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Captain America: Civil War

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Whose Side Were You On...before you watched it?
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And whose side were you on...after you watched it?
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Is there really anyone who didn't side with Captain America other than manlets?
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Before: Caps
After: whichever one stopped Wanda's suffering
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>>82381947
#TeamCap
>>82381963
#DoubleTeamCap
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>>82381947
Before? Team Cap

After? Team Iron Man.

Both sides had understandable motivations but the only reason I was on Team Cap int he first place is because I thought Tony was going to be an absolute cunt about the accords. Turns out he's just doing his best to make as much good as he can out of a bad situation.

Plus, I have to admit, I really like his suit in this movie.
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>>82381947
ANT-MAN
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>>82381947
>>82381963
Team Cap

Team Cap
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>>82382005
>You failed to protect her smile
why are we still here? just to suffer?
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>>82381947
>>82381963
that's some nice art
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>>82381947

Iron Man's

>>82381963

Spider-Man's
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>>82382082
>tfw I'm gonna watch the movie again
I don't think I'll be able to handle suffering again
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>>82381947
>>82381963
Tony, and Tony.
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>>82382116
>I'm going to try and see it again too
think of it as penance for our mistakes
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>>82381947
Iron Mans
>>82381963
Iron Mans
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>>82382149
>"This is not some cute technology like the Iron Man suit."
>Ant-Man suit gets BTFO by two Iron Man suits

Scott was just salty.
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Do you think Thor would laugh about all of this when he returns to earth?
And how would they all team up for Thanos after this shitshow?
Thor speech or just like Avengers1 where in they unite because coulson got 'killed'? But this time its the real deal with Vision dying in the hands of Thanos.
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>>82382140
>>82382116
>>82382082
>>82382005

>Wanda's suffering

She literally Beat the ever loving shit out of Vision to leave a house no one on this board would ever leave and probably cost Tony more to build than rebuilding everything in Sarkovia just to break the law.

She deserves the weekend she spent in a highly maintained prison before being busted out.
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>>82381947
Cap. He's been my favorite since they made Cap 1 star a boy scout without the slightest hint of irony.

I was getting tired of the House/Tony/Wolverine snarky tone everything had back then, and Cap shone like a beacon of hope.

But man, did they make me undecided by the end of the movie. I even fucking felt for Zemo. Everybody was just in a tragic situation with understandable reactions, even if not logically justifiable ones.

I always thought of the Russos as efficient story tellers on a brainy level, and Gunn as the emotional kind, but this has shown that they have a lot more to them. I guess early community should've warned me, but one always remembers the themed episodes, even though they only worked when interwoven with the regular ones.
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>>82382216
Is Hulk confirmed to be appearing in Thor Ragnarok?

The Thor movies are the weakest of the MCU lineup desu.

Still hoping for a WWH movie desu
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>>82382251
Ross please leave
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>>82382216
I don't think MCU thor would oppose to it, since Tony isn't as much of a villain and never cloned him.

But I think we're gonna see Wanda take on his place on THAT scene from the comics. That's what makes the most sense.
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>>82382216
>"My friends, I have returned to Earth to warn you of....oh dammit"
>>82382292
He might take issue with being ordered about by the government.
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>>82381947
Cap
>>82381963
Cap with my beliefs vindicated
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>>82382216
>Do you think Thor would laugh about all of this when he returns to earth?

I think the Winter Soldier thing would really mess with his moral code. Because on one hand, Cap's situation reminds him of MUH LOKI, but the revelation of Tony's plight would tug at his heart because his mother recently died and he did in fact get revenge on the person responsible. Add to that, "he wasn't in his right mind" and "you're a prince aren't you? Would you tolerate an unchecked vigilante group in Asgard if it cost civilian lives?"
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>>82382346

>"you're a prince aren't you?"

This alone made me really want a movie where Thor and T'Challa learn all about being great leaders together.
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>>82381963
Cap. Always and forever.
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>>82382323
>He might take issue with being ordered about by the government.
He's the son of a king and he knows what kind of responsibility that entails.

He wouldn't like it, but he would understand why it needed to happen
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>>82382251
>applying logic to waifufags
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>>82382447
I can see T'Challa admiring how well Thor handled his mother's death instead of going off the rails like he did when T'Chaka died.

In turn, Thor would respect how T'Challa did not shy away from the throne as he had.

Then he would complain about how humid Wakanda is because the greenest places he's been to have been cold, dry forests.
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>>82381963
FREEDOM and FREEDOM
CAW CAW
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Which Civil would you War?
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>>82382507

Dammit.

I don't usually partake in this stuff but...

I want a Black Panther/Thor version of what Cap and Bucky have.
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https://twitter.com/BoxOffice/status/726795994042646528
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>>82382274
>Is Hulk confirmed to be appearing in Thor Ragnarok?
>Still hoping for a WWH movie desu
nigga
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>>82382292
What, Wanda BTFOing Tony instead of Thor?
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>>82382647
Yeah. She already kind of did it, but she's not full power yet.

Tony is scared of her, too. He never called her to ask her to stay put, he resorted to Vision. He also never talks to her on the Raft or anywhere else.
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>>82382766
(cont) It kind of makes sense too, since she's the one whose powers he can't understand at all, really. He has some idea on what Vision can do, if not how, but she's just too foreign for him.
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>>82382538
>T'Challa and Thor start off as great pals
>Then Thor hits on and fucks Bast and it all goes to shit.
>Black Panther: Sacred Invasion
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>>82382789
>>82382766
>Tony's plan to deal with the witch was telling vision "fuck her and take her away"
Too bad he didn't see Hawkeye coming.
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CIVIL WANK
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>you just started a war

Did Tony even say this? I was waiting for it but don't remember it actually being said.
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>>82382815
Tony's plan was to just lock her a lavish home instead of letting the government put her in a padded cell.

The whole movie is Tony making compromises because he knows he fucked up and wants to make it up to the world.
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>>82382867
No.
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>>82381947
Team Iron Man
>>82381963
Team Tony Stark
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>>82382867
Nah. They used a LOT of alternate takes on the trailers. The running at each other part was cut to hell with the lines' order and line-up being completely changed to add Ant-Man and Spider-Man.
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>>82382867
The trailers seem to have a whole bunch of different takes used. Most of the wham lines are spoken differently in film, like the perfect teeth line.
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>>82381947
before: Cap's
after: Ant-Man's but probably closer to Tony's
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>>82381947
Caps
>>82381963
Iron Man's

this is the only correct answer, they needed regulating
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>>82382806

>T'challa and Thor have been friends for a while
>"T'challa my friend. There is something I have been meaning to ask you"
>T'Challa looks quizzically at Thor
>"My Brother Loki brought it up and Stark said it was natural and well..."
>T'Challa looking more concerned as Thor trails off
>"Can I call you my Nigga?"
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>>82383037
>Nigga
Come to think of it, isn't this movie has a lot of great niggers?
Rhodes is best nigga by the way.
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>>82383250
You're wrong they aren't niggers they're black men.
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>>82383298
They are our niggas. Falcon was pretty based and Rhodey is the loyalest motherfucker around.
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>Man, I guess Bucky did kill Tony's parents huh?
>Well, instead of telling him right now, I'm just gonna wait, because I can't handle how awkward or fucked up that conversation will be!
Seriously, Cap is a fucking idiot.
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>>82381947
Team Iron Man and Team Iron Man

so glad i made the right decision
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>>82382914
Underrated
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>>82383359
when did he find that out though?
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You are now Tony during the big reveal in the end , what do you do?
>go apeshit
>control your anger and channel it to someone/where else
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>>82383484
Natasha gave him some HYDRA files at the end of WS, iirc.
Either way, he knew it was most likely Bucky that did it.
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>>82383491
By that point he was under so much stress he just couldn't handle it anymore. I guess I'd also go apeshit.
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>>82383491
Go apeshit. Especially if I just saw a video of my parents murder with the murderer in the same room.
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>>82383484
Zola shows him.
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>>82381947
>>82381963
As much as I love both Ironman and Captain America, I'm on any side that has Spider-man. Sorry Cap, Teamironman for me.
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>>82383491
Quipping.
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>>82381963
>>82381947
Could someone get these side by side on a single image?
I need it for reasons.
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>>82383570
>"well, that really KILLS the mood, right Cap?"
>proceeds to repulsor beam Bucky's shit
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>>82381947
Cap and Cap

How can anyone support being on the same side as Ross, even if it's a compromise, is beyond me.

And don't give me that "but they need to, to be legitimate", they'd just become a useless force, as it'd likely depend on the security council which would NEVER agree on which missions to give them.
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>>82381947
Captain America.
>>82381963
Still Captain America but I fell in love with Black Panther and Spider-Man.
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>>82383641
> but I fell in love with Black Panther and Spider-Man.
Fuck off Natasha.
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>>82383595
I don't know how to into transparency
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>before
Team Cap
>after
Team Zemo
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>>82383626
I sided with Tony many because he legitimately wants things to be right. He was just so broken throughout the movie, but he still tried.
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>>82382082
Cap, I'm already a demon.
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>>82383711
I agree with that, but the problem with Tony is that he wants things to be right and has the best of intentions, but it somehow inevitably goes wrong, he either picks the wrong choice or simply shit happens.
It's part of why he is tragic.
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>>82383626
>supporting a man who helps a fugitive
Absolutely disgusting.
People like bucky regardless of le mind control should be imprisoned forever or better yet get executed.
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>>82383491
Tony is the kind of guy who channels his anger by killing people.
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What did Spiderman say when he knocked Cap over? It sounded like 'the ostrich said to go for your legs' but that's complete nonsense so I must have misheard.
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>>82383759
"He also said to go for your legs!"

Tony told him to go for Cap's legs. Not an.. ostrich...
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>>82383759
>He also said to go for your legs.
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>>82383759
"Stark said to go for your legs"
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>>82383759
he also said to go for your legs
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>>82383359
Steve: Stark...hey. I just wanted to talk to you about...huh, what are these?
Tony: Cap, just the man I didn't want to see. You've ruined the surprise. I'd like you to meet the Iron Legion 2.0. Just a little something for crowd control and protection while we do our thing. I just need to put in the finishing touches to the friend/foe subroutines and they'll be ready to go. But, with me being me, I've got a little time to spare. What did you want to talk about?
Steve: Uhhh, it can wait

(later)

Steve: Tony, I think it's high time we talked about your pare-Banner?
Bruce: Hi Steve
Steve: Are you...are you two making armor for the Hulk?
(Bruce chuckles)
Tony: Thanks, Rogers. You just cost me 10 bucks. No, it's not for clothing the Hulk but for...busting the Hulk
Steve: Why would you make that? (to Banner) And why would you help him make that?
Bruce: In case I lose control. Just a little contingency for a worst case scenario
Tony: But it's made us come up with all sorts of great ideas. Go ahead, tell him about it. Tell him.
Bruce: No
Tony: Tell him
Bruce: No, I don't want to
Tony: C'mon, it was your idea
Bruce: And I don't want to share it
Tony: if you won't, I will
Bruce: Fine. Uh, to save on storage space and to make sure it's ready to be deployed at any given moment, we're going to keep the armor up (points up) in low orbit on a Stark Satellite
Steve: This...Hulk busting armor is just going to be up there? All the time?
Tony: Oh don't get your Stars and Garters in a twist, Rogers. It's perfectly safe. And as an upside, it's not JUST for containing the Hulk. If ever I need to hit a bad guy hard and heavy, I can just have Jarvis call this down and (punches palm) Stark Smash
Bruce: I would like to reiterate that I have never once said that word as the Hulk.
Tony: Yeah, whatever. Steve! Anything else we can help you with?
Steve: Uh...mmm...nah...it can wait. Just...this won't kill Banner will it?
Tony: No. Anyone else though? I make no promises
Steve: Right
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>>82383759

>Mr Stark said you'd say that
>He Also said to go for your legs
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How long does the movie take place in?

About a week?

I mean, for once it kind of works, as it was Zemo's keikaku. It makes him feel like he just saw the opportunity and went with it.
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>>82383744
Bucky was a victim of Hydra as much as the people he killed.
You sound like a sandnigger, killing women when they're raped.
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>>82381947
Cap

>>82381963
Haven't seen it yet. Pretty sure it'll still be Cap.
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>>82383779
>>82383784
>>82383788
>>82383789
>>82383800
Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.
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>>82383759
>the ostrich
Shit thanks for making my day familia
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>>82383680
Thanks a bunch, man.
If anyone can make this into a png, I'd appreciate it a lot.
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>>82383804

what the fuck is a keikaku?
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>>82381947
Team Cap

>>82381963
Team Iron-man
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>>82383744
I guess Clint should also be imprisoned then.
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>>82383824
Master plan in animu speak.
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>>82383824
Japanese for 'Just as planned'.
A phrase meaning that Zemo's Plans were successful.
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>>82383824
>this new
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You're supporting the dumb Fuck who hides a murder and protects an assassin? On top of that he's so fucking dumb he never wants to talk thing out and thinks only he is right.
Sorry but you're just fucking stupid
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>>82383730
>not "Cap, I'm already a witch"
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>>82383824
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>>82383824
Translator's note: keikaku means plan.
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>>82383824
Japanese for "plan", english for "outlandish plan that had no real odds of working realistically, but it all somehow fell into place".

See: Zemo, Ozymandias, Batman, etc,
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>>82383878
You forgot Weisman.
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>>82383878
Batman's plans make perfect sense
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>>82383626
Because a country should have the right to decide whether it wants an atomic rage monster involved in combat operations on it's soil.

it's a sovereignty issue
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>>82383744
>People like Bucky
Fuck off he's a victim. He's been tortured and brainwashed for decades, he had no control over his actions whatsoever, the killings he did haunts him, all he wants is to be free of the mindcontrol.

It's understandable why Tony would go apeshit and try to kill him, but it wouldn't be 'justice' in any way, since Bucky was just used as a tool by someone else to kill the Starks.
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>>82383855

>not understanding Japanese on a board for western animation and comics means you're new

At least I'm not the only one here struggling with languages
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>>82383971
It's like asking what desu means.
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>>82383759
"The stork said to go for your legs"
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>>82384001
What DOES it mean?
I just see it get thrown around all over this place but I never did bother to look into its meaning.
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>>82384024
Fucking newfag.
Desu.
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>>82384001

No it's not. It's like someone who doesn't understand English asking you what a turn of phrase is.
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ENGLISH CAMRIP WHEN
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>>82384069
That shit is common 4chan buzzword. Anyone who doesn't know what that means it's obviously new.
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Havent watched it yet, where can I see it online?
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>>82384249
There's a torrent for a Spanish dub.
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>>82384249
On the internet.
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>>82384249
Go to the theater pleb.
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>>82384146
Been here for over 10 years never bothered to look into it. Give the guy a break.
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>>82383744

>Bucky should be executed
>But not Tony who has caused FAR more innocent deaths

GOY FAGGOT.
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>>82384146

Again it really isn't.

Desu and Kawaii are 4chan buzzwords and I know what they mean.

Keikaku sounds like something /a/ uses when talking about Bleach or some shit.
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>>82384396
>this new
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>movie doesn't release in the states for another week
>generals already spoiled everything

Why can't yuropoors be range banned again?
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>>82384396
Nah Keikaku is still a common 4chan phrase.
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>>82384396
Nah man, it's been used a lot, and I've never used desu or kawaii. It's just a silly word to describe a trope, man, let it go.
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>>82384424

>proven wrong
>jumps back to his original argument like nothing has been proven

Okay. I'm gonna go shitpost in the anime vs cartoon thread. Come with, its gonna be keikaku
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>>82384428
>Browses /co/ expecting not to be spoiled when new capeshit comes out
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>>82384457
>this new
I can do this all day.
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>>82384428
but I'm from SEA
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>>82383821
4u
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>>82384396
holy shit you newcunt I bet you weren't even around for code geass

18+
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>>82384490
I love you, man.
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>>82384490
Thanks bug guy.
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>>82384490
>4chan
>helpful
where's the hidden dick?
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>>82384428
It was your choice to read those.
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>>82383855
>>82383971
>>82384069
>>82384396
>in 2 years there will be people asking what baneposting is
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>>82384498
>There are people who weren't alive during 9/11 browsing 4chins,
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>>82384498

The fuck is that? Did that show with the huge foreheads get a second season or something?
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>>82381947
>>82381963
#TeamIronMan
#Always
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>>82384526
Background of the left side. It was already in the image, didn't feel the need to add it
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>>82381947

Always Team Cap.

Accountability means shit to the villains in the MCU, having any government on the way just makes a mess of things.
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>>82384551
You realise current Spidey was probably born after 9/11?
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>>82384596
I'm sure JJJ would still blame him
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>>82384551
>9/11
wtf??? what
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>>82384428
>Hey look, a thread discussing a movie that's out in some places
>I'm from one of those places that it's not out in yet, and I don't want it spoiled.
>Better read through these threads anyway
0/10, you barely even deserve a (You)
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>>82384629
He's 15 in 2016. He was either born after or less than a year before.
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>>82382093
For you
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>>82384478
SEA nigger reporting in
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>>82384526
Tony is in the image dude.
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>>82384567
Heh.
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>>82381963

Still Team Cap

But I'm really glad they made the conflict entirely grey, with both parties having legitimate reasons, and both having selfish reasons.
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>>82384665
I like the term SEA monkey desu
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>>82384692
Was the theater packed?
people were forming lines at mine and that was on a Sunday, I couldn't imagine the lines back on Friday and Saturday
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Expecting to be on Team Cap, was Team Iron Man by the end. He was so broken ;-;
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>>82384490
>>82383680
>Falcon, Spidey, and War Machine screw up the alignment

Great work, you dorks.
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>>82382491

He went against his fathers orders when he was unreasonable and was willing to give Mjolnir for going against his will once the trouble was over.

MCU Thor would be very conflicted about Civil War and probably take no side.
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>>82384715
yes, packed and lines. Not that much because all of the theaters have like 4 cinemas dedicated to the movie.

>3 regular 2D showings
>always 1 3D showing

I wanted to get reservations but luckily not that many on the Mall I went to. Might be different on other Malls.
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>>82384776
You know for once at least have something the US doesn't have, being able to watch movies before it starts in the US
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The Russos have such a good grasp on how to shoot fights with these characters, its astounding. Vision alone is amazing. So much phasing. Leaps and bounds above the boring slugfests of Whedons.

I can't wait for them to rescue Thor and Hulk.
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>>82384818
I like the fact that most marvel movies or big blockbusters are shown in March-May, then on September-November.

International movie Holiday releases are always fucked here because they give way to the local film festival which sucks ass btw.

Though I don't know why we get first dibs on movie releases.

One of my main complaints about the movie was the shaky cam fights. I really hope they dial it back and get a long wide shot and little to no cuts.
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>>82382216
>And how would they all team up for Thanos after this shitshow?
Thanos kidnapping Vision aka the mind gem will bring them together
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>>82381947
X-Men.
But then again, I didn't watch it.
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>>82384902
Yeah, it's once of those "tricks" used in action movies to simulate speed. It's good to a degree but I noticed that the Russo's only used it for close up fights which means they know it doesn't belong in big scale fighting
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>>82384887
It's one of my most anticipate flicks actually.
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>>82382059
I liked how they brought up the consequences for him promising Pepper to stop in Iron Man 3 and then showing up again in Avengers 2 with an even better suit
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>>82382216
Cap's letter to Tony at the end implies they have made up their differences so i don't think there will be any trouble regarding them reuniting when the time calls
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>>82385067
They haven't, he's just saying
>Dude, if another Ultron comes on, the Accords are not going to matter much, so give us a call and we'll stop him together since none of this will matter if Earth is toast.
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>>82384887
>>82385015
I just don't like that Sif is getting ignored just to put a black person with Thor.
Seriously nobody wants it, stop I'm brown and I don't want to see that shit, who are the target audience for this?
But of course I won't have a solid opinion until I see a trailer
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>>82385067

>made up

He was just extending an love branch, things weren't anywhere near cleared-up between them.
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>>82385067
They really haven't made up. Cap just offered Tony help when he needs it, and gave an apology for a really fucked up issue that Cap only made worse.
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>>82385161

>love

*olive
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>>82385151
>>82385015
Waititi is the man. I wasn't even planning on going to watch this in the cinema until they announced him. He's probably their best overall director, bar Ryan Coogler, maybe.
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Iron Man, before and after.

I feel Cap represents the whole American idea of intervening in third world affairs which only keep the whole terrorist / freedom vs them war going, so I could only side with Iron Man. Then once Black Panther showed his face that only cemented it.

Couldn't go against Spidey or Widow at first either.
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>>82385483
>Cap represents the whole American idea

Yeah might as well name him captain america
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>>82381947
Before: Team Cap

After:.... I don't know man.

Both sides did questionable things. But both sides were right to some extent. And both sides were somewhat justified in what they did.

The first part of the film goes into the difficulties of heroics. Both Cap and Tony are right. The second part goes into Cap doing the vigilante thing, While tony is just trying to follow orders. both were kinda right.

And in the third part, while Tony was being emotional and irrational, Steve had betrayed him. By not letting him know about the nature of the death of his parents. Tony has become a man seeking vengeance and restitution, whats fair, while Steve has become a shadow of himself, no longer the strong eys-man whow as accountable, but a person who ahd actually held a secret. I can actually see the movie Steve as being a member of the MCU version of the Illuminati. Not as a secret government kind of thing, but more as an above the law vigilante thing

The most poignant part of the movie was when Steve dropped the shield.

...Actually you know what. I think there is a team I can get by at the end. #TeamBlackPanther. Because, the real moral of the story, at the end of the day, is that vengeance consumes us all, and divides us.
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My 9yo son was Team Ironman before the movie.

But changed to Team Cap after the movie.

Me? I just loved the Giant-Man cameo.
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>>82382082
>>82382140
You failed, accept it.
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Christ, this movie did the Civil War concept so much better. The comic was just "Tony is evil, Cap is oppressed" but this movie kept me so in between that I don't know where I stand
>fun marketing campaign, choose your side! Haha fun Marvel movie!
>actual film was constant questioning and suffering on both sides, ideological and emotional trauma
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>>82385635
I hope we see Team Cap show up in Black Panther
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>>82385913
Please don't remind me ;__;
>I've been waifufagging all thread long
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>>82385943
This is the tone I wanted AoU to have.
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>>82386101
AoU was my lesson in "try not to get hyped unless you're sure".
I wanted so much from the characters, their motivations, their actions, and the story.
I got quips, needlessly killing off a top character and unnecessary romance
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>>82386164
Don't forget the omelets. What a waste of Villain.
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>>82381947
Iron Man before the movie, I personally liked the idea of some kind of regulation but knew it had faults (faults that could only be fixed from the inside etc.). I'm glad that was still the case, even at the end of the movie.

But by the end of the movie? Black Panther. His scene near the end was fantastic and, let's be honest, he's the side you're supposed to be on. I'm really looking forward to the Black Panther movie now.
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>>82386199
>the trailers made him out to be a better villain than he actually was
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>>82386164
I want to see a comparison done of those two movies.
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>>82386270
>black panther side
What side? He was muh dad throughout all the movie and even sided with Tony during the airport battle to get his hands on Bucky. I'm not saying it was bad but he didn't give a fuck about the whole registration thing.
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>>82386410
It would be easier to see what they did the same
>both at least managed to introduce their new characters well as opposed to ham-fist
>my waifu was in both of them
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>>82386410
For starters Zemo didn't quip a single time.
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>>82386418
You made the anon's point
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>>82386446
It's weird I though the new characters in AoU would be the weakest part but they turned out to be the strongest.
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>>82386418
>Didn't give a fuck about the registration thing
>Was against vengeance
Exactly. The best side.
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>>82386482
I miss him already :(
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>>82386571
I'm sure someone else does too.
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>>82386571
Which side would he have been on in Civil War? I want to say Cap.
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>>82386634
Would have been really interesting if he survived and he fought in the opposite side of Wanda.
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>>82386634
Whatever side Wanda was on desu senpai

>>82386605
d-delete this ;____;
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>>82386693
It would have been fun to see him fight Spider-man.
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>>82386634
Cap for sure.
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>>82386693
It would be interesting, but I seriously doubt he not only would side against Wanda, but with Iron Man.
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Look at this happy family. Like a old-fashioned sitcom.
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>>82386790
It would have made the sides a bit uneven.

But you know, we never did hear about him. Or see Clint on the farm did we? Hmm.
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>>82386634
>>82386759
>>82386790
>Quickslav and Hawkeye against the Vision
That could've been golden.
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>>82386852
>team kooky quartet
>this will never happen
Goddamn it.
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>>82386833
>Team Cap gets Quickslav
Who does Iron Man get to balance it then guys?
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>>82386817
I want to buttrape ANTS.

>>82386918
Team Iron Man has fucking Vision. You could add Sharon on top of Quickslav and Stark would still have the advantage.
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>>82386164
>I wanted so much from the characters, their motivations, their actions, and the story.
But AoU contain all of that.
>I got quips, needlessly killing off a top character and unnecessary romance
Except for maybe Quicksilver's death, non of that was wrong.
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>>82386918
Make Vision more active in the airport fight.
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>>82381947
>>82381963
Iron man. After still Iron Man, Bucky is fucking trash and ruins everything.
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>>82386972
>>82387001
>Vision gets boner for Wanda, nearly kills Rhodey
I get where your coming from but Wanda is the counter to Vision really, in power and character dynamic
>no relationship banter between Vision and Quicksilver as Pietro tries to speed around Vision while stopping to tell him when to bring Wanda home and to use protection or to reference casual incest
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>>82382203
don't you mean Hank?
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>>82386972
>I want to buttrape ANTS.
Please let the porn flow for this. People seem willing to draw almost anyone when it comes to pairing them with Cap and Bucky.
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>>82381947
Tony of course. At the end i notice Cap was right but Tony was in the right to try to kill Bucky
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>>82384731
All of them can be up in the air you dingus
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>>82386918
Taskmaster would be fun
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>>82381947
Before: Neither. I think both sides make good points, and I feel torn between both Cap and Iron Man.

After: I'm an American and it's not in theaters yet. I can't find any good streams either. The most I've seen was that airport scene that got posted here a few days ago.
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>>82381947
>before
team cap
>after
>team cap

>>82381947
>>82381963
But to be honest both sides were retarded
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>>82383824
>this is /co/
wew lad , but we are not tumblr they said
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>>82386694
Why?
It's just Wanda being her usual dead-inside self.
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>>82387867
I don't want to see her suffer like this
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>>82381947
>Black Widow with those stunsticks

Caps side just to get violated by her senpai
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>>82387917
This is your reward for not protecting that smile.
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Anyone have that gif of Sam and Bucky in the car while Sharon kisses Steve?
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>>82388038
Have a webm of the scene.
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>>82388003
I tried. I really did try, I wasn't strong enough.
how can there be MORE sad Elizabeth Olsen posts
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>>82388038
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>>82388084
>Bucky genuinely happy because he's 90 year old friend is finally getting laid
>Sam looking proud like a succesful wingman
They really saved the scene.
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>>82388073
What went so, very wrong anon?
Why did you fail her?
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>>82381963
Before: team IM
After: team IM
cap needs to align or be put down like a dog
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>>82388100
>Sam looking proud like a succesful wingman
Carlos pls.
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>>82388084
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>>82388100
He's still a virgin though.
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>>82388175
it was that fucking stupid Tony Stank and his fucking government butt buddies with their shitty suits and "morally right" androids with god powers
we got to the quinjet, but at what cost?
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>>82381947
I'm interested in knowing what casual audiences thought about this movie.
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>Sebastian Stan said in an interview Steve is the only reason Bucky didn't an superhero himself

So is Civil War a cautionary tale against the consequences of the mortal sin of homosexuality?
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>>82388184
Man, I like to think that Cap likes to joke around in less serious situations, and that puns are his go-to jokes.

I bet he calls Sam his wingman all the time, much to Sam's increasing annoyance. Like Paul Rudd and Mac and Me in Conan.
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>>82388344
There were a lot of subliminal messages pointing at it.
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>>82383359
He knew Hydra killed Tony's parents, but he didn't know Bucky did it, we've been over this.
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>>82381947
Iron man.

>>82381963
Iron man doubly so. No one stance was entirely perfect (Ross proving that external agendas hinder them, and Zemo/Leipzig proving that they need oversight) but Cap came off a bit too stubborn when Tony was trying to find (and willing to negotiate) the middle ground.
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>>82388383
I'm not seeing it. Someone please explain?
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>>82388435
Even he didn't catch that in the Zola scene, Cap definitely had some idea that Bucky would be the hydra hitman.
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>>82388281
>at what cost
Her smile.
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>>82388084
Fucking perfect. Bucky and Sam's interaction in the movie was tops.
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>>82388591
I want this to end
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>>82388633
>Why didn't you do that sooner?
>...I hate you
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>>82388591
It's OK, Simon Williams will come and fix everything
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>>82388670
>Can you move your seat forward?
>No.
kek
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>Infinity war part 1
>Cap Kicks the bucket
>we need someone to boost our morale!
>T'challa, i know someone that may fill his shoes
>Bucky in cap's suit
>AVENGER ASSEMBLE
>Cue credits

You know they're going for this route
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>>82388816
>Tony has an aneurysm because of the obvious nepotism in T'Challa nominating his white boyfriend
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>>82381947
Where was Agent Hill during all of this? I forgot what happened to her by the end of AoU. What team would she have been on?
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Shit was tough.
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>In BvS, a dead mom ends a fight
>In Civil War, a dead mom reignites a fight
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>>82388686
Ionic dicking when?
Damn it, Fillion is so lucky.
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>>82388993
>Tony's scared attempt to cover his face because he really thinks Cap will deCapitate him
:__:

>>82389014
>BvS' background villain was le witty memster with no motivation
>Civil War's background villain was a cold and methodical mastermind with clear and understandable motivations as well as a definable goal
POTTERY
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>>82389091
>Fillion gets to play Williams
FUG I FORGOT
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>>82388993
By the end of the movie Tony truly became a broken man.
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Before: caps because of the comic
After: iron man because he was right
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>>82388993
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You know,

This is an absolute normie thing to say but.. the movie's really making me like Wanda.

Before, I thought she was such a Sue. Particularly during the Busiek/Perez run where his author's boner for her was so obvious. Still, I kinda liked her then, but BENDIS had to commit character assassination.

Any diehard Wanda fans that are relieved she might finally get past all the Bendis crap when the comics try to mimic the movie?
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>Bucky hasn't had a single good day in the 70+ years since he banged Melia Antiqua
Feels bad man.
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>>82388993
What would you say Cap's strength level is?

Using old marvel ratings he could possibly lift 10 tons? 5? He really got an upgrade in the MCU.
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>>82381947
Team Cap

>>82381963
Still Team Cap, but gained understanding for Tony
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>>82389107
I was so hyped when I learned. Wonder Man is one of my favorite Avengers and Fillion is based.
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>>82389147
I feel like jumping to Civil War with this movie helped us bypass Disassembled entirely.
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>>82389125
>BTFO by pepper
>BTFO by his allies
>BTFO by his friends
>BTFO by the government
>Steve throws his dad's shield at the floor like no biggie
>Rhodey tell's him "i can get up alone it's fine"

it was truly glorious for me to see all the shit he got away with in past movies catch up to him.
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>>82388993
Thank god for BP.
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>>82389171
2-3 tons.

Helicopters aren't that much heavier than a car, and he was struggling.

He did seem to be able to keep it down with just his weight, which was weird.
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>>82389249
>post yfw "The living aren't done with you yet"
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>>82382766
>>82382789
He also probably remembered how she put those nightmares/visions in him in AoU

Wanda gives him the heebie jeebies
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>>82389316
Yeah, forgot about that.

>>82389249
He was probably one of the MCU's villains that is actally dangerous enough to keep alive, so BP may have made a mistake.
Of course, for the audience it means more Zemoe sooner or later, which is great.
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>>82383359
There is no justifying that. Cap's weakness is his past, and the last remnant of that is Bucky (he dropped everything like a hot potato when he got the text that Peggy died).

Cap was wrong with that but I understand. There is no working around what he did. He did it for his bro.
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>>82388993
>Tony on the floor
>Cap beating the shit of him
Just like what Bucky did to Cap in TWS' final fight.
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>>82389147
I wonder how angry Bendis must be that characters he dislikes and tried to ruin like the Scarlet Witch, Vision and Ant-Man are so prominent in the MCU and beloved by general audiences.
Seeing Jack of Hearts on the big screen would give him a heart attack.
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>>82389316
How can anyone be afraid of someone so pure?
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>>82389421
Because she buried him with cars by twitching her fingers a little.
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>>82389416
I was worried for a bit lang was going to get the Goliath treatment.
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>>82389249
Post yrw he returns after he forms his own team.
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Before: no one.
After: I do not know. Steve appears to me a little too stubborn and Tony should provide that with Ross the thing will not end well.
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>>82389416
I wonder how many of the writers who hated the Wanda/Vision ship are having aneurysms right now?

They have to deal with the fact that the nerd audience is cool with robosexuality I guess.
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>>82381947
Poor Vision, dropped his spaghetti in front of his qt waifu.
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>Go into movie expecting to laugh at Iron Manlet's misfortune
>Leave feeling like poop for wanting that

I don't think I could handle RDJ Stark Demon In the Bottle played straight.
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>>82389416
I wonder how the Russos and Whedon feel about each other.

>>82389459
He still had his movie on the pipeline. He was one of the safe ones. I was kind of fearing Wanda would get the QS treatment or just be sidelined early. They went and made her a fucking powerhouse. Based Russos.

>>82389493
They made up by the end, though. I'm sure he visited her a bunch of times. Just to talk.
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>>82389486
John Byrne is always angry about something, so this will barely affect him
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>>82388927
I think Bucky probably goes by his official title as the King of Wakanda's White SLUT
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>>82389437
He deserved it for propagating the fear of her by house arresting her without even telling her.
On a related note, why did no-one point out that her involvement likely saved more lives that ending it? Yeah I get that it was Wakandans which is why it was political but 17 casualties versus at least 3 times as much in the shanty town.
Wanda didn't deserve to be bullied like this.
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>>82389249
>you will never hug Zemoe and prevent him from killing himself
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>>82384396
Death Note was just really big back then, mang. It was all sorts of ridiculousness, with its potato chip eating and keikaku-ing.
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>>82389552
He can head T'Challa's Hatut Zeraze, if you know what i mean.
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>>82389249
>Zemo later escapes from prison, forms the Masters of Evil and kills a bunch of people
BRAVO T'CHALLA
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>>82389582
>you will never find out it was just another ruse and his plan was for you to hug him all along
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>>82388993
He kicked Bucky in the face with his metal boot, though. That must have hurt like hell.
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>>82389530
At the end the feeling i got was team suffering vs team deadinside.
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What happened to the slut?
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>>82389542
>Vision phases right into her cell and everything
>she doesn't even react
>never even looks at him
>continues to hold her emotionless, soulless stare
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>>82389596
So is the animal motif they're going with for Bucky going to be more like a wolf or a cat? Sebastian Stan is apparently a wolffag and they're associated with winter and being fierce predators. But most viewers seem to think Bucky's more of a cat considering all the fanart of him as one.
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>>82389542
Well, Whedon said he felt like a failure after making AoU despite the fact it was a box office success and a modest critical success. The Russos are having fun making their movies and both of them seem glad to be where they are, Whedon probably wouldn't get along with them.
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>>82389648
I think she'd smile at him, because she attacked him, he didn't attack her. He did bar her door, which is LITERALLY RAPE, but he's a young dude and doesn't know better.
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>>82384715
SEA here. Watched it on Wednesday afternoon, and theaters were packed from early afternoon until night time. I made a mistake of watching it late afternoon and I wanted to go that morning. I almost didn't take a good seat. Theater didn't also have a super big promo cardboard thingy for it (it was kind of medium sized and a bit lackluster). X-Men has something bigger.
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>>82389637
He went back to cryogenic sleep in Wakanda;)
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Reminder that Vision going through Giant Man is LITERALLY rape.
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>>82389612
Don't worry anon, I'm sure that gallant new hero Citizen V will hunt down that dastardly crook.
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>>82389718
dohohohoho
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>>82389739
I wish. Citizen V was baller as fuck.
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>>82389637
You tell me
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>>82381947
Team Cap

>>82381963
Iron Man's motivations were better than I expected but still thought Cap was in the right.
>>
Was Civil War an objectively good movie?
I've seen many people shit on it for the same reasons that other movie got shat on.
So, tell me, /co/, why did you like this movie as opposed to the other one?
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>>82389596
Bucky's had a hard life man the only job he should have now is lying around naked and eating grapes and blowjobs :3
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>>82386571
Don't remind me of QuickSlav, anon.

>tfw they shot a revival scene of him should they opt to revive him
>no news of this at all
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>>82389680
Asians draw Bucky as a cat to contrast Steve's golden retriever personality and because cats are seen as the sexy, slutty animal
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>>82389421
Because if she wanted she could do with certain parts of your body what she did to these cubes?
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>>82389854
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>>82389915
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>>82389846
Because Whedon can't write dialogue properly and he wasted one of the best villains in Marvel, not to mention wasting Quicksilver.
Seriously, Vision and Wanda are the only good things that came out of it, and fortunately they are in much better hands now.
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>>82389900
>implying I don't want that

>>82389887
you fuckin wat is there sources here? Don't get my hopes up anon
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>tfw almost everyone in this movie is suffering
I just want to end their pain /co/.
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>>82381947
Before Watch it: Iron Man
After Watch it: Iron Man, Cap is a fucking pansy that screw all
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>>82386571
>tfw no quickslav by russos
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>>82388084
>tfw no Sam, Cap, Bucky roadtrip
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>>82382005
oh Anon you gonna be so dasapointed.... i hope you like bondage at least
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>>82389983
R E A L I T Y G E M
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>>82388184
>>Sam looking proud like a succesful wingman
>Carlos pls.
Laughed like a madman
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>>82389846
The characters are just handled a lot better. No inappropriate quips. When things are serious they are serious, when the humor is there, it works. RDJ was giving it his best, whereas in AOU he was clearly halfassing it.

The movie makes you think it's going to do the same old 'opposing heroes make friends to fight the real bad guy!' final act (like a certain OTHER movie just did) but it takes a sudden dark turn which leads up to a satisfying and personal fight between Cap and Iron Man instead.
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>>82389940
>Whedon can't write dialogue properly

What happened to him? I don't care for Firefly but Buffy was fun to watch.
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>>82383250
Poor Rhodes he's going to be sit a long time
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>>82390034
>>82389940
Not the other movie I meant, but I'll take it.
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>>82381947
Team Cap

>>82381963
Team Iron Man
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>>82390050
But to comics, I guess.
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>>82383484
And Zemo shows to Tony , there Civil WAr
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>>82390050

Rewatch Buffy when you get the chance. It does not hold up well at all.
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>>82381947
Team Cap.

>>82381963
Team no one, I just want to protect everybody's smile.
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>>82388344
>Sebastian Stan said in an interview Steve is the only reason Bucky didn't an superhero himself
Haven't seen that interview, but that's my exact thought while watching the movie. Steve's faith in him is probably the only reason he hasn't hated himself to death.
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>>82389680
Have you ever seen Sebastian Stan's mouth?
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I wish Ant-Man and Hawkeye got a little more screen time.
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>>82390117
Here's something to cheer you up. http://quas-quas.deviantart.com/gallery/58585197/Diamond-Frames
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>>82390117
Well good job, now everyone's smile is like this.
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>>82389846
>>82390057

11 out of the 12 main characters get developed/introduced:
Cap
Falcon (between movies, though)
Wanda
Hawkeye (between movies)
Bucky (between movies)
Tony
War Machine (between movies)
Black Widow
Vision
Black Panther (new)
Spidey (new)

Out of those Cap, Wanda, Vision, Tony, Widow and Black Panther have distinct arcs. Zemo also does.

It rarely feels rushed, and there's literally 0 fat. There's no throwaway scenes like the quadriplegic paint-spraying the statue, or the main guy walking down the court halls.

The fight is satisfying and escalates from a scuffle to a real fight with people getting hurt (emotionally) at each other. The scale is appropriate and not overly dramatic, the dramatic punches all land and even spoiled there were quite a few unexpected performances/scenes.

Simple fucking shit like T'Challa calling T'Chakka "baba" and Spidey being worried about money. Literally every action/punch/dialogue line serves the plot, the character or both. There are no schyzofrrenic characters despite them taking unexpected decisions (like Tony going pro-government) that make sense within the story and the characters.

At some point they are kind of quipping and having fun, but something happens and it suddenly becomes a lot more heavy, and the general conflict shrinks to a personal one. and the tone of the movie shifts dramatically.

It's very very good, even as a movie. It does benefit for having stuff set up and setting up other things, but it never feels like it's doing it just to promote the next movies, and Spidey/ANTS/Panther all feel needed to the story, regardless of their movies to SOME degree.

It's pretty fucking amazing how they manage to meet the expectations for people wanting Cap3, Avengers 2(proper this time), Iron Man 4, Spidey 0.5 and Panther 0.5.

CGI is a bit shitty in 2 or 3 shots, but it's hard to come up with other criticisms, honestly.
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>>82381947
>>82381963

Team Cap forever and always
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>>82383484
He doesn't find it out, he just assumed it was the case and acted accordingly. If he didn't think Bucky had been the guy at the scene, he would without a doubt had told Tony everything he knew years ago.
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>>82389530
The smug faded as my hateboner for Tony did.
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>>82390107
Really? It used to be the biggest thing on tv. Can it really have fallen that far?
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>>82389206
Wait, is Wonderman coming to the MCU?
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>>82389530
>that picture
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>>82390263
Yes, In Guardians of the Memexy.
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>>82390263
There;s a modern day-ish Earth scene in Guardians 2, the set was for a "Simon Williams Film Festival". Movies included were a Tony Stark biopic, Archon reference Conan movie and a rom-com with Fillion's face on it and the lead being Simon Williams.
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>>82390263
Yes
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>>82389632
>team suffering vs team deadinside.
This is a good tagline

>>82389680
>But most viewers seem to think Bucky's more of a cat considering all the fanart of him as one.
In that press interview thing they did in Asia (China, HK, or Sing, not sure), there was a question whether Stan, Evans, Mackie were dog or cat persons, and both Mackie and Evans chose dog (suits their personality), and Stan chose cat.
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>no one accomplished anything
>everyone ended up being dead inside
Why.
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>>82390328
/tv/ pls
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Honestly, they both had their merits.

Cap was totally right that they shouldn't be the strike force of the UN, seeing how HYDRA infiltrated SHIELD for decades. And remember Iron Man 3's corruption where we saw the Vice-President of the USA get involved with AIM? Yeah, the MCU Earth is not a place to fully trust governmental officials.

On the other hand, Tony was right that there needed to be checks and balances for superhumans like the Avengers. They earned a lot of good will in NYC, but that sorta got pissed away because of Sokovia. MCU civilians are more reasonable than 616 civvies, but they can easily turn on the Avengers if they feel threatened ala JL Unlimited's Cadmus Arc.

Though I find it fucking hypocritical of Tony Stark of all people to condemn Bucky who was brainwashed against his own will to become an inhuman killing machine; seeing how Tony profited off of arms manufacturing for years and unleashed (albeit accidentally) a dangerous A.I. on the world. You'd think Tony would realize that Bucky was a man of flesh and blood who had no choice. Bucky was treated like a programmed drone; so the fault lies in HYDRA for the death of Tony's parents. Zemo was ass-pained that his family got killed in Sokovia thanks to Ultron which was indirectly created by Tony and Banner. Should Sokovians have justification in killing Tony for Ultron did? Even T'Challa realized how Zemo strung him along as a puppet after realizing the truth; Tony didn't.

However, Cap's actions were reckless and caused irrevocable division amongst the ranks of the superhero community. I agree that he wanted to save Bucky since his friend was not at fault technically since he was an unwillingly assassin. His single-minded drive to protect Bucky not only fractured the Avengers, but it gave a serious black eye to the public face of superheroes. How can the MCU public trust in their metahuman protectors when they squabble like this?
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>>82389846
It's more gray-ish than usual. I got out feeling sorry for both sides.
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>>82390263
>>82390328
>>82390333
>>82390338

He's probably just a cameo as an actor in-universe, like Gunn always does:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl-oU0_PKAY
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>>82390351
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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>>82381947
cap. never liked the registrations shit
>>82381963
would like to be on spidey's side desu, the final act of the movie made me feel really sympathic about ironman, he just went throgh a lot of shit
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>>82382251
> Vision was treating her like a possession, with no consideration at all for her free will. Real friends don't try to control you and do it behind your back.
Vision values life but not the things that make it worthwhile.
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>>82390425
Steve, I'm already a demon...
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>>82390350
>there was a question whether Stan, Evans, Mackie were dog or cat persons, and both Mackie and Evans chose dog (suits their personality), and Stan chose cat
That's adorable.
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>>82389957
>you fuckin wat is there sources here? Don't get my hopes up anon
To be honest with you, I got it from AoU threads here, though there were links provided in the posts. Whedon is known to shoot a lot of scenes that get cut. QuickSlav's scene in that SKor doctor's healing machine thingy was shot, if the MCU decides to revive him or something. No news about bringing him back at all, so I guess he stays dead for good.
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>>82389530
>>82389632
>>82390247
>>82390306
It's funny how this movie made something we believed impossible: It made /co/ stop hating Tony.
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>>82382251
I think stark just convinced him with unbased logic, and he thought he was doing the right thing because it meant looking after Wanda.

He thought he was being a gentleman, and he's a bit gullible/naive for being so young/new to humans.
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>>82390419
To be honest, I hope not. I'd love a full-fleshed Wonder Man. But if it is just that, at least he's in the universe and ready for picking up, and is played by Based Fillion

>>82390491
>trusting 4chan
I'd love to hope too anon.
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>>82390351
Cap did save Bucky and Ross got Team Cap in prison.

>>82390354
Sorry. I meant MayMays of the Galaxy.
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So Cap 2's main theme was trust, this one's main theme is revenge, right?
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>>82390540
/tv/ pls go
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>>82390539
Fillion is too old and fat to play any heroes. Maybe a villain some day.
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>>82390459
You know, I'm concerned about the long-term ramifications of how Vision's been treated. At some point, if he's given enough shit or finds disgust in humanity, he'll turn his back on the Earth. He won't go full rogue like Ultron, but detached like how J'onn in Justice League Unlimited.
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They'll reconcile again, right?
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>>82389797
>dat Sam
>when the Redwing hits that Spidey just right.jpg
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>>82390581
It's a shame the Silver Centurion armor was only used for 3 minutes in IM3.

Also, what was the one in CW supposed to be?
Bleeding Edge?
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>>82390350
I dunno, I've been seeing tons of cat Bucky fanart since The Winter Soldier first came out. It's gotten to the point I have a dedicated folder for that stuff.
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>>82390581
I wish we could see the Armor Wars in an Iron Man film, which would be Tony's version of a Civil War conflict. His armor tech is released on the black market and to rogue governments so he's obsessed in reclaiming and destabilizing any traces of it. Even going so far as violate international jurisdiction and law which would put him at odds with Cap and other heroes who see Tony going zealous.
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>>82390581
Yes, in Infinity War, just before Cap shouts Avengers Assamble.

After watching CW I'm pretty fucking hyped for that movie.
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>>82390624
Visually bleeding edge, but it's just the same as Mk6 in terms of deployment. It is more flexible after that and the helmet folds away completely.

He does have a bleeding-edge-lite glove, though.
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>>82390663
>Armor Wars
According to some interviews and shit I watched before and after IM2 came out, IM2 was in part Armor Wars.
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God,

Can you imagined how confused normies would be if they never watched Cap 2?
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>>82390704
A very piss-poor one at that. The only thing that sorta resembles Armor Wars was how Vanko could recreate the mini-Arc Reactor independently and how he created an army of droids. Now if Whiplash took the stolen Mark-2 and mass-produced it for Hammer Industries or to HYDRA, then there's an argument.
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>>82390794
I wonder how many of the people interested in Civil War didn't and are just watching it for Iron Man and Spidey
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>>82382914
I feel you, anon
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>>82389421
She is "Feared before all others".

To me she should be "Cuddled before all Others."
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>>82390794
I think they explain Bucky well enough
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>>82390539
>>trusting 4chan
>I'd love to hope too anon.
Eh I googled it
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/joss-whedon-reveals-avengers-2-alternate-ending-deleted-scenes

If that's not enough, maybe there are others,
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>>82389316
Same reason he will hate Strange; Stark is scared of magic.
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>>82390840
And to me "fucked by all others while in a straightjacket in prison"
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>>82390658
Yeah I guess it's his mouth and demeanor. Just saying that an interview supports the fangirls'/fanartists' vision of him as a cat, since Seb personally thinks he's suited as a cat.
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>>82390821
You think that's bad? Imagine anyone who missed Age of Ultron.
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>>82390840
I want to cuddle Scarlett Witch!

>>82390859
Nah I'll take that actually. I don't know whether I should be happy or not that we didn't see or hear about this at all from AoU till now.
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>>82390840
This, she literally did nothing wrong.
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>>82383733
>Iron Man 1: Learns that his company has been arming middle-eastern terrorists. Countless innocent people have died because of his weapons. Dismantles his weapons division and becomes a superhero in order to make amends. Kind of works for a while.
>Iron Man 2: Is dying and is trying to make preparations for that, only he goes about it in the worst way possible because he is cripplingly incapable of talking about his problems.
>Iron Man 3: Is the one responsible for Killian turning out the way he did.
>Age of Ultron 2: Saw a vision of the future and it terrified him so much that he created Ultron. Now, while he didn't actually intend for things to go the way they did, his tampering with things beyond his understanding ultimately resulted in a shitload of catastrophe.
>Civil War: Is so desperate to make amends but has come to the conclusion that he can't be allowed to make those judgment calls anymore that he forfeits everything over to the government. Spends the whole time trying to protect the team, but ultimately, it was all a ruse by Zemo, he's lost almost all his allies, his best buddy's paralyzed from the waist down and he knows how his parents died but can never gety any closure on it due to the circumstances.

He just wants to make up for his mistakes, but every time he tries, he only makes bigger ones.
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>>82390684
After MarkIII, this is the only MCU Tony armor I like. It's pretty cool.

The IM3 Silver Centurion was not much.
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>>82390921
>Nah I'll take that actually. I don't know whether I should be happy or not that we didn't see or hear about this at all from AoU till now.
I guess they didn't want to make a big deal out of it since execs approved of his death, so no reason Whedon or the marketing team will tease a revival of some sort.

It's still a shitty death.
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>>82389680
I like it. I think it's cute
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>>82390946
Tony needs a therapist. A real one, not a sleeping Banner.
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>>82390920
What if they missed AoU, Ant-Man and TWS?

>suddenly a telekinetic chick, a red robot, some dude with a metal arm, a flying bird guy, dude who turns small and a panther cat king
>w-where are Hulk and Thor?
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>>82390946
this makes me so sad, they really created a tragic hero
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>>82390946
This

MCU Tony Stark caused more problems than he's solved.
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>>82390955
I really liked mk42 as a change. Not as a permanent armor, but for experimenting it looked good. It also had the best VFX because it had the dedicated budget to it, and didn't need to share it with fluid FX or shrinking FX.

That mate finish was sexy as fuck.

But yeah, this one was the best designed, even if the CGI was a bit iffy.
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>>82388667
> Everyone afraid of her
> Meets Scott
> He's not scared of her and is friendly

People say about Giantman but this is one of Scott's heroic moments IMHO and he does not even realize it.
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>>82386817
I forgot how pretty Emily VanCamp is.
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>>82391071
>it's one of the only times she legitimately smiles >>82388591
>he protected her smile
IT'S SCOTT
HE'S THE KEY
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>>82391043
Oh boy imagine the people whose first MCU movie will be Infinity War.
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>>82391071
>>82391124
>I know you too, you're great
ANTS will bring her happiness
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>>82391046
Yeah, Civil War feels a lot like a Greek tragedy in that regard. Cap and Tony, flawed men suffering from hubris, and finally brought down by hamartia. Bucky being whatever you call the plot device Helen of Troy was.
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>>82391043
No joke I heard someone say "Who's that" when Scott came out the van

They then said "What the fuck" in a really dismissive manner, when he was small AND big
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>>82391071
>>82391124
Scott is also the reason why Falcon got a new pair of wings.
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>>82382203
You do realize that Scott's Giant-Man form was meant as a delaying action so that he could buy Steve and Bucky time? If he was truly serious like that time against Yellowjacket, he could've seriously fucked-up Tony and Rhodey. Everyone was pulling their punches in the fight because they didn't want to seriously harm or kill each other.
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>>82391183
You should've called his waifu shit for being plebs.
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>>82390507
I really want the Russos to direct a fourth Iron Man film as a quasi-follow-up to this.

Iron Man: Civil War.

You know you want this, /co/
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>>82391191
Except for T'Challa against Bucky.
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>>82391071
I don't think people are afraid until they see and acknowledge her powers. It's not a pheromone thing.

He was pretty fanboyish and happy go lucky, but that's MCU Scott for you.

>>82391180
It was interesting to see Steve lie for the first time. When Tony asked him if he had known he was embarrassed he had been inconsidered and denied it, only to confirm upon insistence.

So far he had lied 0 times, and only omitted information from Pierce.
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>>82391184
I like the fact that both Sam and Scott learned a lot from their fight in Ant-Man. Sam was very crafty with Redwing and his flight pack in Civil War. Probably as a response to how he underestimated Scott.

Scott wouldn't have defeated Cross if it weren't that test battle with Falcon at the Avengers compound. And he used his combat experience to great effect in the airport scene.
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>>82391166
>>82391184
>Scott bring happiness to Wanda
>Scott challenges Falcon leading to him getting an upgrade
>Scott heroically tries a completely dangerous and barely tested technique just as a distraction
why is Scott so perfect?
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>>82391233
Nah, it would be better Iron Man 4 following the aftermath of CW.
Plus RDJ said after CW he would be up to doing another Iron Man movie.
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>>82391183
Ant Man wasn't seen by a lot compared to the other MCU flicks. Which is why they made Ant Man awesome in this, so normies will go see his solo movie.
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>>82391183
Don;t worry, they'll be the same people saying how cool he was when they hear everyone's praising Ant-Man
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>>82391233
Yeah, I'd be all up for an IM4 by the Russos.
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>>82386817
Damn Sebastian Stan's head is fucking huge.
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>>82391236
Well obviously he's the lone exception. I did appreciate how everyone was given a chance to shine with their unique abilities in the airport brawl. Scott was definitely the MVP with Wanda as a close 2nd. Peter put a good effort, but inexperienced. I loved his whole exchange with Steve.
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>>82391071
Scott was willing to rip himself in half just for the chance of letting Cap and Bucky escape, not even "win"

The world does not deserve Scott
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>>82391257
One word: ANTS
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>>82391233
The Russos would be too busy with IW.
But seeing that Favreau is back in the MCU to produce IW, i'd be up to seeing a sequel directed by him considering the ones who caused the executive meddling of IM2 are no more.
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>>82391280
We don't want to burn them out. Let Markus and McFeely contribute to more scripts though. Also let Peyton Reed work on whatever scripts incorporate Ant-Man in them.
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>>82381947
Team Iron Man, before and after.
I guess I'm simply not into Bucky that much. It seemed egotistical of Cap to put it all on the line for him, even if he turned out to be innocent of that particular slaughter. [/spoilers] Even if he doesn't remember committing all these assassinations, I think handwaving them is not enough and I felt for Tony when he found out about his parents' murder. Hell even Bucky fucking realizes he's too dangerous and goes back to sleep in the end.
Also, I thought the proposition to regulate superheroes wasn't entirely unreasonable.
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>>82391280
Chris Evan said he'd like to be in IM4 to repay to debt of RDJ appearing in Civil War.

But truth be told, I would fucking love a IM and Cap team up movie.
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>>82391322
Wasn't Feige himself responsible for a lot of lthe problems with that one though?
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>>82391257
>"yeah, what else is new"
>that sad look in his eyes
Scott's been trying to go straight after getting out of prison, but he keeps getting pulled back doing illegal shit. I mean, he's genuinely talented at it and he probably knows that, but I wonder how he feels about it.
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>>82391056
Inadvertently, anyway. To be fair, no one could have predicted what could have happened with Ultron. Both Tony and Banner believed that a properly functioning prototype was years away. How could anyone have known that it would complete itself in half a night and be made up entirely of all the worst parts of Tony taken to their logical extremes?

And hell, the registration thing wasn't even his idea. The government decided that enough was enough already and tried to reign all superhero activity in. The only real issue is that A) it was all a plot by Zemo (which no one could have realized) and B) they assigned fucking ROSS to the project. Motherfucking ROSS. Why the fuck is that idiot still in the military? He's responsible for so many fuckups that he should have been dishonorably discharged years ago. In any case, to Tony, it probably sounded like a good idea. And let's be reasonable here, ordinarily, this is the logical and correct choice. The Avengers try to do good, but they don't always make the best decisions. Sometimes, they fuck up. And realistically, would you give a group of the most powerful people on the planet, a group with the goddamn Hulk in it, not to mention a chaos witch who barely understands her own powers, free reign to do whatever the fuck they wanted?

If it weren't for Zemo and goddamn Ross, it would have been the right thing to do.
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Does anybody else want to see more bromantic team-up movies? Thor and Hulk are gonna be Super Smash Bros in Thor: Ragnorak, I would kill see a Hawkeye + Ant-Man film. They're both dads and seem to work well together.
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>>82391298
I really fucking liked Wanda making it rain cars on Tony.

>>82391191
Also, Scott was just one dude and had the handicap of 0 ANTS. He was pretty awesome.

In retrospect, I wanted him to shrink and run back to his family after the fight, and at the end when Cap shows up at the Raft, a giant hand rips the roof away. That would've been neat.
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>>82391353
It was the Marvel Creative Commitee, they wanted the movie to basically be a 2 hour long Avengers trailer, while RDJ and Favreau wanted to make a movie more similar to Demon in a Bottle, and in fact it kind of bled into the final IM2 movie with the paladium poisoning according to what Favreau said.
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>>82391387
I liked that. Small lines like that go a long way towards characterization and justifying the characters' actions. It was something I liked in the previous two movies too.
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>>82391328
>Also, I thought the proposition to regulate superheroes wasn't entirely unreasonable.
So did Cap, until he saw the trouble starting even before he signed it, by house arresting Wanda.

Also, Ross was in charge of it all so something would definitely not go well sooner rather than later.

Cap's loss of Peggy early on makes him take more emotional decisions much like Tony's discovery does at the end. Loss is tough for everyone.
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>>82391322
>be up to seeing a sequel directed by him considering the ones who caused the executive meddling of IM2 are no more.

But Iron-man1 was an incredible disaster from a directional point of view. No one expected it to be a good movie. It was a lucky shot and I'm not sure it was thank of Favreau.
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>>82389147
Russos say she is on a growth arc, so hopefully she'll meet up with Strange and hopefully Agatha Harkness in the future.

Who would you cast as Agatha Harkness?
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>>82391387
>Scott risks any chance of seeing Cassie again in order to pay his debts to Falcon and follow someone he considers to be a true hero for a good cause
P E R F E C T
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>>82391466
T'Challa calling T'Chaka "Baba" was sweet as all hell. Does it mean anything in any African language?
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>>82391328
>It seemed egotistical of Cap to put it all on the line for him
In case you forgot, Bucky was like a brother to Steve. He was there when Steve lost his parents, even offered for him to stay with him for a while until Steve gets his bearings, was there when Steve got bullied, generally looked out for him and even pulled a date for him.

During the accords thing, Steve was kind of torn but he did say they'll talk about it, but once he got the text about Peggy's death, he drops everything and goes straight away.

His past has always mattered to him so much more (AoU nightmare scene). And he probably felt that, now that his past life is slipping away from him (Peggy being dead, Bucky probably gonna get shot), he had his moment of clarity to drop everything for the greater good and do something for himself this time.
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>>82391395
>To be fair, no one could have predicted what could have happened with Ultron. Both Tony and Banner believed that a properly functioning prototype was years away. How could anyone have known that it would complete itself in half a night and be made up entirely of all the worst parts of Tony taken to their logical extremes?
They should've taken the precaution to develop countermeasures. Especially when Tony was tinkering with the Mind Gem from Loki's scepter and utilized its neurons for the coding sequence. Even Banner knew this was dangerous and he bowed too quickly for Tony. They were playing with unknown variables and it blew the fuck up in their faces. No surprise there.

As for registration, Tony realizing what a fuck-up he's been by creating soulless weapons and drones against humans so he jumps on the Sokovia Accords...only to completely overlook that Bucky was made into a soulless drone by HYDRA against his parents. Tony was a complete hypocrite. I'm not saying he should forgive what happened, but Bucky was programmed into becoming a killing machine; no different from someone creating a weapon. Even T'Challa knew Bucky was an innocent, but Tony has a fuckload of personal issues that manifested in destructive tendencies like his drinking, everything in IM2/IM3, and the Iron Legion/Ultron.
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>>82391424
>I really fucking liked Wanda making it rain cars on Tony.

The second I saw that I knew the entire fight scene would be awesome
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>>82381947
It's strange because I knew that I'd probably think Cap was more in the right the whole time, but Tony is a much more interesting and sympathetic character to me. Plus it annoys me that Cap is portrayed as right most of the time. So Team Cap in belief system, but Team Iron Man as a character by the end. But I'm relieved that they gave Cap more flaws and irrationality in his position in this movie.
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>>82391400
The idea of team-up movies gets me rock fucking hard.

Spidey and Tony
Thor and Hulk
Clint and Scott
Cap, Sam, and Wanda
T'Challa and Bucky
Guardians and Captain Marvel
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>>82391424
I wish we saw Hank and Hope's reaction to Civil War. A Douglas cameo would've been great.

I feel that Hank might have tangled with Winter Soldier, seeing how HYDRA used him on-and-off in the Cold War. Wish we could've had a mention of that or something.
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>>82383491
Everyone might tell themselves they'd handle it better, but almost everyone would go apeshit if it was tacked on with even 1/4 of the shit Tony's been through. It was a culmination of recent stress and decades of pain.
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>>82391489
>Also, Ross was in charge

Someone explains how this asshole has come so high? because in Hulk he's himself responsible for several messes
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>>82389384
POTTERY!
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>>82391539
Tony didn't actually want to kill Bucky at first. Just take him in. But then he learned what happened and after everything that happened, he just stopped caring. Anyone would have done the same in his situation. Everything he tries goes south, the love of his life left him, he's been trying to protect everyone but failed, his best friend's a paraplegic now and to top it all off, he just saw the very gruesome deaths of his parents by the man that the great and perfect Captain America is protecting.

There are limits, man. Tony's not an emotionless perfectly logical robot. Was it the wrong call? Sure. But I think expecting him to calmly and rationally assess the situation in the lowest point of his life immediately after seeing his dad's skull crushed and his mom strangled to death is pretty hypocritical too. Unless you can claim that you'd be able to keep calm in that same situation yourself.
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>>82391489
So what was Ross and the Accords supposed to do with Thor and Banner if they were around? Thor is Prince of Asgard and I highly doubt they want to start a war with him.

>Cap's loss of Peggy early on makes him take more emotional decisions much like Tony's discovery does at the end. Loss is tough for everyone.
So much this. Steve and Tony let their emotions get the better of them and this is why Civil War blew the fuck up the way Zemo wanted. I wish Coulson and his team would've been around to try and calm down both factions.
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Interesting how the death of loved ones triggers each of the four main parties on the movie to act:

>Peggy dying makes Cap act selfish for once
>T'Chakka dying makes Panther lose his cool for once (assuming he is the calm and reserved guy from the comics)
>Maria dying makes Tony act emotionally for once
>Zema dying makes Zemo fuck everything up.

Someone better than me can probably try to extract the underlying message.

>>82391640
He was the one to have the idea to drop Hulk in time to stop Abomination. He was a HERO! as far as his superiors were concerned.
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>>82391489
>So did Cap, until he saw the trouble starting even before he signed it, by house arresting Wanda.

Kinda agree, but he started leaning more on saying no after he got the text of Peggy's death, then the bombing and shoot order for Bucky. He has no one from his past now, save Bucky, and he was feeling like "goddamn i'm gonna be a lapdog for some government again, fuck this i'm gonna save my bro"
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>>82388435
He knew. Even if it wasn't 100% confirmed, he knew. That's why he didn't say anything. I thought that was made pretty clear.
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>>82391539
>ony was a complete hypocrite. I'm not saying he should forgive what happened, but Bucky was programmed into becoming a killing machine;

Rationally, Tony will come to forgive Bucky, but at that time he was stressed and the scene is terrifying. You can not really blame him for going full apeshit in that fucking moment.
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>>82389613
is it me or he looks like a younger version of Jeremy Irons?
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>>82383859
"To Them, I am The Other."
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>>82391524
Apparently it is in Luo, Shona, Arabic, and Swahili. Based on the Priest comics Wakanda is ambiguously on the eastern side of Africa so it fits.
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>>82391739
Swahili makes the most sense, I guess.

It's incredibly touching, especially with the dude being 40 (although I guess he's meant to be around 30).
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>>82391715
Maybe? He's kinda too soft and round looking in my opinion.
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>>82391557
Same here. My brain is Team Cap but my heart is Team Tony. Fucking hell can he just win for once?
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>>82391692
Uncle Ben dying turned Peter into a superhero, although the film doesn't really show that. But we all know his backstory, so yeah.
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>>82391653
>There are limits, man. Tony's not an emotionless perfectly logical robot.
And that's what I was highlighting about the whole irony of Bucky's situation as Winter Soldier and Tony's life as a weapons manufacturer and what happened ever since becoming Iron Man.

He, himself, was slowly descending into becoming the very thing he was building; an inhuman machine whose sole purpose is to destroy during IM3 and AOU. The fact that he did not see what Bucky was turned into and completely ignore the real enemy of Zemo is the definitive flaw of MCU Tony Stark. Whether or not he can correct this will be determined in Infinity War.

>But I think expecting him to calmly and rationally assess the situation in the lowest point of his life immediately after seeing his dad's skull crushed and his mom strangled to death is pretty hypocritical too. Unless you can claim that you'd be able to keep calm in that same situation yourself.
Steve was a dick for not telling Tony the truth. So yeah, I can understand Tony lashing out in rage, but I'd knock Bucky out and then apprehend Zemo. First things first because that's what Zemo wanted all along from me.

Look what happened to Clint and Selvig in the 1st Avengers film. Is it their fault they were mind-controlled by Loki? The same applies to Bucky, but Tony as well as Steve couldn't trust in one another enough to settle the conflict without all the collateral damage they caused.

Civil War was a good story that balanced out Tony and Steve. It was a very human narrative that showed how fallible even the Avengers could become and what they did with their powers unchecked.
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>>82391768
Could be, or it could be Hausa. There was a bit early in the comics where Ross was taken by surprise because T'Challa was speaking to his guards in Hausa which is related to Arabic rather than Swahili like he expected.
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>>82391739
In Arabic at least 'baba' is like using Daddy, it's pretty affectionate and usually only done by kids or if you want something
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>>82391788
They did imply it in a great way.

They actually managed to pull of a subtle "with great power comes great responsibility".
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>>82381947
Zemo did nothing wrong. Except being too cute
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>>82391019
Oh he'll get one. Dr Jack Daniels.
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>>82391841
The difference is that Clint didn't strangle Tony's mom to death. Seriously, tell me that you can watch an image of a man in the same room as you crushing your dad's skull and strangling your mom to death and tell me you can keep yourself from looking for a knife or something in a fit of blind rage.
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>>82381947
Before: Team Iron Man
After: Team Iron Man

I just think Tony's motives for the accords makes sense, as do the accords themselves, plus Bucky regardless of brainwashing needs to answer for crimes he committed. Through a spanner in the work though when Zemo framed Buck but I suppose that's exactly what was intended.
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>>82381947
Ross almost had me convinced until he dropped the "only intervene if the UN gives you the thumbs up".
Cap might've been dumb as fuck at certain points but that alone still puts the ball in his court.
>Mr Bakakantdeteiz, Niganda is committing some heinous human rights violations if what the Captain says is true. Your vetoing vote is the only thing stopping your country's name from being cleared, are you sure you won't reconsider?
>nah nah massa no vialashans is just motion blur
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>>82391850
Oh no don't give the T'Chaka/T'Challa shippers any ideas.
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>>82391692
Personal loss clouds one's judgment if they let it get to them. You can either use it to move forward or let it hinder you in ways that you'll regret.

All 4 of their characters lashed out as a result of their loss, but out of them, T'Challa was the one who had the healthiest recovery time. He saw what Zemo had become in his pursuit of revenge and realized Bucky was a pawn of evil men. Not even allowing Zemo to commit suicide was T'Challa realizing how fucked-up this whole pursuit of revenge was turning everyone into. And I'd argue because of this, T'Challa was the one with the least baggage out of the 4.

Steve is a man out of his time, lost the love of his life, his best friend is being hunted down for crimes that he was forced to do, and the government denying civil rights to Wanda caused him to be self-absorbed with Bucky's rescue.

Tony had a shitloads of issues. He's by far the most tragic though Banner is up there too. All his past actions caused a lot of death and damage that he wants to make-up for it. Or his personal issues with his parents, his playboy lifestyle catching up to his health, and all that prior alcoholism. He was a ticking time-bomb and frankly, he and Banner are seriously Class-A threats without proper treatment in the near future.

Zemo is a meta commentary on what happens when superhuman brawls cause the collateral damage ala like what Nitro did in the comics to spark Civil War. The absolute helplessness in the face of superbeings and wanting to infect that rage towards the Avengers makes this a far better storyline than the ham-fisted crap we got in the comics.
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>>82391891
Pls no.
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>>82391850
That's adorable. Poor T'Challa. I'm glad they reworked the T'Chaka origin story like this. I think it's more effective than him having been killed by Klaw when T'Challa was a kid.
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>>82391537
I get that, and I didn't hate Steve for it, but that's exactly what I found egotistical, putting aside everyone's concerns because of his personal feelings for Bucky. Because that wasn't the same Bucky anymore, let's face it, he was brainwashed and dangerous and he probably should be controlled in some way until people figure out how to de-program him. I wasn't in favor of throwing everyone in cells , but I thought some oversight was not a terrible idea at all.
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>>82392007
Personal loss can only move you forward if you have sufficient time to get over it.

If you JUST saw your mom and dad get brutally murdered, even if it's just recorded footage, you're probably not gonna be able to keep your cool.
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They even included the "no you move" quote. Noice.
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>People saying Bucky should be punished even though he was brainwashed

He didn't have a choice, he was forced to kill.
He's essentially a prisoner of war.
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>Captain America
>Iron Man
>Thor
>Hulk
>Black Widow
>Hawkeye
>Scarlet Witch
>Vision
>War Machine
>Spider-Man
>Falcon
>Winter Soldier
>Ant-Man
>Wasp
>Star-Lord
>Gamora
>Rocket
>Groot
>Drax
>Doctor Strange
>Black Panther
>Captain Marvel

Wew lad, I just realized how many heroes there are in the MCU already. Not to mention the Netflix ones too, secondary characters like Fury or Maria Hill and villains that didn't die. This universe is pretty damn big, Infinity War is gonna be massive.
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You know what I want? I want Zemo to escape, and then turn up in a post credits scene with a villain and ask them would they like to join the Master of Evil/Thunderbolts in a dark callback to the post credits of Iron Man 1.
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>>82391489
I thought Steve's reasons were understandable on an emotional level, yeah, but so were Tony's. And I thought putting Wanda under house arrest with cute Vision was pretty softball, considering. I like her but she did fuck up and they were right to fear her, honestly.
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>>82391783
There were some scenes in the movie that made me say "Daniel Bruhl reminds of Irons", but yeah, he doesn't have the same rugged look Irons has
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>>82391841
I don't know if I'd call Tony's development a descent into becoming an unfeeling weapon. I get what you're trying to say but that's pretty much the opposite of what happened. He became even more emotionally irrational at the end, not inhuman.

He was blind to the truth about Bucky because his emotional state blocked his rationality. He's not growing numb; he's cracking.
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>>82392080
Fingers crossed they somehow get the F4 rights back.
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So they made the Yellow Jacket suit actually look cool.

But can they somehow do the same for Zemo's ridiculous comics getup? Personally, I think they'll try, but in the end they'll just give up.
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>>82392080
Prepare for more, the Russos are juggling 67 characters for Infinity War.
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>>82392099
I genuinely got the feeling that Tony could've called her and ask her to stay put, but the fact that he fears her made him go the long idiot route instead.
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>>82391909
Oh I'd kick the shit out of Bucky. Even break a bone or two, but I'd stop myself from killing him. I'd go after his HYDRA controllers and bring them to justice afterwards. I got my licks in, but the real culprits are still out there. Plus I'd be reminded of what that Sokovian woman I met earlier said as well as why Zemo is doing all this. I have to realize that everything is becoming cyclical and something has to stop.

And while Clint didn't strangle Tony's mom, he DID unfortunately kill SHIELD operatives. Should their families go after Clint and his family what Loki did?

I'd want revenge too if someone asshole crushed my dad's skull and strangled my mom. But if I knew that he was mind-controlled to do it by some other asshole, I'd treat the guy like a gun or knife. He didn't have the will to do it. He was merely the vessel in which somebody else wanted to do it. Otherwise I'd be one to talk since my weapons and tech killed and maimed countless innocents for corporate interests and I can't feign ignorance or disavow.
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>>82392099
Yes, but a way of handling that would be saying
>''Hey Wanda, since you don't know how to control your superpowers, it'll be better that you don't go on missions until you are trained enough and you are sure you can control them.''
not just making her a prisoner in Avengers HQ.
It's not like she did it on purpose, or that she was going to go on a rampage.

It's even more pointless because with those powers, if she wanted to leave on her own, she could easily do so.
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>>82392093
That'd be dope.

My choice for that scene would be Norman as he's entering his office at Oscorp late at night.

As a callback to how Fury disabled Tony's security system, Zola comes over the speakers. Zola will be the Ultron we wish we had.
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>>82392079
True. But at some point you can't just let a person like that walk around, for his and everyone else's sake. They should have been trying to take him into custody to try and help him, not kill him. And Bucky chose to freeze himself because he realized he couldn't live like this and nobody was giving him an alternate choice besides death.
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>>82391783
He looks kinda like a sea mammal with the beard. It's cute.
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>>82392079
Not even. He was a lab rat. His entire humanity and soul was ripped away.
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>>82392140
This >>82389471 seems pretty feasible to do within the MCU. CGI the eye-sockets and brow so he can emote bettter through the mask and should be good to go.

Panther already did it and it looked fine.
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>>82392140
He might get the fur jacket, pimp sword, and maybe a purple undershirt or have to use a balaclava at some point.
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>>82390946
There's no way Stark isn't completely in shambles
>Father only ever talked about Cap, is generally very distant towards Tony
>After his parents pass away, he gets mentored by Obadiah, who eventually becomes a substitute father-figure. Obadiah proceeds to betray and attempt to murder Tony
>Later trying to capture a high profile assassin, but Cap won't let him. Eventually watch that same man beat your fathers face in.
>Cap proceeds to beat the shit out of you to defend this man
>>With the shield your father made for him

And lets not forget that little stunt where he had to personally nuke an alien civilization.
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>>82392160
>"My name is Norman Osborne and I approve of the Thunderbolts"

Yes I like this.
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>>82392145
how the fuck are they getting 67 characters? with that said I have faith in them
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>>82392026
Oh you know it. Tony at rock bottom and RDJ saying he's up for one last Iron Man? We might actually get a proper Demon in a Bottle adaptation.
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>>82392226
That quote was clarified. They meant they had 67 or however many on their character board to pick from.
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>>82392080

GotG 2 is going to add more heroes.

Russos also said IW will feature characters never before seen in the MCU
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Team Cap before and after. I felt vindicated at how many of the Avengers turned against Tony at the end. I felt sorry for his shit life, but that doesn't justify the actions he took like recruiting a 15 year old to fight his war for him after feeling bad about causing the death of another teenager in AoU and using that as motive to be "accountable."

Even Tony went against the Accords to stop Zemo when he found out the truth about Bucky being framed, right up until he snapped and went berserker on Bucky. That right there proves how limited the Accords are in allowing them to do what they need to. Also turning all your heroes saving you from alien invasions into criminals is dumb as fuck. Stop pissing off the only people that have the abilities to save you. They're lucky that these "fugitive vigilantes" are good enough people that they'll still save the world's ungrateful ass in Infinity Wars.
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>>82392151
The point is that Tony wasn't thinking straight in that moment. It wasn't a calculated decision he thought about, he just saw red. The tragedy of it is that if Cap had just told him long ago, he would have come to that exact same conclusion you did. It was that it came out at that moment, accompanied by all the stress and that video and the perceived betrayal by Steve, that did it. And that's highly on Steve along with Tony.
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>>82392145
>>82392226
They clarified the number later

>During a special IMAX screening of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, the Russos clarified their statement saying ““We were being figurative when we said [67 characters] and people took it as literal but there’s a lot of characters.”

“>Infinity War is meant to be the culmination of the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe up to that point.” they continued. “It’s very ambitious in its scope, it wants to take everything that you’ve seen before and coalesce into some kinda of climactic ending. It’s complicated , ambitious storytelling…We’re not talking about lead characters, just people that make an appearance.”
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>>82392264
It was rumored today/yesterday that Danvers will be introduced in IW1.
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>>82390921
Wanda is so cuddly.
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>>82392289
This is officially a new /co/ meme.
This pleases me.
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>>82392280
so they could introduce I don't know Nova, Quasar etc... in the way they put Spidey and ANTS in the movie then?, I would get behind that
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>>82392148
>>82392152
Yeah, it probably wasn't handled perfectly, but I didn't think they were cruel to her, either. More like, "uuhh, we' prefer you'd stay in 'cause uuuh" - not elegant, but not terrible.
Also - Tony Stark messing up a human interaction, what else is new?
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>>82392286
Presumably as just Carol Danvers? She gains her powers in Captain Marvel?
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>>82392145
>the Russos are juggling 67 characters for Infinity War.
HOW.
IN THE FUCK.
LIKE, ACTUALLY FUCKING HOW.
They barely just managed to not make more than a dozen fucking characters feel all crammed, how are they gonna deal with 5 times the amount of fucking people?
IW needs to be cut into three or more parts, even a two parter feels like not enough.
Unless both movies are like 3 hours long, then maybe it'll work out.
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>>82392211
Oh, I also forgot the bit where his wife left him, and the remainder of his non-paralyzed super friends now hate him.
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>>82392327
Most of them are gonna be minor characters and small cameos.
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>>82392274
>People don't have the right to be worried about ultra powerful people having no oversight.

I don't know what's ungrateful about that. Especially after all the havoc. Wanting super heroes to submit to oversight is hardly too much to ask. I'd be more than a little scared if I heard people outright refused to agree to that.
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>>82392314
You could show them just saving random people as the chaos goes down?
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>>82392151
To me, Tony had more right in being pissed at Steve for keeping the information from him than he did at Bucky. He knew Bucky was under mind control, just like Barton was under Loki's control. I get that it's upsetting to see, and emotions can crack a person, but trying to murder Bucky over it when the actual villain who blew up and killed people was RIGHT THERE made me less sympathetic.

That said, I really hope Bucky and Tony come to an understanding later. RDJ seems really fond of Sebastian Stan and might push for it.
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>>82392239
>We might actually get a proper Demon in a Bottle adaptation

No, no more suffering, please.
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>>82392327
Evans said in recent interview that the Russos told him about Infinity War story/plans and that he pities Markus&McFeely because they'll have a very difficult job when writing the script.

I can't imagine how hard it is to juggle so many characters.
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>>82392104
The irony of it is what I was stating earlier in my posts. Tony's irrational fear and paranoia helped fuel the Mark-42 into becoming real. Remember how the Mark-42 crept into Tony's bedroom and scared the shit out of Piper? Or how Rhodey's Iron Patriot armor got hacked into killing those Secret Service agents and kidnapping the President? That was a glimpse of what Tony was going to create in Ultron.

In AOU, the unfeeling response of a machine as a peacekeeper in the Iron Legion is the next step of Tony's unwittingly descent into being more like a machine. Ultron is the subconscious extent of the growing danger in Tony.

So Tony backed off from that approach and tries to become more human instead of cold-bloodedly logical. And like you said, he cracked because all those years of pressure and the descent in IM2/AOU caused a massive dichotomy that exploded under the right conditions.
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>>82392356
I haven't seen the movie: Do we know for certain that he would have killed Bucky if it came down to it? I kept hearing something about him not using that unibeam, for instance.
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>>82392367
>No, no, more suffering please

COMING RIGHT UP!
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>>82392313
No memes anon, we are just trying to bring back her smile.
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>doesn't get to use his armor in IM3
>btfo by random extremis goon
>btfo by Killian
>everyone mocks him in AoU (good scene though)
>only shows up at the end to kill like five robots with his minigun
>fucking BW killed more with a pistol
>shows up in this movie
>can't use his minigun to unload and kill all of Team Cap, none of whom can tank bullets
>useless during airport fight
>btfo by own teammate
>teammate doesn't give a fuck
>gets paralyzed and nearly killed by 100 meter fall
>only casualty of the battle
>just accepts it at end of movie

being a Rhodey fan is suffering.
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>>82392239
Man I thought I wanted it. But the thought of MCU Stark turning into a sad lonely drunk just makes me depressed.
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>>82392347
If I lived in the Marvel universe with as often as the government turns out to be secretly Hydra and shit, with the world security council's brilliant solution being to blow up New York, Shield being the one fucking around with the cosmic cube, I'd trust the Avengers over the UN.
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>>82392394
I'm already preparing myself for the inevitable "IW will be delayed".
Like, fuck it, I wouldn't even be mad if they explain that it's so they can tweak and make the best possible movie.
The stakes are at an all time high now, any kind of fuck up could be the doom of Marvel.
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>>82392438
That'd be quite a thing for RDJ to have to play considering his history. He'd probably kill it for just that reason, but I hope they have a therapist on hand while he's filming if they go that route.
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>>82392418
He seemed very ready to kill Bucky and blew his arm off, he wasn't stopping. The fight was extremely intense and Tony didn't seem ready to stop until he thought Cap was going to kill him and smashed in his reactor instead.
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>>82392464

Script is getting handed in during the next few weeks

Filming is meant to start November of this year, and is to last 9 months.
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>>82392464
Captain Marvel has me most worried. I'm afraid of a Brave situation where they mess with it so much we get something mediocre.

On the other hand we've heard nothing about it so I can't really judge.
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>>82392469
Nah. The 'RDJ can't handle playing himself' is a meme. He's played alcoholics, druggies and substance abusers ever since he began acting.
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>>82392278
I agree, which is why I even mentioned that Steve was just at fault here.

Both Steve and Tony were trying to determine what Bucky's role was and completely ignored him as a human being. He had no say about his fate up until the very end. And it was T'Challa who saw this and gave Bucky the choice that was denied to him by his friend and the son of the people he unwillingly murdered.

T'Challa was the true hero in this entire story because he saw the abyss of what vengeance would do to him and got back out. He rightfully saw what made Zemo do what he did as well what turned Bucky into Winter Soldier. And he acted in true superhero fashion for both men.
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>>82392334
At least he still has Vision. And Peter's, like, his biggest fan.

>yfw it might be revealed that Peter actually based his colors off of Iron Man and Captain America
>yfw Tony and Steve later act like a bickering married couple over him after resolving their differences

>Peter: "Uh, guys?"
>Tony: "Hush now, kid. Mom and dad are talking."
>Steve: "Wait, which one of us is the dad?"
>Tony: "Well I thought that was obvious. I'm the one who brings the checks home. That's how it worked back in the Forties, right?"
>Steve: "Do I need to give you a lesson on civil liberties and equality?"
>Tony: "This coming from the man who did military stage shows with a bunch of showgirls? Yeah, I saw the footage."
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>>82392464
Especially juggling the filming of the other movies happening in the same years. I really hope they don't overexhaust the actors and burn them out
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>>82392493
He could've killed Bucky instead of entrapping him in the missile silo.
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>>82392493
Blew off his fake arm? Couldn't he just have immediately fired his most powerful weapon at him if he wanted to end it?
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>>82392533
T'Challa sounds pretty based. Any clues as to how he'd fit into the next movies?
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>>82392356
>but trying to murder Bucky over it when the actual villain who blew up and killed people was RIGHT THERE made me less sympathetic.
That's why I said, I would knock Bucky out, but still apprehend Zemo if it had been me. Oh and crack Steve in the jaw for keeping that truth from me and not trusting me enough to handle it.

This was indeed a very Marvel Comics movie. Marvel heroes are not paragons of virtue, they're insanely flawed and complex beings. This movie confirms that Disney knows what it's doing with the adaptations unlike Warner Brothers with DC.
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>>82392561
>He could've killed Bucky instead of entrapping him in the missile silo.
He would have killed Bucky but his targeting system failed. He shut the exit instead not out of mercy but because it was the only guaranteed thing he could do with manual aiming.
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>>82392226
They don't have to give each character individual screentime like in Civil War. Combine certain characters into units that act as characters. Like the GotG squad as spoken for by Quill, Tony/Rhodey as another unit, Pym/Hope/ANTS as another, and so on, with each of them getting a unique line or two. Bam, ten characters crammed into three.
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I get it wouldn't make sense in this movie, but I would've liked to see an old Peggy and old Jarvis.

Wonder how much Tony interacted with Peggy, if at all. I also wonder if old Jarvis would be played by prostethics Bettanny or prosthetics D'arcy.
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>>82392600

But Captain America and Iron Man don't smash a building into rubble every time they punch each other, clearly this is an inferior film.
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How the fuck are they going to explain every single MCU hero that is going to be in infinity war and do it so that a normie who has only watched the other Avenger movies will understand it?
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>>82392654
Jarvis is deader than a doorknob. Surprised they didn't show him getting killed by Bucky.
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>>82392600
His personal issues with Bucky and Steve should have been handled after apprehending Zemo, instead Zemo was going to get away with it all if it weren't for Panther stopping him from an heroing. But I understand he was blinded by rage in the moment. I do think Steve should have told him ahead of time, but I also understand why he didn't because he had no idea how Tony would take it or when the right time would have been.

I just think back to Luke Cage finding out about Jessica Jones not only having killed his wife but keeping it from him as she was sleeping with him. Luke was rightfully pissed, but he had way more restrain and showed to be a way better man than Tony.

Tony has very evident issues with ptsd and everything else, it makes him a very interesting and flawed character. It just makes me question him being in charge of them all when he's so easily emotionally compromised.
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>>82392702
Yeah he probably died sometime before Tony's puberty, I guess.
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>>82392690
They won't care about the ones who haven't watched it.
Ant-Man made ''only'' 500 million and they included him in CW without any introduction.
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>>82392568
Yep though you could chalk it up to Tony wanting to beat Bucky to death with his bare hands. Still, Tony wasn't as brutal as he could potentially be in that fight.

Blowing off the cybernetic arm was out of desperation and survival. Bucky was close to ripping out the arc reactor and Tony hit him with a full-burst of repulsor. It wasn't his real arm and I don't think Tony was that fucked-up to use it on Bucky's organic one.
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Haven't seen it yet. Which actor would you say stole the show in this movie?
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>>82392743
But what if there is a backlash from the general audience and critics who can't be bothered to keep up with everything?
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New thread?
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>>82392780
Rudd and Boseman for me.
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>>82392431
Uh.. w-who is that?
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>>82392289
>>82392431
NOT AGAIN
NO MORE
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>>82392747
Bucky was mostly shown to be defending himself in the entire film with everyone coming after him. His fighting style was way more defensive than when he was the Winter Soldier. Disabling the arc reactor probably would have ended the fight, Bucky wouldn't have killed Tony. He wasn't out for Tony's blood the way Tony was out for his. So I don't really buy the "survival" excuse because the only reason there was a battle to the death was because Tony himself initiated it.
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>>82392825
Wanda.
Tony is gone, and those missions around the world are not cheap.
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>>82392806
People don't complain about not getting a story for missing the prior episode.

The MCU is basically a serial, and they've started to expect people to watch what they want, even if it means going back. Which is fucking great and a long time coming.
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>>82392838
Even Cap does his part to bring in money.
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>>82392818
Got you, senpai
>>82392695

>>82392695

>>82392695
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>>82392609
I know, but he could've easily spammed Bucky with enough firepower to make him into a bloody pulp. I think Tony wanted to beat Bucky up, but not to the point of death. He's never actually killed someone with his own 2 hands. Vanko blew himself up and Obadiah being shocked to death was the only option that Tony had left to deal with the Iron Monger's power. Killian was all Pepper.

>>82392662
Yet they're willing to cause a massive metahuman brawl that tore up NYC in the comics.

Fact is, MCU doesn't have the history that the comics did and I think they did a fair job in depicting the Marvel Universe heroes in their attitudes and themes.
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>>82392876
>Von't you home Fanz Browzer? Von't you come home?
>Ach du liber das ist nicht eine boobie!
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>>82392713
Zemo knew precisely this is how Tony was gonna act. It's not hard to gauge Stark's reaction if you research him and observe his actions from IM1 to AOU. He was a walking time bomb from Daddy issues to PTSD like you said.

The fact that he fell for Zemo's plot hook, line, and sinker makes me hope he realizes this and actually gets some fucking help.
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>>82392876
>tfw Bucky's sleeping body is whored out for extra cash, the Bride-style
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>>82392839
There was that time when Bucky twisted the repulsor hand to Tony's face. That could've caused massive damage.

I think both of them were dangerously skirting the line between BTFO and straight-up killing. It's what happens when you have 2 emotionally charged guys with mental issues. Poor Bucky is still trying to get over being a HYDRA hitman and is trying to defend himself against the son of one of his targets.
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Team Cap.

Then objectively, from the politics of the accords: Cap. Tony has fucked up every chance he's got at making things better by trying to plan ahead when he's clearly bad for it. Hydra happened, The World Security Council tried to nuke NY, Hell, Stark himself had to fight tooth and nail the U.S government to prevent them from accessing his tech.

Moreover, people can wear a fake face in this world, why would you trust politicians to be real? And just from real world precedents, we all know the red tape would strangle the Avengers and make them into a political tool. Cap was right in not wanting the Avengers to have to ask permission to take action, because in the real world, the freaking government of Germany won't take action against mass rapists.

On the emotional level: Both are fucked up. Tony is trying to overcompensate for feeling guilty since the beginning, and he feels responsible for the shit he pulled with Ultron and Sokovia, he's not thinking straight from the beginning of the movie.
At the end, is understandable he would lose his cool and go into murder mode, but he was rather dumb. Even with the shitty writing, not even Batfleck would've played into Luthor's plan if he had witnessed Luthor manipulating them both firsthand. Tony had the advantage of KNOWING Zemo wanted him to react violently, and still did so.

Cap is obviously acting a bit selfish to protect his buddy, but the truth is, if he knew a hunted man is innocent, he would do the same for them, that's just Cap. Bucky was being framed, his nostalgia goggles made him dig deeper and upon finding out this man, his brother was innocent, he couldn't do less than make sure he'd be taken in alive to sort things out. He didn't attempt to break out after they were arrested, he was fine with being labeled a criminal if it ensured an innocent man would get fair treatment and not be shot on sight.

He was wrong in keeping the truth from Stark.
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>>82392895
>I know, but he could've easily spammed Bucky with enough firepower to make him into a bloody pulp
The fact is Tony believed Cap would have killed him, and the only reason he believed that was because he was also intending to kill Bucky at the time. Tony is so egotistical that he assumes everyone else thinks like him, that it is always about him.
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>>82392895
>>>82392609
>He's never actually killed someone with his own 2 hands.

Do you think that terrorist he punched thirty feet in the air in the first movie survived? What about that one whose head he smashed into a wall?
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>>82392839
Tony evidently got under the impression that this was a fight to the death somewhere into the fight. He even flinched like Cap was going to kill him. He might not have gleaned that Bucky wasn't out for blood.
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>>82393097
I don't think that was a matter of arrogance. When you just got beat to shit, sometimes instinct comes up. It's probably hard to remember that someone might not want to kill you when they're wailing on you two against one. That moment was just there to show that things had gone way too far and knowledge of intentions were completely lost.
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