Princess and the Frog

forgettable

>>82453912
Love me some jazz and some delicious brown

>>82453912
the last 2d film from hollywood. not the best note to go out on, but by no means a bad one.

We shall remember you, theatrical American hand drawn animation. we shall remember.

I GOT VOODOO
I GOT WHO-DO
I GOT THINGS I AIN'T EVEN TRIED
AND I GOT FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE

>>82454021
ARE YOU READY

>>82453912
It was okay.

Tiana is my favorite princess.

It was alright, nothing special

It was beautifully animated and it had a great villain, but it the rest of the movie was bland and forgettable. It felt like Disney was so afraid of offending anyone that they just played it safe and ended up with a mediocre movie with really awesome artwork.

>>82454444
It's nice that blacks got their own Disney Princess though.

>>82454547
Yeah, we're all really relieved.

>>82453994
I thought the last one was Winnie the Pooh? Nonetheless I love this movie. It's not the best Disney movie, but is definitely one of my 10 favorites.

>>82453912
I thoroughly enjoyed it. It could slide comfortably into the Disney Renaissance without feeling out-of-place at all.

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It's cute.

There's a cute frog in it who makes some good reaction faces.

Great villain but otherwise forgettable and way too fucking long.

>>82455361
>way too fucking long.
It's only an hour and a half.

>>82453912
a clusterfuck of themes. looked good though

Tiana is best Princess.
Music was good too.

Tiana is cute.

WHY THE FUCK DID THEY SPEND THE WHOLE MOVIE AS FROGS IN A SWAMP

>>82454444
>It felt like Disney was so afraid of offending anyone that they just played it safe and ended up with a mediocre movie

Tiana herself was a pretty bland character. The prince was pretty good. I also think they should have kept the Alligator's original story, which involved him also being someone who was turned into an animal by Dr. Facilier. Being an alligator that just wanted to be a jazz musician seemed... weird.

Real good songs, nice animation and setting, cool villain, somewhat forgettable otherwise.

Oh, good moral too.
>Work hard to achieve your dreams
>But don't let work control your life and make you miserable
>Find a nice balance

>>82456985
Frogs are easier to animate than humans and kids love animals

Dr. Facilier is one of the coolest Disney villains

PatF is one of those films where I like it for what it could have been. It could have been glorious but instead it's a 7/10. I do love the characters, but I wish they hadn't spent the majority of the time as frogs. I love the setting and wish they'd spent more time in New Orleans. They played things very safe and it shows. It would be nice if they did more with it. With tweaks, I do think that PatF could make an excellent stage show, and I wouldn't mind if they did a live action version, since literally every other property is getting one eventually. Fuck, make it about Facilier growing up as mixed creole kid in the south and learning voodoo from his mama, since a lot of the LA films are villain focused

>>82456985
They didn't want niggers to be butthurt about accurate portrayal of New Orleans like they were already butthurt about Tiana previously being a chambermaid named Maddy because DAS RACIS.

>>82458010

Making her a Chambermaid named Maddie wouldn't have improved the movie, because then she just would have been a bland and humorless (but not in a funny way) downtrodden character like Cinderlla was.

>>82458010
Since when have blacks tried to ignore their own plight?

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Tiana/Lottie is my OTP and yet there's like no art of it.

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>that /ss/ at the end tho

>>82459189
Lottie was the best. I loved how animated she was.

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>>82459358

>>82459230
The purest form of love

>>82459230
When do you think she'll start hitting that?

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I liked her concept art better.

>>82453912
Big issue is that while it was a great callback to the classic Disney 2D films like Aladdin, it didn't try to really do anything new.

Why not try to make it look more like a painting? Or use some sweet at filters? It didn't really bring anything technologically new to the table.

>>82460974
Wow, that'd make her more cartoony than Mulan.

>>82460993
>Why not try to make it look more like a painting? Or use some sweet at filters? It didn't really bring anything technologically new to the table.
You make it sound like that's a necessity, that a movie can't be great without it. I don't think that's the case.

>>82461052
It can be great without it. But it's doubtful that it will sell without.

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Animation is great, music is great, story and characters are great. It does get a bit slow in the middle, and it would be nice if the movie took a few more risks, but the movie is strong enough to overcome these problems.

People didn't watch it because the popular mindset was still aligned against Disney because of stuff like Home on the Range (Bolt was okay but had Miley Cyrus in it so people didn't watch it), and also because of muh racism / muh 2D animation.

Honestly? I like it better than anything Disney has put out since. I really love this movie.

>>82460974
A fair opinion, because this movie has a lot of great concept art, but how often do Disney characters look like their concept art?

As usual, I hated the goofy and irrelevant side character.

>>82453912
It wasn't anything spectacular, but it didn't deserve the negative backlash it received. 6/10 imo.

>>82458010
Actually, one of the biggest problems blacks had with this movie was that it was an interracial couple. And Naveen wasn't Caucasian. To be quite fair, that was the most progressive thing about this movie.

>you stupid honkie only whites can be racist

Apparently not.

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>>82460993
>Why not try to make it look more like a painting? Or use some sweet at filters?
because at the same time, they already were trying to get rapunzel/tangled to do that exact thing and it was making them tear every hair from their skull

It's alright. The visuals are nice, Tiana's cute, nice villain.
Randy Newman's hackjob isn't awful, but they really could have done better.
Plot was pretty uninteresting and most of the secondary characters sucked.

The Rescuers is the supperior Lousiana-set Disney 2D cartoon.

Cute but dull and far too safe.
I actually would have loved if Tianna was descended from a voodoo priestess and had to help the frog break the curse so he could marry..uh...blanche devaro and defeat falcier but he falls for her in the end.

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>>82453994
Does a movie produced by Salma Hayek, directed by the Lion King director, and starring Hayek and Liam Neesom count?

>>82458673
Since we're talking about escapist media, which Disney princess movies definitely are.

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>>82461599
>The Rescuers is the supperior Lousiana-set Disney 2D cartoon.
>Geysers in bayous
>Bayou drag queen bimbo and her fat lard lover
>Gators who find mice to be suitable meals
>Pirates lair
Nah, that's Florida. We have the cool swamps and awesome parties. Floridas got all the weirdos.

>>82461810
It takes place mostly on a riverboat in a bayou.
The villains are from New York anyway.

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>>82461898
IT IS FLORIDA FUCK THOSE FLORIDIANS THE RERELEASE TRAILER EVEN MENTIONS THE FLORIDA EVERGLADES

>>82461748
Since when was avoiding race relations in children's cartoons "escapism"? Children aren't trying to escape anything.

>>82460919
Later that night

>>82461992
Seems kind of pointless to have sex with a prepubescent. What is she going to do? Just rub herself on his leg until she gets off? She can't stimulate him.

>>82461952
And the film identifies Devil's Bayou as being in Louisiana

>>82461988
Kids watch princess movies because they'd prefer to be princesses than normal girls, like boys watch cape cartoons because they'd want to be heroes. That's escapism anon.
Although I guess the "rags-to-riches" part is important to some of those stories, I'm not surprised people didn't want the rags part to reference slavery. That's not what they came to the movies for.

>>82462098
That has nothing to do with race relations. Avoiding that topic is sugar coating reality such that kids don't get jaded. THAT isn't escapism.

>>82462050
I don't remember a specific locale being mentioned

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>movie with primarily black cast set in the US south in the 20s almost completely shies away from directly mentions race
>movie about animal cops has full out race war and openly discusses prejudice and racism in multiple ways
I do like Princess and the Frog. I just wish they hadn't played it so safe. But it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.

>>82453961
>Not frogettable

>>82462150
But it is, you retard.
PotF doesn't reference slavery like Hercules doesn't reference slavery despite it being common practice in Greece back then, or like Aladdin doesn't reference the female condition in medieval Islam despite Aladdin being explicitely muslim (and Chinese) in the source material, or like the Dragons franchise doesn't show vikings raping Anglo-Saxon women.
Because they're escapist movies featuring magic bullshit all around, not educational or in any way accurate ones.

>>82462226
It's almost like analogies are the best way to deal with touchy topics, especially in cartoon movies aimed at 8 year olds.
But nah, I guess let's have a nigger get lynched in PotF, the kids would love that because it's historically accurate.

>>82462310
>you retard
wew

>not showing murder in children's cartoons is escapism
I really don't think it is. Same end result, different reasons.

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>we'll probably never get another black princess
I want an Aida movie, goddamnit

>>82459358
Lottie is a hotttie

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She only got her restaurant at the end because her big lipped gator intimidated those poor guys. She only won through crime!

>>82462463
Yeah, but to be fair, she was probably willing to sign then and there before the ball. They had a verbal contract that they went back on because they got a better offer due to their laziness... at least that's the best rationalization I could come up.

>>82462373
Alright, explain what you think it is.

>>82462425
Pic looks great... Source/Source material?

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>>82462520
http://jovaline.tumblr.com/post/130710016689/i-just-received-my-copies-of-the-hrhzine-in-the

Artist does the School Spirit sections of the Fresh Romance anthology if you've happened to have read that.

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>>82462676
>http://jovaline.tumblr.com/post/130710016689/i-just-received-my-copies-of-the-hrhzine-in-the
Huh... Kind of surprised I've never seen their work before... Might look into it, but thanks for the recommendation, anon!

>>82462506
Explain what what is?

>>82462940
Alrighty then, I guess we're done here.

>>82462967
If you say so. Goodnight.

Better than Tangled, worse than Frozen.

imo of course

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>>82459358
She was animated by the same guy who did Prince Kuzco. He's got a snappy style, needless to say.

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Greatest Disney Villain ever. You all know it.

Why hasn't Disneyland built a restaurant based on Tiana's Palace in New Orleans Square yet?

>>82464842

Isn't that basically the Blue Bayou?

>>82454868

Seriously, any longer and they would have turned on us again and demanded something else.

>>82462226
how about in Lion King where they don't show any animals being killed
how about in any medieval fantasy they shy away from the institutionalized patriarchy.

get the fuck out of here.

>>82457121
balance in things is a theme that does not appear often enough

>>82462364
no analogys are good for matters of the self for history its just shitty

>>82465584
But Disney doesn't make historic movies, and race relations aren't particularly a historic tpic.

>>82453912
Some good songs. Everything else was pretty forgettable. Except the villian, he was pretty cool. Also the main character might as well of been a secondary, everything revolved around the prince who had hardly any lines. And if I remember correctly the villian didn't even know about the main character until the very end. She might as well of been an after thought.

>>82464980
But we had animals being killed. Stop pretending Scar did nothing wrong!

>>82464842
Space is tight within Disneyland

>>82453912

I love the nigger princess as much as the next guy, but the movie was fucking boring.

>>82465648
muh 6 million gazelles

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>>82453912
they took my culture and blackwashed it.

that should be a crime

if they wanted a black princess they should have made an african fairy tale

one of my favorites disney movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBCBv1O_Xi4

For me it was great to see classic Disney animation and the movie was good overall. That said, it is painfully obvious that it was played safe and ended up making the movie go slowly.

On the flip side my little sister loved it and immediately claimed her as her favourite princess. So I guess that was nice.

And now I just want to fight Dr. Facilier in Kingdom Hearts 3.

>>82453912
Not a high note to end the long line of Disney's traditionally animated feature films on.

>>82459358
She deserve her own movie

>>82464980
But there are plenty animal deaths in Lion King.
But in Sword in the Stone we see patriarchy.

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>Tiana gets turned into an animal
>it's a generic frog design as seen in The Swan Princess

If you want to turn your protagonist into an animal give him/her an unique look, fucking idiots.

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>>82466441
Posting the superior black fairy tale animated movie.

>>82464876
>they
Anon I don't know how to tell you this...

>>82461420
>Actually, one of the biggest problems blacks had with this movie was that it was an interracial couple. And Naveen wasn't Caucasian. To be quite fair, that was the most progressive thing about this movie.
So people were upset that Naveen wasn't caucasian?
I thought they were upset when people brought up a black princess going with a white prince?