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one hs threat a day, keeps lord english away
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>>82261359
Man, this pasta is getting some mileage.
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anyone know which song is played in this mayor flash?
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>>82261466
>this mayor flash
what mayor flash?
it's probably vagabounce anyway.
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>>82261466
Who the fuck is mayor
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>>82261525
http://static1.e926.net/data/e2/a6/e2a69f72e293bef49d70ad4a5cd12675.swf

this one, wanted to add it but couldnt make it through the captcha the entire time
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Do you think the epilogue will confirm Davejade or Davekat?

If you think either has already been proven then you're just a delusional shipping faggot whose opinion has little to no merit.
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>>82261652
davekat is confirmed by hussie himself

https://40.media.tumblr.com/efa6c469e932c137a0265a6803ede5cb/tumblr_o4zgvq2Hz31u31j44o1_400.jpg
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>>82261595
>Get Down
WHAT FUCKING YEAR IS THIS
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>>82261652
confirmed by hussie himself yea
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>>82261707
>imp lying that's hussie
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>>82261765
>Get Down
thanks !
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>>82261785
https://m.reddit.com/r/homestuck/comments/4ddtb0/proof_andrew_hussie_ipgd_2016_vine/

happy now?
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You know, the Battlefield was way cooler than Prospit and Derse. It had castles and farms and shit. I'm disappointed we didn't get to spend more time on the Battlefield.
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>>82261466
>>82261595
IT'S LITERALLY IN THE TOP RIGHT BEFORE YOU PRESS PLAY YOU FUCKING COLOSSAL GOOFBALL
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>>82261769
Wait a second those lips aren't anywhere near big enough, I smell a ruse
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>>82262026
WE ARE THE F U C K I N G C O L O S S A L G O O F B A L L B O Y S
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Man, I forgot how much John/Rose baiting there was in Seer: Descend.
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hey, someone a few threads prior recommended rice boy as an example of a good comic
http://www.rice-boy.com/see/
it was okay. major spoilers: i feel kinda cheated out by the ending. TOE being the fulfiller could have worked, sure, even though i'm sorta disappointed about rice boy not having done much, except find the tower.
there's so much left unanswered too. like i've got a big list of plot points i'd like an answer to, that's pretty frustrating. are the answers in the other comics? argh. sure, that ending was leagues better than homestuck's, but it still leaves me wanting more.
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Post your current fav troll list.

Top Tier
Aradia
Sollux
Tavros

Good Tier
Kanaya
Terezi
Equius
Nepeta
Eridan

Who Tier
Feferi

Shit Tier
Gamzee

Colossal Shit Tier
Karkat
Vriska
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>>82262544
>>82262544

Top Tier
karkat
vriska

Good Tier
gamzee
Kanaya
Terezi
Equius
sollux

Who Tier
Feferi
eridan

Shit Tier
tavros

Colossal Shit Tier
aradia
nepeta
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>>82262544
Top Tier
Gamzee
Terezi
Equius
Karkat (Pre-Retcon)

Good Tier
Eridan
Vriska
Sollux
Tavros

Who Tier
Feferi
Aradia
Kanaya

Shit Tier
Nepeta

Colossal Shit Tier
Karkat (Post-Retcon)
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>>82263031
muh blue
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is huzzie going to do any more interviews? it seems like ipgd is the only person that sort of communicates with the community but he/she/it seems to be acting like a total douche most of the time
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>>82263031
i literally came
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>>82263119
Probably not. At best we'll get a bitter newspost talking about the game whenever the fuck he decides to drop the update.
I mean fuck, its not like open communication would help keep people vaguely interested after the shitshow eoa7 was.
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>>82263119
look forward promotional content for Hiveswap with no mention of the epilogue or non-homestuck projects
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>>82263031
Snoop Dogg x Meulin best ship
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>>82263031
What's the story behind this broad? I see her pictures every so often in these threads
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I wonder what part IPGD played in Hussie's current emotional state. I can see her being supportive (she wouldn't be so close to him if she wasn't) but maybe she's also enabling his more awful behaviors, for example total radio silence (she enjoys the attention that comes with being the Mouth of the Huss, it seems).
Time will tell. Maybe.
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>>82263347
an anon that cosplayed as Nepeta and Meulin at Katsucon

also gave an underage Dave a blowjob in a bathroom stall
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>>82261312
i wasted too much time on this
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>>82263407
shit those legs are so thiccc
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>>82262544
(Good taste m8.)
Here's mine.

Top tier:
Terezi, Tavros, Aradia

OK tier:
Equius, Kanaya, Sollux

Who tier:
Nepeta, Feferi, Eridan

Unfunny joke tier:
Gamzee, Vriska, Karkat
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>>82263407
H-Holy shit, story?
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>>82263407
MORE LIKE PANTSUCON AMIRITE
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>>82262491
guy that recced that here, glad you read it; i liked that twist honestly but i can understand if someone didn't.

there are technically two other comics, and i think the author has plans to do a direct sequel at some point.

if you're looking for another story, i'd recommend digger.
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>>82263490
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>>82263466
Nice, here is a small fix
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>>82263843
thats amazing
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>>82263843
thanks
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I'm pretty hype for Epilogue Act 1, are you guys? Can't wait to see how our heroes sort out the mess and defeat Lord English.
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The epilogue will be Homestuck 2.0
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>>82262544
Top Tier
Aradia, Tavros, Equius

Shit Tier

The Rest

Colossal Shit Tier
Vriska
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>>82264030
Starring DANTE BASCO as DAVID STRIDER
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>>82263816
>tfw you will never be a qt shota again and have thick lusty 20 year old cosplays hunger for your underage dick
Does this chick have a handle or archive I can look up?
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>>82264087
Homestuck - the feature film
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>>82263953
>>82264030
I am ready. I'm not hype and I'm not happy, but I am ready.
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>>82263407
>Katsucon
got more pics of her or her name for research purposes?
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It's so lame that we're stuck with a YouTube quality encoding of the ending. Look at that banding. Look at those artifacts. Disgusting.
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>>82264261
yeah why dont we demand hussie to publicly apologyse for making a shitty webcomic he made for free and we chose to watch?
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>>82264261
it still rustle my jimmies that when its doing the Jade shot in collide you see a huge red box around the metor
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>>82264305
>free
Hussie fuck off
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>>82264261
That's fine, it's part of the anime experience. However COLLIDE which was clearly made for Flash viewing had a shot where Condy definitely looked like she had a harelip because of the quality loss.
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>>82264305
He absolutely should apologize for subjecting us to blocking this bad.
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>>82264370
>the betas never posed as a team
>the alphas never posed as a team
>all 8 kids never posed as a team
>all the survivors never posed as a tem
>The plan went without a hitch without any of the teams swapping villans at any point
Good that ending was a mess
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>>82264221
>>82264140
>>82263816
>>82263407

My curiosity has ben piqued as well, I need such information FOR SCIENCE
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>>82264305
How about instead we demand Hussie give his donors regular updates on the status of the game they paid for?
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>>82264477
That's a fair point. I've paid at least $500 for Homestuck merchandise over six years, I'm well within my rights to complain.
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>>82264477
that is in fact a more reasonable approach i could agree on! now it just seems he is ripping the donors off, last youtube udate i saw was a video from a year ago
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>>82264477
>mfw I forgot to donate
>mfw I didn't ruin homestuck
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT6.php?s=6&p=009347

this is the most perfect ending for homestuck and is far more satisfactory and fulfilling than what came later on.
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>>82264560
I would include the next page as well
Just end on that, a "weird puzzle shit" flash with music lifted from a movie soundtrack
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Name a better flash than Descend.
Protip: it's unlikely there is a better one
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>>82264835
Jade: Enter
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OK
So. Today I finally caught up to this fucking comic, and I'm just done watching Act 7.
WHAT THE FUCK???

I don't even know what to say. I started reading a year ago and I can't imagine how 2009 readers feel about this ending. It's like a joke.
They should move April's Fools to the 13th in honor of that finale, Jesus Christ. That's so fucked up. Does anyone know when the epilogue will drop??
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>>82264950
http://mspainsadventures.tumblr.com/000001
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>>82265007
>>82264950
Who's Hussie going to outsource for the epilogue? Is it finally Angel's time to shine?
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>>82265007
>I don't tate no for an answer
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>>82265007
>making your own epilogue before the canon one even happens
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One of the cool things about Descend and Jade: Enter is that they both have Problem Sleuth references

Not so many of those later on in the comic
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>>82265007
There's no way I'm reading some shitty fan epilogue about Vriska.
I'd rather wait for the shitty canon epilogue about Vriska. At least it'll get her quirk right.
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>>82262491
here's something else that's really good too

http://kiwisbymirror (dot) rf (dot) gd/?ckattempt=1

GOD PLEASE COME BACK AAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>82264449
>last page of the epilogue is "pose as a team, the world is real"
>it actually is real, hussie hired cosplayers to pose for the last page
>they aren't cosplayers, it's actually a screenshot from the live action homestuck movie
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>>82264140
>>82264469
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dDXmPUaOuw&feature=youtu.be&t=3m23s - Nepeta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=peCAjy2w83w#t=2760 - Nepeta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4aUHz7UeSU - The Meulin
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>>82265322
Thank you
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>>82262544
Top tier
Everyone but Vriska

Ultimate shit tier
Vriska
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The most logical date for the epilogue would be 12th of June, right?
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>>82265322
>Jake cosplayer takes off his shirt for no reason
of course
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>>82265322
This creeps me out. Seriously.
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>>82265465
I think you mean October 25th
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>>82265513
The most logical next date, sorry.
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>>82265465
>>82265549
Unless he was only pretending not to care, Hussie isn't aiming for any specific deadlines for the rest.
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>>82265465
Hussie could do a Problem Sleuth style epilogue right now, I wonder what's stopping him? Other than him not giving a shit, of course.
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>>82265509
the rping in the videos or the fact someone saved those links? blame ben
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>>82265595
I think the only way for him to get himself to do it is through self-imposed deadlines so if he doesn't set one soon then it will be a very, very long time before we see that epilogue
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>>82265620
>I wonder what's stopping him?
being in and out of a mental institution since the last hiatus
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>>82265640
I have a cock
who is the most likely HS character to jump on it the second i drop my pants
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>>82265667
it goes without saying, Damara
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>>82265623
The rping, the fact that someone would pretend to be a fictional character from a piece like Homestuck. There is something that just feels wrong to me.
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>>82265667
Like cosplay wise?
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>>82265663
Is this one of those things where you force a meme repeatedly until we accept it as true?
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>>82265747
do you have a better explanation for why Hussie had nothing to do with End of Homestuck
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>>82262544

Top Tier

Sollux
Aradia
Eridan
Equius

Good Tier

Terezi
Karkat
Feferi

Who Tier

Tavros
Nepeta

Shit Tier

Kanaya
Gamzee

Shit Shittington of Shittonshire Tier

Vriska
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>>82265762
okay this is pretty good, it has all my favorite characters
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>>82265762
>that Doc
hahaha
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>>82265210
oh man thank you for this. it's such a fucking tragedy. does anyone know what actually happened? did ryan armand just die, and no one paid the server bill? or is this an artist shitfit in progress?
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>>82262544
OFFICIAL LIST

TOP
aradia
vriska
sollux
kanaya

OKAY
the rest

ABSOLUTELY SHIT
Gamzee
Tavros
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i thought it was actually funny they sang midnight crew with the audience
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>>82265762
>Roxy elbowing the girl who's fucking her daughter for her
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>>82265007
Bless you, kind soul, for providing unto us what is bound to be the cringeworthy antics of a dipshit attempting to redeem the irredeemable. Let us dive head first into this menagerie of fiery bullshit together, because if you can't choke on the mile of rage snake being forcibly shoved down your windpipe, you can at least ask the guy next to you for a good, long strangle.

Fuck it, /co/ should rewrite the ending. Any garbage we produce will be better than the festering pile of rodent-laced shit smeared across the ass-end of Hussie's so-called 'ending.'
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Epilogue will be a fake-out and we'll get Act 8 which is about Vriska immediately turning on everyone else. post-juju Dave does kill LE, with the welsh cueball sword, but it's a Heroic death, a fact with does not go unnoticed. things spiral out of control from there.
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>>82262544

SINGLE BLACK FEMALE tier
Meenah
Terezi
Kanaya

BRO TIER
Equius
Nepeta
Tavros

SHIT TIER
Karkat
Eridan
Sollux
Aradia
Feferi

THE REASON HOMESTUCK IS SHIT
Vriska
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>>82266271
>implying the epilogue won't be an "everyone is happy and here are the ships, also Terezi is happy that someone is back, but it cuts to the end"
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>>82266271
I don't think they get to see the HEROIC and JUST things, and I'm not sure LE gets one after his clock got busted.
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>>82266211
>mfw /trash/ thread
>dubs decide minor plot points
>triples decide major plot points
>multi-choice strawpolls are held
>some absolute madman gets to work
>the /co/pilogue is born
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>>82266334
>implying andrew will confirm anything more than rose/kanaya
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>>82266390
>>82266211
Can you see it now, anon? It would be glorious.
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would it be weird if I wrote up a complete metastuck adventure in psudeo-problem sleuth style?
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>>82266467
>implying the epilogue won't be shit with zero hype for hiveswap
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Reminder:
>>>Late Act 6
>Wow, there sure are a lot of plot points Hussie will need to deal with. I trust him! I know he can do it. He did it with Problem Sleuth.
>>>Collide
>Huh, OK, most villains are dead. There's still a lot of plot left, I hope he won't forget that one thing that's important to me in the next two pages.
>>>Act 7
>...There's going to be more! He'll write an epilogue. It'll answer our questions, I'm sure!

What is to be expected:
>>>Epilogue
>Um... Uh... really? That's the end for good now. I guess there's still Hiveswap. There might be some answers there.
>>>Hiveswap
>Well, we can wait for Hiveswap 2. The one that takes place on Earth. Right, guys? Right???

Repeat ad nauseam.
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>>82266331
>Kanaya
>black
lol
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>>82266595
Fucking Chinagirl
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OFFICIAL CANON ETHNICITIES

TAVROS
RUFIOH
both filipino

ARADIA
DAMARA
both asian schoolgirls

MEENAH
FEFERI
black booty

THAT IS IT.
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>>82266390
>Some drawfag puts it into color
>Whole thing uploaded on MSPAFA
>Fanbase likes it better than the canon ending
>yfw 4chan writes the true epilogue of Homestuck
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>>82266595
She's attractive and not an annoying bitch.

So yeah, Black. You boys hypnotized by these silly white hos
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Slutty Feet Tier: Roxy, Rose, Meenah, Aradia, John, Tavros, Kanaya, Aranea

Prudish peds: Everyone else
i paid Andrew himself to have this discussion with me at a con and this is all canon
i swear
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>>82266692
> implying that Karkat isn't Spiclord
> implying Kanaya isn't Chinagirl
> implying Terezi isn't Jap
> implying Eridan isn't Irish Potato Famine
> Implying Equius isn't a Nigerian warlord
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>>82266046
he hasn't updated since october, technically, but i know he's still around since he liked a tumblr post from February.

h-he has to come back
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>>82266740
We need someone to get on this.
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>>82266783
I POSTED CANON
C
A
N
O
N
100% CONFIRMES
ETHNICITIES
NOT MADE UP HEADCANON
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>>82266692
OFFICIAL CANON ETHICALITIES

VRISKA
(VRISKA)
ARANEA
CONDY
irredeemable bitch slut

DAMARA
PORRIM
FEFERI
only sexually treacherous

ARADIA
MEENAH
actually a terrible person but IT'S CUTE SO FUCK YOU

NEPETA
KANAYA
LATULA
too innocent to be attractive

MEULIN
not actually as innocent as she appears in fact it's kind of dark what she does to people with her powers

TEREZI
clounhole
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>>82266821
> blatantly massive faggot
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>>82266744
Something's wrong with your logic there, anon.
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>>82266692
>feferi is troll black

people forget this and it's sad
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Vriska is not going to narrate the epilogue. It'll be Kankri.
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no I will narrate the epilogue
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>>82266744
she reads for pleasure, anon. she has a personal work ethic. anon. stop. stop trying to negrotize other peoples waifus.
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What ethnicity would Eridan be? He strikes me as a Britbong.
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>>82266903
german xD
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This is the most underrated album
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>>82266903
Scottish
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>>82266925
mm no i think it's well deserved
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I honestly hope that the reason Hussie takes his time with the epilogue is that he's reading Homestuck from the beginning so that he knows what needs explanation and/or closure.
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Why is Karkat the most hated character right now?
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>>82266987
yeah well how about fuck you
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>>82267007
everything karcrap did caliborn did better
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>>82267007
Because we got bored of bitching about the real most hated character, Vriska.
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>>82267007
He was my favorite character in the entire comic until Hussie fucking shit all over him and his fans for no reason
Sure Karkat was kinda a doofus but he was never a fucking useless, whiny bitch like he is in the later parts of act 6
It's fucking heartbreaking to seem him LITERALLY CRY in Collide
That's not the Karkat I know
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>>82266903
A great number of his characteristics fit with classic Britbong themes in a modern, hipster body; most notably his seafaring prowess, desire to conquer and general aristocratic snobbery. Problem is, that whole aristocratic snob theme doesn't go too well with his social ineptitude, so he could honestly fit as one of those fashionable Scandinavian lot, they always seem a bit off when speaking/listening to them.
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Vriska did nothing wrong.
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>>82267007
this >>82267032, Caliborn completely ganked his character and at the same time Karkat himself changed off-camera to become very bland and just ridiculous.
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>>82267091
nobody did anything wrong
they were corralled into their behavior by paradox space
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>>82266903
>>82267087
I was just about to say, SWEDEN YES. Especially if he ever does/did/were-to come back and 'get better' from his murderosity.
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You cannot fairly judge Caliborn for his actions because he is a red cherub and cannot help himself.
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>>82266925
I didn't find it very memorable, to be honest. It was all a lot of chaotic orchestral music, some way too experimental (some Felt album tracks fall into the same trap).

>>82266996
If he was, he wouldn't have said he's just "been thinking about [an epilogue] for some time" and "not in a huge hurry at this point."
Really, I think he just stopped giving a shit.

>>82267007
Karkat has the biggest buildup in the entire story and the lowest amount of payoff.
The GO timeline gave him a bit of character development but all of that went away and now his arc is on par with Vriska's: as linear and flat as a dead man's heart rate monitor.
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>Ways to improve Homestuck:
Get rid of Beforus Trolls
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>>82267211
Can we remove all but the top 4 Alternian trolls from our poll yesterday?
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A'ight, smut fic, which means time to break out all the oversexed body headcanons
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>>82267185
You are a disgusting human being and I hope you choke on your own saliva, you stupid SJW. If we hate Caliborn, it's because we don't give a shit about any excuses you muster up. If you were repeatedly stabbed by someone and that someone went on to kill your entire family, I bet you would defend them because your precious cinnamon bun couldn't control them.
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>>82267262
Why does /hst/ love equius so much?
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>>82261426

What's funny is that I got a warning about it:

"The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments."

>quality of posts
>high-quality images
>informative comments

A-are all the janitors this disconnected from reality?
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>>82267205
I agree that it's not especially memorable but what I like about it is that it really nailed an atmosphere. It's like I'm really chilling with the consorts!
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>>82267267
Hey, Rose has had a slutty form since birth. You can't blame me for lusting over every inch of her.
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>>82267267
Roxy attempts to get in on the psychoanalysis that the rest of her family are so good at, notices Rose is always trying to grill Dave for momlust and had tons of mommy issues herself, decides to become sigmund fucking freud and widely declare that Rose has an Oedipus complex.

I don't know where this leads into a bedroom actually but you have your own imagination.
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>>82262544
top tier
vriska
eridan (he dindu nuffin)
aradia


good tier
terezi
kanaya
equius
gamzee
tavros

who tier
feferi (i think wwe can all agree on this one)

shit tier
karkat (annoying pre and post)
sollux

colossal shit tier
nepeta (literally only there as a parody of annoying people and their ships)
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>mfw have had all these ideas for a SBURB-themed fangame since 2013
>none of this 3D MMORPG bullshit, actual ideas that could lead to a small and manageable adaptation
>three years later I'm still a baby programmer and i can never finish the cool stuff i start
>it doesn't matter anyway, homestuck is over, the community has moved on, and there wouldn't be anybody to play that fangame
it hurts.
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>>82267276
are you ok
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>>82267281
Well I certainly can't speak for the collective but, considering the trolls are supposed to be an odd, violent alien race, Equius was always the best example of that. From his design, way of speaking, characteristics and interests the dudes got so many interesting things about him that it's no wonder people like him. The same could be said about Eridan, though to a lesser degree of course.
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>>82267115

Thirding this. The ANGRY BUT EFFECTIVE SHOUTY GUY thing worked very well for Karkat. But he didn't really have the power to back it up. As some of the trolls said, they mostly went along with his plans to shut him up, but when they saw they were working, etc.

Caliborn didn't need to do that. He just has this hilarious rage against fucking everything, and can just sperg out willy nilly and fuck shit up.
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>>82267358
Nah I already know Roxy's role, she's going to be ignorant of Rose's whoring but Rose is gonna be so abused over the fact she wants to fuck her mommy. And her brother. And basically her whole family.
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>>82267361
If it counts for anything, Anon, I'd love you play your game.
Might not want to call it anything Sburb/Homestuck related though, you might get a call from WhatPumpkin lawyers.
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>>82267211

Thing is, I would love a story about the Beforus trolls. But I would want a full story. Not a bunch of minor scenes in the comic, but like a legit spinoff comic.

It would never happen, plus we know the ending, so meh, but it would be interesting.
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>>82267417
That was the thing I didn't like Caliborn for. He just felt like Mean Karkat.
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>>82267353
Would you?
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>>82262544
Top Tier
Sollux
Aradia
Sollux

Good Tier
Kanaya
Equius

Meh Tier
Karkat
Gamzee
Nepeta
Feferi

Shit Tier
Terezi
Vriska
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>>82267469
Damn it, i always do this. 22nd Sollux should be Eridan.
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>>82267466
YES
YES I WOULD
IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED FROM ME
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what are the telltale signs of a Homestuck OC being a sue?
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>>82267431
That's lame. I thought you were looking for a fic starter, my bad.
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>>82267466
that's one cummy baby!
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>>82267521
Being a Homestuck OC.
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>>82267521
noncanon classpects
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>>82267007
HE
CREATED
VRISKA

HE GAVE HOMESTUCK CANCER
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>>82267460
and karkat is literally just mean dave

someone once swapped their quirks and they were indistinguishable.
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>>82267460
>>82267571
>rude assholes are all the same people despite being completely different

nice comprehension peanut brains
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>>82267571
>mean dave
Don't you mean John? Because I remember people doing that when the upd8 hit.
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>>82267591
>>82267602
point is hussie isn't THAT good at distinct character voices.
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>>82267571
That'd be a cool gimmick idea. Pick a page, hit a converter, and it changes quirks around so they talk like that. Might have happened years ago, not today.
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>>82267636
they're all their own, just when you compare the ones that are most similar surprise surprise they are sort of similar
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>>82267469
>sollux is here twice
also i suppose tavros belongs to your 'literally who' category since he isn't even on your corrected list

>>82267437
aw, thanks. i don't really see the point of making it my own IP though, the whole point is to fulfill that lifelong dream so many homestuck readers have, that is, to play sburb with a bunch of friends.
otherwise it'd just be a terraria clone, but with an alchemy/combat focus instead of digging/building. and a room-based land generation approach, plus some RPG elements, maybe.
it'd be free, with a small donation box somewhere on the website, so i'm sure what pumpkin would be 100% ok with it.
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>>82267636
It's kind of genius. He gets away with it because of quirks and pesterlog colors.
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>>82267591
that wasn't what I said

I said he just seemed too much like writing Karkat but as a mean stupid asshole, it didn't have as much of its own voice
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>>82267571
>someone once swapped their quirks and they were indistinguishable.
got any of that
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>>82266508
do what you want, man
>>82267361
anon pls, there will always be someone invested in homestuck, make the game, follow your dreams
i almost typed in bee instead of be
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>>82267361
Interest in this comic isn't going away for a long time. The faddish fans that swole MSPA's popularity have already moved on, and what remains likes Homestuck, Problem and Sleuth for what they actually are and not for what their characters incidentally facillitate (ie oc faggotry).

I'd say you've never had a clearer audience now than ever.
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>>82267672
didnt know john/dave/caliborn/karkat were all 'kind of similar'
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>>82267683
It was kind of an amazing way to fool you into feeling like some characters are distinct or at least keep them feeling very distinct in your head. Each quirk and color lent its own idea of a personality to each character, even the many barebones shallow ones.
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>>82267512
yes

now, explain in detail what you would do to baby rose
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>>82267704
dude the forums are fucking dead and most fans have LONG moved on to new shit

this is just the last summer before the burn and the epilogues sweeping the rest of the trash away
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>>82267705
caliborn and karkat are really, really similar to the point that when he first showed up they thought he was karkat's kid or something

karkat and dave are a little similar and john is a little similar to dave when dave is relaxed
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>>82267466
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>>82267760
When he first showed up before I just dropped the comic I thought he was going to be some sort of weird dead timeline Karkat who never knew the others or something, some radical divergent line or another
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>you will never murder Lexxy for forcing the turtleneck Karkat meme
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>>82267703
hm, i suppose. but, you know, MSPAF is daoots, tumblr has moved on to the next fandom of the moment... who's left, HSG and reddit? ah well. that's still a good hundred regular players if i'm lucky.

>>82267704
>oc faggotry
but anon, if character customization is involved, then that would be a major selling point!
a major selling point if i made money with it, i mean.

i guess i'll start working on it this summer, if i don't get too invested in my other projects. wish me luck. or don't be afraid to ask questions about my plans for the game, if you want to.
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>>82267794
It's kind of a shame that we never really got any Bizarro evil twin characters like that. Hussie missed an opportunity to make a Star Trek reference and give them a goatee.
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>>82267741
The forum's weird nuking hasn't caused the fans based there to just vanish. You can see their impact here and in other places.
>most of the fans
Yes? This was addressed.

If people can still excitedly talk about AIDS and Jailbreak and random Scriblettes, I really don't see Homestuck vanishing any time soon.
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>>82267847
Why I liked that meme

I just hated that everyone else had to get in on it

It's funny for how such a conceptually dull design he has he's still really distinct and stands out

Or did, anyways
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>>82267677
Yeah, I'm sure they would be too.
I only suggested an original IP in the event you wanted to monetize it at all, and since I'm an artist myself I just assumed you would want to since I know how hard getting your work out can be without being able to support yourself on it.
Do you have any other playable games you'd be willing to link in the thread?
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>>82265762
>caliborn's tongue green and not black

D R O P P E D
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>>82267885
>Dancestors
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Did they survive?
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>>82267854
there's bound to be another website you could use, and just at the moment it's not "in-vouge" to be a homestuck fan over there, once they get out of their "I'M TRASH I'M TRASH LMAO" stage for liking homestuck some of them will come back, and like you said, there's always HSG and reddit
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>>82267885
I dunno about bizarro evil. That'd be dumb. I just thought what would eventually turn into the Alt Calliope idea we'd see with Karkat. Maybe as a limeblood, maybe as a crazed loner using the 13th sign, something interesting.

Caliborn was just underwhelming. "He is already here" but heonly shows up in Act 6 and barely does any of the cool shit like the Felt Intermission had.
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>>82267926
Both the ancestors and the dancestors were mostly irrelevant characters. The closest thing we have to a protagonist/antagonist pair is Meenah and the Condesce, but they're actually the same person.
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>>82267854
I'm sure you understand the difference between oc and oc faggotry. The crowd that moved into Homestuck circa Act 5 were formerly of the Hetalia fandom and others of their ilk, who follow works of fiction primarily for shipping drama, a cast of special snowflakes, and obnoxious OC potential. Same with MLP and Sonic for that matter.

There's nothing wring with designing a character alone, it's the basis for all role-playing just for instance. But there's that and the oc junkies if you. And they've moved on. You wouldn't even want to try and appeal to them. There's bigger game in town now for them, and they'd only eat you alive like they did with Hussie anyway.
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>>82265762
Why do they all have downs syndrome
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I want to see what Empress Peixes looked like
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>>82267990
The roleplaying was always fucking hilarious to me since I've been doing it as a casual hobby for decades and hanging /tg/ (before it got boring).

Bunch of fuckin' amateurs let me tell you
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>>82265762
>shirtless Caliborn/Equius showdown

kek'd
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>>82268021
Biggest. Fucking. Tits.

Whatever you're thinking? Way bigger.
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>>82267969
Up til the end of the Gigapause I was sure that the twist with Homosuck Act 3 was going to be that Karkat really was going to be a Limeblood, but when LE entered Universe A he changed Karkat's blood to cherry red in his own image, as Karkat reminded him of his younger self.

So Karkat didn't just give B cancer, but was symbolic of the LE cancer that always was in Universe A.
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>>82267521
having a blood mutation or being a lime or fushia blood
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>>82268058
well that fits with her (s)mothering personality
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>>82268073
I thought we'd go SOMEWHERE with the missing limebloods and Calliope and how Karkat was Blood and literal troll jesus. Something. Anything?

Nothing.
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>>82267938
If Aradia dies it will be the biggest waste ever, she's perfectly set up to be a recurring guide/tutorial character across many new stories.
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How would Empress Fef dealt with a Fuchsia blood princess?
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I want to see Karkat tying up an aroused Mindfang.>>82268021
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>>82268131
I 100% thought the white void would turn into the white void of Problem Sleuth with Caliborn raging inside of the black hole he can't escape while Aradia as Death asks if we want to play another game

I feel like that Huss is long gone though
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>>82267905
>Giving Karkat wings
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>>82268152
Hugs. Lots and lots and lots of long, cooing, full body hugs.
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>>82268184
That was made before Hussie decided he... doesn't get any?
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>>82268152
Didn't Meenah practically exile herself to get away from her cutesy grasp?
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I just watched [S] Cascade.

I'm sorry for bitching at you guys all those years ago for your shitty fucking webcomic bumping my Avatar threads to page 10.

I'm sorry for not giving this comic a chance.

All those wasted years.

Goddamn that was something special.
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>>82268253
great you just finished the comic congrats
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>>82268253
Ok you gotta stop there though
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>>82268253
lol don't tell him
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>>82268250
I completely forgot that Karkat and the others still existed on Beforus either as still alive people like Fef or as people of legends

Too bad that particular part was never elaborated on.
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>>82268250
>fishstick bitch Meenah running to the Pink Moon just to avoid Total Titty Time with the Empress for hours every day

haha fucking weak dyke can't handle the bounty
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>>82268253
>All those wasted years.
I could say the same thing, but for opposite reasons.
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>>82267854
So what are your plans for it? And what language? Depending on the language, there might be others who would be able to contribute (myself included, I work in game dev but I'm not a trained programmer, picked it up as a hobby). I'd love to see where it all goes.
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Let's warn new readers which characters they should avoid following.

I'll start with these obvious ones.

>Karkat
>Vriska
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>>82268313
maybe we'll see the Ancendants in Hiveswap
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>>82268313
>I am going to add another 12 characters to the comic in its twilight period
>Surely this will sell shirts
>I will not expound upon the other matching themes I've introduced
>Yes this is a sound writing decision and I haven't rammed into a brick wall I am desperately trying to climb around while selling all these shitty shirts I can't even write a sound cast of characters for
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I'm reading the ends of a previous thread and this post here >>82260445 just hit me something significant.

Why don't the contents of the lotus capsule get duplicated? No special properties of the capsule besides perfectly preserving something until it opens are given in the comic. There are ways for Hussie to handwave it but until then, it's going on the big question's list.

We should have a second (doomed?) Bec Noir and White King running around. Now seeing Bec Noir react to Crockercorp drones, that would have been interesting. It could've also been used as an excuse for Sawtooth and Squarewave not turning up again, as they were destroyed fighting him off.
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>>82268373
Calliope
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>>82268394
I thought only the baby meteors get duplicated
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>>82268394
It's almost like, in the relatively manageable spread of weird time shit he had going on, Hussie just went way too far scrambling to add more and more twists that never had an impact on anything and it ended up with a fat mess of plot holes

He did an amazing job by the end of making time travel boring, routine, and confusing
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>>82268394
Thinking about it some more, the Frog temple was underwater by the point of Dirk and Roxy's entry. Glb'golyb was furthermore surrounding the temple. Perhaps Bec Noir got caught in an underwater battle with an abomination and ended up drowning/psychic-shrieking until the universe exploded.
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>>82268394
The only duplicating portals are the ones for baby carrying meteors.
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>>82268456
The frog temple and Forge got duplicated as well. As far as I can remember there was no meteor with a frog temple in the B2 Veil. Could be wrong on this.

>>82268467
Boo to you too.
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>>82268394
Skaia chooses which meteors to fork into the new timeline. It's one of the few things it does directly.
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You know what could make Hussie some money or interest? All he has to do is a side comic or book featuring Sburb lore. That's IT. He could write a series with bits of art, like different types of unusual sessions like the Dead/Null/Void ones he outlined. Explain weird sessions and how they variate. Stuff like that. People actually loved that stuff! He just hated doing it apparently.
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>>82268383
This was AFTER Hussie already said that expanding the troll roster when Karkat and Terezi's story started was a huge mistake, too.
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>>82268517
>Boo to you too.

Sorry man. He got super fucking sloppy and it shows. His last twists were shitty and just added to the tangled cord pile.
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>>82268383
>muh homestuck sucks because of shirts
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>>82268517
The Forge is just a naturally-occuring volcano that got brought into SBurb with Jade's house.
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>>82268575
I'm just deeply confused. I get that Homestuck is complete stream of thought, but Hussie abandoned reader commands a very long time ago, and had all that time, and just wrote spiral after spiral after spiral when he had this entire cast of people already made ready to use in some capacity.

I mean it's clear he's not a very bright writer because of how many mistakes he made, and him saying "writing is easy", but wow.
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Anyone got the source in the rumor Hussie ended up ina mental institution recently?
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>>82268615
No, that was just a byproduct of Hussie being a hack.
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>>82268658
Apparently some artists have indirectly batted it around between themselves, I'm looking for the blog entries now
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>>82268658
The source is a post here on 4chan that amounted to "friend of a friend".
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>>82268517
>there was no meteor with a frog temple in the B2 Veil
There was one. It was where Jane made GCat.
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My friend is skipping the intermission even after reading a bit of it and there's nothing I can do about it.
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>>82268531
>He just hated doing it apparently.

any source on that?
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>>82268584
I'm not saying Hussie didn't bite off more than he could just chew with the Kickstarter and Act 6, and that he didn't let a shallow and fickle crowd get to his head. But there's no use being salty about it.

>>82268627
I'm going to have to look that up (along with Scratches in general, which I'm currently researching).

>>82268637
Dude, Hussie is smart. He's got hubris and weird obsessions and insularities and all the other things that tend to crop up, but if there's one thing you can't take from him it's the fact that his brain has many keen uses.
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>>82268728
just tell them that at least three different villains are introduced in the intermission
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>>82268728
you know what to do
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>>82268531
Hussie somehow went from enjoying explaining tedious shit to hating explaining tedious shit and I don't know why.

Supposedly Rachel/SofOwl (Who I'm assuming is also Halftruth) knows that Hussie has a document with all the Classpect info and maybe also misc SBURB lore, but then again it's also Rachel/SoftOwl saying this.
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>>82268253
Yeah man I agree okay now block that website and don't go back the comic ended right there dude I'm serious dude don't
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>>82268747
I don't, it's just my hands-up assumption for why he never bothered. Look at how much people love the shitty Sburb Glitch FAQ.
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>>82267938
of course they did, they survived and were able to buy a nice apartment in can town
;_;7
>>82268253
you wouldn't listen, noooo, now look where you are? seriously though, enjoy.
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>>82268531
I liked Hussie's lore EXCEPT for that shit he pulled with classpects in Act 6, making them "passive" and "active" and rigidly defined and shit
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>>82268253
You know what?

Finish it. Act 6, Act 7, everything.

It'll be a long stupid ride that will leave you ultimately salty and bitter like the rest of us but it's a ride worth taking.

There are still a few characters that aren't shit that you get to meet, still a few really hype moments here and there, and some moments that will, in the moment, seem really cool and innovative but will in time ruin the comic beyond the point of no return.

If there's a point where you should drop the comic, it's a point halfway through the last quarter of the comic that everyone here knows. It'll be really cool and it'll happen right before the comic goes to unspeakable garbage.
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>>82268760
>Dude, Hussie is smart.

He wrote a garbage story for 7 years that went nowhere, he GROSSLY mismanaged his company, ending in shit like letting friends help run it, not even getting shit like hoodie colors right, having What Pumpkin harass artists and drive down interest, and culminated in being so STUPID he didn't have a contract ready for the hipster thieves who took his money. Which was sucky, but how the fuck do you not have a legally binding contract ready to cover your ass before you just throw money at someone a country away?

Hussie is an idiot. Meanwhile Toby is practically swatting down offers and demands for his brand while he calmly rakes in millions.
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>>82268906
Hussie and Toby are like the Goofus and Gallant of being a content creator.
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>>82268872
They... they could always go back and read it. It's not like there's some door preventing them from doing it.

I mean, let them go on ahead, and when the Scratch intermission comes and they don't know who these weird green guys are and who this big angry looking fellow is just shrug your shoulders. It's their fault if they want to ruin their own reading experience.
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>>82268881
Yeah that was hot nasty trash. Nobody fucking wanted that. Nobody cares your forcing boys and girls to certain lines with vague active/passive meandering. What he fuck does Blood do? One paragraph, Hussie. It might help us understand why Karkat is so garbage.

Too much trouble. Characters don't HAVE arcs. Anti-climaxes are smart and funny after the 20th time. Post-modern irony writing that goes nowhere is so fucking GOOD.
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>>82267938
No.

They were erased alongside everybody else. Like they should've.

ptchoooo. gone.
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>>82268906
Man, when you put it all together like that there really is no redeeming Hussie. The era where snarky web 2.0 humor alone could carry you to stardom is over.
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>>82268956
>nobody cares your forcing boys and girls to certain lines with vague active/passive meandering.

t. mad transperson mad about classic myth playing into universe creation story
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>>82268942
Hussie fires half of his staff, moves to ultra-costly New York City, and is already 4 years into a game that has been scrapped and started over again!

Guess what you drooling fuckwit, making video games is not a childhood dream, it's a nasty difficult dragged out business that rewards nothing and eats everything. But sure! Just shit a game out using Kickstarted in the middle of your comic, no big, right?
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>>82267919
(Switching to Caps mode since this is turning into a serious discussion! Which is neat.)
For now I don't really have to worry about money yet, just the occasional donation would be alright. Maybe in the end, if the game really stands out on its own, I could just reskin everything, change a few mechanics, switch active development to that version and charge for it. (But that'd be shady as fuck, wouldn't it. I dunno.)

I've got an itch.io but it's been gathering dust for a while and I don't know if I feel comfortable linking it here. Maybe I'll make a throwaway email later if you're really curious!
...But really, I'm still a beginner/average dev, and that's using Game Maker. Making something in a real language is going to be a bit tough. (Then again, WP is making Hiveswap in Unity, IIRC, and GM isn't much worse, so who knows)

>>82267990
Ideally I'd like to include some form of roleplay support in my game, but yeah. I don't really want the more intense crowd as my main playerbase. That's just asking for trouble.

>>82268372
If you're comfortable with the unprofessional mess that GM can be at times, then sure, I'd love some help and support!
First and foremost I'd try to set up some basic online multiplayer. That's something I've never done before, so I hope it'll be solid before I get to the rest. Ideally you'd play the game with your internet buddies, or some meatspace friends over LAN.
I've got a rough idea of what I want land generation, building and the alchemy system to be, so I can expand on those if you'd like.
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>>82268131
>biggest waste ever

Anon we've talked about this.

Almost every aspect of Homestuck was a waste of potential in some sense/ from somebody's point of view.
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Does anyone have more art of Jasprosesprite^2's cute little pawsie wawsies?
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>>82268906
"Smart" can mean more than one thing, dumbass.

Hussie's a good writer. He does a lot of shit things, but those shit things are because of stupid choices he made a while ago.

Homestuck failed because somewhere around the Kickstarter Hussie lost track of the plot, and had to spend all of A66 trying to get it back on track, up to and including rewriting all of Act 6.

That's why Act 7 is so bad. Because it's the ending to a story Hussie stopped writing in 2012.
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>>82268989
No, I just saw it as a transparent feign to get everyone all riled up and bleating about the stupid shit. From a creative perspective, WHY would you do that? Why would you tell your rabid fans making unprecedented loads of content that 'nah only some of you can be this and that' in some shitty jRPG creation myth?
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>>82269023
I'm glad this artist settled on the universal constant of cute butts instead of trying to tackle the mystery of what this character has on the other side.
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>>82269026
>Hussie's a good writer.
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>>82269023
are those her feet?
why boner? why?
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>>82268383
>add another 12 characters

hahaha how lower can you go ya fuckin HACK?!
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>>82269035
It's even better because later Hussie goes back and has to say that yeah, actually anyone can be a Prince, really, honest guys.

But WHY Active/Passive? There's literally no point to it. Some of the links work, like Thief-Rogue, but some are so vaguely defined that there's no real way that they could have pairs.
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>>82269035
Somebody asked on Twitter and he said girls can be Princes, so presumably gender roles are either bullshit.
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>>82269026
Hussie is a clever writer, with lots of snappy dialogue and jokes. But that's about the extent of his talents, he's not actually that great.
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>>82269035
someday you'll grow up and realize why making tons of people mad is really cathartic
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>>82269112
You're taking that out of context.
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>>82269119
Growing up entails getting tired of that shit and finding it to be a waste of time, anon.

There's a line between 'riling people up with something witty and funny' and 'lol u mad'
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>>82268721
Well snap, mystery resolved.
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>>82269099
>But WHY Active/Passive?

Like you said, literally no point. It just added some bizarre granularity to a system that barely felt complete or explained to begin with.
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>>82269055
You don't get to [S]Cascade being a bad writer.

If Hussie had stopped right before Act 6 Intermission 3, thought about where he wanted to take the comic, and actually for once streamlined the plot to prevent bloating, Homestuck would have been great.

He could have easily avoided all of the A66 bullshit if he had cut the shit early on, but by the time A6I5 ended there was so much bullshit in the air that there was no way to get it back on track without spending the next few thousands of more pages rewriting the last few thousands of pages.
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>>82269149
>Growing up entails getting tired of that shit and finding it to be a waste of time, anon.

You dont have any say in that when you get frustrated that fantasy alien girls cant wear penis pants
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>>82269143
The context was already stated, anon. There is no more context.
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>>82269193
He can do it and it's fine. I'm confused as a writer and as someone looking in and thinking "Why would you do that when there's all these other things people care way more about and want explained, you know most of your fandom is shrieking teenagers who are fucking dog hungry for this and their roleplays, why would you limit them in such a weirdly arbitrary way too?"
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>>82269015
My spam email is [email protected]
Feel free to email me with more information about yourself, I am curious
A friend of mine says that Gamemaker, while hilariously broken in some aspects, is a great space for a beginner, it's where he coded his first game.
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>>82269193
I don't think anyone is frustrated the way you think they are.
The problem here is that there's no point in pointless details like that when the broader subjects haven't even once been broached.
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>>82269194
Reread the exact question asked.
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>>82269359
There's not really any way you can internet lawyer your way out of this, anon.
And to be honest I don't really understand your motivation for trying.
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>>82268881
I think the biggest trouble with active/passive was how he defined them. Active as direct versus indirect passive is okay, sure. But active as harmful versus passive as helpful? That's a cool dichotomy but I don't think that's quite at the tip of everyone's tongue. How was Dirk harmful while Gamzee helpful? Was it just that Gamzee served to help Lord English while doing what he did? That sounds a lot more like "Commanding versus Servile" to me, which is both a neater fit for the terms active/passive and aligns more with observed canon.

Thief and Rogue, Prince and Bard and Knight and Page are obvious pairings. But Seer, which is confirmed passive, has at best Mage as an active, even though we also know Mages are "fosterers", which is not something I'd call Seers in any sense, active or passive. So perhaps there are more classes than we have observed in the comic. The active Seer has never been seen, neither has the passive Maid and so on.

It's all food for thought. Perhaps a class can also have multiple active/passive counterparts. Hussie never said they were strictly one-to-one. You know the tricky shit he's done in the past. Heirs strike me much more as a passive Thief than a Rogue when you actually examine their powers and roles. Rogues are more like a reversed Thief.

What is signficant however is that Hussie went out of his way to reveal the active/passive dichotomy, but not much else. A strange decision, as it opened many cans of worms.
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Would anyone like it if I put up the Jackquest threads on AO3? Or would they make the pages too long to be bearable to read?
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>>82268906
This is mostly just salt. Move on man, Hussie made mistakes and wasn't the immortal superman you thought he was.
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>>82269409
it's almost like it was really poorly thought out and doesn't really have an impact or make much sense to the systems presented
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>>82269397
Reread the exact question asked.
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I wasn't mad about active/passive because of roleplaying or anything. I was mad because codifying the classes changed them from mythologically significant symbols to game mechanics. It killed the poetry of it all.
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>>82269015
Terrain generation is something I've taken a big interest in for my hobby stuff, and as such I know a fair bit about noise and signal generation and how to make decent landscapes from that. The crazy variety that the lands show would be pretty neat subject matter for that.

What are your ideas?

Multiplayer is something that I've also been trying to get to grips with, but it's a bit beyond my comfort zone still. It's 100% something you should try and get in as early as possible though, as restructuring to accommodate it can be an absolute nightmare.
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>>82269444
I already did years ago. I just came back to see the finale and shitpost about the flaws while waiting for the epilogue and some new episodes to come out for some shows.

I mean if he comes out and says it'll be like the end of the year I'll just take my leave for good.
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>>82269015
Not the intense crowd, just the superficial rabid tween crap crowd. They're only "intense" in that they flood en-masse, they generally only have a shallow interest in the subject matter and that's the issue. Otherwise intense interest is a good thing.
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>>82269470
Whatever you say, anon
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>>82269409
>>82269480
come on homies bone up on your alchemical lore
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>>82269480
It added some weirdly definite and hard mechanics to a part of the game and story that already felt nicely blurred between game and real.
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>>82268131
i had this same thought while watching Act 7. I think he's set up both Aradia and Sollux to be the requisite cameos in whatever the next MSPA is. as a deliberate recognition that there must inevitably be some kind of connection/cameo (as with PS->HS), but that it can't be allowed to get out of control.
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>>82269526
>we will never see a fun neat alchemy jam again after it died with Jade
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>>82269455
I get the feeling you're the same anon who feels the need to reply to any analytic post with a snarky "maybe it's because Hussie is a moron gee whiz" shot of bitterness over the last few days hear.

Honestly it doesn't add anything to the discussion, or the thread. If you don't like Homestuck or Hussie, why come here just to shout "Boo"?
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>>82269574
I don't think Hussie is capable of anything new anymore

He's stuck with the game and epilogue and Homestuck 2
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>>82269439
i think it's a good idea
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>>82269409
> Knight and Page are obvious pairings
It is obviously Page and Maid anon
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>>82269409
And more importantly, how did it impact that plot itself?

The only pairing that actually becomes relevant is Rogue/Thief, mainly because Roxy and Vriska remained important characters long enough for us to see their powers.

And even then Rogue/Thief is such a fucking obvious split that there's no reason it should even exist.

And now that Gamzee's gone the fanbase will forever remain convinced that Rage and Bard are inherently bad classpects.
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>>82269605
The comic is over anon. There's nothing left to defend. Why do you care.
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>>82269631
Hussie and be or do anything he wants (except make Homestuck good again)
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>>82269505
You're still hung up about it, it's obvious. You stick around clawing for answers, while thrashing about how Hussie doesn't provide.

Don't lose your mind anon, it's just a webcomic. Look back on what was good, and remember that it doesn't have to go wrong next time.
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>>82269656
>only the relevant parts of a universe should be included in the story

never write a story anon
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>>82269686
I'm not sure what kind of overwrought poetry you're trying to pass off onto me man, I'm here to shitpost for old time's sake and sigh at how poorly the comic was written. You're taking this kind of seriously.
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>>82269526
Is this you trying to change the topic? I'm fine talking about the ups and downs of the classpect system. I edited the spreadsheet classpect test you may have seen around here, so I know there's a lot of talk in that topic.
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>>82269656
It's not even that, really, because Roxy's powers are defined much more by "void" than by "rogue". She can create objects out of thin air and void-teleport herself and others as well as any space player. Honestly Roxy's powers are kind of bullshit.
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>>82269631
Do you mean Homestuck 2.0? Because there's no way in hell that Hussie'll do a Homestuck 2.
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>>82269743
She steals her absence, which teleports her. Not exactly a basic concept, but perfectly concrete in her powerset.
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>>82269746
Yeah. Whatever it is, he's attached his name to it, and the Homestuck name to it. Maybe he'll try to do something to ride the Undertale wave and try to cash in on that.
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>>82269717
When those bits of lore further confuse and frustrate the setting while other more interesting (and better yet, more useful) bits of lore continue to remain vague and undefined, yeah maybe they shouldn't be included.
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>>82263003
>>82264042
>>82265812
>>82266331
>>82265812

>horse son is loved
>he's good or OK on almost every other list
>something like 2nd place after aradia on strawpoll

/hst/, I... (´;ω;`)…
m-maybe I don't hate you as much as I did anymore... b-baka
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>>82269782
Writing 101: Keep It Simple, Stupid. That doesn't mean keep everything plain and easy and to not use complex ideas like time travel. It just means keep yourself in check from throwing in every idea or not using characters and ideas you already have to advance the plot and have things happen.

More importantly, give each concept a minimum of context before you start to wrap them up in further complex ideas and variables.
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>>82269766
It's so dumb though. I wouldn't expect a roundabout interpretation like that to have unlimited range and control. Rogues should steal things with their hands, by coming into contact with them. Which raises another issue in that, Roxy also has telekinesis for some reason.
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>>82269826
one reason i like equius is his cute hair
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>>82269656
> there's no reason it should even exist
It is pretty justified if you follow mechanical approach to classes i.e. Thief take for yourself but Rogue redistributes for a team. You could create pretty justifies system just by fixing for every class the direction in that in affects aspect.
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>>82269645
Tarot is a thing in Homestuck. The Knight and Page are the equivalent of a Jack in a suit of Tarot cards. They're an obvious contrast in terms of attitude, which was even covered in comic during the fast and loose era.

Honestly I sometimes think the different classes on the scale of activity are just cognates for the 14 tarot minor arcana. Lord is the King, Thief is the Queen, Ace is the Muse and so on.

>>82269656
Well, this anon >>82269717 is correct to point out that elements can be introduced simply to add depth to a story and trying to cram everything back into relevancy is a common writing mistake. But I'm not entirely sure what the introduction of the active/passive dichotomy *DID* to flesh out the world at all. Simply imply that active/passive matters in the universe? Cherubs stuff? Meh?
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>>82269826
>Every single Equius ever
>Even the RDV one

I remember her she has neat art and a really firm fixation on horseboy
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>>82266341
When recounting how Roxy died post retcon doesn't someone say "I didn't even need to look at the clock to know her death was surely Just"?
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>>82269743
Roxy's powers make sense, they're just vague enough to be insanely OP.

She can create voids, and from those voids create links to other locations or drag out objects from Paradox Space itself. If she wants to drag out a bunch of blocks arranged in a particular way with some sort of predefined velocity sending them in a particular direction, she can.
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>>82269857
>Rogues should steal things with their hands, by coming into contact with them.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz yeah really cool god power
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>>82269857
It's not telekinesis. She just steals the absence of movement.
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>>82269857
> Rogues should steal things with their hands
Why? Classes have a magic powers. So there is no need to limit yourself to old fashion ways. It is what everyone can do or at least maybe what role everyone play should be more more clearly defined.
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>>82269665
Now you're slingshotting to nihilism. That doesn't make anything better either. The comic happened and much of it was incredible. There's plenty to discuss.
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>>82269743
forget roxy, the real bullshit is aranea somehow doing brain and eye surgery
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>>82269915
I always had the personal headcanon that Void is probably a really rare element that shouldn't typically pair with a certain number of classes, much less Godtier. It just seems like a really powerful concept since it draws directly from the hopeless black infinity of paradox space.
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>>82269970
act 7 gave birth to a bunch of babys first nihilists on hsg unfortunately
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>>82269925
maybe she should just steal the absence of losing and win every fight automatically

>>82269921
>>82269948
She can literally create any object. The object doesn't even have to exist. I don't think it's an overly restrictive limitation for her to only create objects in her immediate vicinity.
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>>82269976
She's a Healer of Light. That made perfect sense.
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>>82269925
>>82269915
The thing is
Roxy stealing the absence of a matriorb is incredibly dumb. There was already a way to get a Matriorb when we firt get introduced to Jane, but Hussie somehow forgot about that.
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If you could travel back to 2011 HSG, what would you post about the future that would be so shocking to them they'd absolutely believe you were trolling
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>>82269857
REMEMBER
IT WAS CONFIRMED IN THE COMIC
ALL ASPECTS ARE RELATED AND OVERLAP

IN THEORY YOU COULD HAVE ALL THE POWERS IF YOU BULLSHIT HARD ENOUGH
THIS IS CANON
SEE: ALT CALLIOPE LOGS
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>>82268658
The source was the one that "leaked" the Homestuck Eo6 a soundtrack a while back. An anon.
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why is she so cute oh god oh man
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>>82269994
She did that in Collide.
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>>82269978
> really powerful concept
I believe that all aspects are powerful if you bullshit your way with them enough for it to matter.
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>>82269994
I don't get why she didn't magic up quest beds for literally everyone. Sucks to be a troll.
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>>82269994
>She can literally create any object. The object doesn't even have to exist.

Uh, yeah, it does have to exist. Way to miss the point.

Jake can create things that don't exist.
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WHERE IS VRISKA
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Fan classes: Cock and Cunt
A Cock fucks their aspect while a Cunt is fucked by their aspect
Please rate
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>>82270002
she's not a healer she's a sylph, whatever a sylph is
also how does light somehow mean brain surgery, even eye surgery is pushing it since light is supposed to represent fortune and not literal light
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>>82270045
When did everyone decide that Jade was attractive? From her introduction it seemed like she was supposed to be a stereotypical uggo nerd-girl. Not that I'm complaining or anything.
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>>82270049
Yeah but I liked to sort them into vague tiers in my head. We know Time and Space are the most powerful and the minimum concepts to victory. I just like the idea that Void is an uncommon and seriously broken element in a lot of weird ways, so it doesn't come up often, and when it does you always end up with shit like Equius or Roxy.
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>>82270081
getting her feet tickled teehee :3
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>>82270081
Dead.
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>>82270106
>she's not a healer she's a sylph

>>82270108
kinky furfaggots
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>>82270087
> not Cuck and Cunt
Missing that perfect passive Cuck and active Cunt pair.
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>>82270106
...sylphs are literally healers
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>>82269728
Go back and reread >>82268906 and >>82268467 and tell me you're not talking a webcomic's downfall entirely to heart. No anon, you're only fooling yourself by saying this is shitposting. It's not "poetry" to notice your impassioned outbursts. You care and you're bothered intensely by the comic's downturn, that's why you keep using phrases like "old time's sake" and quietly invoking nostalgia. That's where your good memories are.

I'd like you to be able to just talk about the comic and what it did good and bad like the rest of us, but honestly you just gotta move on.
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>>82270072
No it doesn't, she created the Matriorb when it didn't exist. She creates by stealing the absence of the object, so it doesn't need to exist for her to create it.

There probably isn't a lot of difference in how a Rogue of Void and a Prince of Void functions. A Prince would create X by "destroying the absence of X".
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>>82270049
Well, we saw Void be really bullshit where it wants to be and Hope trump literally everything in a pinch. We were also told the Time is the most destructive aspect and we saw Calliope's bullshit black hole thing, so that's Space. Life can resurrect the dead and Heart like you attack the essence of self. So that's half the aspects.
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>>82270138
>>82270153
fact is sylph is her title, not healer
you still haven't said how light somehow relates to brain surgery
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>Hussie never expanded on the Dickprince classpect

What a hack.
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>>82270167
>She creates by stealing the absence of the object, so it doesn't need to exist for her to create it.

A thing has to EXIST for it to be ABSENT in the first place goddamn
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>>82270201
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>>82270162
you're kidding yourself if you think he's the only anon posting about how shit the comic went
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>>82270201
kek
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>>82269656
> Rage and Bard are inherently bad classpects
I want a session where Thief and Bard are good guys and Heir and Rogue are huge faggots.
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>>82270222
nice reaction image but seriously answer the question
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>>82270201
She made him see the light anon
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>>82270192
All the aspects are pretty grossly overpowered when the right class and context and Godtier is applied to them apparently

I mean I liked the idea everyone could squeeze something stupid mythical out of themselves when Godtier but after a while it just felt vague and sloppy
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>>82270218
Nonexistence is a form of absence
Come on dude, she created a matriorb out of thin air. There was no matriorb in existence when she created it. She doesn't steal any object, the stuff she creates are duplicates.
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PM is my wife.
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Breath is the weakest aspect, it's just fucking wind.
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Haha
Remember?
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>>82270294
the funny thing is was that they were right, because AR isn't gay
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>>82270284
And freedom
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>>82270280
I mean you could just say that she just steals stuff from wherever it exists in some doomed timeline. There are so many literal infinities of those that pretty much anything she can imagine, she can steal.
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>>82270108
ears
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>>82270284
The comic says you have to get imaginative to use your powers to their full extent. It's just wind, but john used it to make a tornado that drills a hole into the core of a fucking planet. He also uses it to become completely impervious to damage.

It might not be 'Create anything with enough practice" but it's obviously physically strong.
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>>82270325
jesus christ
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>>82270235
I'M posting about the faults of the comic. At no point does ...whatever it is you're talking about, come into the point that moping and bitching adds nothing.
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>>82270284
If you don't see a lot of ways to apply and extrapolate Breath then you aren't even trying. How about freedom, enlightenment, or change? Or just pure blowing shit up. Winds can be pretty harsh. I once got ran out of my home by a hurricane, so I went to a cousin's house, and then got ran out of that by a tornado.
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>>82270108
people see buck teeth and glasses and assume ugly
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>>82270192
Mind have a lot of potential. Terezi done some shit and she was only a non god tier Seer.

Breath could be useful too. John have a pretty nice powers if you remember all of them.

Light is one of most broken one with probability manipulations and such.

Blood, Doom and Rage are close to useless in Homestuck.
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>>82270367
you're going in circles and discussing nothing anyone cares about

how about you stop jerking your own dick off in front of everyone about how people can't shit talk the shit comic
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>>82270368
Stop this fucking freedom meme.
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>>82270020
The only good character left is a green, skull-headed manchild yaoi enthusiast.
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>>82270367
I stopped talking to you like 4 posts ago man, you're just talking to random people.
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>>82270020
John fucks Mom

Lord English is Equius

Scratch is BR
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>>82270368
> enlightenment
> not fucking light
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>>82270385
I dunno, Sollux did pretty well for a guy who never went god tier too, and he had the foresight to duck the fuck out of the comic.
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>>82270020
Hussie is going to make almost 3 million dollars and then proceed to lose it all.
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>>82270444
and we still got no clear fucking clue what mage or doom does
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does anyone have those pictures of John applying at Women's Foot Locker because of his foot fetish?
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>>82270329
Well, okay. You could interpret her powers as she is stealing the absence of a specific object. I think her early attempts with the perfectly generic objects disproves that, though. Because she would be stealing the absence of specific perfectly generic objects, and in some cases, she is stealing the absence of specific perfectly generic objects in the shape of a pony and also stealing the absence of movement in that pony-shaped arrangement of specific perfectly generic objects.

In one attempt, she tried to create the matriorb and ended up creating a matriorb/perfectly generic object hybrid. I can't envision a scenario where that object would exist outside of being incompetent at void powers, so I feel that her ability can create generalized objects, and doesn't work by stealing the absence of specific objects.
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>>82270469
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>people still denying davekat
You're giving Hussie too much credit. He made it canon. Criticize him for doing it, not the fujoshits for enjoying it.
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>>82270438
I dunno, Breath feels more natural somehow. Mostly because of the flight thing. As in, literally being higher than others to figuratively. Besides, light was more oriented to fate and fortune.
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>>82270385
Prince of Doom stops your teammates from being doomed. Also creates the fewest doomed timelines.
Rage can be really useful for a second wind if you're about to die, or if everyone's abut to die. Your entire session is just about to be ruined? Rage it up and save it from the thing that's going to ruin it.
Blood can be about unity, but you've clearly never heard of hemokinesis. Imagine being able t create huge, powerful weapons out of blood to wreck everyone's shit.
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>>82270431
>>82270397
If you're different people and don't care, then why respond? Do you actually like saltposting? Help a bro out.
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ASPECTS DONT MATTER
YOU JUST MAKE SHIT UP AND THEN IT HAPPENS AS LONG AS IT IS REMOTELY RELEVANT TO YOUR ASPECT
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>>82270368
>freedom
Anon please
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>>82269265
Will do.

>>82269488
I've been thinking about noise-based generation, but in my opinion it seems more fit for 3D and sandbox games, and I wouldn't want that SBURB adaptation to be either. That's just too much work for me.
Prefabs, on the other hand, would grant a lot more control over land generation, and seem way more manageable.
As a start, I'd consider making a hundred generic "rooms" or so, connecting a dozen together like Spelunky or Vagante do, and applying specific tilesets to them depending on land type. (Ideally, players would pick 2 land types at character creation from a pool of 20-ish possibilities).
Then you could have specific rooms meant for specific land types/combinations: for example, a room with conveyor belts specific to the "factory" land theme.
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>>82270385
If only we knew more about them to know how they could be used.

>>82270472
We don't know mages direct use abilities, but we know it's vague influences, sollux hearing the voices of the immenantly deceased and giving him info. I imagine with godtier and the right class, it could be very powerful. Like potentially "cast death on people" type shit.

I wonder if a seer of doom would be like a backwards seer of light, they could tell you all the things you'd do that lead to you being fucked so you can not do those things
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>>82270528
You need both a Space player to ensure the creation of a genesis frog and a Time player to ensure that if it's a void session, you can Scratch it
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>>82270108
Jade got some REALLY pretty dresses anon. I mean that shouldn't directly imply anything about her but it would be pretty un-fiction if should couldn't rock many of the outfits she wore in the comic.
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>>82265465
11/11/2111
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>>82270276
Every aspect is interrelated, no matter what your classpect does if you're clever enough to JoJo that shit you can pretty much ape any ability or other skillset, if you're some kind of savant with abstract abilities.

It's just easiest to master your own.

>>82270284
Nah. Breath is like 'Life' but applied to more than just living things, it's breathing momentum into the nexus of reality itself and whatever vectors you choose it from.
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>>82270284
> John
> not even a fighter class
> able to become intangible
> able to conceal his presence
> able to tie with fucking Jack Noir
> able to dig into core of the planets
> Karkat
> powerful fighter class
> able to fuck up basic tasks
> able to speak like really loud
> able to die in every actual battle
> able to be as weak as he is useless
Clearly Blood is weakest one here. You can also compare Terezi who helped to soft reset twice or Rose who literally knows how to win with Kankri and his very useful seer of blood powers.
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>>82270469
And Toby Fox makes a game in Hussie's basement that turns him into a millionaire overnight and amasses a following far bigger than Homestuck's ever was
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>>82270528
classes don't matter either
wanna be a muse but still directly influence your aspect and do sick magic? go for it
wanna be a lord but only interact with your aspect passively and wrap yourself in it without lifting a finger? it's canon bro
nothing
fucking
matters
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>>82270589
>a class is only as powerful as the character that used it
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>>82270385
Doom is basically "Fate" I think. It's more fate-focused than light even. Master fate and you're some kind of CHIM level Psychion.
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>>82270595
hussie ghostwrote undertale.
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>>82270483
The last Dave conversation and Jade conversation ended while talking about the fact that Dave is good for kissing Jade. They are later seen right up against each other in Act 7, the end.
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>>82270645
Death, decay, rules, fate
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WHERE IS MS PAINT
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>>82270650
lets spread this new rumor
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waifu shipping > world building

fight me
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>>82270664
>End up in a DOOMED timeline
>Be a Fate (Doom) player
>Your fate is to doom and death with the timeline crumbling around you soon and death closing in
Gee that sure would be helpful
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>>82270589
TACTICAL. MIDGET.
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>>82270650
>>82270680
hussie and toby actually traded stories and hussie wrote undertale and toby wrote the end of homestuck
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>>82270650
I'd believe this if it weren't for the fact that most of the humor isn't mean-spirited. Hussie's sense of humor is 100% bantz and insults.
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>>82270489
> Imagine being able t create huge, powerful weapons out of blood
Yeah! Let's create huge weapon from our blood to prevent enemies from hurting us that would result in a blood loss! Wait...
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>>82270705
>mean-spirited
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>>82270699
How much do you think Hussie helped Toby with Memetale? It seemed like they're close enough that he must have had some involvement or input.
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I remembered a few days ago that Doc Scratch hyped up Lord English's true name, as something that would impart "terror no human being has known".

The only thing I can think of that ever fulfilled this is the fact that Lord English is an amalgam of Cal, ARquius and Gamzee, which technically means that he has four true names and as a combination is very fucked up.
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>>82270484
Light is also a knowledge and influence so it is a very close to divine understanding and shit.
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>>82270709
would blood loss even matter when you have a blood player


I wonder if maid of blood would just be a reskinned maid of life player
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>>82270732
or it was just a joke about "Cal"
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>>82270727
Yes that was the term used, thank you for clarifying, frogposter.
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>>82270731
well his name isn't in the credits, and toby even credited shit like the skeletons being inspired by that one skeleton comic so
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>>82270763
>mean-spirited
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>>82270645
> Doom is basically "Fate"
I believe that Doom is all about everything that can fuck you up like Life is about everything that helps you to fuck up over people.
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>>82270709
>Rogue of blood
You're basically a vampire+Kind of a huge douche that excels at stealing buds and friends around
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>>82270748
I imagine character helps. There's some really arbitrary shit that just happens in Homestuck and because of Sburb. Trolls, for instance, are ridiculously resilient, and Gamzee might actually have been the hardest character in the comic to kill.
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>>82270748
> when you have a blood player
I bet it matters if that player is someone like Thief of Blood who is literally Dracula and shit like that.
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maid of THIS DICK

aka aradia
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>>82270830
>Gamzee might actually have been the hardest character in the comic to kill.

Which is directly related to him being part of English, and thus engineered by Scratch to be nigh-indestructable so that he can go to the end of the timeline
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>>82270855
I thought it was just because he's a clown and clowns are well known for being menacing.
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>>82270830
All you have to do is cut him in half.
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>>82270790
>Be a thief or Prince of Doom
>Nullify your doom so fully your life is secured and safe forever
>You're basically invincible because you've Sealed your Doom
You can make yourself into goddamn Deadpool that way
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>>82270855
> Which is directly related to him being part of English
Doesn't really helped Equius to be honest here.
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Aradia is worst troll. She literally accomplishes nothing in the comic aside from saving Karkat, Vriska, Tavros, and the other Trolls from Jack Noir. Why do so many people like her?
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>>82270748
I like to think "Life" is your HP meter while "Blood" is your vitality/stamina meter, the kind you use for special attacks.
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>>82270763
How was it mean-spirited?
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>>82270845
be nice to aradia
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>>82270900
bully aradia
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>>82270879
Caliborn basically got murdered when he was put into CAL, the same way Bec did when put into Jadesprite
The majority of Scratch and LE is just AR, Gamzee and Equius.
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>>82270879
well he needed to die to get AR in with him
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>>82270898
He said that it was not. Your parents, however, must have been.
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Is steelcoridor the guy who did freedom?
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>>82270908
>The majority of Scratch and LE is just AR, Gamzee and Equius.

Scratch is AR and Equius, LE is Gamze and Caliborn (with equius muscles)
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>>82270888
She's a perv and a creeper, what's not to like?
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>>82270907
only her feet
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Kankri was a Seer of Blood, but that power only manifested in his post-scratch self. So maybe it's like, blood powers give you influence through people who share your blood, in this case metaphorically, your alternate selves. But you can't influence anything as an individual, you can only influence through others. So maybe that's why Karkat is such a pathetic loser, and maybe his Beforus incarnation was a bitchin' knight that got shit done using Karkat's karma.

If you think about it, another one of Karkat's gimmicks was having actual conversations with his past and future selves, so maybe that was his blood aspect coming into play.
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Man what if you get muse or lord but you get some fucking garbage aspect

like wind or light
wow i can do a STRONG windy thing or a STRONG source of light
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>>82270871
> Prince of Doom
> huge control freak like all princes
> overcautious because Doom player
What a nice guy to have in your team.
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>>82270940
The comic, not the meme.
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>>82270963
Aradia is canonically asexual.
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>>82270942
LE is not any of them personality wise.
He's just a mindless retarded muscled zombie.
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>>82270888
shes adorable
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>>82270963
Aradia was supposed to be a Japanese ghost girl type so it fits her.

>>82270967
He did protect all his friends several times so there's that.
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>>82270696
KatNep is SHIT
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>>82270996
Aradia is canonically sucking my dick.
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>>82270897
Blood should be Willpower.
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>>82270845
maid of your ass
aka aradia
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>>82270975
Breath is a great aspect. I think that maybe the only Aspect I'd be unhappy about is Blood. What even is that. What's it good for. Dracula, that's who.
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>>82271052
Damn, nice.
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I think my hatred for time travel manifested from reading Homestuck. Not because of Hussie's Felt meme but because it's such a cheap ability. It's not even part of theoretical physics or anything, it's just a bullshit plot device to save the story/characters.

I've been writing my original science fiction/end of the world story yes it is influenced by HS SOMEwhat and I've been meaning to add an asshole who pops in once a while from a timeline where he got some cheap gear and gets utterly assblasted by the main heroes every time. so basically Eri with time travelling powers
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>>82270975
>Muse of light
You're basically a god, how the fuck is this aspect weak? Agency is your bitch.
>Lord of Breath
You control every minuscule vector of momentum or action ever, you're like Accelerator from Toaru Majutsu no Index on crack. You might as well sniff out stars and breath away the rotations of distant planets.
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>>82270888
>888
Spidertroll pls go.

Araara is a cute unlucky girl with a weird special interest who beat vriska up. she's also hot. what else do you want?
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blood is sacrifice
breath and blood
freedom and sacrifice
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>>82270999
source: your disappointed ass
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>>82271086
From the perspective of a Vidya to story translation, it's basically Save Scumming. Lose a life, get a bad Game Over?
Load up your game and try again like a huge piece of shit with unlimited Saves.
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>>82270900
oh I'll be real nice to her dontchu worry bout nuthin
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>>82270201
This fucking retard.

Light = Importance, Usefulness, (bitchiness), etc.

Sylph = Healer

She made Terezi useful by taking away her main weakness, also making her important by making her useful.
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>i didn't like this character
>why?

>they didn't do anything integral to the story
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>>82270996
lolno. did you not get damara? megido = perverted nympho.
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>>82271039
karKAT is shit and he deserves nothing less than an eternity with NEPeta.
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>>82271136
>Reload a save in Homestuck
>Spiderpitch is back and worse than ever, ans has become the protagonist
>Reload a save in Undertale
>Is a little better and may get through part that killed you more easily

Hussie's a hack
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>>82270888
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>>82271175
>Light = Importance, Usefulness

explain rose
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>>82270650
Obviously fake.

>Undertale actually has a satisfying ending and epilogue
>Undertale actually resolves its character arcs
>Undertale's lore actually builds up to something
>Undertale is short
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>>82270975
> lord of light
> turn on and off universe lights and make people blind
> lord of wind
> move around universes
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>>82271229
>Undertale's lore actually builds up to something
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>>82270975
> be Lord of Light
> have an rank A luck
> most important character ever
> know everything about your future
> have close to infinite amount of fortune
> best attack forces everyone to see the truth
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>>82270645
Doom is systems and inevitability.

Sollux is a hacker, ergo he understands computer systems well.

Life on the other hand is opportunity and liberty (not to be confused with FREEDOM).
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>>82270975
>Lord of Breath
You have dominion over the will of those around you
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>>82270996
she's a necrophiliac let me have this
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>>82271039
Please stop be nice to Nep
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>>82271273
Breath has NOTHING to do with DOMINION OVER WILL
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>>82271264
> inevitability.
Except this is Time. The number one weapon of the Lord English was inevitability for example.
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>>82271249
you do know another game is planned
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>>82271186
Beforus trolls are the opposites of Alternia ones, with a few exceptions. Meenah is nothing like Feferi, Aranea is nothing like Vriska, Damara is nothing like Aradia, Rufio is nothing like Tavros.
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>>82270693
Or you could be a Doom player, and exploit systems to your advantage.

If you know that a friend's gonna get stabbed real hard with a nasty fork and lots of red stuff is going to go everywhere, tell then to keep a ketchup lined vest with them everywhere they go.

If you know that a planet's gonna explode, get everyone off it before anything bad happens.
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Did nobody rip Namco high? Is it lost forever?
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>>82271309
that's terrible
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>>82271312
>Aranea is nothing like Vriska

m8
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>>82271096
> Agency
> Muse
You are basically a God, a deistic one.
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What does Piss aspect do? What about Lips?
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>>82271318
There were xml dialogue dumps because nothing was stored securely. I don't know where they are and I don't care either.
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>>82271312
Rufioh is Tavros if Vriska hadn't done everything in her power to ruin him.
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>>82271108
Karkat sacrificed all his future relevancy to being in ship with Dave.
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>>82271318
Some guy on the forums saved it and got banned for sharing it. Try checking the reddit or something.
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>>82271291
>Tavros controls animals
>John controls the plot and thus the actions of everyone in the comic
Looks like your theory got BUSTED
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>>82271338
it'll be a spinoff at least
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>>82271291
Breath is literally gathering up armies.
A full-power Page or a Lord could probably charm everyone around them into complete obedience. Defeating your enemies with fancy powers? What's the point when you can just bring them to your side?

>>82271352
Rufioh didn't accomplish anything more than Tavros except getting wings. He's also an asshole, despite being pleasant and friendly. (Remember he cheated on Damara.)
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>>82271258
>uncontrollably smug
>unfathomably incapable of ever actually using full power, prefering instead to monologue
>uncomfortably arousing

sounds about right. light players, man. Shaking My Head
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>>82271405
Rufioh was born with those wings
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>>82270975
>Lord of Breath
>Control FREEDOM
>Can literally make people your bitches
>Can escape any trap, any doom

>Lord of Blood
>Control obligation and duty
>Unending army of slaves

>Lord of Doom
>Just look at the fucking name jackass
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>>82271396
DEEPEST
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>>82271348
Enables the hero to write shitty endings and be called a hack for eternity yet still making money.
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>>82271312
no, they're 'opposites' which reveal the true cores of the personalities. they're examples of nature/nurture split.
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>>82271175
>Light = Importance, Usefulness
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>>82271224
She SAW usefulness, didn't necessarily do anything useful.

Like how she flipped shit when Jasprose came because she already knew that Jasprose was going to be a useless piece of shit that didn't mean anything,
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Oh look, a bunch of retards itt that dont get that

BREATH
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>>82271175
If Light is usefulness then Page of Light is oxymoron?
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>>82271526
a page of light has the potential to be useful under rare conditions
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>>82271308
Time is ending itself, the actual act of death as opposed to the process of dying.

It's closely related in that if one has control over Ends like LE then everything leading up to that fixed moment is Doomed to lead up to those Ends.
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>>82270975
>Lord of Void
>Have the horroterrors at your beck and call
>Or make the entire session unseeable...? Rendering everyone blind?

So what does Muse even do?
>>
Years later we'll still be arguing about what classes and aspect do. The characters won't even figure into the discussion anymore, it will all be hypotheticals like "Well, yeah, but if a Bard of Hope and Page or Rage worked together, they would make Yaldabaoth invert and become associated with Void."
Eventually it will just become a big philosophy discussion. A new belief system which is a fusion of nihilism, existentialism, fatalism, idealism, and gnosticism will be formed out of the ashes.
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>>82271436
Was he really? The Summoner's mutation went unnoticed for a long time, if memory serves me right, so he probably grew them at some point. I also recall Meenah mentioning "when he hit puberty" in Openbound, which also explains why Tavros didn't grow wings. It'd be weird if he was the only troll to not share his ancestor's mutation, somehow.
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>>82271585
Muse does everything just by existing.
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>>82271446
>lord of doom
>control fate, inevitability, death
>freedom from paradox space's bullshit
>also time players get splitting headaches around you
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>>82271526
A Page of Light is a character who starts out as an unimportant side character but who becomes more important than the supposed protagonist by the end. (inb4 Vriska)
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>>82271205
TOP

FUCKING

TITTY
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>>82271634
> inb4 Vriska
Page is inversion of a Thief and inversion was confirmed to be real at the end of Homestuck
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>>82271205
>>82271659
big tits are fucking disgusting
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>>82271678
depends family but in general if they look like they cause back problems they're no fun
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>>82271626
No, that's Lord English.
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>>82271678
big tits are everything life wants and Aradia has got 'em
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>>82271616
That's preferable to waifuism and trashposting, since Hussie will never bother to give a full explanation.
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>>82271678
get out of my house
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>>82271696
LE done nothing wrong anon
>>
I've realised why Tavros and Meenah were the team leaders on the attack against Lord English.

Tavros killed Grandpa in the B1 timeline, and the Condesce killed Grandma in B2. That means some version of these two characters have killed some version of Jake English and Jade English (grandma's given name). They're English killers!

The only thing else needed would've been a Clubs Deuce and we'd be perfect.

>>82270760
Probs.
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>>82271695
this.
>>82271703
she's like 13 famzilla
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>>82271703
big tits are everything PLEBS want
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Who's stronger: Vriska or Jake English at full potential?
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Jasprosesprite^2 is your favorite character.
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>>82271767
sound like you're jelly you don't got big titties
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remember when Bec Noir killed John's and Rose's parents and they were like "nah let's go fight betty crocker, Bec White can handle it"
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>>82271789
She kind of looks like a dude here.

And I'd sort of be more okay with that.
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>>82271774
If they were to fight and it didn't appear in the comic, then Jake would mop the floor with Vriska. A fully powered-up Jake could probably obliterate Bec Noir quite easily, and could hold off Lord English but not destroy him.
If it were in the comic, Vriska would win because Hussie's waifu.
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>>82271789
I was not aware that she was a character
>>
big titty
aradia
vriska
feferi

itty bitty titty
kanaya
nepeta
terezi
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>>82271774
HOMESTUCK POWERLEVEL
(Tavros) >>>> HSG Eridan >>> Lil Cal > Geromy >>> Lord English ( = Muse Calliope ) > Paradox Space > Horrorterrors ( = Skaia ) >>> Retcon John >>> DT Jade > Scratch >>> Condensce > Snowman > GT Aranea > GT Jake >>> Triksters >>> Handmaid > English Noir > = Bec Noir = PM > > Caliborn > = AA Vriska = GT Aradia = GT Meenah > Becquerel = GCat => Gcatavsprive > Troll BK >>> GT Dirk >>> GT Dave = GT Rose = GT Roxy > GT Fedorafreak >>> Denizens >>> Jasprosesprite^2 = Davepetasrite^2 >>> Erisolsprite > = Gamzee > Ψ Mituna = > Sollux > = DD with Ring >>> Liv Tyler > = > Arquiusprite = > Nanasprite > Fefetasprite = Jaspersprite > Equius = Horrus => Damara = Karloz > RD Kanaya = > RD Porrim > Bro > Damara = Karloz = > Cronus > Bro > Squarewave = Sawtooth > = Feferi >> Nepeta => Terezi >>> Rufioh => Tavros > Stich = Calliope = > Lil'Sebastian > Spades Slick = DD = CD = HB => Latula = Karkat > Meulin = Kankri > WV = AR = WQ = Ms. Paint >>> Die >>> Clover > Cans > Itchy > Sawbuck > Matchsticks = Quarters > = Crowbar > Eggs > Trace = Fin >>> Serenity > Lil Hal = Doze > Biscuits > Tavrisprite > Duttle > Sweet Bro = Hella Jeff (>>> Andrew Hussie ) >>> (Vriska)
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>>82271774
Jake.

Jake could beat Jade's green sun powers and Vriska couldn't beat Jack's.
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>>82271865
>clover that low
>>
I love Nepeta
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>>82271862
Aradia has got it all
Feferi has got tits out to fucking Kansas
Vriska well I guess the ending says she stuffed some 8balls in her nonexistent bra

Kanaya, Nepeta, Terezi, yeah they bitty titty but we all know blind girl has ass
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Pages are doomed to never matter.

The SBURB session we followed was like, twice as long as a regular SBURB session is supposed to be, and they never accomplished anything impressive.

Tavros had the exceptional opportunity to grow in death, and he did, and his efforts amounted to nothing but bait for LE and a backdrop to Vriska's triumph.
Jake stunned Caliborn with a big explosion and beat up all his minions and that was it, almost everyone else ended up equally or more competent.
Horuss is the embodiment of "literally who".

Why? Because SBURB is a shitty games that has no concept of fairness or justice. It will not help you improve. It will not help you learn. The moment you make a honest effort to change, it will relegate you to the sidelines, if you're lucky. And if you're not, it will ensure your brutal and humiliating death.

The saccharine ending we've been given is a farce. Homestuck is not a nice story.
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>>82271921
>Because SBURB is a shitty games that has no concept of fairness or justice. It will not help you improve. It will not help you learn.
it will, you just have to PLAY THE FUCKING GAME
only one person ever actually PLAYED THE FUCKING GAME and they became king of everything
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>>82271921
I think the real answer is that Hussie is a poor writer
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>>82271921
>The SBURB session we followed was like, twice as long as a regular SBURB session is supposed to be
>SBURB sessions are only supposed to last around 10 or so hours
You're a fucking idiot. The reckoning for the Sburb session we followed was severely shortened because Karkat and Jack Noir killing the kings and bringing the reckoning around super early
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>>82271958
that is a funny point

nobody did anything but weird shitty exploits and runarounds while the one idiot who actually played the game on Impossible fucking rockets to the top of the tiers

Makes you think not a single session in paradox space actually does anything right
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>>82271865
>DT Jade
For some reason I read this as Devil Trigger and then wondered when Jade got another power-up and why she still didn't do anything.
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>>82271999
>this party is gonna get crazy!! :D
>as soon as im allowed to be a character again
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>>82271921
>Jake stunned Caliborn with a big explosion
No, he laid him the fuck out. Solidly beaten, despite all his 100% completion powers.
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>>82271514
HAS
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>>82271958
tavros did his sidequests and his puzzles though
but the game paired him with the girl who could and wouldn't hesitate to mind control him into playing the game the wrong way
if 'play the fucking game' was all you needed to do, sburb would have recognized tavros' worth and he would have gone god tier or something.
meanwhile vriska "i literally beat up my denizen, i don't care what she was trying to tell me, yaaawn" serket achieved bec noir powerlevels

so, nah.
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>>82271921
> twice as long as a regular SBURB session
> one session is an one day long fuck up
> other is basically speed running entire thing
> third was a long as fuck but with nothing to do
The only relatively regular one was Beforus one if you exclude constant sabotaging and we wasn't even followed that game anyway.
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>>82271716
If Homestuck were an ALL GIRL CAST, Hussie would have hit the jackpot and we'd already have like 3 movies and a cartoon TV series in addition to the comic and video games, wherein Hussie would also be delegating the writing of some of these to people who WOULDN'T fuck everything up. We'd be more than halfway into negotiating treaties with the Japanese for bizarre reinterpretations overseas.
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>>82271958
that's an interesting interpretation, but how unique Caliborns session was messes it up. he certainly didn't do any of the cutesy-CRPG shit we can infer is 'supposed' to be the bulk of the game (remember he he was killing consorts on sight?), and he probably wasn't even given an opportunity for most of it.
>>
too many pups
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>>82272106
Tavros tried to play the game, and Vriska kept rushing him. His problem was always that he could never stand up for himself.
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>>82272127
Breath has nothing to do with bondage.
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>>82272151
Jade looks great for someone whose vagina was recently a major offramp
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>>82272132
Caliborn's was probably "Go to point A in this planet to pick something up, then take it to point B to drop that item off and pick up another ite, then do the same for points C through ZZZZZZZ, so you can then blow the planet and "pocket" it."
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>>82272155
> try to stand up for himself and kill spiderbitch
> she kills him instead in one second
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>>82272106
vriska's thief of spotlight powers override everything
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>>82271203
Nah, Nepeta deserves an eternity alone for being a shit character. Karkat deserves irrelevancy.
>>82271289
No, Nepeta is a shit character.
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>>82271970
i think >>82271921 meant the entire combined sessions play-time, and was figuring it at over three years.

IMO games are probably meant to last years, though. they're RPGs, players are supposed to live in these new worlds for a very long time and grow attached to them before sacrificing them for The Ultimate Reward.
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>>82272132
He still did it an won. In a hell session with no hope of victory in a setup intended to kill him dead and he did everything and won and got everything.

It didn't feel very powerful or momentous and skipped a lot or got vague with it, but it was something.
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>>82272121
>Lesbianisms and an all-girl cast would be loved by tumblr
>The lads wouldn't mind either unless they're fedora wearin atheists
>Once it gets to Japan the porn amount TRIPLES

Why couldn't John retcon everything into this instead?
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>>82272151
But who's the dad
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>>82272127
why do i find it so easy to jerk off to this and its artstyle?
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>>82272210
> figuring it at over three years
Literally nobody tried to figure anything.
They are just wasted time.
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>>82272212
>John literally the only male in the entire timeline
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>>82272196
vriskafag pls go
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>>82272246
more and more the three year skip feels like it was some last minute ploy to buy time and weave around the plot
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>>82272248
I like the giga tits but it isn't as good as this one
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>>82272228
Who the fuck do you think
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>>82272228
Dave "Literal Motherfucker" Strider
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>>82272228
Dave. Who now sits there dreading the fact that he's now got seven mouths to feed.
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>>82272294
that's rad poppo, isn't it
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>>82272278
>If there was no timeskip, Rose wouldn't have becme an alcoholic, Terezi wouldn't have gotten into a blackrom with Gamzee and got her eyes healed
>Meaning that [S] GAME OVER probably wouldn't have been to horrible and John wouldn't have needed to retcon
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>>82272155
i'd argue that his problem was mainly being the center of the psycho psychic's attention.
remember when she told him to apologize for being a cripple? he refused and she bullied him even harder until kanaya intervened.
remember when he decided he needed to stop her even though he was scared shitless of her and knew he had no chance, but did it anyway because it as the right thing to do? she OHKO'd him.
we know what tavros is like when vriska is kept far away from him: he makes friends with everyone and gathers huge armies.
he didn't need to "stand up for himself" to get that army, he needed the opportunity to get away from vriska - and he only got it at the very end.
people need to consider that it's less tavros being a weenie and more vriska being a relentless bully that, through a streak of incredibly bad luck, follows him into the game, in death and back to life (in tavrosprite's case) and barely ever lets him go.
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>>82272151
What's this headcanon stuff, THIS is canon Jade
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Does Jasprosesprite^2 have paw pads on their hands? I've forgotten.
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>>82272334
It's insane how literal years of writing amounted to nothing and just sort of weaved around what was gonna happen next anyways.
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>>82272248
>>82272291
What happens when you alchemize Mindwipe's smut with reasonably sized breasts
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>>82272319
>Implying they wouldn't use spacetime fraymotifs to increase parenting tenfold
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>>82272278
that's exactly what it was. it was the moment the story went to shit because Hussie didn't actually want the characters to develop OR DO ANYTHING over the course of those three years. and that failure to do anything itself fundamentally changed (destroyed) their characters.
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>>82272351
>void shirt
I thought this was "supposed" to be Jade?
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>>82272381
nothing I care to see
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>>82272375
yes
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>>82272291
>jane && vriska
what's that even
a girl in glasses with consent issues?
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>>82272398
it's the artists void of talent anon
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>>82272398
Inversion.
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>>82272151
>Dave has kids with Jade
>This makes her a MILF
>Dave is even more attracted to Jade
>They have even more kids
>This makes her an even bigger MILF
>This cycle repeats until the end of time
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>>82272390
>implying that would alleviate the stress of having seven fucking kids to raise
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i still can't properly grok that jane is a homestuck character
it feels like she's some bizarre self-insert from a different webcomic who was just copy-pasted in
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Do you think Hussie ever jerked off to HS porn?
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>>82272421
proof pls.
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>>82272466
every five minutes I forget that Jane exists until someone reminds me
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>>82272435
I figure Empress gives the body, Jane adds the assets, and Vriska the maximum loud bitch

So you got a big titty psycho with super mind control and life powers riddled with insecurity and confidence that's probably just enough to get her into dozens of improbably sexual situations
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>>82272473
Only this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6PKzrrkbP8
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>>82272451
>implying Dave wouldn't secretly love being followed around by a bunch of wide eyed kids who think he's the coolest
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Was it rape?
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>>82272466
The r-kids feel so exhausted and empty of life

Roxy was the only one doing anything, Dirk did for a while but sort of washed out into whiny self-absorption
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>>82271970
>>82272116
>>82272210
Yeah basically, the Beforus session lasted literal years but Horrus didn't accomplish anything at all.
You could say no one in that session accomplished anything at all, but two players went God Tier among other things.
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>>82272466
I'd like to believe she didn't get any attention because he wanted a nice, clean ending, and she was just a bad person. Similar to Dirk, only nobody was equipped to call him out on it.
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>>82272483
I'm just going by the operators
&& should imply only whatever they have in common ends up being the result
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>>82272510
Yes.
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>>82272416
>those everything
got DAYUM

here check this: Condy > aradia :^)
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>>82272510
Rose getting violated, by her own crazed rapist catself, was about the only reward she earned
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>>82272542
Well duh Condy >
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>>82272509
I'd be surprised if he even remembers all their names
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>>82272334
>and got her eyes healed

ok unless I missed something can cloun jizz literally heal eyesight now or what?
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>>82272572
>>82272334
whoops sorry. nevermind
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>>82272563
They're not named, they're numbered.
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>>82272557
Didn't the Condesce have immortality given to her by immortality?
So after Roxy stabbed her in Collide she should have got up after a while. Maybe the kids just entered the new universe before she could revive, leaving her trapped forever in an empty session, the last of her species in the kids' universe, alone, for all eternity.

>>82272572
Aranea was a Sylph (I think) of Light, which allowed her to heal Terezi's eyesight.
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>>82272520
> become entire galaxy of ancient spirits
> didn't accomplish anything at all
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>>82272557
>You will never be smothered between the thighs of a jive-talkin hot alien momma

why live
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>>82272466
Something to do with her being a young and inexperienced version of an already established character with a decent amount of lines.
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>>82272660
I think Caliborn gave her... some... vague magic rainbow power. She wasn't immortal, just insanely tough. And still dropped dead pretty fast and easy for being the supposed God Emperor of Trollkind with all those powers.
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>>82272533
>fanon bullshit
ayyy
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>>82272660
>given to her by immortality?
That should be "given to her by Lord English." I screwed up there.

>>82272685
In the vain hope that VR technology could make this a reality in our lifetimes.
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>>82272121
>>82272212
>>82272247
John would get so swarmed it would look like a zombie flick.
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>>82272512
Remember when the retcon hit and everyone thought the characters acted and talked in odd ways? Familiar characters seemed off, eerie. They were broken and almost submissive to Vriska's bullshit.
It felt like a fever dreams. I recall both tumblr and HSG throwing theories left and right, speculating it must be the result of Serket mind control, or Caliborn writing the story, or an excerpt from Vriska's fanfiction.
But it never really went away. In fact, it culminated with Vriska bullying Jake in front of his friends with impunity, and Terezi obediently accepting that she shouldn't bring her friends back, because Vriska said so.
And it continued like that until the ending. Everything was unreal until the very last page, with maybe the notable exception of Collide.

In the end I think it was all a reflection of Hussie's emotional state at the time. Maybe he wanted to lay back, obey, give up on his values while someone - anyone - gives him directions, even and especially someone awful and controlling.
Only he knows.
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>>82272724
I prefer a Roxycat to any Rose iteration
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>>82272697
You know, carapaces were shown to be easily influenced by troll mind control. She should have been able to take control of PM and Bec Noir the same way she took control of Jade.
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>>82272756
but why
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>>82272660
I honestly felt like the Condy fight was so unrealistic.

>8 feet tall, mind controlling, troll from the highest caste, theoretically the Thief of Life, immortal right hand of LE got killed because she didn't see some teenage kid coming from behind.
>>
>>82272533
Nah, Homestuck doesn't actually obey the && operator's logic. Going back to John's big description on how it all works, the && and || just represent the arrangement of punchcard holes between two items, but both are combinations that add components of each part to the result.
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>>82272757
That would be interesting and difficult over many panels and flashes. Hussie had a deadline, can't you see? Gotta shit out the big flashy fight fast and loose. There's a game that's threatening to complete itself if he doesn't intervene.
>>
why was that post deleted
have mods never owned a cat before? that's like, the best part of a cat
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>>82272790
cause its cuter
>>
Why did female Caliborn have a fascination with the kid's story and inserted herself into the story as a fantroll?
>>
>>82272796
>didn't see some teenage kid coming from behind.
I felt it was cheap too, but Roxy is a Void player, so she had the best chance of getting in a surprise attack of all the kids.
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>>82272757
They presumably have some form of ring-granted immunity (unlike Jade or GCAT), otherwise Vriska could have just ordered the Black King to commit sudoku and instantly won the game at the first minute.
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>>82272796
The Empress did not feel like Meenah at all. I feel like that was another last-minute decision and addition.

She could have been a pretty cool and well-established villain if she had done anything prior to Act 6.
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>>82272753
Yeah, I think Joke had to be the weirdest part of the ending. That had to be the one point where literally anybody should have stepped up and told her off. Especially John. But no.
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>>82272839
She probably should have shown up in Act 5.1
Alas, Hussie has trouble writing stories.
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>>82272829
Roxy is a Void player, so she is able to ____________
(fill in the blank with whatever you want)
(that's the true meaning of Void)
(you get a blank check for free powers)
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>>82272839
So could English, what a coincidence
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>>82272874
>Alas, Hussie has trouble writing stories.

Ya fuckin think
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>>82272757
Not all carapaces, they still have to be impressiona8le. CD could be manipulated but not DD.
>>
>>82272823
She's 11.
>>
>>82272880
Yeah, I agree with that. It's so weird how Hussie had everything he needed, the whole toolkit to tell the story, all the villains and characters and mysteries and motivations you could EVER want to write for, and he blew it. In spades.
>>
>>82272878
She's a Rogue of Void. She could steal the concept of her presence existing to hide herself or something.

>>82272880
Lord English would have been better if he talked and acted more like Caliborn.
>>
who is more boring

Jane or Cali
>>
>>82272753
I remember catching up on Act 6 on 4/13 and everything feeling super off
And I thought maybe it was just because I was slamming through the story and I was exhausted, but no, everyone was just fucking weird
I straight up just gave up on the big big "everyone sits down and has a feels jam" part because it was making me feel kind of upset
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>>82272932
why didn't she steal the concept of Lord English existing
>>
Non-Jack villains needed to fucking go, I'm sorry. That even includes the English-powered Jack.
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>>82272932
For being introduced as the man Spades Slick himself wanted to shank, the leader of some time gang, English ended up incredibly boring with shoddy 2d sprite punches and rainbow lasers.

why the fuck was Jack not the final boss
>>
>>82272960
spades slick can stay, but as an anti-hero
not a villain
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>>82272949
Jane is more boring than either Calliope or Caliborn, just by virtue of being a human.

>>82272956
His unconditional immortality would probably prevent it.
>>
>>82272708
>>82272814
gay and butt lame
>>
>>82272987
fat lot of good that unconditional immortality did for him in Act 7 maybe possibly in some interpretations
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who is more breedable

Jade or Aradia
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I sincerely thought the ending would include Slick murdering English, as promised, just out of fucking nowhere once the Green Sun died and he'd end up being the actual boss for everyone.
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>>82272949
Jane, she could have been a cool teen nanna hard-boiled sleuth prankster but instead she just cried on her birthday because a boy didn't like her.
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>>82273025
Ara Ara by far

She can't be bred but she won't stop encouraging you from trying for hours and hours
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>>82273014
I don't think he actually died. He either got stuck in the House, black hole/green sun, or just ended up floating around the Furthest Ring for eternity. It's like being able to hit Clover with a rolled-up newspaper, you can keep LE away forever, but can't kill him.
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>>82273044
Jane turned out to be catastrophically boring and unlikeable. Honestly a better shitty twist would have been revealing she was under the Empress' control the entire time.
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>>82272416
>>82272557
>>82272697
Source?
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What did Hussie mean by this?

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009630
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>>82273121
She fisted her anus.
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>>82273121
Roxy is best girl so only the best and most weird girlfriends for her
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>>82273025
I'd still go with Condy tho
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>>82273086
Agreed. The tiara's been brainwashing her for her whole life, it makes sense that Jane could be irreparably evil instead of magically fixed.
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>>82273121
Some people have a hard time expressing themselves emotionally, and it's a lot harder to fuck up a hug than a speech.
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>>82273204
Condy thinks she's too good for sex

Aradia will fuck literally anything you point at

But the real fun don't start until we get into Aradia humiliating and tormenting a grossed out Empress with her rampant fucking and fluids just spraying everywhere
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>The Condesce never mind-controlled GCATavros, waking him up to spread chaos on Derse
>GCAT's mischevious, assholeish nature and his cat-like lack of inhibitions were never relevant to Tavrosprite's new personality
>)(IC never took advantage of said new personality, plus his history of victimhood, plus his new painful state of existence, to make him go the cat equivalent of grimbark
>We never saw the unholy combination of First Guardian and Page powers, presented as two of the most overpowered things in the comic
>Tavros training to become a Cavalreaper under )(IC's command and his sudden and jarring obedience to Meenah and her fuchsia blood never foreshadowed anything
>We never got to see GCATavros make some hilarious villain talk
>Condemning Tavrosprite to an eternity of off-camera suffering never came back to bit Vriska in the ass
I feel like this was yet another wasted opportunity.
>>
>>82273228
>a hug

Then why did he not show it?
>>
>>82273223
You could bullshit a million things too. Nanna could have helped her and had a moment, Grandpa could have encouraged her after she breaks out, just tons of psychological fuckery instead of meandering about with relationships and Tricksters and just so much boring disjointed garbage.
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>>82273025
see >>82272151

Just look at that proud face. That's the face of a Harley who wants to be rode.
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>>82273228
>Roxy's emotionally starved need for affection
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>>82273284
homestuck is a family friendly comic.
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>>82273284
He was too lazy to draw it.
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