Who's gonna be the villain?

>>82488150
Sony

>>82488150
If we're lucky Kraven

>>82488150
If we're lucky Tombstone and the Enforcers

The Shocker, Rhino, and DOKTOR OTTO OCTAVIUS!

>>82488150
If we're lucky Mysterio

>>82488228
This.

If we're extremely lucky he'll be played by Bruce Campbell.

>>82488150
If we're lucky Black Cat

>>82488252
>>Black Cat
>>Villain
PLEASE DON'T!!!

>>82488150
Tony Stark

>>Caring about a villain in an MCU film

Might as well be a Sharon Carter fan.

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>>82488150
I wonder if they're planning on rebooting Blade. This could be a segway into it.

>>82488150
If we're lucky The Spot

>>82488321
Muh plasma.

>>82488150
Carnage

Mysterio, Scorpion, Vulture are my picks. Though if they pull out Otto again I wouldnt mind

>>82488441
Not before Venom.

>>82488288
>doesn't want to see /ss/pider-man featuring Black Cat and Aunt May
What are you gay?

>>82488150
Shepherd's Glen Mayor I supose

>>82488245
And if we're excessively lucky they'll use actual old school effects

Norman Osbourne in the Iron Patriot armor.

>>82488321
>I wonder if they're planning on rebooting Blade.

I hope not. Snipes I think could do one more. But apart from him, Blade, like X-men, works better in his own universe.

>>82488150
>Who's gonna be the villain?

Hasn't it been largely implied that it's going to be Vulture?

I really hope they do something new with MCU Spider-Man instead of just re-doing everything from the previous movies. I want to see Black Cat, Man-Spider, Madame Web, clones, cosmic spider totems, etc.

Me

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All I want is Shocker to be in all the Spidey moves in at least a cameo or an action scene

Cant we just go straight for the Sinister Six?

>>82488172
That'd be great but I'd like to get Kraven in as a mentor to Spider-Man before he's a villain.

>>82488150
If I was Marvel, I'd seize the opportunity now that they have one of the greatest rogues galleries of all time at their disposal.

I'd go full Sinister Six.

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>>82488150
>yfw green goblin

>>82489368
What would be the problem? MCU desperately needs good villains and Osborn is fucking based

>>82489368
They have to include Osborne/Oscorp.

>>82488150
>implying anyone should care about the mcu's bland and disposable villains

>>82489368
They'll be saving Norman for a possible Dark Reign arc adaptation in phase 4.

>>82489368
>>82489402
>yfw Norman Osborn as Iron Patriot

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>It's called Homecoming because Spider-Man is finally coming home to Marvel from Sony


Fucking 10/10 meta riff at them.

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>>82489368
If they do, it's either him or nothing.

Shocker and with Kingpin from DD series and set up Venom with the space shuttle landing towards the 2nd act.

>>82489402
Agreed, but they should give goblins a rest for a while.

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>>82489368
>smugohan.png
>clearly Goku

Fucking pleb.

>>82489490
>Shocker and with Kingpin from DD series
Fucking hell, I'd kill for this.

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>>82489368

>>82488150
Think that's the final title?

I mean a good way to do a 3rd reboot Spider-Man movie with high school Pete is just have the plot be "Peter wants to take MJ to Homecoming."

I don't think we need another 'superhero movie' with Spider-Man. The best Spider-Man is when things just start to go right for Peter but being Spider-Man keeps him miserable. So having a Spider-Man plot simply be about Peter trying to do a normal high school thing with the Spider-Man action sequences being more of an annoyance to him is the right way to make this specific movie, given its status as the 3rd reboot.

>>82489558
He also isn't smug.

>>82489489
>wanting a cuntry bumpkin to play sophisticated Osborn
Fuck right off to the depths of hell.

It'll be Vulture, infuriated by seeing his tech used by Falcon and it being attributed to StarkTech.

>>82489582
Your ideas are so incredibly bad and I thank god you do not, nor will ever possess the talent to write for films. Fuck you, you're better off in hell with the rest of the nerds who think they know better.

>>82489598
Have you never heard of acting? You know Henry Cavill isn't actually American, right?

I don't think they're going to do Green Goblin so soon after ASM2, I don't think they're going to do a symbiote story so early and they're probably not going to start of with Lizard like ASM1 did.

I'm assuming they're going to want to start off with one of the more well known villains so by process of elimination I think Doc Ock has the best chance, Sony are obviously interested in doing a Sinister Six movie so they might want to introduce him early. Though what I'd really like would be Vulture, Scorpion, Shocker etc. Someone new who we haven't seen on the big screen. I want them to build up to the bigger villains rather than blowing their load and making him face off with his arch-nemesis in the first movie.

>>82489598
Accents, nigga.

Plus, that take on Osborn would be kind of alright, alright, alriiight.

Sentry

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>>82489129
There are better uses for Wesley Snipes now. Remember that once upon a time he was considered an aspiring ack-tor before he went full ego-driven action movie star on us.

>>82489490
>right after gotg2
>right before thor 3
There's enough space-theme in there for a symbiote to make its way to earth.

Regent

>>82489655
>>82489721

Name ONE fucking movie where he didnt have that sluggish acting accent. He. Cant. Act.

I want a Kraven and Lizard movie

Tony Stark.

Aunt May gets killed because Spidey registered.

>>82489830
Spidey never registered, he was never an Avenger to begin with.

Why do the Parkers live in a nice condo anyway? What happened to them living in a little neighborhood house in Queens?

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>>82488162

You didn't disappoint, /co/.

>>82489593
but is he smu?

>>82489942
Because nowadays those little neighborhoods are expensive as fuck

>>82489712
They'll probably introduce Osborn as Peter's best friend's dad who runs his own company, and hinting at shady shit going on behind the scenes of his company.

I'd love to see Shocker or Mysterio in a movie.

>>82489650
>I don't like what you posted
That's all you had to say if you weren't going to bother explaining why you didn't like what I posted or write your own take. Not that you have to write your own to hate my idea, but you could contribute something to the thread.

I just think with this being another new Spider-Man it might be nice to have a simpler main plot for Peter. AMS1+2 got bogged down with shitty relationship drama and thriller conspiracies about Peter's dad.

Having a movie with a simpler story would be more like the Rami movies. Spider-Man just wants to be with Mary Jane, buy a car to impress her, marry her, whatever but he's gotta keep being Spider-Man. So if the focus in the MCU is about how young he is then play that up and make his personal goals something simple like taking a girl to a dance.

Maybe you might think there's no villain in my idea or that because it's about teens and a school dance that it'd be a team drama movie, as in made for teens.

I mean most of what I said is the basic core of Peter Parker. He wants normal life things but he knows he has to be Spider-Man.

After the shit that was the Amazing movies, I want something more like Rami. Is that so weird?

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>>82489642
>Tooms invents the wings tech for US military, incredibly passionate about it
>Hand-picked soldiers testing his wings, because Tooms was too old and not fit enough to test them
>Sam Wilson considers him a creep. They don't get along
>Military scraps the program after one of the soldiers testing it dies from using it improperly
>Convinced if he was the one in the wings it would have worked fine.
>Years later sees footage of Falcon using his tech
>Becomes furious, decides he's owed his due. Dons the wings and terorrizes New York City in an attempt to get Falcon out of hiding to prove he's the superior user
>Ends up with a wise-cracking teenager in a Spider-Costume

>>yfw when Tooms is played by pic related

>>82489795
He can act just fine. Again, at the end of the day I don't see how his accent would be a problem.

>>82490030
*TOOMES

i dun goofed

>>82489489
I can dig it. He does insane just fine.

>>82490030
That would be fantastic

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>>82488162

>>82488150
Hopefully, Thumbnail related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXp8Th41rBs

Iron Man and the New Avengers.

>>82490006
>AMS1+2 got bogged down with shitty relationship drama
Those were my favorite parts of the films.

>>82489489
cage or defoe reprisal

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>>82490453
>AMS duology
>films
Is there something you want to tell me, anon?

>>82489795
he definitely can act, he just doesn't have a big range. Huge difference.

>>82488567
What are you a fuckin' faggot?

>>82490509
Not him, but since you're here Father, I have to confess, I always had an unreasonably strong distaste for how small this image makes you look.

>>82490509
>using autistic /tv/ terminology
Get the fuck out
movie and film are interchangeable words that mean motion picture, they do not inherently carry a mark of quality

>>82488150

White..men?

>>82489582
>It's MJ again
Motherfucker.

Really want to see a well done Mysterio. Always been one of my favorite villains and I always found it strange he has never been used.

Transitioning to Sinister Six would be based as fuck.

>>82488150
Uncle Tony.

>>82488150
Venom done well

>>82490656
Exactly, it should be Liz Allen

I'd like to see Peter face off agaisn't the mob villiains but I uderstand that that's probably not what Marvel is looking for at the moment, Mafia criminals would be cool for a solo movie but they don't pach quite the superhero punch that Marvel has people wanting to see. Whatever it is, it will most definitely lead up to Sinister Six or the symbiote saga. Clones, I don't see it. Too much build up and no one cares about the fucking Jackal.

>>82490770
I fucking love saucy blondes. I'm down for any of that shit.

>>82488150
The Punisher

>>82490030
I like it. You could even have him related to Oscorp in some fashion.

>>82490696
He needs build up. I'd rather wait to see him done right that get rushed in.

Mysterio or Scorpion would be pretty cool

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>>82489642
Thats a pretty good idea, they even mentioned Tony would be in the movie, really hope they do this now.

>>82490030
You could make Toomes somewhat sympathetic by playing up the age thing.

And if you use OsCorp like >>82490866 says, have him working with/stealing some age-transference device there.

>>82488150
no villain would be ok with me. maybe he could fight a crime spree or just be spiderman doing his thing. does there have to be a villian

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>>82488150
Even if not Homecoming, I have my fingers crossed so hard The Kingpin will be a villain.

I really really doubt it, but there's few things I'd want to see more in the MCU.

>>82491135
>superhero movie without a villain
Would be interesting to see.

>>82490030
>spidey is fighting vulture for the first time
>"look, hate to tell you this buddy, but i already fought a guy with wings and he was a lot cooler looking than you"
>cue vulture losing his mind, firing those razor sharp talons at spidey, catching him off-guard and beating on him while screaming about sam wilson

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>>82491168
can he even fight spiderman if he did he will get git ass beat

>>82490030
That sounds possible, actually. I've wanted to see Malkovich as the Vulture since they announced him back then.

>>82491168
THANK YOU WESLEY

>>82491231
You don't use Kingpin as a villain in a spider-man movie so he can get in a fist fight with Spider-Man, you do it so he can be a big mob-boss controlling all crime in New York.

>>82491168
Do you really think a guy who crushed someone's head by slamming a door into it is going to show up as the bad guy in a PG-13 movie?

>>82491190
why not, what I like about spiderman the most is he is a super hero of the people like dare devil if the movie was about him stopping bank robbery's and purse snatches that would be cool. in the spectacular spiderman cartoon the main villain created super villains to distract spiderman from the smaller crimes like bank robbery's

>>82491309
I don't think he will, but I also don't think it's ENTIRELY impossible, just super unlikely.

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>>82491231
Kingpin wouldn't fight Spider-Man with his fists.


He'd employ Justin Hammer to whip him up some super-powered goons.

>>82491330
People would complain that it isn't climactic enough if there's no big bad.

>>82491168
T-Thank you Wesley.

>>82488150
Some jackass in the Iron Spider armor that Tony wanted to give to Peter.

To defeat him, Peter must master his Spider-Sense.

That, or Mysterio. I hope it's Mysterio. All those illusions could seriously fuck with MCU Spider-Man's imperfect Spider-Sense

>>82490805
sounds like you want Kraven!

>>82491377
This would make the MCU actually feel like one big universe.

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If they do go with Vulture, I hope a lot with talons/razor feathers

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>>82490030
>Spidey: "If you were trying to do some sort of Falcon cosplay, you missed that mark by, like, fifty years. You look more like some vulture than a falcon."

pay me marvel.

Chameleon, Nothing worse in high school than someone else being you and ruining you're reputation.

He'll probably fight a lot of costumed super villians ala late 80's early 90's spiderman and maybe even have a few guest stars, like one of the avengers.
Have a bunch of big name celebs act as super powered petty crooks like the beetle, or hydro, or stiltman, or paste pot pete.

He'll probably end up fighting the RHYNO and taking out half of a city block before he takes him down. And he basically sacrifices himself to save his friends/mary jane/sexy ass miss tomei, before banner intervenes nad goes full hulk and they fight it out. Rhyno gets a lucky shot in and dazes the hulk who goes down for a second before he gores him with his horn.
Then spiderman flys in helps and decks him, hitting him square in the jaw, sendin him into a building and flying. He helps the unusually ludite hulk up who says "thanks kid" before going in to smash.
Spidey and hulk team up and win the day.

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This glorious motherfucker

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>There are people in this thread right now who dont see the untapped potential behind Scorpion
C'mon guys, hes a classic villain who needs more love.Lets get arachnid vs arachnid

>>82491500
3rd arc we find out Stark has been Chameleon through the whole movie

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>>82491456
>Hydra Iron-Man/Vulture Suit
>Would be the perfect excuse for Tony to be involved
This looks like a plan that's coming together.

What if it's about Peter trying to protect his hot Aunt May from old perverts like Tony Stark?

>>82491654
Fuck yeah, Scoprion needs more love desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBAL4N9Pj4k

>>82491754
>there villains are Doc Ock and Vulture who both want to fuck Aunt May

>>82488150
spider-island movie when?

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>>82491607
>FOOL! Do you not know what powers you are dealing with? Mysterio is a master of the arcane arts!
>Buddy I saw the fog machine when I crawled in here! You're one white tiger away from a Vegas show

>>82491814
>MCU Aunt May replaces traditional Gwen Stacy and Mary J roles

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>>82488150

Mysterio

>>82491873
>Doc Ock wants to fuck May but doesn't know she's already /ss/ing with her nephew

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>>82491811
My man! Its also a good way to tie JJJ too. Plus I love how this guy, who is enhanced both by genetics and cybernetics, is still a low brow thug who holds up laundromats

>Sergei Kravinoff is a Sokovian hunter and explorer who's past his physical prime and knows it
>while exploring, he stumbles across that pool that Thor had his vision in during AoU
>he dips into it and it fills his body with new strength
>due to being rich enough to know the actual story behind what happened with Ultron, he's aware that it's largely Tony's fault
>decides that the best way to hurt Tony with his newfound strength is to go after his new pet project, Spider-Man

>>82491924
>Doc Cuck

> Hey Mr Stark, didn't know you were here
> No boy, call me Uncle Tony
Wtf

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>>82491939
forgot pic

>>82491925
That's one of my favorite things about Spider-Man's villains. All of them are powers powerful as shit but since Spidey keeps them in check, they're just low brow thugs.

I want Morlun, but too soon to happen maybe in 3 or 4(let's face it they're gonna milk Spiderman like Transformer that's why the actor is so young) so when Peter is in college he fights Morlun and after beating him we get the scene where Aunt May finds out the truth.
Morlun would bring a new dynamic to Spiderman never seen before, opening up spots for new characters like Ezekiel that are cool as shit

>>82491951
Aunt May's gonna get the iron dick.

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>>82491939
Not sure I like that tie in. Frankly Im fine with Kraven just there to hunt Peter but Id be ok with a connection to Wakanda

>>82491873
So...the first damsel in Spiderman is going to be his hot ass Aunt May?
Okay.
So who's going to be the guy who kidnapps her? This has to be played in the right way.

The mothers and female guardians of kids and teens are going to taking them to see this. the kidnapper has to get their panties moist but not be super evil and turn them off.

>>82492005
Has Kraven ever gone up against T'Challa?

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>>82491956
>Liam Neeson as Kraven
It feels simultaneously completely wrong and absolutely right. I think he might make a better Taskmaster, though.

>>82491859
I like that design and I like that greentext.

>>82492024
Who has the rights to Taskmaster?

>>82492024
I really wanna see taskmaster in the mcu at some stage, he would fit really well as he's pretty easy to militarize because we all know marvel loves to do that
>>82492036
Marvel Studios, I'm pretty sure

>>82492036
Marvel got them recently actually

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>>82492051
Frankly I see Taskmaster popping up on a Netflix program before a movie

>>82492014
Bunch of times. T'challa has lost more times then he's won.
Kraven is a monster. He's probably the top unenhanced nonmagical human in marvel barring shi chi...and I just read that he had a lot of alchemy magic applied to him.

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>>82488150
B-but, who's gonna be JJ? I mean, Perfect JJ is already Gordon on Batfleck movie

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>>82492100
I wanna read more Kraven, where?

Why are villian ongoings aren't a thing anymore?

>>82492102
Terry Crews

>>82492100
I thought Kraven took drugs?
>>82492102
Al Pacino

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>>82492024

here's another option.

>>82492102
John C. McGinley

>>82492099
That would be great, considering how well they did punisher.

>>82492121
WHAT

>>82492099
Maybe he could show up on Moon Knight.

>>82492144
>>82492121
hmmm

>>82492142
YEEEEEESSS

>>82492144
This, ever seen him in any given sunday?

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>>82492206
shit forgot pic

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>>82492024
>>82492142
What about him?

>>82492224
>angry man that shouts
Sounds about right. Who would play John Jameson though?

>>82492243
Bane?

>>82491875
if only

>>82492202
Is that happening? I also need to read up on him

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>>82492249
>John Jameson

>>82492281
rumored only, far as i know.

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>>82492102
>Perfect JJ is gone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oasqjPHpxyI
Granted, he doesn't look like JJJ, but he's enetering the age group Simmons was in when he played the role, and with the right script and makeup artists?
Would be an interesting throwback.

>>82492301
Well chances are he'll guest star on Iron Fist or something to gauge public interest. Hell thats how Frank got a show

>>82492281
Doubtful, they killed Frenchie in DD

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>>82492102
Well, there is one guy I could think of from the original Spider-Man movies who could be fun.

>Venom is an offshoot/byproduct of Extremis

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>>82492102
Ice Cube

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>>82492362
nigga what

>>82489980
Uncle Ben's Money?

>>82491494
Sent

>>82491951
>>82491999
Tony's desperate enough to Bojack his relationship with Peter like that.

>>82491951
>yfw the new creator of the "With Great Power, must always come, Great Responsibility!" quote is Tony freaking Stark.

>>82492612
Well, it would make more sense that uncle Ben, who also doesn't exist in this film. Also, why did they cut him out?

>>82492717
>Why is there no Uncle Ben?
Probably because they're trying to steer as clear of yet another Spider-Man origin story as possible.
They'll probably mention him, but involving him directly would mean you have to address the origins beyond maybe a fancy opening title summary of him getting bit and putting on the mask, like they did with Spider-Man 2 or Spider-Man 3. Not sure which.

>>82488150
Ironmanlet.

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>>82492102

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I can dream damnit

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>>82488150

I was thinking.
Didn't Falcon use to have a partner that flew with him on missions?
Maybe he could be Vulture, that comes back "from the death" (brainwashed or payed) and it's up to Peter to take him down.
That way, you could get Sam to make a cameo connecting it to the MCU and you could explain the tech.
They could give it color and give the guy an armor-like costume, or something like that.

>>82489942
Nice condo? It looked like an apartment block to me, like shitty buldings. Besides, it was a really small place.

>>82493408
>That way, you could get Sam to make a cameo connecting it to the MCU and you could explain the tech.
Didn't you hear?
Tony Stark (With RDJ of course) is going to be in the movie.
It's plenty connected already.

>>82489279
Similar to the ASM2 video game story line?

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>>82490495
>Wanting Nic Cage near any of this
>Wanting Nic Cage at all

>>82493463
>Peter shows up to work
>Nic Cage delivering the "Where are those Pictures of Spider-Man?!" spiel
It has no business being filmed, but it would be glorious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN88tGvlwcU

>>82493242
Odenkirk would crush it. So would Gary Cole.

>>82493449
Damn, I don't like the way they push Iron Man, I mean, he's likable and all, but I don't like the way they're just pushing him everywhere.
Personally I think a Falcon cameo would be better.

On another note, I would just love them to adapt Ultimate Spider-man to the big screen, that would be glorious.

>>82489490
I came a little bit just a little

>>82488150
>The Punisher

>>82491168
THANK YOU WESLEY

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ALL OF YOUR ANSWERS ARE WRONG AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD

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>>82493812

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hopefully venom

>>82493812
>Implying
>>82490352

>>82488150
>the 'homecoming' is JJJ Jr coming back from space
>villain is Man-Wolf

>>82492345
It wasn't Frenchie

>>82488150
Dan Slott

>>82489402
>Norman is based
Wouldn't be the first time the MCU have screwed a good villain up...

>>82489466
>Coming home to the company that have consistently published shit Spider-Man books for nearly 10 years

>>82489830
>Aunt May gets killed because Spidey registered
Horrible

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XezPZ-ln4w
Elsa

If we're lucky Hobgoblin. I always liked him more than Green Goblin.

>>82488977
>He doesn't know

>>82488150
Joe Quesada

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Think about a character that is both a Spider-Man and Iron Man villain.

>>82488150
Is it to much to ask for the Vulture?

They set it up PERFECTLY with Falcon.

It just goes

>Toomes creates flight wings
>Oscorp fires him to retain patent
>Sells to military for Falcon project
>Toomes goes on campaign of revenge

>>82494796
Not gonna happen. He debuted as a Human Torch villain in Strange Tales. So unles someone had the foresight back in the day to specifically exclude him from the FF rights and include them in the Spider-Man rights (unlikely since he was so obscure back in the 90s), Fox has him.

>>82494922
I doubt it, Anon. Outside of comic books, he's almost exclusively been a Spider-Man villain.

>>82494987
Doesn't matter. Kang the Conqueror is seen as an Avengers villain and look what happened.
What matters is where the character debuted, unless they're characters popular enough to be specifically requested or associated with other characters. Beetle was a D-List villain back in the 90s, so odds are nobody thought about him when making these contracts.

>>82491456
>>82491494
it will be the vulture or mysterio

mark my words

>>82494922
Considering that Beetle isn't getting hit with the FF character embargo outside comics, I think he can be used.

>>82495394
Kang the Conqueror isn't being hit by the embargo either (he's in the Contest of Champions videogame and the Avengers Assemble cartoon)

>>82491168
I got immunity cat protecting me :^)

>>82488150
Puberty

>>82489942
It looked like a bordeline crack house... pretty much the apartment Peter liven in before Mary Jane paid the bills

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What's the reasoning that the Avengers doesn't completely BTFO the villain as soon as he appears considering their HQ is also in New York?

>>82495419
CoC contract predates the embargo.

>>82488150
The good old Parker's Luck.

>>82495036
Yeah, but look at Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch. Their debut and their association conflict somewhat, so the Beetle could fall into that arena also.

More importantly: who's going to be the love interest? Gwen Stacy (again), MJ (again), Chat?

>>82495590
The Avengers are dead. Buried.

I want these Vulture ideas to happen, while hearing about crimes going on that seem completely unrelated, then at the very end of the movie after the big battle with Vulture, it all comes together in some kind of Usual Suspects, Kevin Spacey type way, and you find of the Chameleon was using the Vulture distracting Spider-Man to his advantage.

And then when he's walking away in the 'he got away with it' moment, Spidey just swings down and kicks him in the face and reveals he's a fucking smart guy that figured it out while focusing on other things.

>>82488150
Vulture

>>82495650
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were popular characters, so it makes sense that they would think about them when making the contracts.
Beetle was a D-Lister back in the 90s, so it's doubtful anyone would think about him.

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The Vulture would be really neat.

Plus he's the first super vilain Spidey had to fight one on one in the comics.

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>>82495654
Betty Brant

>>82495718
Oh yes this is exactly what Marvel needs, another evil bald inventor.

>>82495852
Nigger, every single Spiderman enemy is either a symbiote or a scientist who goes crazy over his invention/discovery.

>>82489795
>accents
>only measure of acting

wow you don't know anything

>>82495866
>Shocker
>Scorpion
>Kraven
>Rhino
>Sandman
>Electro
>Beetle
>Hydroman
>Kingpin
>Mysterio
>All those one shot villains around that Morlun run with the wasp lady and Hulk ripoff, etc

I could name more, but I have a feeling there's more enemies that aren't symbionts or mad scientists than are.

>>82489598
Actually I think having Norman as a "good ole boy" really works for his character. He's always trying to come off as simple and disarming, telling charming southern anecdotes, just like an average guy who just happens to be good at business. In public appearances at least. As soon as he's in private or speaking to employees he comes off as an egomaniacal domineering lunatic.

>>82490030
I want Malkovich as Vulture so fucking badly. When the rumors of Keaton playing Vulture came out I was partially excited because Keaton is great, but more disappointed because it wasn't Malkovich.

>>82495949
I want it to be Malkovich as Vulture, gets humiliated by Spidey, then starts mixing science with magic, goes after a tablet (that Spider-Man The Animated Series episode with Tombstone), starts sapping youth from other teens (maybe killing them), gaining superpowers of his own and getting youthful. Would be played by me, seriously I imagined this scenario all the time when I heard the Vulture rumors.

>>82488150
I just hope they don't try and go down the OSCORP CREATES ALL VILLAINS route again, it was dumb

>>82491500
The problem is that Chameleon never poses a physical threat to Spider-Man, he always gets easily defeated as soon as he's found out. He'd be a pretty underwhelming villain.
Mysterio is objectively better than Chameleon in every way, he can do everything the Chameleon can only on a much grander scale, and has devices and tech that make him be able to fight and challenge Spider-Man on several levels.

>>82488150
I'd go for multiple villains.

The last few times that didn't go so well, I know, but the issue is that Spider-Man 3 tried to give all of it's villains story arcs and ASM 2 was too focused on setting up stuff further down the line.

Instead, just have some of the villains be bank-robbers or henchmen with super-powers/high-tech stuff helping the main villain.

Like, you could just have a scene establishing that Pete is doing his thing in New York by having him stop the Shocker in a bank robbery. Shocker doesn't need set-up, he's just a guy with some weird gloves and a kooky suit who robs banks for a living.

Even someone like Chameleon or Sandman don't need that much set-up.

Then, you centre it around a villain who has a personal conflict with Spidey, and you're golden.

>>82496066
this. not every villain needs a fucking origin story!

>>82492100
Kraven has superhuman strength (2 tons) and enhanced senses thanks to magical chemicals and crap, as well as increased longevity, he was born into Russian aristocracy so he must be in his 90s or something.

if we don't get kingpin, couldn't tombstone work well?

I've just had a realisation about how Venom's gonna happen.

Infinity War is probably gonna see Spidey going to space to fight Thanos.

I wouldn't be surprised if they actually have the machine from Secret Wars spit the symbiote out.

>>82496048
>>82495710

>>82496126
Nah, Tombstone doesn't have the same gravitas and isn't as iconic, and a scary albino black man isn't believable as a respected businessman no matter what the Spectacular Spider-Man tried to tell you.

>>82496162
Why's they gotta be putting makeup on all our best black actors?
They tryin ta tell us this white Uncle Tombstone a black man?
Shiiiiieeeeet.

Oh shit, Infinity War might just be Secret Wars, but with Thanos instead of the Beyonder.

>>82491168
THANK YOU WESLEY

>>82489368
They already confirmed it would be a villain who hadn't been in movies before

>>82496179
Holy shit that's cray. There will prolly be enough heroes and villains by then. Plus Thanos could use the gauntlet to resurrect all the dead villains so we get Quiptron, Killian, Malekith, Stane, Whiplash all returning. That'd be cool.

>>82495827
I think that's unlikely, especially for teen peter

they might do something like in the Spectacular cartoon though "I know it's weird I'm in my mid teens and you're mid twenties, but wanna go to prom with me?"

>>82491494
>did you just throw a ginormous frisbee at me? the fuck... i'm supposed to be a spider, not a dog

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>>82495827
If they want to pretend to be progressive to gain more of the tumblr crowd without making him gay or some shit, they should just do what we all want.

>Bitches love Spider-Man harem

>>82496102
Without an origin story, people will say that the villain is "underdeveloped". C'mon, you know this.

>>82493242
Fuck yeah that'd be perfect

>>82492102
Hugh Laurie

>>82496134
I could easoly see the Symbiote being a stinger after IW

>>82496567
Then don't advertise them as the main villain.

Who the hell expects 'Shocker' to be developed? If there's a scene of Spider-Man stopping a bank robber in a film, people don't expect development for that character.

Why should he get development just because he's wearing a kooky costume and has sonic blaster gloves?

>>82490030

As much as I love Malkovich for the Vulture, and I seriously fucking do (brother's got chops man), I'd like to see him play Chameleon.

With Malkovich's charisma, it is very easy to see him playing any and every villain for the new Spider-Man franchise (with very little stretching of the imagination necessary), but for once I'd like Marvel to rock fanboy faces by having Holland's Spider-Man face the first original villain of Amazing Spider-Man.

So many people think the first villain Spidey ever faced was the Green Goblin. I'd like to see Osborn pushed back for a few films.

Holding back on Osborn would give Marvel Studios time to develop Osborn better. As much as I like the Goblin/Goblin tech, I'd like to see the Ultimate Goblin version... mutated and hurling fireballs. Considering this takes place in the MCU universe now, it could be explained that Thunderbolt Ross hired Stormin' Norman to pick back up the Super Soldier project using samples of Hulk/Banner's blood on ice from the attack on New York.

But I seriously digressed (like heeeyyyy tangent, come on back to earth).... Malkovich for Chameleon. He was trying to steal tech (maybe for Toomes, maybe for Silvermane) and he gets foiled by Spidey... whom he attempts to oust in an embarrassingly short lived effort to discover his secret ID to blackmail.

Chameleon's defeat leaves room for a mid-credit call from prison to his brother, Kraven the Hunter, with word of a new target to hunt.

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>>82488150

I'm dying for a Mysterio movie that serves as a satire of the Superhero movie genre, with trippy visuals and Quentin Beck played by Amy Pascal.

>>82496760

They need to play up Shocker like his Ultimate Comics counterpart. He's got some tech, could be really dangerous, but he's just a constant embarrassment thanks to always getting caught by Spidey.

In fact, a movie about some stolen shield tech (by Chameleon) would be great for setting the grounds for the Enforcers, Silvermane, and the Vulture.

Meanwhile, Oscorp starts on the legit route with their Shield defense contracts (with overseers Osborn and Octavius ONLY cameo or namedrop non-villain references). Hell, maybe Oscorp actually helps out at first. No reason the company has to be evil, despite it's CEO being completely corruptible.

>>82488150
allegedly Venom could fall off the movie rights wagon soon so I could see them panic rush him in to keep the rights.

>>82489650
YFW you realize Marvel already said the template for this film are classic John Hughes films like Pretty in Pink and Sixteen Candles.

Sucks to be you, but stay salty, my friend.

>>82488150
Morlun.
It's a Spider-Verse tie-in.
Spidey dies.

>>82497507
ok Snyder

>>82496960
Which artist is that?

>>82498052
Marcos Martin, I think

>>82489727
>There are better uses for Wesley Snipes now.

Agreed. The best way: not at all.

No one needs that racist dipshit in any movie.

>>82491309
You realize they could, you know, just NOT show him crushing people's heads 'n such, right?

>>82493242
Probably my number one. Less shouty and cranky JJJ, and more sarcastic asshole JJJ

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>>82488162

>>82488228
God this is all I want for Christmas

It will be Scorpion.

He fits with the MCU tendency to have villains that are similar to the hero in terms of ability/tech.

>>82490030
Falcon cameo pls

>>82491168
THANK YOU WESLEY

>>82491875
I love the idea of Mysterio existing in a New York that just recently finished up with having Doc Strange in it. Him capitalizing on that to fool people

>>82498703
But nobody cares about Scorpion.
And the MCU needs to stop that tendency anyway. George RR Martin is right.
Vulture or Mysterio would be perfect ways of showcasing new challenges for Spider-Man.

>>82488150
Villains.

At least 3 villains at once.

>>82488150
A. Anti spider-man
B. Evil businessman
C. Alien and his evil army
D. All of the above

>>82498878
>George RR Martin is right.
?

>>82488162
FPBP

>>82496989
SHIELD doesn't exist anymore.

>>82499175
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-of-thrones/11764917/George-RR-Martin-tired-of-Marvel-villains.html

>"I am tired of this Marvel movie trope where the bad guy has the same powers as the hero. The Hulk fought the Abomination, who is just a bad Hulk. Spider-Man fights Venom, who is just a bad Spider-Man. Iron Man fights Ironmonger, a bad Iron Man. Yawn. I want more films where the hero and the villain have wildly different powers. That makes the action much more interesting."

>>82499239

The writers of Civil War adress this

>On the criticism of Marvel villains not being particularly fleshed out or as engaging as they could be

>SM: If you think about it, I get the criticism, but the early phases were all origin stories. It tends to create a similar villain. When it is no longer an origin story, I think you might have a little bit more freedom to create different villains. I’m sensitive to the problem. I get it. But it wasn’t the Robert Redford story, it was CAPTAIN AMERICA: WINTER SOLDIER. It wasn’t the Red Skull’s journey, it was the journey of one guy going from ninety pound weakling to American hero and then going into the ice. So in a 120-minute movie it is difficult, and Thanos will possibly change that, but you want time spent. Excuse me for going on a tangent but I love the Marvel Netflix shows because you have so much more time to spend with your villains. It’s literally minutes and hours spent. We have 120-minutes and Jessica Jones had how ever many it had.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusivecivil-war-screenwriters-talk-thanos-the-marvel-villain-problem-148

>>82499286
>>82499239
Man, I wish they made a new Hulk film that included the Leader and She-Hulk.

>>82491168
THANK YOU WESLEY

>>82499239
You mean like Spider-Man and Sandman, who were in that very same movie you were talking about?

>Glider, bombs, gass, guns, etc, vs Spider-Man
>Man creating a city destroying magnet, and has huge metal octopus arms, vs Spider-Man
>Sandman, guy that can alter his shape and density and is made out of fucking sand, vs Spider-Man

Get this fucker out of here.

>>82498703
Actually I can see that happening.
>JJJ puts a price on Spidey's secret identity
>Mercs come out of the woodworks to rake in the Bugle money, chance to cameo some recurring/throwaway villains like The Enforcers, Shocker, Paste Pot Pete in a montage
>Mac Gargan is selected to test the Scorpion suit designed by Smythe industries as a proto-Spider Slayer
>Something goes wrong, he goes insane, "this is all JJJ's fault" yadda yadda, Spider-Man is now forced to save JJJ's ass from Scorpion
>Post credit teaser is Norman Osborn using Smythe industries' fall from grace after the Scorpion incident as a mean to pull an hostile takeover and add all their research and tech to his own and keep an obviously disgruntled Spencer Smythe as his lackey/second in command

guys listen
guys
what about
guys listen, what if

There is no villain?

>>82499236
Dude, stop.

The development of the second string supervillians should be left to supplemental material and maybe eps of the shield television show and even option it for future eps of the movies.

Having each and every one of his interesting costumed villians be the centerpiece of the movie is going to kill it.
Just have a lot of cool looking supervillians with cool looking powers show up HAM IT UP and have spiderman throw some quips around and have him win.
Would love to see some random well known actors show up to play a throwaway villian in a spiderman movie.

The only origin I want to see is the bullshit origin of Slyde.
How he wears his suit and robs banks because his parents were gunned down by the hulk and captain america.
Then spidey says "dude, you're full of it Your parents are still alive." He then says something about how they were scientists that were working on his slyde suit and that they were killed by tony stark for so he can have their invention, then spidey would say "Your mom is a homemaker and your dad works at a flowershop in jersey. Why you gotta lie dude?"

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>>82496444
>I think that's unlikely, especially for teen peter
You just out'd yourself as a colossal casual.

Betty is the very first chick Peter dates in Amazing Spider-Man.

>>82499693
The crazy thing is, I could see this work.

Seriously, a Spider-Man movie that is genuinely just about Peter trying to keep up with his normal life while petty crime is going down left and right and he's driven to help people, even at his own expense? Would be pretty cool.
Sure, they should involve a villain to some degree, but it would be plenty if it was like a Kingpin cameo, or someone else who he doesn't actually meet but is somehow responsible for some of the crimes he's stopping, and will come back to be a more direct villain once Peter Parker was properly set up.

Doubt it's going to happen though.

>>82501520
>shows Peter's day-to-day life
>shutting down petty criminals
>all the petty villains are played by Stan Lee.

>>82493344
But Kingpin's already in Daredevil

>>82501744
Nah just Silvermane.

>>82501780
And he's not right for spiderman. He's a low street level kind of character and bringing spiderman into that has never worked well.
Keep his villians big colorful costumed walking SFX pinatas.

>>82493242
Hadn't thought of this, now I'm all for it.

My other choice was actually Bryan Cranston.

>>82501857
I think Bryan Cranston would be a better Osborn

>>82501520
Chameleon then?

>>82501857
>>82502111
Speaking of casting who would make a good Eddie Brock? Marvel has been kind of monopolizing all the big buff blonde dudes so I'm having trouble thinking of another.

>>82491168
We've already had him in TASM2.

>>82499106
>Venom is the leader of a race of symbiotes who bonds with a businessman (who was close to Tony in the past) after Peter and after a first confrontation ushers an invasion of symbiotes
kek

>>82504471
Furthermore
>Spider-man takes on Venom while Iron Man one shots the other symbiotes in an anti-climatic final battle

>>82495590
Spidey's on the case already.

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>>82504722
Go home. It is time for a feast.

>>82495756
Did you forget about the Thunderbolts? Or are you assuming that Mach-I and Beetle would count as different characters?

>>82504722
>South African Kraven
Why?

>>82495590
The fact that the Avengers are gone by the end of CW.
Plus, Iron Man is going to appear.

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>>82488150
The guy who voiced Colossus really wanted to play him.

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>>82506981
And this is what he looks like

>>82507017
Easily doable
I think Kraven should be the main villain of two movies though
1st villain of this trilogy, then assuming Peter is still alive. do kravens last hunt for the fourth film.
In the middle two movies introduce 5 small time villains for a Superior Foes netflix series.

>>82508044
MCU Zemo really needs a Fixer.

>>82507017
I'd buy it for sure.

>>82501824
>low street level kind of character and bringing spiderman into that has never worked well
What the fuck are you talking about? Spider-Man has always been best as a street-level hero. His whole appeal is that he's just a relateable regular guy doing his best to stop people from hurting each other.

Vulture
Chameleon
Rhino

Chameleon will be the set up to the next movie with a reveal at the end.

>>82491168
THANK YOU WESLEY

>>82491168
They just had Rhino in the last movie.

>>82508955

And Rhino would Have his entire 5 second cameo be featured in the commercials

Doctor Octopus
Carnage

Carnage doctor octopus

That boxoffice money

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>>82511767
Yeeeeeeeeeessss

>>82494119
>it's true
f u c k
u
c
k
you'd think in the pool of people wanting to write spidey there'd be some modicum of talent

>>82499106
>Anti Spider Man
So yeah Scorpion

We should have two villains since Spidey won't have an origin story and thus won't take up half the movie learning to deal with his new found powers and what not.

We could have sinister six if they just push all the past spidey villains into a new sinister six team.

william dafoe

>ARE YOU IN OR OUT SPIDER MAN

>>82511898
The Spider-Man and the X-Men mini by Elliott Kalan last year was the best he's been written in a long, long time. Try it out if you haven't read it. It's where the Sauron "I don't want to cure cancer. I want to turn people into dinosaurs." panel came from.

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>>82499408
im good with this

This font

Really, what garbage is this?

>>82491168
THANK YOU WESLEY

>>82494138
but it happened

>>82488441
too soon for Carnage

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Scorpion would make for weird wall crawling fighting.

>>82513202
I could see it happening though.
Doesn't Sony want to made a standalone Venom movie? This would be a good jumping point.

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>>82488162

>>82491168
YOU EMBARRASSED ME IN FRONT OF HER

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>>82488228
Third this Mysterio deserves to be in a spiderman movie already he would be perfect. Also Scorpion should be too but with a more advanced version of his suit because his normal one would be too cheese

>>82492397
I SAID I WANTED PICTURES OF SPIDER MAN, YOU STUPID ASS MOTHERFUCKER.

>>82514980
Mysterio should actually be in a Spider-Man comic first.

>>82489129
the fuck how?

he doesnt have any lore or ties and is buddy with Spidey

just him and vampires

>>82492142
I WILL SNATCH EVERY WALLCRAWLER BIRTHDAY