Civil War spoiler thread

Black Panther was the best character in the film

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Anyone know where to find full scans of the character art booklets for the movies? There's some good stuff in them.

Why did Bucky look so fat in the movie.

He looked like he spent the 2 years between TWS and this just eating pizza and watching TV.

I expected this to be a clusterfuck with all the characters, but they kept the story pretty simple and focused despite all the airport cameos.

>>82344735
I would too if I haven't done that in 70 years

It was good but it had a lot of flaws. It had two different story lines of the registration and Bucky, and it never properly resolved or addressed the registration part. I thought there was too little Captain America and too many other side characters who didn't contribute anything to the overall story. I also found the last fight weird. I understand Tony being very mad at Bucky, but trying to kill him while knowing that he was under mind control and having the villain literally a few meters away just seemed too out of place for someone as intelligent and rational as Tony.

The action was good, characters were good, and the Bucky story was resolved, but it could have been tighter.

>>82344737
Probably helps that every character has one or more movies behind them so they didn't need to waste any time trying to establish who they were

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>>82344735
Yeah I thought he looked weirdly fat in a lot of shots too. I'm guessing either too many steroids went to his face or Stan aged really fucking badly in the last two years. Too bad, he looked the right level of brawny yet vulnerable in the last film.

>>82344830
>out of place
He just saw that guy punching his father to death.

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>>82344716
Why does his jacket look so cheap? I get he doesn't have time to armor up because he's a fugitive but at least give him a leather jacket or something actually stylish looking in the meanwhile.

>>82344830
>and it never properly resolved or addressed the registration part
Because it's not resolved.
I think they want to make it a point that the Accords will have an effect on all Earth phase 3 movies.

Punished Wanda edit when?

>>82344735
HYDRA probably never fed him proper food during all that time.

>>82344937

I think my favorite costuming was Zemo, who spent the entire film dressed like he came out of Old Navy.

I'm not saying he needed the headsock, but military gear, nice business-like clothes, anything.

Can we discuss how it's kind of fucked that Tony essentially blackmailed Peter into getting involved in a combat situation where he very easily could have been killed or seriously wounded?

>>82344926
He already knew that Bucky was under mind control, he already knew the Bucky did terrible shit. Also the actual villian who just explained his plan was there. Also the Zemo had just stated that he did all this to divide the Avengers. I understand Tony being angry, but I don't think its enough of a story justification for Tony to try to kill Bucky at that moment when everything else was going on.

>>82345026
Sounds just like Tony

The Accords are only about the Avengers, not registering powered people in general, and Iron Man's Avenger's signed them. Cap's Avengers are technically illegal, but he let Iron Man know that if he really needs their help, like say from Thanos invading, all he has to do is give them a call and they'll be there. There's nothing really more to resolve.

>>82344680
I was worried that Wanda's absence from posters and promotional material meant we should have a small role, but that didn't turn out to be the case.
She was actually the first character to show up after the prologue ended, has her own character arc and is vital to the narrative.
Why did they keep putting Sharon Carter in posters with Team Cap instead of her? Sharon barely did anything and was forgettable.

>>82345075
I think Sharon was originally an important character of whatever movie Cap 3 was originally going to be.
They tried to keep that, as shown in the concept arts, but eventually decided to include Wanda since Cap's team would be heavily underpowered, and just a random SHIELD agent had no place in this.

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>"He killed my mom."

>>82345075
The Sharon stuff was probably from the earlier drafts before they repurposed her material to go to Wanda since she's more popular.

The rumor that Cap would get a scale mail suit like in the comics...did it actually happen in the movie or was it just a rumor?

>>82345075
Rights issues? At least they've given up trying to push Widow as the main female in-universe. While I doubt either are gonna get their own movie, I can see Wanda being more useful storywise in the future since they seem to be going for more grandiose with Strange and the like the Widow

>>82344680
I want Sharon and Natasha turn-by-turn kicking my ass

I liked it. Shouldn't be named "civil war", but it's pretty good. Oh man, spider man was way better than expected.

Did any of you wait for the two post credit scenes?

>>82345026
>blackmailed
Sort of, but I think Tony was just more being his jokey self than legitimately trying to blackmail him. Plus Peter seemed perfectly happy to help after he admitted he was Spider-Man, he just didn't want Aunt May to know.
>killed or seriously wounded
No. With the exception of Black Panther gunning for Bucky, none of the characters were ever in any real danger. They were all friends. They fought, but they won't trying to kill each other. The thing with War Machine was a complete accident.

You're also ignoring the fact that Tony benched Peter at the end because he didn't want to push him too much, and that he gave Peter a badass suit. Tony was practically fatherly to him, which fits with all the parent angst he was going through during the film.

>>82345069
I think resolved in the sense that it tied more into the overall story and was better thematically developed. It just seems that overall the registration issue was not very relevent to the story.

>>82345115
Rumour. He pretty much had the AoU suit the whole time. I think they've finally nailed the suit since it seems to be the same as the TWS suit, just recoloured

>>82345026
Meh he didn't know it was going to get so out of hand. Hell the reason he recruited Peter is because he could catch them without hurting them using his webbing. Unlike Cap who knew he was making his team into outlaws especially Ant man.

>>82345026
He wanted Peter to keep his distance and just focus on webbing everyone up. When things escalated beyond his expectations, he forced Peter to back off.

>>82345131
>They fought, but they won't trying to kill each other. The thing with War Machine was a complete accident.
Yes, in fact, when Falcon noticed that War Machine had been shot down, he actually swooped down to try and save him. After he crashes, Tony Stark holds his unconcious body in his arms crying, and Falcon actually turns his wings off and walks up to Tony to say he's sorry. Tony then blasts him.

>>82345115
I don't think it's really possible to create blue scale mail in real life wtihout it coming out looking like plastic or something.

>>82345134
The registration issue is just a plot device to break up the Avengers

>>82345136
>>82345164
That's perfectly fine. I like the way his suit looks.

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>>82345002
There.

You know, considering how worried Tony was about Pete's safety, I'm surprised he didn't give him full body armor.

>>82344680
So, who else was in the Raft before this movie?
The Abomination?
Also, how long before Marvel reopens the Raft?

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>Panther literally about to tear Bucky's throat out

Fuck he was so good

>>82345233
>Bucky's expression
I'm dying. But yeah that was fucking cool. Wanda for the save, multiple times.

>>82345115
>>82345136
>>82345164
>>82345184
I distinctly remember some promo art (from a long time ago before they were being officially released) had the scales?

>yfw Scott's distraction

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>>82345252
This is what Google gave me. It's entirely possible they tried to work out a scale mail design during pre-prod, but when they actually tried it out it didn't come out right? I imagine it'd probably be a bitch to light properly specially if you're in motion

>>82345266
>A big guy crashe onto a plane

>>82344680
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>>82345266

>>82345284
4 (You)

>>82345054
i thought the acting was pretty top notch in this, you could see that he didn't care anymore about rational behaviour and he went in full rage mode, i thought it was pretty well done

>>82345118
I'm excited to see Wanda, Wasp, and Carol take over as the main females. Widow is fine, she's just not the right level of hero for where the MCU is headed.

What a bad time for Tony.
Pepper breaks up with him.
Best friend gets crippled.
Every Avenger except Vision hates him.
Steve is harboring his parents' murderer.
Stan Lee calls him Tony Stank.

>>82345233
Man Bucky was like the fucking Orihime of this film.

>>82345321
Wasp was originally going to be in Civil War, but they decided she should debut in her titular movie, plus she wouldn't have that much to do since Scott would be there.

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>>82345266

When he started messing with his wrist panel and moved the slider and the display went from red to blue I started bouncing in my seat and slapping my friend's shoulder over and over.

Fucking rad.

>>82344680
so what's the context of this image? She got caught by Team Iron Man and they try to detain her because she's resisting the new policy?

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>>82344735
Porky Barnes

>>82345334
STEVE-KUN STEVE-KUN STEVE-KUN STEVE-KUN STEVE-KUN STEVE-KUN STEVE-KUN STEVE-KUN STEVE-KUN

>>82345327
Its okay because he met Peter's Aunt

>>82345343
Got captured after the airport fight and send to the raft and put on a straight jacket.

>>82345349
he looks like a hairier Karl Pilkington

>>82345327
man i felt for him

>>82345338
Yeah I'm aware, and I think it was the right decision since her debut would have been overshadowed by Panther and Spidey's. She was great in Ant-Man without even suiting up, and I really hope they push her to being one of the major Avengers alongside Carol. It's long overdue that the team actually have capable women. Black Widow being so underpowered in comparison just doesn't do it for me. What the fuck would she even do against Thanos?

>>82345343
Cap's team are all imprisoned when they help Cap and Bucky bail.

Then Tony shows up at the raft and Hawkeye basically calls him Judas, Ant-Man says Pym was right, and Wanda's in a straight jacket otherwise she'd bust everyone out

>>82345334
>STEVE HELP ME! HE'S GOT CLAWS!

>>82345377
I feel bad for Tony's shitty life, but fuck him.

>>82345363
>turns out, little monkey fella was pretending to be me

>>82345233
I hope he's in the Black Panther movie.

I hope Wanda is in the Doctor Strange movie.

>>82345377
>Ant-Man says Pym was right

It actually goes like this:
>Hank Pym warned me to never trust a Stark!
>Who are you again?
>...Come on man.

>>82344830
The "logical", "rational" characters like Tony and Vision were unable to control their emotions.

The "emotional" characters like BP and SW were actually more rational.

>>82345273
Yeah that's exactly what I was referring to you. It looks good, shame they didn't go with it.

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>>82345382
>STEEEEEEEEEVE HAAALP

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>>82345363

Oh my god I see it now. I'm going to be giggling like a retard whenever I see him from now on

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>>82345407
Maybe in the post-credits.

>>82345407
>I hope Wanda is in the Doctor Strange movie.
I'm pretty sure that if Wanda was in Dr. Strange we would have heard it by now.

>>82345338
Also she's preggers.

>>82345377
>Hawkeye basically calls him Judas

Shieet. So they actually used Ironfist's line from the comics. I always liked the line even though it didn't really fit as well in the comics.

>>82345425
I don't remember hearing about Mackie in Ant-Man until a month or two before it came out

>>82345425
When did we hear about Falcon's scene in Ant-Man? I swore I had no idea about that until right when the movie came out.

>>82345192
Wanda dindu nuffin.
Fuck Tony. Fuck Vision.

>>82345349
He look like Russian bear.

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>>82344735

Did they shoot this before or after they shot The Martian?

He looked skinny as hell in The Martian. Maybe he did a dirty bulk to put on size quickly to get back to the way he looked in The Winter soldier. Not like he needed to go shirtless or anything.

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>>82345439
>Fuck Vision.
She'll take care of that.

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>>82345266
>his cackling as he grew

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>>82345353
Goddamn she was hot.

>>82345451
He was a qt in The Martian, shame his character got gimped so hard.

>>82345452
Vision is going to die in infinite wars that much is confirmed. Which will probably make Wanda very mad.

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>>82345448
Speaking of. Will we ever get this scene in the MCU?

>>82345456
T'Challa edit when? He got promoted to king after all.

Crossbones was brutal. It's too bad he blew up.

>>82345451
Pretty sure it was afterwards.

>>82345468
>>82345451

Just looked it up.

The Martian started shooting in November 2014, and lasted like two and a half months. I have no idea how long he was personally involved, though.

Civil War started filming a couple months after in April 2015.

God, Scott and Peter are massive dorks in this. Scott keeps trying to shoot off what he thinks are cool one-liners but everything he says sounds corny and cliche. Peter's a nerd.

I love it.

>>82345451
I met him in person during filming when he was wearing a tight t-shirt, and he's not fat at all. It's mostly the unfortunate baggy costuming choices they put him in.

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>Rich suit man is mad at Mr.Perfect for collateral damage in the previous movies
>Mr.Perfect wants to operate independantly
>normal man is out for revenge for collateral damage or omething and bombs a senate hearing relating to it
>it makes them fight
>in the end, in a twist revelation, we get to hear something about Suitman's mother that relates to Mr.Perfect
>in the end, normal man is put in some horrible prison, while the heroes hide in africa to form a new team
So is this entire movie just a big middle finger to DC?

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>>82345484

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>>82345468
>tfw Bucky Barnes and Zoe Barnes got married with the help of Troy Barnes
I hope Dong shows up in Infinity War or something.

>>82345530
How could it be? The two films were in development at the same time.

It's all just a hilarious coincidence.

>>82345410
The amount of destruction Scarlet Witch and Ant Man cause was astounding. Team Iron Man was pulling their punches except BP but the rest of Team Cap apart from fucking Bucky and Cap was going for the kill. Specially Wanda, I don't blame them for prisoning her like that.

>>82345374
I'd prefer if they wrote Widow to her strengths. She was perfect in TWS, she should be doing covert shit, being a spy or whatever. Every avengers role puts her into some kinda action sequence where we have to believe guns are useful....

>>82345468
Even the author said that the commander wouldn't have made such a stupid decision to do the rescue herself when Beck was the one most qualified to do it.

I still mad.

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>>82345541
>mfw dean Pelton played the MIT dean

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>>82345266
I was grinning like a school girl

>>82345519
For some reason the fat look is mostly limited to his face. There were several shots of just the neck up that made me go "Whaa".

>>82345548
But Wanda was mostly helping others.
Except when she buried Iron Man in cars.

Peter's Spider Sense seemed really inconsistent in this. It alerted him of the thing Bucky tossed at him from behind yet failed to work at literally every other instance. He got suckerpunched and caught off guard constantly.

So why was catman so wicked strong to begin with?
I can take that he's bulletproof with his adamantium suit, but how can he jump and fight like that? He's just some king's son.

>>82345576
He only got his powers for 6 months.

>>82345583
Vibranium nigga, ain't gotta explain shit

>>82345583
Vibranium suit.

And chalk it up to ancient African magic science.

>>82345452
Vision kind of ruined his shot at her

>>82345583

Magic jungle herb.

No, really.

Hey guys.

Jim Rash has an idea for a self microwaving hotdog he'd really like you to listen to.

>>82345574
I loved Wanda in this. Not the flashiest fighter but goddamn everything she did was perfect timing.

>>82345583
He is black.

>>82345475
It would be pretty cool if we got Ursa Major and the rest of the Winter Guard in the MCU, as well as other international superteams working within the Sokovia Accords.

>>82345557
Same. Widow is a valuable character under the right circumstances, but not in big battles against the cosmic threats, and I wish they'd stop pretending she was. But since they had no other female heroes, they couldn't leave her out completely. I'm glad we'll have Scarlet Witch and Wasp and Captain Marvel filling that role more believably so Black Widow can do other shit.

>>82345377
Does Wanda say anything or does she simply ignore him in classic Mighty Boosh style?

>>82345576
He still turned and looked at Lang right before he punched him from Cap's shield.

The threat was detected, but he didn't know how to react.

>>82345576
the work best on range, and with larger objects.
He can't predict being punched in the face, he has to rely on his normal superreflexes for that.

And one of his main weaknesses is that he's too light. He's pretty strong, but cap had no problem pulling him in on his web.

>>82345583
Panther God and sheeeiiiit

>>82345583
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_(comics)#Powers_and_abilities

>inb4 wikipedia

I was glad to see the Dean went from shitty greendale to MIT

>It was about information control system of nation/society by uniform management in Winter Soldiers.

>In Civil War, it's about the international law that can inspect the team.

>The classic guy, Cap infers team management that values individual instead of organizational theory. I want my team to be that way.

Kojima is Team Cap

>>82345572
I'm going to blame it on the facial hair not really agreeing with his jaw structure. As soon as he shaved his face lost all the chubby appearance.

>>82345618
I don't think so. I don't remember her having any lines in the prison scene at all. She's basically catatonic

>>82345604
that would explain how he can run and jump like that, true.
So can he also sing?

>>82345644
Only R&B and rap

>>82345557
Yeah. She's great as a support character in ways Hawkeye can't but they keep throwing her on the front lines.

>>82345620
Shouldn't his sticky feet help with that? If Peter clinged to the ground properly, the only way Steve would be able to pull him in is either take the concrete with him or tear him from his ankles.

>>82345430
No they didn't use that.

>>82345576
spider sense "kinda tells you were the danger kinda comes from"

Spidey relies on his reflexes and enhanced senses to counter the menace. If he focused on his spider sense he would gain a better perception of the danger and be almost untouchable but he doesn't usually center in a fight

>>82345574
Dude, she nearly broke Widow's back. And she wasn't just throwing cars at Tony, she was literally throwing them at everyone. And then she gets surprised when people get hurt because of her. And the cars have owners too, so she doesn't nearly kill most of Tony's team but there's hella damages that need to be paid for.

>Cap overpowering Spidey
Bull

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So guys, why did that german guy get put into the horrible glass container super prison?
He was just a normal dude.
like wtf.
Wasn't the entire point of the paper that everyone gets a trial?
The worst he did was bomb like 10 people.
You don't get chained into an electified glass box for just that.

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>>82345640
Maybe. Though he was pretty shaggy at the end of the last movie and it didn't look so bad there.

>>82345685
greatest soldier on earth w/ superhuman strength and a really good motivation to win this particular fight

vs. a teenager who's had his powers for six months and is amateur as hell

>>82345676
Everyone was trying their best to murder each other while pretending not to. Vision sent a building toppling onto Cap and Bucky. Peak human or not, they won't survive that.

>>82345654
Because she was the only woman they had, so leaving her out would have looked sexist. They should have started with a different female Avenger and had Black Widow be a more prominent Maria Hill type role. She definitely didn't belong on the front lines against an alien invasion.

Just not sure who. They couldn't have Wasp because she was tied with Ant-Man which got super delayed.

>>82345685
He didn't overpower him, just a lucky kick.

>>82345690
That normal dude managed to ruse all the Avengers into almost destroying each other.

Imagine if a guy made some incidents that made USA and Russia almost nuke each other, you think they would just put him in your local prison?

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>"It was my fault"

yes, yes it was Wanda, you tremendous fuck up!!!
get your shit together ffs

>>82345706
That amateur ran circles around Bucky and Falcon and was the primary factor in taking down Giant Man.

>>82345685
>spidey losing focus and getting beaten by theoretically less powerfull individuals

it's absolutely consistent with the character, anon

>>82345674
Eh, it's pretty inconsistent in comics too. Sometimes it's vague and imprecise, other times it's like he has perfect awareness of his surroundings. Sometimes he can get suckerpunched, other times it's almost impossible to catch him off guard.

If the movie was trying to stay true to the comics, it's doing a great job.

>>82345724
She looks so sad in the thumbnail.

>>82345706
Wrong.
Peak Human Strength
vs
Spidey Sense, Super Speed, Strength and Durability

>>82345710
>everyone
wanda and vision are out of control freaks

t'challa was on a quest for revenge

everyone else was pulling their punches

So did T'Challa actually strach Cap's shield or just the paint?

>>82345723
yes?
Because a normal prison would be enough.
He is not the winter soldier, he's just a normal guy.
Sure he might get a long sentence and shit, but that doesn't mean he needs to be chained up forever without trial. That's just fucked up.

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>mfw Howard Stark had finally replicated Erskine's serum and got assassinated by an old brainwashed friend for it

>>82345727
but him getting beaten by cap is not out of the question

>>82345743
skills are only useful if you have experience and tactics that employ them well. spidey's green.

>>82345724
I wish someone had told her "if you hadn't acted, far more people would have died in that market, you did the best you could with the time you had"

>>82345739
yeah yeah I was deffending the movie's portrayal

>>82345758
The Avengers are the ones who saved the entire planet a couple of times, and he almost destroyed them.
He got what he deserved.

>>82345743
I don't think peak human strength is enough to ground a helicopter. Movie Cap is definitely superhuman. Though not to Spider-Man's levels. Cap struggled against Bucky's metal arm in Winter Soldier, whereas Peter casually blocked it with ease. So in terms of strength, Peter is above Cap.

>>82345755
vibranium claws mang.
so propably maybe.

>>82345711
Everyone else was tied up in rights. They already went B-list with Widow, they'd have to have gone to the C-listers if they wanted anyone else

>>82345750
Iron man and WM were firing live rounds and explosive at GiAnt man with 0 regard to how it could potentially kill him.

>>82345685

Cap has the EXP and motivation. Spider-Man had neither of those and it was more evident by the end of the film when he had the lucky break and more or less destroyed Stark.

>>82345761
You still need Vita Rays to make it work.

How much of an age difference was there between Howard and Maria Stark?
Howard was old enough to be Tony's grandpa.

>>82345740
The movie was basically 147 minutes of Wanda suffering

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>>82345695
That's because his hair is behind his ears so you can see his jawline better. Having the long hair really softens the look of a face.

I think this con was right after filming ended. They just really need to shave Bucky for future films, he doesn't look great with facial hair.

>>82345774
Avengers 2 is directly caused by the avengers. They might as well have just accidentally nuked his town.
SOMEONE has to stand up for that.

>>82345743
read >>82345735

also, can we stop going about that "peak human strength" bullshit?
I know that's how the character is supposed to be, but he's got so many ridiculous feats both in comics and the mcu that it's just a joke to keep on saying that with a straight face.

>>82345792
20? Howard was probably in his 50s when Tony was born. Makes sense for a playboy type like him

>>82345819
And that's when the Accords come in.
You can't just disband the Avengers because the next time something like the Chitauri invasion happens, you know they are the only ones who could stop it.

>>82345779
I want to see a female BP!

Imagine someone saying "Captainnnnn..." in a sexy female African voice.

>>82345452
Is there a cam out? I really want to rewatch Spidey's stuff.

>>82345710
Na mate, Tony wanted them alive to figure what they know and why from his point of view Cap went Batshit insane. Like I said Wanda and Scott were going for the kill, Vision was dropping the tower infront of them to block their way but Wanda the one who stopped. At which Warmachine came in and did that fucked up sound thing.

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>>82345833
Whoops! Didn't mean to quote you.

Also didn't attach the image.

>>82345833
Shuri? They'll probably cast Lupita Nyong'o since she's the hot new thing in all the Disney films right now.

>>82345833
What, never heard of White Tiger?

>>82345835
yeah, It's in spanish though

>>82345835
That's from the airport fight leak, here.
https://mega.nz/#!aEgkBIIC!L-FAGV5gePJqSy_1CHNiKNxV1FR1Os8a740AWlzMk-Y

There's a full movie camrip, but it's in spanish and I don't have the link.

>>82345830
but you can't just put someone into a bunker wihout trial either.
It sets a dangerous precedent.
Next time someone says "maybe the avengers should kill less people" POOF off to the death bunker you go.

>>82345839
Wanda wasn't going for the kill, she simply knocked Black Widow out because she noticed that Clint was pulling his punches.

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Oh shit, we have classic poster for CW.

>>82345835

Yes, but it's in Spanish.

>>82344680
i hate spidey a lot
>pls mr stark let me suck your dick
>Please Tony see how good i am !!

>>82345792
Something like twenty years.

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>>82345863
Posting the other two.

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Anybody else thinks the kiss between Cap and Sharon [spoiler/] was forced as fuck?

if you think about the unresolved tension from the Winter Soldier movie, it kinda makes sense, but I had to make an effort to remember they had a prior relationship. It kinda came out of nowhere

>WS and Falcon in the car compensated for it really quickly tho... I laughed my ass off

>>82345865
sounds pretty hot desu

>>82345788
Not necessarily, it'll still make you strong as fuck by itself, but it'll also make you mentally unstable as seen with Red Skull and the other Winter Soldiers

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>>82345880

>>82345853
>>82345854
>>82345864
> spanish
Damm... Thank guys.

I'll check that mega link out though. Thanks anon.

>>82345779
The guys a fucking Giant with armor, I think he can handle it as they showed you. Its like you forget Iron-man and Warmachine have Ai telling whats good or not.

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>>82345865

>>82345880
>>82345892
these two are really well done but

>>82345863
this one is a photoshopped, jpg artifacted mess

>>82345865
>Butthurt Captain fanboy

My only complain about the movie is I can't see shit during action scenes because of the shaky cams.
Though that may be because of IMAX so I'm probably gonna see it again in standard cinemas later.

>>82345908
They are all three photoshops with filters.

>>82345456
T'Chaka = N'mani
Crossbones = Sundowner
Zemo = Armstrong without the nanomachines
Who's Raiden? I would've said Bucky last movie but he jobbed so hard all movie he's got more in common with MGS4's Raiden.

Who was the bald Wakandan woman who almost got into a fight with Black Widow?

>>82345778
Yeah it sucks that most of Marvel's best female characters are in the x-men. I like She-Hulk and Spiderwoman, but their names alone ruined the chances of that happening. I guess I would have introduced Captain Marvel sooner as Miss Marvel and have her level up later on.

>>82345711
If TV and movie Marvel weren't so busy glaring at each other, they could have set up the Inhumans by using amnesiac Medusa as a founding Avenger instead of the Frightful Four. Or maybe they could have done She-Hulk in some way so Banner feels he has someone he can talk and relate to before he starts sciencing with Tony. Or they could have done Songbird if she wasn't in Agents of SHIELD.

>>82345913
I feel like it got better later.
The first scene with the crowds was really jarring, but either I got used to it, or the movie toned it down a bit later.

>>82345926
Personal bodyguards, can't remember the name.

>>82345926
Dora Milaje
Black Panther's bodyguard harem

>>82345799
She's a monster, she deserves.

>>82345913
nah man.
saw it yesterday. everything's a blurr.
It kinda makes sense tho... the biggest prblem is with BW fights because they have to replace the actress for the stunt every half second.

>>82345933
>Inhumans
nobody wants that

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>>82345881
I feel sorry for Emily because of how much backlash that kiss has gotten, but it was really awkward and I just don't feel anything for them as a couple.

>>82345926
I think that was the old one from Dr.Strange.
She had that ayy lmao kind of feel to her.

>>82345799
>>82345945
I forget, do they actually have the rights to call her scarlet witch? or is that still a sony thing?

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>>82345945
Delete this.

>>82345817
John Stamos?

>>82345908
The first two were drawn by Paolo Rivera, really good artist.

>>82345863
This one just took a bunch of promo art and shopped em together. I hope Rivera does one.

>>82345926
T'Challa in the comics is always accompanied by 2 bald women. They're also traditionally supposed to be the King's concubines, but T'Challa rejected that tradition.

>>82344712

so good

>>82345959
Man, even they know it was forced as fuck.

>>82345963
STOP CRYING YOU FUCKING WIITCH

>>82345961
Not Sony, Fox and no they don't, hence why they call her Wanda and her brother, Speedy Gonzales.

>>82345963
oh please, even if she's not a monster...
she's the kind of person you'd like to have in a closed room playing with a rubik's cube for 6 hours so she doesn't break anything

she destroyed everything she touched.

>>82345425
OP's "fuck this gay Earth" pic makes Doctor Strange a near certainty.

TK powers desperately need to be replaced with more interesting shit.

She can't train on Earth anymore due to being a fugitve, and gives no fucks about political stuff like Wakanda which has nothing to do with her, so won't be in the BP movie.

It would be retarded if she met Strange in the middle of Infinity War and mastered Chaos Magic within 5 minutes. Setting up her training in the hiatus makes more sense.

>>82345945
Bendis pls

>>82345973
I just took the pic from Hideo Kojima's twitter.

>>82345933
I like Medusa but the rest of the Inhumans can get fucked. Quake could have been cool if AoS hadn't claimed her. Songbird is in the show now?

>>82345988
>Speedy Gonzales
"Fast Mercury"

>>82345423
Please god make this happen.

>>82345993
KOJIMA GOT DUPED
PLAYED....

>>82345959
i'm totally ok with her being with the cap
I mean, IDGAF if she's peggy's niece.

but maybe, they should have developped a little bit more before this?
I think a botched attempt to invite her to dinner or for a drink when they're talking next to the elevator and Falcon interrupts would have been enough

>>82346018
I think their relationship and Sharon's caracter in general suffered from Cap 3 becoming Civil War.

What's everyone's fav line?

Imma go with Spidey's comment on the Shield: "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all!"

>>82345881
It doesn't help that they barely interacted in the last film either. Last time Cap talked to Sharon he was kind of pissed at her for faking everything that happened earlier and lying about being a super agent. The only reason he went after her was because Widow told him to which isn't a great basis for a relationship either.

Were Ant-Man and Spidey the only ones to call Cap 'Captain America'?

Also, was there any specific dates mention for the present day? 'Ant-Man' hints at Spidey and in this he says he's been Spidey for 6 months (which I took as sort throw away amount not a nailed on one). That would place Civil War happening around the end of last year right?

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>>82345989
>>82345985
STOP IT.

>>82345134
>I think resolved in the sense that it tied more into the overall story and was better thematically developed. It just seems that overall the registration issue was not very relevent to the story.
It was never relevant. The registration was just to appease the angry population, politicians just want to to be re-elected and they know they would need the Avengers in the next alien invasion. Basically the politicians are treating the superheroes like shit for now and will play nice when they need their asses saved the next time.

Anyone have snaps of Falcon and Bucky's faces after Steve scored with Peggy's Niece?

>>82345858
Everyone was until she tried to blow everyone up using the entire fucking car park and don't forget one of the funniest scenes in the movie when Scott tells Cap to throw the truck at pyms enlarger without know it was a gas truck, would've definitely killed Spidey and Widow.

>>82346047
yesssssssssssssssss
perfect execution

it made up for the awkward kiss

>>82346034
They say that Tony Stark revealed he was Iron man 8 years ago and that the Avengers formed 4 years ago

>>82345997
I meant to say Mockingbird. So no. No Songbird yet, but my desperate fanboy hope is that she and the other Masters will get a Thunderbolts movie.

Still, my point stands. They could have taken it some interesting ways. She-Hulk keeps her self-control, so they could play her off of Banner as someone who enjoys her transformation instead of resenting it. Medusa could have been on a search to discover her meaning in the world and offered some more "other world" perspective that only Thor had in Avengers 1. Depending on the rights, they might have even been able to work around the Namor rights and done Namorita (though I really doubt that would work).

Hell, they could have done the original Human Torch and subtly riffed on Evans being in the F4. Could have eventually given Vision someone to talk to and he could have had some interesting things to say about Ultron and mechanical life.

>>82345338
>Wasp was originally going to be in Civil War, but they decided she should debut in her titular movie, plus she wouldn't have that much to do since Scott would be there.
And it would make sense that she would get top billing in A&W, as Scott is now an escaped maximum-security international criminal. (Quite a big upgrade from just a thief. I mean seriously, he fought half the Avengers by himself! Think of the street cred!)
So at the very least you won't see Scott walking around in broad daylight for a while.

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so how did you like...

>THE REFERENCE

>>82345439
To paraphrase Woody Allen, "Wanda faces a crossroads. One path leads to prison and despair, the other to prison and utter despair. Let us pray Wanda has the wisdom to choose correctly."

>>82346069
>Scott can't see his daughter anymore
>THANKS A LOT STEVE

I'M MAD AT AUNT MAY'S AGE.

Ultimate May already got at least 10 years taken off her, and that was good.
but this????

>>82345452
He'll fuck Mantis behind her back and then say he was doing it to "protect" her.

>>82346091
Marisa Tomei is 51, m8.

>>82346084
>Scott dies in Infinity War
>his daughter, who realized how much he sacrificed, decides to become a hero to honor him

>>82346091
How ya Aunt gonna be 50 years older than you

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>>82345989
>rubik's cube

>>82346034
Forgot to finish the Cap part. It seems like a fair few who said Captain, finished it with Steve Rogers or just Rogers.

>>82346065
Ah yea. I remember that now anon. Thanks. It does place the movie in 2016 then. Seems like it was sort of a throwaway from Peter then.

>>82346091
She's older than Iron Man.

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>>82345963
>tfw had to search for pics of Elizabeth Olsen to see how Wanda would look with a genuine smile

>>82346091
Wait until the next reboot when shes younger than Peter.

>>82346078
"Not much difference, do whatever you want kid." is that what he was trying to tell her?

>>82346031
>"That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all!"
Ether this or Ant man's lines about being Tony's conscience

>>82346096
I know, m9.
But I don't want her to be a milf ffs


>>82346096
>>82346100
>>82346109
maybe when I said age I should have said appearance

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>>82345353
>Its okay because he met Peter's Aunt
He already fucked her.

>>82346018
I don't mind her being Peggy's niece, but I wish they would have downplayed his lingering feelings for Peggy in Cap2 and AoU if they planned on him hooking up with Sharon after, because this felt like whiplash.

Honestly, I think it would have been better if Peggy was already dead when he came out of the ice to avoid the kissing in the same movie as her funeral and him already having processed that grief instead of it coming off like him projecting his lost love onto Sharon. Sharon should have had a more active role in Cap2. She could have done the rescue instead of Maria.

The romance was the only thing that left me feeling kinda dissatisfied with this film.

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>>82346070
I didn't expect it to be in the movie because I wasn't sure they could make a situation for Cap to say it without it feeling hamfisted, but I liked the way they did it. So I was pleasantly surprised.

>>82346031

-could you move the seat forward?
-no.

>>82345576
>Peter's Spider Sense seemed really inconsistent in this
They outright told you that Peter in this version has trouble dealing with his super-senses, so his suit is actually a dampener so he could focus. Peter senses everything, but he couldn't process the information fast enough.

>>82346154
Sam and Bucky didn't get along at all
>After Falcon directs Redwing to push Spider-Man out of the way
>"Why didn't you do that earlier?"
>"I hate you"

>>82345690
>So guys, why did that german guy get put into the horrible glass container super prison?
>He was just a normal dude.
>like wtf.
He is like Batman, in that he is treated like a Super because of what he managed to do.

>>82345690
>Wasn't the entire point of the paper that everyone gets a trial?
He isn't American. As Tony said, only Americans get a fail trial, everyone else goes into underwater Guantanamo.

>>82346193
well, Bucky is basically stealing Captain Senpai from Falcon so it makes sense...

>>82345472
Based Chthon will then egg her on to beat the shit out of Thanos like the coach in Rocky.

You just know...

I can see it now, Chthon laughing his ass off at Thanos and calling him a faggot cuck sack of purple shit, as Wanda rams Thanos's gauntlet up his ass then creates a black hole in his balls.
She waits till its big then she implodes his testinal fortitude. Chthon takes pics and sends them to Shuma and Dormammu and even Eternity...shits and giggles.

Wanda then hurls Thanos into Chthon's dimension; no farming for the purple sitting man, where he is anally raped for all eternity on Chthon's Funky Chaos Farm.

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>'Pider-Man flick
>Left Hand Free starts playing
https://youtu.be/NRWUoDpo2fo

>>82346161
Seems likes he needs a few lessons from Daredevil.

I would actually love it if this actually happens

>>82346208
>>So guys, why did that german guy get put into the horrible glass container super prison?
I'm just wondering why they didn't just send him to the Raft.

>>82346220
I just want Wanda to be happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV3zN33k_KE
>Sad Bucky
kek

>>82345974
>T'Challa in the comics is always accompanied by 2 bald women. They're also traditionally supposed to be the King's concubines, but T'Challa rejected that tradition.
Clever. Really, you want the best fighters for your guards and the best lovers for your bed. Trying to combine them is probably an attempt at eugenics and breeding strong offspring, but a king can reject that and demand better.

>Spiderman gets sucker-punched twice
>Spider sense... what's that?!


love it when directors do a movie like this without knowing anything about a character

>>82345959
>I feel sorry for Emily because of how much backlash that kiss has gotten, but it was really awkward and I just don't feel anything for them as a couple.
My feeling is that Steve had been horny as fuck for months and years after he was defrosted, and he basically was only waiting for Peggy to get buried before he get busy. It doesn't feel forced because clearly she had been going above the call of duty for him.

>>82346286

>>82346161
>>82345588
>>82345619
>>82345674
>>82345739

>you dense motherfucker.jpg

>>82345643
Drugged?

>>82345657
Wasn't Daredevil that called him that?

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>post yfw QUEENS happened

>>82346330
yeah, he pulled the whole silver coin number too
(which was cool but also kinda stupid if you think about him having a coin in his mouth the whole time)

>>82346325
Probably, best way to ensure she can't concentrate on her powers.

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>>82346343

>>82345724
Stark = Londo
Wanda = G'kar

>>82346234
>I'm just wondering why they didn't just send him to the Raft.
Well I still suspect the guy talking to him is actually Hydra, and that they are interested in scouting him.

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>>82346343

>>82346330
Fake Daredevil

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>>82346343

>>82346286
>wanting Spider-Man to be a mary sue who never gets hit

>>82345799
And 147 minutes of Vision being incompetent and no longer being worthy by lying for selfish motives.

>>82345830
But they are disbanded.

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>>82346343
>me and my bro

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>>82346377
That's Everett Ross, he's a good guy and will be in the Black Panther movie

>>82346255
kek this interview is really funny

>>82345945
Cuddles.

Finished your sentence for you.

>>82346404
>And 147 minutes of Vision being incompetent and no longer being worthy by lying for selfish motives.
Vison is pure in intent the whole time. The issue is his actions are that of a child. Much like how he has the entire internet at his disposal, but has no idea how to cook edible food.

Vision lack experience. He can recite encyclopaedias, but he has no idea how to be gntle, considerate, or reassuring. Human psychology is not a science, it is something you learn by interacting with humans. Vision is still trying to work out how to make sure his actions match his desires.

>>82345988
They can call her Scarlet Witch they are just being Snydery about it.

Strange will give her the title, or Thanos will call her "The Scarlet Witch".

>>82346031
That was too Deadpool for my liking.

What next? "That looked like baaad CGI!"

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>post yfw Bucky smashed Howard Stark's face

also, how did Cap come to know about this?

>>82346532
Thought it was more a reference to the old adage: never take Cap on at frisbee tag.

>>82346538
I have questions. I didn't watch the movie.

1. Did they show blood when Bucky was smashing Howard's face
2. Again, did they show any blood when Cap and Bucky found dead Winter Soldiers who got shot in the head.

>>82346538
BW gave him Bucky's files at the end of TWS.

>>82346532
i think it was just remarking how good he is at throwing it

>>82346255
>mackie wants stan's hair
>if mackie turned into a woman he'd date stan
this man's homolust for bucky knows no bounds

>>82346538
>also, how did Cap come to know about this?
Winter Soldier. From Computer-Zola.

>>82346115
> First time Wanda smiles will be when she merges with Chthon and smashes the shit out of Thanos.
> Her only smiles are Chthonic grins.

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>>82346572
It's real.

>>82346562
1. didn't show the face but the tone of the scene was brutal. Tony's mom was bloodied though. Overall an awesome scene.

2. yes. a clear headshot. blood dripping from the forehead.

3. WTF ARE YOU DOING IN THIS THREAD IF YOU DIDN'T WATCH IT?

>>82346538
Cap to Zola "And what if people stood up to Hydra?"
Zola to Cap "Accidents happen." shows headline of Howard's car crash.

It was implied that Bucky took him out as an enemy of Hydra but not directly stated. Then Widow gave him the deep dark secret file on Bucky saying to be careful not to pull on this thread.

>>82346562
It sounded worse than it looks. He got his nose and face crunched in, but there wasn't gushing blood or anything.

The dead winter soldiers had bloody bulletwounds

>>82346562
>1. Did they show blood when Bucky was smashing Howard's face
There was blood, he was begging Bucky to spare his wife. Then his dead body was put back in the car to make it look like he died in the car crash.

All the while Stark's mum was screaming. Then Buck went around the passenger's side door and strangled her.

>>82346565
>>82346577

thank you and thank you. That's what I get for not re-watching TWS before this. sorry.

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>>82346343
I really had to pee.
I think I have like a psychological thing, that when I'm in a cinema, I just really need to pee. I had been on the toilet 2 times in the hour before the movie, and still managed to be full halfway through the movie. I don't have any issues on any other days, it's just when I go to the cinema.

>>82346611


>>82346605
and thank you for making me remember the exact scene.

>>82346612
you can just pee yourself anon :]

>>82346596
>last line of the interview
Cut the check, all day baby.

You can be charismatic, but you'll never have Mackie Charisma.

>Tony Stark

>needing a telepronter

also

>paying attention to said telepronter if placed before him

>>82346713
>company wars
fuck off

>>82346726
couldn't resist it
I'll behave now. Promise.

How was the credits? Better than Taking a Stand from TWS?

>>82346756
They were pretty cool, whenever a name of an actor came up it would cast a shadow in the form of something involving the character.

>>82346756
TWS has my favorite credit sequence in the whole MCU.

The motif for Civil War were shots of a cracked stone floor with the names in the middle. The shadows on the names made different silhouettes. RDJ had an Iron Man mask, Johannssen had a black widow hourglass, Paul Bettany had a mind gem shadow. Serviceable, but not great.

does anyone have a gif of smug WS and Falcon in the car when Cap scores?

I need it badly

>>82346756

There was some out-of-nowhere pop song that came in at the end of the credits that was really jarring. Does anyone have any idea what that song actually was?

>>82346756
I'd say TWS's credits were artistically better.
however CW's were nice too

>>82346791
It was the QUEENS song. Not pop. Upbeat rock.

Left Hand Free - Alt J

Such a great end credits sequence.

https://youtu.be/npHT5MAFVaE

>>82346807

>not pop, upbeat rock

Fair enough, it just seemed pretty jarring to go from your normal end-credits orchestral music to WELL YOUR LEFT HANDS FREE out of nowhere.

>>82346816
the credit scene in civil war sucked tho.
It was just bucky getting frozen. Nothing about thanos and shit.

>>82346816

>get the best casting for Strucker you possibly good

>Whedon kills him off for NO REASON AT ALL

Even as someone who really liked Age of Utron a lot this still triggered me. He fucking died off-screen!

>>82346836
>the credit scene in civil war sucked tho.
>It was just bucky getting frozen. Nothing about thanos and shit.
I prefer this. Civil War is basically the beginning of things, not the conclusion. So there is no need to talk about what is "next", when current issues are still unresolved.

Basically, at some stage, Tony is going to have to go to Steve Rogers, and GIVE Rogers his shield. Steve is basically letting Tony decide if Steve should really own that shield or not, as the son of its creator.

>>82346836

>not remembering that awesome spider signal

>>82346836
if i had to see thanos look mildly disinterested and threatening in the camera one more time i would've projectile vomited into the screen

thanos has one whole movie to prop him up as the biggest bad of the MCU

>>82346867
What was that thing?

>>82346884
>What was that thing?
Something from the comics that most people who only knew the cartoons wouldn't know about.

>>82346047
Seconding this

>>82346756
Pretty lame compared to Winter Soldier, to be honest. The soundtrack overall was also nowhere near as good, but maybe I need to give it another listen before I make a final judgment. Is it already out?

>>82345093
>>82345113
So the Russos basically cave in to executive meddling. That's a good business move. I say fuck "creative differences".

>>82346902

It was in Spectacular Spider-Man brospeh.

>>82346909

It's on Spotify for Australians only.

>>82346909
>>82346719

>>82346920
It was in comics you nigger

>>82346884
been around since the 60s
It was so nice seeing it in a live action film. I was always afraid it'd look stupid

>I was wrong

whedon in 2012 - let's make it a blue cube and a blue staff to show they're connected!

whedon in 2015 - oh fuck we need another infinity gem for some reason oh fuck we used the blue one already oh fuck just say it's a yellow gem in a blue housing, that'll work

i'm still mad

Would you pet Redwing /co/?

>>82346991
Ayup.

I remember all the rampant fan speculation after the Avengers film about the staff containing another gem and in reply Feige and co. stated clearly that it was just an extension of the cube's power, and not one in its own right.

Then in AOU they went back on that and made it a gem. Now poor old Vis gets to have it ripped off his fivehead come IW.

>>82347085
If Thanos pulled that gem off, would he die?

>>82345430
That's Daredevils line...

>>82347106
It would be painful.

>>82347116
>being this casual
It's Rand acting like DD

>>82347068
heck yeah.

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>>82346343

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I loved everything with GiAnt-Man. Do you think he'll do it again in Ant-Man and The Wasp?

>>82345026

Also the fact Tony goes nuts when his friend is hit by Vision but if Vision hit Falcon he would of had the same fate if not worse.

Would Tony or War Machine of stopped to save Falcon?

>>82346220
>Wanda or her husbando having one shot at IG Thanos

keep dreaming, that nigga btfo'd Eternity

Can I ask what the introduction of Spider-man in this film is like?

Has he been actively doing things in New York and attracting attention or is he an urban rumor that Tony investigates or what?

>>82347212
He said he's had his powers for 6 months. When Tony meets him he shows Peter a few videos of Spider-Man doing things, which Peter says is all just CGI stuff and from youtube.

So he's active, but not really a big name yet.

>>82347212
option A.

Did anyone think they made the Winter Soldier's out to look like the Justice League for a bit of a laugh? The main one looked exactly like Cavill.

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>>82347232

alright, cool. I just wondered how the were gonna introduce him. Obviously Homecoming will be the big introduction. Now I just wonder who the villain in it will be. Hopefully Mysterio

>>82346836
I don't need more Thanos, but I would have liked something else set up. Maybe something with Thor and Hulk as they were both mentioned at one point in the film.