Is Transformers dead /co/?

Uh, no?

>>82388948
Anon you're completely out of the loop.

Original is undoubtedly the best, at this point its just a milked out franchise

Hell no.

Prime kicked ass, and RID is a visual treat with fun writing.

Plus a baller theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4IAhNtML_k

>>82390750
Also Rescue Bots will be the longest running TF series. It's pretty mature and entertaining for a kids show.

>>82389794
I'd still like BW with updated graphics
But cars make better robot toys

I gave up on RiD, I don't like anything about it besides Strong-Arm

>>82388948
No, there is a billion dollar movie franchise, two current cartoons, and a series of critically acclaimed comics with an autisticly and psychoticly devoted fanbase. And also some toys.

>>82388948
No? It's doing pretty well for a toy property in 2016.

GI Joe is dead.

>>82388948
why do I miss prime so much?

Why is Robots in Disguise so shit?

>>82393405
It's offensive. Beating up criminals is wrong. They have rights.

>>82388948
No.

They're robots so they were never truly alive to begin with.

>>82393405
The art style is pretty bad (cel-shaded minus style? I dunno), the designs are retarded, the characters are dull, the stakes are low, and the source of conflict is literally cops and robbers

Of course not.

TF5 is next year, the show will last until at least spring 2017, and the toys and comics are still on a steady stream.

>>82395043
Wait, they're still making the live-action movies?

>>82395114

Of course they are. They're already plotting scripts for up to TF7.

And thats not even counting a potential all-animation prequel set on Cybertron.

>>82395143
Huh, I was thinking they gave up since the last one bombed.

>>82395341

>highest grossing movie of the year
>made over a billion
>highest grossing movie in Chinese film history

You have odd standards for what constitutes a "bomb".

>>82395488
After looking it up you're right, but I remember that it didn't make that much. I don't know what I'm thinking of but I could of sworn it did bad.

Oh well.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/05/hasbro-plans-four-more-transformers-movies-plus-tv-and-digital
“They plotted out the next 10 years of Transformers. Similarly, we are doing the same in television and in digital. So stay tuned, Transformers 5 is on its way, and 6 and 7 and 8.”

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>>82388948
It died when TFA did.

>>82395696
pretty much this

When is that dang Machinima series coming out?

>>82395696

TFA was not very good.

>>82395827

July or August, last I checked.

>>82395846
>TFA was not very good.
You're not very good.

But thank you for the information.

>>82395654
How much longer will I have to endure those shity movies, and the shitty toys that come with them?
I just want it to end already, the movies are always shit, and the movie toylines haven't been really good snce ROTF/HFTD.

I just want the movies to fuck off already

>>82395898
You don't /have/ to watch them Anon. No one is going to force you Clockwork Orange style.

>>82393189
>critically acclaimed comics
Huh, I thought all the IDW comics were known for is making the decepticons the good guys, having gay characters and terrible OCs

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>people who say Strongarm is the ONLY good thing to come out of RID

It's a combination of waifufaggotry and furfag meme that keeps him from getting his due, isn't it?

I bet Thunderhoof and Sabrehorn could probably leave an impression too if they had actually been given some time

>>82395939
but windblade a qt

I know there suppose to be making a new show for the mature auidence

>>82395898
Ever since DOTM the movie toylines only last about half a year anyway. And those 6 months basically fund the other 3 years of G1 homages in between. It's that, or we go back to the old days of only 30 new molds a year.

>>82395114
tf3 broke the trilogy rule, making more money than the second. and then went on to make a fourth that made even more. for some unfathomable reason people keep going to seen these movie, so they're going to keep making them

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>>82396027
Can't strike a pose for shit though.

>>82396095

>Ever since DOTM the movie toylines only last about half a year anyway

Then they shelfwarm for three times as long.

>>82396104

You disrespect the Sailor Senshi, Windblade!

>>82395696
>>82395725

Thirding this. Prime was boring, the comics are convoluted(though they have their audience.) RiD had potential but dropped the ball.

>>82396027
Windblade technically isn't an IDW OC

Hasbro made her based on what fans voted for, IDW just had to market her

Terrible OCs would include Rung, Tarn, Tyrest, Nautica, Drift before Hasbro adopted him wholeheartedly...I actually don't consider Rung or Nautica terrible, but I know a lot of folk do

>>82396155

>Rung and Tarn

OBJECTION!

Drift is okay in IDW, but Hasbro has yet to repeat the success anywhere else.

>>82389794
>Original is undoubtedly the best,

I can't imagine how anyone can say that without heavy nostalgia goggles. What reason would anyone have to say that G1 is "undoubtedly" the best?

>>82396102
How many film series get that far?
I think there's a few terminator movies, but they were years apart. Rocky has been mocked for getting many sequels, I think Die Hard had a fair few...
Horror movies can do it over and over for some reason

>>82396237

Fast and Furious has 7, with 8 in the next year or two. They say they wanna stop with 10.

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>>82396199
Tarn a shit, and the sooner the entire DJD die, the better

>MFW last issue got the ball rolling

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>>82396205
Only in G1 that can be described as "the best" the the movie.

>>82396237
Fast and Furious
X-men?

>>82396104
>no pose
>no special effects like glitter or lightning crackling after the change is complete
If there's ONE FUCKING THING they should've taken lessons from Japan, it's definitely at transformation sequences

>>82396299

>the sooner the entire DJD die, the better

I'm sorry you hate fun.

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I just want a new Strongarm toy. Make her Voyager scale with Generations Springer level of love.

>>82396199
Drift a shit but a slightly better shit than his first appearance in IDW.

>>82396299
Calm down Mcfeely.

>>82395935
Yeah, but I'll be "forced" to see terrible movie toys shelf warming like crazy everytime I go buy a generations figure.
I'm not a fan of the movie asthetics, but at least ROTF had a lot of good toys. AoE had Evasion Mode Optimus, and pretty much everything else looked offsensively terrible.

>>82396405
>Generations Springer level of love.
Who gets that type of love?
Springer was a miracle

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>>82396405
The toy we have isn't even all that bad, just very... meh. The Takara version is a bit better paintapp-wise but that's pretty much how it always goes.

I doubt we'll get any Generation-style toys of the RiD2016 crew in our lifetimes.

>>82396401
Fuck off, The Fallen already had dibs on the decepticon-symbol-as-face thing

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>>82396453
I have a soft spot for the Dinobot toys.

>>82396453

I dunno, I liked Super Sentai Dinorangers.

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>>82396481
I don't want meh though. I want 'damn, this is amazing.'

She's the first female bot I've really enjoyed for what little of RiD I've seen. Arcee in Prime was good too, but I want snu snu bot over the thin one.

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>>82396449
I can't calm down...I'm actually super fucking excited.

I've been wanting this to happen for a long time. I accept that Tarn might actually survive all this and stick around, but the other three...can't wait.

>>82396405
Oh, I'll give her some love~
I hope someone with skill can make that hentai version of her into a figure.

i dunno i think it's doing fine, toys finallly doing more obscure guys, new show with actualy fun characters instead of melodramatic shallowness, comics doing new stuff.

Certainly doing better than the last few witless pandering years.

>>82396481
>I doubt we'll get any Generation-style toys of the RiD2016 crew in our lifetimes.

Why not? They made a Generations Lugnut only a few years after Animated ended. And while they weren't Generations style, LOckdown and Bulkhead got new toys too

I can honestly see Prime/RID characters getting new toys in the next5-10 years

>>82396481
>>82396405
I wish she'd get a generations styled toy, I think the character looks cool (never watched rid), but her toy is very meh.
I can see her spreading out to modern G1 eventually, there's always that one character from new series that do, and I believe Strongarm will be the one.
At the very least, I can see her showing up in IDW like Knockout did, but that doesn't guarantee a toy.

>>82396543
>>82396540
Oh yeah, those were actually neat. Could never find them on stores though besides Grimlock, just the simplified ones for those who have it.

>>82396155
The people you know have shit taste.

>>82396237
most movies don't get more than 3 because there's a pattern that companies follow.

>movie 1 does reasonably well. drums up a lot of fan interest
>movie 2 makes the most
>movie 3 will make enough money to be justified in making one, pattern shows that movies made after that do not earn enough.

>>82396644
Lugnut and Lockdown were both completely new characters.

>>82396644
Hasbro flat out said theyre not doing detailed toys of RID so they can have SOMETHING to do in 10 years when they've gone thru g1 and BW, so yeah you're right on the money

>>82396762
um, yeah?

That's exactly the point?

Anon was saying that we would never see a new Generations-style Strongarm (completely new character for RID) in our lifetime

But there's precedence since Lugnut and Lockdown (completely new characters for Animated) got new toys within a few years of Animated ending.

>>82393269
arcee

>>82396453
Suck it up fucker. The movies have given us amazing budgets and a much bigger line than we've ever gotten. If you've enjoyed literally anything in the last 10 years, toy-wise, you have the movies to thank. I've been collecting for nearly two fucking decades and I can tell you its been a godsend for the franchise for revenue alone.

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>>82395939
>Huh, I thought all the IDW comics were known for is making the decepticons the good guys, having gay characters and terrible OCs


>>82395939
>I thought all the IDW comics were known for is making the decepticons the good guys, having gay characters and terrible OCs

IDW is known for making grey characters on every side, having gay characters (which, face it, kind of make sense when, before the colonies were discovered, Arcee was the only female and she was a psycho forced-op tranny) and a handful of OCs

In addition, MTMTE is specifally known for hot robots and terrible things happening all the time

>>82396953

Its also really funny. Which is nice.

>>82396953
>which, face it, kind of make sense
Transformers are all prison-gay?

>>82396837
Well, the uh..name has been used before?

>>82396885
Yes, but they've done their job and they can go now.
Or at least give us good movie toys back.

>>82388948
it died the moment bay put his hands on it

also this
>>82389794

prime is okay
rid is fun (sometimes)

>>82396953
>kind of make sense
Robot romance seems absurdly unnecessary.

>>82393269
Comfy as fuck.

>>82397024

It's just mostly jokes stolen from better sitcoms tho

>>82397091

Its okay every now and then.

And they deserve love as much as any other being.

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>>82397040
muh dik

>>82388948
Prime had a shit ton of potential, it's a shame that it never fully realized it. Season 1 was great, season 2 was disappointing as fuck, and season 3 was good but left a lot to be desired.

Still, easily the best incarnation of Megatron next to BW.

>>82396953
>gay robots make sense because tranny arcee
But that didn't make sense either, it was a
mistake.
The real reason for the gay robots is muh progressiveness

Shipping in general is shit and shouldn't exist in TF, gay or otherwise

>>82389794
>Original is undoubtedly the best, at this point its just a milked out franchise

You are so fucking wrong. The last few years have been, by far, the best years for Transformers fiction. Up until about 9 years ago there where only really two examples of TF fiction that where mostly considered legitimately good; the G1 comic's latter half, and Beast Wars. Other series where competitors, too, but on the whole the amount of decent stuff was lacking.Then we got Animated, Prime, MTMTE, WfC/FoC, and so on. The last few years have bought an abundance of interesting new concepts and ideas and stories. Your entire post just reeks of "the G1 movie looked cool so therefore it was the peak". We've gone so far beyond G1 its amazing.

>>82393405
Everything about it is half-assed. Prime may have been directionless, but you could tell a lot of care went into the production.

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>>82396552
>I don't want meh though. I want 'damn, this is amazing.'

You're in the wrong hobby then. The meh to amazing ratio when it comes to TF toys is hilariously bad.

>>82397202
Was the CGI in Prime so expensive that they had to do this?

>>82396953
>she was a psycho forced-op tranny

I never read the comics but this sounds funny as fuck and I have a hard time believing it.

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>>82397164
You're forgetting Animated Megatron.

Personally I lost all respect for Prime Megatron when he killed Dreadwing. In general he felt like a step down from Animated Megatron in that he never felt like he united his decepticons. He felt too petty, too 80's villain. I did like his redemption, though.

>>82397164
It had potential but according to hasbro, no one was buying the toys. After season two, Hasbro had to decide on to keep going with Beast Hunters or end it abruptly for an easier to sell "kid-merch friendly" TF series.

Doesn't help that The Hub was going under among all this too.

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>>82397091
In IDW they're alien bio-mechanical beings with complex minds like humans or any other advance race. Not walking fridges.

>>82397242
I think they had to go this route because they wanted to go "monster of the week."

It's like with Prime, they had to use very few characters in order to get the level of animation they wanted

This time, they wanted a brand new Decepticon in every single episode...so they had to make a tradeoff to afford all those character models.

Which was a mistake since half those characters suck and the models will probably remain as one-shots

Cases in point: Ped, the Skunkticons, Terrashock. Three wastes of money right there

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>>82397102
>Comfy as fuck.
That's not Animated

>>82397362
What? Outside of "A Bridge Too Close" Megatron never had more than 4 Decepticons under his command

>>82397213
Well, for the past few years all I've bought is Masterpiece figures.
Though I did pick up a combiner team or 3. And Legends Swerve and Shockwave.

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>>82397411
Sari was the best Deus Ex Machina ever.

>>82397365

It was more The Hub dying than anything else. It cost several million an episode, and ratings were nowhere near high enough to justify that.

Although it had problems from the start; the writers wanted freedom, Hasbro wanted them to follow the new continuity. Then in season 3 the toy designers were pissed that their stuff wasn't being used.

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>>82397403
They're like that in every continuity. Or dang near.

>>82396352
>it's definitely at transformation sequences
Yes.

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>>82397510
>Though I did pick up a combiner team or 3

As much as I love combiners, most of the Hasbro molds were trash.

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>>82397179

>Cybertron's population was 100% male until Arcee
>doesn't make sense

>Transformers shouldn't have romantic relationships. Literally every other type of relationship is A-Okay, just not that one.

I don't get why people are so upset about gay robots. It's not like they can fuck or anything. It's just some one they want to spend their life with.

>>82397281
Furman has developed an obsession with trying to explain female transformers. This was his solution: Arcee was forcibly reformatted into a female and emits a psychic field that makes everyone refer to her by female pronouns. I fucking wish i were making this up.

>>82397517
Sari was one hell of a mary sue.

>>82397581

YOU HAVE A SKY LYNX?!?!

>>82397604
>I don't get why people are so upset about gay robots.
>gay

>>82397639
not really

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>>82397517
WHY CAN'T I BUY THIS?!


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>82397581
Yo that's the first time I've seen the groove mold on sky lynx, how does it work

>>82397581
Dunno what you mean by that. Toys are designed by Hasbro, engineered by Tomy.

Sure, not all the figures were amazing but as a line, it was well done with the gimmick not really taking from the figures themselves.

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>>82397517
HOW

>>82397604
I honestly don't care about Arcee's back story in the comics but I did noticed Furman made female characters constantly angry which was weird.

>>82397604
Furman was fucking dumb. Female Transformers have been around since the year Transformers started.

>>82397604
>I don't get why people are so upset about gay robots
They're gay for starters. Plus they're not just random characters, they're characters that have been around since the 80's. It's only natural that somebody gets pissed off when their favorite childhood toy/character is suddenly gay.

And no, tranny Arcee doesn't make sense. Fembots should just be there with no explanation or have a less ridiculous one.

If you wanna go the "make sense" route, Arcee really doesn't, because IDW actually had female cameos such as Elita-One before Arcee's backstory, and now Caminus is full of them.
Arcee's backstory is not only stupid, but also a plot hole one way or the other.

>>82397604
what issues were her origin this seems like it has to be witnessed to be believed.

>>82397822
Uh. Furman was there when Transformers started.

>>82397899
>And no, tranny Arcee doesn't make sense
I'm not saying Arcee makes sense. I'm saying gay robots make sense because there WEREN'T any females. There wasn't even gender. there still technically isn't any gender.

>>82397943

Spotlight: Arcee

>>82398033
>there still technically isn't any gender.
Wouldn't IDW Blackrock be the first?

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>>82397667
Yes.
>>82397775
It... doesn't. Originally WreckGar(Groove's Mold) was supposed to be Sky Reign's scout-class figure tie-in but there's no official way they work together. You can kinda jam it into the chest so it kinda hangs there.
>>82397782
Takara releases different versions of the combiners than Hasbro. Unite Warriors Bruticus uses a unique mold for Blast Off and an updated version of the Copter mold for Vortex. UW Defensor was released with a Deluxe Groove limb (which Hasbro is releasing eventually in short supply). And don't even get me started on the huge differences between the UW and CW Computron toys.

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>>82397517
YOU WILL NEVER HAVE.

>>82398199

WHERE?!?!?! I've been looking for that guy for months!

>>82398264
Target/Walmart have him on the East Coast now but he's rare.

I've seen more Onslaughts and Scattershots than Skylynx tho.

>>82398352

I AM on the East Coast!

Rassafrassa no good lousy...

>>82398199
I'm pretty up to date on everything. I check tfw and keep up with whats coming.

And Tomys release of Computron looks sexy as hell, but like most of the G1 redos, I never had them as a kid so the Japanese cartoon decos is what I like to lean to.

>>82397944
No he was not,Budiansky was. Furman didn't start writing Transformers until around the time of the movie.

>>82398623

March 1985, actually.

>>82398199
So basically all of combiner wars except for 3 or so molds are bad,but the japanese repaints of the rest of the molds magically make them better. Right.

Its the paint you have an issue with,not the molds.

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>>82396401
>fun
>fun
>tryhard as fuck group of more spehshul than the most spehshul group
>has turbo-energon that somehow makes them better than everyone else because you know, putting jet fuel in a car makes it go 10x faster right?
>overblown as fuck in damn near every appearance
>led by Edgemaximust Fedoracoricus von Hitlerbot
>somehow apparently weren't equipped with shutoff switches despite Megatron putting these in damn near everyone who he pimped out that much

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>>82398695
>Its the paint you have an issue with,not the molds.

No its the molds I have a problem with , its the fact that they use completely unique molds for many UW toys that either won't be released under the hasbro label or they're released for 20 minutes on the toyshop site and never again.

Here is UW Blast Off. IT IS A COMPLETELY UNIQUE MOLD.

>>82398899

Well, fun for me, anyway.

>>82398695
>the japanese repaints of the rest of the molds magically make them better. Right.

Takara Computron uses almost entirely different molds compared to the Combiner Wars version. Takara Deluxe Groove isn't a repaint of Rook you idiot, its a different mold. Takara Blast off is a unique mold, not a repaint of a jet mold you idiot. Vortex uses an updated version of the Hasbro Vortex too.

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>>82398899
It's alright buddy. Some people just can't help themselves to see the cup half empty.

>Last part
That's because they were EXTREMELY loyal to Megatron's cause until Megatron himself betrayed them.

>>82399111

>Takara Computron uses almost entirely different molds compared to the Combiner Wars version.

Theres a CW Computron?

>>82399147

Still feels like a huge oversight.

>>82399111
>updated
>when all that's new is there's four propellers instead of two
yeah, ok.

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>>82399184

Yep. Pic related.

>>82399310

The UW version doesn't have Scrounge?

>>82399319

UW version has all different molds for damn near everyone, cartoon colors, no Scrounge.

Neither version is out yet, all we have are pics of both.

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>>82399310

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>>82399319

Example of just how different the molds out. Left is CW, right is UW.

>>82399376
I don't understand why Hasbro's version of Scrounge is so bad looking.

I can't even tell what the Hasbro vers. is supposed to be cause the drill looks so out of place.

>>82399376

That drill is ridiculously small.

That said, I really really want Scrounge. So I guess I'm buying American.

>>82398964
so 4/5s of Superion, Bruticus, Defensor,and Menasor are terrible molds,but that addition of one deluxe makes them better molds,apparently.

>>82399442

Rather than doing the sensible thing of just mounting the drill on the front of the tank, they put it on the rear of the tank. CW version is literally Brawl backwards with a drill coming out of his ass.

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>>82399284
4 blades instead of 2, the blades also fold up. Its an update no matter how much you want to be retarded about it.

>>82399491
>mounting the drill on the front of the tank
You can actually do that, the stock photo is just being retarded as usual.

>>82399111
Computron and Blastoff are the exception, not the rule. It's a sham that Hasbro dropped the ball on these two, but otherwise, I think the Hasbro combiners look better, except for Computron and Devastator.

Rook is a cooler mold than Groove, and Hasbro is still releasing a deluxe Groove that looks just like the Takara one anyway. Also, Rook is his own mold, so your argumentt is flawed there anyway.

>>82399458
>4/5s of Superion, Bruticus, Defensor,and Menasor are terrible molds

Hey, if you like buying the same mold 14 times be my guest. I'd rather not buy 6 different colors of Jets and Helicopters.

>>82399687

Lucky for me I already have Fall of Cybertron Bruticus.

Saves me some cash.

>>82399687
Ultimately I'm saying that your stance of the Hasbro "molds" being terrible is silly because even if you buy Takara,most of the combiners are the same mold as their Hasbro counterparts. So if they really where trash to you,you still bought some of that trash by going Takara.

>>82399453
Scrounge is Cosmos, the best legends class figure, with a new head. I'd say go for it.

Yes.
t. Shockwave

>>82400241

I intend to.

Pity he doesn't have his special arm. Theres nothing else like it, ya know.

>>82397943
Spotlight: Arcee.

>>82397944
No he wasn't. Budiansky was the one who did the treatment on the original characters. Furman did the backup stories in the UK Marvel comics.

>>82397362
>he never felt like he united his decepticons
He's the only Megatron to ever receive Starscream's true loyalty. It took some doing but he eventually came around.
Dreadwing only betrayed him because of "muh twin". Disobeying the boss means you get put down, end of story (unless you bring him a doomsday present a la Starscream).

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i love you SkyLynx

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>>82398263

>>82398263
Well, neither will you. Srsly, how'd they make that?

>>82397411

No one said it was

>>82397639

Official character. Mary Sue is a term for fanfics

>>82397581
>most of the Hasbro molds were trash.


Only Breakdown. Everyone else was fine

>>82405913
Canon Sue

Everything that I like about Transformers fiction is dismissed by toy collectors as "fanfiction" despite it being, you know, professionally written stuff licensed by Hasbro. Am I cancer?

Does anyone else think James Roberts is cultivating his SJW cult because he likes fucking autistic teenagers for some reason?

>>82398964
But that's garbage, anon. It looks a thousand times worse than Cadbury Slingshot, even if it does have a more Blast Off-like head and an altmode that could charitably be described as a space shuttle. Deluxe Groove is shit too, compared to Rook and Legends Groove which are excellent toys.
The Takara-original molds are by far the worst in Unite Warriors.

>>82408387
No, they are. Go and live your life without worrying about the opinions of whiny neckbeards.

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>All these shitposts against RiD
>All this Strongarm love
>None for Decepticon bounty hunter

I wish Fracture never became one of Steeljaw's toadies. Dude has a rad design, and had the potential to be the next Lockdown

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My RL friend told me that bay is planning to molest TF again with another live porno.

>Say it's not so...

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>>82408728
Yes it's true, Mr. Bay at it again. And this time he will be corrupting this adorable child.

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>>82395941

Thunderhoof is very memorable thank you very much.

EH OH!

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>>82408728

>>82397409

I'm mad that some of the more interesting Cons became one shots like Filch I thought had potiential, we never saw her robot mode in the show outside of it being shadowed,

Scowl who is suppose to be Thunderhoof's henchman and Grimlock's rival. never appears again.

Vertebreak, a evil mad scientist that turns into a train...

Stockade a militaristic commander....this guy was fantastic and voiced by Gregg Berger himself.

Simacore is a genius and physically powerful yet Groundpounder who is just a generic wrestler and shares the same tooling is brought back instead.

and Fracture and Underbite didn't appear at all in Season 2.

ugh.

>>82408692

Totally.

I'm mad he never appeared in Season 2.

it makes no sense for a bounty hunter to join Steeljaw.

Lockdown never joined up with Megatron's faction, neither should have Fracture with Steeljaw.

>>82400342

The mini-con is suppose to be his arm.

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Why the cop-out to return Soundwave, only to trap him again?

I used to think I liked Transformers but I've come to realize I just liked Beast Wars because it happened to be a very well written sci-fi series

>>82390750

It's totally autistic but I fucking LOVED all the little visual details like the scratches and scuff marks they had on the bots in Prime.

Post arcee x jack

i ship it

>>82390750
prime was the best continuity of the transformers

It feels weird seeing so much love for Prime on here.

Most of the people I know that are fans, didn't care for it and some would argue it's the worst they've watched, granted many never watched Energon....

>>82411299
Some people will watch anything. See: people who watched Energon.

I headcanon James Roberts as a child rapist with a fetish for autistic trannies. Do you have any JRo headcanons?

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>>82412718

James Roberts is a Dark Messiah.

Capable of bringing in both good and evil.

>>82411299
>I hate this show!
>Oh a new cartoon?
>I hate this. The previous show was better!

An endless repetitive cycle in the TF fandom. Nobody is ever satisfied.

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>>82410153
>haven't looked into RID since about halfway through season one
>see this

I might've caught up with this series if they'd kept Soundwave around.

>>82412967
BW was better than the 80s animes and TFA was better than the 00s animes and Beast Machines.

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>>82413125
Indeed, I think this series isn't worth sticking around for anymore.
>Prime Soundwave was tops.

>>82396155
Nautica a CUTE

>>82397604
Arcee is cool though. I don't see why so many people complain about her.

>>82398899
Nucleon is a canon thing as were Action Master Elites.
Why are your panini in a twist.

The series was never good in the first place

>>82413125
Prime soundwave is fucking broken would have messed up plot

>>82408387

Depends what it is you like. Theres some terribly bad shit out there (like the Bay movies, or Kiss Players) that have to be dismissed and disassociated because it's so interminably shitty it spoils the whole.

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>>82416022
If you don't apologize to Mr. Bay he will blow up Stonehenge.

>>82388948
We need a transformers animated sequel that is beast wars.

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>>82397604
In the original G1 t.v series, there were female auto-bots.

>Forgetting G1.

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>>82416022
>>82416755
I don't hate Bay at all, because IDW's movie comics were some of the best TF fiction.

>>82413125

I'm glad you're disappointed, SW was as boring and unfun as ever. God was Prime pretentious and bad written.

>>82395586
>After looking it up you're right, but I remember that it didn't make that much. I don't know what I'm thinking of but I could of sworn it did bad.
TF4 made about 200million in the US. It's domestic sales were AWFUL.

>>82395939
IIRC MtMtE was voted best ongoing series by... Comics Alliance?

>>82419125

Hoping the next movie bombs so hard into the shitter we don't see another movie for the next 10+ years, at which point they hopefully decide to do a faithful movie instead of that fucking dog shit Bay pulled from his explosive pockmark ridden asshole.

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>>82397517

>>82410153
He only returned to cock tease Prime fans enough to get them to tune in

THat's it

And trapping him again...what other choice did the writers have?

As far as we know, the only person who could conceivably beat Soundwave in a fight is Megatron himself (and maybe Optimus I guess if they ever got into it?) because they pretty much showed him to be unstoppable in any fight he did get in

So either:
>Soundwave goes back to the Shadowzone
>Soundwave gets nerfed enough that team bee can actually defeat him and put him in stasis
>Soundwave completely wins...but then fucks off for no raisin. Probably leaves earth completely because having him stick around causes a loose plot strand

Honestly, all three are shitty options. They should have left Soundwave alone

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>>82419261
Stop, you're making it worse

>>82419538

If that was his only purpose why did they never advertise he would be back?

Is it not more probable that the staff simply wanted to have fun with their old show?

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>>82419849
Repaint a Drossel if you have any customizer skill.
I dont, but I would if I did, beats the alternative

>>82418098
Yeah, but that is the TV show. The comics which were closer to the intended universe had no gender roles to the Transformers because Shooter and had this as plot points in issues where humans and other aliens that are gendered would identify Transformers as male which confused them, especially when they had pretender shells where would give the impression of being a giant man when in reality they were neither male nor female. This also allowed there to be challenging of of gender stereotypes where character roles like Starscream or Ratchet would be females in other stories but instead were the same as everyone else.

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>>82419965
>they wanted fun

Then they should have brought back a character who actually was fun

>>82420717
That screamer is dead and depiction of ghosts is illegal now

>>82420830
No corpse, no proof of death

>That Starscream will be the unnamed Decepticon fugitive which Ratchet had apprehended in "Decepticon Island". He will get free and become the main villain of season 3

>>82420973
Predakig tssed this arm

Rank the series, /co/.
>Beast Wars - reinvented the franchise in a way that nothing subsequent has managed to; perfectly managed humor/characters/Deepest Lore
>Animated - good mix of humor, worldbuilding and feels with good characters
>RID01 - criminally underrated and funny series that's easily the best of the animes
>Beast Machines - would be fantastic if it wasn't a Beast Wars sequel
>Prime - good enough for its missteps to be far more frustrating than they'd be in a worse show
>Cybertron - far, far better than Galaxy Force, with some great characters
>RID15 - some good episodes, too many bad ones, but the villain designs are great and this Grimlock's superior
>Armada - got better towards the end, but eesh, not great.
>G1 - no redeeming features except for the funny voices and Season 3 Hot Rod
>Energon - why

>>82421416
>G1: Top tier
>G1 Movie: God Beyond God Tier, the definitive Transformers experience
>Beast Wars: Ugly as sin but decent writing
>Beast Machines: Good looking but shit writing
>Animated: Ugly stylized 'bots, didn't care
>Prime/RID: Decent but still kind of ugly stylized 'bots, no-nose faces are terrible
>Bayformers: Literal shit. A boiling pot of shit spilling over the entire franchise

>>82396102

TF4 had the HUUUUUUGE advantage of filming a good chunk in China, and they eat that shit up. IIRC a majority of the money came from there.

>>82421416
Beast Wars > Animated > G1 > Prime > Beast MAchines > RID01 > RID15

I cannot rank the other animes because I never watched them

>>82396405
is strong arm trans? cause that bitch sports some masculine looking lines

>>82423398
She just is the robot equivalent of a musclegirl. A very youthful, lawfag musclegirl.

>>82423398
>is strong arm trans?
>the show is literally called TRANSformers

They all trans, man.

>>82420973
It was a slip of the tongue by the writer for the RiD cartoon comics. Starscream was her favorite but couldn't use him in any stories since she was told he was dead.

>>82390750
Can't say RID looks great, but at least the downgraded artstyle allows them to add more bots. I wish there was a bit more rhyme or reason and the series which is billed as a continuation of the events of Prime actually fit in with Prime's continuity. It's like a very light broadstrokes continuation.

>>82396102
I guess it helps that 3 and 4 were arguably less crappy than 1 and 2

Actually I take that back, 3 wasn't great

>>82419179
Winner of Comics Alliance's Best of 2015: Continued Excellence in Serial Comics.

http://comicsalliance.com/comics-alliance-best-of-2015-continued-excellence-in-serial-comics/

>>82423562
Little kids like Bumblebee and since he's the leader and can be more upbeat, it's gotta be lighter.

>>82423557
On the one hand, that sucks, if THAT'S how we're supposed to get a definitive confirmation of his fate

But you know (and I will admit this is just wishful thinking on my part), it's the COMIC writer...they COULD have fed her misinformation to avoid the comics doing something that would fuck with cartoon continuity, like introducing Starscream before the cartoon was ready to use him in a surprise appearance. (Again, wishful thinking on my part)

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>>82409046
>No, see, it's okay because I have this card in my wallet that proves-
Oh god, oh god no. Make it stop.

Can he please step too close to one of his own explosions? He doesn't need to die, we'll get him a comfy chair, promise.

>>82423673
I don't really mind lighter modes but somehow RID isn't really doing it for me. TFA was lighter hearted, so lighter hearted that the Autobots all had melee and other gadgets (barring BB's low powered stingers) and the seriousness was allowed to creep up a bit over time. RID is just sort of meandering. They need to find a decent showrunner who can tie all the disparate parts together and make sure the show feels like it's building towards something - and more important who knows what the hell it's building up to.

I've decided to start watching G1. Any episodes I should avoid?

>>82426022
All of them.

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>>82426167
Thank you.

>>82426022

They're all going to be goofy, 80's cartoon fun.

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>>82423613
4 was unintentionally hilarious. I don't think I ever laughed at any of the written jokes, but watching the bots shuffle around and do occasional combat rolls every fight was hilarious, and every line out of optimus was pure gold

>I gave you freedom!
>NOW OBEY ME OR DIE

>>82396555
McFeeley if that's you why are such a cunt?

>>82395898
>sideways and sideswipe were great designs
>ironhides death was shocking
>the jokes are sometimes funny
what's not to love?

>>82396055
source

>>82388948
No, hasbro is just too retarded enough to not realize how to implement one of its most interesting prooerties correctly.

>>82431505
It's an adaptation of Combiner Wars from Machinima which will be released as an exclusive from some piece of shit nobody seems to have heard of.

http://comicbook.com/2016/04/05/machinima-debuts-new-teaser-poster-for-transformers-combiner-war/

>>82429721
There is a good movie buried underneath all of AoE's shit. Some other universe got it I'm sure.

I mean, it's obviously two movies stapled together. Like two writers going to present their drafts to Bay bump into each other and drop their papers. So they scoop them all and sweatily hand it in.

>>82398264
I bought mine from BigBadToyStore months ago in a two pack with Onslaught.

>>82405944
Brawl is so bad he makes Breakdown seem like a Masterpiece mold.

>>82419125
It made about 250 million domestically.
That's more than it's budget.
That isn't doing awful.
It was just the low point of the movie series.
The first one, which was known as a huge success, only made 300 domestically (though it had a smaller budget)
But those are all great numbers.

If you could choose to become one Transformer in the Transformers world so you could get away from your life, whom would it be

I'd be Scrounge so I could just die

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>>82432969

>>82433018
Who is that anon? Why did you choose him?

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>>82432969
Overlord because fuck everything.

>>82432969
seaspray
fuck everyone, I'mma go in the ocean.

>>82433165
He does, doesn't he?

>>82433226
You will never find your beautiful transforming mermaid waifu, anon. She doesn't exist. It was just a batch of bad motor oil you drank.

>>82432969
Skyfire so I can be the giant scientist I've always wanted to be.

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>>82433377
Yes. Yes he does.

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>>82388948
>dead
it just had a fairly publicized videogame release

>>82388948
The comics? Yeah. Roberts has gone to shit.

>>82421416
Energon and Cybertron had some good toys.

>>82395898
>the movie toylines haven't been really good snce ROTF/HFTD.
AOE Deluxe and Voyager Dinobots were GOAT

>>82434934
No. The current arc is amazing. Get fucked.

>>82421416
>RID01
I only liked the series for the characters like I do with Beast Machines only the Vehicons though
Sky Byte, Side Burn and Scourge was great. Optimus was suprisingly Star Saber 2.0 rather than G1 Optimus 2.0. Megatron was crazy silly then went haywire. And the kid and T-AI were alright.
I also liked Rail Racer and the build team combination, they were interesting.

>>82429758
Mcfeely has a raging hateboner for the DJD is why anon.

>>82435500
But why is he personally a cunt?

>>82435517
One of the world's great mysteries I guess. We might never know.

>>82434432
Sequel when?
Would love to play as Decepticons, movie casts if they get in, maybe the japanese G1 too if possible 'cause God Ginrai and Star Saber are cool, and maybe the IDW G1 originals as well since Nova Prime is in already.
Speaking of which, I'm surprised to find out that everyone's favorite IDW editor Andy Schmidt was involved with the game.

>>82435500
Wait, Mcfeely from TFwiki?
I thought only Walky and Sipher were cunts from that site.

"McFeely" sounds like a handjob at McDonalds.

>>82435592
McFeely's kind of an entitled assbag more than anything. Subtweeted Roberts a few times I think too.

According to TFG everyone that tweets at Roberts is a terrorist engaged in a harassment campaign. That's why Roberts has long drawn out conversations with them and publishes their letters in his book, it's because he's terrified for his life.

>>82435592
he lives on tumblr, making posts about how important his opinions are

>>82435665
You're not familar with tweets sent by the sis_shrieks lunatic are you.

>>82435686
she has minions that back her up and tweet him too
while were discussing it

>>82435686
How does she not have an article on encyclopedia dramatica yet? She's nuts enough to deserve one.

If MTMTE is so good why can't it cure autism?

>>82435865
Autism in TF fandom is inherent.

>>82388948

The franchise is inherently adaptable to generation after generation.

Praise Harvey Orenstein.

>>82396313

I want that scene in a live-action movie.

>>82435886
>Harvey Orenstein.
The chiropractor?

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>>82435665
>Dramatizing

You get one dumb autistic fetish freak harassing Jro and Roche and suddenly two equals ten to everyone.

>>82399350

I only want Takara Afterburner. The rest can suck it.

Well, okay, maybe Nosecone.

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>>82435865
>>82435881
Autism is in every fandom.

>>82399491
>literally Brawl backwards with a drill coming out of his ass.

...That's pretty cool.

>>82409046

Alternating nail polish. At first off-putting, but then you realize how naive she has to be to think that looks cool.

Someone save her.

>>82418098

In one single episode.

Written by a lady, at that.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0097130/

(Well, okay, Arcee... but that was after the movie).

>>82429721

In his defense, they were dinobots. That tussle was just working out who the top dog was.

Would have been kind of a bummer if Grimlock would have bitten him in two.

WHY DIDN'T THEY FUCKING SPEAK?

>>82435912

No. Harvey Orenstein the guy who went to Hasbro and said "Hey, have you seen this shit? Maybe it would be interesting" when their own guy was asleep on the job.

>>82435947

It's inherent.

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>>82418098
Before even the movie, Orion Pax's gf already existed.
And then there's the whole female warriors.
Plus pic related is Trion's gf, she could be the first granny TF.

>>82435686
Is she related to Raksha?

>>82436171
Nah. She's just this generation Raksha.

>>82436202
History is doomed to repeat itself even in fandom.

>>82436202
Amazing to hear that said given that idiots with a pulpit on the internet are a dime a dozen. Maybe they have followers or supporters or whatever the hell but this kind of drama is a self-inflicted wound. If you happily ignore that shit and just read the comics or watch the shows you like you'll enjoy yourself a lot more. Unless you like gawking at online car wrecks.

>>82420424
>The comics which were closer to the intended universe had no gender roles to the Transformers
This all came about because initially Hasbro was against female Transformers only for female Autobots to show up rather early in the series, long before Arcee. The comics continued without and Furman was known to be particularly resistant to the idea having a rather, ahem, whimsical take on the matter in the issue Prime's Rib. He was equally deadset against it in IDW before later introducing Arcee as a self-loathing abomination to whom gender was forced. This guy has a great sense of comedy, apparently. And now we're at the point where females are coming out of the woodwork, showing up on multiple worlds. So many in fact you wonder what happened to them all on Cybertron.

>>82436346
Some ideas at least in the IDW run:
1. The war killed them off. 1/13 ratio rule whatever.
2. The mass majority of cold forged and MTO bots are male looking templates. Athestics didn't matter for their purpose.

When is IDW going to hire sis_shrieks?

Women are inferior creatures and a technologically advanced race would choose to eliminate femininity if at all possible. The colonies didn't get the memo and Jhiaxus was a hipster.

>>82436524
When they hire Walky.

>>82436572
Every professional TF writer already uses the wiki as a reference. Except the people writing the movies, which all the real fans hate.

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>>82436504
There was this probable fembot who showed up in the alternate functionist universe Perceptor whoopsed into being. Kind of makes you wonder how she existed given their demand to understand the purpose in every form.

Of course we can speculate away about that character. Only looks female, a member of one of the colonies which Cybrertron may not have lost access to in the new timeline, or maybe a body-mod job specifically to piss off the functionists, or any other of theories.

>>82436626
Female form has no functional purpose in robots ?

>>82436971

It would if the Quintessons had created the Transformers.

>>82434432
I'd love a bigger budget sequel. How well did Devastation sell

>>82437008
Any of the writers trying to introduce robot sex into the comics?

>>82388948
After NEET chicks started doing yaoi pairings of each transformer character, especially TFA and TM:AoE

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>>82436346
Funny though, Furman do put in female transformers OC in his TF fanfics (they were the angry and fierce types, but this is Furman, everyone are either angry, shady or Grimlock) and his War Within run did have female transformers as well.
Only pic related is named though, and that was by Don.

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I found a preview of Nautica's appearance in the next issue.

>>82437902
/aco/ was a big mistake

>>82396645
>I can see her showing up in IDW like Knockout did
Is that even allowed, for now at least?
I mean I'd love to see her in IDWverse, but Lockdown and Knockout got in way after their series finished. Can she just pop right in while RID is still going?

>>82438053
didn't strafe got in when the bayhem is still on cinemas? though he became a she and landbased?

>>82437759
>TM:AoE
Age of Extinction?
What is there to pair, Crosshairs and Drift?

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>>82438159
i'm so sorry
https://www.tumblr.com/search/crossdrift

>>82421416
Armada had great Starscream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1img3-8lTc

So is Thunderwing dead for good?

>>82439335
I don't think so.

He's probably just stuffed into a locker with other things from the -ations period that they can't figure out what to do about.

After all, neither the cons nor the bots would be stupid enough to do anything with him. I don't even think Starscream would try to let him out.

Maaaybe Windblade would, if she finds out he's being held prisoner.

>>82439398
>unleashing the guy that pretty much bring cybertron to its knees and cause both autobots and decepticons fucking band together twice just to repel him because he's a poor imprisoned soul :(
I won't be surprised if she actually does that.

>>82439335

Firman implied he's either dead or locked up somewhere.

I wanna know what Scorpinok is up to, personally.

>>82439553
>I wanna know what Scorpinok is up to, personally.
Improsoned in Garrus 9 last time we saw him, right?

>>82439513
She'll probably think that as a city speaker, she could "reach him" inside the shell.

Knowing her luck, she probably would and make things even worse.

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>>82439553
>>82439580
Back in -ation and Max Dinobots, he was a headmaster.
TR is the perfect time to bring him back.

>>82439580

As far as we know, yeah.

If they really are bringing Headmasters back, however, now is the perfect time to let him out.

>>82395941
Really I think most of the show's Decepticons have been great.

>>82443565

I love most of them, but there's been a couple that simply didn't do much beyond attack, the spider guy from Season 1 for example, he literally was just evil and had an accent, that's fucking lame.

On the bright side they atleast give us a lot of fun colorful bad guys instead of "the same guys everyday we just never develop them.", I just wish we got more screentime for Glowstrike, but I'm hopeful she might do more since Season 2 was full of Season 1 guys getting a second wind.

>>82421416
>BW: same thing you said, though S1 and S3 are rough with uneven pacing and tone
>Animated: same, too bad the animation (not talking about art style) was mostly shit, and it takes a while to get going
>BM: same
>Rescue-Bots: fun stuff for little kids, pretty intelligent for what it is, only watched the first 2 seasons though
The next few are more or less tied for me.
>G1: shit-covered classic, did some neat things for its time, has a lot of very memorable characters and ideas, it's a varied mix with some great stuff in it but also tons of trash.
>Cybertron: pretty fun, okay characters, pacing can be whack, had the potential to be much better
>Prime: looks nice, has some memorable moments and ambition, but next to no sense of direction and its world and most of its characters are boring garbage
>RID15: feels like all the fun and character they should have included in Prime became its own show, but that's not enough to make it good. Haven't seen the last 7-8 eps.
After these:
>Armada: like a retarded kid that produces something great every now and then, too bad you have to fish it out from under its own vomit
>Energon: like smashing your newborn against the wall and trying to raise it with as little effort as possible

Haven't seen much of the rest.

>>82422002
Yeah, it actually made less than DoTM in America, but it made more than enough in Asia.

>>82421416
>>Beast Wars - good writing, good animation for the time, just wish Season 3 wasn't a fucking mess like it was
>>Animated - bad writing ruined all potential it had, worldbuilding should be done in the show and go hand in hand with the plot, not done on twitter because the show was busier showing us construction buttcracks, shame because season 2 showed promise when it wasn't being fucking boring
>>Beast Machines - mature themes, too bad boring characters that are impossible to like and villains with no charm are too impossible to enjoy for me to give a flying fuck
>>Prime - also badly written, atleast had pretty animation, gave up before season 2 was done because of the seriously retarded episode where the entire drama is "is bulkhead gonna stop being mad he's hurt also silas is gone and his entire plotline was a waste"
>>RID15 - cracks me up and my son loves it, reminds alot of G1 in tone but not written by mad monkeys, but would never ever be on the same level of Beast Wars. animation is weird as hell too
>>G1 - grew up on it, its mostly careless shit, but the characters were just fun, at the time it had the most energetic cast of shows around, so i think it did its job well but rewatching is hard

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Picking up from last night...

I have a mad quest to do color models for all of the unique Seekers from G.I Joe vs. Transformers.

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>>82444030
(because this guy is based on Astrotrain, it's pretty easy to figure out what his front would look like.)

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This guy has a wing configuration never seen on any prior conehead. A bunch of the coneheads in this series had unique wing structures. (One was a quad-VTOL!)

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>>82444275
Annnd... thus!

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This guy is fun. He has a craaazy design.

>>82444030
Is it true CW Viper is in this comic?

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>>82396313
I agree. The G1 move was the best. This is my favourite scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzNsOGt3bHk

>>82437759
but theres been plenty of yaoi art and fic since the 80's cartoon.

They have always been here.

>>82444400
>Is it true CW Viper is in this comic?
Yes. We see him getting bowled over on one page.

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>>82444400
Yeah, but only for a panel.

ALL HAIL OPTIMUS

>>82443651
>the spider guy from Season 1 for example, he literally was just evil and had an accent, that's fucking lame.
...you mean Chop Shio? Chop Shop was fucking cool, but I'm biased because I've wanted him to actually do something in some media for years. Kleptomaniacal master thief that steals anything that isn't nailed down? That's good shit. And I was damned pleased with RiD's take, which was that same characterization but with an additional gimmick to give his name a double-meaning - he can sub-divide into smaller bodies, so no matter how much you break him, he can survive if a single piece gets loose. That's fucking cool.

To be honest, the accent was the last thing on my mind, but even I think it's pretty appropriate.

>>82437902
Wow, she really got fat. Is this some kind of near-death experience so became hedonist that consumes more than 4 times the amount of Energon needed?

>>82442663
Should rename that file "Death on Six Legs"