Captain America Civil War

i've been watching the b-roll and piecing together where the shots were in the movie. pretty interesting to see what was practical and what wasn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsBkGozRtDA

OFFICIAL AVENGERS POWER RANKING
1. Vision
2. Scarlet Witch
3. Hulk
4. Thor
5. ANTS
7. Black Panther
8. Spider-Man
9. Iron Man
10. Captain America
11. Falcon
12. Winter Soldier
13. Hawkeye
14. Black Widow
999. War Machine

So how do the reasons for Cap and Tony fighting compare to the reasons for Batman and Superman fighting in BvS?

All the fight scenes in this movie were 10/10

>>82348220
>vision over scarlet witch
>scarlet witch beat vision, sent him so far down into the earth he came to the airport halfway through the fight.

doesn't compute

Rank the MCU.

>>82348196
>Choose your team in imax
Does imax literally let me choose which Avengers I want to side with Cap and which with Tony? That's pretty impressive.

>>82348228

Cap and Tony have actual reasons beyond poetry and it rhymes, so Civil War's work way better.

>>82348220
OFFICIAL AVENGERS SUFFERING RANKING
1. Scarlet Witch
2. Winter Soldier
3. Captain America
4. Iron Man
5. Hulk
6. Black Widow
7. War Machine
8. Black Panther
9. Vision
10. Thor
11. Falcon
12. Hawkeye
13. ANTS
14. Spider-Man

>>82348242
Captain America Movies > Iron Man Movies > Avengers Movies > Hulk Movie > Thor Movies

>>82348220
I'd put War Machine just below Iron Man

>>82348228
Cap was an ass the whole movie, Tony snapped in the end and went full autism mode

bretty gud

>>82348196
Cap was wrong.

There, I said it.

Cap lost his trust in people. He wasn't even willing to make an effort to work within the system. Yes, Ross is an asshole, but he was willing to give the Avengers a chance, to have them take lead. Had Cap registered, he would have been able to bring Bucky in safely, and be able to convince everyone Bucky was framed from the get-go.
But, also, he was the one who decided to actually fight. Tony kept trying to reason with him, go easy on him while trying to give him a chance to comply and stand down. Cap went to war.

But mostly, I directly blame Cap for not trusting Tony in Siberia. Tony would never kill Bucky. That's quite simply a fact. But when you've just broken up with the love of your life, your best friend was almost killed in front of your eyes, and is now permanently invalid, and then you get to hear the person who was the cause for all the shit that has happened in the last few days was also the one who killed your parents, and is standing right next to you, then yes, it's not human not to react emotionally and lash out. That was an emotional reaction. It's not a morally or rationally good reaction, but any other reaction than the kind of emotional reaction that Tony displayed would have been cold and inhuman. But Tony would never kill Bucky, not like that, not in cold blood. Cap should have known that. Yes, Bucky would have ended up with a few cuts and bruises, but Cap should have trusted Tony not to kill Bucky. But Cap didn't. He didn't trust Tony to ultimately make the right call. He doesn't trust anyone to make the right call, except for himself, which he almost literally says at the start of the movie.

So, yes, Cap was wrong.

At least he had enough selfawareness to recognize that he no longer has trust in the people he claims to represent, which is why he left the symbol of that trust, the shield, behind for Tony.

>>82348231
the choreography was excellent, very brutal and raw. The only minor complain is the constant shaky-cam in the beginning

>>82348249
Where is Zemo, friend?

>>82348220

lol no...

Thor>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hulk

Hulk might have more physical strength (eventually) but that's about it

>>82348220

Here are the Russos doing somesort of MCU Power Ranking

https://youtu.be/PuwK0KFKI30?t=3m51s
At about 3m50s

>>82348261
So are you saying Cap should've just let Tony beat the shit out of Bucky for a little until he calmed down?

>>82348261
Tony would kill him.

>>82348220

War Machine is the one that stopped Scarlet Witch...

>survived a oil truck explosion
>survived getting shreked by vision from high in the sky
>helped to knock out giant man

>>82348228
Initial conflict is pretty good, and makes sense. Pretty much a matter of perspective. Then Stark suddenly gets emotionally triggered in the final moments, which also makes sense.

>>82348264
Yeah. My only complaint was too much cuts. I mean you clearly can see from the B-Roll footage that fights are real and it's pretty wire-work heavy. Maybe it was there to create tension like Doug Liman, I dunno. You still could follow what was happening though.

>>82348242
>ANTS Tier
Ant-Man

>God Tier
IM
TWS
CW

>Great Tier
GotG
Avengers
TFA

>Meh Tier
AoU
Thor

>Fuck You I Liked It Tier
IM3
TIH

>Filler Tier
IM2
TDW

>>82348271
Zemo didn't need power to defeat the Avengers

>>82348298
the beginning gave me Bourne vibe which I really liked

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>>82348276
>Jessica Jones
>They dodge the question about the shows and the movies connecting
I-It will happen in the end, right...?
Right...?

repostan from tv

---

One of the best MCU movies to date. Easily the best Avenger movie.

The action scenes were pretty good, and the fight scenes were top fucking notch. I have high hopes that they can keep this up with the future installments, but I'll probably be disappointed. Dialogue was better than expected, but that's not really saying much. Good enough though. And some of the quips were actually funny, and this is coming from someone that usually hates them. The Tony and Peter scene was bretty good. Most of the Spider-Man stuff was done really well, considering that it was probably added very last minute. The pacing and some of the scene transitions were really weird though. Felt like it was all over the place. I think a lot of this is due to introducing Black Panther and Spider-Man to the MCU in the same movie, and even more so because of the last minute addition of Spider-Man. I feel kinda disgusted by saying this, but this movie should either have been longer or had two parts.

Fuck yeah:
>action scenes
>fight scenes
>final confrontation between bucky, cap and iron man

Well alright:
>giant-man
>spider-man
>black panther
>quips
>SW getting better at using her powers
>tony and peter scene

Entirely okay:
>the rest

>>82348323
When Disney gets rid of Ike the Kike, so never.

I admire the movie's balls to have Cap and Stark be so human.

Already hyped for their broness being restablished in IW.

>>82348261
>Cap lost his trust in people. He wasn't even willing to make an effort to work within the system.
One thing I like about this story is that Cap did the same thing in his last movie, and it turned out to be the right choice there. So he had a good reason at least to think he was in the right this time as well.

>>82348276
>I'm going to have to go with Stan Lee because he clearly can't die. That's his power.

Holy fucking kek ahahahaahah

>>82348309
But he suffered.

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>>82348341
>I hope you didn't curse him right now with that

>>82348341
Russo brothers confirmed for browsing /co/.

>>82348242
>God Tier
TWS
CW
IM
GOTG
TFA

>Decent Tier
Ant-Man
TIH

>Meh-tier
Avengers
Thor

>Shit Tier
AOU
IM2
Thor 2

>"Fuck you Marvel" Tier
IM3

>>82348336
This.

NOW when they make up they can be actual friends with history, baggage, and shared growth.

>>82348337
And it was.

>>82348341
>Anthony Russo is the one who keeps making "you will die in Stan Lee's lifetime" threads

>>82348261
Tony snapped, he was going to turn bucky into a smear

>>82348368
They know shut it down!

>>82348368

The Russos know that Stan can't die until he contractually plays The Watcher in Avengers 4.

Only then will he be free from this evil.

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>the mad men actually gave us Giant-Man AND ant arrow in the same movie

Now I can rest easy that they'll have Cap pick up Mjolnir in IW and tell Thanos that he's a faggot.

I enjoyed how both Steve and Tony were emotionally compromised towards their respective goals.

>>82348384
Shut up, Cap.

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>>82348220
>EHNTS bellow Thor and Hulk
Right now, yes. But it's only a matter of time until Pym Particles start warping reality and EHNTS starts producing them biologically and we start seeing Kaijus left and right.

Now if say the Hulk was exposed to Pym particles, then all bets are off.

>>82348220
>spidey over tony
>ants that high
>hulk over thor
>falcon over bucky
>panther that high

what the fuck are you doing anon?

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>>82348433
>Right now, yes. But it's only a matter of time until Pym Particles start warping reality and EHNTS starts producing them biologically and we start seeing Kaijus left and right.

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>>82348419
>yfw Cap picks up the hammer
>yfw "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE"

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>Cap always take off his mask during the final battle in Avengers
>Cap kept his mask on when he's on battle in TWS and CW
Thanks Russos.

>>82348419
They fact they used the the "Plant yourself and say no you move" speech gives me lots of hope

BASED RUSSOS AND BASED MARKUS MCFEELY

>>82348453
Oh shit, that's what they're saving it for isn't it? The big team up in IW when both teams finally unite

>>82348438
Panther was OP as fuck in the Civil War
also
>complaining about ANTS
wut

Did anyone else get a distinctive Nomad vibe from when Tony yelled at Cap to drop the shield, that he doesn't deserve it?

Not that anyone likes Nomad, but it was an interesting take on Steve.

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>>82348465
I'm probably going to tear up a bit when that happens.

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>>82348453
>mfw finally AVENGERS ASSEMBLE

>yeah, what else is new?
they fucking nailed Ant-Man character in this one line

>>82348471
Well, as said, he no longer trusts the people of the United States, so how can he carry its representation?

>>82348465
>All heroes unite to fight Thanos
>Daredevil
>DEFENDERS...
>Star Lord
>GUARDIANS...
>Captain America
>AVENGERS...
>All together
>ASSEMBLE!

>>82348471
I like Rikki Barnes Nomad.

Spider-signal/tech has a Snapchat icon in it.

>>82348507
I highly doubt we'll see the TV characters in it. As long as Feige and Perlmutter are at eachother's throats, it won't happen.

>>82348508

I meant the Steve one. Rikki Barnes is cool.

>>82348507
Unpopular opinon, but I don't want any of the netflix heroes to fight Thanos

>>82348297
I would too. The way Bucky killed his dad was really cruel.

>>82348469
Ants was fucking useless, be honest with yourself and stop buying into the memes, he didn't hit a single person while giant and his small form wouldn't be enough to carry him that high. Maybe when he gets more experience with it he can become that powerful but at the moment he's pretty bottom tier, which makes sense and suits his character, he's a distraction, not a threat.

Panther was conclusively below both Cap and Hydra!Bucky and he was absolutely monstrously below Iron Man, there's no excuse for being that high even if you might try to argue that he could beat the afore mentioned two.

The actual power tiers are probably closer to:

Vision
Wanda
Thor
Hulk

Power gap

Tony
Rhodes
ANTS

Power gap

Cap
Spidey
Panther
Bucky

power gap
Hawkeye
Falcon
Widow

>>82348507
I want a "Braveheart"-esque speech about they're united in a common goal and are all Avengers.

>>82348303
The Force Awakens isn't a Marvel movie you silly

Where were you when we got the best movie Spider-man ever?

>>82348507
ALWAYS WE WILL FIGHT AS ONE
TILL THE BATTLE'S WON

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>>82348542
Well it sure as hell isn't a Star Wars movie either.

>>82348527
>he didn't hit a single person while giant
He backhanded Spider-man out of the air

>>82348527
ANTS plays top tier support. He can rewire suits while small and be a huge distraction when big. You HAVE to deal with ANTS when ANTS is on the field.

>>82348303
This is actually correct.

>>82348527

>Spidey below Cap, Tony, Rhodes and Antman

You're retarded.

>>82348527
If ANTS wanted to kill everyone, he would just do it with no effort.
PRAISE THE POWER OF ANTS

>>82348471
Well it would make sense if he wasn't wearing the captain america uniform the next time we see him, since now he's a definite super fugitive.

>>82348456
Well to be fair, it gets stolen by a Chitauri in Avengers (in a scene that was supposed to reference a scene at the beginning of the movie, but then Whedon cut that scene out so now the mask being pulled off has no weight to it)
I have no idea about Avengers 2 though.

>>82348303
people liked tih?

>>82348577
Whedon is such a hack

>>82348220
You're underestimating War Machine. He could easily rek Hawkeye and Black Widow.

>>82348438
Spidey is definitely over Tony. Ants is probably that high because of GiAnts. Other than that, yeah, I agree.

After watching Age of Ultron before Civil War

It made me realize that the Russos treat the characters as actual real people, where as Whedon never took the characers seriously and had them constantly poking fun at themselves.

It's really refreshing to see them taking seriously and not just being like "HEY WE'RE ACTUALLY ALL COMIC BOOK CHARACTERS, AREN'T WE SILLY!!"

OFFICIAL OBJECTIVELY RIGHT MCU AVENGERS POWER RANKING

1. Scarlet Witch
2. Hulk
3. Thor
4. Vision
5. Iron Man
6. Captain America
7. Winter Soldier
8. Spider-Man
9. Black Panther
10. Ant-Man
11. Hawkeye
12. Black Widow
13. Falcon
14. War Machine

>>82348568
He's probably gonna be using the super solider/TWS gear. I kinda want Tony to try to get his own Captain America knock off and find John Walker

>>82348220
Vs Thanos...

1. Scarlet Witch
2. Thor
3. Hulk

Vision can't fight Thanos due to risk. Everyone else is irrelevant.

>>82348565

He's way below Rhodes, fuck off, if they actually had to fight Villains they could go all out on especially

>>82348554
What are you talking about? It's clearly a remake of A new Hope

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>That subtle Ant-Man theme during this
I was so ready.

>Bucky speaking Romanian
bretty cool

>>82348578

12 whole people

>>82348527
Did people really get the sense Black Panther was weaker than Cap and Bucky?

>>82348599
This is worse than the other one.

>>82348599
>Captain America
>Winter Soldier
>Stronger than Spider-Man
Mr. Anonymous, you are trying to bait me!

>>82348600
>I lost one of my best friends
>Here, take this, you're my new friend now.

>>82348563
We saw in this movie that he actually cannot do that thing you just said though, he tried to rewire the suit and tony rekt him with the flush of cold air or w/e that was

>>82348565
Name one thing Spidey did that would let him defeat either of the suits if they were in a fight for real.

Pete got the shit beat out of him and the other avengers weren't even really trying? You think if spidey was in that final Cap/Bucky/Tony showdown he'd have survived? Fuck off.

>>82348599
>7. Winter Soldier

Winter Soldier needs two different rankings
Triggered Winter Soldier and Bucky Barnes

>>82348594

Whedon is the kind of guy who just makes no thrills, "comic book" (as in children's story) humor-based movies.

Which is funny because Civil War's funny moments were way better than Age of Ultron's.

>>82348610
And Iron Man 3 is clearly a remake of The Incredibles.
That doesn't make it a Pixar film.

>>82348616
You clearly didn't watch the movie.

>>82348588
Took a few years for me to realize that was true. Watched Avengers last night and there was so much I saw that I liked initially that I don't like now.

>>82348599

>Falcon running from War Machine the whole fight up until the end where he was a minor nuisance

War Machine is the one that stopped Wanda at the end and helped knockout Ant-man

This meme isn't funny

Can i get a link to the airport scene?

>>82348220

Does anybody else hate the concept of War Machine?

>Cheapens Iron Man as a character
>Has little to no personality
>Wearing a suit someone else made with

I'm a bit of a hypocrite though as I love Antman and he effectively stole the costume and had no input on the making of it.

>>82348618
>>82348608

Captain America could fuck up an Iron Man suit alone.

Peter is stronger, faster and more durable than Captain, with webbing abilities.

>>82348643
rhodey is responsible iron man.

in every incarnation, that's his shtick

>>82348600
Tony wouldn't search for a captain america knockoff after the letter he gets at the end, but it would make sense if General Ross pushed for one to be on the official avengers for propaganda purposes, a soldier that was more 'loyal'

>>82348643
I dunno, he's grown on me. He's way tankier than Iron Man and has more weapons as opposed to gizmos.

>>82348642
Here you go, m8
https://mega.nz/#!aEgkBIIC!L-FAGV5gePJqSy_1CHNiKNxV1FR1Os8a740AWlzMk-Y

>>82348599
>>82348599
Wrong. Let me post THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL POWER RANKING

1. Scarlet Witch
2. Vision
3. Thor
4. Hulk
5. ANTS
6. Black Panther
7. Spider-Man
8. Captain America
9. Iron Man
10. War Machine
11. Falcon
12. Winter Soldier
13. Hawkeye
14. Black Widow

>>82348626
One thing I noticed is that Tony's "quips" often seemed like he was trying to diffuse the situation or to avoid it.

OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL UNCONTESTED CORRECT MCU POWER RANKING DO NOT STEAL

>Scarlet Witch
>Vision
>Thor
>Hulk
--POWER GAP--
--POWER GAP--
--POWER GAP--
>Iron Man
>ANTS
>War Machine
--POWER GAP--
>Spider-Man
--POWER GAP--
>Cap
>Black Panther
>Bucky
--POWER GAP--
>Hawkeye/Widow/Falcon

>>82348644
>Peter is stronger, faster and more durable than Captain, with webbing abilities
And Spidey-Senses.
Can't forget about the Spidey-Senses.

>>82348618
From what I'm seeing, we're not talking about their fighting prowess and how long they'd survive in the battle- we're talking about their power level.
In fighting prowess, absolutely. All the Avengers have had some sort of combat training, even Iron Man and War Machine. Spidey's brand new at this, he has little to no skill.
But power level? Spidey would tear these fucks apart. It wouldn't be funny.

>>82348548
I was grinning like a fucking retard every time Spidey showed up. He was so based in the movie.

>>82348652
Super Patriotman

I didn't really enjoy this film as much as I thought I would. Mostly down to distractions as I had a kid two chairs away talking throughout the whole film and shouting out "There's Tony!" "There's Captain America" "Who is he dad!" "Why is Tony Young?!" "how long is left?" etc Should I give it another watch?

>>82348654
Thanks Anon
I saw the film yesterday and I need to see AHNTS going big again

>>82348616
Cap literally out muscled and then beat down spidey

WHILE ALREADY WEBBED

the russo's went all out with superhuman juggernaut Captain America in this movie and I fucking love it.

>>82348644
The suit was already damaged and Tony was confined in close quarters and also didn't really want to fuck Cap's shit up until the very end by which time he'd already lost most functionality.

An actual Iron Man suit could destroy Cap if Tony wanted it to, think of all the times Tony aimed his lasers or repulsors away from Cap to try to zone him rather than go for a kill. Think of all the times Tony downed cap then turned around to try to finish Bucky.

in a proper 1v1 Cap would never have gotten as far as he did in that fight, it basically relied on it being a purely physical cage match, and yes, in those specific circumstances, Cap>Iron Man.

>>82348644

Yes but Tony can FLY, you nigger
He also has too many weapons and suits for this to even be debatable.

Against each other Spider-man could win. Against Villains Iron Man is way more useful.

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>>82348666
>Falcon that low

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>>82348678
No problem.
That fucking laugh is priceless

I have no vested interest in these power ranking bullshit lists, but there is a difference between power and fighting skill.

Cap can fight, and has reasonable power.
Tony has hella power, but can't fight very well
Spidey is an acrobat and stronger than Cap

>>82348653
> He's way tankier than Iron Man and has more weapons as opposed to gizmos.

That moment when he vaporized an giant truck with his entire arsenal.

We need more cool War Machine moments in the MCU

>>82348530
I can see Cap doing a speech on telly telling everyone that can fight should fight and that theyre all avengers with intercuts of Matt fondling his helmet, Danny training, Luke and Jessica in bed watching TV, Frank cleaning his guns and maybe Couldon and Daisy watching

>London
>Berlin
>Bucharest
>Moscow
So they honest-trailer-proofed TWS, and for this one they decided to cinema-sins-proof it.

During the scene where Tony learns bucky Killed his parents A guy behind me whispered "Martha" and I had to try not to laugh

>>82348653
>>82348649

Is his suit weaker than Iron Man's? I could live with that. I suppose Tony's Intelligence and experience give him an edge even if the suits are similar.

>>82348680
>out muscled

Watch the movie again. He couldn't pull against Spidey, he had to jump in the air and spin to use his momentum to get out of the web.

>>82348663

>Iron Man lower than the Hulk

>>82348708

How the fuck is Iron man higher than the goddamn Hulk?

>>82348708
Iron Man kicked Hulk's ass in AoU. You better bump him up, sir.

>>82348666
There's no such thing as a power gap

>all these dumbs listing Iron Man lower than the hulk

Can we take a moment to appreciate how based Bucky was in this movie? The dude was a total badass with that metal arm, even more so than in Winter Soldier since we see him fighting alongside Cap.

>>82348704
Pretty sure it's more durable than Tony's. It looks tougher at least.

>>82348666

Spiderman should be higher, think he could take Iron Man and War machine. Not sure about Antman but probably.

>>82348704
It depends on the criteria. I imagine Rhodey values protection over pure speed so he might ask Tony to make his bulkier, more durable, but end up with a slower less custom tuned suit.

Also, guns, lots of them.

>>82348706
>in the air
>momentum

anon that's not how physics work.

Spidey briefly contains cap while cap is in a supremely awkward position to apply his full strength too but when he turns around it's clear that they're of a similar strength level.

Cap holding that Helicopter down was about as good as Spidey catching that car or the Jet bridge imo

>>82348677
I found it cute. This kid behind me shouted "Go Cap!" when Cap threw his shield at Spidey's web, but then his dad/mum shhh'd him.

>>82348196
Weird how Sharon Carter took the Scarlet Witch's place in all the early posters, yet now Wanda gets to show up in them.

>>82348706
Cap seems to use the Power of the Spin alot in his fights

I told them "if you want to get to them, you have to go through me" and vision actually did it the ABSOLUTE MADMAN

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>>82348715

>(you)

OFFICIAL 117 NATION SANCTIONED

OPINION POWER RANKING LEVELS

1. My Opinion
2. His Opinion
3. Their Opinion
4. Her Opinion
999. Your Opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J-msMs26Co&feature=youtu.be

>>82348736
i don't agree with this

>>82348726

That's how it works in comic book land, the same with Black Widow using her momentum in WS to take down mooks.

Spidey fucking held up a goddamn truck in this movie when it fell on him, Cap has never been shown to have that kind of strength. Also whereas Cap could only match for match Bucky's metal arm, Spidey easily caught and stopped it with zero effort.

>>82348261
Tony wasn't pulling his punches friendo, you are fucking retarded, I am sorry.

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>>82348703
Glorious son of a bitch.

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>>82348677
>tfw had two bogans talking behind me
I just deathstared them after they kept yapping on and they shut up.

>>82348735

Hulk would've won if he hadn't lost the mind control after getting hit.

>>82348735
The MCU sucks Stark's cock alot, compared to the comics where the hulkbuster has never actually managed to bust a hulk.

>>82348728
Its due to Fox rights issues. They were still sorting that.

>Power levels
It's like I'm on /a/

>>82348743
>Cap has never been shown to have that kind of strength.
Really? He held down a hellicopter that was taking off.

>>82348743
wut

no he didn't, he caught a car that was coming towards him and then released it to fall to the ground pretty fast. It's a good feat but it wasn't significantly better than Cap's helicopter one.

Also you have to keep in mind the difference between Bucky and the Winter Soldier, they're not the same, Cap fought the Winter Soldier and Spidey fought bucky, there's a significant difference, just between this because the movie makes sure to tell you before this that Bucky holds back with his arm and the Winter Soldier doesn't.

>King T'Chaka is dead
>Cap's team on rehabilitation in Wakanda
how do you think they gonna handle Black Panther solo movie now?

>>82348736
>>82348736

https://youtu.be/eL3k5NtBUaI?t=2m43s

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>>82348734
>SOMETHING JUST FLEW IN ME!!!

>>82348325
This proves /tv/ doesn't know anything about movies.

To begin with, Spider-Man was part of the film since the beginning, it wasn't a late addition, according to the Russos.

>>82348783
i don't get how this is relevant, jan

>>82348779

Black Panther: Civil War 2

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>>82348756
>That moment when the mom tells Tony how he is responsible for the death of his son
>that moment when Peggy's niece said Cap's "No, you move" speech
I got so hype. I'm glad I read Civil War when I was young and stupid and actually enjoyed it because those references made me super happy.

>>82348790
Chris Evans? More like the God of Laughing.

>>82348790
>SLUTS!

OFFICIAL POWER RANKINGS

>S tier (can be interchanged depending on the situation)
1.Thor
2. Wanda (she is too squishy as demonstrated by her getting owned by War Machine)
3. Vision
4. Iron Man

>A Tier (same as above for example war machine can take out more enemies in a shorter space of time)
5. Hulk
6. War Machine
7. Ants (S tier for specific missions)

>Spider-man Tier
Spider-man

>B Tier
7. Captain America
8. t. Chall'a

>C Tier
Falcon
Hawkeye
Bucky

>Why is she even there tier
Blacked Widow

>>82348779
Yknow how Tony is appearing in Spidey?
I assume Capll get an equivalent role in BP.
BP, Spidey and Strange seem to be the headliners for Phase 4

>>82348796

"Because it is so much fun!"

That's why it gets posted.

>>82348759
>>82348759


Iron Man's suit is still more useful than pure strenght regardless

>>82348796

It was meant to stop at a certain time 2:43 but guess you can't do it on here like that.

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>>82348790
>when Tony's in the prison and Scott starts telling him off
>"Who are you again?"

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>>82348818

>Iron Man in the same fucking tier as Vision, Wanda and Thor
>Hulk below Iron Man
>Spider-Man that low
>Hawkeye above Bucky

everything is wrong

>>82348759
>Call it Hulkbuster
>Doesn't work
>Call it Veronica
>Works

Did you guys enjoy Captain America 3?

AKA Iron Man 3.5 AKA Avengers 2.5 AKA Ant-Man 1.5 AKA Black Panther 0.5 AKA Spider-Man 0.5 AKA Thunderbolts 0.5?

>>82348844
yeah it was alright

>>82348643
>Does anybody else hate the concept of War Machine?

No.

>>82348820
I wonder what kind of role Tony will have in Homecoming. Personally I think he's gonna be trying to stop his company being bought out by Oscorp. I mean for all his charitable donations people's opinion of it must be in the toilet by now.

>>82348704

The general rule should be

War Machine = Offense/Defense
Iron Man = Speed/Utility

>Uber
Stan Lee

>OU (Overused)
Wanda
Vision
Hulk
Thor

>UU (Underused)
Winter Soldier
Cap
Iron Man
T'Challa
Bucky
Falcon
Ants

>NU (Neverused)
Widow
Barton
Sharon
Rhodey

>>82348864
The rumor is the Accords are coming after Spider-Man even though Stark is trying to protect him.

>>82348840

Iron Man saved the day in 2 avengers films you fucking retard. He also beat up the Hulk

POWER RANKING, not pure strength

What the fuck would Spider-man have done during the end scene in IM2? Apart from run away....

Yes Spider-man that low, the fuck? He's not better than Ants.

Arrows are more useful than a metal arm...

>>82348643

fuck off

>using guns someone else made
>using arrows someone else made
>using a syrum someone else made

>>82348871
>Vision
He's barely ever shown fighting though. It bugged me while watching the airport fight, he only shows up to fight like 2 or 3 times. It's because he's OP as shit and could easily solo anyone there. Also is Sharon really part of the Avengers? She's not in the movies much.

>>82348889
Hmm, they'll need to hire someone to track down Spider-Man in that case.

A...Hunter if you will.

>>82348912

>you

He doesn't go to ground level because he's scared of Wanda

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Guys, you are forgetting the best part of the movie.
All that potential /ss/

>>82348220
What exactly are Scarlet Witch's powers in the MCU? Far as I could tell it was just telekinesis with a cool red effect.

>>82348927
Aunt May is not for sexual.

>>82348261

>childhood is idolizing Captain America
>adulthood is realizing Iron Man made more sense

>>82348889
Oh the irony.

>>82348939

good goy.

>>82348928
Manipulation. Either by manipulating objects or by manipulating people.

>>82348228
makes sense completely until a really forced and stupid fight at the very end

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>>82348936
I legit popped a boner when she showed up on screen. It didn't even happen with the rest of the female cast.
I want to fuck this aunt May

>>82348261
Cap was just as egotistical and arrogant as Tony in the movie, he just has that whole humble slice of american pie and a nice smile thing that keeps people from calling him out on stuff.

>>82348987

t. Jade 2

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Black Panther was the best part of this movie:
>"I will kill him myself!"
>"How long do you think you'll be able to keep your friend safe from me?
>"The living are not done with you!"
>"Let them try"

My nigga/10

Spidey was pretty cool too I guess
>Tfw Tony fugged Aunt May

so did tony and pepper break up?

>>82348791
How so?

>>82349027
>I'm Clint
>I don't care

>>82349027
Spidey was dissapointing for me when he was in suit. Maybe it was the timing of his dialogue relative to what was happening but it felt clunky and dumb more than funny.
When he was Peter he was pretty great though.

>Barnes is mine!
shit, dude's thirsty as fuck

>>82349027
>Hawkeye: We haven't met, my name is Clint
>BP: I don't care

>>82348261
I believe Tony would not kill Bucky internationally, but in his emotional state thing cam go out of hand quickly specially in the suit

I wasn't entirely satisfied with the fight scenes, there was clearly a lot of work put into the choreography but I really detested how they were shot and edited. A lot of it was hard to follow which is a shame since you can catch glimpses of good choreography in there. Didn't really enjoy the excessive quips in the airport fight either. As far as comedic scenes go, seeing Falcon and Bucky's approval after Cap kisses Sharon was gold.

Also, is Zemo supposed to be a Hydra agent in the movie? So far he was just shown as a Sokovian soldier?

Saw the movie yesterday, pleasantly surprised by pretty much everything. Simultaneously made me excited for both Black Panther and Spiderman going forward. Also, might be sacreligious to say here, but I hadn't seen Ant-Man before this movie, so this was my intro to him and I gotta say: Ants is fantastic. Legitimately lost my shit when Giant Man happened, had no idea that would happen. Is he this funny in his own movie?

>>82349054
>>82349075

BP's like 1 day in and already shitting on Hawkeye. Love it.

>>82349058
Don't worry anon, with further tutelage under Tony, Spidey shall became a quip master.

I went to see it on release and I really enjoyed it.
My biggest gripe with the movie is that none of the heroes died.
I know that's a very shitty problem to have, but Rhodey could've died and it would've benefitted the movie, and maybe Cap dying would've been worthwhile.

>>82349054
>>82349075
imagine if this is Whedon's version, out of place quipping will come out of his mouth

>>82349100
He'll also learn how to love red heads

>>82348309
cant wait to see him again hopfully in black panther or summin

>>82349084
Zemo was simply an incredibly dedicated and skilled Sokovian soldier who knew exactly how to tear the Avengers apart. He said in his scene interrogating the Hydra agent: when you have experience and dedication, you can do anything.

>>82349104
>none of the heroes died
Death has become a cheap trick in MCU, so why bother anyway.

>>82349107
I hated the quips in Avengers 2, but I really liked the quips in this movie

Imagine a Whedon Civil War or Infinity War

>>82349128
Honestly some of the shit people go through in this movie is way worse than a quick death.
> Bucky
> Wanda
> T'Shaka
> fucking Tony. Jesus christ, Tony. He can heal his wounds by pseudo-fathering Peter.

>>82348928
Chaos Magic.

> Connected to her emotions consciously and subconsciously.
> Unlike "Order magic", can power "science" or "magic" based powers and mesh them.
> Requires enormous willpower to wield.
> Most powerful and advanced magic.

>>82349085
>but I hadn't seen Ant-Man before this movie
uwotm8?
ANTS is a great movie, funny as fuck. watch that shit now nigga

>>82348273
he is talking about mcu friend

>>82349085
Ant-Man is easily one of the funniest Marvel movies. If you liked him in this one, you'll love his solo movie.

>>82349129
Same. It felt really off when they were quipping in Sokovia when people were dying all around them. The airport didn't have any citizens, so there was no chance of innocents accidentally dying. The quipping felt more natural.

>>82348663
>Spider-Man gets beaten by Captain
>still rank him above Paker
>Iron-Man that low, when he fought on par with Captain whilst fighting and wrecking Winter Soldier at the same time

You're objectively wrong.

>>82349128
Not really, since no one who matters has been killed off. You could argue Coulson, but as loved as he was he still wasn't a major player. Same with Quickslav.

Death won't become cheap until we start seeing multiple big name heroes killed off.

>>82349084
>Also, is Zemo supposed to be a Hydra agent in the movie? So far he was just shown as a Sokovian soldier?
His very first scene is him casually disposing of a Hydra agent, and he works solo for almost the entire movie. So I don't think so - his stated background when Tony searches him is a colonel in the Sokovian special forces.

BUT I think they could actually completely go with the Helmut Zemo, son of Heinrich Zemo the Hydra Commander here. Reasoning:
>Sokovia had an entire Hydra army encamped in it, commanded by Baron von Strucker
>Helmut's father lived in the countryside of Sokovia, but everything else about him is left blank. Could be a farmer, could be a Baron.
>Helmut's ability to decode the Hydra files when nobody else could
>Helmut's comment on Sokovia being a failed state long before the Avengers arrived
>Helmut's jab at Cap's blue eyes would make a lot of sense if he had a Nazi upbringing

Beyond his performance I was impressed with how open they left Zemo as a character. They can go so many ways with him from this movie, but even if they don't and it stops here it's still a great villain performance.

>>82348956
Mind powers will thank goodness likely be completely dumped by based Russos in Infinity War.

>>82349149
So she becomes stronger when she's PMSing?

>>82348613
It wasn't so bad but after watching Hulk (that one with the angsty plot) anything is good, also it have my favorite Stan Lee cameo, and the Hulk smash moment is great

>Villain cosplays as Bucky
>It's called Civil War but no one dies and they end on good terms
>Dumbest plot ever
>overall shallow
>quips

Does Cap have a shirtless scene?

>>82349151
>>82349157
That's just it though; this movie did the thing that these team-up movies should always do - make you WANT to see the solo movies. Loved Ants in this, totally want to go back and see it now.

My brother had a great thought about this and BvS
> After seeing CW, I want to see more marvel movies with these characters.
> After BvS, I'm good on DC movies. No desire to see more.

>>82349084
He should have been German.

>>82349110
But redheads don't like Tony anymore.

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>>82349151
>>82349195
>>82349157
>added to your account

>>82349148
>pseudo-fathering Peter
I'm really excited to see mentor Tony in Spider-man Homecoming.

>>82349121
Would have been better if he was German, as Germans are clever and sly.

>>82349211
THAT COIN IS TOO BIG. MAKE IT ANT SiZED

>>82349156

So am I you retard, do you think Hulk could have destroyed that floating Island?

>>82348526
The mum was worse.

>>82349224
>clever and sly
But then he wouldn't be MCU material.

>>82349224
>>82349204
You can just imagine he's ethnically German with Sokovian nationality anons.

>>82349225
I agree that it is a movie for the little people, not our xlent MCU kino.

>>82349191
Only some arm porn when he holds the hellicopter.

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> Oh man, I thought it was a water truck.

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>>82349211
>crying shill in a Marvel thread

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So...
What was the point of Spidey? He did nothing of what makes him important on Civil War

WHERE;S THE CAM? I SEARCHED AND ALL I FIND IS PORN

>>82349178
Was there any basis for that in the comics? Any at all?

Or did Whedon see a person with strange powers and say "Hey, we need an artificial conflict, I have plans for you."

Guys, i watched it yesterday and thought it was just OK, of course Spider-man and Black Panther were awesome on it, but after the Airport fight scene the movie just gets OK, i lost my hype when Spidey went out.

The 98% on rotten tomatoes really made me more hyped than i should.

After the airport scene, I knew the guys were going to be friends again and i just didn't care if they were fighting or not. And vision shooting Sam and hitting War Machine was such bullshit, i mean, if he almost killed war machine, what would happen with Sam???

Winter Soldier is still the best marvel movie, CW is just good because there are more characters we know on it, but it is not as good as it should.

AND I CANNOT STOP TO COMPARE, but BvS was full of ups and downs but when you sum up the movie turned OK, CW is just a straight line with a huge peak during spider-man scenes which summed up also turns out a bit above "just OK".

>>82348643
He always seemed like a responsible Iron Man to me.

>>82349324
He reminds the audience of the dangers of being a superhero. He's even younger than what he's normally portrayed in the movies, so when he gets beaten up you don't want to see him get hurt not just because he's Spidey but because he's a kid.

>>82349053
>How so?
They were told to write two scripts, one with and one without Spiderman.

And later they admit they never actually wrote the no-spiderman script at all.

>>82349191
>>82349253
biceps bigger than my fucking head

I wonder what Thor and Banner think after get back from Ragnarok and find out about the Avengers

>>82349324
> He did nothing of what makes him important on Civil War

You're right, but he only added to the experience by being there.


>You now realize in some parallel Earth, Spider-Man was never in Civil War
>Civil War was worse in each those Earths
We truly live in the best Universe

>>82348242
>GOAT tier
Winter Soldier
Iron Man
Antman
Civil War
First avenger
GOTG

>Guilty Pleasure tier
Iron man 2 and 3
Thor

>Not very good
Avengers 1 and 2, 2 has some GOAT parts like vision tho
Hulk

>will never watch again
Thor 2

>>82349324
He did a pretty good speech to why he does the things that he does, WHICH felt like a punch on Starks face because it was almost like something Cap/Supes would say.

So why did they cast Martin Freeman in this again? Seems like a waste of money to put a big name actor in such an unimportant role.

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>>82349471
Because Everett Ross will be in the Black Panther movie, like in the comics. This was his introduction.

>>82349471

Apparently that character matters in Black Panther.

They maybe could have shown that better, because if I didn't Wikipedia it afterwards I would have found Freeman's casting confusing.

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>>82349471
Waste of role, i was hoping him and zemo would do some Hydra shit at the end, but zemo doesn't even care about Hydra.

There's a scene right at the end when Zemo is imprisoned and Martin Freeman is kinda interrogating him. You can see Zemo is looking at himself and Martin Freeman because of (mirrors), and i was praying for Pic Related to happen.

>>82349539
That scene was cool though
>How does it feel to put so much effort only to fail so miserably?
>Did I? Did I really fail?
>....

>>82349189
>>It's called Civil War but no one dies and they end on good terms
I dont think good terms is the right way to put it

How will the Avengers unite before Infinity War? Or will the unification just be hamfistedly shoehorned into the beginning of the film? The Avengers are currently fragmented and all of the movies slated to be released won't feature any of the team prominently.

Maybe a post-credits scene at the end of Black Panther where they all get together or something? Or a Nick Fury-esque scene where it's implied they've all gotten back together? Seriously, which movie will address this issue and how? Because if it isn't addressed, that's like 10 minutes needlessly added to the runtime of IW Part 1.

>>82348220

Why is war machine weaker than Johanson?

is he dead or paraplegic?

>>82349589
>russos and markfeelys
they're gonna be fine

>>82349539
>zemo doesn't even care about Hydra.
thank fuck

>>82349591
>is he dead or paraplegic?
The latter.

>People bitching no one died
>They don't realize it'll make Thanos utterly curbstomping everyone have all the more impact

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>>82349189
>end on good terms
Did we both watch the same movie?

>>82349502
>>82349535
I guess, but they could have easily introduced him in the Black Panther movie instead. He didn't really do anything in this movie at all.

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>>82349253
he looked like a greek god
i loved it

>>82349364
The the first sentence in your reply, not the spider-thingy.

>>82349565
Yea, it was cool, but c'mon, he did kinda failed because Tony received the letter and you could see things were going to be alright by the beginning of Infinity War.

>>82348249
should be
1. Iron Man
2. Scarlet Witch
3. Winter Soldier
4. Black Panther
5. War Machine
6. Captain America
7. Black Widow
8. Falcon
9. Vision
10. Ant-Man
11.Spider-Man

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>>82349626
haha benis :DDD

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>>82349610
Vision's death is inevitable, and he and his minions will probably utterly curbstomp the Nova Corps and the Collector.

>>82349589
They'll properly unite on IW2

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>>82349589
Apprantly Kevin Feige said Black Panther takes place around the world and was important for Infinity War

Thor: Ragnarok will be the most important movie for Infinity War, which means I think we'll see pic related

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>>82349626
>you will never feel his biceps
ANTS is one lucky guy.

>>82349663
what will IW1 be then? all of the cosmic exposition for the storyline? and then part 2 is set on Earth? should have been handled oppositely desu

>>82349297
>Buckled in?
>yeah, no im good, im good arrow guy lets go, LETS GO!

>>82349651
>Vision's death is inevitable, and he and his minions will probably utterly curbstomp the Nova Corps and the Collector.
Both old Jarvis and Ultron were able to survive on the internet if their physical bodies were destroyed. Vison would clearly be weakened by the outcome for losing the mind gem, but his death would be the least permanent of all Avengers. I think he got killed multiple times in the comics.

>>82349535
>>82349624
They presumably needed a certain role, and they figured they might as well have Everett Ross show up early. It would either be him or a generic OC government guy.

>>82349685
>and then part 2 is set on Earth?
Why would it be?

>>82349707

That's fine, but it's just weird placement. If you don't know anything about BP it just feels like Martin Freeman showing up in some bizarrely overqualified cameo.

I just feel like they could have made his connection to Panther a bit better, then at least you'd get the feeling he would be important later.

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>>82348652
>mfw Ross gets sick of dealing with Tony's shit and makes his own superteam comprised of Raft prisoners lead by Zemo/Citizen V

>>82348196
>Being for hero registration

??? What the fuck why? It's not like the movies had bad death tolls.

>>82348220
how are Vision over Scarlet Witch when she just BTFO him in the movie?

So who released Falcon and WS arms from the webs, Redwing? I didn't watch the movie, just the airport scene people've been posting, so maybe it's just not included in the video.

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>>82349672
In Ragnarok, Thanos breaks Asgard
In GoTG2, Thanos Breaks Xandat
In IW1, Thanos breaks the Collector and everyone else before killing half the universe
In IW2, with Thanos at his greatest, we get this scene.

Cue "Avengers, Assemble!"

>>82349765
>yfw Ross decides to trust Emil Blonsky AGAIN

>does anybody have orange slices?
what did he mean by this?

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Just came out of seeing it.

>Overall decent
>Quite crowded
>Black Panther was great
>Spidey was good but inconsequential
>It ended a bit abruptly (This criticism hinges entirely on how they resolve plot points/status quo in the next movie(s))
>Cartoon physics in fight scenes sapped a lot of tension
>Lots of fights looked sped up, my friend didn't notice this but I swear everything was moving just a hair too fast
>Zemo was underused
>Martin Freeman was wasted as an actor

Overall 7/10
I enjoyed it more than The Winter Soldier, but apparently I liked that less than most people.

>>82349672
From what I've gathered, I have a feeling Hulk v Thor: Ragna of Rok will have them hopping around the Galaxy trying to stop Loki/Hela from destroying Asgard and succeeding by the end, only to arrive at Asgard 5 minutes until the end, at the same time Thanos is using the newly acquired power gem to literally rip Asgard in two with his bare hands to get the Tesseract. Cut to Black on Thor's face.

Makes the most sense with Odin dead/banished, and the choice for Waititi as a director to make a feel good movie that gives you a false sense of security to rip your heart out at the end.

That's how I'd do it, anyway.

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>>82349672
>Thanos goes after one of the Gems in Asgard
>Hulk is there alongside Thor
>Thanos and Hulk engage in a full on brawl
>Thanos beats the incredible piss out of the incredible Hulk to display his power level
All of my yes. It would be absolute wasted potential if they didn't do this.

>>82349805
Oranges are good for recovering electrolytes

Man, I was not expecting Wanda to be that adorable.

Vision a shit.

>>82349805
Needed to get his electrolytes back up

>>82349774
i feel like the accident that kick starts things with crossbones should've been a little more gory
but at the same time it is a family film at the end of the day

>>82349785
Well the world security council or whatever they were called originally wanted Blonsky on the Avengers instead of the Hulk, who's incarceration was under Ross's jurisdiction.

Coulson did not want that at all, so he sent Tony Stark as the representative to convince Ross to hand Blonsky over, knowing that he would piss the general off so much he would refuse.

It was one of those shorts you see on the DVD's, it mostly had coulson and the shield agent that turned out to be working for hydra talking in a truckstop diner with a short cutaway to Ross in a bar where Stark suddenly appears.

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>>82348542
the first avenger, you dirty nigger.

>>82349784
>In GoTG2, Thanos Breaks Xandat
Feige and Gunn confirmed Thanos won't be in GotG2

I think IW1 will be about the Infinity Stones and Thanos collection them while tearing shit apart.
Move ends with the Gauntlet being completed.

IW2 will be the fight against Thanos.

>>82349784
>In Ragnarok, Thanos breaks Asgard
>In GoTG2, Thanos Breaks Xandat
>implying he won't break those in IW1 instead
Plus, Gunn already said no Thanos in GOTG2.

>>82349805
Sugary treats is how you get ANTS.

Speaking of which, whenever Scott went jumbo, one of you motherfuckers yelled ANTS in my theatre. To whom I obviously replied ANTS, and I heard someone say ANT-MAN, though that might have been the first guy. It was pretty great.

>>82349812
The fights just look too fast due to the shitty editing and filming. A lot of shots cut away right before impact and are filmed up close with lots of camera movement. It kinda sucks because the crew put effort into choreographing the fights.

>>82349812
>but apparently I liked that less than most people
Why?

>>82348220
Nah
Thor>=Hulk>Vision>>Scarlet Witch>>>>Iron man=War Machine>=ANTS>Spider-man>>Captain America=Black Panther>=Winter Soldier>>Black Widow>=Hawkeye=Falcon

>>82349845
>>82349848
You can easily return to Xandar in ruins. You don't show anything but the aftermath.

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>In BvS, a dead mom ends a fight
>In Civil War, a dead mom reignites a fight
POTTERY

>>82349785
Speaking of Blonsky, was I the only one who thought that the stuff Winter Soldier killed Tony's dad for was the knockoff Super Soldier Serum that Blonsky took? It fits with the enhanced strength and aggression those other Winter Soldiers showed. Sure they didn't seem to have the spine things, but they may have been put on ice before those symptoms could manifest.

>Cap trying to kill Spidey

BRAVO

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>>82348196
Just saw at the Japan premier. Pic is some swag the theater was giving away for the movie. Theater was pretty crowded. Everyone was most excited about Spiderman obviously.

>>82349908
what's that anime thing

>>82349873
I don't know, I didn't see TWS on release, I saw it on Netflix about a month ago.
Maybe by then I was already totally burned out on superheroes and by then I'd had pretty much everything spoiled.

Plus I found TWS as a character (especially in this) a charisma vacuum.

Is it just me or did Ants' helmet look different in the movie? I swear it was more streamlined than before.

>>82349920
Some anime promotion done up like the Civil War promos.

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Has anyone got just the spider-man recruting scene?
i want to see sexy aunt may and i love tom hollands pete

>>82349908
Were they disappointed when he didn't use his mech to fight Antman?

>>82349933
Yeah, I think I saw one with Fairy Tail characters

>>82349930
Yeah, the whole suit was Mark 2. Replaced the leather for spandex, no riibbed helmet back and no modulator. Helmet is longer towards the front, too, looks more like an actual ant.

I think I prefer the first one, but keeping it that retro wouldn't make a lot of sense, especially on an active-duty super hero.

>>82349893

What, no. Bucky and the Soldiers are running on Zola's reproduction.

The stuff Blonsky got was the Army reproduction, of which Banner's research would've been a part of.

>>82349947
I'M disappointed we didn't get that.

>>82348196
So Russos did a really good movie in Winter Soldier and they outdid themselves and Whedon with Civil War.

How hyped are you for Infinity War I?

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>>82349920
shonen jump did civil war poster parodies.

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>>82349953

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Is Uncle Tony going to be Peter new father figure?

>>82349930
his whole suit was different

>>82349977
>the real reason Pete joins Cap's team

>>82349976
>>82349975
Neat, any more? Maybe on /a/ since it's a little off topic?

>>82349977
I hope so. I really liked their dynamic together.

The way Falcon uses his wings as shields in Lagos was awesome

>>82349992
There's one more for Seven Deadly Sins, google it

>>82348696
HOHOHOOHOHOHOH

>>82348844
why do you say it was thunderbolts 0.5

So there was an interview clip with Anthony Mackie saying that if he did a Falcon solo movie, it'd be a 70s blaxploitation film.

>>82349977
i kinda hopt that he knew his parents somehow but i doupt they'll do petes parents again after AMS