New Cartoon Network Pilots

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Is that a new waifu I spy?

>>82433820
The Apple and Onion looks fun

Bottom's Butte is a bit too tumblr like

>>82433820
I feel so old watching this.

>Apple and Onion
>from someone who worked on TAWoG
They sure love traveling by toliets

>>82434015
Explain.

>>82433820
>More flat pastel color rounded edge animation
It's like every single cartoon on CN is made by one person

fucking awful

>>82433820
Both look bad.
>B-but Apple and Onion loo-

3/4ths perspective only flat thin outline rounded pastel palette cartoon about two wacky friends doing wacky things. It's the same shit as the other one.

They're bad.

>>82434046
In regards to Bottom's butte, I guess it's the dialogue that gets to me the most. It reminds me so much of how the folks in theater and drama classes used to talk. The sort of not-quite-pretentious-but-damn-it-your-getting-there sort of language.

The colors also give off the impression that they are trying to revive something 80s/90s into a modern cartoon.

Who's Onion's VA? I can't remember where I've heard it from.

>>82434141
Just remembered as I hit Submit. Richard Ayoade, Moss from The IT Crowd

>>82434115
it is possible that something can lack in concept but succeed in execution

>>82434134

that has nothing to do with tumblr

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>>82433909
jesus the whole short is filled with these strangely deliberate risque shots

Still waiting for porn of the pink thing.

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>>82433820
Wow, I gotta say Apple and Onion was really fucking good. It's like Pickle and Peanut, but with all the shitty parts surgically removed.

I want to hatefuck Beverly out of existence.

>>82434188
Why are you defending tumlbr?

>>82433909
>>82434219
Well, now I know these shows will crush.

>>82434186
But neither succeed. They're meant to be like 20 something slacker people but they come off feeling like kindergardeners in both pilots (except the literal Eileen clone) and the humor stylings literally feel the same. Neither do this premise in a way that I feel is distinct from each other. And that's bad considering how many of these shows have that same premise but can actually execute it in a way that's unique and memorable.

Not to mention the butt ugly soft thin lined pastel art style is not helping in terms of just eye candy factor.

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>>82434015
>Bottom's Butte is a bit too tumblr like
Not really. I didn't detect any sjw messages at all. If there is a weakpoint to it its just the randomness and the lack of comedy, but if the writting gets tightened up it could end up like chowder.

>>82433820
Anyone else miss action cartoons?

>More CalArts garbage

Bottom's Butte is a bimbofication sequence that had its moneyshot ran into the fucking ground by making it 8:36 longer than it should be.

I miss Problem Solverz.

>>82434232

what the fuck are you talking about

Letting women make cartoons was a mistake.

>>82434494
No doubt.

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>>82434351
Goddamn yeah. Its probably the central reason I watch so much anime.

>>82433820
Bottom's butte looks like a cross between regular show and CN's short lived cartoons in the 2010's (like secret mountain fort awesome, or problem solverz). the art even looks similar to regular show.

apple and onion is cute, it deff reminds me of Gumball, it even got a few chuckles out of me.

i wish CN would have more cartoons with dynamic shots, instead of just 2 characters moving on a flat plane.

these both look fucking terrible. jesus christ CN

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>>82434232
He wasn't.

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>More cartoons in simplistic CalArts style about a couple of wacky friends

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>Another couple of generic cartoons that could fit in any universe, except they're ANIMALS or FOODS guys ain't that CRAZY

Fuck, can we just get a show that focuses on its themes or universe again?

Meh, at least these are just average instead of flat-out bad. I guess that's an improvement after the TTG/PPG fiascos.

>>82433820
>noodle arms
>pastel colors
>le wacky nerd character xd

thanks cal-arts

>>82434623

>Fuck, can we just get a show that focuses on its themes or universe again?

We already got one.

honestly they just need to stop giving the regular show people pilots specifically

>>82434682
>thanks adventure time

Fixed. Let's stop spreading cancerous memes and get to the real heart of the issue.

>>82434708

Well, yeah, but more is nice. One gem, two mehs, and two piles of shit is still pretty poor off.

>>82434713
The AJ one and Long Live the Royals were fine though. And the puppet one by Sam Marin was at least an attempt at something different (which I thought fit its off key humor)

3/5 isn't too bad of a record imo.

>Teacher gets too stressed out and moves back in with parents to do lazy shenanigans.
I literally know this person.

>>82434732
I actually agree considering how actually good Royals was but you gotta admit all of those pilots (sans Marin's and AJ kinda) were really just variations of Regular Show in all aspects

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:^y

>>82434806
needs that disgusted expression she does ~6 seconds in

>>82433820
Why do they all look like fucking Regular Show

>>82434789
AJ sure, but Sam's??? Sam's is more akin to like variety puppet shows like Muppets or other stuff like that which can't be further away from Regular Show if it tried. If anything, it's more aping that than anything RS did.

The others three are very much RS with a different coat of paint though despite me liking AJ.

>>82434831
sans means to exclude

>>82434844
Oh, well my bad then. Disregard that, I suck cocks yadda yadda.

>>82434806
I blame Broad City for this.

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>>82434826
i would but the video shits itself there for some reason

Bottom's Butte seems like Regular Show only even more surreal/episodic

Apple Onion was alright (very cliché though)

>>82434890
I was wondering if that was just a problem on my end. Dayum shame.

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>first one is animal-people, another wet-dream just for yiff faggots, also a few living objects/food items
>second is living objects/food cranked up to 11

Fuck's sake, can we at least get something different-looking even if it still has the same generic "silly characters having random adventures" setup, like ayys, robots or the more-obscure kind of fantasy shit? I'm generally not a fan of how these people write their characters and settings, but I could stomach it far better if it didn't have the exact same wrapper every fucking time.

It's not like it's hard or risky to do, either. Plenty of prior cartoons have proven you can use aliens/robots/weird fantasy shit beyond the Tolkien scope for your characters and settings not just passably, but even to such great effect that you get massive merch-buying autistic fanbases that last decades after the show stops airing.

It's just as safe as going the furfaggot route economically, if not way safer since xenophiliac heretics, clang-clang techpriests and all-around /tg/ nerds are all completely-unknown to soccer moms and other controversy-sensors, while furries are walking atom bombs of overwhelming autism and child-scarring depravity guaranteed to fuck your profits up if they catch wind of your work.

Branch out a little from the furfest and the "living objects" routines at least once, even if you keep the same plain old writing, for the love of god.

Apple and Onion was at least entertaining, if shallow. Bottom's Butte was terrible.

>>82434714
>lets stop spreading cancerous meme to spread ANOTHER shitty meme

>>82434986
I liked the hold up bit.

>>82434714
and where did Pen Ward go to college?

whether you like it or not, it all goes back to calarts.

>>82434919
it seemed like they were relying on the VAs to inject humor into a completely formulaic script and it...sort of worked? depending on who you ask?

>>82435023

>pen ward is fat
>therefore fat people are to blame for the current trends in animation

it all makes sense

>>82435023
Yeah so did Craig McCracken. And many other prominent heads that don't use the Adventure Time style

This is more akin to everyone trying to be Ren and Stimpy in the 90's but online reactionary communities weren't as big so dumbass memes like that wouldn't be spread as much.

>>82435060
these shorts don't even look like adventure time for fucks sake, they're both clear regular show ripoffs

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>>82434018
this
while watching this i had my first: "Is this what the kids are into?" thought.

THANKFULLY these are just pilots. It's likely they won't get picked up at all.

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>>82434757
storytime?

>>82435067
yeah
and guess where j.g. quintel went to school

>>82435067
>noodle arms
>"today was BUTT" tier writing
>pastels

I'll give you the Minty Lewis one because its literally an RS storyboarder making her own RS (complete with her own expy of the character she voices in RS) but the food people one is kind of its own league of trash more akin to AT with the writing style.

>>82435081
Nah, its what hipster manchildren are into. Kids aren't even watching cartoons these days, they're on YouTube watching people unbox shit/let's play.

>>82435105
the same school the guys from the iron giant went to?

>>82434984
>autism (internet definition)
>furry-related depravity

soccer moms are completely unaware of these issues

i don't know if you live in the one weird ass town where the PTA is run by 2009 era Something Awful posters or if you're just shitposting as usual

So am I the only person who thought Twelve Forever could have been really interesting if it were picked up?

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>>82434806

I'm surprised you're not criticising Apple and Onion's Adobe Flash Modern British quality animation

>>82435116
Don't bother, CalArts meme posters are either literal mouth breathers looking for a scapegoat or just shitposters.

>>82435114
Apple/Onion is someone from Gumball's crew.

>>82435128
Oh no, I really liked that one and thought it had great potential. But then, do you know what happened? The pilot's creator became one of the project heads for the PPG reboot.

Assuming Twelve Forever did get picked, I can't trust her anymore.

>>82435128

It would've but it's never going to because the creator is forever stained by the fact she works on the PPG reboot

>>82435133
i'm not criticizing it i'm just making a reference for drawfags

i think she's cute

>>82435114
>Kids aren't even watching cartoons these days
There is no reason to lie.

>>82435189
I see more kids excited over FNAF merch than anything related to CN and its only cause of LP association.

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>>82434806

>>82434806
I want this show to get picked up solely for the porn that will come from it.

>>82435081
First time for me too. Now I understand when my mom asked, "what the hell is this" when I was watching stuff.

Well, here's my opinion.
>The Pink goat chick is kinda hot, in a crazy way
>Same quirky meme speak as AT
>She's clearly very stupid
I don't think I can deal with that

Apple and Onion was ok but I'm noticing a pattern.
>Tall serious-ish character with a love interest he can never make a move on
>Short comical side kick
Just like
Mordecai and Rigby
Finn and Jake
Gumball and Darwin (Gumboo breaks the mold)
SwaySway and Buduce

I haven't seen it, but I'll bet 5 bucks that Pickle and Peanut show does it too.

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>>82435154
>>82435163

>Now working on the PPG reboot

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>>82433820
>first one is just the 2010 cartoon network artstyle while banking on big butt anthro girl to get their pilot to take off
>second one is just a shitty chinese bootleg animated show with english voice acting
>both of them are about slice of life silly hipsters

>>82434866
but broad city is great

>>82433820
>Bottom's Butte
Feels like it's trying too hard to be 'Quirky' and 'Wacky'. Too tryhard. Didn't laugh.
>Apple & Onion
Felt like a British version of Regular Show with Gumball. It was alright.

>>82434086
my thoughts exactly

aside from the whole wording it that precisely thing

>>82435574
>Hillary shilling episode
>Israel shilling episode
>"lol aren't we wacky" female "comedians"

>>82435305
>I haven't seen it, but I'll bet 5 bucks that Pickle and Peanut show does it too.

No, Pickle and Peanut are pretty much equally idiots.

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>Eye-searing 80s/90s palette? Check.
>Tumblr-tier SPESHUL SNOWFLAKE outfits and character designs? Double check.
>Foam Adventure-tier dialogue and voice acting? Triple check.
>Looks exactly like RS and is barely even animated? Quadruple check

Cartoon Network needs to fucking die already.

>>82435154
>>82435163
That's just sad to hear.

Real shame too. Feel like Twelve Forever could've been something. Not something huge or popular, but I liked it a good bit.

>>82433820
meh

>>82433820
What happened to shading characters exactly?

>>82435768
that takes more work

>>82435768
Shading take time and effort, something people nowadays are trying to cut back on so they can have more fun.

>>82433820
the first one is really bad

When will quirkiness go away?

I kind of like the food one

i'm already mourning the loss of uncle grandpa

>>82433820
is the burger man even a burger , or is he a bun wearing a brown jacket?

The first pilot was overwhelmingly shit. Other one was okay.

maybe I'm just finally getting to old to enjoy new cartoons.

>>82433820
>"Oh hey, the main character is a school teacher. This should be inter-"
>She automatically becomes a QUIRKY hyperactive reckless colorful goofball 'freespirit'
Well, I'm disappointed.

>>82435948
I actually like UG. Espically more so than this.

>>82433820
>humanoid animal/inanimate object characters getting involved in WACKY(tm) hijinks
wow so original

>>82433820
it feels like Regular Show divided into two lower quality show

>>82435971
>maybe I'm just finally getting to old to enjoy new cartoons.
Nah, these are both pretty fucking abominable.

AT ruined cartoons.

>>82436109
>AT ruined cartoons.

but these are regular show ripoffs

>>82433820
Why does the Peanut woman not wear a shirt? She's topless. Also, why does she look like a boy?

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>>82433820
Man that first one was shit.
The second one was decent enough. I was captivated by the random, but not too randomness of it all.
Both feel very meh, but I guess if I was held at gunpoint, I'd pick the second one.

>>82434714
Hey, AT saved us from CN Real.

>>82433820
>those pilots
the fuck
both are garbage and i see no potential there
>second one is literally pickle/peanut

>>82434806
>le wacky pink constantly changing hair styles and outfits grrrllll
pure tumblr bait.

It's like they sat down and said "how can we make a cartoon that's similar enough to Regular Show that no one has to try too hard but attracts the Steven Universe online fanbase"

>>82436278
>second one is literally pickle/peanut

And the first one has a talking anthropomorphic peanut named "Peanut".

why did CN just give up on miniseries?

>>82436322
chill we're cooking something up

>>82436185
Adventure Time is a trendsetter for this shit. Yes, on it's own its definitely good (at least those earlier seasons I watched) but like Ren and Stimpy before it, it set a president that many cartoons try to intimidate. Eventually its going to hit an apex where the general audience gets tired of it, variation comes back, and eventually a new trendsetter comes back to take its place.

>>82436402
>it set a president that many cartoons try to intimidate
yeah they really were a diamond dozen

>>82436322
>why did CN just give up on miniseries?
because they dont sell merchandise

Yeah people raved about OTGW and it won an emmy but how much money has it made them?

They want to make a new adventure time. Something that's easy to write for, not demanding to animate, and sells hats/backpacks/toys/shirts/etc.

>>82436322
They take time to make.
I'm sure they got shit planned, they just need to find the right lul to throw it in and get them tasty ratings.

Meanwhile, stuff like the Stevenbombs fill that void as they can be more thematic and tied together while not being an actual miniseries, just an arc of a current one like Stakes.

>>82436402
AT had a nice premise and setting though. An adventure story in a weird fantasy world where anything could happen. Regular Show worked on it's own, but what do these two pilots have to offer?

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>>82433820
>that first one
fucking why

>>82433820
>Eileen's voice actor the "creator" of a Regular Show ripoff where she does the same exact voice for a main character

This screams 'money grab' to me

>>82434806
Why doesn't she shave the wool around her shoulders and thighs? Is this supposed to be a metaphor for women who don't believe in shaving?

>>82433820
What are they saying the tight bun did to her I can't understand it

>>82434806
>>82436523
>she's a sheep

jesus CHRIST

>>82436537
Yes but she clearly has her torso, forearms and shins shaved

>>82436526
Eh I'm just going to operate on the assumption there saying she went crazy or something I think I heard the word brain in there

>>82433820
Gotta agree, these both are really just bland and pointless.
They have the same problem as the New PPG: there's no hook.
I mean, Bottom almost had a concept, but then they don't really seem to do shit with it and it just becomes the usual "friends hanging out" schlock.

12 Forever was the only one of these pilots to both make a world and have a purpose, being a kind of chalk-zone but with more themes of growing up.
That's the difference among the CN shows currently running, they either have a good reason to exist or they're "friends hanging out then shenanigans".
PPG, Clarence, TTGo! fall into the latter, but at least Clarence does it in a grounded world while TTGo! revels in it's DC fuckery.
This kinda leaves the new PPG and these pilot attempts trying to fill a spot that doesn't need to be filled.

>>82436537

She looks more like a Llama/Alpaca

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>>82434806

>>82433820
i think that's eugene mirman playing the hamburger, which is weird because gene from Bob's Burgers wears the burger suit a lot

>>82436578
Alrigh my verdict of bottems butte
I liked the slapstick at the start some of the best I have seen in a while
The main character is a little shit though perhaps largely because she's really a traigic tale it's fine to play things for laughs but untill the brother showing her what she did to the town it seemed like they weren't self aware enough to pull it off.
I loved the way they did the exposition and that she's not just crazy she's a fucking idiot.

Peanut seemed like a good straight man until that I know scene it went against the personality the character had so far and more importantly just dident fit.

Overall though I think the protagonist really let's this one down.

Onto the second pilot

>>82436713
Oh also bottems beutte is a horrible name

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Holy shit that first one was awful, I could only get 2 minutes in.

That's like literally everything wrong with current cartoons in less than 10 minutes

i'll watch anything with Richard Ayoade in it what a qt pie

>>82433820
Bottom's Butte has shit writing and Alle and Onion has shit art. I'd watch Apple and Onion if it stays this funny, but it's not really making much of an impression.

>>82433820
I want to fuck Beverly.

>>82433820
I think that Bottom's Butte was way funnier. It just had good writing and jokes. The concept doesn't matter as long as it's funny.

I agree that both look pretty bland and uninteresting but if the series has good writing and jokes it'll be worth watching.

>>82433820
I want to pull that sheep's hair while I'm fucking her retarded.

Nah, both are pretty bad. The first one was much worse though. Is it basically the story of a normal teacher that went loopy and now she's an insane NEET that gets away with terrible things?
The second one at least had the onion voiced by that dude from Darkplace/IT Crowd. Horribly bland though.

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>>82436809
>It just had good writing and jokes

>>82436815
>fucking her retarded
She's already retarded.

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>>82436809
>It just had good writing and jokes

Can't they just make the show about the arcade cabinent raising the human child already?

>>82436815
What about fucking her so hard she turns back into a teacher and there is no need for the series to continue?

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He escaped.

>>82436809
I was mildly amused the whole health drink premise, Beverly's cunt mom and the rabbit kids but I hate the main character so much even though she's hot.
she's an awful blend of randumb quirkiness and bad 80s fashion nostalgia wankery.
Very progressive of them to make a female character that has flaws, though.

>>82436809
Saying it was way funnier, or that it had good writing, is a real overstatement.
But I did enjoy it more than Apple and Onion. The latter had better jokes, but the animation was worse, and I didn't give a shit about characters/setting. Bottom's Butte had worse jokes, but I liked the characters more.
That said, both were just kind of okay for pilots, and I doubt I'd watch any of them. Unless BB somehow got better writing.

>>82436831
it did. it was funny. funnier than Regular Show has been in years.

>>82436851
>being a tripfag

>>82436886
>funnier than Regular Show has been in years
High bar there.
Regular Show thinks that "remember the 90s?" is the height of satire.

The realistic hands and feet in the second show weirds me out.

>>82436886
It wasn't funny, it was lazy and trying to cover already very well tread territory. The only redeeming factor is the ass, but the ass is more hair than ass so even that isn't much.

>>82436886
>tripfag

also,
>implying RS was ever funny in the first place

>>82436722
>>82436722
I think Apple and onion has a huge amount of potentional as long as it sticks to that theme of finding the right balence between maturity and joyfullness /co/ is right there alongside /toy/ /tg/ and /mlp/ in understanding that maturity does not have to mean only engaging in grown up activity's and I think it's high time that theme was properly explored

For the episode itself my only complaints are that the bit with copying the exact words of people and the copying the popcorn pops made the characters seem a bit to retarded the other copying shots were spot on.

I dident like the speech French fry gave it gives me fear that there going to go to far towards the childish side of the aforementioned balence. But the stuff after that mostly redemed it it seemed a little far fetched that just looking at the devastation was what caused them to start realising there actions have consequences but I can deal with that.

Its a concept that will work as a 1 season series though nothing more.

These two shorts really offer nothing new at all to cartoons. It's like these shows were budded from flower pots watered with Regular Show, like different colored tulips.

>>82436925
I suppose the fact that they showed some understanding of needing to do things like manage there money makes the self realisation a lot easier to understand auctualy

>>82436925
>>82436951
However it's worth noting my praise is pretty much all based on the perceived theme if it turned out to be just the plot of one episode then the show has pretty much nothing going for it outside of the theme tune

Both of those sucked. What the hell is wrong with you?

>>82436963
I can basically guarantee you that it's just the plot for one episode.

>>82436970
I agree. Liked Bottom's Butte more, though. Mostly because Apple and Onion had a little too much cringe. I so fucking tired of cringe in my cartoons.

>>82437052
Fucking this.
I cannot stand cringe/"embarrassing" moments in shows, and it was especially boring and old in the way Apple and Onion did it.

>>82436975
Man your probably right

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You guys are insane. This is fucking great!

apple and onion is fuckin amazing, you guys don't know what's good

not a fan of bottom's butte. A plot where basically the main characters poison people on purpose is something that's really hard to pull off in a pilot. give us a reason to like the characters before they do something fucked up

>>82433820
Is the bun just a metaphore for a blood clot

>>82437144
>>82437211
sausage party tier character design

>>82437338
It's a lot better

>>82437310
I think so, yes. She becomes "wacky" and "cooky" cause she has a blood clot in her brain from tying her hair too hard. When you say it like that it doesn't sound too fun. Like this women is crying for help through her shenanigans.

>>82437391
the legs on that apple are revolting in every possible aesthetic level

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RAEP

I want a show about Garlic Boy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6dxjp0kcqs

by the dad of Courage the cowardly dog.

Another Regular Show clone pilot?

"Regular Show in the future", "Regular Show with royal people", "Regular Show with two ladies", "Regular show with two food items" I mean for fuck's sake.

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>>82436809
>It just had good writing and jokes.

>>82434229
It's very British looking, which is okay.

I'd take Forever 12 over either of these. That wasn't really good either, but at least the premise was mildly imaginative.

>>82437802
/co/ only liked Twelve Forever for Butt Witch and you know it.

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>Every cartoon has to be AT or RS now
>Sometimes both

I didn't ask for this

>>82436289
Not everything you hate is tumblr.

>>82437825

You're getting stoner humor or lel so randumb XD, or else. I'd play along or who knows what they'll do.

They'll reboot another one of your favorite series

It's sad that netflix is the only one doing action shows anymore. I would rather watch Turbofast than this shit.

>>82436886
>Tripfag

Fuck off NewFag

>>82434566
>i wish CN would have more cartoons with dynamic shots, instead of just 2 characters moving on a flat plane.
But that would cost money! Heaven knows we can't spend money on anything good looking!

>>82437938
Why can't they just give us more Steven Universe.

>>82438157
Nice bait but I agree. At least its coming off hoatus next week

>>82434358
>one of the shows was made a former Gumball alumni
When will the CalArts meme end?

>>82434577
But this is Nick.

>>82435650
What does CN have to do with anything?

>>82438169
>Nice bait
It's really not. All the pilots are Regular Show style or Adventure Time style. Why is nobody trying for another adventure serial?

>>82438338
Because after DC Nation, CN believes there's no more profit in action-based cartoons.

>>82437656
What show was "regular show in the future"

>>82438351
And this is why Marvel is so ahead of DC.

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>>82438377

the 2nd one looks like it was made in go animate

>>82438351
Why do they think that?

What could have possibly happened to children in the last 10 years, after 30 of liking them that would make them say "fuck this"

>>82438396
>>82438377
In all due respect even though AA and US is shit they are doing the right thing by profiting off the movies by making them tie in with designs and what not.

DC doesn't have shit for the animated department that's giving them potential added revenue. Sure there's that JLA show coming but we haven't even seen it in action yet.

>>82438404
Because the problem is in the west the only way an action show survives is if it sells enough toys. The GL series was cancelled (despite the positive feedback) because stores still had GL toys left over from the shit movie and thought no one would want anymore. They weren't going to sell them so CN seeing they wouldn't be raking in a profit with the GL animated series they pulled the plug.

Same thing with Young Justice, they weren't happy when they found out most of the fanbase was young girls. Why? Because young girls wouldn't buy action figures.

Symbionic Titan went out for the same reason too. That's why it started getting dicked around in time slots.

Why the fuck do you think Ben 10 survived so long? That series sells a shit load of toys.

>>82438413
>Sure there's that JLA show coming but we haven't even seen it in action yet.
And it's going to be 11 minutes long.

>>82434115
>3/4ths perspective only flat thin outline rounded pastel palette cartoon about two wacky friends doing wacky things. It's the same shit as the other one.

Oh, fuck off. A&O has actually good writing unlike the other short.

Not every show has to be wildly different than the norm in order to be good.

>haha you love french fry because she's a girl
>I KNOW

ok... ok Apple and Onion is pretty good

if it gets picked up i do hope they retool the art style though

>>82433820
>Bottom's Butte
2/10

A prime example of why animators should animate, and writers should write. When animators get free reign over their stuff, you get nonsensical, unoriginal, juvenile stuff like this. It could have been forgiven if it was fun, but it's not. It's like it has a vague idea of what "fun" is supposed to look like, so they cram all of that in instead of interesting characters or plot.

>Apple & Onion
6/10

A lot like so many other shows on the air right now, and while it doesn't add anything new to the formula, it doesn't really subtract from it either. Main characters are offbeat enough to be intriguing, but latter half became too reliant on "awkward situation" humor.

Would not greenlight either of these to series.

>>82438643
>When animators get free reign over their stuff, you get nonsensical, unoriginal, juvenile stuff like this.

nah man, watch some more animated shorts sometime. i don't disagree with you in general though.

>>82438672
Shit, haven't gotten a lot of sleep. I meant free reign over series; I know these are just pilots, but they're meant to be the starting point of a series. I love a lot of animated shorts; some animators can do a lot with that. For some reason, when it goes to longer works like features and television shows, the "animator-writer" approach more often than not fails.

We need more cartoons with robot protagonists
Except for MLaaTR, most of them have been forgettable (Robot Boy) or just plain forgotten (Robotomy)

>>82433820
More stiff, straight up standing characters like a ruler, and sterile animation from CN, not surprised.

>>82438846
Just hope it's not something boring PLUS unwatchable like Whatever Happened to Robot Jones.

>>82439092
I'm gonna try my best with my stuff I have planned.
I'm not happy with most robot representation in children's media these days and I aim to change that.

>>82435116
It's kind of funny that these were the actual people John K was bashing when he came up with the term "CalArts Style". More proof that it literally just means "artstyle I don't like" at this point.

>>82433820

So wait, is Bottom's Butte about a llama girl that was turned into a retard due to lack of blood flow to her brain or something?

That's... Kind of sad, considering she was a respectable teacher. Why not just make her a teacher that has to act like a normal person but then needs to unwind without ruining her reputation? It'd make sense as to why she colors her fur pink when not on the job.

>>82439286
I agree the premise is actually kinda depressing if you think about it.

>>82439286
>>82439295
and why is peanut eileen enabling this?

actually, if this was an adult swim show and the premise was all about how fucked up this is then it might have some potential. that shitty fucking style needs to change though, it's such a carbon copy of RS.

>>82436925
>/co/ is right there alongside /toy/ /tg/ and /mlp/ in understanding that maturity does not have to mean only engaging in grown up activity's
Keep dreaming, pal.

>>82439295
Yeah. It's not like she looked depressed when she was a teacher. She looked happy enough.

But now that she's a retard she lives in a shitty mansion no one takes care of, none of her past students want anything to do with her, and her family hates her.

She might SEEM happy, but it feels more like she either does not know any better anymore, or her attempt at wacky humor is more her crying for help.

God that's sad as hell.

>>82439321
With just a few lines of dialogue you could easily interperate Peanut as an incompetent psychological caretaker trying to help her cope. When she talks to her it almost seems like she has to think about what she says and dumbs down her words so that she can understand.

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>a normal person living a happy life goes insane, loses their job, and moves in with family that hates them
>is also a danger to everyone around them but is too dumb to realize it

What kind of fucking show is this?

>>82439511
A show that honestly could have gone somewhere if it were more adult oriented and focused on the depressing aspect of her situation.

But as is? It just doesn't really go anywhere. You put the poor girl at the bottom where she has no hope of getting back to normal because her mind is irreversibly damaged.

But hey, imagine all of the horrifically sad episodes that could happen!

>Butte drinks some sort of tonic that helps her regain her past sanity, but she has to keep drinking it. It helps her regain her job and become a respected member of society.
>The sane Butte becomes terrified that if the drink wears off before she drinks her next dose, she'll return to being a retard and never be herself again.

>>82439599
Come now anon, you just know this show would never have the maturity to tackle thoss kinds of episodes.

>>82439624
Oh I know, it's just sad to think about.

>In the end, she runs out of tonic and becomes a retard again, much to her initial horror.
>To rub in the salt, Butte's retarded persona begins shoving in some terrible message of "I'm better this way. I should just be myself!" and she never drinks the tonic again.

>>82439331
I like "crying for help."
It's crying out for an Adult Swim cartoon already.

>>82437890
Bottom's Butte is pretty decidedly Tumblr tier though.

>chubby female protagonist
>wacky and constantly changing wardrobe and hairdo
>constant acting cooky and saying/doing whatever comes to mind
They're just baiting the type of people who have tumblr blogs, post gifsets of cartoons (ie. free advertisement), and will say shit like BEVERLEY IS MY SPIRIT ANIMAL

>>82439331
God imagine how some of her students must feel. Some might have really liked her. Perhaps she tutored them or was willing to help them with problems and they had a real connection with her.

And now they see her like this and it's so hard for them to compare her to her former self. So all they can really do is try to ignore her so it doesn't hurt to think about it.

>>82439734
>Butte was once a respectable, well dressed, and well adjusted teacher who was probably really good at her job.
>She develops a blood clot, becomes retarded, and now acts 'tumblr tier'.

Says a lot, doesn't it?

>>82439624
I dunno serious themes seem popular right now mlp just had a character attempt suicide

>>82439331
Crying for help is a fine way to go it generally works but the idea of her just no longer having the mental capacity to realise how far she has fallen works even better.

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I kinda what this Bottom's Butte show to get greenlit now just so I can watch it through this sad lens. Thanks /co/.

>>82433820
have no words to explain how shit i find these.

>>82437144
Those shoes are cringeworthy.

Apple and onion is just a less creative bootleg of Pickle and Peanut.

Both of them are bland looking and will be dated in 20 years.

>>82440651
The moment I saw the name I thought it was a Pickle and Peanut copy. It's basically just a toned-down british version of it.

>>82440651
>dated in 20 years

They look like shit now

>>82433820
First was just ugh.

I like the writing of the second short but the story was pretty boring and...well the less said about the art the better perhaps.

>>82440651
most things tend to be dated after 20 years

>>82433820
>Bottom's Butte.
Intro is bad.
Character design is meh.
Dialogue is strange.
Not sure what they are trying for with this.
Colours are a bit ugh.

>Apple and Onion
Food based show?
Another one with bleh colours.
Dialogue seems a bit better.
Humor is better than Bottom's Butte.

Apple and Onion is the better of the pilots.

>>82435092
it's not my story to tell anon I don't think it would be appropriate to tell someone else's life story.

>>82439331
>>82439321
>>82439599

Yeah, I think the premise of a show whose protagonist is literally brain damaged seems like it would be interesting. Especially if it's something low-key, like, if you interacted with her for just five minutes or so she'd seem fine, just a bit dumb, but then eventually your realize oh shit this woman it literally incapable of thinking through the consequences of her actions. Making it an otherwise healthy-seeming adult woman fits well for it, I think, since with a kid it'd just be way more tragic and with a guy it'd be too cliche, guys are always the mentally challenged ones in media these days. I wouldn't make it 100% tragedy, still keep a good lot of humor in there, just undercut it with these moments of "ha ha oh fuck i feel bad now". It could still be enjoyable and compelling if you did it right.

And some Anon on 4chan would do a greentext story about her getting herself knocked up or something.

>>82434806
r34 when ?

>>82439043
Not every CN show is Family Guy.

>>82438540
>It's okay to be lazy and accept the homogenous art style if all you have going for is le quirky British "writing"

Wew

>>82434188
>>82434134
He also forgot to mention how the protag tries to escape her problems by just ignoring it, and in return makes it worse. But hey IT ALL JUST JUST WORKS OUT IN THE END RIGHT?!

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>>82442956
>Hey friend that enables my destructive tendencies, lets sell our mansion's horrible dirty pool water as a "health drink!"

>>82443032
>Hey you know this is dirty pool water right?
>No no its fine its fine
>Hey this dirty pool water is making everyone sick
>No stop telling me im wrong
>Yeah I guess we should do something
>Lets make a hospital and profit off of that instead what could possibly go wrong
>nothing went wrong
Im okay if someone gets what's coming to them in the end but tumblr usually likes it when their protag gets off freely no matter what the fuck they did.

>>82443219
>Im okay if someone gets what's coming to them in the end but tumblr usually likes it when their protag gets off freely no matter what the fuck they did.

What? Since when has this been a "tumblr" thing? People in general besides Enter-tier losers don't obsess over cartoon characters being "justly punished"

Apple and Onion needs a better art style, but it was endearing and funny.

Bottom's Butte needs a full overhaul in the story to be watchable.

>>82443409
The worst thing about Apple and Onion was the artstyle to be sure, I'd pick it over the other show tenfold.

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Name one (eins) thing worse than people on /co/ who will look for any excuse to talk about tumblr.

>>82443485
People on /co/ who will look for any excuse to talk about CalArts. But they're both interchangeable to be honest.

>>82433820
Where there other new pilots besides this? Seems pretty small compared to last year that had like 4 or 5 (including the OTGW pilot).

Uncle Grandpa deserved a final season where shit gets taken up to the next degree of endearingly weird. Origin stories, gainax endings, disjointed narratives, saving the goddamn universe, that sort of deal, UG style.

actually those pilots are not that bad, but we need more diversity in the art styles of cartoons, because i'm sincerely tired of the "Noodle Arms" now.

>>82434219
i think you're just a pervert

>>82437656
"Regular Show starring Bigfoot and The Loch Ness Monster" was kind of shit, but I liked some of the sight gags in "Regular Show's Infinite Summer".

>>82443844
There aren't that many shows with noodle limb though.

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here's a guide for /co/

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>>82444168

>>82444168
Nice weather we're having, huh?

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I wanna fuck the pink sheep thing.

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The question is what would you guys WANT to see on CN? If you could fix these pilots, what would you add/remove and why?

>>82444667
I want them to be anti-SJW.

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>>82437144
I was listening to Coming Undone by Korn once I clicked on the webcam now I can't stop laughing.

>>82444667
A show with likable characters, a healthy mix of comedy and action, and an overarching plot that isn't really the main focus so most episodes can be enjoyed in any order to make is easily accessible to anyone.
That or just put MegasXLR back on.

>>82444794
But anon, tumblr would never agree to that!

Tumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblr?tumblrtumblr? Tumblr! Tumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblrtumblr.

>>82433820
Apple & Onion is the superior one. Bottom's Butte just didn't make me laugh once and even though Beverly is cute she's kinda annoying.

Also Beverly's dad(?) kinda sounds like Bob Belcher, is it the same actor? I don't if theirs anyone else that can replicate that voice.

>>82433820
Porn when

>>82444565
Technically it's a Llama, bruh.

>>82434134
Neither remotely relate to tumblr.

>>82445385

Im contacting my secret network of furry artists right at this moment.

>>82444667
>Bottom's Butte
Scrap the shitty "anthro animals and inanimate objects for characters" shtick. It just makes it obviously a Regular Show ripoff.

Give the characters some direction and purpose. Yeah she was a teacher who went dumb/crazy but what's she doing now besides sitting on her ass? What's Peanut's deal and why does he do nothing with Bev all day?

Regular show is funny because "two lazy assholes working a lame job with an overbearing boss" would be funny enough on it's own, the random shit is just icing. "unemployed deadbeats sitting in their mom's house" doesn't exactly scream 'entertaining' to me, if anything I side with her angry mom for being pissed that her daughter's life got all fucked up for apparently no reason.

>Apple and Onion
Tone down some of the food characters. Apple, Onion, French Fry, and pretty much all the party goers are good. A lot of the background/other characters (Burrito guy, steak cop, Beef Jerky) are too detailed and come across as grotesque.

It had some good gags and one liners but other than that I cant' really imagine a full series from the characters. Is every episode about them trying to be more adult? Because them being so childish seems to overwhelm their characters.

>>82445600
>"two lazy assholes working a lame job with an overbearing boss"
>the girl version of Regular Show has the characters not working at all and the main antagonist is their Mom
Not even slightly surprising

I feel like Apple and Onion is trying to be something like Flight of The Conchords for kids (but fails along the way)? Which sounds like it could be interesting but it hasnt been pulled off well. If it had some more time to get its shit together it could be good.

>Teacher gets a mental breakdown that turns her into a womanchild.
That's a bummer, dude.

So the general consensus is that Bottom's Butte could only work as being reworked into a tragedy that disguises itself as comedy, and that Apple and Onion need better animation/character design, but the general idea is something that has potential?

Apple and Onion looks like some piece of shit flash cartoon that would go around in emails like 15 years ago.

>>82433820
These all look so fucking awful

>>82445919
Apple and Onion is pretty awful looking, but it made me laugh a few times and the characters are a slightly different flavor of goofball than the usual CN fair.

>>82446162
>and the characters are a slightly different flavor of goofball than the usual CN fair.

They're literally Gumball and Darwin with a couple traits exchanged and aged up to be silly hipsters instead of children. Which is ironic cause I feel like it would work better if they were children.

>>82445919
If Bottom's Butte was on on [as] or Netflix I could see it probably using it's premise better

But this right here is garbage

On the other side of the animation ghetto, how do these stand against Nick's recent pilots?

Tall Tales of Urchin could be quite adequate and fill the same spot that Flapjack did.

Meat Pie I remember liking a lot, mostly because the main character was such a dick.

The rest were outstandingly average to just bad.

>>82435133
Is that wojack on the painting?

>>82446254

Whoa I just watched the Urchin pilot and I loved every second of it.

>>82436809
Anon, just admit you wanna fuck the alpaca woman, you're in good company we'll all judge you.

>>82445919
>Bottom's Butte could only work as being reworked into a tragedy that disguises itself as comedy
but then it's just a Bojack ripoff instead of a Regular Show ripoff

What if Beverly randomly went insane and was evenly a responsible, good teacher(almost Mrs Frizz) and also a completely insane and destructive wackjob?

>>82447101
Oh god yes. The show would be infinitely funnier if she was still a teacher (with Peanut as a TA or something) and she's acting like a nutjob but he and the kids kind of just go with it.

And we've hit rock bottom with CN pilots. The earlier crops were hit or miss, but they weren't bad, and they were mostly original.

I genuinely want to see Lakewood Plaza as its own series, and I hope that the game wasn't a one off thing.

Even Forever 12 had an original premise and also Butt Witch who is objectively best girl.

>Apple & Onion
Dude, seriously, why do modern cartoons tend to be so fucking ugly?

>>82444667
i would increase the line width by like 5px

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>>82444168

I want to have sexual intercourse with Beverly

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>>82433820
calarts needs to stop

>>82443219
>tumblr

even people on tumblr are not fans of this

>>82434806
What did the intro say about the bun and what it do to make her pink?

>>82449790
She just dyed her hair like a retard.

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>>82442701 Knock knock, special delivery.

Who ordered wet and sweaty Sheep/Llama boobs?

>>82433820
They both suck
and the top one has the adventure time regular show look which you see to much these days
And the bottom on is like an uglier version of it

>>82433820
Why is everyone trying to be like regular show

>>82449898
Fuckin' ay that's nice.

>They all look like a mish-mosh of clarence and regular show
Where did originality go? Even with similar art-styles the original cartoon cartoons atleast retained their individuality amongst one another

the only thing i find cool in Bottom's Butte is there could be an episode where she goes back to being a teacher, that would be nice.

Also are they rich? Are they poor? i don't get it, her brother seems to be rich, and they live in a mansion, but everything is dirty and shitty

>>82450138
>back in my day

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>>82439599
Sounds like a reverse drinking episode.
all up to the 'drinking shows who you really are.' trope

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>>82436809
>It just had good writing and jokes.
I liked the high energy and the quick pacing but the writing and the comedy was nearly completely absent.

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>>82438404
>What could have possibly happened to children in the last 10 years, after 30 of liking them that would make them say "fuck this"
Video games.

What serialized adventure could possibly be greater than the one you make for yourself and/or watch someone one Twitch make for themeslves?

>Look at our wacky and social awkward main character who is just out to have some radical fun dudez
>She had an accident that made her clinically retarded
>But like she's pick and wacky now not like a stick in the mud teacher she once was haha

That's incredibly fucking creepy.

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>>82449898

>>82449898
uncensored version where?

>>82449898
you're a good person

>>82450868 Can I link to the off source original?

I can tell you it's on lulz dot net in an art thread there.

>>82449898

Thank you based drawfag.

>>82433820
holy shit, i knew apple and onion sounded and looked familiar. he made this gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKrYHLE8mDc

>>82436858
best of both videos

>>82450324
Oh go fuck yourself, just because nothing's original anymore doesn't mean it's appropriate to throw out the old baseless "Hurr you nine-deez kids are just nostalgiafags" argument

>>82433820
It's strange, but both of these give me a strong Adult Swim vibe

>>82438443
Wasent young justice more because advertisers only wanted to pay for the male audience but the networks still wanted extra money because of that female audience

>>82433820
I can see Apple and onion tuning out of ideas for characters and having to turn into food fight 2 special snowflake boogaloo to have enough foodstuffs for new characters to be

>>82449898
N-nigga

I need art of that booty

>>82451777
Nothing was ever original though.

They were both okay, could have been a lot worse. I admit I liked Bottom's Butte slightly better, it was a bit more original.

My main issue with both is that I don't see any premise to either beyond "two goofy friends in a world with a crazy artstyle"