The Great X-Men Storytime - Vol. 3: New Mutants (Part 2)

>>82503714
can we stay with the mutants who don't have the lamest power on earth please

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>>82503845
Haha no
When I said we would read nearly everything I did mean nearly EVERYTHING

>>82503845
Dazzler has a cool power though.

I fucking love Dazzler, and I apolgise for nothing, especially not to this cunt>>82503845

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>>82504389
Is it legit love or waifu love? Or a little of both?

>>82504389
Dazzler is another victim of Jean Grey. She would've been on X-Factor if Jean hadn't been brought back

She was in the X-Men arcade game and that failed cartoon pilot Pryde of the X-men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2q5SYPbwFk

>>82503573
Are you going to do the Beauty and the Beast mini?
>>82504500
>She would've been on X-Factor if Jean hadn't been brought back
Pretty sure X-Factor was meant to be O5 from the beginning, she appeared in those things because she was part of the Outback Team.

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>>82504718
>Are you going to do the Beauty and the Beast mini?
Yes.

>>82503573
A little Dazzler history backgrounder, for you younger anons reading along:

http://cv-zedricdimalanta.tumblr.com/post/126620837939/a-little-dazzler-history

What's so funny about all this is that Marvel was really committed to the concept of a "disco superhero" who would have a real-world recording artist/actress counterpart. Even with Dazzler's commercial failure, Marvel tried doing the same thing again with Nightcat in 1991:

http://thegeeksverse.com/2015/09/09/leaving-proof-278-the-curious-case-of-marvels-nightcat/

I think a lot of this could be chalked up to Stan Lee... after he stepped down as editor and moved to Los Angeles to serve as sort of Marvel's senior West Coast rep, he became fixated on the idea of Marvel breaking through to the wider pop culture scene via dance/pop music.

>>82504718
No X-Factor was planned before the Jean retcon was,

> When Jackson Guice and I were developing the series, Jean Grey was still stone-cold dead. Since we knew we would have to have the “babe factor” in any Marvel X-men series, we made the decision to draft Dazzler as Marvel Girl’s replacement.
Bob Layton

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/06/26/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-161/3/

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>>82504847
>“babe factor”
Oh geez, haha

>>82503623
Now, are those guys pissed because Dazzler is a mutant or because she sings disco?

>>82504988
They're not pissed, they just want to rape her.

Sorry for ruining this but Dazzler has m-pox, and according to CBR "an important mutant will die in A-force", río dazzler 2funky4us

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>>82505296

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That's all for today, tomorrow we go back to Uncanny X-Men! Until then!

>>82505296
Someone didn't read Claremont's X-Treme X-Men.

>>82504847
Kind of makes you wonder what would have been if Layton and Guice were allowed to go with their original plan to use Dazzler as X-Factor's "designated female member."

I suppose Jean Grey coming back would have been inevitable given Kurt Busiek's hard-on for the character, but had her return come later, maybe it would have been handled better. I've always thought that the way the writers got rid of the problem posed by Cyclops' marriage to Madelyne Pryor was a bit of a cop-out, and it sort of opened the door for increasingly incredulous and lazy retcons in the X-books.

>>82503699
Dazzler feels like a stealth slice of life/romance comic, honestly.

I missed the whole thread, i was excited for Dazzler

>>82503916
>I can find this interdimensional rift of unspeakable power in...a disco!
That's so stupid it's kinda awesome.

>>82504265
You know, the problem with Dazzler's solo isn't her powers, her outfit, or even her outdated gimmick. It's that her comic seems to focus more on guest stars trying to get me to like Dazzler than on Dazzler herself.

>>82506094
>The series, however, was not free from critique. Several readers disapproved of the "real life" focus of Dazzler, including the focus on "soft plots" — career, family, relationships — rather than action-based and more traditional superhero plot devices. Dazzler's "superhero" outfit was her performance outfit, which also serves as a major disconnect from the superhero staples of the day. Years later, DeFalco reflected on these criticisms as an inherent hypocrisy with the readership: on one hand, readers clamored for something "new", which was how Dazzler was conceived. Yet on the other, they wanted Dazzler to be a superhero in the mold of Phoenix and conform to other superheroic stereotypes.

It sort of was and that actually caused problems for the book.

>>82503764
Christ, if Judge Blaire was any more of a square, he'd be a damn cube.

I am loving how these are also becoming watch JrJr grow up threads

>>82506068
Busiek didn't have any power or pull, he was either an intern or a low level employee. Bob Layton, John Byrne, and Roger Stern were the ones that brought the idea to Shooter

Apparently Shooter had a rule that she could only come back if anyone could think of a way to make her innocent

It's just what happens when fans turn pro

>>82508346
I don't think JRJR has any X work between Fatal Attractions and Avengers vs X-Men. So we'll have to enjoy him while we can

>>82505296
she already died once.

>>82508423

I saw him in a Daredevil documentary and he implied that he had a rough time on the X-books

>>82508618
Drawing team books is rough, Mcfarlane learned that on Infinity Inc. That's why he only did solo stuff like Spider-Man or Spawn.

>>82508487
>once

>>82504123
Oh lol

>>82509081
>>82509081
a-force

>>82510378
What?

>>82507924
Which is a shame, because I actually enjoy it for that.

>>82503623
>Alfredo Alcala
There must be some Filipino still living that we can get to ink (and therefore improve) Junior's art.

What's Dazzler up to nowadays? I'm only familiar with her most recent look from That one incase pic

Her design is so unrelentingly disco I don't understand why artists changed it so much.

>>82512944
Because it's unrelentingly disco?

>>82503855
ENCHANTRESS IS BAE

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>>82511975

Here's the original inked page. Alfredo Alcala was notorious for ignoring the pencils of the artists he inked over and just redrawing entire panels when he didn't like the penciled art that he was given to ink (by all accounts he was a very proud—and somewhat ornery— old man, and never hesitated to let younger artists know what he thought of their still-developing technique). Also, if I recall, he was one of the go-to guys back in the day when editors needed a book's art to be salvaged or "rescued" to beat a deadline.

I don't know if that's what happened here, but it's pretty telling that the art in this issue looks nothing like the kind of work John Romita .Jr. was producing at the time.

is that dazzler issue in which an EVIL Rogue is overpowered as fuck and beats the Avengers including Thor after absorbing his powers here? (my memory may not be exact)

Bump so I can read this later.
Thanks OP, just what I needed!

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>>82513335
That is an interesting bend in Dazzler's left leg.

>>82517235
My left, her right leg, of course.

badump

dazzling bump

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>>82508487
You're thinking of Disco. Because Disco is dead and not even the Phoenix can bring it back.
Come to think of it...
Given her career choice, just how did she avoid becoming yet another homeless Morlock?

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