Civil War

>>82376292
Agreed, top contender for best MCU movie

Do people really think there's no problem with a team of American based people with powers traveling around the world and conducting whatever operations they feel like with absolutely no oversight but their own to keep them in check?

I just arrived from the cinema. Amazing movie. It's weird how Captain America, a literal who? got the best Marvel movies

No great plan, no world domination, just a man wanting revenge. I was pleasantly surprised when they found those super soldiers dead.

>>82376347
Yeah, but on the other hand the armies and security agencies all over the world failed to protect it, forcing a bunch of superpowered freaks to intervene. Not to mention SHIELD being nothing but a Hydra's filial.

>>82376292
There were at least 500 different reasons why this movie could've been a glorious fuck up, yet it managed to sail right over any of those issues and end up being a great movie. Saw it twice in one day, might be seeing it again on Monday. Call me a shill if you must.

To me the best part is that Black Panther felt fucking fantastic, just felt completely badass even with small amount of time we got with him. Accent + action + fight style + great acting + best lines in the movie. I went in dreading 'WE WUZ KINGS'

>>82376347
No, I totally understand the concern. I think my opinion is just that we need more people doing "good" in this world and assisting others in any way that they can, and often times the concern with the law isn't with helping others. My perception is that what Cap is doing is incredibly risky, but that oversight can just as easily lead into even shakier ethics, which won't even be properly challenged.

>>82376347
if they're gonna fuck up your country, just kill them

>>82376404
The fact that it still manages to be a Captain America movie all the while is some damn good writing/acting. No fan could walk away upset with how their character was handled. Well, unless you're a diehard Zemo fan.

Comapred to a viewing of BvS I was at where a little girl was crying by the time Supes picked up the spear.

>>82376347
Oversight sounds good, but the UN is inefficient as hell. SHIELD was the best option and even they got infiltrated by HYDRA.

Anyone else wasn't too impressed with the airport fight? The excessive quips kinda put a damper on the tension and the CG extravaganza did nothing for me. Bucky escaping the German special forces and Cap in the apartment complex was the best.

I gotta be honest, I was super pleased by how you could tell that Tony was genuinely trying to do the right thing and what was best for everyone and bring all his friends in unharmed if possible. And that he was willing to end up helping Steve out when it became clear that he was right *in this particular instance* while keeping himself off the radar so he can stick to the law like he thinks is right in the future.

The denoument of the film was weak but it didn't end up spoiling it for me. And of course Lang and Parker were entirely superfluous but added a lit to the scenes they were in.

>>82376565
The whole apartment scene felt like Jason Bourne with a Shield. Which would have been perfect for TWS but wasn't as ideal in CW.

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>>82376532
>Well, unless you're a diehard Zemo fan.
If they can handle Zemo's first appearance, they should be able to handle this

>>82376292
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT

>>82376292
You've got heart, kid.

I love the fact that the Russos are so based they can make a capeflick really grounded while also really fantastical.

For fuck's sake, they allowed Hawkeye to shoot 18 straight holes in one in a round of golf.

>People are already calling Civil War shit and Batman v Superman the superior hero vs hero film

ayy

>>82376347
Maybe they can classify themselves as an NGO

>>82377049
holy shit they got rustled so hard they don't understand language anymore

>>82376292
American here, I just realized I could have gone to a free screening today but I missed my chance.

>>82377049
DC fanboys are insane.

>>82376347
>Do people really think there's no problem with a team of American based people with powers traveling around the world and conducting whatever operations they feel like with absolutely no oversight but their own to keep them in check?
They showed their incompetence by declaring their intent to kill Bucky on sight, when they only had a bad quality video to prove he was guilty. If this is the future of the Accords then there will be a LOT more dead innocent people, and not less.

I just saw the movie, took me a few hours to process what I just saw. I felt it was a good movie, but I was disappointed because it could have been a GREAT movie if not for its flaws. The beginning act of the movie had the same issues as Age of Ultron with the pace of the plot too fast, shaky cam and cheap cgi effects (especially the iron man suit). The countless cameos also ruined it and it didn't feel like a Cap movie. On the other hand we had a great villain motive and scheme, and Black Panther and Spidey were introduced amazingly well. Maybe Marvel shouldn't have omitted the Avengers except for Iron Man and Rhodes while keeping the Black Panther and Spidey appearances. Could have made for a more personal story without the distractions. Well that's my two cents /co/.

Oh, and Aunt May is fucking hot, Peter must be blowing his load all the time. And what was with the CAPITAL LETTERS every time there was a change in venue?

>>82377235

*should have omitted

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>>82377235
>Oh, and Aunt May is fucking hot, Peter must be blowing his load all the time.
RDJ and the Aunt May actress played as lovers in a different film.

>>82377235
I thought the location announcement was stylized and really cool, personally.

Reminder that Aunt May is Uncle Ben PARKER's widow. Ain't no blood relation there, guys.

>>82377253


>Reminder that Aunt May is Uncle Ben PARKER's widow. Ain't no blood relation there, guys.

Welp, that me to fap (I would have anyway 2bh)

>>82376292
ending was a bit rushed, Sam decided to tell Tony where Steve was for no reason. And Tony's intelligence happened to find out that it was Zemo wearing a Bucky mask who bombed Nigeria/

>>82377253
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>>82377265
>that me

How do you get that from the word TIME, phone?

>>82377253
>He's never read trouble
oh how joyous.

>>82377265
>>82377288
dumb phoneposter

>>82377272
Maybe Zemo allowed the body and the prosthetics to be found so he could lure Iron Man to the complex and enact the last part of his plan.

>>82377302
He did. He specifically phoned the hotel he had been staying at so room service would discover the body.

>>82377290
That only makes it hotter.

>>82377302
I thought it was obvious he wanted to be found out? He called and ordered breakfast so somebody would discover the dead interrogator in his bathtub

>>82377233
To be fair, dude's probably had 'kill on sight' orders on him for the last 80 years.

Its not like this was his first big crime.

Winter Soldier punching Howard Stark with his metal arm was brutal. No wonder Tony went ballistic

>>82377349
Supposedly he's so effective that almost nobody knows he even exists.

>>82377349
>To be fair, dude's probably had 'kill on sight' orders on him for the last 80 years.
>Its not like this was his first big crime.
The point here is that the UN acted incorrectly here. And if they can't get this right, then they were never going to get anything right after the Accords.

Falcon got the War Destroyer first the War Machine

>>82376292
Do we all agree then? The general, and I do mean General consensus is that Spider-man, Ant Man and Black Panther were the high points of the film.

I agree but really would like to add that it takes nothing from Steve and Stark, they were handled pretty awesome. And Hawkeye rocked, which was great.

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I like how in the midst of all them fighting, both groups were able to see the good nature of their rivals

>You're pretty strong, kid. Were you from?
>Queens
>(smile) Brooklyn.

I miss that piece of shit city. Have to visit it someday again.

>>82377393
Ant-Man was fucking amazing too.

The universal consensus is that Sharon Carter was the only noticeably weak element of the film.

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>>82377248
Uncle Tony incoming how would that make you feel anon?

Just finished watching it. It was a hell of a ride, really enjoyable, fewer jokes than AoE and the action was phenomenal.

One thing I don't get was Zemo's master plan felt way too complicated just to get Tony angry over Winter Soldier. Did he know that WS killed Stark before they led him to the Winter Soldiers chamber?

>>82377415
Part of me wishes he got more time to interact with everyone else because he's fucking great.

>>82377415
>Sharon Carter was the only noticeably weak element of the film.

m-muh waifu....

>>82377427
The point is that Zemo's plan can happen in more than one way. Since he is the only person running the plan he doesn't have to tell anyone to change it on the fly.

>>82377427
Adding to that Was the video only available in the WinterSoldier Chamber?

>>82377437
Is she related to Peg in the MCU?

>>82377437
Sorry pal. Maybe she'll get her dues in another movie.

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>>82377437
Time to get a better waifu anon.

>>82377427
Of course he knew. I think that was the centerpiece of his plan; something so powerful that it would break apart the brain and heart of the Avengers (Cap and Tony)

>>82377446
Yes, and that's why a lot of people who don't even care about shipping got creeped out.

>>82377371
That was before the SHIELD leaks in Winter Soldier, anon.

>>82377448
Really glad no romance in that movie. I'm still having a hard time trying to get used to Vision.

>>82377415
HOLY SHIT

>>82377272
>Sam decided to tell Tony where Steve was for no reason
What? He believed Cap needed the help. Steve had trouble with just Bucky before, and they thought they were going up against 5 super assassins who may have been even more dangerous than him, plus whatever else they could imagine Zemo could come up with in the mean time.

There's no bitter hatred between Cap and Tony's groups here. They're all allies. They know they're allies. They know the only reason they're fighting against each other is because of their different stances.

>>82376292
Iron Man is the best villain the MCU has EVER had.

If you deny Tony stark isn't a villain, that just goes to show how good he was.

Although I don't approve of MCU villains being killed off, they should have made an exception for this movie. Should have just let Zemo kill himself, his story arc is done.

>>82377415
Romance stuff is always the weakest point of MCU movies, I don't know why they even bother anymore.

>>82377548
Nah senpai he'll be back and reveal he's actually the new leader of Hydra and that he made Stark and the New Avengers his bitch

>>82377551
Good:
>Steve/Peggy
OK:
>Tony/Pepper
Shit:
>Thor/Jane
>Star-Lord/Gamora
>Scott/Hope
Shittiest of the Shit:
>Banner/Widow

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>>82377448

>>82377235
Weird. I actually felt that the opening scene was probably the strongest opener in any cape movie thus far. I actually enjoyed it more than the Winter Soldier opening, and it was even better after coming from the turdheap that was Ultron's opener.

But that might just be because of my waifu Scarlet in casual clothes playing secret agent, steve fucking kicking a guy halfway across a compound into a stone pillar and the absolute madness that was crossbones vs widow. Granted, the shaky cam in the beginning was annoying. But I can call it a necessary evil since it did the job of conveying the sort of chaos that the New Avengers have to deal with compared to the steady shots and focus that Iron Man and co have when handling threats. So annoying yes, but for a reason.

When I left the cinema yesterday I came out wanting two things. A Black Panther movie and a cornflakes dispenser.

>>82377588
>>82377448
I don't like seeing her sad.

In two scenes of the movie a german private TV stations news show appeared, with logo and everything

The issue is: That station has, since the 90s, broadcasted DC stuff. Batman TAS was on it, Adventures of Lois&Clark, Batman Beyond, Gotham, The Flash - all on that station.

Does that mean DC exists as a comic book company in the MCU?

Will we see Star-Lord in Infinity War?

>>82376347
Man if only people had rebuilt SHIELD with a team of people with someone like Coulson heading the way. Too bad nothing like that exists in the MCU and only happened in some fan fiction.

>>82377636
Yes.

>>82377627
DC has always existed as a comic book company in Marvel. They reference Batman and Superman frequently

>>82377636
No

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>>82377525
This is Tony's lowest point i would hope they rebuild him.

>>82377636
Maybe

>>82377636
Definitely

>>82377577
>Shittiest of the shit not Thor/Jane

Also Starlord/Gamora felt like ship bait for their movie.

Will we see Deadpool in Punisher?

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>>82377415
She definitely had a much bigger role in an earlier version, given the promo material and the fact that she is featured in the Lego airport battle set, wielding handguns.

>>82377663
>This is Tony's lowest point i would hope they rebuild him.
Tony isn't a god. A god wouldn't need Friday to win his battles for him. I am expecting Friday to end up being made into an android with Tony wanting to make his own version of Vision, as well as needing someone to substitute for Pepper who isn't talking to him anymore.

So was there an external reason Pepper Potts didn't make a single appearance? I mean I'm glad they finally acknowledged Ironman 3's ending but I'm wondering if the actress had a reason for not appearing

>>82377684
Poor little white girl.

>>82377684
That looks extremely photoshopped

>>82377707
They probably didn't want to use one of the films from her contract just for a glorified cameo.

>>82377684
Can't tell if this is shooped because the face placement.

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Computer, load up Giant-Man please.

>>82377725
Didn't she have a small role in Avengers 1?

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>>82377722
The others weren't really any better.

>>82377707
>So was there an external reason Pepper Potts didn't make a single appearance? I mean I'm glad they finally acknowledged Ironman 3's ending but I'm wondering if the actress had a reason for not appearing
There is already too many characters. Also it is easier to show Tony going off the deep end without Pepper. Finally it is justified that Pepper just got tired being his babysitter. Pepper is still running Tony's Empire and basically keeping the money rolling in while Tony play superhero, but she just refuse to be Tony's substitute mother anymore.

Pepper isn't Batman's Alfred. She has no obligation to stick around and take Tony's shit. She is a loyal employee but he just asks too much from her. That's why Tony's only friends are robots and AIs.

>>82377744
http://celeryman.alexmeub.com/

>>82377744
I just want to know, how many /tv/ threads has there been spamming Giant-ManxBaneposting.

>>82377755
I actually thought that was one of the less terrible ones. T'Challa has a really fucked up leg.

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>>82377755
Well, except for glorious ANTS, of course.

>>82377562
I like him not eing associated with Hydra. Hydra in the MCU is this grander schene where anyone can be sacrificed.

Zemo is the will of a single man.

>>82377756
Even his parents were just CG in his current life

Were Zemo and Crossbones working together? Did we ever find out why Crossbones was after that bio-weapon?

>>82377782
Almost looks like the ASM1 poster pose.

>>82377755
Aww, he looks like a prowling cat.

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>>82377781
Now that you mention it, it looks like he has a broken ankle, a copy-paste error on his left leg and a tumor on his right forearm.

Tony did nothing wrong

>>82377786
Shame he didn't have an iconic attire. He will just be remembered as that foreign blonde guy who made Tony and Captain America fight.

QUESTION?
Does Vision get a good showing and a good amount of screentime?

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I honestly don't remember her ever using those electro rods.

>>82377794
Probably not. It was just fluff to add to the Avengers' multiple counts of destruction of lives, property.

>>82377427
I kinda thought his plan was flexible and he knew he'd find something in there that would piss one or both of them off.

>>82377794
It's not really important, it's just a Macguffin.

>>82377841
Or the tonfas she's been shown with in some pics.

>>82377722
>That looks extremely photoshopped
>>82377755
>The others weren't really any better.
>>82377782
>Well, except for glorious ANTS, of course.
The opinion seem to be that these shots were done with random nobodies in costume, and then had the actor's faces photoshoped in. And as such they tend to suck.

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>>82377826
Next movie maybe.

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>>82377835
Yes and yes.

>>82377835
>Good amount of screentime
He has less than Wanda. Not a lot of appearances too.

>Good showing
A few fight scenes and a good fight against Wanda in the trailer's kneeling scene

Also something with War Machine

>>82377854
I don't remember Sebastian Stan ever looking like that though. I remember him having a beard whenever his hair was long and so on.

>>82377835
I thought Vision was great; but I love Bettany whatever he's in.

>>82377835
>>82377856
Idk, I felt like he was underused in the airport fight. He kinda disappeared for a while.

>>82377835
>Does Vision get a good showing and a good amount of screentime?
He displays his powers, but he also noted that he doesn't understand the stone on his head and as such can't access its true powers. He also worries that the stone is a part of him and as such is a vulnerability.
Wanda took advantage of that by using her powers to stun Vision indirectly THROUGH the stone.

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>>82377695
>Tony isn't a god.
No he's a egomaniac with unwarranted self importance.

>Tony wanting to make his own version of Vision
I think Tony is up for character development and will steer clear of shit like that.

>needing someone to substitute for Pepper
Aunt May or some bimbo or Pete.

So what country you guys from? Is the US getting a later release?

>>82377405
Contrast with Batman trying to fucking murder Superman outright because fuck it.

>>82377889
It came out about 3 days ago here in Australia. Pretty sure the US doesn't get it until the 6th.

>>82377886
Aunt May being so young is kinda weird for me. I'll get used to it maybe in the Spidey film.

>>82377415
I root a lot for that little guy. I am so glad that people like him so much and he's been prominent enough, despite people judging from the start that he was useless.

>>82377889
Colombia here. It premiered two days ago (currently it's sunday, 4:30 am).

>>82377794
Don't think we have any confirmation, unless someone can post a source.

But from the dialogue and motives we got in the movie, Cap specifically asks him who his buyer is, so I assumed that Zemo wanted the weapon as a contingency plan or something. But then Wanda blew up some africans and a better plan fell into place for him. If it gets confirmed that Zemo planned for bones to blow himself up that is some Aizen-level shit there.

Of course in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter whether they were working together or not since that wasn't the point really. And in that same sequence Scarlet Witch illustrates that air-based weapons aren't a sure success against Avengers.

>>82377903
She's 50 though. The age you'd expect the aunt of a teenager to be.

>>82377886
>Aunt May or some bimbo or Pete.
None of them could replace Pepper. Friday is basically his closest available aid now, and note that she is actually a better fighter than Tony is, and that he just has reservations of relying on an AI like that.

>>82377636
Yes, confirmed by the Russos.

>>82377903
She isn't that young. She's 51 but man is she hot.
I'm crossing my fingers she's as hot in 10 years.

>>82377896
During the final fight with Ironman, Bucky and Cap I was slightly distracted by the thought of Bucky saying "SAVE MARIA...MY MOM...HER NAME'S MARIA"

>>82377909
It's because his movie was so based. Nobody would give a shit about him if it had turned out just mediocre.

>>82377577
Star-Lord/Gamorra was great because it was just Quill trying super hard to be a badass space hero who gets the girl and Gamorra wasn't having any of that shit. Glad they never hooked up.

>>82377921
>>82377929
Nah I mean I'm used to Aunt May portrayals in the comics and the first trilogy to have graying/white short hair.

>>82377946
If you think about it, it was always kind of weird that Aunt May was so old. She looks more like she should be Peter's grandma.

>>82377945
The fact that they even got close enough that it seemed like they might until the pelvic sorcery line irked me though.

>>82377835
There were lots of good moments in this film.

But Vision reaching the airport and putting every 'hero' in their place was pretty fucking good. Everyone just kind of came to a standstill when he got there due to equal parts respect and fear.

I know you believe that you are doing what is right.

>>82377909
>>82377939
I feel bad about the prison scene where he mentioned Pym to Tony and he has no idea who Scott is. I'm more surprised Antman and Spider-Man didn't fight as much considering both are insect/arachnid based heroes in red and has decent agility

>>82377946
Even that doesn't make sense. She looked like she was 70 when Pete was a teenager. Why the fuck would someone in their mid 50s adopt a kid? Why would someone in their mid 50s, be the older siblings of someone with a 5 year old kid? That'd put Pete's parents in their 40s or so. It never added up

the

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>>82377903
Me to but Marisa Tomei come on anon and as another anon said she is still on the older side.

>>82377922
Pepper is dog shit May is superior.

>>82377954
Right now I'm just reminded of Mark Millar's "TROUBLE"

>>82377841
She used them against Ultron

>>82377945
>Star-Lord/Gamorra was great because it was just Quill trying super hard to be a badass space hero who gets the girl and Gamorra wasn't having any of that shit. Glad they never hooked up.
I want Gamorra to become just like Quill in that she would start picking up men like she does in the comics. I think it is fair that Quill isn't the only one who can wake up next to random people he doesn't remember the name of.

>>82377967
Yeah, that was wasted potential. They should've had Ant-Man get flung at one point and get caught in Spoderman's web.

>>82377970
To be fair, we don't know exactly how old MCU Aunt May is. Marisa Tomei is 51, that doesn't mean her character is.

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>>82378003
So how was the fight?

>>82377921
I'm 25 and my mom's sister still isn't 50 yet. And she's my mom's older sister. Aunt May always seemed old as fuck to me.

>>82378011
Spiderman and Ant-man didn't fight directly, but they turned the tide of the battle at times. Their particular abilities were something neither team were prepared for.

>>82378003
51 sounds about right since we know Peter is canonically 15. 36 when he was born, if she was the older sister by a few years that puts Peter's mom at 30-32, which seems right to me given the socioeconomic status and jobs held by Peter's parents.

>>82378032
"Does anyone else on this team have any unique powers they can pull out of their ass?"
Loved that bit.

>>82377945
Fuck you sjw piece of human fucking trash.
Guys who work hard for it DO deserve to vet laid.

>>82378044
"Give me back my Rhodey" was cute too.

>>82378053
Consider: there's a difference between trying hard and being a tryhard

>>82378053
/r9k/ pls

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>>82377922
>Friday
>some bimbo
Pick one.

>>82377933
Yep, Stark being motivated by Bucky killing his parents definitely reminded me of BvS. I almost felt it as a jab, a la "this is how you do it, guys."

>>82378070
I worked really hard at football in school because I loved it but I was still shit. Does that mean I deserve to be a pro player? No, of course not.

>>82378080
It'd struggle to be a jab at a movie released a month before it.

>>82378112
YOU DIDN'T TRY HARD ENOUGH!

Can we talk about how great this movie is for NOT killing Cap?
I went in fully expecting to leave in downed spirits because I'd seen the image of Stark in front of Steve's body like in the comics. It was so reminiscent of Star Wars Han Solo spoiler that I thought it was real

Man I was relieved.

>>82378125
That's the beauty of it.

>>82378132
>Man I was relieved.
Tony wasn't. ;-;

>>82378155
THE CAP IS DEAD

BURY IT

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Have you thanked them yet?

>>82378053
>Guys who work hard for it DO deserve to vet laid.
He gets laid all the time, it's not like he could only fuck her. Why get annoyed that he failed that one time?

>>82378032

I was expecting something about Spider-Man getting jealous about Antman being able to talk to ants. Maybe in the next few films...

Also who else was slightly unneededly disappointed that the Netflix series wasn't referenced?

>>82378132
My heart was racing because I thought it would be Tony that would be dying. I remember Bucky clutching at the chest of his suit and it wasn't until the end of the movie when I remembered that he already fixed his heart in the third IronMan movie.

>>82378170
Thanks you based MarkusFeelyRussos.

At my showing, when WS tells Cap he's not sure he's worth all this trouble, some guy behind me told his buddy "Of course you're not worth it, fucking unbearable bitch".

Anybody else resented Buck? I didn't, but I can see how some people might.

Also it's hilarious how the film is basically an enormous jealous harem competition between Buck, Sam and Tony.

Spider-Man being there felt off for me, like Tony hiring a kid for his army while Black Panther might be confusing for those unfamiliar to the character in the slightest for the audience.

Kinda stupid how Bucky goes back to sleep again so basically everything that had occurred was pointless, also wouldn't Cap have destroyed the book?

>>82378185
Dude same. I didn't realize how much I liked Tony until that moment.

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>>82378187
>"Of course you're not worth it, fucking unbearable bitch".

>>82378177
Not kidding, I still had hope DD might show up. Way to many people onscreen for that to happen, though.. I would've liked some dialogue reference like they did for Spidey in Ant-man.

>>82376565
The airport fight was supposed to be a fuck around between friends. Everyone was pulling their punches except for Panther. That's why when War Machine gets fucked up and Tony snaps it's supposed to be a big deal.

The best scene was Cap and Bucky fighting Tony Stank.

>>82378187
>At my showing, when WS tells Cap he's not sure he's worth all this trouble, some guy behind me told his buddy "Of course you're not worth it, fucking unbearable bitch".
>Anybody else resented Buck? I didn't, but I can see how some people might.
Bucky is literately the last human alive who had any connection with Steve's pre-frozen life after Peggy died. Of course he is going to hold on to Bucky like his whole existence depends on it.

>>82378187
I was sympathetic with Cap for being protective over his little Bucky-chan but yeah, I feel it worked well into splitting the audience to be for and against pro and anti-registrant teams

Still requesting a snap of Bucky and Falcon congratulating Steve for scoring with his Ex's Niece. Anyone?

>>82378214
>Panther
Is it bad i wanted him to push Widows shit in after tasering him.

>>82378207
Yeah that was also my reaction pretty much.

Tony's "I don't care" > T'Challa's "I don't care"

>>82378215
Steve Rogers' fatal flaw is his inability to let go of the long-lost past. It's a good little chink in the armor of the perfect guy everyone else in the MCU expects him to be.

>>82378208
No youtube videos for night-based vigilantes.

Scarlet Johanssen is seriously a black hole of charisma.

>>82378237
That's a very slashy way of wording it. T'Tasha?

Man, fuck the SJW, she really is a hoe.

>>82378187
It's not Bucky's fault Cap is so hellbent on protecting his waifu'd ass. He never asked for this, or to have a yandere for a husbando.

>>82377886
>unwarranted self importance.
You have a funny definition of self importance. Tony's saved the world numerous times, many times on his own.

While that's not terribly impressive compared to his peers, he's done it through science, technology, and sheer willpower rather than any superpowers.

That's something to be respected.

>>82378235
Bumping this. I bet the tumblr shippers are re-drawing the scene but with Bucky being jealous.

>>82378215
Imagine if Cap never found out he was Bucky, how would he have felt about Peggy's death?

>Try to sneak out of an airport

>in costume

Bravo Cap.

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>>82378215
>Bucky is literately the last human alive who had any connection with Steve's pre-frozen life after Peggy died.
Honestly, I didn't even think of the connection of the whole plot with Peggy's funeral and Steve trying so hard to save Bucky until now.
Good job, director. Good theming and subtle characterization.

>>82378247
If she only had a Russian accent I might have had a shot at likiing her.

>>82378256
Bucky's smile was sort of hesitant, you could already argue that he was being reluctantly happy for his beloved despite getting cucked.

How come there were no civilians at the airport? Did I miss something explaining this?

>>82378245
Right? I mean Jones paraded around NY beating up civilians and handing out citations and Stark doesn't know about her?

I guess you could say Murdock is stealthy but he's already hit the media, damn it!

>>82378247
I just don't understand why is she so popular.
Well, I kinda do but I think it's dumb. She was good in Winter Soldier though.

>>82378283
Right after Ant-Man meets Cap an announcement is made to evacuate the airport then Cap proceeds to tell everyone to suit up.

Well, Vision sure did drop his spaghetti.

>>82378285
>Jones
Has no motivation to fight and as a fellow alcoholic (or former), Tony wouldn't be able to recruit her, but a cameo/cut scene would've been nice.

>Daredevil
Hard to find the secret identity of a red ninja, especially one who's a blind lawyer.

OH NO, DOCTOR CONNORS CLASS

>>82378293
IM2 Widow is best Widow.
I also like her whenever she bounces back and forth with Clint.

>>82378293
It'd be funny if Wanda got the spin off movie rather than Widow.

>>82378293
She's the Jennifer Lawrence of X-Men.

>>82378315
Sure, they wouldn't have supported Tony, if anything I see them being more for Cap's side, but a quick dialogue reference would've been nice.

>>82378267
He hears the evacuation announcement and tells people to suit up. He knows exactly what's about to go down, he's just still hoping he can avoid it.

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>>82378255

>>82378321
Without Quickass?

Shame he died so soon. A movie about twin heroes would have potential.

>>82378319
Dude same. Clint/Widow banter is great.

>>82378321
Wanda in a buddy movie with Vision would be nice.

>>82378283
It was just after ANTS appeared and started feeling up Cap. An announcement/ Siren is heard in the background to evacuate the Airport which they attribute to Stark. It's why they go to the Airport fully geared up and not trying to sneak through in civvies.

>>82378339
Maybe a prequel ?

>>82378333
I kind of wonder if Stark had already been in touch with them at all. It probably wouldn't have been too difficult for him to find out who was pulling off superheroics in Queens if his tracking down of Peter is anything to go by.

I like to think he occupies his time with locating and contacting potential new candidates when he's not handing out FREE MONEY these days.

>>82378312
>Well, Vision sure did drop his spaghetti.
He likely needs at least three films before he would reach the maturity of a teenager.

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>>82378343

>Not a Marvel short film involving them cooking something

>>82377957
> Vision would have told Rosa Parks to give up her seat "so people will like you."

He's a fucking idiot.

Civil War drinking game: take a shot every time someone tries to blend in by wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses.

>>82378339
>>82378356
>not Cap 4 with the kooky quartet but with Bucky replacing Quickass

>>82378333
>"Don't worry kid, you're not the first one I visited, but sadly the drunk angry woman near Hell's Kitchen declined even after I offered to buy her more alcohol."

Alternately, the snipped page about Tony getting Wolverine and Spidey in but substitute Wolverine for Jessica.

Or something like in X-Men First Class ala "Go fuck yourself"

>>82378343
>>82378363
Dammit I want this now.

>>82378363
Marvel One-Shots Presents: True Kitchen Magic Requires Vision!

>>82378267
Didn't you hear the announcement while they were in the parking lot? It's impossible to sneak out of the airport because it was evacuated. The only ones there would be, well, Cap and his team. So why wouldn't he put on his equipment?

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>>82377622
> Imminent turn to dark side.

>>82378370
I realize there's a population problem mate, but genocide isn't the answer.

>>82378370
Pretty soon even that would be cosplay-popular.

>"The Discreet Agent"

>>82378363
>you will never cook with a cute goth looking foreign girl while dropping spaghetti over how inexperienced you are at cooking.

>>82378375
I can totally see that line in the film.

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>>82378370

>>82378240
SO MUCH THIS

>>82378408
GENIUS COSPLAY.

If only I were a tall black man or a buff white man or a sexy blonde/redhead chick then I could pull it off.

>>82378404
HOUSE OF M

>>82378365
That's just such an inappropriate comparison, anon. It really isn't comparable at all.

>>82378342
If they won't get a Netfix series or movie each, we should at least get a buddy cop movie with both of them.

>>82378343
Don't fuck with me like that man, you don't know how long I've been wanting a sequel to Wimbledon

>>82377884
Chaos Magic can cripple the stones as its an opposing universal force.

>>82378441
Just remembered Nuke from JessJones even pulled it off.

Why did they want to do a stairwell fight scene knowing that it would get compared to Daredevil's?

>>82378371
ANTS is more likely to take his place.

Is anybody else annoyed that Romanoff never says anything in russian anymore and doesn't have an accent? I mean, being a spy I can understand her forcing a more natural tone, but I like the russian accent...

>>82378442
She'll say "No, MORE mutants" this time.

>>82378436
I can understand not shaving but how come Bucky didn't cut his hair short the last two years.

>>82378436
I swear if Starlord dresses up like this in GOTG2...

>>82378436
You forgot Will from Jessica Jones.

Why is Vision wearing clothes?

>>82378461
Yeah, he had these subtle/not so subtle hints at a Cap comparison such as his entire wardrobe. I still can't believe I didn't know he was Nuke until it was blatantly stated.

>>82378475
Only when the X-Men rights return.

>>82378463
The S2 fight was horrible to watch through. Way too dark, blinking white light and the camera angles .

>>82378479
Maybe he likes having long hair.

>>82378484
Where's civi Widow? It's pretty much the only time I found her attractive in that movie

>>82378488
To try and be more human

>>82378470
I was already annoyed that she didn't have a straight russian accent in IM2

>>82378493
I care more about the right X-Men returning that the X-Men rights returning.

>>82378497
No baseball cap.

Was it just the hoodie and glasses? Damn

>>82378321
Scarlet Witch movie with Agatha Harkness, Chthon, and Salem's 7.

°~('-')~°

>>82378531
Should have been for >>82378523

So is the stuff Bucky stole from Stark's car supposed to be the Super Soldier serum?

>>82378538
That'd be cool.

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>>82378235
>>82378256
>director's face at the success of the movie vs the other superhero faceoff movie

>>82378513
But Bozhe moi, dosvidanya, spaceeba, tovarish, suka, even calling people their full names, I'd take anything.

>>82378549
It was the formula for Pepsi Blue.

>>82378335
The comic's funnier when you imagine it with their male movie voices.

>>82378549
Yes. Not a perfect recreation given how unstable the Winter Soldiers were, but still good enough to create Captain America-level soldiers.

>>82378335
Someone post A BLOO BLOO BLOO over that final shot of Tony lying there at the end of the movie.

Am I a bad person for expecting Clint's family to die so he can be closer to the comics?

Also, based Clint getting all up on Stark's face, I loved that.

>>82378488
>Why is Vision wearing clothes?
He is almost as dangerous an existence as Wanda, and even more suspect due to being the AI associated with Ultron. Vision is deliberately trying to look as harmless as he can.

>>82378335
So, this an edit of something? I wanna know what the original looks like if so.

>>82378613
And accomplishing a very Ted Bundy look instead.

>>82378590
>given how unstable the Winter Soldiers were
Well, that may just be a result of their mental conditioning.

>>82376292
Bucky and Falcon Headnodding after Steve kisses Sharon.

>>82378634
They forgot one thing, though.

VITA RAYS, SON

>>82378590

Guess they incorporated stuff from the original script of Captain America III

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THEY DID IT

THE ABSOLUTE MAD MEN

>>82378634
The flashback didn't suggest that they were under mental conditioning.

>>82378631
>And accomplishing a very Ted Bundy look instead.
Well the point is that he is ACTING harmless, and it is easy to tell he is not genuine with what he say and does. Vision is building a fake personality, instead of trying to find his real self.

I can relate. For a while I was told I need to act kind and considerate to rude people for the sake of my career path. But I couldn't fake it. Eventually I realised it is actually easier to just try to BE kind and considerate, rather than just pretending to be. The pretension is actually worse and harder to pull off.

Basically, Vision need to learn about how to actually care about humans, instead of just trying to pretend to be a good human on the surface. Vision's in-universe acting skills sucked.

Movie sucked.

>>82377515
> Clint and Wanda are both permanently done with Tony.

>>82378640
few posts up yours.

>>82377049
Both of those movies were bad, Civil War left out the best parts in the comic, It was gutted to sell a product, and it worked.

>>82378706
Wish they gave him Dr. Manhattan eyes.

>>82378727
>implying the comic was good

>>82378727
>the best parts in the comic
There were no best parts in the comic.

I mean, I guess it was stapled correctly, and in colour, but other than that it was all shit

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>they didn't recruit juan punch man


They could've had this in the bag

Can someone tell me what Tony said during the whole Peter and Aunt May scene?
I watched the Spanish one but obviously I didn't understand it

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>>82376292
>it's another "public turns on superheroes" plot
>Avengers getting shit for Ultron trying to drop a country from the atmosphere
When will Hollywood get tired of this?

>>82378753

Some bullshit about how Peter won a scholarship/grant. It was all an excuse to tell Aunt May so they could talk privately.

>>82378753
He was there to talk to Pete about his grant he applied for through school.

>>82378753
You watched the whole movie in a language you didn't know?

Also it was something about the project funding, and he was telling May that he's helping Peter with his projects and giving him moolah.

>>82376347
Yes. They'd be seen as superheroes. How could you keep them in check? The whole point of superheroes is they're so OP they can deal with other OP individuals.

That black bald chick who followed Tchalla in one scene was fucking hot.

>>82378754
It's more on the Avengers leaving a trail of chaos in spite of taking care of the problem that caused said chaos.

Why is vision cooking in the first place if he can't eat?

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>>82378796
He wanted to make his waifu happy. Instead he ended up looking like this

>>82378796
He likes to cheer up the cute girl upstairs

>>82378796
He's cooking for Wanda.

>>82378796
He weren't cooking for himself he was cooking it for Wanda. As in MCU it would more than likely been a dish served a lot in Sokovia.

>>82378777
She was probably one of the Dora Milaje, his elite wives

>>82378777
>That black bald chick who followed Tchalla in one scene was fucking hot.
In his family tradition his guards are also suppose to be his concubines. But Tchalla put his foot down and rather keep these two roles separate. Smart man.

>>82378796
Can't he?

>>82378783
I feel like the world governments are using the Avengers as scapegoats for those situations spiralling out of control.
Well, the Ultron affair was actually Tony Stark's fault, but the rest were born of government incompetence.

>>82376292
Daily reminder the entire plot would be redundant if there was proper team communication
>Hey Tony someone's trying to reactivate five killer supersoliders like Bucky can we call a truce and stop them
>aight

The End

>>82378692
They were an elite death squad of assassins fanatically loyal to Hydra. By dint of the fact that they're following that ideology at all means that they've been conditioned to some extent. Everyone is, when they're made to believe in something. They're just as likely to kill themselves for Hydra as any of the other most loyal Hydra agents, I assume.

>>82378777
Does she have a name? Okoye?

>>82378170
>>82378186
I'm really interested to see what they do after infinity war

>>82378884

Yeah well IM2's plot would have been redundant if Whiplash just walked into the nearest US Patent Office.

>>82378859
Remember when they tried to nuke New York.

I'm not a scientist but I think that might have done a little more damage than the Avengers.

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>>82377903
wait till she wears yoga pants

>>82378884
Tony was tied by government decree. He had to bring in the outlaws or become one himself, and how does the latter help anybody? He also only had a few hours to do so, and at the time there was still no evidence whatsoever that Bucky wasn't the one who had bombed the building. Tony knew literally everything that was pertinent to the facts. Had Cap told him about the supersoldiers it'd be "Okay, we'll go in and check that out but first we gotta do this the right way and bring you in, we're operating under government sanction now".

Daily reminder that you barely even paid attention to the film because you were too busy rubbing your hands gleefully as you thought "OH WHERE ARE THOSE PLOT HOLES IMMA FIND YOU LITTLE SCAMPS AND POST ALL OVER /CO/ ABOUT YOU!"

>>82378884
>>Hey Tony someone's trying to reactivate five killer supersoliders like Bucky can we call a truce and stop them
No, because the Accord requires that Tony spend 2 month going through UN red tape in order to activate the Avengers. This is why he had to sneak off in the final fight, because he was not suppose to be able to do anything at all. The Accord prevents any urgent disaster from being prevented, the goal of the accord is to let disasters happen, but then have no one to blame for it.

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>>82378924
ANTS

>>82378900
Dark Knight Rises would've been redundant if there was a federal inquiry into corruption in Gotham

>>82378919
I'm patiently waiting until someone takes the Private Teacher video and starts editing it to include Marisa Tomei in there

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>>82378933
ANTS

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>>82378953
ANTMAN

>>82378930
No, he was still "on the mission" of dealing with/capturing Captain America. Hence why he was the one sent to interrogate everyone who was captured to see if they could find out where Steve went. If he spoke about it, he'd probably be able to go to Steve. It's just that he'd probably be accompanied by a group of armed soldiers as well.

>>82378966
>No, he was still "on the mission" of dealing with/capturing Captain America. Hence why he was the one sent to interrogate everyone who was captured to see if they could find out where Steve went. If he spoke about it, he'd probably be able to go to Steve. It's just that he'd probably be accompanied by a group of armed soldiers as well.
He actually TOLD Ross that Bucky was framed. Ross just ignored the evidence supplied. There was simply no intent from the UN to take the threat seriously. Much like real life UN.

If you were the UN, how would you regulate the Avengers without entangling them with red tape or allowing them to run wild and unsupervised, /co/?

>>82378930
I don't think the problem was ever about whether or not it would take too much time for them to act. The problem was that every government "had an agenda". The problem was that they wouldn't be allowed to act if they have to, or if they could, their may be various conditions and restrictions placed upon them. That's how it was framed in the story, wasn't it?

>>82377272
Are you sure you watched the movie?

>>82379010
Yep.
117 countries would never all agree on something like this. The avengers would never act and always be stuck in in a bureaucracy hell.

Do you think we will see Ororo in Black Panther ? I know she is a mutant but maybe they could do the same they did with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, made her a Inhuman or something.

How the hell is Black Panther's actor a 40 year old? Dude looks like the youngest Avenger after Spider-man.

The entire ending was setup for Phase 3

They slipped on a lot of consequences.

>>82379037
He's 40???

Wow.

>>82379037
Black don't crack.

>>82379037
Yeah, him and Falcon look younger than the rest of the team. Black don't crack I guess.

>>82379037
Jesus he looks 20.

>>82379028
>117 countries would never all agree on something like this. The avengers would never act and always be stuck in in a bureaucracy hell.
And they know this. The only benefit the Accords offer isn't less deaths; there would be MORE deaths. The Accords just allow the Avengers to do nothing and have an excuse for doing nothing. And still have a clean conscience because they "followed the rules".

I think Falcon said it outright, that the Accords is just taking away personal responsibility, so people can die without being saved at all.

>>82379061
>>82379054
Like asian guys

>>82379034
Of course not. Her film rights are wholly with Fox. SW and QS's film rights are co owned.

>>82378929
>>82378930

Extenuating circumstances. No one even stopped to consider what a highly respected solider said about an immediate threat to global security. If the UN amendment didn't include a clause about activating the Avengers in case of an immediate threat that's pretty stupid.

>>82379085
>If the UN amendment didn't include a clause about activating the Avengers in case of an immediate threat that's pretty stupid.
The UN doesn't have a clause about activating anything in case of an immediate threat NOW, why would they have one in the Marvel universe? What you are suggesting just couldn't exist in the UN because there isn't any one person who would take that responsibility. You need the UN to vote on it, and that takes weeks if you are lucky.

>>82379085
They hate that respected soldier as much as his superpowered friends and the monsters they've been fighting.
They never wanted to listen to him in the first place.

>>82379085
Yup it would be a sure bet if Cap did end up signing on there would be a lot of amendments made which Tony was more than ready to back.

Which was Widow's original point in the first place. If they signed on they'd at least be able to help to steer and influence the accords.

>live in a world where super spy can have "fake face" technology
>still believe anyone on screen

It was freaking stupid. So next time there is an attack if a random dude walk by and is seen by a camera every police forces on the planet will say he is the one who did it ?

Kinda sucks that its implied BP has no superpowers,. Do we seriously need another Avenger with only tech powers?

>NO ANTMAN THEME PLAYING WHEN HE BECAME GIANT

That would've been amazing to hear

>>82379129
Aside from wakandan magic he never had any power.

>>82379129

>BP
>no superpowers

The guy was running as fast as cars and his acrobatics were only matched by Spidey.

>>82379114
>and that takes weeks if you are lucky
And in a few weeks you could have countries decimated by a super vilain.

>>82379028
>>82379071
I took it to mean another way; that anyone who would die wouldn't be their responsibility. Because it was all allowed by the governments. Framed as an "unfortunate loss" rather than a "casualty resulting from reckless, unsanctioned actions by vigilantes".

>>82379122
>Yup it would be a sure bet if Cap did end up signing on there would be a lot of amendments made which Tony was more than ready to back.
Steve Rogers isn't going to stand for that. He refuse to sign it because of what is currently in it, he isn't going to count on the Accord being neutered later. Steve Rogers think his signature actually mean something. Tony of course, doesn't think his own signature matter at all.

>>82379139
Cap (super soldier) and BP (wakanda bullshit) i could understand but how was bucky able to outrace cars ?

>>82379129
>Kinda sucks that its implied BP has no superpowers,. Do we seriously need another Avenger with only tech powers?
BP is very much in the same league as Bucky and Cap. The scene in the tunnel chase was basically making that blatant.

>>82379114
It wasn't written out yet. If Cap signed, he and Tony would have been involved in writing out the exact rules of how they would act. That's how Tony almost won Steve over. What pushed Steve away was finding out that Wanda was being kept in house-arrest until the accords had been signed; she wasn't being treated as a person, but as a living weapon.

>>82378898
I think they will take a break, handle somethig big as Infinity War must be hard work

>>82379149
>I took it to mean another way; that anyone who would die wouldn't be their responsibility. Because it was all allowed by the governments. Framed as an "unfortunate loss" rather than a "casualty resulting from reckless, unsanctioned actions by vigilantes".
And that's what I mean. This Accord will cost the lives of many innocent people, because the government wanted political appeasement. And the only outcome in signing it is to remove personal responsibility. The Avengers would be following orders and no longer had to care who dies in their watch.

>>82379168
>but as a living weapon.
As her and vision are.

What happen when they lose control or decice to become vilain ?

They are weapons and needs to be controlled.

>>82379164
Bucky got a knock off Super Soldier Serum stuck in him during Zola's experiments, IIRC.

>>82379157
Just the opposite. It wasn't even the final thing. Just signing first would show Cap was willing to cooperate. Revisions would be allowed afterward. Certainly, in a world like theirs where aliens invasions and secret organizations dedicated to destabilizing the world and are fully capable of doing so with the advanced technology available, more concessions than what would normally be allowed in reality would be given.

>>82379168
>It wasn't written out yet. If Cap signed, he and Tony would have been involved in writing out the exact rules of how they would act.
Signing something before you know what is going to be in it is even WORSE. That's crazy and I would never have signed.

>>82379164
Bucky's a super soldier as well, genius.

>>82379179
But you guys didn't say anything? You were talking about how they would "never" be allowed to do anything?

>>82379157
That's why he was talking about there having to be safeguards put in place, yes he wasn't willing to sign the accords as they stood but would've been willing to sign up to an amended set of accords.

It's like >>82379168 says he only walked out once he found out about Wanda's house arrest.

>>82379190
>Just signing first would show Cap was willing to cooperat
Just signing first would show Cap is a retard. No one who knows anything about how laws work would be willing to put their signature on something that is entirely unknown to them. That is simply unacceptable and is a recipe for disaster.

>>82379191
They weren't signing on the exact conditions yet, though? I believe they were only signing to state that they would begin cooperating with the UN.

>>82379211
>But you guys didn't say anything? You were talking about how they would "never" be allowed to do anything?
We say "never" because that is the reality of the UN. That is what the UN is for, to stop things happening. It had been the case for decades, and isn't changing any time soon.

>>82379114
Because the UN is a peacekeeping organisation that only acts as a mediator. They do not take sides in war as that would compromise their apolitical stance. A real life example would be NATO, which does demand that member states come to the aid if one of them is attacked.

>>82379229
>They weren't signing on the exact conditions yet, though? I believe they were only signing to state that they would begin cooperating with the UN.
In what kind of vague terms is that? "Willing to cooperate with the UN"? In return for what?

>>82379247
As a lead in. Tony said it himself to Steve that it wasn't yet finalized. Signing at that point was just a show of solidarity.

>>82379221
But they already received a copy of it from Ross earlier in the movie.

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>>82378898
Get the F4 back
then the new wild ride begins

>>82379037
How the fuck? He looks like he's in his 20s.

>>82379211
>they would "never" be allowed to do anything
Because this is how the UN works. It is specialized into being stuck or taking decades to do things that should takes weeks or less.
You can't have a "world governement" if you are still stuck with leaders and community from culture as different as Western, African, Arabs and Asian culture. It will never work with only hope. If you want things to change you will have to force it on them.

This is why countries like the USA (Middle east), England (Middle east), Russia (eastern europe) and France (Africa) don't freaking care about the UN when it comes to war. If they had to wait for the UN green light they would never act.

They now that action must be taken and that sometime to save a life you ahve to take one quick.

>>82379260
>As a lead in. Tony said it himself to Steve that it wasn't yet finalized. Signing at that point was just a show of solidarity.
>>82379260
>But they already received a copy of it from Ross earlier in the movie.
Either way it is retarded and no one who is sane would sign it. The only reason anyone even sign it at all is because they believe they can break the rules later if they wanted. Like Black Widow and, eventually, Tony himself. No one actually believed in the Accords, the only reason Team Cap refused to sign is because they would rather be honest about their disagreement. Because Team Cap doesn't want to sign with their fingers crossed.

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>>82379246
>UN
>doing anything
With what army?

>>82379304
>With what army?
Well technically the Avengers IS that army. But of course, the intent was to make Avengers useless without officially disbanding them.