Civil War Thread (Spoilers) Thread #3

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what happened to Sharon? All the promo material had her suited up with gear standing with team Cap. Also that kiss came out of nowhere

>>82537241

Emily VanCamp is a total qt

>>82537241
She was hamfisted to begin with in this movie.

Lost her relevance after getting blown the fuck out by Bucky then supplying the weapons.

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500 BILLION DOLLARS SPENT ON BACKFLIPS

>>82537241
she got bumped just like she did in WS in favor of Black Widow

>>82537241
Probably just a placeholder for Scarlet Witch.

Or she had a larger role that was scaled down during production.

BRUCE BANNER WHERE

>>82536015
So does a friendly dick sucking fall under this? You know, just to boost the spirits

>>82537196
Tony was right

>>82537241
She probably had a bigger role when the movie wasn't Civil War, and they tried to salvage it, but they put Scarlet Witch instead because she has actual powers.

>>82537280
Worst part of these fucking movies desu is how Widow keeps stealing her screen time

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>>82537296
Off getting cucked and BLACKED now that T'Challa's on the scene.

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Bucky and Sam were everything I was hoping they would be.

>>82537241
It would have been weird if she was in the airport fight, she would have been useless or straight up died. I think they were just trying to hype her up so that people would know who she was when she showed up.

>>82537241
She was signed on before the film became Civil War so I imagine she used to have a bigger role. As the least well developed of the cast they probably figured she was the most expendable character and cut out a lot of her other development, in a self-reinforcing feedback loop. Too bad that of all the stuff she could've done they kept the one scene that needed her to have been properly built up the most.

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So when's Tony dying? He's not doing any more solo movies as far as I'm aware so we'll never get to see the real Mandarin, which is disappointing.

I miss Sam Rockwell

>>82537326
I didn't know Bruce Banner was secretly having a torrid love affair with Bucky Barnes. Though the initials should've really given it away.

>>82537241
>what happened to Sharon? All the promo material had her suited up with gear standing with team Cap. Also that kiss came out of nowhere

They do that for notable characters regardless. Remember they had posters for her in Winter Soldier.

>>82537196
his nose looks fuckin weird

>Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely's original approach was Captain America and Falcon searching for Bucky while Zemo is orchestrating global turmoil. The "Civil War" element was added later on, partially in response to BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE.

>In early drafts, T'Challa was just a diplomat advocating for superhero accountability on behalf of Wakanda, and Spider-Man was the outsider who provided a different viewpoint than Captain America's and his followers and Iron Man's and his followers. When negotiations with Sony nearly fell through, Black Panther got propped up, and then Spider-Man became available anyway.

>The Wasp was in earlier drafts, and there was also an extended sequence about Scott Lang's life in San Francisco that got scrapped and never filmed.

>The Russos cut a scene between Black Widow and Black Panther at the German base after the battle in Romania because they felt it was redundant. Overall, roughly 12 minutes have been deleted from their assembly cut.

>"You just started a war" and "I was wrong about you, the whole world was wrong about you" got cut, probably part of an extended confrontation at the Siberian Hydra base.

Also, Markus and McFeely apparently presented their first story draft before seeing ANT-MAN and put Ant-Man on Stark's side before it was pointed out to them the grudge between Hank Pym and the Stark family.

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>>82537298
Rhodey, don't you have rehab to get to?

>>82537340
Source on that pic?

>>82537379
She was also going to be the main heroine for that film until they put in Black Widow.

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>>82537196
Stan was definitely not as cut this time around. Bucky really started to let himself go.

>>82537391
>Being Tony's friend is suffering

>>82537241
The kiss would have been better if she had grabbed him and he gave into it rather than him suddenly growing a pair. You get the bro nod no matter what.

>>82537391
kek

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All I really want to know is if it's as good as Winter Soldier. If so, I'll drop the cash to see it this weekend.

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>>82537431
Nah I've seen some pics of him working out on his Instagram and he was pretty fucking cut. It was just a little more strongfat this time around, plus they gave him really shitty and unflattering outfits.

>>82537451

oh hey it's John C Reilly

>>82537477
I feel like part of it was them trying to point out that he's been eating garbage because it's cheap.

So something bugs me about this whole setup for the Accords.

All of the operations where the Avengers are shown causing collateral damage are likely important enough to merit them anyway.

Invasion of Earth by aliens? Fuck yes send them in and Hulk would still drop some bricks on someone who was bothering to film instead of running for fucking cover during an invasion. Nevermind that the World Council just wanted to nuke the portal and the city with it. Fury disobeyed a direct order. Now hopefully they won't actually give a UN panel nuke launch authority but some of those signatory countries may just push for it anyway.

Washington DC? Hydra infiltrated SHIELD and the World Security Council. Alexander Pierce was the Sec Def promoted to the World Council. Whatever panel they use can surely be infiltrated by bad guys able to pay them just like Zemo did. Then to stop super helicarriers from eliminating people across the US they will be knocked out of the sky.

Sokovia? Stark caused it, sure, but once Ultron was running amok who else would stop him? He'd still life a city and people would still have buildings dropped on their head. Just like New York they were trying to stop the threat while mitigating civilian losses as much as they could.

Lagos? Hard to say if they'd have called in the Avengers for Crossbones unless they knew he was after some bio weapon and if it was suitably bad. Shit still happens on the job and regrettably innocent lives are lost in conflicts all the time. Doesn't make it any less a tragedy but nobody yet has found a way to stop all collateral damage.

Basically I can't think of a single thing the Accords would do that would have stopped any of the shit that went down. It was exactly what Cap said, just Tony could blame someone else with making the call to act so he doesn't feel the guilt when things go bad.

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>>82537451
It's more of an Avengers film done right than a Cap solo film imo but it's still worth the cash.

Nothing beats those hard hitting sounds in a theater.

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>>82537431
Nah I met him right after filming and he was solid buff. They just put him in really loose clothing that made him look too soft for his bulk.

Can we talk about that Raimi-esque music during most of the Spidey sequences?

>>82537501
It's not really about stopping shit as much as it was about they needed to have some way for these guys to take accountability instead of literally no recourse. The point was none of this was their intentional fault (in fact the entire plot of CW was none of their intentional fault either) but who takes the responsibility anyway?

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>>82537497
>mfw there was nothing but a big bag of chips and candy bars on the top of his fridge

At least he tried to buy some fruit.

Anybody else laugh hard when that building in the beginning blew up?

>>82537451
Its ok but not as good as WS.

Good
>Central storyline/conflict
>Emotional Cap/Iron Man moments
>Zemo
>Spidey

Bad
>Pacing
>Editing
>All those subplots that added little/nothing; making the movie convoluted
>Civil War but not really (not sure if good thing or bad thing)

I liked the movie but honestly it would have worked better if it were a straightforward Captain America movie. The central story between Cap, WS, and Zemo + Iron Man as a small supporting role would have made for a great movie. But making the movie out to be this huge conflict with all the Avengers, a ton of new characters, and all these subplots detracted from the movie.

Basically the movie feels like a Captain America: Winter Soldier sequel with an Avengers movie shoehorned in. In the same way Batman v Superman is a Man of Steel sequel with a Justice League movie shoehorned in. Both films suffer from nearly the same problems too.

>>82537503
did you get to fuck him

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>>82537329
>Can you move your seat up?
>No.

>those looks they give Cap after he kisses Sharon

>>82537451

Not as good as Winter Soldier but better than most Marvel movies and miles ahead of the clusterfuck that was AoU.

>>82537503
Where? A con?

>>82537451
I'd it's as good, if not better in some aspects as a movie. But I don't think it's quite fair to compare them because CW is more a team-based movie is WS is a solo.

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>>82537340
He'll be in Homecoming and IW.

>He's not doing any more solo movies
Yeah he's saying that now, just like he said he wasn't going to be in more MCU movies after IM3. Who knows. If Disney throws more insane million numbers after him he might do it.

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>>82537550
I wish. He did hug me though, and that's how I can confirm that there was 0 squish.

>>82537329
>>82537555
>I'M STEVE'S BEST FRIEND
>NO I AM

>>82537532
I don't know. Consider Tony actually presented this drawn out mopey holographic simulation of being a troubled kid and having parent issues to an entire class before just handing them free money. That entire scene screamed that Tony was trying to paint himself in a sympathetic light to the public instead of just being the guy who created Ultron and nearly fucked over the planet.

Bonus points if in the future it turns out that 1/3rd of those students whose projects he funded ended up creating some technology or got into a lab accident that turns them into super villains. Because every single movie he's been in Tony ends up creating or otherwise inspiring/empowering a villain.

I'm glad Zemo was pretty much nonexistent in advertising, because it made him way more interesting and surprising.

>>82537598
How did he smell?

>>82537549
>Pacing
>Editing
At no point did I think these were weird at all

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>>82537549
>Bad
>>Pacing
>>Editing

Compared to what?

>>82537598
>Sebastian Stan will never give you big stronk hug like proud Slav bear
CYKA BLYAT

>>82537611
He's such an understated villain, how WOULD you advertise him?

>>82537451
Roughly equal

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I was really surprised by how serious Tony was in this movie
>mfw "I don't care, he killed my mom."

>>82537549
The only pacing issues that I've noticed was the Peggy death scene, and maybe the part when Vision was explaining his reasoning. I felt like that was part was sorta rushed.

>>82537658

I feel like it's too convenient that he killed the Starks after making them crash

Why didn't he just take the glowing Gatorade packets and leave them there?

>>82537640
Not that anon but I can confirm that he gives the best hugs ever. Holy shit.

Chris gives pretty damn solid hugs too. they're somewhat improved for me though because I'm level with his mantits so I got a facefull of nice

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>>82537658
He was constantly shitted on to the point he couldn't even quip back to Hawkeye.

Shit got real

>>82537680
>"No witnesses."

>>82537643
I wouldn't. That's why he hits like a truck in this movie. You don't expect him. He rused EVERYONE.

Expecting a big fight with 5 other Winter Soldiers? Nope, he just killed them all. He wanted Cap and Iron Man tin the same room to kill eachother.

>>82537680
But he was supposed to assassinate them. You know, make sure they were dead.

>>82537680
Wasn't his mission to kill everyone included or whatever? That's how I took it, anyways.

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>>82537683
Where the fuck are you guys meeting these people?

>tfw I'll never bury my face into Evans pecs because we're the same height

>>82537683
I want to motorboat Chris Evans' fat tits.

>>82537686
>just straight up blasts Sam

Damn son.

>>82537620
>>82537637
>>82537671
The first hour suffers a lot in these departments. The film grinds to a halt for a great deal of time as it jumps around between points in time and locations. Also the quick cut editing ala the Bourne movies was headache inducing especially during the opening scenes.

>>82537643
If he actually had a suit, they could.

seeing how Zemo was depicted in CW, if Marvel ever decides to do Thunderbolts, they'll probably turn them into MCU Skwad

>>82537683

>chest level with someone that's 6'

please be a qt

>>82537680
What? And risk one or both of them living and tipping people off that he took them?
It's called being cautious and wrapping up loose ends.

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>>82537613
If I had a sense of smell I could tell you, but alas.

I really do blame him looking chubby on the wardrobe choices, though. Maybe they were trying to soften his look to seem less scary and threatening to make a distinction between Bucky and the Winter Soldier.

So did anyone actually read the Sokovia Accords?
They just immediately started arguing about it.

>>82537760
Chris was super friendly with hugs even though the staff kept trying to say not to hug him. He just grabbed me and stuffed me right into his tits. Best day of my life.

>>82537770
You don't have a sense of smell? Holy shit. I guess that could be useful like using a public bathroom.

Did you always have this or did you lose it later in life? How does food taste to you?

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>>82537241
I agree. He didn't even know who she really was until like a few days before. And its not like they have been working together and developing a friendship/relationship between the events of WS and this, she was working for the CIA and he was off being an Avenger.

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>tfw watching this movie
I was moist. Seriously. I was sweating quite a bit in the theater.

Martin Freeman was wasted. Goddamn Marvel

>>82537800
Were his tits soft or firm?

>>82537807
He's being set up for later obviously.

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>>82537803
>the faces of approval from Sam and Bucky after that scene

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>>82537800
I'm so fucking jealous right now, anon. I'm a girl but 6'1" so I never get selected like this.

>>82537717
Cons, usually.

>>82537742
same

>>82537760
I'm a womanlette, don't worry.

>>82537821
SO SOFT SO PLUSH
With some underlying hardness because R I P P E D.

>>82537161

They could have gone with a James Bond agent feel, suave, iron man-ish, and double agent-ish, but female version.

Instead she's just kind of a bitch who walks around and talks.

>>82537806
So was I. I had to clean up when I got home and it wasn't even hot outside.

>>82537787
I'm kinda assuming Stark, Rhodes, and Romanoff probably at least skimmed them after the argument before signing, but I get your point.
I think the idea was that the finer details really didn't matter to Rogers and Wilson, any amount of oversight or compromise was too much.

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Even if I met Sebastian Stan out on the streets of New York or something like that I'd probably be too spaghetti to ever go up to him and hug him or anything like that.

Goddamn am I happy Pepper is finally gone. Imo, they should have killed her off in IM3 - serving as an even better reason for Tony going full retard in AOU.

>>82537841

womanlettes are the best kind of women. I'm the same height as Chris and there's nothing better than qts that are a head length or so shorter than you

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>>82537841
>SO SOFT SO PLUSH
>With some underlying hardness because R I P P E D.

That sounds cozy as fuck.

I need a gif of that scene were Sam and Bucky were smiling and nodding from the car at Cap.

>both get their asses handed to them by Spidey
>"I hate you"
best line in the film

>>82537871
Me, too. I can talk straight to anyone except the qts.

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>tfw the rest of /co/ can finally discuss this
We've been expecting you

>>82537613
This man asks the right questions

>Scott was just some two bit thief
>Called by in Capt. himself
>Starts kicking ass and taking names
>Gets bodied
>No orange slices
>In Superjail (tm)
Who has authority over the suit, Scott or Pym?

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>>82537899
Quality is rubbish because camrip, but maybe someone has better?

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>>82537926
I literally avoided /co/ and any social media after the second trailer dropped.

Thank God for Jojo threads on /a/

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>Abed working for Shield
>Dean still complaining about money

>>82537451

It's tough, I'd say it's roughly on par with Winter Soldier but maybe a little below it because it's an Avengers movie rather than being Cap 3 and what it deals with is different. It simply has a lot more moving parts and characters, so it doesn't have the same level of focus as Winter Soldier.

That said, it is unambiguously the best Avengers movie. It juggles it's last cast and it's wider scale pretty much perfectly.

>>82537965
God bless you sir.

>>82537501
I found it dumb that they'd need council approval to go into action. All of those things expect for maybe Lagos happened really fast, you can't wait for a committee to come to consensus on that kind of thing.

>>82537879
Chris is the perfect height. Nothing is better than a guy that can pick you up and reach things off the shelves and smoosh you into his ample bosom.

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Grilling was fucking fantastic. Crossbones is one of my favorite villains and he knew exactly how fucking unhinged and obsessed with Cap he is


>This is for dropping a building on my face.

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anyone want some paprikash?

>>82537965
Bucky is :3 as fuck

>>82537340
He said that he's open to doing a IM4.

>>82537993

Well now I wanna be that guy to someone but I'm too lazy to get ripped, and I don't have a laugh worth of becoming a meme.

Who was the best boy?

>>82538005
>tfw your oneitis forcefully buries you 50ft beneath your shared loft
Anyone else know that feel

>>82538031
It'll always be Cap with Scott as a close second.

>>82537613
>>82537951
Stan smelled like..really slightly of cologne? Like he had put some on the day before or something, but also soapy. It was nice.

Chris just smelled warm. I dunno how else to describe it, but 10/10.

>>82537996

Those knife-gauntlet things were the right balance between ridiculous and genuinely cool.

And I know people are burned about Crossbones dying, but honestly that character is done. There's really nothing interesting you can do with him if you aren't doing Death of Cap, it's not like he's a richly nuanced character filled with multitudes worth exploring.

>>82537975
That mini-Community reunion was weird

>>82538031
ANTS

>>82537967
I know what you mean, after the Spider Man trailer I refused to see clips, ads, or anything else.

I have normalfag friends and a job, so dodging spoilers was easy. Also, I switched and started going to /v/.

>>82537975
Community confirmed MCU, the Dean was as Dean as the Deand could Dean

Are you Tony Stank?

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>>82538053
There's nothing like a nice smelling man.

Fuck, I'd be thrown out for sniffing.

>>82538070
Who do you guys think will appear next? Chang?

>>82538105
>>82538070
>>82537975
I hope Jeff

I want him to be on a male burlesque, cosplaying as cap

>>82538033
>50 ft
More like 50 miles.

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>>82538094
Even Stan shits on Tony in this. Guy really couldn't catch a break,

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So, how do you feel about the movie? Subjective as hell or objective as fuck, I wanna hear your opinions.

>>82537963
Scott.

Hank can't use the suit anymore.

>>82538055
Seeing a confrontation between Rumlow and Bucky would have been nice, given the history and the tables turning. I feel like Bucky was robbed of being able to confront Pierce, Rumlow, or Karpov after what they did to him.

>>82538105
yfw he's the real Mandarin

I'm just pissed because I didn't realize my theater's thursday showings had this god-awful pre-show 30 minutes before. I just wanted good seats, but I had to sit through this cover band doing generic rock, horrible cosplayers acting for the kids (overweight cap, ebay budget suit spidey, and cheap ass wig storm), a "costume" contest with mostly people in t-shirts competing, and a ticket drawing that was really just an ad for x-men apocalypse.

>>82538139
>So, how do you feel about the movie?

>>82537965

>>82538080
>Also, I switched and started going to /v/.
How was that? I haven't been to /v/ in the last 5 or so years because I heard the decline was too bad.

I also tried to revisit /ck/ but it's all hurr meme foods now.

>>82538139
Subjectively best in the MCU so far.

Objectively best adaptation of Spider Man onscreen so far.

>>82538136
>hello darkness, my old friend

>>82538080
/v/ is shittier than ever

>>82538139
Fucking great. I only have nitpick problems with it, and maybe that's just because I'm E X T R E M E H Y P E right now but I loved it. I honestly wouldn't mind rewatching it more than a few times in the theatre.

>>82538149

isn't that the guy played by Bobby Lee from Mad TV

>>82538140
I wonder how will antman 2 work out now that scott is a fugitive again.

Hank Pym is going to chew out Scott's ass out for losing to Stark

>>82538139

I have some issues with the resolution of some of the character arcs and a couple of the action bits were a little too shakey-cam for my tastes, but I still really enjoyed it overall.

The most surprising thing about it was how well they integrated Panther and Spidey into the story without them feeling forced.

>>82538140
I know, I just figured Hank would have some say in how it was used.

I guess he doesn't mind if it fucks with a Stark

Hey guys

What was the blue shit in Howard Stark's trunk?

Some new super-solider stuff, yeah? But from what/where?

>>82538191
Since ANTS 2 is releasing after IW Part 1: I'm guessing it's gonna be something about getting people out, or recruiting people or something.

>>82538191
Even better question, doesn't Scott getting arrested mean that the US govt. has the suit and Pym particles now?
Unless they went full comics retard and kept the suit in the Raft

>>82538164
It's not worse than /tv/, but it's pretty shit.

>>82538139
Pretty damn great.

But I mainly have to praise the close combat fight scenes.

>>82538205

Maybe it's some of the stuff Ross gave Tim Roth in Incredible Hulk?

>>82538139
It's really solid. the only way I can see you not enjoying it is
a. if you really can't handle the fact it's truly an avengers movie, not a captain america film
b. if fun, but dumb capeshit blockbusters that thrive on spectacle just aren't your thing (but what are you doing here if that's the case?)

aka, it doesn't do anything to try and reinvent the genre or shake things up, it knows what it is, plays to it's strengths and is a fantastic example of a superhero movie.

>>82538205
knockoff serum he developed after cap was frozen i guess

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>>82538139
What I liked:
>the hard hitting fights. The fights actually looked and sounded like they did damage
>T'Challa. Literally 10/10 perfect
>Everyone on Team Cap. Perfect chemistry
>Peter a cute
>Steve in a 3 piece suit
>Steve flexing
>Tony getting shitted on

What I didn't like:
>hamfisted Sharon
>Crossbones was kill too soon
>Zemo didn't suit up/wasn't menacing enough

Good for a team movie but I still want more Cap solo movies

>>82538139
To be honest, I really didn't like it at all.

How the fuck was Hawkeye better here than every other single appearance he's ever had?

>>82538199
I think the fact that he got crippled by that made him dig in hard. Sunken costs and all.

>>82537451

Almost equal.

Slight edge probably to WS because it was so focused and had a lot of character development/slower moments, but CW is a close second.

>>82538205
Stark somehow manage to recreate the formula, or a close approximation.

it doesn't seems to involve vita ray, however. We also don't know if the test subject went crazy because of the formula or because they weren't Steve.

>>82538245
I am tired of them just constantly killing fucking villains. That's not what the fucking comics were about. You don't just kill people.

>>82538105
Dong hopefully but I'd be really happy with Chang too.

>>82538247

He was pretty good in AoU.

>you go out there, you're an Avenger

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>>82538247
Based Russos.

I can't wait for their Thor.

>>82538205
My first thought was Kree blood.
But that would be silly, right?

>>82537555

Best two scenes in the movie.

>>82538269
>I am tired of them just constantly killing fucking villains.
Zemo lived which is far more than I expected. It's not like Crossbones had shit to do.

>>82538269

These are movies, not comic books. They have to be movies first, and for the most part the proper resolution of a villain's arc in an action movie is death.

>>82538283
the Russo are not directing Thor.

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>>82538205
Super Solider Serum. You need to watch The Incredible Hulk.

It's the same shit they pumped into Abomination.

>>82538269
But Zemo's alive

Oh you meant Crossbones. Who the fuck cares. He had a role and did it

>>82537747

>Straight up blasts the guy who gave himself up to try and save Rhodey

>Straight up blasts the guy who literally went through the same shit when his partner was hit with an RPG

>>82538212
Hydra also got their hands on Pym particles in his solo movie. There's going to be microscopic people running around everywhere by the time ANTS & WASP comes out

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Honestly, the only thing that bugged me is that they couldn't even make a reference to his mask.

Like not even the old special ops photos couldn't have like some sort of mask or balaclava?

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>got a little spoiled about what happens during the fight with Tony Cap and Bucky
>thought "My father made that shield" would be shouted angrily
>mfw it was weak and he could barely get it out
Christ, Tony, you're killing me.

>>82538299
Infinity Wars m8

>>82538269
Bad people don't get to live very long in realistic situations.

>>82538292
more shit to live for*

>>82538296
And even then the actual important villain lived. Weird complaint imo.

>>82538299
I think they meant Avengers.

>>82538314

>help my wife

>>82538299
But they are directing IW which obviously Thor will be in

>>82538305
Blonsky actually was a super soldier in the film for a bit, until he fucking stupidly walked up to Hulk face to face.

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>Yfw Steve stabbed Tony in the chest with his shield

>>82538299
Infinity War.

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>>82538314
Tony was truly broken by the end.

>>82538305
>>82538205
I think Tony junior inherited his bad luck from his dad, considering howthe both of them seems to keep getting screw by their own invention.

>>82537988
Yeah the UN isn't known for being all that speedy, or for coming to much close to consensus. Plus just check some of the countries who have chaired the Human Rights Council.

>>82537549

>Pacing

Hell no. The movie absolutely had great pacing.

I actually was worried it would be at a break-neck speed like TFA was, but thank god the Russos know how to fucking have some quieter/slower scenes to break up the action.

>>82538283
They're doing Thor too? But aren't they also doing Infinity Wars?

Holy shit they're everywhere.

Holy cannolli, I loved this movie.

Spider-man and Black Panther were top tier. I didn't expect Ant Man to be a stand-out, but what do you know.

>I'm your conscience

I don't care
He killed my mom

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>>82538335

>>82538335
If Tony's armor is that weak, how does it stay together after being hit by way worse shit?

A super human stabbing him with a piece of metal is only the equivalent of like a car hitting you or something.

Cap's strength is only about 800-1000 pounds.

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>>82538335

>>82538305
Wasn't the version they used was an imperfect version or some shit?

>>82538305
Oh shit.

I'd forgotten that it was blue.

Gotta admit that is an incredibly roundabout way to get your evil plan off Zemo

>>82538350
Just IW

>>82538368
No, they were just using the serum. It took a bunch of other shit with a pure human as well for it to work out.

In the comics they tried to replicate the super soldiers a fuckton of times and most people except for Bucky turned into monsters instead of Super Soldiers like Cap.

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>>82538314
People like to shit on Tony because he's almost as big a quipster as Peter, but he's never been more serious.
>I don't care. He killed my mom.

>>82538312
A scene of him breaking into somewhere to steal something while in a dark purple balaclava would be GOAT

>>82538359
Bucky's earlier attempt might have weakened the armor.

I think the most important question is did Stan Lee misread Tony's surname as Stank, or did those anti-reg jokesters misspell his name on purpose?

If the latter is true, who did it?

>>82538359
>a piece of metal
Well it is Vibranium

>>82538314
>Tony makes Cap give him back the shield
>totally loses his mind due to grief
>dubs himself Ironmurrica and incorporates the shield into his arsenal
>meets up with Cap again reading to rub it in his face
>turns out Black Panther made new shields for all of Tony's people since they're in the land of Vibranium
>Tony tries to break his shield over his knee and ends up wrecking his new suit of armor

Infinity War is going to be fun!

>>82538396
That might help, but realistically, the strength behind the object is what matters most.

>>82538359
>a piece of metal
That's vibranium son

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>>82538312

>>82538274
Who would Donald Glover play in the MCU? Inb4 Miles Morales.

>>82538388
Tony is still my favorite character. He's an ass, yeah, but the man is well-written and he's dealing with a lot of shit.

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>>82538355
I just could not deal.
i was 100% cap then
it dropped to a 60 really fast

>>82538355
>He killed my mom
Notice how he didn't mention his dad.

>>82537803
In WS, they supposedly had been hallway-flirting for a while.

Then shit went down and she revealed that she was assigned to hallway-flirt with him, you know, for protection.

>>82538415
Tony's suit was scrapped a little after going into what I assume was carbon steel/titanium alloy jet engine blades at like mach 10 or some insane speed.

And a guy with a piece of vibranium who can lift at most 800-1000 pounds breaks his armor?

>>82538396
And Cap wasn't just a mere super soldier but a super soldier powered by the righteous fury of someone trying to hurt his Bucky

Or so I'm sure the fanfics will go.

>>82538395
The others were in jail when the package came and Steve wouldn't joke around seeing has how he was apologizing for not being honest with him.

>>82538438
He's Ultimate Cap.

>>82538395
I bet it was Scott
>Steve is writing note
>Scott keeps telling him to call him a dickhead or a cock gobbler
>Shut up scott
>OK fine....hey I'll take that to the Wakandian post office for you

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>>82538429
Makes me sad to think about.

>>82538374
I like how in his introduction it's immediately
>if i don't get this mission report now, i'm going to have to make this movie 2 hours and something minutes. and bloody.

>>82538388
>>82538355

>All that emotional connection between Howard and Tony in IM2
>All the connections that the audience had made with Howard in Agent Carter and Captain America TFA
>The fact that Tony never got to reconcile his differences with his dad before he died

>"He killed my mom."

Fucking really?

>>82538429
I think a big thing there was that his mom was the most "there" in his life, wheras his dad..not so much. He was probably more attached to her.

>>82538359
Cap is really really strong

>>82538429
Do you think Tony, late at night when he thinks nobody is watching, tried to make out with his Mom's hologram? And Pym had annnnnnnts! recording the entire thing?

>>82538451
He's not as powerful as ultimate cap

>>82538407

>"That things doesn't obey the laws of physics at all"

It's vibranium. It doesn't get a shit about your realistic expectations. DID YOU SEE PANTHER GIVING ZERO FUCKS ABOUT GETTING SHIT BY A HELICOPTER?

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>>82538429
His dad led a dangerous life, but his mom was just collateral.

>>82538468
He held his own against Spider-Man who stopped a speeding car like it was nothing.

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Show of hands. No need to be embarrassed

Who squealed under their breath?

Who was silently reciting the words to themselves as Sharon was saying it?

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>>82538429
His dad knew who the best boy was and still is - forever and always Steve.

>>82538429
It doesn't mean he doesn't care. It just means he doesn't care as much. You respect and love your dad, but your mom is a bond unlike any other. Plus, she seemed to give more of a shit at that time.

Howard had faith in his kid. Don't forget what he said in IM2

>>82538477
THE ALLOY DOESN'T MAKE IT SOMEHOW DAMAGE SOMETHING ELSE MORE

THAT'S DEPENDENT ON THE STRENGTH BEHIND IT

THE ALLOY JUST MEANS IT WON'T BREAK DOWN FIRST

>>82538460
He and his dad have a complicated relationship at best, and sure Tony has managed to come to something approaching peace with his father. Nevertheless his feelings about the man remain Complicated™.

But if you just saw someone choking out your Mom who the fuck are you going to feel?

>>82538461
Well there was probably also a lot of reason for why someone would kill Howard Stark, but Tony's mom was just a civillian.

>>82538486
I'm actually disappointed Steve didn't say it.

>>82538486
I was, but it got fucked up because she left parts out.

RIVER OF TRUTH, MOTHERFUCKER

>>82538429
He had to reconcile with his dad. He loved his mom the most

>>82538460
I think it was more that Tchalla was the "you killed my father" guy in this movie. If Tony did it too, it would have felt recycled. He also probably had a stronger relationship with his mother in life despite making recent connections with Howard.

>>82538441
The fanfics? That's how the movie went.

>>82538477
>Diamonds mean I can just tap something and itll break instantly
>Vibranium likewise means I can simply touch a wall with it and it will collapse instantly

So a seagull with a piece of vibranium can pierce through solid steel now, since Cap, a guy with 1,000 class strength, can penetrate Iron Man's armor that withstands building collapses and massive explosions?

>>82538438

>he can lift between 800-1000 pounds
>pulled a helicopter down with one hand

Why was everyone okay with Tony recruiting a child for his army? He goes from stopping muggings to being brainwashed and thrown headlong into an international fight against superhuman murderers and outside of a single quip nobody bats an eye.

>>82538499
Tony saw Bucky literally smash his father in the face. It wasn't even at an awkward angle or an unclear picture. It was full on frontal violence.

>>82538312
I want his sword and aviator jacket combo with dat ass.

>>82538510
you killed my father
prepare to die

You think BP counts as one of WS' movies?

I really feel like he will make a cameo in it. Like they un-freeze him for a second to help out

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>>82538331

I got a kick out of that scene

>>82538511
If that was the case they why wasn't Steve screaming tears as he rammed down the shield while screaming, "BUUUUUCKYYYYYYYYY!"

>>82538502
It seemed like an appropriate use of the speech and good inspiration to reinforce Steve in his point of view. I'm not sure when he could have made the speech.

The big surprises to me at the last act were two things
>Bucky offing Tony's parents wasn't confirmed until this movie
>Tony never found out about this info until this movie

>>82538486
I didn't realize Sharon was saying this quote until near the end, where I said with her
>No, you move

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>>82538499
>But if you just saw someone choking out your Mom who the fuck are you going to feel?

Not that, anon but I would feel relieved. Not everyone had good parents.

>>82538359
He was in a boss fight with Tony, he just hit the glowy weak spot.

>>82538460
I kind of liked that. A clip of footage saying 'btw I did love you' isn't going to erase 40-something years of resentment.

>>82538525
He was not pulling the Helicopter down. He was holding it in place. His body was strong enough that it wasn't just torn to pieces, and he was able to position himself as a wedge.

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>Watching Bucky and Cap style on Tony
Fucking bullshit

>>82538525
Well the only one who tried to actively attack him was Bucky.

>>82538460

His mother was an innocent that he'd never had a complicated relationship with and 40 years of bad feelings. He mentions to Steve earlier in the movie that he'd made peace with his dad never showing him love while he was alive, but mom always openly loved him and he loved her.

>>82538502
Honestly it fits Peggy better in this universe than Steve.

>>82538540
Because he literally had no other reason to be fighting Tony in that scene other than defending Bucky. It was obvious that was his singular motivation.

>>82538526
And there are times when Tony has probably fantasized about doing that with his armor. Again, complicated.

His dad he's wanted out of his life and even when the man died he wanted out from under his shadow. His mother he has zero baggage with. No conflicting feelings and zero evidence he ever wanted his mommy to go away and never come back.

I liked how Peter still wanted to get up and fight even though he was totally out of his league

"No no, I can still fight! I have to get him back"
"Stay down you're done"

>>82538525
They didn't know he was a kid.
>How old is this guy?
>I didn't carbon date him. Young-ish

>>82537877
>not wanting more Pepper in office dresses
Smhtbhfamalam

>>82538502

I actually think it being re-contextualized by being delivered by Sharon in the movie makes it much stronger than the original.

If Cap said it in this movie, it would make him look like a huge asshole.

Why has Pepper Potts been absent lately? Is Gwyneth Paltrow's contract up?

>>82538554
Tony can't handle those hands, son. Even Friday said you can't beat him hand to hand.

>>82538553
He does though. At first the helicopter is taking off straight up, then Steve jumps on one of the skids, and pulls it back down to the helipad.

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>mfw Spider-Signal was confirmed

>>82538525
He was kicking their asses and as soon as things got serious Tony told him to get out. It was a no-kill fight.

>>82538525

Nobody else knew, and even Tony realized he'd done a bad thing and tapped him out after things went badly.

>>82538589
Probably.

Or Gwyneth Paltrow has become a huge bitch lately and nobody gives a fuck about her anymore.

>>82538569
Because he knows Bucky is a victim made into a weapon and used against his will. You hardly expect Cap to be the kind of guy who will back down just because Tony needs to kill someone. You don't think he also didn't want Tony to not be a killer?

>>82538359

>If Tony's armor is that weak, how does it stay together after being hit by way worse shit? A super human stabbing him with a piece of metal is only the equivalent of like a car hitting you or something.

It's titanium alloyed with some gold, varying from 1 to 4 cm in thickness depending on the area. Note that Steve's hits did almost no damage to the armor until he sat on top of Tony and repeatedly bashed the thinnest part of it (the helmet) until it broke. Also, note that the arc reactor isn't really well protected.

>Cap's strength is only about 800-1000 pounds.

Uh, he lifted a motorcycle with three women sitting on top of it in the first movie over his head with no apparent effort. That's already 1,300 or so pounds right there and it didn't seem to strain him at all. He's probably a multi-tonner in this 'verse, though still below Iron Man's brute strength (IM overpowered Bucky's metal arm, which Steve was unable to do even with both arms), which was specified in the first movie (trouble lifting a sedan) + third movie (Mark 42 can only lift 900 pounds in the air, check his HUD in the plane rescue sequence; of course it could lift more with the ground as leverage) + promotional art for the second movie to be about 3 tons at max.

>>82538525
>superhuman murderers

No one in that fight was trying to kill each other.

>>82538438
You're forgetting adrenaline/rage amplifies your powers. This is Comics 101

>>82538578
>You guys ever see that movie Empire Strikes Back?

By the way, go see Rogue One in theaters soon kids

>>82538575
I liked that Tony had an oh shit moment and told him to pack it in once it looked like it he could be hurt

>>82538589
Paltrow is notoriously hard to deal with and disliked in Hollywood. They probably just shed her off to make filming easier like they did with Natalie Portman in the Thor movies.

>>82538575
He wasn't that out of his league. Just didn't have the stamina.
>>82538595
They ganked him. If it was one on one at the start, Tony would have won the second he came up with the idea to analyze his fight style.

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That airport scene was just... why?

Why did they keep quipping?

I almost fucking busted out laughing when Falcon said "You know you're not supposed to talk during fights, right?" to Spiderman.. but then they KEPT FUCKING TALKING

Bucky vs Tony vs Cap was the only good fight in the movie. The Winter Soldier was better. Suck my dick.

>>82538606
>It was a no-kill fight.
And yet Vision almost killed Falcon or Warmachine, and Cap and Bucky were almost crushed to death under that conning tower.

>>82538314

Same reaction here. He sounded like he wanted to burst into tears and then drink himself to death. Then Cap just left him there to stew in his own regret and loneliness.

It would have been much more tragic if he actually did kill Bucky though. How would he go on after that? How would Steve treat him after that? Would Tony even be able to live with himself after he calmed down?

That's a what-if I want to see.

>>82538655
Vision of Murder

>>82538651
Suck mine first.

>>82538630

>No one in that fight was trying to kill each other.

The whole reason they're even fighting was because accidents happen and people get killed while they're using their powers.

>>82538655
>Cap and Bucky were almost crushed to death under that conning tower.
Vision didn't blast it when they were in crushing range, they ran into the falling debris.

>>82538651
at least they kept it to the appropriate character.

>>82538651
>wanting the fight to be all grunts and punches

I bet you're super fun at parties

>>82538655

if Vision didn't miss he would have fried Sam's thrusters and forced him to land

His overwhelming desire to impregnate Wanda distracted him

>>82538525

To be fair, he told Spider-Man to stay back and web them up. Spider-Man chose to run in.

Spider-Man will return

>>82538651
I have a feeling it was to keep the humor level up, make it more of a funny scene than a serious and not upset kiddos too much that their heroes are wailing on each other.

>>82538314
i was hoping BP would bring up that Cap's shield was made with Vibranium

>>82538651

>We haven't met yet. My name is Cliff.
>I don't care.

>>82538655

Notice that both things things were the production of Vision, and they happened after someone hurt Wanda.

He was pretty openly shaken (as much as Vision can be) and off his game because of it.

>>82538651
I thought it was pretty good though. How triggered were you?

>>82538704

I'm more interested in Marisa Tomei's return

>>82538688
No I mean, EVERYONE was quipping. Even the serious characters like War Machine.

>>82538696
>wanting every capeshit movie to be disney quipfests
>not wanting a more serious marvel movie for once

I was expecting that to be Civil War but I guess not. Doubt it'll ever happen. Quips sells tickets.

>>82538651
Characters that are supposed to quip should quip though. Notice how when Barton tries to banter with T'Challa he gets shut down hard.

>>82538698
>>His overwhelming desire to impregnate Wanda distracted him
I think I found the plot for the second arc of Vision's ongoing.

>>82538491
>>82538512

Cap took the shield and slammed it into IM's chest piece. Buildings and shit, or more realistically cars, which broke his arm, have a lot of force spread out over a large area. Tony's suit is probably designed to withstand and absorb that force, spreading it out over other systems.

Caps shield is like an axe. Lots of Force focused into a edge. Throwing the shield didn't do much damage to him, but Cap basically took a big vibranium axe and smashed it full force into iron man's chest. The fact that cap didn't cut ironman in half is a credit to the suit.

Hell, the suit still had fucking power running through it. Enough that Tony could still walk with all that shit on him.

>>82538655
>Cap and Bucky are headed to the Quinjet in the hangar
>"Vision! Stop them!"
>expect Vision to just fly over and try to stop then physically
>decides to laser beam a control tower in half

What in the actual fuck?!

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>>82538710
>Cliff

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>>82538710
>My name is Cliff.
>Cliff

Not sure if this was intentional but I kek'd

>>82538625
Yes, clearly, I'm not sure what you're trying to argue against. I'm just saying that Cap was extra passionate in his fight against Tony not because he wanted to hurt Tony but because he wanted to save Bucky. I think Cap was right in stopping Tony's ragefit and taking it out on a victim.

>>82538729
War Machine always quips with Tony.

>>82538710

>Cliff

ah yes, Cliff Barbrady,, I love that guy

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>>82538704
Fuck, that was so satisfying to see. Just a few years ago I thought we were going to be stuck with mediocre-to-poor Spidey films forever, and look where we are now.

>>82538722
Not triggered at all. My ticket was only $5. I still thought that movie was okay, just thought the airport scene was laughably bad.

Then they had Ant-Man moving slow when he was big. That's not how it works.

>>82538730
That's the problem though. I think T'Challa was the only one in the movie that didn't quip.

>>82538729
You said it yourself, it's because normies like the quips. They had the big scene of what people paid to see, superheroes duking it out, so they went in on the quips to make sure people felt like they got their money's worth.

>>82538729
>Even the serious characters like War Machine.
>Don Cheadle's War Machine
>Serious
He's not Spidey or Iron Man, but he's not terribly serious.

>>82538678
Yeah but not each other, just lame civilians.

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Doctor Strange Villain Bingo:

> Kaecilius/Chthon
> Modred/Chthon
> Dormammu
> Magus
> Kaluu/Shuma Gorath
> Cagliostro
> Nightmare
> De 'Spayre

Modred is such pure JUST, so the breakaway Sorcerer will incorporate aspects of him even if not him.

>>82538710
I don't get it

>>82538729
It's in one scene. Otherwise there are little to no 'quips'. Honestly don't know what you expected. This is the most serious we've seen both Tony and Steve.

>>82538743
"So how was the Funvee?"

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>>82538729
War Machine has quipped since conception in the MCU. What are you on about?

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>>82538772

Dormammu

So what was the fuck-up with Stark's teleprompter during his lecture at the start of the movie? They said something about it but I didn't catch what it was.

>>82538729
>serious Marvel

That's what Netflix and to a lesser extent Agents of SHIELD are for.

>thought the movie was okay, but visibly flawed
>go on /co/
>everyone's sucking its cock and berating anyone that criticizes it

ant-man 2.0

>>82538791
Pepper didn't go, they forgot to change it to not include it.

Is it just me, or did T'Challa say "Die!" sometimes when striking? I liked his battle grunts and fighting style, though.

>>82538750
>Then they had Ant-Man moving slow when he was big. That's not how it works.
Giants with the reaction times of regular-sized people are OP as hell though.

>>82538786
I read this in his MvsC3 voice and It was GREAT

>>82538791
He was supposed to introduce Pepper Potts, who cancelled last minute. And then you find out that he and Pepper are on a break. I laughed at poor Steve thinking the news was that Pepper was pregnant.

>>82538791
Pepper dumped his ass so she didn't attend.

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>>82538602
>>82538745

>>82538553
What, do you think he's fucking tied to it? He has to hold it in place. If you look at the scene again, you'll see him not only holding the helicopter, but after he adjusts his grip, he manages a proper curl. You curl on pull day for a reason. He was pulling the helicopter.

>>82538791
They left in a line about Pepper, but she cancelled so she wasn't there, and Tony got awkward when the line came up.

>>82538813
MUH OPINION

>>82538750
>best scene of the film
>laughably bad

Gotta be trollin

>>82538791
The teleprompter had a bunch of lines written assuming that Pepper was there beside him, he has to improvise a quick ending to the speech to get past them.

Afterwards his assistant apologizes for not updating the speech,

>>82538813
You should have seen this place after the first Avengers movie came out

>>82538586

I want to see Pepper lose her cool while working in said office dresses.

And they burn off her in tatters

>>82538791
There is still text Introducing Pepper, as she was supposed to be there. This makes him mopy,

>>82538817
>Dat TATSUMAKISENPUKYAKU

I liked his, cap's and bucky's fighting style

>>82538331
>Blonsky actually was a super soldier in the film for a bit, until he fucking stupidly walked up to Hulk face to face.
Yeah, he was really the first Marvel Super-soldier that was shown in the MCU. Most people consider that a preview of Captain America's abilities. He had enough healing factor to fully heal in a few days after getting most of his bones broken.

>>82538813
No one is berating anyone. The discussion is pretty civilized.

>>82538819
Not that Anon, but isn't that kinda why Scott does it?

>>82538730
>>82538750
Captain American didn't quip, beside that part with Spiderman.

>>82538831
Not trolling, my dude. The airport scene literally went like this:

>*hero attacks hero*
>one of those heroes quips
>go to 2 different heroes
>*hero attacks hero*
>one of those heroes quips

repeated about 10 times

>>82538829
>mathletes

I want to bully him so much.

>>82537996
Hey, I have that exact set of gear.

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>>82538733
>Hell, the suit still had fucking power running through it. Enough that Tony could still walk with all that shit on him

>"If my math is right- and it always is- it can output 9 gigajoules a second
>the apple-sized reactor has more power production than a nuclear power plant
>mfw Tony hasn't solved all world problems by giving one to every major country and getting infinite cheap clean energy

>>82538750
>Then they had Ant-Man moving slow when he was big. That's not how it works.
He kind of hand to make sure he wouldn't flat out crush someone, if I was a giant in a no kill fight I'd move slow as fuck too.

>>82538791
It said he was introducing the director of the funding program, Pepper Potts, but obviously they broke up and she wasn't doing it anymore.

>>82538865
and that's bad because?

>>82538865
I thought it was good.

*three gigajoules per second, sorry.

>>82538817
he was actively trying to kill Bucky.