IMPRESSIVE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q1 gpvIL2QY h

>>82222728
WHY ARE WE MAD ABOUT THIS?

spiderman was already established as strong in the first

second is showing that he's strong compared to established characters

4/10 got me to reply

Maybe its the video quality but Spider-man's voice is way too high-pitched. He's meant to be like 16 or older, not 12.

is this showing that movies with the same character have different choreography in fight scenes?

>>82222799
>Spider-man's voice is way too high-pitched.
>He's meant to be like 16 or older, not 12.

What high school did you go to?
Or has the fact that teenagers tend to be played by adults in media finally warped most of humanity's mind?

>>82222799

But he almost sounds like his cartoon self.

>>82222741
We're not

>>82222835
Not him but that did fuck with my mind. I thought I would be tall and shit. Also, very hard back then(and still is) to know what girls were middle schooers and who was in highschool.

>>82222799
>He's meant to be 16 or older, not 12
Actually he was fifteen, shit even the Civil War comic states this, and yes I know you're going to argue with the typical "Man, when I was sixteen I was already 6'8 and sounded like a young Sean Connery"

No, you weren't. You, and every other fifteen year old that wasn't on growth hormones were pimply faced, squeaky little shits that still had pitches in their voice.

The thing that's bothered you is that you got older and Spider-Man was always presented to you as this eighteen year old or guy in his early twenties, so it never bothered you. But now that they're going with an actual teenager to play the role, you feel this is wrong. It's not. Kids today are going to grow up with this Spidey, he'll get older as well, and then the reboot will happen once again and then they'll complain.

Fucks sake does it bother you that someone that doesn't even have a drivers license can climb up walls and fight their best friends dad who cucked them on top of bridges?

>>82222728
>Spidey
>actually strong and fast instead of jobbing out of his fucking mind
I'm hyped.

MCU Norman when?!

>>82224506
They actually said something to that effect anon. I'm too lazy to Google it myself but look up the actor and you'll see the specifics of his recent casting

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>>82222728
I'm hype

>>82222903
>not being 6'8 with a deep voice at 15
Your teenage years must have sucked

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>>82222728

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>>82222903
>were pimply faced
>mfw I never had to deal with pimples
>mfw I was never a pizza face

>>82222728
he literaly can throw around cars, what the fuck do you expect?

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>>82224982
>mfw totally clean face during hs
>broke out all over after graduating and have spent years reducing the scarring

Come one guys, if you had a fully developed body ar age 15 then you're either a girl or middle eastern.
point is white people age slow at first, then turn 40 when they're 27.
And black people are 28 until they're 50 years old. Asians too.

The problem is that Hollywood hates teenagers so if it can be avoided, they will be played by adults. So people forget what teenagers are like.

>>82222799
>>82222799
I could almost grow a full beard by 14 but my voice didn't become *manly* deep untill I was 17, everyone's different
also, there's acting involved, if you watch the red carpet premiere you'll hear his voice is a bit lower irl, I guess they'll mature him gradually throughout the future movies

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>>82225037
>prone to breakouts as teenager
>suddenly clear up after highschool from water and eating proper
>now have to deal with very slight laugh lines around eyes that only I can see in certain lighting

It's a never-ending nightmare

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Is this the Russos taking the piss out of BvS?

>>82225986
Probably not intentionally so, but yes.

>>82222728
>>quiptastic Spider-man
Fucking dropped.

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>>82226024
Confirmed for never reading a single Spider-Man comic ever.

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>>82224982
>>82225037
>>82225542
>tfw acne since 13
>tfw twin brother and I saw a dermatologist for years and tried everything (-cycline antibiotics, erythromycin & clindamycin wipes, Benzaclin Gel, retin-a, etc.)
>finally get accutane at age 17, yanked off it two months in (identical twin became sick, turns out it was lyme disease and not the medication) but it does wonders
>still need cream and such but a lot better
>do another run of accutane in college
25 now and I still get some occasional zits but so much more manageable and almost no indication I ever had them (one tiny barely visible pock mark near the top of my forehead).

Accutane is a wonder drug IMO

>>82226080
>taking the b8

>>82222903
Come on, don't be so brutal

>>82222903
Come on, don't be so brutal.

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>>82222903
>when I was 16

You don't know me.

>>82222728
>the movie event of the summer

it's april

>Spidey doing quips and beating up everybody

I know that everyone does it in MCU but I'm fucking hyped

Wait, pointing out someone has an arm made of metal, and being impressed by it is a quip?

>>82226080
Just because he quips in the comics doesn't make it in-character.

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>>82226548

>>82226548
>being this dense

>>82226509
Is also shows that Spider-man is rather naive and impressionable. He has not seen much of this world. I personally find funny that he give some praise for the enemy. He's a modest dude.

OUT IS HE?

>>82222728
IT'S YOU WHO'S OUT, BUCKY!

>>82222728
IT'S YOU WHO'S OUT BARNES, OUT OF YOUR MIND!

>>82222835
>>82222903
But he's almost the same height as Falcon and Bucky, and he's played by a 19 year old, there's no reason he should sound like a kid from south park.

MISERY MISERY MISERY

>>82226715
>Sounds like a high school kid, which is what he is
>Claim he sounds like an 8 year old

TONY AND I

WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HELL OF A TIME

>>82226548
Are you an idiot?

>>82226715
How do you know how tall he is in this? We have yet to get a clear shot of the characters side by side.

>>82222728
/tv/, fuck off, not everything is a goddamn meme. You guys beat /m/ and /v/ in being completely bereft of self-awareness.

>>82226796
you can't be this stupid

>>82226781
DON'T LET HIM TAKE ME AGAIN
I BEG YOU
PROTECT ME

Spider-man looks so out of place but not like in a bad way.

>>82226837
How is that being stupid? Seeing a close up shot of the faces =/= equal height.

>>82226868
Well, there's a full body shot in the trailer, granted he's flying in kicking someone. Plus you know, you can look it up online?

Spider-Manlet is the best Spider-Man

>>82226715
How dare this actor actually act in this film.

>>82226885
>Well, there's a full body shot in the trailer, granted he's flying in kicking someone.
I don't think you know how perspective works.

>Plus you know, you can look it up online?
Yes, because actors are always the exact same height as their comic counterparts.

>>82222728
This guy has me excited. This Spider-Man jokes and is a good Spider-Man unlike Tobey while isn't a complete 100% Chad like Garfield.

Plus his costume has to be the best resembling the original.

>>82226966
I meant it as you can look up the actors height (you know, the people we're talking about?) online

>>82226694
OUT OF YOUR MIND!

Fuck that comparison just reminds me how much worse this Spidey suit is, it looks so rubbery.

>>82226988
>I meant it as you can look up the actors height
Yes, because the height of the actor is ALWAYS a direct reflection of the height their character is.

Its like you've never seen Lord of the Rings or something.

>>82227035
>Fuck that comparison just reminds me how much worse this Spidey suit is, it looks so rubbery.
>not liking classic style suit
>liking edgy suit
Underage detected

>>82226908
>squeaking like a child is good acting
MCU standards, everyone

>>82227054
k

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>>82226988
I didn't realize Issac Clark was like 25 feet tall. Geeze.

>>82227053
How the fuck is Raimi's suit edgy? Think a little before you get upset that not everyone gobbles up every mediocre cgi fest that is shit out.

>>82227065
Nice argument, you are right, my mind is changed, nominate this man for an Oscar.

>>82227074
The spider insignia is pretty edgy looking. The narrow, "angry" eyes. etc.

>>82227074
>How the fuck is Raimi's suit edgy? Think a little before you get upset that not everyone gobbles up every mediocre cgi fest that is shit out.
That scene with Spidey punching wasn't CGI though.

>>82227071
You mean Oscar Isaac?

>>82227045
Yes, because Peter Parker is a hobbit. Tell me why they would even bother changing his height?
>>82227071
>scene where the mutant character is growing
yeah okay, I guess Paul Rudd is one inch tall

>>82227103
Sorry, have dyslexia.

>>82227065
>k
Your gay Tumblr "k" response doesn't work here. If you are going to defend your point, at least actually defend your point.

I am so sick of "k" fags

>inb4 k

>>82227127
/k/

>>82227127
>>>/k/

>>82227116
RDJ is a manlet, retard. But you wouldn't know it by just watching his movies. Height in a movie =/= height of the actor in real life.

Christ, why are you so dense?

>>82226715
>>82227054
>>82227087
Way to over-exaggerate.
He sounds like a teenager, just as he should. I'm having doubts you even know what a teenager is.

>>82222728
Is it just me or his voice sounds nothing like "Hi everyone"

>>82227116
>I guess Paul Rudd is one inch tall
By your logic, he'd be shorter.

>>82227149
>>82227168
I said inb4 MODS!!!!!!!!

>>82227179
No, tell me why they would go out of their way to make Tom Holland shorter.

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>>82227127
/k/

>>82222728
Seriously, from all those people he meets in this movie to all the villains (and maybe heroes) he met before, a metal arm is what gets him excited?

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>>82224506
Westen as Norman when?

>>82227283
When will that ever not be cool? Especially to a teenage superhero?

>>82227418
you know when you have someone like thor flying around, you would think you would get used to stuff like this, even if you only see it on television.

He HIMSELF is a freaking spider-mutant-man

>>82227313
Why is Westen such a milf?

can i just take this time to say we may never get a better green goblin in our lifetimes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXpb830_l10

>>82222903
>No, you weren't. You, and every other fifteen year old that wasn't on growth hormones were pimply faced, squeaky little shits that still had pitches in their voice.

No. That was you and a minority of kids. Go to youtube, find videos of teenagers actually talking, most of them don't have squeaky voice.

>"Man, when I was sixteen I was already 6'8 and sounded like a young Sean Connery"
Jumping to extremes. No one claims this. But most sixteen year olds have deep voice.

>>82227753
This. That movie was irritating but this Green Goblin was Elder God tier.

>>82227800
>That was you and a minority of kids
I agree with you anon but this is /co/mblr, the board obsessed with minorities.

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still best Spidey adaptation

>>82227753
There are plenty of people who could do just as well or better.

Imagine if Matthew McConaughey played GG, for example. That would be stellar.

>>82227871
Disgusting

>>82227886
Your disgusting.

>>82222728
Holy shit spiderman sounds like a kid, this is amazing.

>>82227933
>Holy shit spiderman sounds like a kid, this is amazing.
The Amazing Spider-Man amazing

>>82227957
Indeed it is.

Sorry if I'm a bit eager, I just downed have a bottle of whiskey ad I'm just starting to feel it.

>>82226548
thats literally his character
he's a shit talking 16 year old boy

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>>82226548

>Spider-Man finally portrayed with his correct canon comic book strength

ABOUT FUCKING TIME

>they remembered that Spidey is actually pretty fucking strong despite his size

Why do people keep forgetting this and think that Spidey is some squishy acrobat? Dude can lift actual tons worth of weight pretty easily.

>>82228310
>Why do people keep forgetting this and think that Spidey is some squishy acrobat?

Because most people don't read comics and the vast majority of Spider-Man "fans" got their info from the Raimi movies.

>>82228137
>>82228310
He easily lifted a cop car in ASM2.

>>82227222
So he looks younger. Very simple. They go out of their way to make RDJ look taller.

>>82222728
>Being surprised Spider-man is strong

I wish /tv/ could stop discussing capes.

>>82228352
>Raimi
Bitch, please. He was pretty strong in those. He's just holding back with the likes of Ock.

If anything it's TAS fault. The damn cartoon did very little to convey Spider-Man's strength. For fuck's sake, at one point he even complains that he couldn't lift a car before the black suit.
Since that was my first exposure to Spider-Man, I didn't even know he had any super-strength before getting into comics.

>>82222728
Is he strong?
Listen, bud.
He's got radioactive blood.

>>82228352
>Because most people don't read comics and the vast majority of Spider-Man "fans" got their info from the Raimi movies.
The Raimi movies were horrible.

>>82228445
Your face is horrible.

>>82228435
>For fuck's sake, at one point he even complains that he couldn't lift a car before the black suit.

No. He says he could ONLY lift a car. When he gets the symbiote, he can lift fire engines. Your memory is fucked.

>Is easily impressed by a bionic arm
>Meanwhile, Iron and Warmachine are probably in a dog fight against Falcon somewhere

but no it's the Arm that impresses him?

>>82228445
>The Raimi movies were horrible.

This is a hard fact. They are such terrible adaptations of these characters. I feel like Raimi read ASM #1-3, while falling asleep and just said, "Eh, fuck it. That's all I need to know." and then proceeded to wing it from there, using wiki and the 90s animated series as a guide.

>>82228523
Iron Man isn't a tru Cyborg he's just a filthy poser.

>>82228488
Okat, point taken.
It's still absolutely pathetic by Spider-Man standards.

>>82228461
Two things:
1- Take off your nostalgia goggles. Those movies aged horribly.
2- Read a Spider-Man comic. Literally, any one of them. Raimi's movies are nothing like any of the characters in any Spider-Man comic.

>>82228461
>Your face is horrible.
Nice comeback kid

>>82228528
>This is a hard fact. They are such terrible adaptations of these characters. I feel like Raimi read ASM #1-3, while falling asleep and just said, "Eh, fuck it. That's all I need to know." and then proceeded to wing it from there, using wiki and the 90s animated series as a guide.
This. Seriously Spidey never joked or grew as a character too. By Spider-Man 3 he seemed even more a dork than the 1st movie.

>>82228523
>being this autistic

>>82228523
>not thinking bionic arms are cool

What the hell is wrong with you, anon?

>>82222903
Most 15 year olds don't really have squeaky voices.

>>82228352
Right because catching that highwire tram thing full of children in SM and stopping a fucking train in SM2 didn't show that he was super strong. Stop making up more things to dislike about Raimi's films.

>>82228523
>but no it's the Arm that impresses him?
He is in the middle of fighting. If you actually understand Spider-Man he was saying that in a way to mock him.

>>82228562
>It's still absolutely pathetic by Spider-Man standards.

Not unless he's amped up with adrenaline from rage or desperation.

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>>82225986
Considering bvs did it 10 times better, no, not really.
It's more dramatic than quipping in the middle of a fight.

>>82228569
>aged horribly
Meaningless. They're good for the same reasons they were good at release.

>Raimi's movies are nothing like any of the characters in any Spider-Man comic.
Bad adaptation isn't the same as a bad movie. NOT MUH isn't a real criticism fag.

>>82222728
Wow, not trashing on Civil War, but the framing was better in the Raimi movie. In the Civil War shot, it looks like they're high fiving.

>>82228616
Yes, one example in each film. Its like the people involved with those movies completely forgot he had super strength. its like half way through production, they were just like, "Oh shit. Spider-Man is supposed to have super strength. Fuck it. Just have him stop a train or something." and shoved that in randomly. Never to be addressed again anywhere else in the movie.

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Apologise.

>>82228654
>It's more dramatic than quipping
Thanks for informing everyone that you have never read a Spider-Man comic in your life.

>>82228654
Civil War will end up as a better film though...WB better kick that Hack Snyder out of DCEU asap, honestly.

>>82228664
>Meaningless. They're good for the same reasons they were good at release.
What made them good at release isn't good anymore. Many other super hero films improved on those aspects and now Raimi Spider-Man looks really lame compared to others. The only thing good about those movies are
>The soundtrack
>Goblin and Doc Oc
>Bad adaptation isn't the same as a bad movie. NOT MUH isn't a real criticism fag.
It wasn't even a good movie though

>>82228701
You apologize you stupid cunt, you wasted best Gwen and best costume on your shitty itsy bitsy wubsted piece of shit.

>>82228569
>those movies aged horribly
Confirmed for shit taste underage who thinks he's not allowed to like movies he liked as a child. If you can't see the merit in Raimi's films than you know very little about filmmaking.
>Raimi's movies are nothing like any of the characters in any Spider-Man comic
Wrong. They just aren't like the modern interpretations of those characters. Raimi Peter is very similar to classic Stan Lee Peter. He's an enormous cringe-inducing nerd who cries all the time and makes really shitty jokes while fighting goofy evil scientists. JJJ is exactly the same as his comics counterpart. So is Aunt May. So is Norman. Harry is pretty similar. The only one I'll give you is very different is MJ.

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Miss me yet?

>>82228664
Nice counterarguments there.

Brushing away the argument in no way proves the criticisms wrong. In fact, it shows you have no actual argument.

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Admit it, you miss me.

>>82228701
>Apologise.
Never. Best Gwen ever dies even though the lmao Gwen from the Raimi movies doesn't die in her death scene.

>Also Spider-Chad was the worst

>>82228701
>>82228741
>>82228770
Kinda, I'm not really fond of a CGI suit even if it has a classic ditko's design.

>>82228724
>Goblin and Doc Oc
I'd argue that only Goblin was good.

Doc Ock was just a guy brainwashed by an evil AI. He doesn't act anything like Ock should act.

>>82228701
>>82228741
>>82228770
Chad SpiderCock pls stop

>>82228720
$$$$

>>82228686
Is this a joke? He's clearly kicking normal people's asses the whole film using his super strength. He punches Flash once and he flies down the hallway. No normal punch could do that. And both the scenes I mentioned are huge pivotal scenes in the movie. They hardly feel like last minute additions, both scenes are the respective centerpieces of their film.

>>82228770
>>82228701
>There will never be a another good Spiderman

I'd rather sit through Andrews shit act than pay to watch this mcu Spiderman

>>82228724
>Many other super hero films improved on those aspects and now Raimi Spider-Man looks really lame compared to others.
Do you look at original Star Wars or Toy Story and say they're bad cause of old special affects and CGI? That's retarded.

>>82228701
Nice cosplay, Anon.

>>82228798
SM2 Ock is based. He wasn't brainwashed into doing anything he didn't already want to do, as evidenced by the fact that he very easily fought off the AI as soon as he tried towards the end of the film. Molina acts exactly like a cocky evil villain in almost every scene he's in. He just has more pathos.

>>82228797

Its not cgi.

>>82228899
>Do you look at original Star Wars or Toy Story and say they're bad cause of old special affects and CGI? That's retarded.
Star Wars and Toy Story are timeless classics, though.

And yes the Prequels are bad for that reason and they share another issue that the Raimi movies have, bad acting and dumb changes to the universe.

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>tfw mw and most casuals, even children are bored of Spiderman after deadpool

Deadpool overshadows Spiderman in every aspect.
Spiderman is dead. Bury him. He's been replaced by his copy cat.

>>82228731
>If you can't see the merit in Raimi's films than you know very little about filmmaking.
Uh oh! We got a film critic in the thread! Watch out everyone!

Simply being older isn't the issue. That would be extremely silly. There are tons of older movies that are absolutely wonderful. The Raimi Spider-Man movies are not among that list. Rather, they are extremely dated and overtly campy. Rather than come off as fun, they come off as painful and cringeworthy.

>They just aren't like the modern interpretations of those characters.
Or any interpretation of the character. Peter isn't some ultra-beta who was completely ostracized from society and can barely even express a thought to a women, let alone anyone outside Harry.

All you've done is show that you completely fail to understand Spider-Man on a foundation level. You have no idea who that character is.

Go read a Spider-Man comic.

>>82228701
Non cgi suit>>shitty mcu cgi suit

Why dies marvel have to ruin everything?

>>82228913
The eyes are

>>82228990
falseflag incoming?

>>82228906
You need to rewatch that movie. Your memory has failed you completely.

>>82228952
>Or any interpretation of the character. Peter isn't some ultra-beta who was completely ostracized from society and can barely even express a thought to a women, let alone anyone outside Harry.
This.

They flanderized Peter's geekiness in those movies.

He was supposed to be sort of a geeky beta but he grew into a confident alpha smack talker. Raimi Peter only got worse each movie.

>>82226694
>>82226704
OUT, AM I?

>>82228945
>Star Wars and Toy Story are timeless classics
So you can judge them on their own merits but other movies?

>dumb changes to the universe
But they're in their own universe. That makes no sense.

>>82228654
>1.jpg

>>82228952
>Peter isn't some ultra-beta who was completely ostracized from society and can barely even express a thought to a women
Except in the original Lee comics...he totally is. It isn't until after he becomes Spider-man that he starts to slowly come out of his shell. He has ZERO friends in his original appearances. He didn't even have Harry until college. He eventually made a few, AFTER becoming Spiderman. Amazing Fantasy 15 makes it very clear that Peter is completely ostracized from society aside from Uncle Ben and Aunt May. You're just plain wrong.

>>82228952
>Peter isn't some ultra-beta who was completely ostracized from society and can barely even express a thought to a women, let alone anyone outside Harry.

He was still a beta. He didn't have any friends until Ditko left.

>>82228990
>tripfag
>barely speaks English
>not liking the new suit
>Disney is the name

>>82229050
He wasn't a beta though. He was kind of an arrogant asshole even outside the mask.

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>>82228950
>I was there when deadpool killed spiderman
Deadpool blew the fuck out of 98% of marvel movies, it might even beat x-men and civil war.
Feels good to be a fox deadpool fan

>>82229021
>So you can judge them on their own merits but other movies?
They have issues but overall aged well

>>82229021
>But they're in their own universe. That makes no sense.
That's the problem though, Raimi created his own dumb Spider-Man universe and changed the comic characters to boring, dopey, and edgy versions of themselves.

Raimi Peter is just as bad as Jar-Jar Binks.

>>82229050
Thats the problem, Raimi Peter never developed, infact he became even more beta with each movie.

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>>82228950
Memepool is trash. Spidey is the superior quipper.

>>82229019
Its clear that Raimi is a big fan of the original Lee/Ditko run. Peter didn't become an alpha until after that original run. Just because its not your favorite version of the character, doesn't invalidate that version. Its clearly Raimi's favorite version, and he adapted that version very closely. So you prefer later versions of Peter, that's fine, but don't insist that every other version is shit just because its not your favorite.

>>82229045
>autistic filename hunter
>Evans.jpg

Do yourself a favour and just don't.

>>82229167
But even Lee/Ditko Peter was better than Crybaby Maguire.

At least Lee/Ditko had his own charm to it. Tobey Maguire I wanted to punch his face badly.

>>82228535
Well, he kind of was prior to Iron Man 3.

>>82229157
The only reason he was beta after the first movie was because he was spending all his time in costume. A theme taken directly from the early Lee comics. He tries to go see MJ's play and its very clear that if he wasn't Spider-man, he would be totally hitting that shit on a regular basis. But his responsibilities keep him from doing that. He's not actually a beta, he's just too preoccupied with his life as a superhero.

>>82229238
>The only reason he was beta after the first movie was because he was spending all his time in costume. A theme taken directly from the early Lee comics. He tries to go see MJ's play and its very clear that if he wasn't Spider-man, he would be totally hitting that shit on a regular basis. But his responsibilities keep him from doing that. He's not actually a beta, he's just too preoccupied with his life as a superhero.
But that's the BIGGEST problem. Spider-Man is supposed to act alpha not all serious. He barely wise cracked at all!

He never grew up.

>>82222903
this guy gets it.
everyone that doesnt understand that this IS spiderman might as well go bat to /tv/ because thats where you obviously learned your shit.

>>82229207
That's only because the comic medium is easier to forgive than live-action portrayals of more or less the same thing. When Peter starts crying after being beaten by Doc Ock for the first time in the comics, he's being a whiny little bitch. But everyone accepts it because its a comic book from the 60s. That's the only reason it has "charm." Because its an old comic book. Raimi tried to transpose that into a modern day movie. You might not like it when you see it in live action in modern day, but don't act like its not a faithful adaptation.

>>82227884
alright alright alright?

pass.

>>82226694
Out of arms?

>>82229369
But classic Spidey at least joked often, Raimi Spidey was boring.

Also I hated Garfield but at least he pulled off the crying thing better.

>also Raimi faithful to comic potrayal
Wew lad

>>82229322
He did wisecrack. His jokes were just dumb. Just like in the original comics. People just pretend those wise cracks didn't happen.
>ITS YOU WHOSE OUT GOBBY!
>Nice outfit, did your husband give it to you?
>Let mom and dad talk!
>Here's your change!
>I have a knack for that.
He only acts serious when shit is getting real (Goblin having MJ, Ock having MJ, losing his powers mid-fight) which is how he acts in the comics as well.

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>>82228654
MEN ARE BRAVE

>>82229411
See
>>82229445

He does joke. The jokes just aren't funny (and Maguire's delivery could use work). Which is consistent with classic Spidey.

>>82229448
I love how skin tight the suit is. You can clearly see muscles. That is awesome.

>>82229445
He barely did it at all though, he was too serious on a regular basis. Spidey focused too much on fighting while normally he is supposed to do both. I was about to say he only did it like 5 times that I can recall and I just noticed you posted 5 examples.

This new Spidey seems like he has it going on.

Isn't Spiderman capable of lifting cars and shit pretty much effortlessly? Fuck, he pulled a train to a stop in Spiderman 2. Besides Vision, he's clearly the strongest out of the cast in CW.

Why are you hamburgers getting bent out of shape about him stopping a punch from a robot arm built in the 50s

>>82228445
I agree
terrible adaptations
(mostly) terrible casting and acting
terrible editing
I can forgive the effects as it was made forever ago but man, those movies aged like milk out in the sun

>>82229488

It's not a suit, it's CG. Actual fabric doesn't work that way.

>>82229515
>Besides Vision, he's clearly the strongest out of the cast in CW.
Yep.
That's why Tony is going to use him as an example for registration or whatever they're calling it.
A 15 year old is stronger than all of them.
If he wanted to, he'd be a fucking menace

>>82229564
Only the eyes are CG you stupid fuck.

>>82229580
>stronger than all of them
Who is Hulk?

>>82229580
Most of the cast in CW are just normal people with some kind of tech based upgrade, though. Aside from Spidey, only Vision and Scarlet Toilet are actually super.
Wasn't there a Spidey book about some villain trying to get spider sense because it's OP as all fuck?

>>82229634
Hulk and Thor aren't in CW you dumpass

>>82229499
I'm not claiming that Raimi's Spidey is the be-all, end-all live action depiction of Spidey. Personally I feel that we haven't yet gotten a great depiction of the character. I just hate it when people needlessly hate on the Raimi films. They're really fun movies and they feature a specific but accurate depiction of a certain version of Spiderman. It annoys me when people act like Raimi never read a comic book. He just read a very specific run on Spidey and did his best to adapt that version.

>>82229634
He's not in the movie you mouthbreather.

>>82229641
And it's ok for Raimi to have read lots of Spider-man and then decide to change things anyways.
Just because you've read the material, it doesn't mean you have to be totally loyal to it.

Raimi's Spider-man was more Peter Parker than the Spider-man we usually know.
He was still just an awkward kid in a mask. He tried a bit to make light, but it's still just a kid playing superhero.
That may not be classic Spider-man, but it's a version I can appreciate

>>82222728
>I haven't read the comics but he wasn't this strong in the movies!

>>82229641
>I feel that we haven't yet gotten a great depiction of the character
Civil War Spidey seems promising so far
>I just hate it when people needlessly hate on the Raimi films.
People are entitled to their opinions
>They're really fun movies and they feature a specific but accurate depiction of a certain version of Spiderman.
>fun
Sort of
>accurate
No
>It annoys me when people act like Raimi never read a comic book.
>He just read a very specific run on Spidey and did his best to adapt that version
Well yeah he obviously did those people who say he didn't are idiots

>>82229626
It's clearly CGI suit in the trailer.

>>82229548
>(mostly) terrible casting and acting
Your other complaints are fair enough (personally I really like Raimi's editing, but I can see why someone would dislike it) but the casting is pretty great all around with a few standout misfires. MJ and Tobey are the clearly bad casting choices, but pretty much everyone else is great. DeFoe as GG is universally praised. JK Simmons as JJ is the greatest casting of all time. Franco as Harry is appropriately douchey yet sympathetic. Aunt May is ripped right out of the old Lee comics. Uncle Ben is pitch perfect. Molina makes for a great Ock. The third film (which we can all agree is awful) is the only one with TRULY terrible casting.

>>82229580
>A 15 year old is stronger than all of them.
Unless we see Giant Man

>>82229710
>Raimi's Spider-man was more Peter Parker than the Spider-man we usually know.
Yes but he was only early Parker all 3 dang movies
>He was still just an awkward kid in a mask. He tried a bit to make light, but it's still just a kid playing superhero.
That got old, that should have only been him in the first movie. He never grew up he became a weird autistic adult.

>>82229771
We do, get hype.

>>82228654
Do you need to be walked back to one of the active DC threads anon?

>>82229448
This spider is based.

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>>82228654
kek

>>82229770
This, I agree with you on this except Sand Man was great. I prefer new milf May though but old May was perfectly accurate to the original version.

>>82229810
>40
Ha.

>>82229726
Civil War Spidey seems like the best we've gotten, although I haven't seen much obviously so he could be terrible. People are entitled to their opinion but I just don't understand why people think Raimi's Peter is wildly different from comics Peter. He feels very similar to classic Lee/Ditko Peter.

>>82226715
Oh my god nobody cares

>>82229780
The third film is really the only point at which Peter's attitude became unacceptable. And he was actually pretty Alpha in that movie. He kissed Gwen, acted generally confident, and was not mopey until after MJ left him.

>>82229819
Actually I agree that Sandman was the only good casting in Spiderman 3. Topher as Venom and BDH as Gwen were horrible.

>>82229853
>but I just don't understand why people think Raimi's Peter is wildly different from comics Peter. He feels very similar to classic Lee/Ditko Peter.
Because he was a flanderization of the Lee/Ditko Peter.

He was inaccurate because he was
>overly beta
>cried WAY too much

In added to that he looked too derpy compared to what he should.

>>82222728
This is cool but only if they keep it consistent. Now that you've established that he's strong enough to overpower peak humans in the MCU then keep it that way. BTW, shouldn't this also pretty much make him bullet proof? Since Cap can dent steel with his punches.

>>82229892
>The third film is really the only point at which Peter's attitude became unacceptable. And he was actually pretty Alpha in that movie. He kissed Gwen, acted generally confident, and was not mopey until after MJ left him.
That is the problem, he was good at first than went 100% anti status and ruined everything, heck he even joked around.

But nope, they butchered it.

The movie would have been great is black Spidey and Venom wasn't even part of the plot and handled Harry a bit better.

>>82229626

And the whole rest of him. His suit adheres too well to the crevices of his physique. In cases like that an actual suit would either fold or remain taut over parts that sink in. If it were a real suit, we shouldn't see so much of shoulder/collar muscle build. It's not a real suit.

>>82229915
>BDH as Gwen
How come she is top tier milf aunt in Jurassic World but a fat faced lmao in Spider-Man 3?

>>82229964
>The movie would have been great is black Spidey and Venom wasn't even part of the plot

Fun fact: Raimi never wanted to do Venom in the first place. He doesn't like the character. Sony forced him to do it and obviously it destroyed the movie.

>>82229931
But I don't understand this. Lee/Ditko Peter was EXTREMELY beta out of costume and he cried like every other issue. He was always whining internally about his responsibility and how shit his life is. He does it in every single issue for multiple years. I feel like people are forgetting the actual content of those comics because of their charm. Which is exactly how I react to the Raimi films. Peter is whiny just like in the comics, but the movies are charming and sweet.

>In added to that he looked too derpy compared to what he should.
No argument there, I think pretty much everyone agrees that Tobey is a goofy-looking motherfucker.

>>82229980
Keep telling yourself that.

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>>82228435
>at one point he even complains that he couldn't lift a car before the black suit
da fuq

>>82229990

BDH and Dunst should've played each-others characters. Dunst is a natural blond and might've made a convincing Gwen. Howard is a natural redhead, and is attractive enough to play MJ.

>>82230094
>BDH and Dunst should've played each-others characters. Dunst is a natural blond and might've made a convincing Gwen. Howard is a natural redhead, and is attractive enough to play MJ.
Truer words have never been spoken

>>82230094
Wow you're completely right...that's weird. Never occurred to me

>>82229050
>Except in the original Lee comics...he totally is.

You have never read those comics. You're not fooling anyone.

Peter was on the outside of the group because he was incapable of socializing. Hell, he tries to ask some chick named Sally out on a date on page 2 of Amazing Fantasy #15. In fact, he actively tries to hang out with people right away. But Flash, being a douchey bully early on, shoves him out of the social group which causes everyone else to band wagon and shit on him.

In ASM #1, the first half of the issue is him being an arrogant asshole and deciding that HE should be the leader of the Fantastic Four. He goes there and fucks their shit up for a bit before getting caught. When the FF tell him they're a non-profit organization he pretty much tells them to fuck off and bails.

By ASM #7, he already scores a date with Betty Brant.

When ASM #8 comes around, Peter decides he's sick of Flash's shit and challenges him to a boxing match, exclusively to humiliate him in front of all his friends. He punches out Flash in a single hit.

And so on and so fourth. Peter is nothing like the beta loser that Raimi thinks he is.

>>82229167
>Its clear that Raimi is a big fan of the original Lee/Ditko run.
Then why didn't he bother to read any of those issues?

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>>82229050
>Beta

https://twitter.com/DAIROCKETTO/status/725005235500945408

I know you're in here.

>>82230020
>Now that I know that.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>82230023
>But I don't understand this. Lee/Ditko Peter was EXTREMELY beta out of costume and he cried like every other issue. He was always whining internally about his responsibility and how shit his life is. He does it in every single issue for multiple years. I feel like people are forgetting the actual content of those comics because of their charm. Which is exactly how I react to the Raimi films. Peter is whiny just like in the comics, but the movies are charming and sweet.
But Tobey was whinny in costume. That is what I keep saying, he might have been a good Peter but man he wasn't a good Spidey.

>>82222903
>tfw baritone voice doing commentary and announcements for my school since age 12
I was an abomination but I used what was given to me.

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>>82230031

Seeing as I have the good sense to spot what's animated and what's real, I clearly don't have to.

Pic slightly related. It's what tight fabric looks like on people.

>>82230158
>that one page
Already more enjoyable than the Raimi movies

>>82229564
No. Its a suit with CGI effects over it.

>>82230158
Tinkerer in MCU when?

>>82229499
>normally he is supposed to do both
Isn't that because he's scared? If it means that he actually knuckles up and doesn't need to tell jokes because is a veteran at it by a point, I'm perfectly fine with him not joking as much.

Seriously, a decades old Spider-Man shouldn't be insulting and talking smack at people to distract himself from fear. He should do it because it's funny. Teenage Spidey has that excuse. Grown man Spidey doesn't, it should be old hat for him after the first couple of years.

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>>82230234
have another

>>82229710
>Raimi's Spider-man was more Peter Parker than the Spider-man we usually know.
This is factually wrong. He wasn't Spider-Man, true. But nor was he Peter Parker. He was some other character that very vaguely resembled Peter Parker.

>>82227127
k

>>82229853
>but I just don't understand why people think Raimi's Peter is wildly different from comics Peter

Go read a Spider-Man comic and find out. They couldn't be any more unalike.

>>82230272
Why don't neo comics have this charm anymore?

Now it's all about appeasing the manlets who want characters to have sex and appeasing the SJWs who want gay crap.

Before it was about the story, charm, and battles rather than the edginess. Say what you want but Marvel films do a great job of what made me like the original comics in the first place.

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>>82230333
I couldnt tell you man

>>82230304
>Responding to ancient history to carry on a dumb joke

Please leave back to Tumblr newfag

>>82230166
>Tobey was whinny in costume
When? The only times I can recall are when he's losing his powers, going after Ben's killer, or when someone he loves is being actively threatened by a super-villain. When he's just swinging around fighting criminals he seems like he's having a great time.

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>>82230344
If they do the half mask thing in his movies I'll be diamonds

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>>82222728
>Can't see cameraman reflected in Spidey's eyes

It's shit

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>>82230234

>>82230278
This. And the saddest part is that 90% of casual normalfags are stuck with that thing as their criteria for what and who Spider-man should be.

>>82230414
Jimmy Neutron

>>82230393
>If they do the half mask thing in his movies I'll be diamonds
What you mean?

>>82230393
>brother

>>82229713
he was flipping cars in ASM2

>>82230272
>Rollin' trollin' Parker
The best

>>82230418
The digital versions of old comics just plain suck eggs

>>82230426
>This. And the saddest part is that 90% of casual normalfags are stuck with that thing as their criteria for what and who Spider-man should be.
Exactly nostalgia fags know him only for the original movies and say this is Peter Parker.

In my opinion Peter Parker should be like the 90s and 60s show.

>>82230350
K

>>82230219
>Seeing as I have the good sense to spot what's animated and what's real
>posts pic of worst example of tight clothing

Oh lord.

>>82222835
>Or has the fact that teenagers tend to be played by adults in media finally warped most of humanity's mind?
This. We're so used to adults playing teenagers it feels weird. Then again, Rachel McAdams was in her midtwenties in Mean Girls and she was noticeably older than the rest of the cast.

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>>82230448
This

>>82230507
Will you shut up

>>82230572
Oh yeah that would be awesome

As a kid I used to have a toy car that had that exact image on it. It might still be in the basement somewhere...

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>>82230448

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>>82228654
>quipping

In 10 days?
Lmao, I'm watching it on friday

>>82230647
10 days for the USA.

>>82230551
Goddamn bitches love Peter.

>>82230665
Thanks pinewood studios

>>82230675
>b-b-b-b-but Lee/Ditko Peter is beta as fuck!

>>82222728

If only Spidey wasn't the sole reason I plan to watch this movie.

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>>82230675
How could you not?

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>>82230703
>>b-b-b-b-but Lee/Ditko Peter is beta as fuck!
Exactly, proof they are just nostalgia fags for the movies
/thread

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>>82230755
>/threading your own post

>>82228369
And in the Raimi films he stopped a train and did the whole lifting a falling building moment. Where are people suggesting he hasn't been portrayed as super strong getting that? Because he didn't one shot the Lizard off the roof in ASM or something?

>>82230712
That's sad.

>>82230768
>beats up muggers everynight

>>82230789
>beats up niggers everynight
FTFY

>>82227884
Would you say it'd be Interstellar?

>>82230839
but how can he see em? spidersense?

>>82230888
>but how can he see em? spidersense?
Yep

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>>82230548
>posts pic of worst example of tight clothing

Don't see how it's the worst example. It perfectly illustrates my point. Tight clothing does not conform to every inch of a person's physique/muscle structure.

>>82229448
I kind of wish Spider-Man made more of a sarcastic quip.

Like something about Bucky's metal arm not helping him much, since Spidey has super-strength.

Saying it's awesome is just kind of fanboy-ish. Does Spider-Man ever really do that with anyone, other than Cap?

>>82228562
>>82228488

In the scene he makes a joke that he use to have to have trouble lifting a Volkswagen.
He doesn't claim he couldn't lift a fire truck, just that it wasn't effortless from before.

>>82230333
>Why don't neo comics have this charm anymore?
because people now look at that as some sort of lectureship on how you have to accept your a loser and work around that rather than forcing the world to see differently

Also because people want the world to burn anymore.

>>82231263
>He doesn't claim he couldn't lift a fire truck
He doesn't claim it, he attampts it on screen. With his, "Lets see how strong I am now!" comment.

>>82222728
DUDE

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>>82231322

>>82231337
But that doesn't imply he couldn't.

he grabs a falling fire truck a few episodes back and has lifted heavier things than a fire truck post blacksuit saga.

>>82222728

>TV spot #30
>Trailer 936

Fuck man, if you splice all of these together in order the only bit missing would be the fucking after credits scene...

Seriously fucking annoying they're releasing so many trailers, Deadpool was ruined for me because of 2 trailers and about 50 TV spots, I don't have self control, Fuck you Fox and Disney.

>>82231436
>I don't have self control, Fuck you Fox and Disney.
That's your own fault, pal. Not Fox's nor Disney's.

>>82231436
not really, no

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>>82228435
This. Mfw I found out the black suit in the comic did nothing but look cool and drain his life force

>>82230647
I'm watching it tomorrow.

>>82231525
>and drain his life force
It doesn't do this.

>>82231436
About 930 of those trailers are just them running at each other on that airstrip.

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>>82231337
before the suit he could hold Scorpion back even though it stated he weighs about 1000lbs and that's a moving target that can fight back.
without the suit he rips off titanium gauntlets of Kingpin.

I feel his power level was whatever the narrative ask for

>>82222903
>5'11 in 7th grade
>6'4 when I graduated high school
My voice cracked a bit, but stopped in 2013.

>>82228654
It sucked 10x more, that's for sure

>>82231617
>I feel his power level was whatever the narrative ask for

Which is true in the comics, too. Hell, its true for every character in any comic.

>>82231251
>you have a metal arm? I'm a Spider, not a dog.

>>82228435
>>82231525
The suit augmentation was written in with the introduction of Venom in Spider man 300 and up.
They had to explain away how a normal guy like Eddie could reach Hulk levels strength with just the suit. This lead to Spidey stating in the 320s(forget the number) that the suit increased his super human powers even though we never saw that visually in the run of the suit on Spidey in the comics.

>>82231656
>but stopped in 2013
Youngfag

>>82231683
>Which is true in the comics, too.
no shit Sherlock what you think the png was for?

>>82231708
19 isn't that young, right?

>>82231689
fuck off

>>82222903
>16
>voice was deep and naturally sounded like i was high
>6'3

You mustve had a rough time in high school

>>82231723
Come back when you're 112

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>>82231690
This is factually wrong.

>>82231723
it is when you are in your thirties
hell people always see what a decade or two before them is as young. It's not till the 60s that kind of talk stops for obvious reasons

>>82227871
GOOD TASTE

>>82231746
fuck off, Aang

>>82231756
Oh cool so the suit could have made him stronger but didn't because he already had powers?

>>82231756
wow shocking
contradictory information in comics

>>82231746
Is that before or after I transcend from a Wizard to a Lich? Or am I missing a step in-between?

>>82231767
I see what you mean, my dad's like 50 though.

>>82228701
>>82228741
>>82228770
the only good thing is the mask
its a rehash of the raimi in every other way

>>82231782
You have no power over be

>>82231756
that is so retarded 90's level logic.
The suit would make web, let him change appearances, take over his damn body and use him but amping his strength and powers was a no because the alien that was in some sort of status/prison on an alien world somehow already knew Parker was stronger than most humans and held that back but not those other things?

>>82222799
Teenagers aren't played by 30 year olds in real life.

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>>82231916
>because the alien that was in some sort of status/prison on an alien world somehow already knew Parker was stronger than most humans
Or maybe because it learned that when it bonded with him? And went through his memories?

>>82231916
It gets worse when you relies that at least in the 90s Venom was stronger than Spider-man

Visually I think Venom is a fun character but Im happy Eddie Brock Venom is gone, his motives, logic and the like were awful as a villain/antihero. He work a lot better as that crazy cure the world hobo bit he had as Anti-venom, shame he is now just Red Venom.
That said I like Space Knight Venom to be over and get something more grounded on a street level.

>>82228412
>young=short

top kek buddy

>>82231916
They hadn't thought of the idea of the suit amplifying Peter's natural powers yet. It was just duplicating his powers for others.

>>82231976
But why hold back.
No matter what canon of the suit's origin you go with it makes no sense he bless with all that shit but keep the super boost to strength turn off. Hell the original narrative was the suit did all that shit for Parker to be more incline to stay it's host, I think offering the power to one punch your foes would be a big sale item to that cause.

>>82222741
IM SUPER FUCKING MAD ABOUT BOTH THAT FUCKER CAN LIFT FUCKING TRAINCARS NO PROBLEM BUT SOM MECH ARM OR SHT STRENGTH CAN STOP HIM FUCK YOU the comics are also super inconsistent but still

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>>82232016
Im pretty sure it's stated by Pete before or soon after that scene that Venom is stronger than him.
This scene from their first fight implies Venom is stronger than him.

>>82231814
Correct.

>>82227800
>No. That was you and a minority of kids.

The Anon doth protest too much.

>>82227630
I think Peter was always a bit immature as a kid, like how when you're like 11 your still into like toys or tricks or projects, but when you're 16 all you think about is getting laid

But for Peter, he never left that whole toys and projects stage, he just gets mad pussy for no reason

>>82232122
That was because Eddie had more muscles.

>>82231848
Where is this ever contradicted? Wanna provide some actual proof before you start bitching?

>>82232016
>>82231916
Narrativly they should have just written it as the suit leech of Spidey's super powers thanks to his unstable radioactive blood.
Get your super strong bad guy with no recons.

>>82231723
I always forget that the 4chan userbase didn't keep getting older without new people coming in. I always figure I'm arguing with mentally deficient adults when I'm actually just arguing with standard intelligence teenagers. I'm really not sure which of the two is worse but boy howdy does it make me feel old either way.

>>82231854
>Is that before or after I transcend from a Wizard to a Lich?
After. This is a Lich only zone.

>>82228654
>1.jpg
wew lad

>>82231862
>its a rehash of the raimi in every other way
You're fucking blind.

>No raised webbing
>Webbing actually black, instead of grey
>brighter colors
>different spider symbol
>different web pattern

>>82232176
But Spidey has taken down human thugs stronger than Eddie.
It makes little sense that the suit can let Eddie peak over Spidey's powers unless the suit can just amplify strength that much and then we are back to >>82232046

>>82232211
Is 19 a Mage? Or am I still apprentice tier.

>>82231916
>that is so retarded 90's level logic.
The issue came out in the 80's, numb nuts.

>>82231993
>It gets worse when you relies that at least in the 90s Venom was stronger than Spider-man
He has always been stronger. Go read ASM #300. Hell, read any Venom appearance.

Fuckin' casuals.

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This thread needs less company wars and more Raimemes

>>82232356
Pizza time!

>>82228882
This, anyone that's looking forward to Spider-quips is just a shill. Who the fuck wants to sit through 2 hours of total character assassination by having Spider-man quip every other line. Ultron was bad enough, but doing it with Spider-man will just ruin the character.

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>>82232279
Why do you think I called it that?
If it was from the 90's that would be redundant to say.
I'm aware it's from 89 yet sadly you can see the quality of writing eroding to 90's levels where nothing adds up.

>>82232176
The symbiote is able to amplify strength proportionately. It gives Brock strength equal to Spider-Man + the addition of any strength he is able to muster on his own through training and working out.

If it wasn't for the symbiote, Brock would be a complete chump. He would be a muscular dude. But still just a regular human.

>>82232279
Not anon but I think that's why anon put '90s level' on it because it wasn't the 90s but it reminded him of storytelling from the 90s

>>82232356
PIZZA TIME