Pups of Liberty

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>didn't even provide a link

look it up.

>>82359581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKdc9429GwM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czm_P3Zo0bM

Hand-drawn educational shorts by a number of industry veterans. Sold so poorly they put it up for free.

The animation was good. That's really all there is to say about it.

>>82359581
>being this helpless
Nigga how are you even breathing.

>>82359677
Dogtanian crossover when?

>>82359704
>>being this helpless
>Nigga how are you even breathing.
nah at all


>>82359634
edgy

I think it would make a great kid show and well made.

I do agree with what was said in the old threads. If the purpose is to be educational, drop the cute puns and just use their real names and places. If you make Thomas Jefferson a dog, but still call him Thomas Jefferson, it allows you to have your cute show while making it easier for kids to learn. As it stands, some of the pun names are weak and puns generally confuse kids anyway.

Im not trying to be edgy im telling you not to be lazy.

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Forbidden Love

>>82360504
I'm not sure she'd like the barbs.

>>82360504
She's 12 dude

>>82361010
And it's the 1700s. Give her two years tops and nobody would bat an eye.

>>82359727
kys

>>82361010
She's hot and I'm pretty sure back then it was okay at that age.

>>82359677
>dat way she drank her tea

Be right back, gonna go cut my deviant dick off.

>>82361010
She's 84 in dog years.

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The pups of liberty were all Diamond Dogs

>>82361121
I bet she likes it ruff.

>>82361010
Irresponsible dad sends her to stay with a guy called "Bone-jammin'".

>>82361330
Funny thing is, Franklin was a known womanizer in both the old world and the new, so calling him "Bone-Jammin'" wouldn't be far off.

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>>82359427
>tfw they'll never be a third one

>>82362137
Frankly, I was very surprised there was a second. I knew about the first one for years and the second one literally came out of nowhere.

>>82359427
SOME FOLKS WERE BORN

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>>82359427

>>82361292
www.youtube.com/watch?v=otaWQIcTodo

>>82362779
That's a South American college test animation.

Let's start a drawing thread right now.

>>82363064
That requires people with talent viewing the thread. I don't have any talent. Conventional wisdom would indicate nobody else does, either.

>>82361330
>>82361409
>Bonejammin being a total horndog
>drops some papers and makes Anne bend over to pick it up
>has her pull a bone out of his pocket
>asks her to get a stepladder and grab a book off the top shelf so he can stand under
I'm always having these drawfag ideas, but have no artistic ability.

>>82363116
Well that sucks.

>>82363064
Lonbluewolf has already drawn a bunch of images with the characters, although it would be nice to see more

It's about disturbing how they asign a specific type of animal to represent diffrent countries.

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>>82362640
>that chalk drawing
L-lewd!

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>>82360504

>>82359427
Needs a new episode.

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>>82364137
>forbidden interspecies romance

>>82361292
>Pups of the Patriots

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>>82362779
This is giving me ideas

>>82362640
this looks more like math not history.

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>>82366605
Is a simple equation.

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>>82361330
>>82361409
>>82362640
>>82363164

>>82367161
Her dad? Huh.

>>82362779
This boner.

>>82367161
love me some Airplane!

>>82359677
>dat smooth animation
>those puns
Fug, this would have been my jam as a ankle biter.

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>>82359677
when she's legal, of course

anyone have that picture that shows how anne gets the role at the audition

>>82360929
I've thought about it and think that if cats were actually evolved to speak I'd imagine they would have bred out the whole barb thing or even have elective surgery to get rid of the barbs.

>>82367161
Benjamin 'bone jamming' Franklin actually liked his girls older. https://www.swarthmore.edu/SocSci/bdorsey1/41docs/51-fra.html

Patrician taste through and through

>>82368482
>https://www.swarthmore.edu/SocSci/bdorsey1/41docs/51-fra.html

Why was this man not president?

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>>82362779
aww shit! I remember that thread, I saved a bunch of stuff

>>82368791
can you post some more please.

>>82359677
is cute

>>82361330
Worse when you consider Franklin was kind of a libertine in real life.

>>82359677
>>82369744
cute but those designs sure are generic
smoothly animated but uninterestingly posed

maybe I’m just being pretentious though because it was cute/10

>>82368312
what do you mean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npu3VnYs3IA

>>82359427
>>82359677

So who are the slaves?

>>82371197
The apes

>>82371197
Monkeys

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>>82371197
African wild dogs

>>82371197
dogs

>>82368630
He had other responsibilities, like inventing the lightning rod, the fire station, and the library.

>>82359427
I come from a country where our most celebrated achievement is getting massacred on the orders of the British, and learning about all the shitty stuff we did to the natives is part of the highschool curriculum,

so such bold-faced and sincere propaganda rubs me the wrong way

>>82376628
>massacred
yeah, that's why our country is called the Colony of British Columbia
>the shitty stuff we did to the natives
They did shitty stuff to the colonizers too. The thing that most people ignore about the Native Americans is that there were many different kinds of them. So yes, at the first Thanksgiving some Natives and some Pilgrims got along, but there were also some tribes who didn't give a fuck about making friends with white people. Since all Native Americans look the same the Pilgrims thought they were being betrayed, and since all white people look the same, the Natives thought they were being betrayed.
>such bold-faced and sincere propaganda rubs me the wrong way
10/10 bait, made me reply

Are there any lewd requests left from last time?
People were loving this.

>>82377374
More of Anne with that cat soldier

>>82377374
more big booty African wild dog bitches

>>82377374
Anne doing things with a bone that resembles oral pleasure. Maybe have the bone suggestively sticking out of the man's lap.

>>82377595
This but replace bone with the Declaration of Independence

>>82377595
>>82377808
https://e621.net/post/show/727020/2015-anne_kennel-anthro-armwear-blush-bow-butt-can
that was literally made for an old pups of liberty thread

>>82359427
Same thing /co/ thinks about any show. They want to fuck that dog.

>>82377938
>those Martha Speaks threads
Good times. And they spawned amazing porn too.
I wish those times would come back.

>>82368482
Apparently the barbs don't cause pain, female cats are just some loud fuckers. In an experiment a scientist stimulated a female cat in heat and she would yell even with a completely smooth glass cylinder.

>>82377975
The barbs cause ovulation in female cats.

>>82378001
They are not needed.

>Ovulation can be induced in estrual queens physically or, more reliably, hormonally to produce a luteal phase (diestrus or metestrus) of ~45 days. Physical methods include mating with a vasectomized tom (very effective) or inserting a sterile swab or glass rod into the vagina. The latter should be performed repeatedly for best results. Hormonal methods include administration of human chorionic gonadotropin at 500 IU/cat or GnRH at 25 µg/cat.

One hypothesis is that they serve to scrap semen from other males increasing the chance of his own sperm. Sort of like why human penis is shaped like it is.

>>82359677
>Hand-drawn educational shorts by a number of industry veterans. Sold so poorly they put it up for free.
This seems to be a common thing for a lot of 2D veterans right now. They have immense amounts of talent but then end up working on things like Penn Zero or Pups of Liberty where the work fails compared to 20-something year olds creating lightning-in-a-bottle shows.

It feels kinda bad, I don't know why. I wish these artists who have been in the industry so long and have tons of talent would get the work they deserve. I guess all we can do is look forward to Klaus and that studio's future projects.

>>82369963
That's cute.

>>82377494
I second this.

>>82377494
I want this ship.

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>>82372810
Those look adorable as fuck.

>>82371404
>>82371404
Would it kill you to be any less predictable, /pol/?

>>82379425
what there just about the same thing.

Bump for liberty

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>>82359939
at lese there not as bad as this guys puns god I hate him.>>82359944

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How about Native American dogs?

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>>82376516
gonna need some more African wild dog slaves

>>82359939
Non-American here, so I'm not too familiar with the persons and this is pretty confusing. I mean it's easy enough to look it up but I can't imagine this very worthwile as your first lesson on american history...
Also something irks me with the portrayl of americans as dogs and english as cats as I'm fairly sure that most americans saw themselfs as english but I guess that#s for /his/ to discuss.

>>82376516
Gonna need more African wild dog slaves

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>>82381248
Coyotes or wolves.
Personally I'd save wolves for the Russians.
I also remember somebody mentioning in the last thread that the French should be rabbits and the Spaniards chickens and I like this idea.
The idea of a bloody revolution perpetrated by bunnies and conquistador chickens makes me smile.
Now who are the Germans?

>>82379670
Meant to add >>82372199 as well, don't know wtf happened.

>>82381969
Friend I think you know what the germans are.

Oink oink.

>>82359677
Pretty cute. Shame it didn't do well, but most good things don't. See: Cats Don't Dance

>>82376852
Yeah what happened with the natives and colonists is way more complicated than, "Natives are peace loving nature children, colonists are satan." but not a lot of people bother to go deeper than the stuff they learn as kids.

Like I'm not saying that what went down wasn't bad by any means but that I think its almost insulting to the native americans to reduce their role in history to hapless, doomed, child-like victims. They deserve the full story told, the good and the bad, and its a shame we won't know all of it because a lot of NA native american civilizations kept records on wood, or orally.

>>82376516
That was funny, but Jefferson's affair with Sally happened after his wife's death.

>>82381765
Well a big part of the independence movement was saying that Americans had become, by their generations of separation from Europe, a new race deserving a new nation to represent them because nationalism was in its birthing pains at the time.

So cats becoming dogs makes sense in a weird sort of way, but I agree that between the pun names and the animal metaphor things get a bit muddied.

>>82359677
I showed this to my class and one student answered minutemutt on his test. I know he knew the answer and was just being a cheeky brat so I gave hime half credit.

One kid did answer pack for who delegates vote in place for. I knew he didn't but still.

There's less porn of this than I thought there would be

>>82383207
People have to be aware that something exists for there to be drawings made for it. This is as obscure as obscure gets.

>>82383207
The first time it popped up, threads were deleted before anything could really get drawn, so at this point, people might be like "what's the point".

>>82368482
The barbs are used to get the female to start ovulating.

>>82378278

I thought that was official for a second

>>82383756
The very first threads I made got extremely political. It wasn't until the episodes were put on YouTube that people began making art. As I've said, I knew about the first short for years and made several threads on here quite some time ago.

>>82359677
>a female apprentice
More revisionist than the fact that everyone is a dog or cat.

>>82362779
>deleted
>it's just a bone
>that's even the whole joke

Shame that cats didn't get much screen time in this.

>>82383796
see >>82377975
>>82378246

>>82386057
>Bedroom. Now.

>>82382146
I would think they'd be more like boars. And the Scandanavians could be walruses or something.

Angry. Viking. Walruses.

>>82381842
>>82381621

There were some more imagined shenanigans with Sally and Thomas in previous threads but nothing ever came of it.

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>>82359677
>Give me liberty, or give me dog breath

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>>82386325

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>>82386531
Need female version of this.

>>82359427
I would

>>82359677
>Sold so poorly they put it up for free.
How did they market it? Towards public schools so they would show it in class but no district cared, or made it a direct to video release that saw no sales at Best Buy?

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>>82367117
Sines don't work like that REEEEEE

>>82387894
Schools. You can still find the teacher's edition for sell, which has extra stuff and activities.

>>82361779
Words cannot express how much it pisses me off that this artform is dying.

>>82359677
If the dogs weren't allowed to vote or form laws, then why do they have assemblies?

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>>82386531

>>82389916
Who said those assemblies were legal?

>>82382146
What a funny way to spell British, chav.

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>>82390363
Not enough angry or skullcap

>>82391413
There was a General Assembly in Virginia since the 1600s

>>82389916
Generally to piss about how pissed they were.

>>82361330
I know what I want jam my bone into.

>>82376516
>>Miss Houndings, polish my giant bone
>Mistah Jefferhound, that's disgusting sir!
>>No, I mean I have a large mammoth bone in my office I need polishing.
>Oh, sorry sir...
>>Also suck my dick.

>>82382290
>implying it happened at all
The only 'proof' ever presented from the time of his life were attacks by his political enemies, m8.

>>82359427
Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuute

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Thread is dying already.

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>>82393324

>>82393324
what is there to talk about? It has good animation, spews the 3/4 truths of most history classes and has bad puns.

Shame that this is probably one of the few 2D projects flopped but what can you do.

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>>82393340
>saving thumbnails

>>82389664
Efficiency is everything.

>>82393396
At this point this thread is only here for drawfags to do lewds.

>>82393324
she's so goddamn adorable

I just want to cuddle her

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Oh, shit!

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>>82393650

>>82359427
Well, I suppose America's snore-inducing history hadn't been repackaged as dogs, yet.

>>82393706
Same can be said of anyone's history really.

>>82393733
But that wouldn't be contrarian enough.

>>82393733
No other country that isn't a dictatorship worships incredibly mundane shit as drafting the constitution or angrily tossing merchandise into the water the way America does, though.

>>82393650
>>82393666
Great more cute dogs and shitty name manglings , can't wait...

>>82393733
I dunno, if they covered Jackosn's life without any puns it would be pretty amazing, or Theodore Roosevelts

>>82393840
>the Constitution is mudane shit
haha stay mad that your shitty peasant country hasn't done anything interesting ever.

>>82393840
That describes pretty much every living nation at some point.

>>82393847
Hey if we get dog waifus they can pun everything up for all I care.

>>82393929
>being this much of an American stereotype

Well, I suppose the sorcery of being able to use written language must be something special to you lot.

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>>82394013
>being this predictable

>>82393840
Well it was that or point out the king was a batshit insane monarch that called people peacocks and raise the question why no one bothered to overthrow him yet.

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>>82394117
Nice 5-star, lightning-defense/top tier comeback.

so I can assume that 80% of the posters in this thread want to fuck the dog girl?

>>82394564
>OH I'M SORRY! I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA!

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>>82395160
... do you not?

>>82395081
>he tries to pretend that his irrelevant shit stain country is worth anything while posting in an
>American website
>with an American cartoon
>in a thread about an American cartoon
>detailing the American revolution

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>>82361199

underfuckingrated

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>>82395339
>he's posting on the internet
>Invented by a Finn
>using technology developed by the soviets
>first concieved by the Germans
>having, on average, worse internet providers than some third world countries
>hurr united states only relevant country in the world

>founded by a bunch of hillbillys escaping from their way of being ever so slightly threatened
>only relevant thanks to international events such as the constant quarreling of European countries
>still submerged in primitive practices
>hurr muh freedums

And since we are playing your game I'm gonna write your answer before you:
>more blind patriotism
>commentary that shows ignorance of your own history
>ad hominem galore

>>82395339
Oh look, it's information, I know your kind isn't used to this sort of thing but here it goes:
https://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/US/CA
https://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/US/AT
https://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/US/NO
https://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/US/DE
https://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/US/NL
https://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/US/DK
https://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/US/CH

>>82395881
>according to this Thailand has a .7 unemployment rate
Not even him but this reeks of a buzzfeed meme website, dude.

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Cut with the shit flinging and post cute patriotic dog

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>>82396888
The redcats are better.

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Anyway, I can say with certitude that this thread will not survive the night. It's been fun!

Looks great. Wish it got bigger. And who cares if the puns are bad, it's clearly meant for -8th grade

>>82399153
>it's clearly meant for -8th grade.
yeah no.

>>82393650
>Ep 3
YES

>>82395678
This asspain is divine.

Decent animation and I like the design of the female but the cats vs dogs thing is sort of lost on me here. Liberty kids was a better show and seemingly pulled way less punches than this did. Liberty's kids was more for education it seems. Tho both series seem to be really sanitized.

>>82393840
Most other developed countries are over a thousand years old

>>82393650
Ayyyy

Bump for freedom

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>>82359427

pun/10

>>82391599
sensiblechuckle.gif

>>82387187
Yeah, I hate that too.

>>82404692
I'm not American
What's the actual line?
Give me death?

>>82404743
Of course.

>>82378290
>>82378278
>>82383989
What is this if not official? Who else would go to the trouble of animating that? Animation is hard.

>>82404818
I was made by some southamerican animation student.

>>82404783
Used to be you can't show stuff like death or broken glass in kids shows
I would have thought it were more relaxed now since shows to show death all the time but they might have had a PG rating or something

>>82378598
>the work they deserve
>2d veterans should be making shitty flash-animated hasbro cash ins
>20 year olds should be making beautiful traditional animation extolling the foundational principles of American society
:^)

>>82404922
It's important USA history being replaced with a shitty pun. There is no excuse.

>>82404892
I knew Latin America had to be good for something other than tacos.

>>82404922
That's bullshit, I was getting the 'liberty or death' line when I was in the second grade.

>>82404978
Yeah as a non American I didn't know what a lot of the things they were referring to were. Like I had to ask people on here what canine sense was supposed to refer to

I would have liked it if anne went through actual historical names and quotes after the Ep like she does briefly at the start but specifically for that ep

>>82405156
It would be better if they didn't use those puns at all, them being cartoon dogs and not showing on-screen dead is enough to make it kid-friendly.

>>82368630
Because he wasn't born here?

>>82381969
Definitely coyotes. They're too uniquely American to be anything else.

>>82393650
"Development piece" might not actually mean that it's in development. Just that it was at one point, and they're sharing what they have.

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Why the fuck is traditional animation a dying art?
I seriously don't get it.

Over a century of developing this beautiful artform and now no major studio wants to touch traditional animation with a ten foot pole

>>82406600
A lot of mediocre 2D films underperformed in quick succession, at about the same time Shrek was making bank. Plus, as long as it's colorful and noisy and keeps the kiddos quiet, audiences don't care how it's made.

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>>82359427

Cats are the bad guys

this was actually pretty cute

>>82406600

Zootopia has ensured it will NEVER return.

>>82406600
3D movies sell more and cost less to make. The end. Children are incapable of giving a fuck, and they're the reason these films are made.

>>82406968

>Byron Howard grew up on Didney classics
>grew up to be a traditional animator
>now he's helping to dig 2d animation's grave

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The lack of porn is disgusting

>>82391599
>WURF?!
>>You heard me correctly.

>>82408304
Lonbluewolf did his/her tastefully lewd part. Hardly anybody else stepped up. Aside from the Mr. Jefferson thing.

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>>82408304

>sexualizing characters from an educational kid's TV series

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>>82408869
We've done this many times before already

>>82376516

l-lewd

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>>82406493
They did similar things before Pups 2 was announced, and the facebook page is still posting new things. Considering they last posted in January before all of the updates this week, I'm convinced they are actually working on a third one.

>>82389916
Because that's how people managed their local affairs before the Internet?

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>>82377975
Who the fuck is fucking cats with glass cylinders?

>>82408869
First day on the Internet?

>>82406600
A lot of 2d movies were fucking bad back to back while 3D movies were on the rise.

Not to mention that 3D is cheaper than 2d and kids just don't care as long as they're entertained

Liberty bump

>>82391599
>>I have another bone I want you to polish...
>Where's this one?
>...that wasn't a bone.
>>And you polished it real nicely.

>>82393650
>>82393666
I wish there was something we could do to get this more recognition. Traditional animation is an artform that needs to make a comeback.

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>>82412652
>they're still doing puns
Who the fuck is in charge of this shitshow?
>>82412953
I think some slavic studio is coming out with something pretty big and traditionally animated soon.

I'm getting psyched for the 4th of July, and I don't even do anything on the 4th of July except make hot dogs or hamburgers.

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>>82412965
Embrace the puns.

>>82413015
>I don't even do anything on the 4th of July except make hot dogs

Are you one of the animators?

>>82413970
kek

>>82376516
She's cute

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my contribution

>>82414055
I don't get it.

>>82414119
It's something that was made a long time ago, so it's not new. And it's a reference to another comic.

>>82406726
No, they're just British, there where British guys who supported the US becoming independent.

>>82414119

Go read a webcomic called three panel soul

>>82414119
YouMustBeNewHere.jpg

>>82414055

Kek.

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>>82414096
of course, you furfags love to jack your chode off to any cartoon animal even if they're 12 years old like Anne here.

>>82414172
The entire thing? No thank you.

>>82377975
Who in gods name funds this research? and how can I get money for doing equality stupid shit?

>" He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions."

When will we get the scene when the dogs slather hate on the natives?

>>82395678
What even is this?
The Internet as we know it was developed and prototyped in the United States as DARPA net.
Saying it used tech from the soviets as vauge as fuck, you could go back as far as to say all modern computers were invented with tech from the Austro-Hungarians as the person that invented one of the most important parts for them was born there.

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>>82415378
Any company that has money to burn and has a large research team literally throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks.

>>82415378
>>82416266

Given that feline reproductive systems are usually similar it stands to reason that this would be valuable research in artificial insemination of endangered big cats.

It might be esoteric to you but it might be vital to others.

>>82416450
I'm referring more how horse butts gave way to modern liquid soap dispensers.

>>82416468
Modern soap dispensers still use the basic pump design, the horse anus dispensers are probably being used in large several hundred thousand dollar machines, if they do exist.
\

>>82416611
Still a bit of a stretch to go from anus to industry.

>>82414055
my sides

>>82389664
When has an art form ever truly been lost to time?

>>82406600
Kids don't care as long as they're entertained.

And 2D movies were shitting the bed when 3D movies were on the rise combined with the fact that 3D doesn't cost as much to make

>>82406600
3d is faster

>>82418655
Once you have the digital infrastructure, sure. Problem is, most companies have to start from scratch with each new movie. Technology advanced and the tools they had before get old. Zootopia had to develop their own fur software from scratch and that slowed down production significantly. If it were a 2D movie, they could have just drawn the fur on the characters and sped production along.

>>82419427
I don't think it make much sense comparing the two given a big budget 3D movie is going to cost at least as much as a 2D in the end, the problem being that the small protects that used to be the average animators' bread and butter are gone.

>>82407069
>>82410199
>>82417786
3D costs a fuckton more than 2D. 3D is only more profitable on the long run because you can reuse the assets so it's actually more convenient for series and even then it depends (if you have a different setting for every episode/installment you'll need to make more assets so it's better to use 2D in those cases).

2D animation has already been perfected so the only reason it's expensive at all is the lack of interest.

>>82359427
She's like 12 isn't she?

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>>82421888

>>82389664

It isn't dying, it's just being put onto non-physical media.

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They posted this a few hours ago.

>>82421888
Did you even read the thread?

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this... animation...

why must such an art form be doomed to perish

>>82423486

Really?

>>82423486
>all this talent wasted on this shit
I wonder is this the equivalent of a money laundering scheme to put bread on animators' tables.

>>82406600
I fell you, anon. This >>82404921 is so life-like, and smooth.

>>82424336
It's not like WB and Disney are placing an emphasis on 2D outside of the usual tweened Flash shit, so they've really got nothing else outside of passion projects and the occasional commercial. An animator who had worked on The Thief and the Cobbler had to do commercials for Abilify to fund his short film.

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>>82425168
Huh, I knew there was a reason why I waifu'd a fucking depression commercial character.

>>82425168
>An animator who had worked on The Thief and the Cobbler had to do commercials for Abilify to fund his short film.

I know you probably mean someone else but isn't that pretty much Richard Williams's life story?

>>82425984
Most of the money Dick Williams made from his commercial work did end up going into the production of The Thief, although yeah I was talking about Neil Boyle and his film The Last Belle. A lot of contemporary 2D animators worth their salt now mostly work on ads, music videos or other promo work.

>>82424242
They've been posting all sorts of things on there recently. Most of the behind-the-scenes videos are older than that,

It's cool I guess. Awaiting porn.

>>82393340
>Thumbnail
What am I paying you for?

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>>82406600
Japan is still keeping it going and actually advancing by combining digital effects and hand drawn though they will be swallowed by 3D as soon as they figure out how to make it look good.

>>82424336
I really don't understand why all the veterans try and make the most boring mundane shit. Is it because they're old and don't want to make anything else? They could seriously do something really cool.

>>82428485
>that .webm
I like the idea of that scene but there's something wrong about the execution that I can't quite put my finger on.

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>>82429928
I don't know what could be the problem.

>>82428563
>Is it because they're old and don't want to make anything else?

Probably, lot of the bigger projects won't go anywhere and most probably are in this for genuine love of the craft itself but love doesn't pay the mortgage or the car repair bill.

>>82410199
>3D is cheaper
its really not

>>82431360
This
Green Lantern TAS cost 1 million per episode

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The metaphor of Americans as Dogs and the British as Cats doesn't make much sense since the colonists still considered themselves British and even after the war still considered themselves Anglos.

It'd make more sense for the German Hessians to be cats since they're a foreign group.

Of course, making the Germans cats moves it more into Maus territory.

>>82359427
That Fuchur did not complete his work.

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>>82431360
This is very true. In fact, 3D animation tends to cost more if you want it to actually look good, because you have to build all the models, environments, software, etc. Things that could have been covered in about a dozen drawings have to be painstakingly recreated in 3D for a cg movie.Its even worse when you have to consider making a bunch of unique characters and such.

Traditional animation is more often than not cheaper than 3D. The main difference is that most executives began to believe that 2D won't sell in the early 2000s , and they refuse to bring it back in any substantial way. This is mostly in part to Pixar making masterpiece after masterpiece while all of Disney's attempts at 2D films became more and more creatively bankrupt. That stark contrast is what started giving 2D a bad name in the industry.

At this point, even if they did bring it back, 3D has become such a major standard that 2D won't sell anymore unless it can REALLY wow audiences. It has become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The only real way 2D animation could sell again is if they pushed the boundaries even further. If Disney could replicate the look of Klaus' trailer, I could see 2D making a comeback then.

https://vimeo.com/126287950 Here is said trailer.

>>82432873
It says that's 3D/CG underneath the video though. It does look like 2D and I'm pretty sure that the guy is.
2D still can improve a lot. It's just that the big studios aren't pushing it. Stuff like this needs to be recognized.

>>82433420
Nah, it's all 2D. Even the backgrounds. However computer filtering is used to get that sweet ass lighting effect and help push that painted look.

>>82433537
There's a lot that can be done to 2D to make it look really stunning. Not even Disney understands this. Their last 2 2D movies looked the same as they always have. They don't think they should increase that technology but others are starting to do it.

>>82432744
But he did, didn't he? I followed that thread very closely.

>>82406600
It's a vicious cycle
>2D loses favor
>3D becomes more popular
>less people trained to work in 2D
>more people trained to work in 3D
>3D artists are easier to hire
>2D artists are harder to hire
>more 3D movies get made
>2D loses favor
>less people trained to work in 2D
>more people trained to work in 3D
And so on.

The only selling factor of 2D in this day and age is novelty, and that's not worth the risk and effort of assembling a team that can actually make something.

>>82409707

>still posting new things

So is the Dan vs. page...

>>82433912
What was he drawing? Did he post it?

>>82432873

Now I wanna see that movie when it comes out

>>82433983
The Dan vs. page isn't posting about Dan vs. That's the difference.

>>82434050
Sure, it's on paheal and his pixiv. Did he promise to do any more?

Final bump
There's no way this will survive another day

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>>82438525
I've literally said that before. It continued to surprise me.

>>82438525
nah your wrong it's gonna keep going

>>82438608
God I love all those little details

I think you'll see more traditional animations for short stories by Disney or those film festival artsy shorts

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Before...

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>>82440226
...and after.

>>82440236
>dat saw
Never know when you might need to cut up a dead body.

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Traditionally animated or not, the Boston Massacre sequence was just poorly done.

>>82440676

I actually thought they were going to do that scene the original way

>>82440676
I find it odd, like there's a team of very good animators but the storyboarder just phones it in. Doesn't help the script is pretty bad.

>>82377975
>>82378246
And here I was thinking "catfucker" was an insult, not a job description.

>>82362640
Nice, who made this?

>>82406600
It's the public perception. For some reason, the public has allowed itself to view 3D animation as an all-ages kind of thing. The amount of adults who are openly enthousiastic about things like Frozen is ridiculous. I used to visit 9Gag during the time it was popular, and it was filled to the brim with this stuff. The same goes for WALL-E, Up, etc. etc.

I guess many of the people who turned out to be influential in the market (i.e., our generation) grew up watching nearly exclusively sappy Disney variations of fairy tales, with song and dance numbers, aimed squarely at children with very little "edgy" humour for adults. Then came the 3D movies aimed at all ages. And of course it's all mostly humour, with a rather minimal focus on heavier themes, which just makes it more convincing that it's for adults, paradoxically.

>>82440459
Or remove an infected limb

>>82441949
Yep that's the reason. It all changed with Shrek that had cursing and lots of adult humor.

>>82440676
>implying the Red Coats shot first

>>82443782
To be fair, that was just a warning shot.

i prefer the pupstance edition

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>the amount of puns in this show

>>82447035
Puns are the highest form of comedy

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>>82361010

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>>82428485
Yeaaah, all im seeing is special effects shrouding the lack of actual barebones animation. and how many eps of lip flapping lead up to this "advancement."

>>82448257
That's from Unlimited Blade Works which is very high quality all the way through. You can't say that doesn't look good.

>>82428485

I don't like anime.

>>82448335
Yeaah I guess. But I wouldnt go putting it on a towering pedestal

>>82446177
awwww

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>>82448457
I never put it on a towering pedestal, dude. I just said that it shows that you can do other stuff with 2D than just drawing.

>>82448478
They're killers one and all. How much cat blood do they have on their hands?

>>82449627
>you will never see Pups of Liberty do The Patriot with Ghost Dog butchering Redcats

What do you think the third short, if it's made, will be about?

>>82451705
Adventures of BoneJammin Franklin fucking busty MILFs on diplomatic missions with Anne trying to prevent international incidents while teaching the complex underpinnings of the new American international relations.

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>>82453701
I'll never understand why they named him that. Of all the puns in the world, they went with that.

>>82453952
What's another dog pun that works?
They named in that because this is for little kids who won't think of something like that.

>>82412965
>not liking the puns
its a dog version of the American revolution, don't need to take it seriously

>>82454043
I think that anon just wanted to avoid a pun that alludes to Benjamin's bone

>>82396098
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2129rank.html

it's gone up but shit checks out.

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>>82384968

>>82361292
Star Wolf?

>>82367667

family nudity is pretty common in most cultures.

>>82453952

bone jam in.

describes who he was as a person pretty well. pretty sure he joined the revolution just to get laid, historically speaking.

>>82393340
Does anyone have a full size version of this?

>>82448257
It was like, episode three. Just because your entire knowledge of anime comes from the hundreds of episodes long shonen adaptions aimed at literal children doesn't mean that is all anime is.

>>82458535
Everyone who's posted it has been banned

>>82458535
Just look up pups of Liberty on something

>>82456680
>Big booty wild dog slaves.
Best thing to come of all this.

>>82460573

Yes this

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>>82456680
>>82460573

Will they actually have slaves in this

I mean it is a children's cartoon but didn't they have slaves in that liberty kids cartoon

>>82460573
>>82456680
I'm genuinely surprised about the lack of raceplay white man on black woman porn there is in the world given that is often how it actually happened in the past. I would think white slave masters ravishing black slave women would be a big enough seller.

>>82462468
Because that's something that will make people very uncomfortable even in porn.

>>82462533
Dude, raceplay is a big seller. I'm surprised you've never heard of Blacked. It's all the rage on /tv/.
And by "all the rage" I mean one anon spams it every night.

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>>82462576
>Bleached.com isn't a thing
There is no justice in this world.

I want to see dark skinned native women getting plowed by superior white dicks is all. It's porn AND a history lesson!

>>82462576
That's just big black dicks going into girls which is a popular thing for some reason. Race doesn't actually play into it that much and especially not in that way.

>>82462701
>That's just big black dicks going into girls which is a popular thing for some reason.
>for some reason
It's called raceplay. And now you understand.

>>82462729
There's nothing slavey about it though.

>>82462770
That doesn't matter. Raceplay isn't necessarily about slavery. Raceplay is any interracial sexual act where the difference in race isn't simply incidental, usually they play on stereotypes or try to make situation feel wrong in the kinky way.

>>82462863
I don't see that in the white on black stuff I see. Blacked is always about some black boss calling his employee over to fuck or something like that.

>>82462952
An entire website dedicated to black men fucking white women isn't simply incidental.

>>82462986
Yeah but it's not slavery type stuff. That's the kind of stuff that makes people uncomfortable.

>>82463012
>Yeah but it's not slavery type stuff.
Dude, I just explained this to you. Raceplay isn't necessarily about slavery, like, at all. Why would you even think that?

An base black man sullying a pure white woman, cheating on her black boyfriend and being filled with the black man's superior seed... that is OBVIOUSLY raceplay.

>>82463095
I'm talking about the slave play you were talking about initially and how that's too weird for most people.