Post Flash slayers

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>>82417515

>>82417515
>muh "manga powers"

So is this faggot faster than the speed of light? Are his powers defined? Or are they subject to the "it's in the narrative" bullshit manga-logic you weebs use in all these "east vs. west" matchups?

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Batman trains them well.

I want to personally tie all the JoJo posters on /co/ to chairs and chainsaw them all to death.

>>82417924
His powers are a variant on cause/effect negation.

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>>82417515
I know it was bullshit, but like He did kill the Pre-52 Eobard Thwane.
>>82417978
ow the autism, anon

>>82418092
I want to learn more about him, and I'm sad I never will

>>82418105
the comics death was even worse
a fucking sword

>>82417924
Negation of anything, including the speed force, time, space, alternate realities, etc. I'm not the OP but I'm 100% sure the world would be a better place without your shitty, ignorant ass.

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>>82418250
>>82418105
the guy was literally facing the other way and didn't expect it
flash powers don't include eyes on the back of the head

>>82418280
I guess, but like it IS fucking stupid.

>>82417994
>variant on cause/effect negation

[citation needed]

From what I can tell, it's just a collection of thinly defined "abilities" (typical of manga). I also didn't see "speed of light reaction time" among those abilities. Flash could kill this guy before his ghost buddy manifests.

>>82418277

>ignorant

That's right. I'm ignorant of flimsy manga-logic. Because it's fucking stupid to use this logic outside of the medium it originates in.

>>82418280
it was retarded, he moves at insane speeds and was beating up barry at isnane speeds and suddenly a wounded batman can run up to him and stab him with a huge ass sword
the animated version atleast improved on it

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Anyone with a banana peel.

Deathstroke lol
any time flash wankers post remind them he killed the Flash with the super adcanced tactic of "hold a sword out and the faggot impales himself on it"

>>82418280
he should have felt the vibration in the air

>>82418455
You honestly can not talk down on "flimsy manga logic" in the same thread as the speed force.

I mean, you can, obviously, but it makes you look retarded.

>>82418455
Wait, are you really criticizing a power and saying that you don't know anything about it at the same time?

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just erase him

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>>82417515
GER is a whole new level of broken

King Crimson didnt even have a weakness, yet GER deafeated him

The flash cant do shit against either

>weebs never post pictures or proof of feats accomplished by characters
>expects their opinions to hold weight and to be considered seriously

Go ahead, show me proof of how the colorful faggots of JoJo's world could beat the Flash.

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>>82418854
King Crimson is pretty complicated.

>>82418931
They're all pretty complicated. Overly complicated.

It's the main reason why these "east vs. west" threads are retarded. Manga has it's own set of rules and tropes. None of which are really applicable to western fiction in any capacity.

>>82418688
How does Flash even work? Does he have super reflexes and body that can't be affected by velocity? Epitaph can dodge the initial attack from Flash, but if Flash has super reflexes, then he can continue into second attack. But if Flash is confused by King Crimson, he is going to run into something at full force, killing himself.

Is Flash's power that he is immune to inertia?

>>82418931

man fuck Jojo. glad i never got into it.

>>82419335
It's the only stand that people don't get. Everything else is extremely straightforward stuff you've seen in other stories.

In the New 52 Barry's powers changed a bit...he doesn't run fast at all. Basically Barry accelerates the speed or rate of the flow of time relative to himself while Professor Zoom can slow down time relative to himself which is why both appear to be fast.

Barry can't use his full potential because it would tear a hole in reality but if he wanted do he could accelerate time forward at a very fast rate. He could become a living, breathing Made in Heaven

>>82419238
>They're all pretty complicated. Overly complicated.
It JUST works.

New 52 Flash is basically a slightly weaker version of Zoom and Enrico Pucci

>>82419365

>Only Stand people just get.

All it is is just fast-forwarding like a video tape or a scratched disk, that's all.

At least that's how I see it.

>>82419401
>>82419238

The funny thing is that "it just works" explanations are much more commonly used in the west. Usually if someone in a manga has the power to move things they need eleven pages to explain the mechanics of it only so that they can exploit them later.

In comic they just go "It's the speed force, of curse it allows you to outrun death".

Despite JoJo being JoJo it does tend to explain the more outlandish stands

Despite some of them being completely fucking insane

>>82418455
>I also didn't see "speed of light reaction time" among those abilities
GER not only exists outside of time, but can undo events that have already happened anyway.
It's seriously the most unstoppable defensive power in fiction.

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>>82417515

GER maybe be the most defensive power in fiction but Tusk Act 4 is broken as all hell. The thing follows you through the multiverse

>>82419446
The fuck'd up part is when universum adapts to the removed time, as you can't have effect without cause.

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Wonder if pic related could turn stands and speed force into nothing but since he has to lose I guess not

>>82419446
I think a jump-cut would be a better comparison, but it really isn't complicated at all.

>>82419555
He's basically Reverse Flash in Flashpoint and his power is "the floor is lava" so you can't touch him

>>82418455
>it's fucking stupid to use this logic outside of the medium it originates in.
well if they're outside the medium they originate in then Flash loses his powers anyway.

How does the Speedforce even work?

>>82419624
Shit goes so fast that it can do what it wants.

>>82419555
Why didn't GER stop Pucci?

Well in the new 52 Speed Force is directly connected to time and when Barry absorbed the SF he gained the ability to accelerate time

>>82419624
It's created by the latent energies of smugness in power wank faggots.

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See you next time, space pilot

>>82418504
or at least the tip of the blade touching him. At his reaction speed it would take that sword several relative minutes to move through him completely.

To be fair Giorno could still be alive in the SBR/JoJolion Verse. While Jorge Joestar is non canon it showed that some people could survive MIH

>>82419651
Because he was at disneyland.

IIRC he survived the recreation of the universe because of GER, as did Rohan by being SO FUCKING FOCUSED ON DRAWING he didn't notice the end of the universe.

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>>82419624

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>>82417515

>>82417515
What about Made in Heaven?

>>82419651
>>82419696
>>82419711

Yeah, Giorno lived through the end of it, but whether or not Araki will actually do anything with that is a whole different matter.

>>82419729
Hehehe.

>>82419276
the speed force does 2 things
1) gives you an infinite well of kinetic energy to draw from.
2) lets you control if, and how much, you are effected by the physical law of equal and opposite reaction.

>>82419729
Well done anon well done

>>82418455
This has to be bait.
No one can be this butthurt about east/west crossovers

>>82419651
36 Cars on Mars.

>>82419744
It's not inconceivable that Flash could lose to that, but Pucci would have to be VERY clever, since Flash moves fast enough that head-on attacks from Made In Heaven are unlikely to work. He's basically Zolomon, except his powers effect everything that isn't alive. He could possibly beat him by using the secondary abilities.

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>>82418455
>flimsy manga-logic
Oh yeah because comic book logic is so fucking tight.

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>>82417515
Man causality manipulation just can't be fucked with. It's like reality manipulation but stronger, if less generally useful.
Take this Flash slayer for example. His Lance reverses the relationship of cause and effect between him attacking and you being stabbed in the heart.
So, normal lance:
>He attacks
>the lance hits (maybe)
>you get stabbed in the heart
His lance:
>He attacks
>you get stabbed in the heart
>the universe rewrites so it makes sense that he hit you.

>>82419957
At least they're using scientific terms and are attempting to define the ability. Jo-Jo's explanations amount to "y'see they got these ghost things that make them do crazy stuff, yo. That's pretty much all that you need to know.".

>>82420028
Yeah, but Gae Bolg can be avoided based on your Luck stat. And since Flash is a main character in capeshit, he might as well have EX luck.

>>82418455
>all these manga retards who replied to this post spewing their weeb stink all over the place

lol, flash would murder this guy, get out

>>82420069
Do you get this autistic over the X-Men? Because replace "Stand" with X-Gene, and it's the same thing.

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>>82420028
Unless you have A rank luck or higher, Cu+Bazett stand a chance tho.

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Help me with this question. If /co/ is Joseph Joestar, and you married /ck/ and had /co/ck/(Holly), then who did he married for you to have a grandson like Jotaro?

Who was Dio?

>>82420069
You've never read or watched Jojo in your life have you?

>>82420076
>>82420109
Flash actually has pretty low luck compared to other heroes.

>>82420069
Araki in many of his works explain things and give fun facts about science, history, culture in the foot notes. Araki's favorite hobby is traveling, unlike many western comic writers, who just google shit. Have you seen Araki's library (I am talking real books here, not e books)? It is big.

>>82420289
Where does he use this vast knowledge he's accumulated in his travels and reading to explain the "ghost-buddy" powers used in his funnybooks?

>>82420455
>complaining about goofy powers on /co/

>>82419477
The speedforce has been explained better than that.

>>82419477
>he's never read the explanation for the Plutonian's powers.

>>82419583
The Fury can do that

>>82420455
Dude, you're on a board where we accept Eyebeams to the Punch Dimension, Toxic Waste granting Superpowers instead of cancer, and sunlight granting the strength to juggle planets.
But no, "psychic powers" is where you call bullshit? Because that's literally what the ghosts are, a visual representation of psychic powers.

>>82420555
Didn't they amount in the end as "He's a superscience golem, I don't have to explain shit?"

And of course I talked in general. You are going to find overexplained things in western comics and it just works in manga, but it's the minority.

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Hi.

>>82420672
He's a reality warper that doesn't know he is. He can control molecules and shit.
He doesn't actually have super strength, he just makes his fist denser and makes you weaker.
Or something like that, I never finished Irredeemable.

>>82420455
You mean Shinto religion, books on E.S.P, early comics, sci-fi books and music? He talks about these things and random triva in the first few pages of every manga.

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>>82417515
If we're using JoJo to slay the Flash at least play at his own game to make it fair.

>>82420672
>The Plutonian's powers are not physical but psionic, enabling him to subconsciously manipulate matter on an atomic level: allowing him to heat or freeze the air, see through objects, fly, render himself virtually indestructible, possess super strength and heightened senses, and make opponents more susceptible to damage. Modeus hypothesizes that if the Plutonian is made aware of his true abilities he would be able to alter probability, see through time and reverse entropy, concluding "and that's just if he moves from Kindergarten to grade school."After meeting with his Eleos creators, Plutonian's powers are expanded. He gains a sixth digit on each hand like the Eleos, and learns how to alter his density to become intangible, remotely ignite explosions by manipulating quantum matter, negate inertia to the point he can stop Earth's moon rotating, view an individuals history by using their mind as a focal point to see through time, and to detect raw materials within a planet and draw them to the surface by will.

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>>82420699

>>82418931
>Writing an esasy on how it works

See Futurerama is so much simplier.

>>82420755
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBCTasRgFqo

>>82420655
>>82420493
Then bringing up his book collection is irrelevant. Why even mention it?

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>Chaos control > speedforce

>>82420836
I like Edgehog and all, but I don't think Chaos Control is actually that powerful.

I might be wrong, though.

>>82419446
Don't have the pic that compares the stands to VCR buttons. But thats all the final boss stands are.

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/tg/ here.

We have flashslayer as a class.

>>82420829
Anon, there's 42 posters in this topic. Some of us are trying to explain that be knows his stuff. Some of us are pointing out that Big Two doesn't always give any more explaination (seriously, Stands are NO more bullshit than Meta/X-Gene). And some of us are just calling you an autistic sperg for getting this butthurt.

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>>82419555
>>82417994
>>82418277
Wait, GER can do that? I thought it just touched you and you were in a forever loop of dying.

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>>82420936

>>82420977
That wasn't even me who made those posts.
You could have just said he used his knowledge from the books to write it.
Instead you try to be an elitist asshole over it. Get over yourself.

>>82421092
That too. But in order to touch Diavolo he needed to counter his power.

>>82421092
It can do that too.

>>82419711
>>82419651
I thought GER wore off at the end of the fight.

Like the arrow popped out and it downgraded back to regular Gold Experience.

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>complaining about manga logic
>in a thread about speed force

>>82421141
Not what I was thinking but it'll do.

>>82419767
>>82419711
Pretty sure both didn't survive as they have had new versions appear. SBR has the old man with Rohan hair and Jojolion has a kid who looks like little Giorno

>>82421259
I thought SBR universe =/= post-time skip universe. The universe you see at the end of Part 6 is exactly the same as the old one, just with the Joestars replaced with not dead versions (Irene) while the SBR universe has too much shit changed around. I gotta reread part 6.

The thing is(if we are talking about Wally) is HOW are they going to counter a guy going "Fuck You, I OUTRAN DEATH" fast.

>>82419555
Not EoH Dio :^)

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>>82421368
I think the answer is we barely know till Araki directly does something, and then he changes his mind anyway

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>>82421141
>Ringo could've become the president of any country if he tried enough.
>Instead he jerks off in a plum orchard waiting for people to duel him for the rest of his life.

>>82420076
If I remember right it was a combination of Avalon, Saber's high Luck, and her ridiculous magic resistance that made it possible to avoid Gae Bolg and even then there was still about a 50/50 chance of it killing her anyway. And unlike other Noble Phantasms Gae Bolg doesn't require much mana to use so there was nothing stopping Lancer from just using it again and again until the coin toss came up in his favor if Kirei hadn't called him back. Really having Kirei as a master gimped Lancer hard, he would have been an absolute beast otherwise.

>>82421394
How would they counter "it doesn't matter how fast you are, I will literally borrow your kinetic energy and go faster"?
Nigga ran around four other speedsters 11 million times so fast they couldn't perceive it, ran to every single radio on earth and changed the station AND outran instantaneous travel at the same time.
There is literally no one faster when he can borrow your kinetic energy.

>>82421459
what part of TRUE MAN'S WORLD don't you get?

>>82418280
>tfw when Flashpoint Batman can beat GER

>>82421459
Ringo was a cowboy and a mercenarie. He didn't wanted to run anything, just to prove himself as a man.

>>82421223
These discussions are always reduced to this:
>Lel look at all this animu powers non-sense
>guys, speedforce and supes' powers are totally legit
is like a "my dad can beat your dad" discussion

>>82419685
Didn't Barry once get shot and felt the bullet touching his skin, so he moved out of the way?

>>82421213
It did

>>82421588
Why do we even have this fucking discussions?
>tfw retards only know Flash and Superman
>tfw Doom Patrol or Constantine can fuck everybody in JoJo

>>82421606
Yes.
In another time in a what if, Batman shot him in the head, as soon as it touched him he started vibrating to phase through the bullet. It would have worked but batman had prepared a special bullet that would match his vibrational frequency if he tried that.
Crazy yes, but it's more probable than him just stabbing him.

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>>82421822
>Constantine
Can't summon anything if you kill or control everything in Heaven, Hell, and everywhere in-between.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut John should be a SMT character, he would fit in rather well.

>>82421498
GER negates the fact that he can borrow kinetic energy. Fucking kek m8 you lose already, stop fighting it

>>82421857
Did why not speed hax even faster? Shouldn't be a thing for Flash and Zoom.

>>82421899
Hell no, I want John in the big leagues, and that means JoJo.. I like SMT but no.

>>82421822
I don't want the Quiz anywhere near Jojoverse, it'd give him too many crazy ideas.
>"Interesting, today I think I'll have the power to convert time into centrifugal force. Good luck thinking of this one nerds!"

>>82421927
quit being such a faggot. I wasn't asking in a "my vs yours" kind of way. I was genuinely curious.
I can see why the jojos fanbase is considered one of the most obnoxious.

>>82422003
Imagine The brotherhood of Dada, Red Jack and The Decreator in JoJo.

GER is Power man level of bullshit.

In any imaginary fight GER is the guy that just say "it doesn't work". It doesn't matter if you can rewrite the concept of not working into working in order to collapse the wavefunction of the crystal gems to power a multidimensionator to select a multiverse where it works.

It just don't.

>>82422003
>the power to convert time into centrifugal force
Please tell me this isn't really a power that appeared. I don't follow Jojo from SBR

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>>82417515

>>82422049
>I got btfo and have no counter

Flash loses

>>82422049

See >>82419555

>>82422095
What about that one SCP?

>>82421927
You know, Black Alice can do that shit too.

>>82418470
To be fair, it's an atomic powered banana peel.

>>82421394
>>82421498
>>82421927
>>82422108
>>82419555
Black Alice can borrow GER powers. GER loses. Stop being a moron.

>>82422108
Sure, you got me.

>>82422122
I have no idea what one you are talking about. Aren't there like multiple thousands of them?

>>82417515
Powerman. Now stop this faggotry
You do want to be a manly adonis, right?

>>82422168
>Black Alice tries to borrow GER powers
>GER cancels it
Lawyered.

>>82422168
What part of it doesn't work you didn't get? She can't borrow anything because borrowing doesn't work.

If it require an action, any kind of it, it can be countered by GER.

>>82422168
GER is psychic, not magical.

>>82422175
I forget which number it is.
But it's power is literally anything you throw at it will not work, even if it should it just won't.
They had god try to fight it, but god couldn't see it because he didn't create it or some bullshit like that. It was OP as fuck, and the community got autistic as fuck over it being unbeatable.

>>82422214
Do you know Black Alice stole Spectre's powers right? He is something like ''the wrath of god''. And if GER can cancel power absortion, then Black Alice can cancel GER power cancellation.

>>82422168
Black Alice could try to borrow those powers.

But the effect of her attempt would be negated by GER.

if she's the cause of an action and attempts to enforce an effect that effect will not work. GER operates on the very concept of cause/effect as it occurs.

>>82421459
Out of all the time powers in Jojo, Ringo had one of the best ones he seriously couldve done anything had he used it right

>>82422256
And yet Black Alice is able to steal Wonder Woman powers, and Wondie is not a magic character.

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This bitch

>>82422275
>He is something like ''the wrath of god''.
Sure but GER is double arrowed, so, that's just another level.

>>82422095
No, I just tried to think of a jojo-esque power by thinking about what two natural laws would be super dangerous to fuck with even slightly.

>>82422229
What about someone like that guy from Heroes?
He didn't have to do anything to take someone's powers it just automatically happened when he got near them.

>>82422261
>But it's power is literally anything you throw at it will not work, even if it should it just won't.

So, SCP has GER?

>>82422324
Over a character that is one of God traits?
>>82422323
fuck off weeaboo

>>82422362
>Over a character that is one of God traits?

Isn't the role of the Specter to job to anybody who is the current great menace?

>>82422095
GER turns the world into a turn based game.
And you don't get a turn.

>>82422362
>Over a character that is one of God traits?
Dude.

He got hit by a space arrow [Twice].

That's [One] times more than [One]. In fact you could say, that it is [One] in [Addition] to [One]. In short, it happened [Twice].

>>82417515
Is this Comic book any good? I see it on /co/ everytime

>>82422334

Curiously I think that would actually work if he stay in place and it's Giorno that comes near him. Otherwise GER just negate him coming near.

>>82422343
Who's SCP?

>>82422343
I guess. Would they negate eachother? Or would anything happen at all?

>>82422095
Basically this. GER only exists because the writer basically wrote himself into a corner.

>>82422430
Super Cool Phil, he's related to Power Man.

>>82422417
It's not a comic, it's a mango. It's JoJo' bizarre adventure. It's good but jojofags are shitposters who likes to dick on /co/ because /a/ isn't enough for them.

>>82422343
So he is Acceletator from Index?

>>82422417
It's pretty good, the fans are cancer but you shouldn't let that affect your enjoyment of things.
There are currently 8 parts each 100 or so chapters (except the first two which are short) that cover a different protagonist and emulate a different sytle and setting. All of which feature crazy character designs and ridiculous powers.

>>82418931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm2D7ohWos0

>>82417515

>Implying Flash loses to japs or slants

>>82422410
But could he beat Squirrel Girl?

>>82422275
>if GER can cancel power absortion, then Black Alice can cancel GER power cancellation.
No. She can't. She can't do anything. She can't think, she can't move, she can't even die unless GER says so.
GER is hopelessly overpowered, in a series were being overpowered is the the law of the land.

>>82422390
>Isn't the role of the Specter to job to anybody who is the current great menace?
You haven't read Kingdom Come don't you?

>>82420101
(You)

>>82422521
This.
If we were in WWII he would lose by the strength of our sheer patriotism.

>>82422521
but that's an italian, anon

>>82422505
He's basically Accellerator as a level 6, when his power stop applying only to vectors and start applying to methaphysical shit and start acting outside time.

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>>82422314

>>82422538
>No. She can't. She can't do anything. She can't think, she can't move, she can't even die unless GER says so.
GER is hopelessly overpowered, in a series were being overpowered is the the law of the land.
Wtf are you talking about? In JoJo, the most dangerous stand users are the smarters one, not the most broken. This is not DB or Bleach. Have you read SBR? Or Vento Aureo? The guy with Talking Heads was really dangerous and his stand's ability was laughable.
In b4
>what is MiH or D4C?

>>82422541
I read it years ago, and from what I remember he just show everything that happen at a guy and in the end... what does it do in the end? It's Billy that "solves" the situation. I can't honestly remember anything that he does escept acting as a framing device.

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>>82422580
>Haruno Shiobana
>Italian

>>82422640
The villains are the ones with broken abilities AND intelligence.

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>>82422610

>>82422710
Technically he is half british

>>82422710
Isn't he the son of a vampire with the body of an englishmen? How the fuck that work?

>>82422168
GER is defensive, copying its powers would do fuck all.

>>82422725
>The villains are the ones with broken abilities AND intelligence.
I don't know how to answer because it's true but Weather Report and The Hand were pretty broken
>in be4 Okuyasu
GER is shit/broken af and Tusk Act 4 was pretty op af too.

>>82422710
It's setted on Italy anon.

>>82422787
step 1;take vampire head and sew it on to a an englishmen's body.
step 2: get a japanese chick pregnant
step 3: japanese chick goes to Italy to and changes sons name to sound more Italian

>>82418455
You are retarded for other reasons, but this one is the most special:

>Flash could kill this guy before his ghost buddy manifests.

Idiots like you always make arguments like these in powerwank threads, acting as if Superman, or the Flash or anyone like that would suddenly act completely out of character and narrative and IMMEDIATELY use their powers in the most maximally efficient possible way without blinking, when every story ever written about them says otherwise.

>>82422867
Gio isn't Italian, his father is english and his mom is japanese. He was just raised in Italy and changed his name.

>>82422830
>Weather Report

Goddamned weather report. Someone can explain how the fuck people don't understand King Crimson but "slug everywhere because of hypnotic suggestion from rain" instead it's perfectly understandable?

How the fuck did it work?

>>82422787
The vampire head came from a guy called Dio Brando, so he is ethnically italian as well as culturally.

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>>82417924
>bullshit manga logic while shit like speed force exists

>>82422906
I posted ''this happens on Italy'', not that he was born on Italy.

>>82422830
Weather Report on his own was pretty broken but Weather Report manipulated by a villain was somehow even MORE broken.

>The sun's rays have subliminal messages that turn people into slugs

What in the FUCK

>>82420755
>his stand has a horse cock

>>82422910
It's the subliminal "messages" in the rainbows, which is why Pucci was able to avoid it when he used his own stand to literally rip the ability to see out of himself. Stone Ocean really did push the paranormal aspect of things to a whole new level.

>>82422910
Because King Crimson was the victim of poor translations for an already complicated Stand. By Stone Free, they got decent ones, so we just accepted Heavy Weather as easily as we accept Speed Force and X-Gene.

Speaking of, Weather Report (no Heavy Weather) vs. Storm. Who wins?

>>82422910
>>82422956
Don't even try anon. I am still trying to understand how some mafia gangsta stand ability was ''to make others tell lies''. It's pretty stupid.
Yet, it was also a pretty dangerous stand.

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All he has to do is turn around.

>>82417924
It's defensive and seemingly automatic, you will THINK you hit him but that will just be reduced to "zero" and you will be back where you started.

You REALLY REALLY don't want to get punched by Golden Experience Requiem.

>>82422996
Stone Ocean was overall pretty great.

It's a shame Japan doesn't like Jolyne because she's a girl who isn't moe.

>>82422956
Weather Report was unbelievably broken, but that was basically every power in part 6, except for Jolyne, who was stuck using strings to punch people. I think that's the main reason it's my favorite.

>>82422803
But she still can copy those powers.

>>82422941
I'm Italian and the start of that part was pretty hilarious

>Character arrive at Napoli
>Get's robbed within 5 minutes
>He use a stand to stop the robber
>The robber has a fucking stands

Because you know that if stands actually existed it's exactly what would happen in the real world.

>>82422956
Weather wasn't under control, he just got his memories back and he bounced back HARD. The fact that the villain himself was scared shitless made the whole thing unsettling.

>>82423067
No, she can try to copy his powers, but her attempts will be reduced to 0. Any interaction she will make towards GER will be reduced to 0.

Leave it to the nips to come up with dumber shit than Speedforce

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>>82423017

Everything about King Crimson made sense once the Futurama comparison was made.

>>82423063
Araki does a good job of making non-moe girls. Jolyne, Hot Pants, Trish, and Yasuho are all just pretty badass without being cutesy. Yasuho's posture does a really good job of making her come off as ungainly even with his "everybody's a model" arty style

>>82423105
forced meme
>>82423092
you know, I still have my doubts about GER beign invincible because Black Alice is pretty broken.

>>82423067
Anon, you don't get it. You remember when you were a wee little shit in school, and when you played pretend at the playground, there was that one fucking scrote who went "NUH UH, IT DIDNT WORK!"
GER is that fucking kid. He literally only exists because the villain was super broken, so he gave the heroes something even more broken.

>>82423017
Weather Report has more bullshit applications even without Heavy Weather. I'm pretty sure Storm can't make it rain poisonous frogs.

>>82423157
It was a logical end to Part 5 though, not an asspull, because everything had built up to getting that stand arrow that gives requiem stands, whoever got it would be guaranteed to win.

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>Re-builds the slow ray from an episode
>Lures Barry in with the most obvious of traps
>He falls for it, and is rendered slow for life
>Scratch and Grounder fuck up anyway and allow Barry to regain his speediness

>>82423157
>We could have had Fugo overkill everybody
>Instead we got GER

>>82423174
Yeah, but Storm's got pure power on her side and a mobility advantage. Weather Report can't fly or shoot lightning from his hands.

>>82423195
I wanna see this

>>82423155
>you know, I still have my doubts about GER beign invincible because Black Alice is pretty broken.
There's nothing to doubt.

Anything Black Alice would or could do will be reduced to 0. That is the beginning and end of this discussion.

>>82423226
Not so.

Black Alice could just duplicate his abilities and negate them before he negates hers.

>>82423193
It was an asspull anon. The first time he got hit with the arrow nothing happened.

>>82423226
This clearly isn't everything, though, since it didn't stop the universe from rebooting.

>>82423253
Different arrow.

>>82423259
Can GER and Flash stop the world from rebooting?

>>82423259
Because it wasn't GER at the time, probably.

>>82423250
>Black Alice could just duplicate his abilities
That's an action.
It's reduced to 0.
GER wins.

>>82423259
GER didn't exist. At the end of the fight, the arrow popped out of the stand, and it turned back into normal Gold Experience. It was a temporary power-up, like digivolution.

>>82423250
>Black Alice could just duplicate his abilities and negate them before he negates hers.

Yeah she just need to be faster than the guy that exist outside time and canonically fuck over someone that removes future events from existence.

>>82423259
He wasn't there, but he was apparently immune to the effects.

>>82423314
Not canon.

>>82423293
She can duplicates the power of someone who can do that.
Let's talk about another stands. Who win
Hol Horse or Jonah Hex? And Hex can't see stands.

>>82423350
Depends on who finds the other first. Hex probably beats him in a QuickDraw, but if Hol Horse spots him first, he'd be able to shoot him behind cover.

>>82423350
>She can duplicates the power of someone who can do that.
It won't matter, because GER already beat that person, that's why anon brought him up.

>>82423350

>very skilled gunman vs man with invisible/silent gun with homing bullets

Hol Horse, no contest.

>>82423350
>someone who can do that
Like who? Michael Mcdoesn'texist?

>>82423415
Professor Zoom? Fast Forward?
>>82423391
And between Gyro and Hex? Hex doesn't know what are the steel balls before the fight.

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GER x GER?

>>82418931
This is incorrect. There isn't a correct one. it is broken. If the power would work the way it's described to work it would be completely useless as it would erase everything including effects or knowledge gained, making it a sort of reset button except useless because the user wouldn't remember why he used it and correct his actions accordingly. Rather, it has holes pocked in it for the very reason to make it somehow useful to the wielder. It is BAD WRITING on Araki's part and shouldn't be defended or made-out to be something else.

>>82418931
>overthinking this much something that doesn't deserve it

>>82423289
Why didn't GER nulify the arrow popping out?

>>82423479
I didn't read SBR but I don't think those fucking steel balls are faster than a bullet. Plus, it's Hex

>>82418280
Actually yes it is, there's a Wally West issue where it happens and it happens way before speed force shenanigans

>>82423493
It's basically just The World, except when time resumes, it skips the amount of time it was paused for. It's not that bad.

>>82418854
That's why I never took seriously this kind of trheads.

>>82423521
Go read it now and enter [TRUE MAN'S WORLD]

>>82418280
They do include being shot in the back of the head while unaware and instinctively going into super speed and dodging it when it touches his skin.

>>82419592
He loses on personal level but his side wins on the grand scale. Much better than the reverse. Besides him losing doesn't mean his opponent winning.

>>82423545
Really? That's why you never took powerlevel threads seriously? Not because they're inherently bullshit, ignoring the basic pillars of narrative structure? Boy, you sure are mature and intelligent, only taking some powerlevel threads seriously.

Can Flash outrun infinity?

>>82423521
>Plus, it's Hex
You are right on that. Hex is cowboy Constantine in terms of dickery and marksmanship.

>>82423588
Do I have to explicitly put that I don't take ANY KIND of power shit threads seriously? For fucksake.

>>82423605
Only smaller infinities. The big ones are too big

>>82419592
Constantine can fuck with him.

>>82419712
underrated post

>>82418280
>the guy was literally facing the other way and didn't expect it
The same thing happened in the movie, just with a gunshot.

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GER x Molecule Man.

>>82423517
Because it was cool with not being GER all the time because it didn't want to be too powerful.

All Giorno wanted to do was be a gangster star.

>>82423753
Now the jojofag who is shitposting about GER will lost his mojo

>>82423531
It's nothing like the world. CK should supposedly erase everything in that space of time from existence, yet it makes unexplained exceptions to that rule. If it would work properly, it would literally do nothing from a normal person's perspective as all that happened and all consequences of it would be erased.. The only one who could even notice that this power was activated at some point is a time god who would notice that the world is explainably a few minutes younger than it is according to his clock.

>>82423793
I'm just telling you, in the way it's implemented, it works like The World, but it skips time.

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>>82423791
His Jojo Mojo?

>>82423605
Prolly, get Morrison to write some weird convoluted reason.

>>82423817
I would prefer Kirby if he was alive.

Man I'm just about to start Part 3, can't wait until all the crazy shit begins.

>>82423823
So, what you beat him doing nothing? And how can he win if they aren't fighting. Besides MM can nullify GER also. This would be like watching 2 metapods fighting.

>>82423854
Kirby never did get to write Flash did he?
That's a fucking crime.

>>82423893
Part 3 is the weakest imo. Jojo drops off after 2, for me, until the second half of 4

Why can't flash go back in time before he had the stand?

>>82423900
>So, what you beat him doing nothing?
Beating him would be an action.
GER reduces it to 0.
GER wins.

>Besides MM can nullify GER also.
Nullifying GER is an action.
GER reduces it to 0.
GER wins.

>>82423823
What if I sent some hot chick to seduce Giorno, he chills and backup GER, then hot chick hit him and KO him. Can this be done or it's just to stupid?

>>82418280
Let me explain why this is bullshit
>Super speed means super fast senses
>As soon as the sword touched Thawnes back he would have felt it and avoided it before it pierced him

>>82423967
How you win a fight you aren't actually fighting?
>>82423966
That would be Zoom. Flash can't do that. Zoom can. Zoom would do it and KILL Haruno before even going to Italy.

>>82424016
What an unnecessary post, multiple people have already explained why it's stupid.

>>82424060
>How you win a fight you aren't actually fighting?
Not fighting is an action.
GER reduces it to 0.
GER wins.

>>82420125
A really big japanese man

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GER x Death.

>>82424073
kek
>>82424016
because he is the godamn Batman anon

>>82424007
>What if I sent some hot chick to seduce Giorno
Seduction is an action.
GER reduces it to 0.
GER wins.

>>82424105
Dying is an action.
GER reduces it to 0.
GER wins.

>>82424089
Now you are just trolling.

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I deeply dislike that stand and everything it stands for and means in the jojo setting

it's probably the worst thing to be done with the franchise so far

>>82424122
>GER is not activated
>Giorno is KO
>Hot chick wins

>>82424170
fuck, you beat me to it

>>82424181
>GER is not activated
Then she didn't beat GER.

>>82423967
What if you do antiactions?

>>82424226
GER reduces it to 0, so you're trapped in a loop where you ALMOST don't do the action before being whipped away into a random scenario where you will continuously attempt to ALMOST don't do the action over and over, never not quite doing the action.

>>82424262
What if you are a Doom Patrol villain?

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What if we divide GER by 2?
GER reduces it to 0
Now GER divide by 0.

>>82424262
Isn't that how Diavolo ended?

>>82424313
Why would "2" be reduced? "2" isn't an action.

Don't be SILLY.

>>82424262
What if the antiaction was not killing him.

Can we discuss about other stands? GER is invincible, we get it.
Now what about Black Sabbath, The Emperor or Limp Bizkit?

>>82424311
Then you'll make a monologue during the whole thing.

>>82424365
.................................................... it's reduced to 0

>>82424412
What if the action was living him?

>>82424370
Discussing other stands is an action.
GER reduces it to 0.
GER wins.

>>82424412
What if I travel in time and kill Giorno and GE before he became GER.

>>82424443
>>82424412
What if you're Nyralie and have acausality among other godlike powers and a nonexistence nature with the capability of omniversal destruction?

>>82424370
Cannibal Corpse?

>>82424443
What if my power it's to nullify everything, even OP stands?
>in before nullify is an action, GER reduces to 0, GER wins

>>82424512
That's not an stand anon.

This is getting out of hand.

>>82424060
Flash has changed the past several times, what are you talking about? The current universe literally only exists because Flash changed the past twice.

>>82424518
>in before nullify is an action
Well.
It is.

>>82424577
>The current universe literally only exists because editorial interference.
Fixed

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[AUTISM INTENSIFIES]

>>82424589
Not if it's not actually being realized and instead simply - is -.

>>82424657
No please! NOT THE GURRAN LAGAN.

>>82424565
Guess what getting out of hand is?

>GER wins

Is this thread seriously 300 posts arguing about Flash's power level without anyone bringing up Flash's absolutely absurd power creep?

>>82424715
No, it's actually about GER power level.

>>82424715
It's actually 300 posts of GER wins.

>>82424710
Is getting out of hand an action?

>>82424715
This thread is a GER thread now

>>82419957

To be fair, Flash has to build up his speed to get to absurdity levels. He doesn't go from 0 to lightspeed

>>82418280
Can someone edit this with Batman killing Giorno (and GER) with the sword.

Can we talk about how stupid The World Over Heaven is and how it's bullshit that it could even attack Jonathan?

>>82424657
>Not if it's not actually being realized and instead simply - is -.
"Is" is a verb.
Making it an action.

>>82424820
Read Human Race.

>>82424771
It was about JoJo, not GER.

>>82424834
Not if it doesn't depend on causality. You still need to explain it to humans in terms of actions, but there are more than one character that can make things happen without them happening or actually doing anything.

Which is basically the same level of 「Bullshit」 as GER.

Why do authors resort to nonsensical NO U powers as the ultimate powers?

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>>82422095
>>82422331
Now I want to see this as an actual power
>The Quiz's stand 「Questions of my childhood」 causes events to move outward from a point rather than forward along a timeline.

>>82422261
this one, yeah?

http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-682

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>>82421822

>Constantine can fuck everybody in JoJo

He would have an interesting fight with young Joseph tho. Just imagine the both of them trying to pull smartass shit to fuck with each other.

>>82424122
>GER's powers work on the Endless because I love hentai
Jesus wept

What if some meta human like Metamorpho becomes air and gets in Giorno's lungs?

>>82422710
eat your spaghetti, haruno

>>82425061
becoming something is an action, 0, ect

>>82423409
Hex's bullets go further than Hol's though.

>>82424828
What it does?

>>82424937
make things happen without them happening is an action.
GER reduces it to 0
GER wins.

>>82425061
What if DCAU Amazo adapted to his power nullification? And then he nullifies him again and he keeps adapting?
It'd be an endless loop.

>>82425012
>One has hamon
>The other has magic
That would be funny as fuck anon. An american and an englishman trying to prove who has the best tricks.

>>82425170
that's the contrair of an action actually
>>82425187
Indeed. At least, no one win.

>>82424828
I haven't gotten the game yet

>>82425170
It's not an action, it's how the world is friendo :^)

>he thinks GER affects things outside of existence that don't belong in space or time and that don't belong in the chain of cause and effect
W-E-W

>>82424999
I didn't knew I wanted this until now. Imagine what Flex Mentallo would do.

>>82425255
>that's the contrair of an action actually

Even if it's -1 instead of 1 it's still reduced to 0.

>>82425274
>It's not an action

While the thing happening without happening don't do actions the act of making them happening without them happening is still an act.

Also if it doesn't belong it the chain of cause and effect GER would be already not existing, but it clearly exist as I can conferm by reading the manga.

So in the end his existing is the proof that exists.

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Can tzeentch beat GER?

>>82418931
>>82423493 is right, blood drops contradict this theory

>>82425207
They are both English m8, both scousers even.

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Better question
Are there any comic characters who could beat Mista in a gunfight?

>>82425490
>one iteration equals all iterations
So you're assuming because GER exists in one iteration it should exist in all?
Mind you this is hypothetical and not practical, because in practice if it happened you wouldn't even know it happened.

>it's still an act
No, it isn't. :^) (aka "no you", which is what you're doing)

>>82425681
Boomerang

>>82425490
The problem lies in borders of GER power, like could you explain, if stand user tries to kill himself, will this power save him? Could I target people around GEN-user, to make him suffer?

>>82425816
>Implying an Aussie can get a gun permit, much less a gun in the totalitarianstan that is Oz

>>82418277
>Negation of anything
Flash is faster than his negation, sorry

>>82421513
>>82421578
>>82422293
>>82421459
people don't forget what happens you retads

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>>82423816
Step it up, sempai.

>>82417924
Gold Experience is pretty bullshit. IIRC, Flash's punches would hit the guy with the weird hair, but the impact of the punches would hit him.

It's basically "Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!" the Stand.

Gold Experience: Requiem is even more bullshit. Only time it was used, it basically put the guy into a Groundhog's Day situation, but instead he kept on dying, over and over.

And that's why a skinny little fuccboi runs the italian mob now.

>>82425835
>if stand user tries to kill himself, will this power save him?

I think that, if the Stand in question is capable of defending the user from self-harm, then it will. Anything outside the ability of the stand to defend the user from self-harm would probably kill the user.

Case in point, Jotaro in the jail-cell shooting himself with the gun. It was within Star Platinum's ability to catch the bullet mid-air without incurring harm to Jotaro.

>>82423523
Aren't Zoom's abilities unique in that they have absolutely nothing to do with the Speedforce?

>>82426104
>it basically put the guy into a Groundhog's Day situation, but instead he kept on dying, over and over.
flash would fast right out of that shit though

>>82425932
also, everything from jojo is a faggot, so they lose to everything that isn't a faggot
but mainly it's that the flash is faster than

>>82426174
It's literally an inescapable death loop. Jojo has a bunch of bullshit with 'FATE' so no matter what happens, after every death he is fated to die again, no matter what he does.
Giorno calls it 'end without end'.

>>82426104
Part 5, in general, felt like Araki writing himself into a corner.

>Oh shit, one of the members of the Giorno Gang has an AoE Stand that was actually more OP than I initially, though. Oh well, better send him packing on a bus
>Oh shit, one of the mook stands is an unstoppable killing force that can party wipe the gang. Oh well, at least I can now introduce a stand to the party escort that won't have as much relevance after this encounter
>Oh shit, the main villain has an extremely powerful defensive/counter-offensive stand that just works. Oh well, better give the MC the ultimate defensive ability to counteract the bullshit that just works.

I think that it didn't help that the translations were terrible.