Bitching about the shitty ending and waging wars against ships

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>>82447987
there is only 1 way

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>PredomCalliope explains what happened to Lord English, says she has control of the narrative prompt, and will leave it open for us the fans to fill in
>A few blank pages while Davepeta creeps up to it in a hack epilogue psycheout
>Nepetaquest 2016 ensues

>>82447987
The perfect epilogue is LE wiping these chuckle fucks out of paradox space

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>>82448049
Daily reminder that Vriska being the most important character was clearly announced at the start of Act 5 and has always been true all along. Those that claim her actions in the end made no sense haven't actually been reading Homestuck.

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>>82448144
doesnt mean she isnt terrible

>>82448144
Clearly Kanaya is always right

>>82447987
>Vriska never gets seen again after the end of Act 5, not even a cameo - her arc ended perfectly there and every page she appeared in past that only diluted it
>The focus stays with the B1 Kids in Act 6, the B2 Kids are side characters and should be treated accordingly
>No retcon
>B1 Kids get to pose as a team cause shit just got real

>>82448339
>The focus stays with the B1 Kids in Act 6, the B2 Kids except Roxy are side characters and should be treated accordingly
Fixed.

>>82448339
Or even better. All the Trolls die.

Babies. Lots of babies.

>>82448339
>B1 Kids get to pose as a team cause shit just got real
It hurts.

>>82448467
Please god no

>>82448482
Really though, not ONCE did we ever see all four of the B1 kids all working together. It felt like Homestuck was building towards that ever since Act 3 at least, and it NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED.

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wwho else /eri/ here?
I blame these threads for making me SBaHJ style swap around from hating eri to him being one of my favorite trolls.

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>>82448144
Vriska being important was obvious ages ago. In fact, Andrew himself said she was "a new major character" in the story when he was writing Act 5 and answering Formspring questions.

The problem is that she's been handled terribly. You can make a dangerous character important without ruining the rest of your story.
I can totally deal with Vriska opening the juju chest (though I'm still pissed we never really saw it in action).
I can deal with Vriska coming back to life in a ridiculous, convoluted way that raises a thousand disturbing questions.
Hell, I can deal with Vriska facing zero consequences. That's alright, karma doesn't need to be a homing missile, or to even exist at all.

This stuff is "controversial author's pet" territory.

But I seriously can't condone the bullshit way she solved everyone's problems.
Or the way she came up with a plan she described in detail, before it went perfectly well with barely any surprises.
Or how she was never called out or criticized or even hinted to be awful by anyone in the entire cast.
Or Tavrosprite and Terezi acting in disturbing ways by licking her boots and then that never being brought up again.
Or her bullying Jake in front of his friends and in complete impunity.

Because THAT shit, on the other hand, is what has been handled terribly. And it rocketed its way into "shitty ironic meta-Mary Sue plot device" territory.
THOSE are the actions that make no sense and can barely be defended from a writing perspective. I'm fine with the rest.

>>82448560
Reminder that Eridan could take over Karkuck and Vristake's role

>romantic loser
>but still a competent guy
>finally finds love with Dave
>but he must defeat LE to save the world and tells Dave that evverythin wwill be alright

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>>82448630
Yeah the "Jape" thing really fucking bugged me.
That was so bad I actually considered the ghost writing meme. Or that Vriska had hijacked the story because that shit should not have flown.

Her being a cunt to Tavros and Terezi was like, alright whatever the only person who would care would be Kanaya and shes busy doing nothing.
But her being an asshole to Jake was so odd.

>>82448441
The B2 kids weren't even that bad, it's just that their shitty teenage drama literally went nowhere.

I was waiting for the moment to come where Jake finally stood up for himself, and Jane's villain story finally came to a satisfying end, but these moments never happened.

>>82448829
Thats the oddest part about Act 6. so much stuff was made pointless. Even Davepeta talking about the "ultimate self" I thought was going to be like "okay everyones going to collapse all their selves across every session and shit into one self before this is over as the last boon Skaia gives the players"
but uh...yeah that meant nothing too.

>>82448560
>evver doubtin our prince

>>82448630
>Or the way she came up with a plan she described in detail, before it went perfectly well with barely any surprises.

This isn't really that big of an issue. All she really did is gather everyone together, tell them about the various villains coming to get them, and then ask who wanted to fight who. As over the top as Collide was, it wasn't actually a big plot point. It was just a bunch of fights happening at once, and Vriska just kind of helped organize it all.

Then she went to fight LE, and had no idea what to do until Tavros showed up to save the day.

>>82447987
B1 kids get tons more signs of a B2 before Act 6, and SBurb lore shit actually talks about eight heroes from the beginning, leading the readers to wonder their asses off about it. Readers spend all of Act 5 wondering which 4 trolls will make that final 8, when they are being hornswoggled the whole time.

NO three-year timeskip! The meteor and ship go through a couple-day journey, no bullshitting even required. No one fucking cares if B2 kids are older, or even had to be older at all.

Doc Scratch continues to meddle, sending messages, setting up Caliborn, etc. The fact that this is all happening after his death is literally meaningless, he can message into the future just fine and why not? Hussie does not appear in comic much or meddle with any characters directly, with nearly all his dialogue moments taken over by Scratch.

Jade's corruption needs to be overcome with PURE TEAMWORK AND EMOTIONAL CONFRONTATION. Jane stays evil and cool and needs to be defeated with the rest of the bad guys but survives to epilogue where she grudgingly lives with do-gooders.

John gains no retcon powers, he's just really fucking strong and elusive and that's enough to be relevant. He and Roxy team-up to kill the batterwitch and that can be their bonding time.

PM loses to Jack and everyone has to deal with a Jack Squared with both rings as a final battle.

>>82448881
Credit to the anon who said this (or something like it, anyways)

>Homestuck: A story about a bunch of people doing nothing, for no reason, with no point

>>82448968
I think the reason the alpha kids were older was a remnant from the very beginning of Homestuck.
Back when the story was going to be something like...

Kids all have issues with their guardians -> Kids play a game -> Game gets fucked -> They have to swap positions -> Guardian!Kids have problems with their Guardians -> they meet -> bond and grow as people -> win the game

>>82448968
>Readers spend all of Act 5 wondering which 4 trolls will make that final 8, when they are being hornswoggled the whole time.
That could have been an excellent ruse cruise

>>82449035
Nope. The reason Hussie gave was that enough real out-of-comic time had passed that they would have been 3 years older, and he just thought that them catching up to real time would be a cool thing.

>>82449088
>catching up to real time
>4 years off
ahyuckhyuck

I remember people being very worried it would literally take three years for them to arrive. In a way it took 5 years for them to arrive and do anything that actually mattered.

Have Vriska killed in the final battle and (Vriska) open the chest.

>>82449088
>>82449118
John's 20th birthday was about three weeks ago.

Karkat fights on the roof along with the Striders and Terezi, none of this "weakest character" shit that is never once brought up or shown before the retcon, then convinces Slick to become a tentative ally
Slick replaces Bec Noir as the Jack that actually lives

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>>82448144
This guy gets it, Vriska is truly the best thing to ever come out of homestuck and people should be reminded of this fact daily.

>>82448968
Left out what happens with Lord English m8

The Jack^2's death creates a second green sun right when the first one is destroyed by the black hole. English gets his powers back mid-fight and busts the ghost army.

Scratch makes sure to gloat about them being D O U B L E
S U C K E R S

Then they team up with Spades Slick and go through the felt mansion backwards through time and fuck up the first intermission, because that would be fun, and finally confront the big man - if they succeed, Calliope explains, it will make an entire offshoot reality where the furthest ring survived and they can deposit their session there for the epilogue.

Narratively speaking was there any point to all the meenah quest shit?
Like I remember finding a crowbar but I have no idea if it ever came back up

>>82449296
Never came up. You collect all of the felt jujus in those I'm pretty sure and none of it matters.

>>82449296
no

>>82447987
>Feferi sets up the dream bubbles, but the Horrorterrors restricts them to members of her session only
>All the trolls die, we never see them again

>Rose and Dave still reach the new session somehow (they're with John and Jade and have a full group reunion, they steal a purple battleship from Derse's ruins and distance Jack through Time/Light trickery, PM kills Jack in his shock and she and WV join Dave and Rose on the ship, WHATEVER)
>Beta and Alpha kids meet up, deal with Alpha kids drama and the mind control arc, kick Jack/Condy/LE ass
>GOOD END

>PLOT TWIST! The trolls are still here in the dream bubbles and they try to find a way to come back to life and join the kids' universe or something like that.
>It's a sequel hook for Homestuck 2: The Comic/The Game
That's one of the ways I would fix Homestuck if I could.

http://mspfanventures.com/?s=8617

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>>82449447

>>82449447
fuckin beautiful

I miss hashmap

>>82449447
Perfect

>>82449296
there's a ton of foreshadowing too and backhanded references to Lord English, it's heavily implied that we were going to get a lot more about the Dancestors than we did

but that was shortly after the kickstarter was funded, before he got screwed over by TOG, before the year-long break, before his dad died, and before he probably broke up with his girlfriend

I think that maybe he decided to just drop all that shit and get the comic over with. Maybe it'll show up in Hiveswap though, who knows... although Hiveswap isn't even being written by Hussie.

>>82449503
I miss sylladices

>>82448695
Honestly Vriska being an asshole to Jake didn't surprise me. She enjoys gratuitous cruelty, she noticed a target that was unlikely to fight back, and she got her fix of sadism.
Vriska attacking Jake? Sure. Jake's friends completely ignoring it? Raise the 'What the fuck is going on' alarm immediately, we've got a problem.

Her going after Tavros and Terezi wasn't unexpected either. But their complete lack of reaction was.
Tavros had attempted to murder before he died, because he was tired of her shit. And he was likely enjoying his afterlife before she brought him back.
Even if he enjoys spritehood, there's still no reason for him to sincerely bow down to her and compliment her.

Terezi is... well, Terezi. She did not spent three years being screwed with by cloun, she should at least be slightly better off than (Terezi), a bit more combative and stubborn.
But she praises and submissively obeys Vriska when she suggests things that go against her principles. Prototyping her friends back to life comes to mind.

That's character regression out of nowhere, and that's bullshit.

>>82448968
To me, it felt jarring. Vriska doesn't understand people and their strengths, and that alone should be enough. But mostly, she's been shown to be nothing of a decent tactician, except maybe in her mind. She has no subtlety, she mind controls and bashes things until they ploy.
She puts people through horribly dangerous things to power them up and is offended when they somehow end up traumatized.
She thought her scent wouldn't lead Evil Teleporting Dog Jack to the meteor, who was warned by Terezi about it, and disregarded that warning, prompting Terezi to kill her.

Vriska coming up with a good plan was jarring - and that plan working without a hitch was even more so.

>>82449447
why can't mspfanventures host their own damn images, this is the most half-assed publishing service in the history of the internet

>>82449518
>Hiveswap isn't even being written by Hussie.
That seemed weird to me. I understand he wanted to get the game started with the what pumpkin people with a solid skeleton plot but I really really hope he goes back to work on the game after a break or something. I'm sure the lead writer is funny by theres 0% chance he'll be able to write dialogue as good as hussie.

>>82449296
the crowbar is a juju, so like cal it can only exist in one instance for a timeline and has a causal loop.

We can follow most of the crowbar's timeline, but collide messes it up, because it gets lost when spades and lord jack die.

>>82449447
11/10 beautiful.

>>82449518
why do people do feel the need to rattle off a list of things that have gone wrong in hussie's life instead of accepting that he's responsible for his own failings

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>>82448185
hey check your email

>>82449552
>Dozens of good fanadventures have been lost to the sands of time because MSPAF CANNOT MIRROR FOR SHIT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>82449588
How did Scratch get Calliope's gun anyway?

>>82449552
http://mspfanventures.com/?s=63

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>82449587
because he was so good and we all idolized him
it makes us feel better to know that things went bad for a reason

>>82449594
>Voices is gone forever because it was never mirrored from MSPAF and the author let the domain he used to host it expire
Oh well

>>82449633
I think someone mentioned in one of these threads that they have the bowman adventure saved

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>>82447987
>What would be the perfect epilogue for you?

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I Did It My Brethren

I Found Out Where The Huss Of Hackness Lives

Now Im Gonna Go Exact My Revenge And Make Sure He Pays For His Crimes

Wish Me Luck

>>82449833
The perfect end for you is moose taking over the world?

>>82449633
>>82449655
hey the images are suddenly loading again

did bowman pull a rolal and seal them in a server deep in the furthest ring?

>>82449845
Are you going to hold him at gunpoint and force him to rewrite everything from Act 5 onward?

>>82449879
No it's sollux and aradia fucking off (and possibly dying) and never returning. Ever.

>>82449920
It seems like the images are on two different servers
Everything on iambowman.com is still available, but everything on gravypile.com is lost

I'd like to see a comic/story not unlike the wire taking place in the AIDS universe. It'd be nice to see something with few fantastical elements from him

andrew can really do that whole gritty urban feel despite being what seems to be upper-middle class.

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What even is her face trying to signify?

>>82450132
"Oh hey this what happens when fucking reality breaks into a kajillion pieces."

>>82450132
>shit i hope no one notices my lack of maroon make up and plot relevance

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>>82450132
Her never ending need for dicking

>>82450132
why do people think aradia escaped the black hole?

>>82450183
THE POWER OF BONER

>>82450218
that's why she was there for
that was the plan
to give us a boner

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>>82449920
i've always needed reaction images of myself

>>82450183
Because she clearly had no trouble against its pull?

>>82450435
what does that even mean, she's inside the cracked void along with every other ghost

>>82450432
why

Does LE become a ghost when he dies?

>>82450529
Your interpretation

>>82450529
dream babbles are kill so no

>>82450432
what did he mean by this?

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>>82448467

>>82450615
I can't find anything wrong with this, other than the art.

>>82450615
>that half-troll freak of nature

kill it

>>82450373
you fkn what

>>82450673
It's an old pic so the first two are Johnrose kids. Also wasn't there a jade-tavros kid in this?

>>82450754
Yeah but you can pretend they're JohnRoxy kids with no change.

>>82450750
i was the gay asian locksmith
well not literally, but my avatar was used for his face

>>82450747
Wonder what its genitals are like

>>82450834
pretty nice trivia, always wondered where the face came from. you probably have a higher bowman resonance than any of his fans here, and they're pretty rabid

how do you feel about the forums being tanked?

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>>82450615
>edited

>>82450969
TAKE IT BACK

Shit I completely missed this thread

reply to >>82450930 here

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>It's a "monogamous Davekat happens" epilogue
Will Jade end up feeling so lonely, she will date Tavros out of desperation?

>>82451003
no

>>82450890
i honestly hope the archives really are lost forever
i did a bunch of dumb shit, most notably starting a fan adventure every time i got an idea and never sticking to one, to the point where the mods had to compress them all into one thread
i was pretty much MSPAF's eridan, come to think of it

>>82451023
please

>>82451089
Oh shit, that's the ladybug thing right?

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>>82451047
anything that wasn't in archive.org is lost forever, but 150k pages are still downloadable

I'll upload it on reddit when I'm done

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>>82451012
or Nep even?

>>82451131
I'm so glad someone is actually ripping them all

>>82450373
>>82451047
somebody made this yesterday and I thought you'd get a kick out of it

http://imgur.com/9bGeHA1

>>82451148
>equius, nep and other girl on different planes in space

>>82450864
Nuclear waste explosion in a sushi factory.

If tavros wasn't such a useless piece of sub-beta shit then vriska would not have been able to steal so much of the spotlight.

>>82451174
I hate this.
And I hate that it made me laugh.

>>82451131
>on reddit
why

post malenep art please

>>82451174
why not just post it in the thread

>>82451269
we're talking about a problem caused by the lack of reliable archives and you want me to explain why I'm not posting it only on 4chan?

>>82447987
Focus more on the gameplay of Sburb and the adventures within. Have Lord English be a cryptic threat relegated to the horrorterrors, not an invading force in the comic.

Have Rose not lose all her character to be Kanaya's clitsleeve. Have Karkat actually GET A FUCKING ARC instead of what happened. Don't have the beta trolls appear at all, except maybe post humourously in the form of messages left for their successors.

Have PM get consumed by vengeance and have WV stop her from going full retard. Have lasting consequences to Jade and Rose's dead dreamselves(no god tiers).

DON'T KILL SPADES SLICK ON THE FIFTH LAST PAGE FOR FUCK SAKE.

>>82451300
freedomposts get deleted senpai

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>>82451319
are they still getting shitcanned

let me see

>>82451354
this is an absurdly long amount of time for a freedom to be up considering how fast threads are being deleted

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>>82451244
Everyone becomes a boneless wreck when exposed to radioactive Vriskanium for long enough. It happened to two thirds of the main cast.
A call to authors everywhere: Don't let your characters spend too much time around nuclear waste. You, too, can prevent arc contamination.

Instead of removing Vriska, I really wish that the kids and trolls actually figured out a way to use her properly. Like, Spider8itch is potentially a tremendous asset, and really is not very psychologically complex. You'd think that sooner or later they'd figure out that if ignoring her and punishing her don't actually work, selective use of positive reinforcement is really the only tactic they have left. But they just couldn't fucking bother.

>>82451111
Yeah but why is it always davejade

>>82448630
>But I seriously can't condone the bullshit way she solved everyone's problems
Yeah, this is what chuffs my balls. We see that the trolls and kids have fallen and become fuck ups due to dysfunction and lack of leadership. Why the fuck does saving Vriska stop any of that? She's a terrible leader and doesn't actually care enough about anyone to stop their issues.

>>82451429
Because Jade is a long-black-haired nerd girl and Dave is the designated blond fuckboy? Shit, even if they weren't a HS ship they'd be the most suitable candidates.

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With some guesswork it was a simple matter to fill in the missing images of the Bowman adventure. I put together a archived based on mspfanventures here:

https://mega.nz/#!2hZ2kLDK!vYV4jwYvFo5h1_1OOnH8QWeOGWPpmUvBEV3qgGHSy18

I'm guessing that the last few pages are missing because mspfanventures wasn't complete, but the images from those missing pages are still in there.

>>82451425
this would have been such a good third option.
give her the stick-and-carrot treatment and everything works out for everyone, AND it's funny to boot.

>>82451444
but you see, anon! she
um
kept them on their toes, something something common enemy, something something terezi
-train noises-
and that's why vriska was crucial to the meteor crew's morale and the entire cast's success!

>>82451444
Because as Thief of Light, she literally hogged all the plot importance resulting in the meteor crew pretty much remaining in limbo. It just that the three year journey was the ONLY time where that was a good thing, because circumstances rendered positive plot development impossible.

>>82451509
you're a god among men. the last bits were attributed to posts only on the forum and not on the mspafan mirror, so I'm guessing the text for those are gone unless somebody has an archived snapshot like >>82451131

I only had the pictures saved, but you went the full mile

>Scape goating Vriska
Everyone was shit in Act 6, and having Aradia or someone do more wouldn't have improved the narrative. The problems stem from a deep lack of resolution and cohesion that couldn't be solved by playing Mad Libs with the characters, and the only reason people think otherwise is because Vriska had so much screen time when screen time was character poison.

>>82451429
blonde guy is a coolkid who's secretly awkward and the long haired black nerd girl has a crush on him

>>82448144
Just cause he announced it doesnt make the execution any less shit

I know that this has been said many times before, but I can't believe that the guy who unironically wrote an entire speech about toxic masculinity and how sexuality is a social construct into his comic is the same guy who wrote the comics for TeamSpecialOlympics.com. The part of me that doesn't want to think that Hussie fell prey to the identity-politics crowd still thinks that Hussie wrote those scenes while held at gunpoint by IGPD.

>>82451425
Selective use of positive reinforcement would solve almost all the issues the trolls seem to have, at least to a semi-functional level. They're supposed to be pretty fucked up, but I would have liked to have seen it actually happen over the duration of the story in the case of main characters, like Karkat, Vriska and Tavros. Especially Karkat, I kept waiting for that plot point to come up and yet it never fucking did in a way we managed to see, we're just told Dave did it in the retcon meteor journey.

>>82451836
more likely that he said "hey ipgd do you want to write a few pages of homestuck" and she was like "DO I"

>>82451836
ipgd is now trying to get people to stop using faggot and use cuck instead under the pretense of "cuck is funnier"

>>82451894
honestly I wish he'd done this. can you imagine THE OCHINCHIN IS FUCKING STUPID as canon? that thing is great

>>82448630
The weird thing is how hussie seemed to go out of his way to explicitaty not fix any part of her in the retcon.
Her whole problem is that she is utterly blinded by her own ego, to the point where despite being a god tier all it took to kill her was terezi waltzing up and stabbing her with a sword. After the retcon happens hussie goes out of his way to show us how she's still super far up her own ass. Her talk with (vriska) was all her calling (vriska) a loser and a quitter despite her only being alive because terezi and john swooped in to save her ass from her own screw ups.
And this would have been super easy to fix. Terezi could have added to the instructions something that got the message to vriska that she ate it because she was to full of herself, then vriska goes through some sort of humbling arch and her saving everyone would make sense. Once she gets over herself she can be super amazing, it would have been a fine arch that fit right in. But he specifically puts in a section doing the opposite and then when she gets away with it all we realize he just wrote a mary sue and played it straight.

>>82451899
cuck was funnier, until everyone started using it all the time

I warned you guys.
I'm making a new style. For my art.

>>82451899
I didnt know ipgd went to /v/

>>82451939
who the fuck are you and why should i even care

>>82451899
>>82451894
why is this whore so cancerous?

>>82451975
it's one of those people who use irony to hide their shitty personality and believe any negative attention they get is equally ironic

>>82451836
Meh. It sucks sure but I doubt its pressure or anything. I've seen plenty of artists/writers go the same route all on their own. People change.

>>82451964
>who the fuck are you
Someone closer than you can image
>why should i even care
BECAUSE I'VE HAD ENOUGH

>>82451939
>>82452028
go home ryan, we don't like your husbando anymore

>>82452028
>I'VE HAD ENOUGH

that's cute

>>82448049
Incorrect.

The correct answer is to cut the fucking shit out of Acts 5 and 6. Part of this is getting rid of most of the characters who aren't Vriska so we have to deal with Vriska less, ironically.

>>82452066
God I can't belive all the dick sucking he gets for squirrel girl being so fucking mediocre just for being le hipster indie man

i'm hussie

what's up guys?

>>82451927
You don't even need to do ANY of that shit. Vriska was already at her arcs climax, and the arc ended in tragedy. Just have her missing her opportunity be the moment it sunk it, instead of the moment she died, and you're done. You can even still have her lambast (Vriska), because most of the stuff she got railed for is still applicable with a Vriska from the retcon point.

>>82451616
Having Aradia do it would've been stupid, but Aradia didn't have a shittons of crimes to her name.

>>82451592
Yeah, nah. I think it's just Hussie using meta-narrative to write himself out of a corner in the easiest way possible.

For example: Karkat's entire existence and his troll jesus traits. Like how we never got any follow up on Karkat wanting to have Terezi in every quadrant, or what the fuck was up with his denizen, or what his powers were, or why he was important, or who Calliope and Caliborn both wore his symbols and typed in associated colours.

Also, the fuck was the point of retconning him and Terezi?

>>82451540
That about sums it up.

>hey lets have a character none of us like and has killed one of us before lead us
>this can never go wrong

>>82452138
hello ipgd

>>82452153
no it's me
hussie

>>82452138
>Not even bothering to name yourself Hussie
This is the lowest quality fake I've seen in years

>>82452179
when's barty 4?

>>82451836
For the longest time I thought it was leading up to a joke wherein Dirk asks Dave if him and Karkat are dating and he replies "no fuck thats gay"

>>82452249
I'm still convinced there's a punchline there, because Dave still hasn't explicitly stated what he has his panties in a knot about, and John outright asked.if he was gay and got a "no".

>>82452249
>Dave asking how to come out amounted to literally nothing

>>82452326
the punchline is that he's bi

>>82452387
That's not a punchline. It's also not consistent with Dave's character before hand.

Same with John having a hatecrush on Terezi.

>>82452138
What did he meme by this?

>>82452430
John and terezi has at least some amount of precedent. Their first pesterlogs were pretty hateflirty in retrospect.

>>82452465
Yeah, but I don't think John would be down for quadrants. He's a human, afterall, and seemed pretty content with Roxie ass.

>>82452138
what did you do with bowman

>>82452430
John and Terezi having a hatecrush is just Karkat misinterpreting human reactions and John being John. It was normal human teenage flirting. Hatecrush isn't a thing for humans, and Hussie has kept by that pretty obvious principal intact so far.

Have there been any news updates for anything Homestuck-related since 4/13?
No Hiveswap, Paradox Space, anything?
Did Hussie just say "fuck it" and move to a secluded cabin in the Yukon wilderness?

Anyone got that Joxy pic we all fucked with last night? I'm looking for the all white one with only the scarf and symbols colored

>>82452917
He's been on a three week Olive Garden bender trying to forget.

>>82452917
we've had longer bouts of radio silence.

expect an update by 6/12 at the latest

>>82452917
Pretty much

>>82452949
http://desustorage.org/co/thread/82425570/#82431515

>>82453013
It just seems like there should be more of an update than just "Homestuck's over."
We still have no idea of how much of the game is done.
As far as I know there is no schedule of sorts for new Paradox Space comics, and I sure as hell am not going to buy a book of them. I just need something to combat the upd8 withdrawals at this point.

>>82452917
He edited the end of homestuck newspost about half an hour after people started reacting to the total shitshows of an ending. Other than that, not a fucking peep. I mean shit, it's not like he got his break based on fan interaction and feedback or anything

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>>82448066
>Nepetaquest 2016
my body is ready

>>82449526
I miss Sburb mechanics in general.

>>82453162
wasn't act 7 supposed to be the epilogue?

>>82453361
Yes
Now the epilogue was totally planned for after act 7

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>>82453361
Everybody forgets the last part.

>>82453449
I refuse to believe he planned to do a single thing after act 7, mainly because of the fact the newspost had to be edited.

>>82453449
There was a newspost about it during the pauses iirc

What is the most heart-wrenching part of Homestuck and why is it [S] Terry: Fast forward to Liv.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1FgHqfD740

>>82453513
speeding through bowman's heartfelt soliloquy is a fucking travesty

>>82453513
Who the fuck was terry

>>82453476
It could be the case that he wanted the epilogue to be a surprise and then decided to pull the punch. I'm probably giving him too much credit though.

>>82453513
where did those weapons come from

>>82453573
Jake's name for the Con Air bunny.

>>82453513
DON'T WANNA CLOSE MY EYES
I DON'T WANNA FALL ASLEEP
CAUSE I MISS YOU, BABE
AND I DON'T WANNA MISS A THIIIIING

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>>82454010
>nick smalley on guitar!

>>82454109
You don't have to tell me what happened, but you do have to eat these.

>>82454109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdYK42D5Xo0
now this is a rare bowman in the background

>>82454176
Man that shit still cracks me up

>>82454109
YEAH
PLAY THAT SHIT

So this is how we die
Not with a bang
But with a shitpost

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>>82453210
Jade walksprites would've been nice.

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>>82454670
We live by the shiposts we die by the shitposts.

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>>82454938
I'm hoping the final post is wwalks out of thread or a Shai'hulud

>>82454853
Tell me you have the other metastuck characters too

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FINISH ME

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>>82455058
I think that was the only walksprite. Heres a Trickster/Brazilian HSG

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>>82455058
Sadly no.

haha. you guys'll see.

my
new
style

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Andrew Hussie ruined my life.

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Bowman has long since moved on.

Look how happy he is.

My life is a mess.

>>82455166
You have no style, you have no grace

>>82455182
If some guy on the Internet can ruin your life by making a shitty webcomic then maybe your life wasn't that great to begin with.

>>82455148
>no sprites for walking up
hmmmmm

>>82455292
STOP MAKING FUN OF ME

>>82455148
Why didn't we make a game or something during the hiatus?

>>82455343
They also seem to think that they need pre-flipped left/right images for some reason.

>>82455367
late night hsg is making a book and working on a dating sim

>>82455367
>he isn't making his own homestuck

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>>82455367
I didn't make my metastuck game. I could say shit like "depression" and "hopped up on anti-depressants" but really I have no excuse. I managed to get other shit done.
I hope to make up for it in the near future.

Alright /hst/, how are we going to string out the time before our ban to be as long as possible? What semi-constructive thing are we going to do to prevent /hst/ from fading into nothing but Freedom and attempts at reviving Shai'Hulud, along with Ara pictures?

>>82455166
Is this you?
>>>/aco/548550

>>82455550
Do nothing but bitch about the ending nonstop. I noticed that threads tend to last longer when everybody is just bitching with their hatred directed at a single target, rather than arguing with each other or shitposting with off-topic content.

>>82455630
no

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>>82455490
>dating sim

>>82455367
I was on a team for that one homestuck moba. the UI artist was bretty good. a lot of people coming up with ideas. But with only two modelers and sub-par texturing it feel through pretty quickly.

I suggested we used babyfawn's new HS playset models when that came out, as like 5 of the trolls were done. but the project died

>>82455550
Some anons are compiling an archive of
/hsg/, drawfriends are drawing, a dating sim has been discussed, as has a quest. Jackquest is a thing.

Late night /hsg/ is a lot more chill and a lot more gay.

and I'm writing a nine kid fansession.

I
'm worki

>>82455490
>hsg is making a book

it will be the first 100% shitpost book.

>>82455667
>but the project died
really? damn, when did that happen?

>>82455705
well I believe we started early 2014, but after 3 months or so traffic slowed way down. then by april 2015 it was dead.

we got pretty much nothing done in the animation department but the programmer had gotten some abilities working. so it was like dave and john in rigid positions just doing damage to eachother's infinite nonexistent healthbars

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>>82455698
based on this book that an anon got for gristmas
so technically the 2nd book of shitposts

>>82447987
>how would you fix Homestuck?
Made davejade canon and have them kiss ;_;

>>82455771
I can't believe I'm going to pay real money for a book of shitposts.

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>>82455789
Nono anon, if we leave the ships ambiguous EVERYONE gets to be happy! Except every single person who cared about shipping.

>>82455771
This just reminds me of my first gristmas gift, I got a really sweet fic of all the kids talking about their loot after Christmas morning. It was sursprisingly touching.
I wonder if that writefag is still around.
Fuck I need go find that fic again

>>82455819
I'm gonna try to keep the price as low as I possibly can without owing money on every copy

>>82455950
that's pretty neato of you anon.

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>>82455950

>>82455986
Well it'd be pretty garbage if I tried to make a profit off of other people's work

>>82456011
It's not as if you aren't putting work into it too though. Probably more work than the people who made the posts at any rate.>>82456011

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Dan Vs or Motor City
which would you prefer to view in a "streaming environment"

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>>82455950
you are the best
godspeed

>>82456011
I mean considering your going to have peoples art and fics, most without their consent, yeah that would be pretty fucking shitty to charge anything for it

>>82456099
the archivist anons are performing a service. they've got to charge something to print the books at least.

oh-ho.
getting close.

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>>82456185
Dude I don't want to hear you liveblog your fapping experience.

>>82456151
You're missing the point, just because someone post Mickey Mouse or Chaz's art here doesn't mean I can just slap them in a book and sell it, at production cost or not.

>>82456099
Yeah, pretty much
Even if I'm the one assembling them, that's not really something I could in good conscience charge for.
Really it's just basic decency, I didn't mean to make it sound like I was being benevolent

>>82456232
KOALA

>>82456238
sure. I just read that one anon's comment as them being entitled and got bitchy (now looking back I see that they probably just meant profiting off other's work is bad

>>82455950
Is it america only or will it deliver to random shitholes

if you really had a problem with profiting off others work you probably wouldn't read homestuck lol

>>82456393
I'm not actually sure yet at this very moment
If the publisher I use only ships to certain regions I can always ship you a book myself

>>82456430
>artist should just be paid in exposure!

>>82447987
>Only mention Beforus, without really spending much time there since everything could've been done without them

>Take Meenah's role in organizing the ghost army and give it to Karkuck

>No fucking Jasprose
>No fucking Davepeta
>They both just get prototyped with something else, maybe even each other since that'd be better than what we got

>Actually have a short closure arc for each relationship/friendship (Jake and Dirk talk about what happened and decide to stay buds, Roxyjohn master race, Equius gets to apologize to Nepeta through sprite shit or whatever, John and Vriska finally get to hang out irl, etc.)

>Beautiful Midnight Crew ghost reunion in the form of all of them getting to meet up and play cards in a smokey room or some shit

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>>82456478
Whats the page count looking like right now?

also
>>82456064

>>82456532
>John and Vriska finally get to hang out irl and John kills Vriska, and it turns out that she wasn't integral to the plot after all and that Hussie wasn't a hack after all
That's better.

>>82455182
Source?

>>82456430
I don't buy merch and I use adblock

>>82456557
Well currently i'd estimate it's over 500 pages
But it's still a little too early to say for sure exactly how big it is
I don't know if you've noticed but I've been giving a lot of really dodgy answers and that's mostly because all I've gotten done so far is acquisitions, I haven't even started assembling it yet
This is very much a work in progress

>>82453513
I almost feel like How Do I would have been a better fit for that moment, if only because it would fit less.

Stop making me dejected /hst/

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>>82455950
I want to help, but I don't know how. if you don't tell me how, then I'll default to buying a copy.

>>82456652
are you the one thats going to work with loki?

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>>82456704
>Roxy or Rose never went cat tier
Missed opportunity

>>82456738
>Jade
>Holding a handgun
She uses Riflekind you uncultured swine

>>82456532
>Actually have a short closure arc for each relationship/friendship (Jake and Dirk talk about what happened and decide to stay buds, Roxyjohn master race, Equius gets to apologize to Nepeta through sprite shit or whatever, John and Vriska finally get to hang out irl, etc.)

and jake beating the shit out of jane

>>82456652
Mozai said he'd be willing to help. You can message him on twitter or something to get in touch. https://twitter.com/Mozai

You'll probably have some success turning it into a pdf.
I'm sure theres some tutorials about cropping and positioning for books out there somewhere.

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>>82456781
You missed the point, they're learning to share.

>>82456726
Yeah, that's me
I think at this point I'm the only one working on the book, the other anon that I know about tapped out yesterday and I haven't seen anyone else talking about doing it
>>82456704
You can always upload your HSG folder to mega, and I can sift through it to see if you've got something I need
>>82456818
Oh shit, for real? Christ, this is turning into a real production

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>>82456854
Janebunny and Roxykitten get into fights.

>>82456854
Like Jane needs more cookies

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>>82456934

>>82456854
Roxy also uses Riflekind, not Pistolkind

That picture triggers my autism and I demand you remove it immediately

>>82456791
b-but what did Jane do anon?

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>>82456963
Make me.

>>82457011
>implying hsg would go to a parade.

that's an awful lot of being outside. I think he'd get a pretty bad sunburn.

>>82457011
oh fuck that is cute

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>>82457044
He's doing it for the sake of his kittendaughter

best recurring gag?

I liked how magic kept getting confirmed and unconfirmed for real

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moomins

>>82457114
>Be the other guy
and variations thereof

>>82457079
Who entrusted HSG with a baby?

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>>82457166
We don't know

>>82457114
I always can appreciate the girls destroy bathroom fixtures joke

>>82457153
I did "DAVE: stop being the other guy"

>>82457114
>You can't be X because X is too busy being Y.
[S] Ride.
Weapon/Object duality

>>82457131
Why is Kanaya the only one with a mouth?

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>>82456872
Yea I was the one suggesting a few threads back that we make it into a pdf with instructions on how to use a self-publishing site. That way anons can choose the quality of the printing (hardcover, softcover, matte/glossy, etc) to keep it within their own price range, just a thought.

Also holy shit 500 pages

>>82457212
I didn't want to draw another set of ears

>>82457212
Because Kanaya is a troll, not a moomin.

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>>82456872
oh ok sweet, im glad its only one person doing it
threads would get really awkward really fast

speaking of, would anyone be interested in metastuck buttons?
i always thought it would be a neat physical reminder of all the fun stuff that went down here

>>82457263
I'm not Finnish, Swedish, or Japanese but I thought Moomins were supposed to be some kind of troll?

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>tfw your headcanons retroactively got destroyed by the comic itself

>>82456872
https://mega.nz/#F!uJpiCJrZ!05WnTCSqnylox2pHLThhzQ
heres my HSG/metastuck folder
also have the metastuck album

>>82457131
I don't understand what moomins means.

did HSG posters drive out a bunch of the /hst/ regs? a lot of them have disappeared since updates started again

>>82457283
stop trying to cash in on my precious memories by making merchandise i will surely buy

>>82457283
Eh I don't know why I'd wear one. Buttons are more about showing other people little bits of your interests, but no one's gonna know about metastuck.

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>>82457348

You know I know Hussie wrote himself as being in love with Vriska as a joke but I think he literally is in love with Vriska

I understand the temptation, in one of my shitty manuscripts I basically fell in love with my main villain who was a lying sociopath that crucified hundreds of thousands of people, but after sending it to some readers and getting feedback that she was insufferable I actually fucking changed it

>>82456064
I've not seen Motorcity but Dan Vs is so bland I don't see it making for fun streaming

>>82457389
oh

>>82457351
good riddance

>>82457398
did you at least write or draw porn of her?

>>82457354
they would be pretty much at cost, i wanted to offer little drawings to go with them

>>82457387
i dunno, i put buttons on my convention lanyards or like corkboards at work, non of my co workers would recognize them but they were cute to have up

>>82457351
like who? All the namefags and memers are still around

>>82457251
That might be what ends up having to happen as time goes on and this thing gets bigger, for various reasons
>>82457331
I appreciate it, anon

>>82457445
My main character made out with her and it's FPOV

B-but sex is too lewd

>>82457351
>>82457480
I didn't know there were /hst/ regulars
name any?

>>82457514
Isn't /HST/ the edgy counterpart to /HSG/?

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>>82457554
>/hst/ edgy

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Will Joey save Homestuck?

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>>82457398
holy shit what

details man

>>82457554
/hst/ was pretty cool. redwood was one of the last to disappear if I remember. then it was chill for a good year

>>82457554
>>82457568
HST is more cynical, but is also more chill and sane than HSG

HSG is a nightmarish eldtrich abomination comprised interlocking penises, vaginas, and tripfags

>>82457351
>implying there's anything difference between HSG and HST

you know now that I think about it, the reason acts 1-5 were so good was because Hussie was still heavily involved with fans and so he had his finger on the pulse of fan theories etc, so he had really clear ideas of where the story could go and how it would work out

then the fanbase ballooned and started developing sub-subcultures and secondary fans that all had conflicting values, including some groups that were decidedly not interested in speculation or treating Homestuck like a puzzle, so he just kind of withdrew from it all and instead of writing Homestuck as a collaborative effort with fans it became 100% Hussie and was constrained by his human limitations

>>82457592
Welll people have two sides to them right

like a buisiness side and a personal side

like Hitler was all into Eugenics and shit but he would also hang out with his doggie

so i thought id combine a clumsy moe manic pixie dream girl and combine her with a Utilitarian Nationalist who believes in crucifixtion as a form of ethnic cleansing

>>82457687
less tripfags
less single phrase shit posts.

at the start it was generally more on topic, and even know it's more topical than HSG would be after a previous week full of updates.

>>82457726
Oh my goodness that sounds like a special kind of terrible

>>82457615
I've only been here two and half years, redwood was the only guy I'd heard tales about. then every time we got an update there were some sporadic trips that people generally ignored, but as we got closer and closer to the end it just inflated, and now there are people from way back when that I'd never heard of taking center stage.

I don't want to sound like an elitist faggot but it's sort of jarring.

>>82457726
there's something about utilitarian minmaxing for a goal that just makes great waifus.

ie my waifu

>>82457770
HST has more discussion of the plot, sure, but it's all fucking negative

The tripfags might have been attentionwhores but at least they weren't cynical nitpicky fucks

And GOD FORBID if you tell anyone in these threads that you LIKE the Retcon and Davekat

>>82457776
>I'm the only person who remembers Redwood getting drunk and role playing as roxy on HSG late night edition

>>82457776
a lot of attentionwhore ghosts from the past came back, only to find that their old haunt was under new management.

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>>82457803
>liking the retcon
>liking davekat

>>82457813
tell us more

>>82456970
litteraly everything.
i feel like dirk genuinely cared about him, and just went about everything in the wrong way. if he makes up with him they could still be friends

jane is "i don't even care about this guy and he annoys me a lot of the time, but he's hot so im going to throw a fit and make his life miserable if he doesn't fuck me."
between both of their influences, he was reduced to a shambling husk of a man. just look at his last main conversations, getting shit on by huge spider bitch and retarded seizure cat,
and self loathing saying how shit he is and doesn't deserve to be with anyone.

>>82457848
motherfucker did this like six times. And no one besides me noticed or remembered. It was incredibly annoying because he'd involve Roxykitten shit and spam it.

>>82457803
>>82457842
I liked the retcon when it was happening but in retrospective it seems like Hussie just didn't want to change the original ending he came up with.

>>82457773
well yeah it kind of was

but i think i understand why hussie loves vriska so much

see fiction isnt real life so "evil" isn't so much "evil" as it is "interesting and cool"

i know that sounds edgy but in fiction "evil" means "dynamic" means "ambition" means "actually does stuff"

so you grow to admire a villain's agency and view their crimes as like part of a high score

so because i fell in love with my cute albino genocider i could see why hussie fell in love with vriska

except he had to be a complete dick about it by "ironically" showing comic panels of himself falling in love with vriska

like shit nigga you ain't fooling me

i know you've given your dick at least a half tug to vriska

>>82457884
retcon quest was cool, but the actual retcon was hot garbage

>>82457789
gog DAMN nepeter

>>82457884
>>82457932
I would've liked the retcon better if it was something more than Yet Another Causality Loop

>>82457931
This is making me wonder how Hussie feels about most of the fandom absolutely loathing vriska in act 6, post-retcon especially

i think aradia isn't that cute

The Retcon is dumb and "VRISKA IS THE KEY TO ALL OF THIS" is even dumber

I mean

Dear LORD

The ENTIRE POINT of Terezi's showdown with Vriska is that Terezi DIDN'T WANT to kill Vriska, but saw that NOT KILLING HER would cause DISASTER

It was a really POIGNANT moment and ironically enough the reason Vriska couldn't come back from it was because the sheer moral circumstances of the situation made Vriska's death JUST

Like GODDAMN

Hussie threw all that MORAL WEIGHT of Terezi having to basically OLD YELLER her best friend so he could have his funny Br8k Spider waifu back

>>82457870
did Jake and Jane have any real chemistry whatsoever
I'm drawing a blank
At least his relationship with Dirk was playfully antagonistic

>>82457514
I'm the guy who proposed the dumb DOTA theory that sort of caught on here. I don't come here as much as I used to though because there's no comic left to discuss.

Is the retcon itself inherently bad, or was it just the execution that failed?

How could it have been improved without removing it entirely?

REMINDER DOMESTIC ABUSE IS NOT "playful"
NO MATTER WHAT YOUR SHITTY ANIME SAYS

>>82458103
To be fair, it's not possible for Terezi to have seen John's interference. Without John interfering, she may have made the correct decision (although it become more and more dubious that Vriska would've lost to Bec Noir as Act 6 went on)

Can somebody post pictures of the following:
-Karezi
-LE/Caliborn killing people

>>82458144
is it still domestic abuse if you live on opposite ends of the earth in different houses and also in different centuries

>>82458185
is that you speedreadanon?

>>82458128
limit the retcon in some way, i.e. make it so it has a limited number of uses so john has to carefully plan where and when to retcon

also make the changes a bit less retarded than lolvriska

>>82458184
Don't you remember Doc Scratch's monologue?

Terezi didn't give a shit that Vriska would lose, the problem was that even if Vriska DID beat Bec Noir it would only be AFTER he killed the rest of the trolls

Because it's Bec "teleport behind you nothing personnel" Noir, he would kill the weakest first

>>82458103
No? The whole point was that Gamzee was able to manipulate Terezi by blinding her with her own unresolved feelings towards Vriska into railroading the situation to a binary. Like that's why Terezi crumbled into self-doubt afterwards.

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>>82458144
what if it's consensual?

>>82458213

N-no.

But I am a little bothered by the surprising lack of good fiction or a good booru. As someone who came from the unnameable show fandom, the ease with which I can find reading material is really something. I honestly thought there would be more stuff. Granted, a lot of the links I found are now dead, so maybe I'm just picking over the ashes.

What's the /hst/ general consensus on writefags anyway?

>>82458104
no, none whatsoever. she had absolutely nothing positive to say about him whatsoever other than his physical appearance whatsoever. she explicitly states disliking pretty much everything else about him several times.
any interaction they had was negative, or her wanting to fuck him.

the worst thing about their relationship is he straight up ASKS her if she is in to him, she says no, then she throws a fit because he had the gall to BELIEVE HER.

>>82458144
Yes it is.

>>82458279
That's an impossible argument for me to counter since Hussie made Vriska the savior of all mankind

Doc Scratch's explanation to the viewer however is about Terezi going against her gut and killing Vriska for being a liability

There's also a point to be made in that Vriska was an arrogant moron who could have used her luck powers to escape but instead used them to make the coin land on the scratched side

>>82458347
>Granted, a lot of the links I found are now dead
tell me about it
>writerfags website is now dead
>veil life is gone forever
I mean it wasn't the greatest fic but now it's just totally gone