Crossbones. Grillo brought that crazy fucker off the pages and to the screen perfectly. Punisher vs Crossbones would have been awesome to see

>reference to Zemos purple mask

>Red Wing look more bird and less drone

>>82562791
Anyone who watched Ant-Man saw there were grow disks, and Scott grew out of the Quantum Realm, though only to regular size. I would be disappointed in people if they DIDN'T see it coming, comics notwithstanding.

>>82564918
Isn't that current US policy? If we think there's a threat we send in the drones. Blow up an apartment or a funeral. You don't think they'd do this with the Avengers if they had the power to order them around?

>>82564990
>we will never have a scene of Huge Actman and Evans bro-ing it up in WWII
>we will never have Cap learn of the Weapon project as he's sent into Canada with Wade to capture a rogue Wolverine
>we will never have Wade geek the fuck out over meeting his hero and Steve recognizing Logan who can't remember him

It hurts, anon, but we MIGHT have some slim hope of Cap and the Punisher meeting up sometime.

>>82562693
>>82562884

We need Tony to keep fucking up everything and getting more and more depressed so he can turn to being a asshole drunk again and do Superior Iron Man

>>82564847
We trust India and Pakistand with nukes. Well no not really but we've done a good job so far of talking them down from nuking each other.

A commite who would be able to dictate a couple of circus freaks isn't too scary by comparison.

>Your Highness
This got me hard for some reason

>>82565090
The movies are completely cut off from the TV shows.

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>>82563572
>that fucking "THUD" when he hit a guy with it

>>82565090
>Tony looking for super powered people.
>Tony and Natasha enter a bar where Frank Castle is hunched over a plate of bacon and eggs.
>"Hi, I'm Tony Stark."
>"And I'm Natasha Romanov."
>"Go fuck yourselves, shitbags."

>>82565127
>implying this is DC

>>82562410
>Evans happy beard is spreading