Captain America: Civil War

>>82417063
I prefer Avengers 1, it was more fun desu

>>82417178
Every ups have their downs. Tony certainly did.

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So anons, you've been put in charge of a post-Infinity War Zemo movie. All the MCU Villains and heros are alive again because muh reality gem.
Do you do Thunderbolts or Masters of Evil?
Who's on your team?
How do you give him a sword, coat and purple hood?

>>82417178
I prefer Avengers 2

>>82417428
Thunderbolts with Bucky leading. End of Infinity War 1 has Cap dying and through bullshit he briefly comes back to life in 2, Bucky tells him that he wants to take over the mantle and Cap tells him that he doesn't trust him to, instead giving the mantle to Falcon. Bucky gets pissed and becomes an anti-hero and leads the thunderbolts.

>>82417063
Either this or Winter Soldier, yes.

>>82417467
More like Cap or somebody asks Bucky to take it up and he turns it down because he doesn't want to deal with the pressure.

I could see Zemo leading the Thunderbolts without real intentions of redemption and Bucky ends up kicking his ass and taking over.

>>82417467
Bucky is too riddled with self-doubt for that to happen.

>>82417595
Yeah but is Sebastian Stan charismatic enough to pull off a lead character? From what I understand he's the shy guy who gets bullied a lot on set for being quiet.

>>82417428
>How do you give him a sword, coat and purple hood?
He tries to escape, Ross shoot him in the face with a shotgun or a missile, now he's deformed, and he has to wear the purple mask.

The sword is a vibranium sword he stole from Wakanda with the help of Klaw.

The Thunderbolts rooster is: Zeemo, Klaw, Bullseye (If we got him in DD S3 or in Defenders), Mitchell Carson with a Antman suit and some minor villain from Spiderman reboot

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>Cap wasn't able to protect his smile

>>82417695
He was likeable enough in the first Cap film and was one of the only tolerable characters in Once Upon a Waste of My Time.

>>82417063
>is the MCU's best so far
that would be impressive if the simple minded, easily impressed critics didn't said it every time a mcu movie comes out

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>>82417778
You mean HER smile

>>82417722
The Thunderbolts roster needs to have Fixer and Songbird.

>>82417937
DON'T

>>82417874
If anything most critics are saying it's completely mediocre.

Seriously read the reviews on RT, many of them say it's average but they still give it a fresh for some reason.

>>82417874
I mean take me as a dirty fanboy if you want but that's usually the truth. Dips occasionally but Avengers, TWS, GoTG and now here, the bar keeps getting raised and they meet it.

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>>82417937
Only Simon Williams can protect Wanda's smile

>>82418087
F I L L I O N

>>82417695
BuckyCap doesn't need to be as charismatic as SteveCap.

In fact, he struggles a bit with the legacy because of it.

>>82417937
This pleases the Bendis

>>82417695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skb0wvKe_N8
>that indignation when his teen photos get posted on the screen
Heh. Boseman is so cool.

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>>82417063
Yes. I actually felt really bad for the manlet in the end.

Didn't really like how the used Crossbones, but otherwise I enoyed it.

>>82418288
>Crossbones doesn't stick around
>His move to freelance work could've set him up for Thunderbolts
>Based Grillo is gone
I'm serious when I say that this is my only complaint about Civil War, but it is one that will nag me.

>>82412610
From the sounds of this, Part One of Infinity War is gonna be Masters of Evil or something like that, probably Zemo leading, while Part Two will be Thanos.

But what would Zemo want with an Infinity Gem?

>>82418388
>But what would Zemo want with an Infinity Gem?
Power to destroy the Avengers and make the world the way he thinks it should be, the usual

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I'm doing my graduate thesis right now and I'm so stressed, all I want is to see the movie so I can relax for a couple of hours. Only two more days, save me from this hell Marvel.

Sorry for the blogpost.

>>82417937
>gif
>image doesn't move
Fuck you, I always expect a jumpscare or something.

>>82418528
>Power to destroy the Avengers
He already did

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>>82418252
>Bucky ends in a freezer agains
>Tony watched how his parents were killed, almost killed by his own friend, abandoned by most of his team, Pepper probably left him too, and with the remorse of killing civilians and betraying his own friends
>Cap without his suit or shield, his bff got canned again, almost killed his friend (And almost killed by him too), fugitive
>Most Avengers are fugitives
>WM now is Wheelchair Machine
>Wanda now knows that most people fear her for her powers
>The whole BP and Zemo dialogue

This is probably the saddest and most human MCU movie to date. So many feels.

>>82418613
In what?

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>>82418714
Economics.

I'm probably going to switch to the IT field because I hate this shit.

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>>82418252
>You don't deserve my dad's love, I DID! ;__;

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>>82418388
I'm guessing the Black Order will show up as Thanos' vanguard

>>82418782
I was thinking of doing an economics degree, i love the subject

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>>82418799
>My dad never loved me
>he loved me though

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>>82418841
Well if you're passionate about it you should go for it. I chose the degree in the heat of the moment because I didn't know what to do in the future and I wasn't passionate about anything. I realized it's not for me and I'd rather work in IT, but yeah if you really like economics I'd say it's a good degree.

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>>82418955
eerily prescient

>>82418665
Turns out you need both light and dark moments to make the dark moments matter. The serious/sad scenes in this wouldn't have had the same impact if it wasn't for the mostly lighthearted tone of the franchise.

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>>82418989
Would be better without the third and fourth panels.

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>>82418969
Was Tony's father really a bad father? What was his problem

>>82419139
Ignoring his kid mostly, but to be fair most fathers are like this

>>82419139
Implied alcoholic, spent the majority of the time he could have used developing a relationship with his son on searching for/gushing about Cap.

>>82419139
We know he was cold and absent much of his life, and put Tony down so he could wank off about Cap. The tie-in comics imply he was also physically abusive at times but we don't know if they count as canon.

>>82419257
>>82419247
>>82419213
>>82419139
Holy shit really? He looked so nice in the first Cap Movie what a piece of shit

>>82417063
It's my favourite of the MCU so far, my favourites are
- Civil War
- Winter Soldier
- Guardians of the Galaxy
- Iron Man
- The Avengers

>>82419345
People change over time. Howard was a good friend and loyal to Cap, not so much a good father,

I'am tired of characters with daddy issues. Also, What are the writers problems with the fathers? I can barely think of any character with mommy issues. Its the dad all the fucking time

>>82419345
I think that was the point. IM2 sets him up as a jerk who means well, but is still a big jerk. Then in Cap 1 he's a super chill guy. The contrast is supposed to hit you hard. Although Agent Carter went a little more into him and his problems.

>>82419405
Daddy issues is the root of all evil. didn't you know anon?

>>82416792
> It all depends on Steve and Stephen's mentoring, Clint's anchoring her to her roots, giving her the strength to hold on. Her friends are vital.

> ...but Chthon eagerly might want her to destroy the infinity stones thus remaking the universe as devoid of order to his liking.

> Imagine she loses it and the guy who walks up to an enraged Wanda, who is frightened and despairing...and calms her is the guy with no powers, the seemingly insignificant...Hawkeye.

Fuck...the feels...and goes back to that line in AoU.

>>82417063
1. TWS/Civil War (can't choose right now)
2. Ant-Man
3. Cap 1
4. GotG
5. Avengers
6. Iron Man

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>>82417063
The only Movies in the MCU that i like are these:

Phase 1:

1. Iron Man
2. Incredible Hulk
3. Avengers

Phase 2:

1. Winter Soldier
2. Iron Man 3
3. Guardians Of The Galaxy

Phase 3:

1. Civil War

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>>82419481
>Doesn't enjoy ANTS

I don't think any movie can top Avengers for me. But this comes pretty fucking close.

1. Avengers.
2. Civil War.
3. Guardians of the Galaxy.
4. Winter Soldier.
5. Iron Man.
6. Ant-Man.

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>>82419460
>Hawkeye and Wanda feelings
DELETE THIS POST

>>82419481
I feel pretty much the same way, except I'd scratch Hulk off of there.

>>82419519
I haven't seen it yet

>>82419481
>Like Iron man 3
>Not liking Ant-man

>>82419552
This >>82419550

>>82419524
Avengers is such a strange movie for me. I don't enjoy it anymore on rewatches and objectively it's kinda weak compared to others, but at the time it was released that movie was my shit.

The pure joy I felt when I first saw it was amazing. I'll always rate it pretty high on my list because of that nostalgia factor I guess.

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>>82419550
>Not watching ANTS before Civil War
W E W

>>82419472
1- Iron Man
2- Guardian of the Galaxy
3- Civil War
4- Antman
5- Avengers 2

>>82419606
>Avengers is such a strange movie for me. I don't enjoy it anymore on rewatches and objectively it's kinda weak compared to others, but at the time it was released that movie was my shit.
>The pure joy I felt when I first saw it was amazing. I'll always rate it pretty high on my list because of that nostalgia factor I guess.
I felt the same, Avengers 1 is almost unwatchable, Avengers 2 is better IMO

>>82417063

I don't know about 'best', but top three or two for sure. Goddamn. Just saw it.

>>82419622
Well, i'am not into Hero Movies so much anymore. I hate how each year we have like 3 or 5 Movies. Its getting tiresome and since i don't read Comics i don't really know many characters so i don't give a fuck. From now on im just watching important Hero Movies like Avengers and of course Spiderman

>>82419481
Phase 1:
Iron Man 1
Cap 1 (first half)
Avengers

Phase 2:
Iron Man 3
Winter Soldier
Ant-Man

Gonna see Civil War this Friday before I make judgement.

>>82419606
This. It's not an amazing movie on its own, but it was a fucking achievement when it came out. It changed capeshit and how other studios approach their comic book IP's. It was massive.

>>82419786
Yeah from now on I'm going to just see the movies from people I already like or the major ones. So Civil War, Black Panther, Ant-Man and the Wasp, and Infinity War for sure. Dr. Strange will probably be a skip, I'll hold out on Spider-Man, and Captain Marvel has good writers but unless they get a director I really like I'm probably also going to skip.

>>82418234
He seems kinda boring to me. Guess he's still really green at the whole interview thing.
Stan's only gotten big recently but he's done it enough he can coast by even if he's not super charming like Evans or Mackie.

Does CW and WS basically confirm the Russos are better than Whedon?

>>82419813
For that time it was one of the best superhero movies. Sure then we got TWS and GotG and Ant-Man and now Civil War, which you can arguably say they're much better. For 2012 though and at that time in the MCU, Avengers was really good.

Hell, I'd say it's still one of the better superhero movies. We tend to forget there's shit like Elektra/Catwoman/GL/Fantastic Four and others out there, Avengers is a masterpiece compared to those when it comes to the cape genre.

I would go as far as to say it's the best movie of the year

>The best
Civil War
Iron Man 1
Winter Soldier
Ant-Man
GOTG

>Okay
Iron Man 3+2
First Avenger
Avengers

>Meh
AOU
Incredible Hulk
Thor 1+2

>>82419917
This is objectively the best, at least in ranks. I'd bump Iron 1 one down to the bottom of Best tier, but that's me personally.

>>82419911
IMO it was better than Deadpool, which was fun but forgettable.

>>82419917
I'd bump GOTG and AOU into Okay and Thor 2 into shit but otherwise not bad.

>>82419986
AOU isn't really THAT bad of a popcorn movie imo. It's just incredibly lackluster compared to what we thought we were going to get.

>>82418623
>>82418528
>Implying it won't be using the Time or Soul Gem to bring his family back

>>82419899
At handling the characters, appropriate use of humor and action sequences, yes. The Russos are an upgrade.

>>82420062
I didn't even go in expecting that much and still came out with a resounding "eh". Lots of explosions, not very interesting and not very funny either, aside from some of the hammer gags.

>>82417063
Tony Stark is my favorite MCU villain

>>82420157
Mine is Scarlet Witch.

>>82420157
>>82420169
>not Vision
Plebs.

>>82420127
>>82419899

Whedon does visuals better
You can tell Russos are TV directors

>>82419903
Pretty much. People expect a lot more from cape movies today than they did in the early 2000's. We've been spoiled.

>>82420203
Dude. Duude.

>>82420169
Bendis pls, just accept that your character assassination failed

>>82419903
I rewatched Avengers 1 and still enjoyed it a fair amount. I think it aged alright. Now AOU on the other hand, just felt like an all around inferior product with the exception of somewhat improved cinematography.

>>82420062
The problem is that it was pretty the most hyped movie of the year. The only other movie that wa as hyped as AOU was Star wars.

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>>82420231
>makes Tony create Ultron
>let's Hulk loose in south africa
>kills even more niggers in CW
Not only she's a villain, but she's probably a nazi too with all the niggers she's killed, probably brainwashed by HYDRA.
They did well keeping her like that.

>>82420152
>not very interesting and not very funny either, aside from some of the hammer gags.

I'd rather have watched two hours of them getting drunk in the tower than what we got.

>>82417063
It's up there.

>>82420291
Probably the best part of the movie aside from Wanda and Vision. I'm not a moronic shipper so Hawkeye's family didn't piss me off but they were only OK, and the Banner/Widow romance was atrocious.

>>82420291
The party scene was really the highlight of the movie.

Should've just had a 2 hour party scene.

>>82420291
I wish we could have had another one.
I'd like to see Vision and Wanda drunk.

>>82417063
They were able to balance all of those characters & subplots so well.
It's uncanny.
I'm so confident about Infinity War now (pls no jinx).

>>82420203
Nah man. Everything looked better in CW and WS, especially the fight choreography. Whedon is a TV director too.

>>82419528
Was there a lot of WandaClint in CW?

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>>82420408
WISION MASTER RACE

>>82420341
Im a retarded shipper who liked ClintNat. I had no problem with the family. The Brucenat shit was terrible and so was the reasoning.

>>82420380
Not really, Russos can't deal with scale

And who cares about fight choerography? These aren't action movies, they're COMIC BOOK movies

>>82420380
The Russos are better at outsourcing the action scenes to more talented choreographers, plus Markus and McFeely have always been good about being economical and packing a lot of characterization per line so even bit characters like the SHIELD tech who returned in AoU and the redshirts who got wiped out by Bucky in the previous movie would leave a strong impression.

>>82420408
Daddyhawk saves Wanda from Stark imprisonment. Wanda makes sure he doesn't pull his punches in the big air port fight.

>>82420380
Speaking of fight choreography, they did a TV spot with the stunt team which was pretty fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NynnIB2EZ0E

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>>82420408
Well, Hawkeye was mostly there to protect her, but it was mostly Wanda and Vision.

>>82420475
Bah. So only like 2 scenes.

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>>82420466
>These aren't action movies, they're COMIC BOOK movies

>>82420466
>COMIC BOOK movies

Which is exactly why good fight choreography is essential, especially with super powered characters

Or else you end up with complete trash shaky cam, i-dont-know-whats-going-on action sequences like the bayformers movies

>>82420466
>Implying comic book movies like Avengers and CW aren't action movies

A big portion of the audience only pay to watch it in the cinema for the big fights.

>>82420466
Nah man. Watch everyone fighting in the background in AoU. Whedon's looks like rockem sockem bots.

I'll agree that the Russos don't have the best cinematography/CGI in this movie, but I think that was more of a budget (it had more varied effects and less sponsors than AoU), but Whedon isn't any better. Heck, Avengers 1 looks like shit. It looks like a tv-crew is filming it.

The Russos might be the worst at it from the phase 3 lineup, but they are better than Whedon for sure.

Gunn is the other way around. His cinematography is gorgeous but his fights are meh.

>>82420278
>shows Tony a fucking .gif which leads to him creating Ultron of his own choice
>probably does the exact same thing to Banner but because he's so volatile he hulks out
>inadvertently had 17 people die by accident but in doing so saved AT LEAST 3 times as many people
Bendis? Ross? Tony? Which one are you?

>>82420513
Clint isn't in it much. Either way, Wanda chooses to go with Clint rather than stay with Vision.

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"Cap, you're coming with us."
"And why should we?"
"Because it's US, Steve..."

Damn. I was team cap but this movie really made me like Stark a lot more. He knew how fucked the situation was with Ross in charge and just wanted everything to be okay for the people he saw as family, even if they hated him. Hawkeye's "sick burn" actually felt really harsh, considering Stark was entirely right about Clint knowing the consequences.

I went in thinking FINALLY we're going to see Stark get his smug face kicked in, and at the end, I just wanted to give him a hug. Fuck... I really hope he gets a bit of a recovery arc in Homecoming through bonding with Peter.

>>82420482
I wonder just how much of the action is the characters themselves? I remember a video for The Winter Soldier where it was mentioned Chris Evans had to do a lot of them because it's hard for the stuntmen to imitate his weird running style, and Sebastian Stan mentioned working on practicing the crazy knife stunts in his own time.

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>>82420576
Stop pretending she didn't know exactly what she was doing. She knew Tony would do something drastic and she knew Banner would Hulk out and make the Avengers look bad.

It's not until she sees inside Ultron's mind that she realizes how bad she and her brother fucked up.

Is Everett Ross related to Thunderbolt Ross?

>>82420278

> hate/love relationship with vision

Avengers disassembled when?

>>82420677
They are twin cousins.

>>82420677
Nope, just a coincidence

>>82420515
There's difference between the two.

>>82420516
>Or else you end up with complete trash shaky cam, i-dont-know-whats-going-on action sequences like the bayformers movies

But that's exactly what the Russos did

>>82420533
No they don't, they watch it to see their favorite superheroes/heroines

>>82420571
>I'll agree that the Russos don't have the best cinematography/CGI in this movie,
>The Russos might be the worst at it from the phase 3 lineup,

Exactly, I don't know why people keep praising them as if they're the greatest gift on Earth.

It will come crashing down ones people see them as the hacks they are.

>but they are better than Whedon for sure.
You can't say that

But I agree that Gunn would be a better choice for the next Avengers movies

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>>82420635
>she knew Tony would do something drastic
>knew Banner would Hulk out
notice how these were deliberate attacks on the Avengers. Any assault on innocent civilians would be completely against her morals. Tony could've done anything for all she cared as long as it fucked the team. The Hulk was more likely to either A) take him out or B) turn him against them. There's no way she would've known he would've turned and went straight for the city, and if you honestly think she would've done that with the knowledge he would or even intending for him to do so, you don't fucking get Wanda.

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HO HO HO FAGGOTS

>>82420677
Was hoping Sharon and Peggy were completely unrelated in this universe, with the two unrelated Rosses as another example to refute conservation of name detail.

>>82420576

That's what bothered me. If Wanda doesn't redirect the blast upwards, a shit ton of people die on the ground. They needed to do something similar to Civil War with amateurs accidentally getting many people killed.

Btw, can't believe we lost Crossbones already.

>>82420797
Ant-Man more like Ant-Moe

>>82420786

Are you just going out of your way to be a contrarian hipster?

>>82420787
>There's no way she would've known he would've turned and went straight for the city
There's no way she could have known that the well known rage monster known for smashing cities around might not completely focus on Tony?

>you don't fucking get Wanda
The writers musn't have either. Either that or she's retarded

>>82420809
I wanted either something that was clearly a fuck-up, like an actual indication that powered people need to be monitored or a counter-argument for Wanda. I can't accept how everyone would look at what Wanda did and go "she's clearly a fuck-up, lock her up, she's a menace".
And yeah, Based Grillo is out now unless we reality gem. Would've liked to see him in Thunderbolts.

>>82420787
I bet she wouldn't have fucked around with the Hulk if they were on Sokovia.
you're waifu a shit

>>82420579
You end up feeling really sympathetic for Stark because you can tell he wants things to be okay so badly. He's standing there fucking whispering under his breath before the air port fight 'come on Cap, come on' pleading with Steve to back down, while Cap is uncompromising and composed as ever. He seemed so tired and pitiful, old of a sudden.

I think a lot of anons went to the movie anticipating to laugh at Iron Manlet's misfortune, but left it feeling the complete opposite.

>>82419010
so fucking true

>>82420579
The CW aspect was played perfectly.

Movie made Stark sympathetic and showed the unlikable bit in Cap's perfect image.

serously, nobody won, they both lost shit and both were in areas gray enough for us to see how their relationship was damaged.

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By this point I'm just letting myself be baited and I don't fucking care.

>>82420894
>implying the Hulk actively attempt to destroy cities
>her whole fucking purpose was to turn them against each other
>there's clearly a massive fight going on in the opposite direction from the city and, angry or not, Banner/Hulk would know they would be in there
>the Hulk just decides to go to the city because whatever
But sure. That was the goal, make them look bad. Her fucking of the rest of them was to take them out the game or shift their actions but with the Hulk it was "let's make them look bad"
I'm not even going to bother after this I've triggered myself out. You've got all of my (You)s for now, let me be.

>>82420910
Sokovia doesn't have a massive beach filled with empty ships inhabited only by criminals does it

>>82420786
>>>I'll agree that the Russos don't have the best cinematography/CGI in this movie,
>>The Russos might be the worst at it from the phase 3 lineup,
>
>Exactly, I don't know why people keep praising them as if they're the greatest gift on Earth.
>
>It will come crashing down ones people see them as the hacks they are.
>
>>but they are better than Whedon for sure.
>You can't say that
>
>But I agree that Gunn would be a better choice for the next Avengers movies

Don't misquote me, you moron.

I said that the Russos are the worst at cinematography, but they aren't bad at all. Definitely better than Joss "slow pan" Whedon. Coogler is amazing at it, Waititi is amazing at it, Gunn is amazing at it. Watts and Reed are good and I don't know how Derrickson will be, but it looks great so far.

Gunn wouldn't know how to handle 12-20 main characters. There's a lot more to this than just looking good. Avengers is the worst looking besides maybe Thor 1 and it's in the top tiers of their movies.

Stop being a contrarian faggot and pretend that's all there is to it, Zack.

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>>82417063

I liked this movie yet I feel like I watched nothing happening for two hours.

Today the MCU is 8 years old.

Jesus Christ where did the time go? I remember watching Iron Man in the cinema.

>>82421326
You should open your eyes when watching something.
Visuals are important for processing events the occur.

>>82420894
Her powers are tied to her emotions and they feed into each other. Her arc is about understanding her powers and her emotions because she needs to do both in order to gain control.

She also needs purpose and something that is her own, which she does not have and has not had since her parents died.

Training and living in another dimension with Strange (and Agatha and Clea maybe) would be ideal, really.

>>82420809
He became a
Hot Cross Bone

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>>82421453

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>>82421428
I want to hug and comfort her so much. ;___;

>>82420579
>>82420974

If there was any notion of RDJ phoning it in over the last few MCU movies, it was completely squashed by Civil War.

It reminds you that RDJ is more than just "le quipster man". This guy is a legitimate actor with some serious fucking chops and he really shows them off in his portrayal of Tony Stark here.

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>>82421541
>we failed to protect her smile
why go on

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>>82421402

we know they are gonna get together anyway, Cap tried to help Bucky escape yet Bucky is kinda imprisoned anyway because he realizes he is actually dangerous, Cap talks about responsability for their own actions yet he doesn't think they should be in prison eventhough they destroyed a whole airport in an internal dispute between the avengers, he even helps those escape he involved anyway eventhough they had nothing to do with it and had their own lifes and family. In the fight in the middle they weren't that serious and Wanda can literally control many people at the same time like she did to evacuate Secovia, Vision was mostly flying around doing nothing, Cap talks about facing consecuences for his own actions yet they never did in any moment, they just keeped going, which was even mentioned by Zemo when he talked about his families death. It feels like I watched a fanservice episode of any series, an enjoyable one, a filler nevertheless.

>>82421585
All the hugs she could want

>>82421735
>her family is dead
>her new family is broken
>she's been treated like an animal an a monster due to things she can't control

Zemo might be back in Black Panther to collude with Klaue, and we might see Ross and the Government Avengers attack Wakanda.

I think Thor and Hulk fight Thanos as the true final boss in Ragnarok.

Also, I guess you could say...
Wanda is Feared Before All Others.
To many humans she is The Other

>>82421890
I saw this a few weeks ago.
It was so weird seeing him talk so much after TWS.

Best for me in no particular order would be:
>Civil War
>Guardians of the Galaxy
>Thor 2
>Avengers
>Ant-Man
>Iron Man

All the rest were meh.

>>82421968
>>Thor 2
Nigger, what?

I'm honestly more surprised than anything.

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Seems like they've always planned to follow this, but the newspaper shows the younger version of Howard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E486XjhYHh8

>>82417778
why is cat bucky a thing

>>82422013
Thor 2 was great. The only downside was the final villain fight but MCU in general has disappointing final villains anyway so meh.

Besides that, the whole movie was enjoyable. Thor was showing genuine character growth and personality and you could tell his experiences from previous movies had an effect on him. Loki's performance was outstanding as was his dialogue with Thor. Thor's mother's death was done well too.

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>>82421968
>Thor 2
Please explain.

>>82422043
sometimes newspapers use young pictures

>>82422079
I actually liked the final battle and loved the visuals. I'll defend it as the best looking MCU movie alongside GotG.

That, the hammer/coathanger, the funeral scene and Kurse was pretty cool.

But how could you stand the horrible Jane chemistry and the interns? They are seriously grating even on the first watch.

>>82422079
I enjoyed the Thor/Loki/Asgard stuff too, but I fucking hated all the Earth stuff. There was entirely too much earth shit for me to like the movie overall.

>>82421840
Scary thought...
> Shown to be powerful enough to manipulate an infinity stone.

> If, let's just theorize here for fun here, a certain naughty demon being comes into contact with the time gem in Doctor Strange, that alone could be enough to automatically give Wanda some power over that, too.

>>82422133
>>82422141
I honestly don't even remember the Jane/earth stuff. Probably because it wasn't in the movie very much.
And by the way you guys are being very hypocritical talking shit about the Jane group stuff while /co/ in general loves the Ant-Man wombats which I found ten times more annoying than Jane's gang.

>>82422195
It's a matter of engagement/landing jokes. I have nothing against jokes, but Darcy's gang really clashed with the overall tone they managed to actually achieve otherwise.

The wombats were another comedy thing in a comedic movie, so it was pretty great.

I don't think the movie is truly bad or anything, but it's definitely within the bottom of the MCU for me. I mean, more power to you, but realize that nobody here will agree with you.

>>82417063
I went into it fully supporting Cap and hoping the manlet got what was coming to him.

By the end I was on Iron Man's side. He did literally nothing wrong. Fuck Bucky, he should have just died in Winter Soldier and nothing bad would have happened. Also Cap fucked up by not telling Tony the truth.

What a fucking great movie though. The story was so well written it actually made me do a complete 180 on who I supported. Besides the shitty cgi, it's definitely the best marvel movie since Iron Man 1. It might be even better.

>>82422265
>realize that nobody here will agree with you
Oh I'm well aware of that, I mean you're talking to a guy who didn't enjoy Winter Soldier.
Then again it's not like I came to this thread to convince anyone.

>>82421917
His voice and speaking skills aren't the greatest but not worth silencing him over. That movie showed he can joke around just fine.

>>82422265
Thor 2 is great while its in Asgard. The film only goes to shit when it lands on Earth. Loki's arc is the best part of the film.

If the film had stayed away from Earth and had more focus on Sif it would have been great all through.

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>>82422054
Buncha things. Sebastian Stan has a face kinda like a Persian cat's, plus the movie had scenes like Pierce offering him milk and him clawing the road. Apparently Stan himself is really fond of cats but apparently the Japs were drawing this stuff way before those interviews.

>>82421567
RDJ's acting talents have been severely underused in the IM sequels. He is really good at heavily emotional scenes, but those are far and few between in most of the MCU.

>>82422079
I enjoyed Loki, Frigga, and Heimdall, but Thor himself was dull, and so was all the human characters. Surprisingly I actually didn't mind Darcy herself that much.

>>82422043
Man that scene is Metal Gear as fuck.

>>82422556
All of TWS is MGS.

>>82422556
That movie is Metal Gear as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ7y3pEjNUI

>>82422195
It's more that the Jane stuff just isn't very well done. I don't have any problem with it in principle.
Whereas the Ant-Man jokes had better delivery, tone, and setup.

>>82422532
>Thor himself was dull
I didn't see it that way at all. He was struggling with the fact that he would have to settle down to be a proper ruler while also struggling with his psychotic brother. He wasn't all party mode or "MUH JANE" mode which I thought was a good addition to his character growth.

>>82421400
I remember my casual friends being surprised Iron Man wasn't a sentient robot.

>>82417063
I thought that it was pretty underwhelming and predictable that Widow would change sides, I also found it annoying considering she got away with it.

>>82422605
>Whereas the Ant-Man jokes had better delivery, tone, and setup
The Ant-Man jokes in general? Yes, I wholeheartedly agree.
The wombats? Absolutely not.

I actually rewatched Ant-Man last night and the same thing happened during the first time I watched it in the cinema: The only Wombat jokes I laughed at were Luiz first picking up Scott from prison and also when he was telling the long story to Scott for the first time and Scott said he was telling the wrong details.

>>82422595

>It's on a boat
>METAL GEAR

Nerds are too much

>>82421585

She's with Cap and Daddyhawk and the ANT who brings her smiles.

She'll be just fine. She is however the only white woman in an African country though.

>>82422615
Perhaps, but whether it was the fault of Hemsworth or the writing, I'm completely unable to recall almost anything about Thor's arc in that film. Whereas TWS established Cap's sense of not belonging and his desire to stick to his principles, and for all Iron Man 2's faults i could still remember Tony's period of self-destructiveness and refusal to tell his friends about it.

>>82420809
>Btw, can't believe we lost Crossbones already.

Seemed like a waste. I feel like they had bigger plans for him til it became about Civil War and thus they offed him to not leave him just hanging.

I mean hell Grillo only shows his face for 15 seconds.

>>82422595
After realised that now i'm even more hyped for Infinity War

>>82422104
If you inspect the picture closer you can see that it's young Howard dead in the driver's seat.

>>82422890
>TWS established Cap's sense of not belonging and his desire to stick to his principles
Yes for the first 20m of the movie. Then later on it was all forgotten with the "It was HYDRA all along" with a typical good guys V bad guys.

>>82422944
Yeah it's kind of a weird continuity mistake, considering we've known since IM1 that Tony's parents died when he was a young adult, meaning Howard would be old.

Was anyone else reminded of Shinn Asuka a little with that Zemo phone thing?

>>82422944
I don't know if it's young so much as that they didn't use a standin who resembles Slattery enough.

It's a good job there was a cctv camera right where the car crashed

>>82423064
Delete this.

>>82422997
yeah, even the date on the paper (1994) calls for an older Howard

>>82422191
Will it be the time gem the one that appears in Dr. Strange?

>>82423102
wasn't it 1991 in the movie? minor oversights are to be expected though

>>82423064
Did the crash happen in the US? Because I was a bit weirded out by how many CCTV cameras there were in the US when I visited the country.

>>82423011

I didn't mention it because nobody here seems like they'd be familar with GSD but yes.

He also has an irrational hate on for guys that saved the Planet because his family was one of the few they couldn't save, even though they're insignificant compared to the enitre human race.

>>82423064
That bothered me a bit too. It was a great scene and all, and Tony watching it was stellar stuff too, but there is absolutely NO explanation for why there was a camera in the middle of the woods in that exact spot.

Was Bucky told to carry out the assassination in front of it specifically? Was the camera planted there by HYDRA? If so, did they see into the future and know the footage was going to be good for fucking up Tony Stark?

>>82423237
His family died because of the Sokovia incident, which the Avengers are to blame for.

>>82423171
Wasn't it 1991 in the movie?
Yeah. They make that very clear.

>>82423237
The problem is that Ultron existed because Tony created him.

>>82423300
>>82423171
>>82423102

The newspaper reads 'December 17, 1991', not 1994

>>82423284

Only Tony Stark is really to blame (he created Ultron) and even then Ultron kind of woke up on his own and rampaged out. Tony and Bruce were just playing around with the stone.

The Avengers meanwhile stopped Ultron from killing everyone.

Maybe he should hate Tony and maybe Banner but that's it.

He's just lumping everyone in because he's pissed his family did. Cap had nothing to do with Ultron.

>>82421968
No Winter Soldier?

You think Tony's ever gonna get to redeem himself? However slightly? Everything he's done up to now has been in the name of redemption, but he just can't get it.

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>>82418665
Ironically Spider-man is pretty much the only one who didn't suffer.

>>82423382
He'll sacrifice himself in IW.

>Team Tony

Sounds like a group of people who vehemently maintain that Frosties are better than Coco Pops.

>>82423382
Redemption found in a bottle.

>>82423197

Yes, but we don't have CCTV in the middle of the freaking woods. And especially not in 1991. It was just plot convienience.

>>82417063
Not even in top 3 but it's certain in top 5.

>>82423393
His time will come.

>>82423393
Uncle Ben's already dead, right? Tell me I don't have to watch that a third time.

>>82423487
Yes, Feige already said it won't be an origin movie.

>>82423393
Tony will make Aunt Tomei his fuck buddy to help cope with his pain by taking solace in sex.

>>82423374
Nope. Didn't like it. I'd go into a whole thing about it why but that usually makes /co/ explode so I won't.

>>82423501
He's already spiderman before he dies though, isn't he? That's why he feels bad for not stopping the guy, because he actually could have.

>>82421585
Bitch deserves it.

>>82423237
The Russos are apparently big fans of anime according to some fan who met them on set. Wonder which ones? Given a lot of elements in TWS it seems like they're more well-versed than the stock Akira/GitS/Ninja Scroll/Ghibli answer.

>>82423591
Delete This

>>82423393
Just you fucking wait

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>>82423591
Delete this.

>>82423135
It might be. Feige sort of implied it, I think.

>>82423487
Remember when Peter was talking about how when you have power and don't do anything bad things can happen?

Man that was so good.

>>82423393

Out of everybody in the airport fight he got his shit kicked in the most. Everyone got a turn to beat on him.

>>82423707
oooooh, I didn't make that connection

>>82423722
Yes, but he was so happy about it. He was having a blast, not suffering.

>>82423382
I have a feeling that he's going to redeem himself in Infinity War part 1 or 2 and become Secretary of Defense, or even Director of S.H.I.E.L.D., giving him the change to stick it to Ross like he's always wanted.

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>>82423591

>>82423763
Oh man, I hope Iron Man 4 is an loose but brutal adaptation of Five Nightmares.

>>82423393
The accords fuck him big time

>>82423722
Yeah, but he was Team Iron Man's MVP
>Webbed Bucky and Falcon almost effortlessly
>Took down giANTS
>Gave Cap a pretty hard time, only lost because he's pretty lightweight
all that while quipping his ass off

>>82423591

THIS she left it was her choice she got what she deserved

>>82423725
Yeah it was subtle which was nice.

>>82423393
The higher he starts, the furthest he'll fall.

>>82423856
Well, he operated outside the law before, and I imagine Stark would do what he can to protect him. It doesn't look like he's on the government's radar, and I'm fairly certain that Stark kept his involvement in the battle hush-hush.

>>82417063
In objective order from best to worst.
The Winter Soldier.
Civil War.
Guarfians of the Galaxy.
Ant-Man.
The Avengers.
Iron Man.
The First Avenger.
The Incredible Hulk.
Iron Man 3.
Age of Ultron.
Both Thor Movies.
Iron Man 2.

>>82423892
It wasn't her choice, that's the problem, they were treating her like a criminal even before the whole thing.

>>82423940
>The Avengers

I'll say it - in retrospect that movie is terrible.

Feels like a mad for TV movie.

>>82422731
I thought it was about fucking time Black Widow betrayed somebody. It's been like ten movies, that's her primary defining characteristic in the comics.

>>82423857
Was there a thread about the second one?

>>82423940
Great:
GotG
Cap3
TWS
IM1
AM
Cap1

Good:
Avengers
Avengers 2
Iron Man 3

Okay, I guess:
Iron Man 2
Thor 1
Thor 2
Hulk

In no particular order. In fairness, I was never bored in any movie the first time I watched it. Some hold better to repeat viewings, some don't. Avengers 1 had mad hype and hit the right marks at the right time, but it looks like shit. It's still a good time.

>>82423940
What's so bad about Iron Man 2? I thought it was a totally fine movie. I'd say it's close to as good as Iron Man 1, at least.

>>82423861
Bucky didn't get any good hits on him. That fight was all on Falcon. Speaking of which what was that big blue frisbee thing Spidey threw at Bucky? A miscolored Redwing?

Dr Strange Hype?

https://twitter.com/WHIHOfficial/status/727256906952138753

Is it weird that nobody had any problem with Tony recruiting a small boy to help him fight Team Cap? When he showed up during the fight I was expecting Steve to have a go at Tony for being so irresponsible and bringing a minor to a warzone.

>>82424159
It was a piece of debris or something that Bucky threw at him, and then Peter threw it back.

>>82423977
Just because she joined the Avengers and started doing good, doesn't mean she wasn't a dangerous criminal in AOU.

>>82424172
Until they put out a better trailer, no.

>>82424183
No one was fighting to kill and Tony just wanted him to keep his distance and shoot webs everywhere.

>>82417063
Did cap had a sex scene?

>>82424142
I despise IM2 so fucking much, it's so boring and feels so out of place in every way.
Whiplash was done so badly I think they had to kill him off in the vomics too or something.
The only good thing about it is that 10 minute scene with Tony and Rhodey fighting the Drones.
And that's it.
Even Hammer was butchered in terms of character, I feel.

>>82424253
No, he's still pure.

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>>82424142
Yeah, I can't find anything in it that's so offensively bad one would rate it the lowest of all. Compared to IM1 it's lackluster and the villain is underused and taken down way too easily, but it had plenty of good scenes and RDJ wasn't halfassing his performance like in AOU.

I do remember hating Pepper in it.

>>82424309
I still want a proper Bleeding Edge Armor.
But I doubt we're at a point where even the best CGI would make that look good.

>>82420787
Your waifu did bad shit and her choices are all on her and nobody else. Get over it. She was a piece of shit at the start of AOU and any resulting deaths are on her, among others.

>>82424142
A lot of unlikeable characters (Rhodey being the most justified out of them but all three of the main trio acting like dickbags), uninteresting villains, SHIELD subplot tacked on superfluously, half the jokes not really landing, the Howard subplot (though the Zola scene in TWS redeemed it after the fact).

>>82421567
I think a lot of people forgot how talented RDJ actually is because he's seemed to just gravitate towards fun roles that don't require as much work. You remember when he takes it seriously, though. He's one of the most talented actors on the scene today, even if it's been a while since I've seen the evidence.

>>82423892
She was fucked either way; she quietly retires and does nothing and still gets shat on. The house arrest thing was just obviously ramping up to the innevitable. She and Bucky were the two characters who had little to no choices, or very shitty ones.

Everyone else had a heck of a lot more choice in there respective paths.

How come Peter didn't stick to the ground when he was playing tug-o-war with Cap? If he's properly stuck to the ground, no one would be able to get him off without breaking the ground in the process.

>>82424309
it would be sensible character progression

and with spiderman in the mix you could explain the whole symbiote armor thing

What even happens to Widow in the end?
Was she arrested?

>>82423977
>they were treating her like a criminal
Treating her like a criminal would have been giving her the jail time her crimes during AOU more than merited. She was getting off easy getting to eat pizza with her robohusbando

>>82423977
Maybe because people became aware of her because she was doing bad things before she helped the Avengers? And because she was effectively a highly dangerous criminal until she decided to stop being an idiot? Why should they just trust her?

>>82424183
I think they were all thinking they weren't fighting to kill so what serious danger was he in? And Peter is stronger than nearly all of them anyways.

>>82424445
I think Marvel has made MCU Tony one of the most complicated comic characters and movie characters I've seen in a while. It's really amazing to go back to IM1 and see the character progress through the years.

>>82424519
Her, Clint, Scott, and Sam are all arrested and put in the Raft. Cap shows up at the end to bust them out.

>>82424498
> No one would be able to get him off.

>>82424498
He probably hasn't got a grasp of his powers yet. Either he hasn't figured out how to consciously do the "sticky feet" thing if he's not on a wall or ceiling or he just didn't think to do it because he hasn't developed that veteran instinct.

>>82424498
Tony made the soles slightly too tall and Cap was pulling at an upwards angle.

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>>82424309
As long as the gay ass tiara is there I'm game. .

>>82424481
She deserved worse after AOU. They had reason to stick her ass in prison forever and would be entirely justified in doing so. Don't even try to compare her to Bucky who had literally no control over his actions.

Why are Witch waifufags the worst?

>>82424635
>soles too tall
I guess old habits, huh.

>>82424537
> Vision hospitalized Rhodey.

How do they know that wasn't Ultron taking over him?

>>82424686
He wasn't making a joke while he did it

>>82424590
Wish they didn't. Seems like a copout on the whole "consequences" angle.

>>82424481
She reaped what she sowed. And even then not really because it wasn't permanent imprisonment. She hardly got unfair treatment.

Tony was right all along. Fuck Bucky and Cap.

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>>82424642
The red-and-yellow color scheme is too marketable so they probably won't change that.

>>82424741
I'm still holding out for the "Ant Man and the Wasp" film to show the jailbreak.

I wish we saw Hank Pym's take on the Sokovia Accords and Scott joining Cap's side.

>>82424642
>Tony looks at Peter and asks him for advice on how he should go about making a new and cool armor.
>He says he wants something 'superior', maybe looking into symbiotic relationships and integrating it into the armor somehow.
>Peter immediately cuts him off, looks at Tony and tells him, "Mr. Stark, with all due respect, you DO NOT wanna mess with symbiotes. Trust me, I've have bad experiences before with them".
>Tony asks him to explain further, to which Peter looks at the camera and says softly "You all know exactly what happened.", then looks back at Tony and just tells him "Please, trust me on this one".
At least, that's how I'd like it to go.

>>82424647
>>82424767
Tony is that you.

>>82424880
Peter isn't Deadpool.

Does anybody else think Vision shot Rhodey on purpose for what he did to Wanda? Vision made it look like an accident by making it look like he wanted to hit Falcon, but got WM instead.

>>82424880
Jesus Christ

Stick to your day job

>>82424794
I'm torn. The MCU doesn't really do proper flashbacks to events of previous movies like that, but it'd be a good way to showcase Hope direct into action. Have her bust Scott out because he's the one who's technology can help her save Janet and so on. But please for the love of god bury that shitty Scott/Hope romantic subplot forever.

>>82424647
To be fair, after Ultron Tony could have easily been thrown in prison as well

>>82424972
No. The shot was fired at Falson, but he dodged. Plus, Rhodes should have known better than to fly directly in the line of fire

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>Is 100% responsible for all the damage and death throughout Avengers 2.
>CA:CW "We need to werk wib the gubment to be responsible"

Such character development.
This movie was mediocre...they try to push a serious narrative about responsibility and atonement and then ignore it to make more quips and banter.

>Cap is about to compromise
>refuses to compromise because mass murderer bitch isn't being treated nice enough for his liking
>CIVIL WAR
>many smiles are lost
>Cap didn't even fuck her or nuthin

Fucking Scarlet Witch ruins everything again. Right after she ensured the creation of Ultron, helped him with his plans, and made Hulk go berserk in a busy city street resulting in dozens of deaths.

>>82424880
Stop.

>>82425071
They'll playfully banter ala Hart to Hart, but seeking how they're doing another breaking and entering job by bailing out Cap's team, it's gonna be awesome as fuck. And they better have Pym do more stuff in the 2nd film.

>>82425106
>after Ultron Tony could have easily been thrown in prison as well
Which is what Ross informs Tony to make him shut up once he begins questioning the accords in CW.

>>82424880
>to which Peter looks at the camera and says softly "You all know exactly what happened.", then looks back at Tony and just tells him "Please, trust me on this one".
Congrats, you managed to script the single cringiest ideas for a MCU scene i've ever seen. And thats high praise considering some of the shit /co/ come sup with

>>82425114

>100% responsible
>Ultron actually has a will of his own
>Bruce co-created Ultron
>Wanda and Pietro helped him get his doomsday machine
>Ultron turned evil by seemingly sapient magic stone

>>82425114
>100%
>Not 30~35% because of Wanda's mind magic influence, and letting him take the scepter
>Plus Bruce

I DIDN'T KILL YOUR FATHER

>>82425114
Yeah all of the quips and lighthearted banter in the final fight pissed me off so much too!

What are you on anon? The jokes stopped once the tone of the whole movie shifted.

>>82425182
And how was Ross going to handle Banner and Thor? In fact, I'd LOVE to see Ross try to threaten Bruce after his adventures with Thor in Ragnorak. Thor would be confused as to why his bros are fighting each other.

>>82424933
>>82425028
>>82425139
>>82425195
Let's see you try and come up with something better, then, you bunch of fucking assholes.

>>82425128
>mass murdering
Stop.

>>82425270
BUT I DID SHOOT THE DEPUTY

>>82420905
>I can't accept how everyone would look at what Wanda did and go "she's clearly a fuck-up, lock her up, she's a menace".
That's not what happened though. They said that a vigilante force was playing world police and trampling all over the sovereignty for an african nation and due to their intervention there were major civilian casualties. And that this group needed to be put under some form of accountability and control.

People are scared of Wanda sure but she was never to focus of a specific witch hunt during the film.

>>82425224
>>82425201

If Tony puts his ego in check and doesn't pressure Bruce into playing with the staff.

>Ultron doesn't get out and decide to burn the whole place down.
>Thor takes the staff to Asgard, ensuring Hydra cannot continue their doomsday weapon.

>>82425320
Call all the Avengers on either of them.

They'd likely lose, but that's what he'd do.

>>82424767
>She reaped what she sowed. And even then not really because it wasn't permanent imprisonment. She hardly got unfair treatment.
Tony outright said that she is only treated like shit because "she wasn't American".

Tony is harming her rights because he is using the very common excuse that "human rights only matter for American citizens".

>>82425380
>People are scared of Wanda sure but she was never to focus of a specific witch hunt during the film.
That's also what Tony was preventing by keeping her away from the public.

>>82425435
>That's also what Tony was preventing by keeping her away from the public.
For how long does he intend to do this? Until she dies of old age?

>Captain "America"
>spends most of second movie fighting bad guy Americans
>not even a real captain now
>rebels against American government to protect foreign terrorist
>fights American law enforcement
>beats up capitalist, genius, all-American badass and philanthropist
>philanthropist actually does express patriotism and kills Russian supervillains and Afghan terrorists
>meanwhile Cap is so much of a beta that he won't even say "yes, I want to kill Nazis" when directly asked
>never says or does anything remotely patriotic in any movie

Congratulations America, you turned your iconic hero into a cuck for foreign markets.

>>82425395
If Bruce isn't a flimsy pushover who goes along with Stark just because he says so

>Ultron doesn't get created

>>82425473
>Congratulations America, you turned your iconic hero into a cuck for foreign markets.
Tony Stark is the CURRENT symbol of America. Both good and bad.

>>82425473
He's spent two movies fighting HYDRA.
Captain America has never been about being patriotic, but about being the personification of that idea of
>America = Freedom

>>82424783

Not really. Ross showed himself to be massively incompetent and Zemo walked all over him. Then Ross utterly ignored the real threat when Tony had proof and threatened to toss Tony in jail for failing a mission.

And this is the guy Tony thought they should defer to.

>>82425473
Because he's Captain America, as in, what people claim American values are, not Captain America's Cocksucker.

When Tony and Rhodes go in for the Double Mega Punch against Giant Man, doesn't Rhodes pull his right arm back then punch with his left? Anyone catch that?

>>82425473
Captain America, fights a guy on a red "coat". Makes sense, man.

>>82425564
The MCU governments are incompetent as fuck.

- Battle of NYC: World Security Council wants to nuke it.
- HYDRA infiltrated SHIELD for decades
- VP of USA worked for AIM

>>82425530
>>82425547
>Captain America = What the US wants the world to see it as.

>Tony Stark = What the US really is.

>>82425630
3 and 1 could easily be explained by 2, though.

>>82424892
>>82425106

Yes. Tony deserves it too. I don't see how that's an argument.

>>82425633

>genius philanthropist who invents all the best technology and kicks the ass of evil before banging all the hot women

That sounds like America alright.

>>82425465
Until the bodies were buried and the accords were signed at least. Not that she even gave him that much time

>>82425427
>Treated like shit
>Little temporary jail with a buddy after she was partially responsible for everything in AOU.

Right.

>>82425756
She didn't get a trial

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>>82420579
I'd be more on board with Starks ideas if they made more sense. Of the disasters shown for reasons for the Sokovia accords, only 2 were caused by avengers. Ultron, which is basically all on Stark and Lagos, in which like 20 people died because of one fuck up by Scarlet witch.

Even then, Sokovia was the Avengers reacting to the situation Ultron made. If they didn't more people would have died. And I get the idea is that they would have oversight so when they do decide to go in guns blazing someone has to answer for it, but to be fair to Cap, he trusted one governmental organisation before and it turned out half of them were Hydra the entire fucking time.

Hydra even still exist, though we don't know that they know that seeing as AoS will forever be it's own little thing.

Why the fuck would Cap sign an agreement to be told what to do by a governmental organisation when they have 1, their own agenda, 2, by virtue of their very nature are inherently corrupt to some degree or another and 3, possibly, probably even, full to the brim with Hydra?

>>82425778
She's not being permanently imprisoned. Just being held. Why would a full trial be needed?

>>82425630

>aliens are invading
>basic foot soldiers carry guns barely a step up from bolt action rifles
>maybe weaker, since they can't punch through a table or captain america's gut
>have no sense of tactics, don't wear armor, and can be killed by pistol bullets or knives
>aircraft equipped with only grenade launcher things and move slower than WW2 prop planes
>aircraft explode into bits of metal when shot by grenades on a stick, or micro-missiles, or miniguns
>can literally be sniped while moving by a guy with a bow
>guy with a bow, girl with pistols, guy on steroids, and guy wearing a light fighter jet can slaughter literally hundreds of them
>god leader can be defeated by being slammed into a concrete floor
>there's only about a thousand at most

HOLY FUCK, THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR 20 WHOLE MINUTES, WE NEED NUKES, LIKE RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

>>82425819
When would they let her go then?
Her powers are not going to suddenly disappear.

>>82425819
They never gave any indications they planned to let her go. When they asked for a lawyer the guy laughed

>>82425902
They're holding her until they settle things down with the Accords, I thought. It wasn't supposed to be a jail sentence. They just decided not to let someone so dangerous and powerful who was formerly a criminal walk around while they're figuring shit out.

>>82425726
He is 100% responsible for all of his enemies

>>82425901

To be fair, Powers Boothe was Hydra, as AoS explained. He was pushing for it because he wanted all those high profile Hydra targets taken out.

>>82425958
But she didn't do it on purpose.
There was no reason to keep her prisoner in there, just tell her
>Hey Wanda, since you don't know how to control your powers much, you won't go on missions with the Avengers until everyone is certain that you won't fuck it up again.

Holding her prisoner in a building makes no sense because you are going to make her angry and with her powers you know that if she wants, she'll escape on her own.

>>82426017
The public was scared of her. If she had gone out and been lynched by random people on the street, what might have happened? She is unpredictable with her powers, even though she wants to do good.

>>82426017
Didn't do what on purpose? Everything she did in AOU was on purpose. That alone would be enough to hold her.

Maybe they figured she wouldn't try to escape even if she could? It'd just make things worse. They had to have known they couldn't hold her if she wanted out.