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>I want to get off of Hugo Strange's Wild Ride Edition

2.19: "Azrael" [May 2nd]
>Gordon and Bruce question Professor Strange about Project Chimera, which leads Strange to send the newly resurrected Galavan to confront Gordon. Meanwhile, Nygma investigates who Professor Strange is.

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Streams:
http://www.stream2watch.co/live-tv/us/fox-live-stream

http://tvtoss.com/watch/player.php?ch_id=1888756506&ctd=2&t=U.S.A%20TV%20Channels
We're about 45 bongs to showtime. (if links don't work, please post ones that you're watching on!)

Miss an episode? Netflix has all of Season 1 available to watch. Miss one this season? Our pastebin below has links to a site to watch on!

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Check out our GCPD issued pastebin for the show features some links and stuff to previous episode discussions and social media accounts for the cast and stuff. I've bumped Season 1 into it's own pastebin so we've got a nice clean slate for spaghetti to fall on.

http://pastebin.com/G6iszJuZ

Archive Moe is dead af, but I'm working on restoring previous discussion threads. Please bear with me!
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>>82422456
WE ASSASSIN'S CREED NOW
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>>82422456
>Archive Moe is dead af, but I'm working on restoring previous discussion threads
Are you? Are you really?
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>>82422590
Actually yeah I did! A good majority of our previous discussion threads work now with desustorage links. As long as we don't get fucked again, they should be ok!

Unfortunately I can't seem to find the first few episode discussions for whatever reason. I'm still looking.
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>>82422456
She's so full of shit.
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Bump for 30 minutes
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>>82423121
this
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>>82422456
ARE YOU READY
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Galavan's about to go tekken 2 on all your asses.
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I swear I've seen a ton of arguments on /co/ this week with Flash fans literally saying Gotham is worse than Supergirl and calling it "boring."

Serious question: are these people brain damaged?
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se viene
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>>82423608
They're just butthurt because Gotham is getting sudden praise, and the opposite for Flash.

Personally i love Flash and Gotham.
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Wish list for characters to show up in Gotham?
Mine are
>Ventriloquist
>Owls
>Professor Pyg
>Doctor Hurt
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>>82423729
Lay off that owl shit already.
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I got a tv downstairs but I'd rather get comfy and watch with you guys. Thanks for the stream links.
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>>82423711
Flash has gotten REALLY bad recently, and even Season 1 had problems but was good on the whole. On the other hand, some people think Season 1 of Gotham was weak (debatable) but Season 2 has been pretty flawless.
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>>82423729
I don't see Pyg or Hurt appearing but a Wesker a la Harvey Dent would be pretty good. Stick with the whole reserved guy with sudden outbursts of insanity.
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>>82423729
Birthday boy
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look at these two handsome fellows they're gonna make some lucky ladies very happy
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>>82423771
Flamingo was on the show desu
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>>82423729
It's strange to me that we got Flamingo before Professor Pyg on this show.
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What was the point of Leslie being pregnant?

Yeah, her actor was, but if they were never gonna include the kid, why mention it at all?
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>>82423776
Penguin's actor, Robin Lord Taylor, is gay.
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>>82423752
Nah, they do need to touch on them. I don't want them going full Court but I do want to see them have something to do with Wayne Enterprises.

However, my biggest hope for Gotham is that they spend the whole series building on the mystery of who really killed the Waynes, only for Bruce to find out it was Joe Chill, a random criminal with no ties to anybody.
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>>82423776
They look like such bros.
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>>82423729

Ventriloquist, Mad Hatter, Pyg, and, if the budget can do them decently, Man-Bat and Clayface.
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>>82423824
Did I say you could talk boy?
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>>82423834
Court of Owls is the dumbest thing to happen to batman.
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>>82423804
Theres a difference between flamboyant cannibal and pic related
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>>82423834

That would be the biggest fuck you.

>>82423864
Well Mr. Freeze has taught us that they can do it if they want to.
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>>82423834
He already found out. It was matches Malone who was hired to do so by hurt
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>>82423824
What a dumb complaint.
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stream 2 is offline and the other link doesn't work
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>>82423875

Sorry sir...
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>>82423877
Nah that was hurt and his group
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>>82423930
g8 b8 m8
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>>82423824
James Gordon Jr.
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>>82423904
This is the stream I'm using.
http://www.zoptv.com/live/fox
It's like a minute behind, but it works for me.
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>>82423864
They don't even need to do Man-Bat, just have Langstrom show up as a reseaecher or something.

>>82423824
Leslie has Jim Junior. Barbara has Barbara. Crazywaifu has sane daughter and Sane waifu has crazy bitter son.
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>>82423953
thanks
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>>82423864
I honestly don't want Man-Bat and Clayface to appear as anything other than bit appearances since both were normal people who transformed during batman's time.
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>>82422665
She has nice pits though
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WE ON
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I'm so happy I didn't die to a tornado so I can watch this show now.
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>>82423951
>>82423975
The baby's already been miscarried.
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>>82423877
no it wasn't. It made perfect sense.
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YEAHHH BITCHES
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Holy christ.
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This actor is going all out and I love it.
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>>82424008

Or so we're TOLD.
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Damn, my cable company picked a shit time to fuck up.
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>Mad as a Hatter
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he's mad hatter?
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Man, I missed this show. I am going to go through withdrawls after the season ends.
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Cromwell's seen better days
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>hatter

heh
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Did she just say "mad as a hatter"?
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god damn I love BD Wong in this
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>>82424045

Same here, this summer is going to be rough.
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>>82424009
wow the illuminati was in gotham all along wow.
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>he's a hatter

Confirmed for Mad Hatter.
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>MAD AS A HATTER
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Every Scene with Hugo Strange is automatically 10/10
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>>82424063
>Whaaaat is it
>that eyebow cock

Jesus christ he's perfect
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I miss anything?
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>>82424108

Pull up a chair. Just started.
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Man this guy is good.
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Man, I kind of like this Pinewood Farms plot

Why hasn't anybody ever done weird doctor/savior stuff with Thomas before
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>>82424108

Galavan is fucking insane and Gordon is an idiot who went straight to Strange to air his suspicions.
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Yo this guy can act.
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Galavan losin it, also
>those Batman '66 camera angles
Based

>>82423987
Man-Bat doesn't work without Batman since the mistaken identity is a big deal, but there's no reason Clayface needs to be tied to Batman. We only see Clayface get turned during Batman's tenure since he was created after Batman and had to be written into the story
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>>82424108
Galavan is back but doesn't have any memories of who he is. Instead, his mind is bringing back text from the Will of Dumas. Some old book about his family's history. He is psychotic.
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>why
>are
>you
>hhhere
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based strange
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>>82424008
Allegedly. We didn't see it. No body no death.
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>>82424146

It'd be easy to have a Kirk Langstrom namedrop or just have him appear as another scientist.
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>>82424156
FUCK YES
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Strange is like something out of Garth Marenghi's Darkplace.

>So just what happened between you and this Renwick customerrrrrrrrr...
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Wong is going all out with the vocal fry.
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Rused.
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>Anthrax letter


>>82424184
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Have some failed mutations or something
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>>82424203

I know isn't it wonderful
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Hah, Hugo got played.
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Clearly Strange is a man who does not like being rused

>Nygma is the Arkham peacekeeper

kek or keks
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>Eddie playing mom

I love it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of8kY_IbYq4
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Gordon confronting another psychopath without backup. The guy has a death wish.
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Luuuuucyyyy! You got some 'splainin to do!
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BASED RIDDLE MAN
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B A S E D R I D D L E M A N
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God damn everyone in this show is wonderful
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Eddie is Patch Adams
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Finally Cory gets to ham it up as much as the rest of the cast
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Bravo Eddie
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God, I'd kill to play a character on this show. It looks like it would be so much fun.
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RIDDLER'S REVENGE
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>>82424248
>implying Gordon isn't a psychopath himself

I love this take on Jim.
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>>82424248

It worked didn't it

But yes he totally does
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>"Nobody beats me."
>"I did....see you in never, Ed."

Coming from the man who used to see him as a friend. Fuck this man is cold.
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>less then 24 hours and Nygma is already on his way out of Arkham
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Does everyone have deep, growly voices on this show?

And, oh, yeah, it's opportunity.
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>>82424289

Gotham makes everyone fucking insane in one way or another. Gordon just is one of the few people who recognizes that and accepts it.
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Why can't get a Riddler like this in the comics?
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>all streams are laggy shit

as usual.
guess I'll just wait till the episode's over then and download it later.
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How many takes did they do for that face lick? That was hilarious.
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Okay that was pretty fucking spooky
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>>82422456
>Azrael before Batman even exists
Are you fucking kidding me here?
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>Ed works for Strange
Please let this happen
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>>82424371
Because muh Joker needs more stories

Riddler is just totally lame, man. He just tells riddles! How dumb!
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Yo, this is already in the running for best episode of this season as far as I'm concerned

Everybody's going full glazed ham and I love it
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>>82424371
because, as has been mentioned time and time again, writers fucking hate thinking up riddles for him
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Lol has Hugo been just feeding Galavan interns?
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3 spooky 6 me
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>>82424392

Oh please it's not like they're using JP or Knightfall here.
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>>82424403
>Everybody's going full glazed ham and I love it

>>82424409

They're the doctors who were down there when he woke up.
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>>82424405
It's not that hard
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>>82424392
>NOT MUH BATMAN

You DO realize Azrael was a legacy character already, right? The Azrael you know was never the first one. Dumbshit.
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>>82424436
go apply for a job at DC then and make it happen
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>>82424432

Whoops, didn't mean to quote that first greentext
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>>82424392
There have been many people who were Azrael before Batman. Centuries before.
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Azrael smash
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>>82424392

Azrael's a title, hombre

There were any Azrael's before Batman
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BASED RUSEMASTER STRANGE.
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>>82424392
Welcome to gotham, Enjoy the ride.

Also Azrael is a title and they have been operating for centuries
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>call me son one more time
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All these dutch angles...
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>>82424392
>They made Green Lantern a white guy? WTF?
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He's in great shape for a man his age.
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You know I was kind of hoping they'd bring in some supernatural shenanigans here, but I like the idea of this just being Strange fucking with his head too.
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you think the actors on Gotham even do the work for the paycheck, seems like they are having the times of their careers on this show
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>ywn lick riddler's face
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>>82424392
Who the fuck do you think Azrael is dickeater? Azrael was a title passed down by the Order. Hugo is using the Azrael story to give Galavan a new identity.

This isn't hard. Watch the fucking show.
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Strange is a fucking mastermind.
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God i wish Hugo winked at her just now.
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Peabody is getting pretty fed up with this shit.
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>>82424455
I already looked into it, I don't have seven years of business experience.
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Even Peabody is creeped the fuck out by Strange.
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>>82424515

Wouldn't you?

Its the acting equivalent of tying a towel around your neck and jumping off the couch.
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Brucey wants to go rouge. Batman style.
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>>82424515
It seem like such play, doesn't it? Like they would get the scripts and giggle all the way through while reading them.
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Give this wardrobe designer an award. Set designer too.
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JUSTICE.
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>Bruce learning the law doesn't cover anything.
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This fucking setup for Bruce becoming Batman never ceases to be amazing
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>>82424548

Yeah but the people on the CW verse shows talk about how happy they are to play superheroes, and yet they suck. Almost everyone on this show knocks it out of the goddamn park every week. ESPECIALLY here in the second season.
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TELL THAT TO SNYDER
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> The "you'll become evil too" cliche
Didn't bruce already rob people with Catwoman?

>>82424502
Tell me your joking
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Galavant looks like a smaller Jeff Goldblum.
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haha this is gonna make him crazier.
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>>82424583

It was the episode right after the mid-season finale where I finally thought "I can totally see this kid becoming Batman".
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>>82424593

E, just stole some cash and roughed up some guys.

Typical Saturday night in Gotham.
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I love how they're basically explaining why comic book characters are all crazy. You have to have a persona to even deal with everything.
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Ah, yes, the Clockwork Orange Treatment. Such horrorshow.
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I wanna see more mastermind villains like Strange and Sivanna.
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>>82424609

Strange is hoping it'll make him controllable though.
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>>82424601

APARTMENTS!
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>Nicholas D'Agosto
>main cast
>is only in one episode this season

kek
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Oh shit.

This is getting so good.
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HE RIDDLED THE DOOR THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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Anybody know if we're confirmed for a third season yet?
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>>82424626
Refresh my memory, what happened there?

>>82424593
In 2009 I heard a LOT of comments like that about the movie. Presumably, they were only familiar with the Justice League cartoon and didn't realize a Green Lantern = a space cop.
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>>82424632

That's the Hypercrisis in a nutshell, we as humans need to frame our reality in a narrative, just as Strange said.
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>>82424677

We are.

Aw poor. They're about to kill Amygdala.
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>>82424677
Yep. Third is a go.
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aw poor Amygdala, surprised he made it thislong
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Well that's one way to do it.
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>hits him with the case

THIS SHOW

bless it, god
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>he smacks him with the chest
My fucking sides
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>>82424685
>Refresh my memory, what happened there?

Leigh was interviewing him after he got kidnapped by the Order of Dumas.

>"I think people can be more than one thing, don't you?"
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Holy kek
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Can't Diddle the Riddle
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>He hits him with the case
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Poor crazy bastard.
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gotham is goat
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>Hits him with the damn case.
Well played Gotham, well played...
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That's kind of a little sword.
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"That case will give you everything you need."

Uses the entire case.

Love it!
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Strange is collecting these supervillains like pokemon.
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>>82424696
Can't kill him. Comic immunity.

>>82424691
And people say Gotham isn't the most faithful show to the comics.
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>>82424551
>Brucey wants to go rouge.
>rouge
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>hits him with the case
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What a show, anons, what a show
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>>82424593
You can return money. You can't return a life you've taken.
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>>82424736

Against all odds, this became the most consistently entertaining comic book show on television

I will never not be surpirsed
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>>82424763

>Comic immunity.

Just like Maroni, right?
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>uses the entire case

Galavan. We love you.
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>>82424747
Its a 1 handed sword. Not everything is Excalibur.
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>>82424765
I'd go Rouge and never come back.
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>tfw eating cheesy double beef burritos right now
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>>82424791
Yeah I enjoy this show more than The Flash at this point ironically enough.
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WHERE IS LUCIFER?
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>>82424809
Was Excalibur not one-handed?
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>>82424832

Ended last week.

Don't worry, its getting a second season.
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>>82424830
See what happens when you don't have relationship crap or people acting stupidly for no reason?
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>>82424747

Shortswords are short swords.
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>>82424832
Last week's episode was the season finale. But, don't worry, it was renewed.
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>>82424805
Maroni's an easy out since he's part of an entire family. There just needs to be another Sal to take his place, like a son or a cousin.
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>>82424791
it's also somehow still perpetually underrated

maybe that's for the best. If it ever became popular it would probably resort to the pandering and nerdservice the Flash does.
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>>82424837
No. It was a broadsword.
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Do we have to watch H&D?
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We predator now
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>>82424830

I'm enjoying it way more than any of the other DC series.

Flash and Legends have both been huge disappointments and Supergirl was just "eh, it's okay".
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>>82424832

Season is over. We get a break before next season.
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>>82424879
I guess I've been playing too much Fire Emblem.
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>there will come a monday when Gotham will no longer play

i don't wanna live, /co/
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>>82424884

I'm giving it a shot. It sounds like fun.
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>That kowtowing to Bruce.
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That klepto chick is a qt
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Riddleman is gonna fuck the loony girl isn't he?
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That qt crazy girl. I want her to be mine and I want to fix her.
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>>82424894
>Supergirl was just "eh, it's okay".
Terrible taste. Supergirl is an insult to Superman family fans and people with any sort of intelligence.
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>>82424906

Gives me more time to catch up on toku at least.
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>>82424791
Why? Season 1 was tense as fuck and had a damn tight plot. It was less cartooney but it did Gotham street level stuff better than anything. Plus everything in season 1 had to build up to season 2; you can't have Nygma become Riddler unless you have Nygma first.
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>Maybe I will

Oh you.
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>>82424906

It will only be temporary my friend. Take heart! October will come again
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>Maybe I will one day
A little on the nose.
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>maybe I will one day

well I was too soon with the nerdservice
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>maybe I will one day
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>Maybe I will one day

Kek
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YOUR ANGEL OF DEATH AWAITS
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IT'S TIME MOTHERFUCKERS!
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>Riddler is gonna break into Indian Hill and free all the freaks to cover his escape

I'd buy it

Fuckin Azrael
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suit is bullet proof isn't it?
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Norton's schtick is licking things? I love it.
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The dude is wearing a metal suit or armor he shouldn't be that hard to hit.
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>black suit of metal armor


A dark...knight?
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Being Commissioner? You wish, Gordon.
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Haha Azrael's inspiring Bruce.
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He's moving through the shadows so fast! Like, like some kind of bat!
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Bruce is getting ideas.
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>>82424936
>Riddleman is gonna fuck the loony girl isn't he?
>gonna
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>Bruce gets inspired by Azrael
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clearly GCPD uses the same range instructors as The Empire
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BRUCE IS FEELING INSPIRED
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Inspiration
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....Are they making Azrael Bruce's inspiration for Batman?
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INSPIRATION!

at&tfu~
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>>82424995
Look at Bruce getting all inspired.
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Bruce thinking to himself, yeah, that's cool
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>>82424936
I would too.

>>82424940
Supergirl is a way better Superman show than Flash S2 is a Flash show. Watch start Supergirl on Episode 4; after the second half of that episode it's like a completely different show.
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BRUCIE GETTING IDEAS
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INFLUENCING THE YOUTH TO BECOME VIGILANTES
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>that look on Bruce's face
>"imagine if I did that shit and had bat ears too"
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>I am so stealing that guy's shtick...
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>Bruce influenced by Azreal's escape
I like it.
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>>82425029

Dude's also packed with bulletproof armor and inhumanly strong already. They're probably hitting him some but it's not doing shit.
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>>82424939
>wanting to fix her
>not embracing her for what makes her beautiful

You disgust me.
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"Needs a utility belt"

-Bruce
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>>82424904
It's a spell in fe isn't it?
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>Bruce getting more vigilante inspiration.

I LOVE IT!
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oh Jesus this fucking thread guys I love all you bastards
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>>82425016
Like some kind of Bat, man!

Fuck you boco.
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>>82425100

Gotham threads are great.
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Yes, father, I shall become a nutcase in a cape
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>Ballooman
Bruce: Hmm, maybe vigilantism works
>Spirit of the Goat
>Bruce: He sure does inspire fear i his enemies
>Azrael
Bruce: Whoa, jumig around in a cape and dark armor is awesome!

I love this show.
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>>82425050
IT KEEPS HAPPENING.
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HA HA! Suck it, Taylor Swift.
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>>82425092
Mostly thinking of stuff like
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JUMPMAN JUMPMAN JUMPMAN NIGGAS UP TO SUMTHIN'
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>>82425119

Gotham threads are the best threads.
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>>82425033
>he doesn't remember the Gotham Goat

>>82424954
>>82424957
>>82424958
>>82424963
>>82424964
I mean, if you didn't know the endgame of this series would you give this a second thought?

>this rap excercise commercial
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I love how gotham takes all the classic themes of batman and turns it on its head.
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I'd bitch slap the fuck out of bruce
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Woah this show is more entertaining than The Flash. I feel like we're the only ones realize this.
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Bruce doesn't like people talking shit about vigilantes.
>>
>I find you to be kind of a pain in the ass

He said what everyone thinks, MISTER Wayne
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>>82425120
Well at least Strange gave him the cape instead of Azrael making one himself
>>
>snarky bruce

YES
>>
ROM
>>
>I'm a concerned citizen

oh bruce
>>
Oh ho, Bruce has a mouth.
>>
>>82425151
It's because our humor is as sick as fuck and we are proud of it.
>>
Look at Barnes, not realizing that no one gives a fuck about what he says about anything.
>>
>>82425122

Bruce: Hmmm, maybe I can get Selena to wear a tight leather catsuit.
>>
>>82425169

Gotham actually delivers on its buildup in creative ways, has good actors all around, and incorporates aspects of the comics in meaningful ways rather than just hastily-pasted-together namedrops.
>>
Oh hey it's Penguin.
>>
oh, so Penguin has just left her there...
>>
GOTHAM NEEDS A HERO, BUT WHO?
>>
>>82425191

I like Barnes, but his obstinance is more of a hindrance than a help in Gotham with all this crazy shit popping out of the woodwork.
>>
Do you want ants, Oswald? Cuz thats how you get 'em!
>>
HAHA THAT SCENE WAS AWESOME GALAVANS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER
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>>82425203
It helps that everyone is insane and the writers revel in it.

Speaking of insane Hello Penguin
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Uh oh. He's starting to remember.
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>That Penguin dicktease
>>
YOOO that sequence was radical looking
>>
Pengy is off the deep end. More so than usual.

Is anyone on this show sane? Anyone?
>>
>>82425169
Flashfags refuse to watch it.

It's okay because a bunch of Normies watch Gotham too. It's on a major network so we've got a lot more viewers to back us up in ratings.
>>
>>82425169
That's because CWshit needs 20% of the runtime dedicated to the love interest, and another 20% teasing at the season's end reveal. Another 10-15% is generic filler like Cisco saying "Waaah I'm afraid of my powers".
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>that fucking Strange silhouette
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>>82425253
Bullock.
>>
>>82425253
Miss Peabody seems sane.
>>
THIS FUCKING SHOW
>>
>>82423608
People have had it out for this show since it was first announced. Many have given it a chance and either love it or it just isn't their cup of tea but others watched less than 10 minutes of the pilot and think they know everything about the show. When you give proof they're wrong they go into denial mode and have to say why the clip or image is bad showing they still know nothing about the show. This became the average situation, but once more people grew to like it anyone who exclusively likes another show goes berserk. It is the fate of every show, someone always has a hard on for one so rejects all others to the point they sound nonsensical. I enjoy more than one show but they can't seem to not make shit a contest.
>>
>We're all mad here

Oh yes indeed we are.

Strange is REALLY starting to lose it.

More than before, I mean.
>>
>quoting Alice in Wonderland

HATTER IMMINENT
>>
How the fuck does making someone the mad hatter help strange?
>>
MORE MAD HATTER REFERENCES
>>
Mad Hatter?
Strangeis just having so much fun.
>>
>>82425219
Good God, the smell. That's not going to be covered up by Lemon Pledge.
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>>82425033
He doesn't remember balloonman.
>>
OH FUCK JERVIS

THAT DUDE FROM EARLIER IN THE THREAD WAS RIGHT
>>
MAD HATTER CONFIRMED.
>>
OH MY GOD THIS IS WHY THE JOKER HAS MULTIPLE CHOICE ORIGINS
>>
Whoa whoa whoa! You can't just offhandedly introduce Mad Hatter like that!
>>
Deepest lore.
>>
What's with all the Mad-Hatter references?!
>>
Inb4 mad hatter
>>
>strange
WTF IS THIS SHOW THIS SHIT IS SO GOOD
>>
BD Wong is having so much fun and I fucking love it.
>>
Gotham is being overrun by liberals!
>>
>>82425296
He's just doing all of this for shits and giggles.
>>
>>82425256
I'm a Flashfag and I enjoy this show. It's not impossible to like more than one thing. Not everything is a console war.
>>
>we're all mad here
>>
>>82425253
Leslie and Alfred?>>82425256
>>
>>82425288

I didn't like the first season that much, but holy shit S2 is such a massive improvement in so many ways.
>>
>>82425296
>help
Strange doesn't even care, man, he's clearly going mad, or always has been.
>>
>>82425294
And I just let out a little girl giggle.

I love this show.
>>
God I love Galavan

The hero this story deserves.

>JAMES GORDON. YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY.
>>
YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY!
>>
>>82425280
Dealing with Strange's shit alone makes her bonkers.
>>
>JAMES GORDON
>YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY
>>
JAMES GORDON, YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY
>>
>>82425335
YEAH HES JUST GONE COMPLETELY INSANE
>>
>>82425203
This. In Gotham when Azrael shows up it's for a reason.

In Flash it's just
>Hey guys remember Griffin Grey? Remember Bug Eyed Bandit? Remember Plastique?!

And then we play the violins for Iris
>>
JAMES GORDON

YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY
>>
>>82425340

Alfred's debatable
>>
LMAO THE WAY HUGO BURST INTO GLEE JUST NOW
>>
>>82425332

Everyone's fucking devouring scenery this episode and it's glorious.

>>82425338
Same here. Gotham's definitely at the top of my list right now, but I watch Flash and Legends every week too.
>>
I LOVE THIS SHOW

I LOVE THIS THREAD
>>
>>82425357
>>82425358

Arrowmind
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>>82425353
>>82425354
>>82425357
>>82425358
>>82425365
Nice.
>>
>>82425353
>>82425354
>>82425357
>>82425358
Hi this is Stephen Amell. Glad you guys enjoy my show!
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>>82425219
Did you hear the flies buzzing?
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>>82425373

I LOVE YOU TOO ANON
>>
Of course he knows how to use ziplines and shit
>>
I gotta say this feels like the best show in television


Also I wonder if we are gonna get just Hatter or the full Wonderland gang.
>>
>>82425363
In Flash's defense, villains just popping up out of nowhere is rather Silver Age-y.
>>
>>82425388
Your show? Arent you felicitys sidekick?
>>
I need a WebM of Azrael's entrance.
>>
>>82425407

Oooh, pleeeease use Tweedledee and Tweedledum...
>>
This show is going to be remembered in one breath with the classic campy Batman from the 60's.

And it is glorious.
>>
>>82425258
This, jesus. They made it work with season 1 but fuck me s2 has been abysmal
>>
>>82425438
And his escape from the cops as bruce watches.
>>
>>82425415

Yeah my issue is more they don't really do anything interesting with them before dying or being written out of the show.

There are so many different ways Flash could be playing the aspects it wants to work with, and it's going for the most boring or nonsensical ways.
>>
>tfw live in Indiana and all commercials are political propaganda right now

Kill me.
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>>82425426
I'll be honest, she's only on the show because she's my baby mama
>>
I WAS BORN IN THE LIGHT
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>>82425388
>your show
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Post your face when Mad Hatter.
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>Azrael: By the time I have stepped into the life I was already a man.
>>
>step into the light
>But I am the light
>>
Where is Bruce in all this? He needs to learn how to do this shit.
>>
FUUUUCK

BARNES DON'T DO IT

YOU'RE TOO DAMN LAWFUL GOOD TO DO IT

>throwing bitches against the wall

Holy shit this is a fucking horror movie now
>>
Ha, he's doing a Predator Mission.
>>
OH I GET IT ITS LIKE REVERSE BATMAN
>>
>I am the light
>I am the night

Also this probably how the bad guys feel when batman is hunting them. Scary as fuck.
>>
Azrael is swift as hell
>>
RIP The Thing
>>
VILE SORCERY

>Dat zombie Azrael
>>
rip carl on duty
>>
>Go to hell!
>i've been there. :)

>>82425288
Daredevil fans are bad about Gotham hate but for some reason CW fans are worse.

It was surprising to me to find out DD was shot on location in New York, same as Gotham. It looks so cheap comparatively.
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>empty clip
>VILE SORCERY!

This motherfucker
>>
So Commissioner Clobbers is dead, right?
>>
>>82425363
There is a reason for Flash villains showing up. The particle accelerator. Not to mention Season 2 had Zoom directly sending villains after Flash in exchange for return to their earth.
>>
FOOL

HE'S WEARING HOLY ARMOR
>>
And the red shirt cops go down!
>>
Gotham is going to run out of cops, I know losses like this arent new but they need a little fucking while to recover.

Also Barnes is apparently tired of this shit on a lot of levels.
>>
I hope Hugo doesn't make Jerome The Mad Hatter.

(Tho it would make for a funny as hell twist to throw Joker fans off guard)
>>
>Shooting a zombie in the chest.
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JESUS FUCK HE ATE THAT ENTIRE CLIP
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Do people really think the jaws reference is still good material?
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>>
>>82425504
you are still lawful good if you kill to protect the lives of others.
>>
HOLY FUCK THAT POOR DOOR
>>
>>82425537

Not before he sees his face.
>>
>>82425532
I like both a lot.
>>
>>82425558
>>82425558

"Joker" at this point is more of a memetic virus than anything
>>
IT'S CLOBBERIN TIME
>>
Fucking cosplay swords!
>>
Fucking Strange.

Went for the cheap shit!
>>
Stupid cheap masonry!
>>
Holy shit, the sword fucking broke? Nice one Strange.
>>
"We are gonna need a big gun."

Jaws exist in this world.
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HAHA HUGO STRANGE COMMISSIONED A CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT

OH GOD BARNES NO
>>
>Barne's is gonna die believing Jim is innocent and a good man
>>
RIP in peace Ben Grimm
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>>82425558

I'll be so fucking pissed
>>
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>
IT'S BLEEDING TIMW
>>
CHEAP SWORDS
UNDEAD WARD
THE CHIEF HAS NOW BEEN SENT TO HIS LORD
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>>82425486
>>
THING NO!
>>
>>82425591

He's a curse, an evil spirit that will never die.

>>82425589

Called it.
>>
Its raining men!
>>
>>82425516
Congratulations!
>>
>>82425296
He's a scientist. He's basically researching creating "special" people, and implanting identities is a new way he's found.

He chose Hatter because it was a strong character, and you need a defined character for the subject to take on as a persona.
>>
I could watch azreal dodge gunfire all day
>>
>there are people who still willingly live in Gotham after this
>>
>The former Mayor is alive and dressed in a bizarre costume

Welcome to fucking Gotham
>>
This show.
>>
>>82425612
Can't stifle Gordon's rise to power
>>
>>82425612

The feels
>>
Wait, cops are allowed to use ammo drums?
>>
Now the world knows Gotham is crazy!
>>
So Barnes is dead?
>>
I was starting to like him, too...
>>
>>82425293
Anybody have that comic panel where he's fucking the hooker dressed as Batman?
>>
Gravity is the true evil in Gotham.
>>
SUCH WONDERFUL TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION
>>
>>82425667
Gotham police are.
>>
God all this set up to

Penguin vs. Azrael!
>>
>>82425653
Dodge

I think you mean get shot 40 times and still stab people to death
>>
>>82425667
Maybe it was in evidence lockup?
>>
>>82425684
He's had a LOT of episodes tho I thought he'd be dead sooner.
>>
>>82425667
I feel like police in gotham should be allowed to use literally anything they can get ahold of.
>>
>>82425629


HAHAHA

I LOVE IT
>>
>>82425568
Jaws just came out in the Gotham universe
>>
>>82425712

I could have done with another season of him
>>
>>82425407
It absolutely is.

>tfw waiting until october or november for season 3

FUEK
>>
>>82425708
Gotham had a Weapons department store, I'm pretty sure Gordon got that from one of his coworkers lockers. If he looked long enough he might've found a grenade launcher.
>>
Houdini & Doyle looks like shit honestly
>>
>>82425699
>penguin gets to be the one to kill galavan for good

Yes.
>>
>>82425712
Me too. This is Gotham after all. And he is a cop in Gotham.

There was probably a pool out on him. Someone is going to get a nice pot. That is if they weren't one of the cops that were killed in the precinct slaughter.
>>
>>82423729
>Ventriloquist

I had this idea that Butch would end up Scarface.
Or the spirit of Scarface
>>
>>82425741

I think he's a good foil for Gordon. Straight and obstinant, but he ultimately has the good of the city in his heart and has more character than just an obstacle against the heroes.
>>
Oh God Butch, time for suffering.
>>
Thing's alive.

BUTCH
>>
butch is dead
>>
Haha you three are great.
>>
wait this is the season finale?
>>
Jfc Bab's is nuts. I'm in love.

>>82425482
MOLDED BY IT

I HASN't
>>
Just a thought that popped in my head. For those of you concerned that all the standard Batman villains are showing up way too "early" compared to Bruce, and will be too old to be menacing: what if they make a followup Batman show in several years, with ALL NEW villains? Completely original characters, like Harley Quinn and Lock-up from Batman The Animated Series?
>Who the hell is Lock-up
Well, let's just say Harley Quinn. Not all the OCs will be good, but at least some will right?
>>
What the fuck is up with Babs.
>>
>>82425766
>gets even more mind broken when fish returns
>attach a dummy to his stump and a machine gun on the dummy
>>
Barbra is deliciously crazy. I just want to hold her and kiss her and help her be happy.

>Holds up gigantic knife
>Do we have any limes?


SHE IS SO ADORABLE
>>
War, I'm worried about the Beav...
>>
sister galavan looks so damn good
>>
HELLO OLD FRIEND
>>
>>82425809
She is barking mad. What else could it be?
>>
Fuck...

Barb finally made me laugh.
>>
IT'S TIME TO HONK
>>
>>82425810
I think maybe...end up with a scar over his eye, and then dumped in an unmarked grave outside of Blackgate.

Then the final scene is some inmate carving a dummy.
>>
OH GOODY, PENGUIN GETS TO KILL HIM AGAIN
>>
Looks like next week is a Penguin episode.
>>
>HELLO OLD FRIEND

Penguin pls.
>>
Huh. Galivan being alive again is kinda a major plot point.
>>
How the fuck can penguin kill Azrael?

Even if penguin stood behind him with a bazooka I would pick Galavan to win
>>
>This music

THIS SHOW!
>>
THIS MUSIC
>>
Heh, I love this song.
>>
THIS FUCKING MONTAGE
>>
>>82425591
I love this interpretation more than anything in the comics tbqh. So glad we're moving past the Killing Joke origin
>>
Riddles gets the best music
>>
>>82425856
A sword.

A very special sword!
>>
oh Eddie. Nothing good can come of this.
>>
>>82425866
We used to sing this song in school. Flashbacks!
>>
RIDDLE ME THIS, STRANGE
>>
>>82425800
>all the standard Batman villains are showing up way too "early" compared to Bruce, and will be too old to be menacing
The only villain who really will suffer from this is Carmine Falcone.

Riddler and Penguin are all supposed to be older men when they face off against Batman. Joker hasn't appeared yet. Azrael is just one of a long line of Azraels.
>>
Even Riddler is disturbed.
>>
I...AM...AZRAEL!
>>
>>82425787

Wait, is it?!

Please no
>>
I love Riddler
>>
AZMAN
>>
THAT WAS THE GREATEST ENDING TO AN EPISODE EVER.
>>
GOTHAM NEEDS A HERO
BUT WHO
>>
>>82425877
He gets all the 1940's/50's music. I love it.
>>
EDDIE GONNA USE FIREFLY TO BUST OUT OF ARKHAM
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THEY FIND THE REAL SWORD

ALFRED GETS TO SWORD-FIGHT AZRAEL

FUCKING FIREFLY

THIS GODDAMN SHOW
>>
GTA GOTHAM


ALSO FIREFLY!
>>
>Alfred with a scimitar
SOLD!
>>
>3 episodes left

YEAHHHHHHHHHH
>>
Hey neat, Firefly's back.

There's a sentence I never thought I'd say.
>>
>>82425941
no the greatest ending was when galavan beat the shit out of gordon. Like straight up wrecked his shit 1 vs 1 with no tricks.

Completely out of the blue
>>
Hooo... I got chills...
>>
>>82425922
3 Episodes left
>>
>Riddler fucking lets out the Legion of Doom

holy shit this show
>>
I KNEW IT MY BURN FU IS COMING BACK TO US
>>
This show is seriously 10/10.

I remembered how mediocre was on the first half of season 1, but now it's great.
>>
>that Tim Burton score

I love this show. I've genuinely never been into a TV show as much as I am with Gotham.
>>
How can one show be this based?
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>>82425956
>mfw

Why can't it go on forever?!
>>
Anyone sticking around for Houdini & Doyle?

I hope they actually keep some supernatural shit at least ambiguous rather than just "lol magic isn't real, silly spiritualists".
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>>82425942
NO HEROES
ONLY MADNESS NOW
>>
>I am the hero the city needs
>I am the Light
>I am...
>AZREAL
>>
Penguin doesn't have time for this super villain shit.
>>
>>82425965
*spit take*
>>
So, Season 3 is probably going to depend on whether Smith or Monagahn find time to return to the show
>>
>Everyone else gets a promo for next episode
>I get a promo for the fucking CW Time cops show

Goddamnit
>>
HOW DO THEY DO IT? HOW DOES THIS SHOW GET BETTER EVERY EPISODE?

IT IS COOL IT IS FUNNY IT HAS GOOD FIGHTS GOOD PLOT TWISTS IT IS INTERESTING GOTHAM DOES IT ALL! WHY IS IT NOT MORE POPULAR?
>>
>Black nun

Goddammit, guess I can't watch this show with 4chan.
>>
>>82425996
I thought they were doing that? Otherwise it'll be Scooby Doo
>>
WE
>>
>>82425996
I wonder if they'll have a Lovecraft episode.
>>
>>82425993

It must sleep for a time and recharge, and thus must we
>>
>>82426012

Because its the Adam West show painted in Burton/Bale black.

Meanwhile, on this new shoe...
>And should no one stop him, this city will be consumed by a horde of...Nightmare Creatures!
>>
>>82425988
Because it knows exactly what it is and doesn't give a flying fuck if you like it. It's not there for fans. The fans are there for it.
>>
>>82426026
Don't tell /pol/ they'll never shut up about it.
>>
>>82425996
>Black nun in the early 1900's and they're not treating her like shit.
Already having a hard time believing this show.
>>
>>82425996
I am. I love the idea behind the show. Let's see if they can milk it for all its worth though...
>>
>>82426012

>all the actors are really good
>well-defined character arcs that tie into each other
>plot points are developed in meaningful ways and each new event is reacted to in realistic ways with impact on the overarching story and stakes of it
>stellar art direction, costuming and cinematography, Gotham itself has a really unique feel that sets it apart from every other show on TV
>>
>>82426059
I won't tell if you won't tell.
>>82426078
Shit.
>>
>>82426059
>>82426026
It's >>82426037
already started
>>
>>82423752
The Owls could have been incorporated in a better manner. The Owls are most of the rich ruling families of Gotham. Bruce is the last heir of one these, as he's been invited to join in various comics. They could have used Owl-lite stuff as an Elite Group of kids in School. Tease back and fourth between if it's really connected to the Adults or just kids being kids.

But like many things with Gotham, it's a lost cause. Still love the show!
>>
>>82425988
I have no idea. Jesus christ though, it just doesn't let up.

It would take some shows 4 or five episodes to do what Gotham does in a single episode.
>>
Ha, Doyle getting reamed for killing Holmes.

Its funny cuz its true.
>>
>>82426012
The power of a show getting really mediocre reviews for half a season and then the network execs telling writers to do whatever they want. Also the director stonewalling the network on stuff to force filming in new york and well developed sets.
>>
>>82426039
>>82426039
Reminds me that there was a 2000AD series called "Necronauts" that had Doyle, Houdini, Lovecraft (and another dude who I forget offhand) team up against eldritch horrors. I need to storytime it sometime.
>>
>>82426006
Kill yourself.
>>
Wasn't Doyle Scottish?
>>
>>82426117

I know, I love this show already.
>>
At least the banter is already shaping up to be great.
>>
>>82426127
Awww, come here. I'll give you the hugs you never got from your parents.
>>
Oh good, they didn't forget Doyle was a spiritualist ninny.
>>
>>82426145
Scotts are disgusting unless you're making fun of them, this has been Fox's rule since poor old willie came on the scene.
>>
Doyle is Mulder

Houdini is Scully

They solve crimes
>>
>>82426184
It's part of the premise, I think.
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>female constable in the 1900's

Okay what the fuck.
>>
Oh shit, we got our synopsis of the final episode

2.20: "Unleashed" [May 9th]
Azrael is on the loose in Gotham City, which sparks Penguin’s need for revenge. Meanwhile, Bruce enlists the help of Selina Kyle to help track down Professor Strange, as he evades arrest for his experiments.

2.21: "A Legion of Horribles" [May 16th]
Hugo Strange welcomes a familiar face to GOTHAM after he resurrects Fish Mooney in Indian Hill. Later, Bruce discovers a friend is in danger and teams up with Gordon, Alfred and Lucius, while uncovering more of Strange's experiments.

I thought there were 22 eps, but maybe 21 is a double one?
>>
She's a cutie.
>>
>Token chick that's a stick in the mud

That's a very bad sign.
>>
>>82426207
I just thought that
>>
>>82426101
they can still do the Owls. The Wayne Enterprises board is up to some shady shit, and we still have Thomas's computer to go through.
>>
>>82426218
The past's gotta be inclusive.
>>
>>82426219

Oh snap. Is Jada Pinkett Smith confirmed yet?
>>
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>>82426237

I liked this show at first, but it looks like they're going to be taking some pretty stupid detours in between the cheeky banter.
>>
Magnet link pls. I missed it
>>
>>82426219
>Fish Mooney

RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>82426219

What sort of persona will Fish get?

He seems to be hung up on Alice in Wonderland at the moment.
>>
>>82426225
It is. Two seconds in and she is already a third wheel.
>>
>>82426219
Nah the last one is Transference.
>While Gordon, Bruce and Lucius remain at Indian Hill, the city of Gotham will be met with a new threat as Hugo Strange’s inmates devise a plan to escape and start their new lives in Gotham.
Anyway
>Mooney
Fuck.
>>
>>82426248
Yep, we had heard rumors of it, and then she was in the tank

>Guest Cast: Kit Flanagan as The White Haired Woman, Clare Foley as Ivy Pepper, BD Wong as Hugo Strange, Tonya Pinkins as Ethel Peabody, Michelle Veintimilla as Firefly/Bridgit, Brian McManamon as Basil, Jada Pinkett Smith as Fish Mooney
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Where were you when Gotham became the best cape show on network television?
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>>82426272
>What sort of persona will Fish get?

Solomon Grundy
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Houdini sounds like John C Riley.
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>>82426297
Damn, now I can't unhear it.
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>82426272

The Cat Woman
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>>82426297
I keep thinkin it's Borat.
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>>82426237
Can't get upstaged by Dr. Who, you know.
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>>82426219

Silver St. Cloud coming back?
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>>82424066
I'm not sure your age or where your family is from so please understand this is not an insult.

Any place that has founding or long time families who partake in the business and community of a location have Illuminatis. That's where the whole idea of the Illuminati comes from. A group or party of people making decisions for others. And for a long time especially in America these groups were flat out just the local Church with a circle of deciders within.

The Owls are merely Gothams version. Just like Icabod Crane had the Headless Horseman in Sleepy Hollow, not that the American version was the first Headless Horseman tale.
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>>82426283
I was watching Season 1.

>>82426272
The Dodo
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English detectives and snarky American....yeah, I prefer Ripper Street.
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>>82426283
Watching Gotham and laughing like a madman.
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>>82426353

I like the two leads, but I'm really disliking the actual mystery setup.

And this show does NOT need a snarky token female cop in the fucking 1900's.
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So in the Gotham universe, Hugo Strange created the majority of Bruce's rogue gallery?
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>>82426235
I know but I always felt the Owls were better introduced via their offspring. Like a couple of the kids know the truth, most are kept in the dark until the adults feel their trusted. It's their job to bring Bruce into the fold.
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>>82426297

>Check it Out! with Harry Houdini
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This show is seriously giving off Nightmare Creatures/MediEvil 2/every Jack the Ripper story ever vibes.
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>>82426393
He furthered many of their careers. The Hugo setup actually makes the Arkham games seem like legit Batman. Instead of edgy teen fap material.
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>>82426377
No, they don't need her. I am all for female character but this show should focus on Doyle and Houdini. Not Doyle and Houdini and.....shit, I can't even remember her name. That's how remarkable she is.
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>>82426393
Yes, though if you want weird. I see no way catwoman/Selina won't instantly recognize Bruce in bat ears.
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>>82426415
I think it's work perfectly well with them trying to fill parental figure roles, sort of like Galavan did.
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I was going to give this Houdini show a chance but there are several cringeworthy things here.
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>>82426511
I am going to give it one episode. But I am already planning on watching Ripper Street again to get this taste out of my mouth.
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>>82426466

I'd feel better if she wasn't a constable, because that's shit that is historical record
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>>82426487
Of course given how she seems to see their socio-economic differences as this insurmountable barrier...then it makes sense that even if she does recognize him immediately, it gives their relationship a chance to become equal in costume.
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>>82426546
>>82426546
I've never seen Ripper Street, but if it actually does this concept competently then I'm going to track it down and watch it instead.
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>>82426487
She'll just know his identity. Bruce and Selina are literally growing up together and fighting crime together. Unless they pull a Smallville and Selina gets mindwiped on the final episode
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>>82426557
Yeah, but Houdini and Doyle never solved crimes, so I'll give it wiggle room. But only so much.
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>>82426511
For now, I'm enjoying the particular type of cringe.

And I'm getting a Dr. Who feel from this, only with two doctors and one companion.
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>>82426487
That's assuming we never get a Bruce going to learn martial arts after recieving inspiration from azraels acts period.

When a kid leaves for a decade and comes back as the Ubermensch who pretends to be a playboy people get thrown off.
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>>82426601

Doyle did.
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>>82426590
Strange brainwashing Selina wouldn't be that unusual at this point.
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You know, one thing I've seen people bring up is how Flash threads are able to have talkback threads, while Gotham threads can't. I've always wondered why Gotham fans don't speculate as much as Flash fans.

>>82426393
It makes sense. It explains why nobody ever gets better in Arkham- Arkham is literally a supervillain factory.

>>82426461
Arkham Asylum was good. Everything else was trash.
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>>82426283
I've been here since the beginning. Allow me to cue you in on some fun.

Arrow, not sure if you can tolerate this shit show or not. Nothing about Arrow beyond a few names is about the Green Arrow. Almost every ounce of it is Batman as the Green Arrow. The show is a horrible fucking mess that relies on pretty people posing.

Point?

Arrow-fans mostly by vocal majority hate Gotham and do nothing but talk crap about it. Quivering whimpers about how the villains are different than the "pick random comic universe they believe is the real representation of said character". But they adore a show that 99.9% copies Batman and rarely ever shows an element of the True Green Arrow.

Tuck that in your breeches for some amusement later. And a friendly reminder that io9 who once tried to become the new reddit of "pop-culture & comics", is now ran by Rob.

The same man who cherishes and rambles on about how good Arrow is compared to any other superhero show.

But discredits Gotham as nothing resembling a comic book show. Just bad cop drama with names given to over the top antics.
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>>82426573
It takes place during the Jack the Ripper era and the characters grab you from the first scene. Plus, there are quite a few actors from Game of Thrones on the show. It's currently on Netflix if you have it.
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Its the Flying Nun!
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M A T H
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>no computer databases for criminals
>let's make the forced female cop be a file clerk who has seen all the cases
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>>82426646
The arkham games are horribly executed in story line, but awesome games to play.
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After watching Gotham, this show is awfully boring in the directing department. No one is moving. The camera is point and shoot. The costumes are pretty boring. The sets are....okay.

Damn, Gotham spoiled me.
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So Houdini's going to be the only good part of this show?
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>>82426601
>>82426601
Doyle was a consultant to Scotland Yard in real life.
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>>82426646
I feel like part of it is because everything comes out of left field in the best was possible.

Like start of season 1 who was gonna guess that Riddlers transformation would involve stabbing his love rival to death and taking apart the body in the GCPD morgue

Flash on the other hand is super predictable because pretty much everything gets hinted at way in advance.
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Hm. I like the concept, but its just not quite... grabbing me yet.
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>>82426601
Houdini debunked mystic frauds.
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>>82426743
I think the only things people have really speculated on where
>Joker
>Jerome maybe coming back
>Gordon baby shenanigans
>Who Strange will lead too
>OWLS
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>>82426743
And unless they reveal some reason the Flash has been acting like a selfish prick this entire show is missing the point of the flash.
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>>82426609
Personally I'm totally fine with Bruce receiving all his training in Gotham. I mean, when your whole identity is wrapped up in one place why would you leave for ten years? Would Bruce's compulsion really allow him to spend ten years not working on the city just to fulfill Frank Miller's ninja fetish?

It's much more believable that he would throw himself into the streets to die before he'd abandon Gotham.

>>82426571
>>82426590
Yeah I don't see what about Catwoman requires her to not know his identity besides having a big Batman Returns style reveal, where Selina being a criminal keeps her apart from Bruce even if they love each other.

In fact, it turns it on its head- Selina being a cape actually makes her MORE compatible with Bruce than just being a common criminal.
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>>82426646

Oh, we used to speculate brother.

Then Maroni got shot in the head, and we knew all bets were off.

Now we mostly hold on for dear life and enjoy the ride
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>>82426788
Plus, it makes Bruce letting her thieving side as Catwoman slide become more than just....a weird crush.

It's childhood friend endgame.
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>>82426648
arrow is just the worst.
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>>82426771
>Implying the OWLS is speculation

We are just saying everything is owls so when it happens we can screencap our posts and say "called it"
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>>82426792
>>82426792
I'm surprised they killed off Barnes now, I expected him to be a big death in the finale.

Fighting Azrael hand-to-hand is a pretty badass way to go out at least.
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>>82426847
Next season for sure.

>Season 3 Part 1: Court of Owls
>Season 2 Part 2: Night of Owls

The second part would be done "24" style.
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>>82426771
I am still saying Jerome is the inspiration for Leto's Joker and this is Affleck's Gotham.
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>>82426684
I think City makes a lot of horrid decisions that make it unplayable. All the "hide on the gargoyle" battles that Asylum was built around are peppered in to only a few places, and the combat doesn't suit big areas.
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>>82426862

He's not officially dead yet. I think. Did they wheel him out with a sheet over his face?
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God, this show is musically and aesthetically boring
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>Implying a London commoner would know why any of those people are important.
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>>82426868
>Azrael never gets caught and is just a recurring shit hitting the fan moment for characters that shows up once or twice a season
>A Talon is attempting to murder someone and Azzy shows up out of the shadows for a swordfight

Let this happen
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>>82426908

It's the 19th century.
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>>82426908
Wasn't 190x aesthetically boring to begin with?
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>>82426933
I have a feeling that Jerome's body is just gonna "disappear" even though Fish is resurrected.

Dead corpses starts showing up with rigor mortis smiles
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Harry, watch it. Talk like that would get you killed these days.
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>>82426743
Yeah, I've always figured it was because we all know Gotham will pay off on things, so there's no reason in speculating. The nice thing though is that characters in Gotham have real motivations, and it feels like there's a lot more to analyze development wise than just trying to figure out time travel shenanigans.

My big pet theories are
>Matches didn't kill the Waynes, because she show went out of its way not to confirm it and to tie off that loose end
>Penguin's dad drank the poison intentionally. He made a big show out of never drinking, but then the one time it was poison he refused to let Penguin drink it.
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>>82426943

Doesn't excuse this boring score in the slightest and they could have doubled down on the muck

This is Downton Abbey with the lights off
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>that episode where a bolt of lighting strikes a sherlock holmes novel, causing moriarty to come to life and escape the book
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>>82426771
Nobody would have called the Order of St.Dumas,and I think everyone accepts that Joker is a meme now. Baby Shenanigans will be fun when they get revealed.

I wonder who Jerome will be? Hopefully he's not Jervis, and I really hope he isn't the "real" Joker.
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>>82427000
Pretty sure this show is so bad visually is that it comes off the back of Gotham.

We are all spoiled by high tier HBO level visuals and then back into average show territory.
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>>82426908
Again, you just came off of Gotham. The show with the best aesthetic and a great soundtrack. Any other lead show you wouldn't be so critical.

Fox made a huge mistake pairing these two.
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>>82427044
>I wonder who Jerome will be?

I'd like him to be Red Hood No. 1
And then let nature take it's course.
I think he'd be a great Red Hood
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>>82427047

I'm willing to accept this answer
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>>82427047

Speaking of which, I really fear for this show after Gotham ends. Its nowhere near strong enough to survive without a good lead-in. Yet, anyway.
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>>82426876
Agreed. I liked the Arkham games but I've been spoiled by open-world games too much. Spidey had one of the best games because of this.

>>82426965
It'd be acceptable to what we've received.
Sadly my drunkard mind pranced amongest the tendrils of alleviation and saw a vision of what Jerome could have been, a really epic tale it could have been and done SoOo Easily ... then reality washed it away. So I'm left loving the character Jerome with a Joker's smile on my face towards where ever he appears. Ya Know?
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>>82426965
Jerome disappearing and never being referenced again would be perfect. Then everybody gets their way- we don't get a Joker backstory so nobody can be disappointed, and it plays up the mystery of the Joker.

If the show does that it will literally have the best interpretation of the Joker of anything outside the comics, and it won't even ever have to show him.
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>>82426986
>Penguin's dad drank the poison intentionally. He made a big show out of never drinking, but then the one time it was poison he refused to let Penguin drink it.

I have to go back and re-watch for cues from Pee Wee himself. Without the subtle clues, it's a fan theory ... but that sounds too legit.
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>>82427099
I don't know. This time of the television season is more forgiving for slow and lower rated shows. If this was a fall show? It would be toast already.
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>Houdini gets pegged by his assistant
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>>82427102
I think Jerome living could have led to something great too...but this season had way too much to offer already.

>>82427133
Given how long the show may or may not last, we might not even have to see the Red Hood Gang again
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>>82426646
I'd say at this point it's less speculating and more just complaining about how bad the episode was.
Plus Gotham is already full on crazy, it's hard to predict what could happen when everything's already firing at 200%.
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>>82427181
Wasn't he married?

Doyle isn't Scottish. Houdini isn't married.

Why bother using these characters if you aren't going to stick with their historical backgrounds?
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Hey I'm double jointed.
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>>82427161
The only thing that really goes against it is that Penguin's dad was planning to sign the papers the next day, so as far as we know Penguin does not have his inheritance.
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Evil ginger on British show confirmed.
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>Really? You're going to out-limp us?
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The Running Nun.
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>>82427281
Nuns on the Run.

Just need Eric Idle.
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>>82427187
Well we're definitely getting a season 3, and after a certain point you're assured 5 seasons for syndication.

If the first half of Season 3 does well we might well be guaranteed a 5th season, which is a solid run for any show.
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>>82427309
>it gets FOX'd next season
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>>82427309

Five seasons sounds like a good plan anyway

Bruce would be what, sixteen? Seventeen? Can close out with something that finally makes him leave Gotham to complete his training, then time jump for an epilogue
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>>82427187
That was a huge WTF! It'd make just as much sense to let him get arrested only to break out again. Hyping up why Galavan was needed.

Recall when Mooney escaped the Dolly Factory? If Jerome had been another abductee on his way to Gotham. Arriving in Mooney's "Morlocks". She could have been his initial trainer into becoming a the Clown Prince of Crime.

It both gives Mooney a nice lil bravado before we remove her from the Bat mythos and setups a lonely lil carnival geek into a life of chaotic amusement ruling the underworld.
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>there's no ghost, just random person

We scooby doo now

>>82426648
Arrow is aids incarnate. Arrowfags have no right to complain about ANY cape show
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>>82427423
I am okay with this being Scooby Doo.
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>>82427423

Did they explain the ghost in the room?
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>>82427423
>>82427436

Probably gonna be a mix. Sometimes the ghost does it, sometimes the ghost helps.

Maybe. I kinda hope.
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>>82427436
So the lady cop is Scrappy Doo? Makes sense.
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>In the final scene, Houdini admits to making it up as bullshit to get her to comply.
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That's some bullshit right there.
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JUST LIKE THAT BALLOON AND THAT OTHER THING
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>>82427397
Gotham's been pretty strong so idk if that will happen.

>>82427412
Nah, it was the perfect end to him. Everybody thought Jerome was the Joker, and they played it up, then the Ruse Cruise came to a screeching halt. It was genius.

>>82427450
>their eyes got shaken by a subway

Literally Scooby Doo
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>>82427494
Well, it's certainly bullshit. That's for sure.
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What lovely job security.
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This show sounds like it has left over music from House.
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BUT MAYBE IT WAS A GHOST
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At least that wasted time until Castle.
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Hm. Neat concept, its just not very exciting.

But man that Gotham...
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>>82427616
Yeah. Gotham is a nine course meal in a 3 Michelin star restaurant. This.....it's Chik-Fil-A at best. But it's only the pilot. I'll come back next week to see if it improves.
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>>82427616

I hate to say this, but I feel like the Beeb could have done it better
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>>82427616
Fucking Gotham, man.

Dat crazybabs <3
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>>82427687
True. Gotham's Pilot was the worst episode in the season.

Is there a Gotham soundtrack or score?
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>>82427748

Pilots are always weak. Gotta give it the 3 episode smell test.
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>>82428183
To be honest Gotham needed half a season; aome shows are slow burn and require a lot of time to set up plots-particularly shows with big mysteries.

That said this show does not see, like that. There's no overarching plot so there's no payoff.
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>>82428339

There seems to be an overarching plot with Doyle's wife in a coma, but thats about it.
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>>82426012
Bruno Heller, man.
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>>82428770

jesus fucking christ
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