WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN: THE MCU

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The Incredible Hulk (2008)

>Mark Ruffalo was Louis Leterrier's original choice for Bruce Banner, but the studio favored Edward Norton.

>Ray Stevenson auditioned for Emil Blonsky before Tim Roth was cast.

>Norton had concerns about the movie's direction and demanded to revise the script. He notoriously clashed with producers and added several subplots that were partially filmed and ultimately cut.

>Stan Lee would originally cameo as the captain of the USS Excelsior, a fishing boat that Banner and Betty hire to take them to Manhattan after the U.S. military blockade the bridge.

>The Hulk would originally decapitate the Abomination with the chain wrapped around his neck. This was changed due to negative reception from test-audiences.

>Norton was a fan of "The Wire" and added a subplot about a man, played by Michael K. Williams, who reaches out to the Hulk during the Battle of Harlem to stop the destruction. The subplot was almost entirely cut and Williams' role reduced to a cameo.

>Norton also added an extended comedic sequence where Banner interacts with a computer geek while trying to retrieve data from the university. Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill and Jason Segel were approached to make an appearance as the computer geek, but when they all declined, the scene was scrapped and the geek reduced to a cameo, played by Martin Starr.

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Iron Man 2 (2010)

>Emily Blunt was originally cast as Natasha Romanoff, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts and was replaced by Scarlett Johansson.

>Terrence Howard, who played James Rhodes, was the highest-paid actor in "Iron Man", and asked to accept a pay cut for the sequel. When he refused, he was fired and replaced by Don Cheadle.

>Tim Robbins was approached to play Howars Stark, but declined.

>Zhang Ziyi was approached to play Rumiko Fujikawa before the character was scrapped.

>Justin Hammer was originally the main villain, and would've been an older, shrewd businessman. Producers envisioned Al Pacino in the role, but the idea was scrapped when Hammer was made into a younger, more comedic character and the secondary antagonist.

>Ivan Vanko was originally a secondary villain, alongside his brother Boris Bullsky. Vanko would die during the fight in Monaco, and Bullsky would be recruited by Hammer to become Titanium Man and avenge his brother's death. Sam Rockwell originally auditioned for Bullsky before the two characters were merged into one and made into the primary antagonist, played by Mickey Rourke.

>Jon Favreau's original plan was to adapt the "Demon in a Bottle" storyline, with Stark descending into alcoholism due to Hammer's machinations to ruin his public image, government pressure to surrender his technology and Pepper finding a new boyfriend, but the studio felt the subject was too dark and persuaded Favreau to change it to a storyline of Stark dying of Palladium poisoning.

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>>82170434
>Hawkeye was featured in early drafts, but was cut due to being superfluous to the narrative, filling the same role as Black Widow.

>In early cuts, Stark and Romanoff had a more flirtatious relationship. Most of these scenes where cut as test-audiences believed it underscored Stark's relationship with Pepper.

>In early cuts, Vanko was a more sympathetic character, but most of these scenes were cut, which displeased Rourke. He disowned the movie and swore never to work with Marvel again.

>Rourke added most of Vanko's quirks such as the hair, the tattoos, the dentures and the bird.

>Favreau notoriously complained about the rushed production schedule that didn't allow him to refine the script as much as he wanted. The cast once again ad-libbed most of their dialogue.

>In the original ending, Vanko would kidnap Pepper to force Stark to surrender to him and be executed, but War Machine intervenes and rescues Stark and Pepper before killing Vanko with the Ex-Wife missile. Test-audiences felt the ending was anti-climatic, and a new version where Iron Man and War Machine fight an armored Vanko was filmed.

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Thor (2011)

>Daniel Craig was the original choice to play Thor, but declined.

>Charlie Hunnam, Joel Kinnaman, Alexander Skarsgard and Tom Hiddleston auditoned for Thor. Hiddleston impressed producers enough to be offered the role of Loki. The frontrunners were Chris Hemsworth and Liam Hemsworth, with Chris ultimately being cast.

>Natalie Portman agreed to play Jane Foster because she felt the need to be in a lighter movie afte the emotionally straining "Black Swan".

>Josh Hartnett and Charlie Cox auditioned for Loki.

>Brian Blessed was originally approached to play Odin.

>Jessica Biel and Diora Baird auditoned for Sif.

>Alexander Townsend was originally cast as Fandral, but was fired due to his erractic behavior. Zachary Levi was originally approached to replace him, but couldn't commit, and Josh Dallas was cast.

>Early drafts featured Thor's human alter-ego, Dr. Donald Blake, and Kevin McKidd was reportedly approached to play him before the character was scrapped.

>Early drafts featured Thor and Loki's other brother, Balder.

>At one point, Sif and Heimdall would've been siblings, and Sif would've been black, but the idea was scrapped.

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Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)

>Louis Leterrier volunteered to direct the movie, but the studio favored Joe Johnston.

>Joss Whedon made minor revisions to the script after signing on to direct "The Avengers".

>Channing Tatum, Garrett Hedlund, Scott Porter, Mike Vogel, Michael Cassidy, Wilson Bethel, Chace Crowford, Jensen Ackles and Sebastian Stan auditoned for Steve Rogers before Chris Evans was cast. Stan impressed producers and was hired to play James "Bucky" Barnes.

>Evans was initially reluctant to join due to the nine-picture contract offered by the studio, but agreed once it was reduced to a six movie contract.

>Emily Blunt was offered the role of Peggy Carter, but declined. Rosamund Pike, Alice Eve, Keira Knightley, Gemma Arterton and Alexa Davalos auditoned before Hayley Atwell was cast.

>Thomas Kretschmann auditioned for the role of Red Skull. He'd later play Baron Wolfgang von Strucker in "Avengers: Age of Ultron".

>Early drafts featured Baron Heinrich Zemo and Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker as high-ranking members of Hydra, but the writers believed they'd be wasted on minor role and should be used later as main antagonists.

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The Avengers (2012)

>Jon Favreau was approached to direct the movie, but declined, while Louis Leterrier volunteered his services, but was turned down.

>Joe Carnahan was in discussion to direct the movie before Joss Whedon was hired.

>Zak Penn wrote the original script, and produced multiple drafts to accomodate the developments of the MCU. At one point, there were plans to introduce Thor and Loki directly in the movie rather than give Thor his own feature, as producers believed audiences would react poorly to the tonal dissonance of Thor's magic-oriented story.

>Penn's original drafts featured the Avengers being assembled by SHIELD to fight Hulk, who had been brainwashed by Loki, before they join forces to defend the Earth from an invasion of the Frost Giants. When Whedon joined the project, he scrapped Penn's version and wrote his own draft.

>Whedon originally wanted to use Ultron as the main villain, but was convinced by Marvel to use Loki as originally planned.

>Ant-Man and the Wasp were featured in early drafts. Ant-Man was removed after his movie was delayed. Whedon still wanted to include the Wasp, but the character was ultimately cut for being superfluous to the plot.

>Early drafts made Stark into the main character, but further revisions turned the movie into a more effective ensemble.

>Whedon was the one that suggested that Thanos be added to the movie as Loki's benefactor.

>Originally, Thor would use lightning to revive Stark after he falls back from the wormhole. Ruffalo improvised the scene where Hulk awakens Stark by roaring at him, and Whedon liked it enough to include it in the movie.

>Early cuts were over three hours long. To scale down the running time, Whedon cut several segments of the Battle of New York and several scenes about Rogers' struggle to adapt to modern times.

>In early cuts, Maria Hill being debriefed by the World Security Council about the Battle of New York is using a framing device that opens and closes the movie.

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Iron Man 3 (2013)

>Tom Hooper was approached to direct the movie before Shane Black was hired at Robert Downey Jr.'s behest.

>Early plots discussed for the movie including Stark dismantling a conspiracy to sell Arc Reactor-powered weaponry on the black market and Stark attempting to prevent the Mandarin from hijacking China's efforts to create their own Iron Men.

>The Mandarin was originally the main villain, but Black and writer Drew Peace believed him to be a racist caricature and decided to make him a fabrication of the real villain.

>Originally, Maya Hansen would've been the main villain, but in further revisions her role was reduced in favor of Aldrich Killian.

>Jude Law was approached to play Killian before Guy Pearce was cast.

>Jessica Chastain was originally cast as Maya Hanse, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts. Gemma Arterton, Isla Fisher and Diane Kruger auditioned before Rebecca Hall was cast.

>Andy Lau was originally cast as Dr. Chen Wu, an old friend of Stark's who is instrumental to Killian's defeat, but dropped out and was replaced by Wang Xueqi. The role was reduced in further revisions, although the Chinese cut of the movie had several minor aditional scenes of Wu and his assistant, played by Fan Bingbing, to cater to Chinese audiences.

>Anthony Mackie auditioned for the role of Eric Savin. He'd later play the Falcon.

>Black's first draft for the movie was rated R.

>In early drafts, Extremis was a nanotechnology-based version of the Supersoldier Serum, but was later changed to a gene therapy procedure.

>In early drafts, Pepper would've had a tryst with Killian. Killian would use his Extremis-enhanced pheromones to seduce her, record their sexual encounter and broadcast it nationwide to taunt Stark.

>"Iron Man 3" was the last movie in Robert Downey Jr.'s original four-picture contract, and was written as a definitive end for the character should Downey Jr. not renegotiate to play the character in further installments.

>>82170322
>Louis Leterrier was also interested
>>82170613
>Louis Leterrier volunteered to direct the movie
>>82170693
>Louis Leterrier volunteered his services, but was turned down.
Dude...

>>82170824
Nigga really wants to do some comic book movies.

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Thor: The Dark World (2013)

>Patty Jenkins was hired to direct the movie at Natalie Portman's behest, but dropped out due to creative differences, and was replaced by Alan Taylor. Portman was reportedly upset by the decision and no longer wanted to be in the movie, but was contractually obligued to do so.

>Taylor notoriously clashed with producers, as he wanted a longer, darker and grittier movie, while they preferred a shorter, more humorous and sci-fi-oriented movie. The movie was revised multiple times during filming to find a middle ground, and several scenes were cut. Taylor also hated the stinger directed by James Gunn, which he felt didn't fit with the movie's tone.

>Mads Mikkselsen was originally cast as Malekith, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts and was replaced by Christopher Eccleston.

>Josh Dallas couldn't reprise his role as Fandral due to scheduling conflicts and was replaced by Zachary Levi.

>In early drafts, Malekith was a more sympathetic character, and his backstory included witnessing his family needlessly being slaughtered by Thor's grandfather, Bors, fueling Malekith's hatred of Asgard and his obsession with plunging the Universe into darkness to restore his people.

>In early drafts, Sif had a larger role and would compete with Jane for Thor's affections, but most of her scenes were cut after Jamie Alexander injured herself on set.

>In early drafts, Loki had a minor role, but further revisions expanded his part due to his newfound popularity caused by "The Avengers".

>Early draft also included larger roles for Jane's suitor, Richard, played by Chris O'Dowd; and Asgardian commander Tyr, played by Clive Russell. They also featured the Valkyrie in a pivotal role.

>In early drafts, Jane would be corrupted by the Aether and become a vengeful sorceress, but this was scrapped as a "needless complication".

>Joss Whedon did minor revisions on the script. One of his demands a shirtless scene for Chris Hemsworth.

>>82170824
Louis "pls respond" Leterrier

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>>82170824
Please notice me Feige senpai.

>>82170553
>Charlie Cox as Loki
ASGARD IS YOUR CITY

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Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)

>F. Gary Gray and George Nolfi were considered to direct the movie before Joe & Anthony Russo were hired.

>Anna Kendrick, Emilia Clarke, Felicity Jones, Imogen Gay Poots, Teresa Palmer, Alison Brie, Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Jessica Brown Findlay auditioned for Sharon Carter before Emily VanCamp was cast.

>Kevin Durand, Josh Holloway and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau auditioned for Brock Rumlow before Frank Grillo was cast.

>Michael B. Jordan auditioned for Sam Wilson before Anthony Mackie was cast.

>Alec Baldwin was approached to play Alexander Pierce before Robert Redford agreed to join the movie.

>Early drafts featured several flashbacks of Captain America in WWII to explore his friendship with Bucky and his Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, but they were nearly entirely scrapped from the movie.

>Early drafts featured Hawkeye being deployed to capture Captain America after he escapes from the Triskelion, leading to a chase through the streets of Washington, D.C. that ends with Rogers and Barton fighting in an abandoned warehouse. Rogers gains the upper hand, and Barton alerts him that there are tracking devices on his suit before letting Rogers go and making it appear as if he had escaped. He would later coordinate the evacuation of the Triskelion and protect innocent agents from Hydra operatives, but writers felt he was superfluous to the narrative and Renner was unavailable for the majority of filming.

>In early drafts, Sharon Carter had a larger role. To streamline the narrative, parts of her character were merged with Black Widow.

>In early drafts, Zola would survive the explosion at the old SHIELD outpost by leaving in a robotic body, but the idea was scrapped as it "looked too silly" after such a emotionally-heavy scene.

>Black Widow and Hawkeye were originally romantically attached, and Scarlett Johansson suggested the arrow necklace Romanoff wears throughout the movie.

>>82170434
I heard ScarJo was originally cast as Karla Sofen for IM2

>>82170909
I kek'd

>>82170873
>>Joss Whedon did minor revisions on the script. One of his demands a shirtless scene for Chris Hemsworth.

So Joss is straight up gay.

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Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)

>Peyton Reed was considered to direct the movie before James Gunn was hired.

>Joel Edgerton, Eddie Redmayne, Jensen Ackles, Jack Huston, Cam Gigandet, Sullivan Stapleton, Logan Marshall-Green, Garrett Hedlund, Chris Lowell, James Marsden, Jim Sturgess, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Aaron Paul, Michael Rosenbaum, Wes Bentley, John Krasinski, Lee Pace and Glenn Howerton auditioned for the role of Star-Lord before Chris Pratt was cast. According to Gunn,Howerton would be offered the part if Pratt hadn't been cast.

>Gunn originally didn't want to watch Pratt's audition tape, believing him to be wrong for the role, but was ultimately convinced by his assistant and immediately decided Pratt was the ideal Star-Lord.

>Gina Carano, Olivia Wilde, Rachel Nichols, Thandie Newton and Adrianne Palicki auditioned for the role of Gamora, while Elizabeth Banks campaigned for the part, before Zoe Saldana was cast.

>Jason Momoa was offered the role of Drax, but turned it down due to salary issues. Djimon Hounson, Brian Patrick Wade and Isaiah Mustafa also auditioned before Dave Bautista was cast. Hounsou was later cast as Korath.

>Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler and David Tennat were approached to voice Rocket before Bradley Cooper was cast.

>Gal Gadot auditoned for the role of Nebula.

>Early drafts featured Richard Rider becoming Nova as a counter-point to Star-Lord. In further revisions, Rider was cut so Star-Lord could be the sole focus.

>Early drafts featured Bug as a member of the team, but he had to be cut due to copyright issues.

>Early drafts featured an appearance of Adam Warlock.

>Gunn originally didn't want to include Thanos in the movie as mandated by the studio, as he believed it'd cheapen Ronan's role as the main villain. However, he found an appropriate middle ground in Ronan threatening to go after Thanos and killing his lackey, the Other.

>>82170988
>F. Gary Gray and George Nolfi were considered to direct the movie before Joe & Anthony Russo were hired.
No Louis Letterier?

>>82171095
He asked using a pseudonym of "George Nolfi" but his ruse was discovered. Fun fact: he auditioned for GOTG under the pseudonym of "Peyton Reed" and the executives liked his vison enough to hire actual Peyton Reed for Ant-Man

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>>82171087
>Early drafts included the Spartoi and the Nova Centurions.

>In early drafts, Yondu would die during the Battle of Xandar.

>Early cuts featured additional scenes set to "Livin' Thing" by ELO and "Spirit in the Sky" by Norman Greenbaum. Also, "Hooked on a Feeling" was originally set to Star-Lord's arrival at the Moragian temple to retrieve the orb.

>Early cuts featured an extended version of the epilogue set to "Ain't No Mountain High Enough", revealing an elderly Grandpa Quill still hoping Peter will return one day. The segment was cut because several test-audiences didn't recognize actor Gregg Henry due to the prosthetics used to make him look older, and felt that the scene was too depressing.

>Ronan's soldiers were originally the Badoon, but their rights were with 20th Century Fox, requiring them to be changed to Saakarans.

>Marvel wanted to use Galactus and the Silver Surfer in the scene where the Collector is explaining the Infinity Stones, and offered to extend the deadline for the rights of Daredevil so Fox could complete the troubled, long-delayed R-rated movie written and directed by Joe Carnahan that they were producing, in exchange for letting the Fantastic Four's affiliated characters revert to Marvel. Fox preferred to hold on to the Fantastic Four's lore, and a Celestial was used in that scene instead, while Daredevil and his affiliated characters reverted.

>Originally, Stan Lee would be part of the Collector's inventory and flip off Groot when Groot notices him, but Gunn changed it as believed it was "too meta".

>>82170873
Jeez, this movie was doomed from the start. Every decision was poorly thought out and it seems every accident that could fuck the movie did.

Talk about Murphy's Law. It's a wonder the movie was even coherent.

>>82170434
>>82170434
Marvel really really wants Emily Blunt in their movies.

>>82170988
>Black Widow and Hawkeye were originally romantically attached, and Scarlett Johansson suggested the arrow necklace Romanoff wears throughout the movie
FUCK YOU, WHEDON

>>82171334
Let's hope they finally manage to get her for Carol.

>>82171390
I'd watch it.

>>82171360
So close. Yet so far.

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Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)

>Saoirse Ronan was approached to play Scarlet Witch, but declined, and Elizabeth Olsen was cast.

>Dougray Scott and Marton Csokas auditioned for the role of Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker.

>Natalie Martinez auditioned for the role of Laura Barton.

>Early into production, there were plans for J.A.R.V.I.S. to become Ultron.

>The Tesseract and Loki's staff were originally not going to be Infinity Stones. They were retroactively made into part of the Stones to further Thanos' storyline.

>Loki would originally appear in Thor's vision, discussing the impending cataclysm in the ruins of Asgard. This was cut because test-audiences were confused about the nature of the vision and believed it implied Loki was behind Ultron becoming sentient.

>The studio originally planned to cut the heroes' visions and reduce the segment at Hawkeye's farm, but Whedon convinced them otherwise. He was require to include the segment about Thor's investigation into the Infinity Stone, although it was later poorly received by test-audiences and mostly cut.

>Whedon included the romantic subplot between Banner and Black Widow as he felt the Hawkeye/Black Widow pairing originally planned by the studio was too predictable.

>Whedon notoriously struggled to write the script and clashed with the studio throughout production.

>The rough cut was over three hours long and severely edited to reduce the running time, which included completely reestructuring the final battle, which required lenghty reshoots and post-production.

>An alternative ending where Quicksilver survives and joins the New Avengers was filmed should the studio change their minds about the character's death.

>The original formation of the New Avengers also included Spider-Man and Captain Marvel, but the deal with Sony Pictures was not yet finalized and the studio felt Captain Marvel was best served being introduced in her own movie.

>>82171087
>According to Gunn, Howerton would be offered the part if Pratt hadn't been cast.
Alright, since we know Glenn has someone close with Marvel, how long until they get the film rights to F4 back, and the Always Sunny cast stars in it?

>>82171442
>>Whedon included the romantic subplot between Banner and Black Widow as he felt the Hawkeye/Black Widow pairing originally planned by the studio was too predictable.

BRAVO WHENDUN

>>82171273

It was still a pretty darn good movie, I think. Not the best but I'd probably hang it on the same quality of Fox's original X-Men movie.

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>>82171442
>In early drafts, Ultron would recruit the Abomination to join him. Tim Roth was approached to return to the role before the idea was scrapped.

>In early drafts, the Battle of Sokovia would culminate with the Ultron drones combining to form a skyscrapper-sized Ultron that'd fight all the Avengers at once.

>In early drafts, Banner would reject Romanoff, as she views him as a representative of the stable, normal life she wishes she had, and he believes he's no longer entitled to. She would also trigger his transformation into the Hulk in the final battle by claiming to have lied about her feeling to keep the Hulk under control.

>In early drafts, Rogers and Stark would have a more contentious relationship and part on less amicable terms.

>In early drafts, Ultron was directly modeled after Stark's personality and his ideals were a corrupted, extremist version of Stark's own viewpoints about humanity.

>In early drafts, the Avengers confront Ultron, the Twins and Ulysses Klaw at a hijacked Vibranium mine in the outskirts of Wakanda, which was changed so as to give Wakanda a proper introduction in the standalone "Black Panther" movie.

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>>82171390
This is gonna be Carol.

>>82171494
>In early drafts, Ultron would recruit the Abomination to join him. Tim Roth was approached to return to the role before the idea was scrapped.

This makes me mad.

>>82171500
I love her in Vikings.

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>>82171465
>Dennis
Reed
>Dee
Sue
>Mac
Johnny the Flamer
>Charlie
Thing

My god, it works so well. Who would Frank play?

>>82171442
>>The studio originally planned to cut the heroes' visions and reduce the segment at Hawkeye's farm, but Whedon convinced them otherwise.
Good.
>He was require to include the segment about Thor's investigation into the Infinity Stone, although it was later poorly received by test-audiences and mostly cut.
I never get the issues people have with that one. Narratively it fit completely.
Wanda give bad visions and a brief glimps of the infintiy stones to Thor and he need to check verify them, those better vision warn him of the danger looming on Asguardn as well as the vision behind the vision: the nature of the infinity stones, thus convincing him of the need of creating Vision.

It flow perfectly with the story and explain his motivations clearly.

>>82170397
>Norton was a fan of "The Wire" and added a subplot about a man, played by Michael K. Williams, who reaches out to the Hulk during the Battle of Harlem to stop the destruction. The subplot was almost entirely cut and Williams' role reduced to a cameo.

>Norton also added an extended comedic sequence where Banner interacts with a computer geek while trying to retrieve data from the university. Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill and Jason Segel were approached to make an appearance as the computer geek, but when they all declined, the scene was scrapped and the geek reduced to a cameo, played by Martin Starr.

No wonder they kicked him out, what a cancerous cunt.

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Ant-Man (2015)

>"Ant-Man" would originally be part of Phase I with a tentpole release date in 2010.

>Edgar Wright was originally attached to direct the movie. Production was delayed numerous times, and he eventually dropped out due to creative differences with the studio.

>Wright reportedly wanted a stylized and completely standalone movie, unfitting with the tone and approach of the MCU. Studio revisions to his script, including mandatory cameos by Howard Stark and Peggy Carter, are what drove him to quit.

>Adam McKay and Rawson Marshall Thurber were considered to direct the movie before Peyton Reed was hired. McKay revised the script.

>Joseph Gordon-Levitt was the frontrunner to play Scott Lang alongside Paul Rudd.

>Jessica Chastain was approached to play Hope Van Dyne, but declined due to scheduling conflicts.

>Steve Buscemi was Reed's first choice to play Hank Pym, but was unavailable, and Michael Douglas was cast.

>Patrick Wilson was originally cast as Jim Paxton, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts when production was delayed.

>Matt Gerald was originally cast as a member of Scott's crew, Sam, but the character was scrapped in Reed's revisions.

>Early cuts included a prologue set in 1989, featuring a young Pym retrieving stolen data from a military compound in Cuba. Jordi Molla was cast as the compound's leader, General Castillo, but his scenes were cut.

>Early cuts featured Lang retrieving the stolen Cross Particles from HYDRA operative Mitchell Carson, but this was cut to leave the storyline to be explored in a potential sequel.

>Evangeline Lily nearly dropped out of the movie after Wright's departure, and only changed her mind after meeting Reed and learning her role would be expanded.

>Early cuts featured Darren Cross experimenting with the Cross Particles before unveiling the Yellowjacket, and testing the suit himself, explaining his insanity. The order of the scenes was rearranged in post-production to make the movie more dynamic.

>>82171488
I am actually glad he did. I liked that romance.

Moreover, establishing Hawkeye as a married man was a nice touch too.

>>82170397
>>82171617
I wonder if they originally asked for Norton to come back as Hulk for Avengers

>>82171087
I only have one problem with Thanos in GOTG, and it's the unnecessary name-drop from Drax at the end.

>Of course, it's really Thanos I need to kill.

There was no reason for Drax to even consider this yet. Either Ronan killed his family and Drax avenged them, or Thanos actually killed his family and Ronan was lying. But I don't see Drax as immediately deciding to kill Ronan's boss just because. If anything we should see a depressed Drax without a purpose in volume 2 since Thanos won't even be in it. Then Drax conclusively learns or realizes that Thanos actually is responsible and regains his focus.

But that line was lame and I feel like it was just there to placate stupid fanboys.

>>82170613
>Jensen Ackles
A shame the dude can't ever get away from Supernatural.

>>82171555
Their first villian: The Mole Man

>>82171680
>actually liked "Did we?"

It was awkward and forced

>>82171717
It wasn't.

>>82171555
The Traysh Man

>>82171735
It was

>>82170988
>Imogen Gay Poots
>gay poots
lmao

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>>82171670
>In Wright's draft, Lang is an petty criminal who has been arrested multiple times and Pym is a mad scientist obsessed with his legacy. Both characters were much less sympathetic than their movie counterparts.

>Hope Van Dyne had a minor role.

>Scott's crew was formed by eight different criminals, who all had minor roles.

>Darren Cross would become the Nano-Warrior rather than the Yellowjacket.

>Maggie and Paxton had larger roles. Scott, Maggie and Paxton would be childhood friends, and Scott and Paxton would have always competed for her affections. Paxton would been a petty crook before becoming a policeman, and much less sympathetic towards Scott.

>The final battle between Ant-Man and Nano Warrior would've taken place at a high-speed car chase.

>Reed's revisions added Scott's sympathetic backstory; Pym's more sympathetic characterization; a larger role for Hope; Scott's crew being condensed into Luis, Dave and Kurt; the Quantum Realm; Ant-Man fighting the Falcon; and reduced roles for Maggie and Paxton, with Paxton being a more sympathetic character.

>>82171489
Yeah, it's a weird one because it's technically competent but it never really rises to it's full potential either. I don't hate it but I wouldn't call it good either.

>>82171680
Sure, but they didn't need to replace it with Banner/Widow. Heck, I would've preferred them to find a way to make Widow pining for Hawkeye, wanting the normalcy he's gotten but needing to accept that she'll never get it. Probably would've still sucked, but it would've sucked less

>>82171807
It actually sounds like Wright would have made a worse film

>>82171712
He also did auditions for Starlord.
Our poor Dean really wants to get off the autistic Supernatural train.

>>82171087
>>Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler ... were approached to voice Rocket
Well thank fuck that didn't happen.

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>>82170693
>Robert Downey Jr. ad-libbed most of his dialogue.

>Edward Norton did not return due to his troubled relationship with Marvel Studios. David Duchovny was briefly considered as his replacement before Mark Ruffalo joined the cast.

>Jensen Ackles auditioned for Hawkeye before Jeremy Renner was cast.

>Morena Baccarin and Mary Elizabeth Winstead auditioned for Maria Hill before Cobie Smulders was cast.

>The movie was originally rated "R" for the scene where Phil Coulson is killed by Loki. To ensure the PG-13 rating, the blood was digitally erased, the stabbing was shortened and a reaction shot of Thor was added to "break" the continuous sequence of Coulson being stabbed and collapsing on the floor.

>>82171807
Wow, thank god wright left.

Making your main characters unlikable is how you get bvs

>>82171087
>Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler and David Tennat were approached to voice Rocket before Bradley Cooper was cast.
>Two idiotic suggestions and one cynical suggestion were considered before someone spoke up with a real idea
I love this kind of behind the scenes bullshit

>>82171807

Sweet jesus we dodged a bullet by having Wight leave.

>>82171933
When this thread was first made a week ago, I swear Wright himself was here being salty about this.

>>82171807
So Wright was a lazy prick who took 10 years to not-make a movie, and even then, it would've been bad?

Christ, how does anyone defend Wright in this situation.

>>82171972
>first made a week ago

lol

>>82171617
>No wonder they kicked him out, what a cancerous cunt.
This.
Fucking studio should've just let pls respond louis have his way with ruffalo.

>>82171807
>Reed's revisions added Scott's sympathetic backstory; Pym's more sympathetic characterization; a larger role for Hope; Scott's crew being condensed into Luis, Dave and Kurt; the Quantum Realm; Ant-Man fighting the Falcon; and reduced roles for Maggie and Paxton, with Paxton being a more sympathetic character.
So, all the best parts were Reed's?

Interesting.

>>82171883
>Morena Baccarin and Mary Elizabeth Winstead auditioned for Maria Hill before Cobie Smulders was cast.
>Morena Baccarin

I'm not too happy about the end result of this one.

>>82171010
More like he knew exactly just how many females craved Hemsworth's D, and were seeing the movie because of that.

>>82172114
Maria Hill isn't supposed to be a hottie anyway.

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>>82172134
I don't know. Anita Sarkisian invited him to watch her fuck her black bf, so it raises all sorts of questions.

>>82172157
Cobie Smulders is hot, so if that's what they were going for, they fumbled it.

>>82171883
>>Jensen Ackles auditioned for Hawkeye before Jeremy Renner was cast.
That might've worked well enough.

>>82171680
Youre pathetic.

>>82170794
>In early drafts, Pepper would've had a tryst with Killian. Killian would use his Extremis-enhanced pheromones to seduce her, record their sexual encounter and broadcast it nationwide to taunt Stark.

this would have been pretty Goat, but it doesn't really fit the family friendly frame Disney wants, I think Disney owned Marvel by this point

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>>82172157
Since when?

>>82171235
>Marvel wanted to use Galactus and the Silver Surfer in the scene where the Collector is explaining the Infinity Stones, and offered to extend the deadline for the rights of Daredevil so Fox could complete the troubled, long-delayed R-rated movie written and directed by Joe Carnahan that they were producing, in exchange for letting the Fantastic Four's affiliated characters revert to Marvel. Fox preferred to hold on to the Fantastic Four's lore, and a Celestial was used in that scene instead, while Daredevil and his affiliated characters reverted.
Fox you UTTER CUNTS.

>>82171883
>David Duchovny was briefly considered as his replacement before Mark Ruffalo joined the cast.

Trying to imagine David Duchovny as the Hulk is hard.

>>82172278
Jokes on them. F4 was shit while DD is bringing Marvel some big bucks.

Just out of curiousity, where are the sources for all of these?

>>82170397
>>Norton was a fan of "The Wire" and added a subplot about a man, played by Michael K. Williams, who reaches out to the Hulk during the Battle of Harlem to stop the destruction. The subplot was almost entirely cut and Williams' role reduced to a cameo.

God Norton, between Banner coming to terms with the Hulk and fighting Bloskin who would give a FUCK about a Wire reference?

>>82170988
>have a literal robot guy narrate the extent ofHydra's reach
>Emotionally Heavy

>>82172278
It all turned out better than expected.

>>82172317
I love the DD Netflix series, and I'd trade that shit in a heartbeat for Marvel to be able to have the FF rights back.

>>82172134
Hell, that's probably the reason my mom went to go see it.

>>82172302
The Extremely Inquisitive Hulk.

>>82172278
Eson was cool though. I don't mind.

>>82172302
I can see it but I don't trust him to not fuck it up.

>>82171235
>Marvel wanted to use Galactus and the Silver Surfer in the scene where the Collector is explaining the Infinity Stones, and offered to extend the deadline for the rights of Daredevil so Fox could complete the troubled, long-delayed R-rated movie written and directed by Joe Carnahan that they were producing, in exchange for letting the Fantastic Four's affiliated characters revert to Marvel. Fox preferred to hold on to the Fantastic Four's lore, and a Celestial was used in that scene instead, while Daredevil and his affiliated characters reverted.

And Marvel still came out on top, but oh what could have been

>Originally, Stan Lee would be part of the Collector's inventory and flip off Groot when Groot notices him, but Gunn changed it as believed it was "too meta".

Fuck that would have been great

>>82170873
>Josh Dallas couldn't reprise his role as Fandral due to scheduling conflicts and was replaced by Zachary Levi.
I feel bad for not noticing Zachary Levi in the movie. I like that dude.

>>82172348
Word, my mother always brings up Thor 1 as her favorite MCU movie

>>82172344
>Marvel to be able to have the FF rights back
Was it actually all the FF stuff, or just Silver Surfer and Galactus?

>>82172408
Josh Dallas will get a job again. He's married to Judy.

>>82171087
>Isaiah Mustafa
Look at your movie, now look back at me. YOUR MOVIE IS NOW DIAMONDS!!

>>82171555
Mole Man

>>82172429
Just them.

>>82171670
>Steve Buscemi was Reed's first choice to play Hank Pym, but was unavailable, and Michael Douglas was cast.
Don't you mean Wright's first choice? Douglas was cast before Reed was on the movie.

>>82171087
>we could have had Dick Rider, which means we'd have Dick Rider back in the comics

goddamn it world

>>82172471
Well fuck them, DD was worth it.

>>82172477
Yeah, I mixed 'em up.

>>82171235
I wonder if Marvel could offer up some of their franchises to give to FOX in exchange for FF, like Alpha Flight or Captain Britain or even Squirrel Girl

>>82171807
Wright pissed and moaned for 4 years and his vision sounded like shit in the end, good riddance

>>82172540
B-but he made le hot fuzz!

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>>82170553
>>Brian Blessed was originally approached to play Odin.

Why? Why do we live in this cruel reality where Brian goddamn Blessed didn't get to play the All-Father?

Don't get me wrong, Anthony Hopkins did a bang-up job, but holy shit what a wonderful thing it would have been to see Blessed do it.

>>82172157
hot enough for Tony to fuck her, granted he had cyber Alzheimer, but still

>>82172539
>We'll give you Gwenpool in exchange for the Fantastic Four
>sweating fox executive.jpg

>>82172485
It'll come in time. If Gunn doesn't want to use Rich then he shouldn't be forced to. That wouldn't end well for anybody. Besides, Gunn signed on for GOTG, not GOTG and friends. You don't want to clutter shit too much early on.

Better that he's saved for his own movie and a team that legitimately loves him.

>>82172596
>>82172596
wouldn't work, Sony has Spidey rights, they'd piss and moan they own every version of her

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For curiosity's sake, here are pre-MCU versions of some of the studio's most prolific franchises.

>Iron Man (1997).
Written by Jeff Vintar and Stan Lee.

Businessman Tony Stark is shot by a smart bullet of his own design and crawls into the prototype Redeemer suit of armor, designed to help firemen extract victims from wreckage, so its life support system can treat his injuries. Aided by Virginia "Pepper" Potts, a member of the board of directors of Stark Industries, Stark uncovers board member Jeremy Bland as the mastermind behind his failed assassination, and learns that Bland is in league of Advanced Idea Mechanics (AIM), an international crime syndicate that aspires to use Stark's technology to create living weapons.

Stark weaponizes the Redeemer to stand against AIM's enforcers Whiplash, Inferno and Virus and prevent their employer, M.O.D.O.K. (Mechanized Organism Designed Only for Killing), from corrupting his creations, in the process forging an heroic legacy as Iron Man.

>Nicolas Cage as Tony Stark / Iron Man.

>>82172571
We're not blessed enough for that to happen.

>>82172485
Blame Gunn, he doesn't like Nova.

Nicole Perlman's script included him.

>>82171235
>elderly Grandpa Quill still hoping Peter will return one day.
> felt that the scene was too depressing.
No shit, that's sad. And they'll probably never touch on that again.

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>>82172626
They own Gwen Stacy.
They don't own Gwen Poole.
Why do you think they gave her that name?

>>82170553
>Early drafts featured Thor and Loki's other brother, Balder.
Aww.

>>82171834
I actually like the couple.
>>82172214
There is nothing pathetic about that.

>>82172665
Fox doesn't need Deadpool

>>82171715
Perfection.

>>82171494
>In early drafts, Banner would reject Romanoff, as she views him as a representative of the stable, normal life she wishes she had, and he believes he's no longer entitled to. She would also trigger his transformation into the Hulk in the final battle by claiming to have lied about her feeling to keep the Hulk under control.

So the one idea joss had that could have made this relationship interesting, and it gets cut?

>>82172632
I don't think we could have handled this movie.

>>82171465
>The Gang Gives the Rights Back to Marvel

What are the sources on these? I've heard the majority of them before so I'm not doubting, just curious if you have the sources compiled as well.

>>82171442
>An alternative ending where Quicksilver survives and joins the New Avengers was filmed should the studio change their minds about the character's death.
Why are they not considering this? Fuck.

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>Iron Man (1999)
Written by Tim McCanlies.

Billionaire inventor Tony Stark is on the forefront of Artificial Intelligence. His main competitor, Justin Hammer, frames him for selling weapons to terrorists and masterminds Stark's assassination in order to steal his designs and create a new generation of A.I.-controlled weaponry that he can provide to both military forces and insurgent groups. Stark, however, survives, albeit with several pieces of shrapnel embedded in his chest, and develops a suit of armor to prolong his life and prove his innocence by bringing Hammer to justice.

As Iron Man dismantles Hammer's operations, he also becomes a target of Nick Fury, an Intelligence operative tasked with finding ths source of the cutting-edge weaponry being provided to criminal organizations across the globe. In the end, Stark and Fury put their differences aside and join forces to arrest Hammer, with Stark being embraced as a hero, while Fury is assigned leadership of the newly-formed SHIELD.

>Tom Cruise as Tony Stark / Iron Man.

>>82172720
Wait a minute, I just realized something.
Always Sunny is produced by Fox.
Why the fuck didn't they just make a comedic F4 movie starring the Always Sunny cast? That would've been a million times better than Fant4stic.

>>82172764
They wanted their death, or at least didn't care enough to take it away from Whedon.

>>82171670
>>Wright reportedly wanted a stylized and completely standalone movie, unfitting with the tone and approach of the MCU. Studio revisions to his script, including mandatory cameos by Howard Stark and Peggy Carter, are what drove him to quit.

Wow! that 2 minutes scene at the start of the movie is what drove him to quit? What a fag.

>>82171617
He is notorious for being like that.

>>82172642
>blame Gunn

I will never understand why Riderfags feel that Rich has to be shoved into everything GotG. The actual ongoings only crossed over once or twice. Rich is friends with Drax, Gamora, and Peter, but he has very little to do with the GotG otherwise.

>>82172689
Awful. Im glad that shit wont leak into the comics.

>>82172795

Because Fox, Sony, and everyone else that isn't Marvel Studios, has studied the MCU intensely, seen audiences reacting positively to humourous dialogue and action sequences that toe the line between serious and zany, and thought
>Let's do the complete opposite because we're fuckin' GENIUSES!

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>Iron Man (2003).
Written by Al Gough and Miles Millar. Directed by Nick Cassevetes.

Weapons manufacturer Tony Stark travels to Iraq to unveil his newest creation, the Repulsor Technology, but ends up being captured by terrorists armed with weapons made by his company, Stark Industries, and injured by shrapnel in an explosion. In captivity, he meets another scientist, Ho Yinsen, who embeds a battery-powered electromagnet to his chest to prevent the shrapnel from reaching his heart. Together, they plan an escape by building a rudimentary suit of armor, and Yinsen sacrifices himself so Stark can make it to the desert, where he is rescued by his old friend, United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel James Rhodes.

In New York City, Stark reunites with his bodyguard Bethany Cabe, with whom he develops a romantic relationship, and uncovers evidence that his father, Howard Stark, is selling weapons to terrorists. With the shadowy espionage agency S.H.I.E.L.D. on his trail to weaponize his technology, Stark sets out to build a refined combat armor for himself, the Iron Man unit, and, alongside Rhodes and Cabe, destroy all Stark weapons caches across the Middle East, which puts him on a collision course with the government and his own corrupt father, who reverse-engineers Stark's technology to build a heavily-armed suit for himself, the War Machine. When Cabe is caught in the crossfire and killed, Tony and Howard have a final battle with devastating consequences, with Howard ultimately causing his own demisse. Having proven his worth to Fury, Stark is allowed to continue operating and destroying his weapons across the world with Rhodes' aide.

>Tom Cruise as Tony Stark / Iron Man.
>Famke Jenssen as Bethany Cabe.
>Jamie Foxx as James Rhodes.
>George Clooney as Nick Fury.

>>82171972
YOu got some screencaps? Links to the archive?

I could go for some butthurt.

>>82171848
Supernatural has really overstayed. I hope the MCU will consider Ackles though. He already has fans anyway.

>>82172861
>Jamie Foxx
Ayy. Hed be a good Rhodes.

>>82172861
I'd have watched this for Clooney as white Fury

>>82171488
The dumbest thing is, the only reason people shipped it was because he planted the seeds in the first Avengers movie and apparently even wanted them to get together himself.

It's not even a matter of "hurr audiences are brainwashed to believe any interaction between a man and a woman is shipping", look at Winter Soldier for how it's done and Ant-Man for something audiences would've preferred to stay platonic.

>>82170397
>The Hulk would originally decapitate the Abomination with the chain wrapped around his neck. This was changed due to negative reception from test-audiences.

Hulk of murder.

>>82172563
Just because he made good things doesn't mean he won't fuck it up.

George Lucas made the prequels.

Steven Spielberg directed A.I. and The Cristal Skull.

Everything after Zach Snyder's Dawn of the Dead.

Watchowski's made Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolution.

>>82172571
This would've been pretty awesome.
Hopkins makes the character somehow too refined.
Blessed has a kind of gruff, barbaric dignity wild-man about him (at least his appearance)

>>82171087
>Gunn originally didn't want to include Thanos in the movie as mandated by the studio, as he believed it'd cheapen Ronan's role as the main villain. However, it also cheapened Thanos' role as the main villain of the MCU.

>>82172278
I don't know how the MCU keeps winning. I am legit baffled, not shilling. FF versus a literally who, of course you'd expect the first family to win.

>>82171555
Doctor Mantis DOOMbaggan

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>The Incredible Hulk (1999).
Written and directed by Jonathan Hensleight.

Dr. Bruce Banner and his girlfriend, Betty Ross, are scientists employed by her father, General Thaddeus Ross, to create weapons for the United States government. Bruce has anger management issues due to a rough childhood in the hands of his abusive father, Brian Banner, and is conducting genetic experiments on three death row inmates selected by General Ross, splicing their DNA with insect DNA.

The leader of the criminals, Novak, masterminds a riot and, in the chaos, Bruce is caught in the explosion of an experimental gamma bomb and turned into a monstrous green creature known as "The Hulk", which General Ross becomes obsessed with capturing. Aided by Betty, Bruce initially attempts to leave, but is forced to come to terms with the monster within to save New York City when Novak and his men, turned into monsters by the gamma bomb explosion, begin wreaking havoc in the city.

>Gregory Sporleder as Novak, a death row inmate who becomes a fly-like monster.
>Lynn "Red" Williams as Carter, a death row inmate who becomes an ant-like monster.

This is an actual animatronic from what the Hulk would've looked like.

>>82172965
>Tell that to Abomination's decapitated neck

>>82172861
>>82172935
Clooney's attorney(s) got a hold of a copy of Ennis' Fury MAX mini from 2001 and that got their panties into such a bunch they refused the role outright

That also cost the job to Bill Jemas and ended NuMarvel's age of experimentation

>>82172632
Holy shit the plot screams late 90's/early 2000's from every pore.

>>82170434
>Jon Favreau's original plan was to adapt the "Demon in a Bottle" storyline, with Stark descending into alcoholism due to Hammer's machinations to ruin his public image, government pressure to surrender his technology and Pepper finding a new boyfriend, but the studio felt the subject was too dark and persuaded Favreau to change it to a storyline of Stark dying of Palladium poisoning.

Welcome to Obama's Republic of Hitlerstan. Seriously how am I the first one to post this

>>82173059
You're not

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the Mandarin shit is still retarded to me wether you hate him or not

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>Thor (2008).
Directed by Matthew Vaughn.

Thor, God of Thunder, travels to Svartalfheim with his men to acquire weapons from Dwarf-King Ivaldi for Asgard's ongoing war with Jotunheim. They end up being ambushed by the Frost Giants, and Thor's brother Loki learns he is one of them, while Ivaldi decides to forge Thor a hammer in appreciation of Thor's bravery.

Aided by the sorceress Karnilla, Loki discovers that he is the son of Ymir, king of Frost Giants, who was murdered by Odin in a bid to expand Asgard's territory. Infuriated, Loki manipulates Thor into believing that their mentor, Balder, is conspiring to usurp the throne. When Ivaldi arrives to deliver Mjolnir, Thor is overcome by its power and kills Balder, causing Odin to banish him to Midgard, where Thor becomes a slave in a viking village and befriends local farmer Elric and his family. The strain causes Odin to go into Odinsleep, and Loki replaces him as a ruler of Asgard, conspiring with his siblings Thrym and Ram to destroy Asgard. To prevent Thor from retrieving Mjolnir, which has been sent to Earth by Ivaldi, suspicious of Loki's treachery, Loki awakens Malekith, the Dark Elf, and sends him to Midgard to destroy Thor.

Upon learning of Loki's crimes, Thor's lover Lady Sif and the Warriors Three Volstagg, Fandral and Hogun travel to Midgard with help from Sif's father, Heimdall, and help Thor locate Mjolnir, which he retrieves while Elric sacrifices himself to protect him from Malekith. Thor then destroys Malekith and returns to Asgard, challenging Thrym to a battle in Loki's name. Once Thrym is beaten, the Frost Giants retreat and Loki flees to Earth with Karnilla to plan the Ragnarok. Thor earns Odin's forgiveness and welcomes Elric into Vahalla, and declares that Midgard will henceforth be under his protection.

>Daniel Craig as Thor.
>Brian Blessed as Odin.

>>82172431
But I want Zachary Levi to get a job again too. tfw he's not married to Rapunzel

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>Black Widow (2004).
Written by David Hayter.

During the Cold War, Natasha Romanoff, the adoptive daughter of KGB operative Ivan Petrovich, is conscripted to the Red Room by Ivan's superior, Sergei Konslov, and genetically enhanced to become a supersoldier. Blaming Ivan for her predicament, Natasha leaves him and develops a relationship with another Red Room operative, Alexei Shostakov. Once the Cold War ends, the Red Room is decommissioned, and Alexei kills the other operatives on Konslov's behalf, including Ivan, but Natasha manages to escape to the United States.

Years later, Natasha is located by Alexei and his men, and her friend Freddy, an undercover CIA operative, reveals that Konslov is alive and has placed a bounty on her head. Aided by seasoned agent Anton Sweetwater, Natasha travels to Kazakhstan to kill Konslov, who has become a warlord by selling soviet nuclear weapons. However, she is betrayed by Sweetwater, who is killed in the process, and captured by Alexei and Konslov, who plan to reverse-engineer her DNA to create new Black Widows for Freddy, who lied to Natasha in order to lure her into a trap. Ivan, who survived Alexei's attack, returns and sacrifices himself to rescue her. Natasha then rescues Konslov's test subjects, and kills Alexei and Konslov. Freddy bargains to secure that the women captured by Konslov are given new lives in America, and recruits Natasha to become a contract operative for the CIA under his command, and she accepts, embracing the identity of "Black Widow".

>Milla Jovovich as Natasha Romanoff / Black Widow.

>>82171807
>Maggie and Paxton had larger roles. Scott, Maggie and Paxton would be childhood friends, and Scott and Paxton would have always competed for her affections. Paxton would been a petty crook before becoming a policeman, and much less sympathetic towards Scott.
Uggh

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>Deathlok (2004).
Directed by Paul McGuigan.

United States Marine Corps Colonel Luther Manning is injured during the Afghanistan War and captured by a private military company contracted to create weapons for the United States government. He is then assigned to the Deathlok Project and given advanced bionanotechnological implants by Dr. Simon Ryker, a mad scientist obsessed with changing the course of history with his creations. Manning is then programmed to become a black ops operative, always linked to his his board computer, an advanced Artificial Intelligence nicknamed "Puter". However, he longs to regain his humanity.

Upon learning that his employers are also providing weapons for terrorists, Manning goes rogue to take them down and get revenge for his condition. Ryker then spirals into insanity in his efforts to retrieve the technology, and soon sends other subjects of the Deathlok Program to bring Manning to him, dead or alive. Manning will have to rely on his human intelligence to defeat the assassins on his trail and expose the truth.

>Robert Downey Jr. as Dr. Simon Ryker.

>>82172632
>an heroic legacy

>>82172712
>So the one idea joss had that could have made this relationship interesting, and it gets cut?
uh
>She would also trigger his transformation into the Hulk in the final battle by claiming to have lied about her feeling to keep the Hulk under control.
this shit is a cliche as the "no, shoo! go away! I never liked you/was never your friend! [for your own good but I can't say that to your face because plot reasons so I'll crush your soul instead]"

At least the surprise push into the pit was better than that contrived bs trope.

>>82172785

Seems like this synopsis was used for IM2. Except Hammer recruits Whiplash after his failed assassination attempt and the AI is modernized to be drones.

>>82172563
A huge part of that movie was thanks to Simon Pegg and Nick Frost

>>82173102
>David Hayter
HAHA

>>82170322
>The movie was filmed mostly without a script, with actors ad-libbing most of their lines based on a production guideline. Production was so chaotic that both the cast and the producers believed the movie would be a disaster until test-screenings reported surprisingly positive audience reception.

Studios need to let this happen more. Good things often happen when you let an actor take a script and realize it themselves.

>>82172785
I can envisage the shitty cgi and horrendous cruise performance.

The Nick Cage one looks like it would've been more entertaining than this likely borefest.

>>82173191
Never doubt the Cage

>>82173079

Literally no one gives a shit except comic book nerds.

Everyone made the right call. I am ecstatic IM3 made over a billion dollars.

Every time I watch the blu-ray I'll think of you and smile.

>>82173086
That actually sounds kind of interesting, though I'm glad we ended up with Hemsworth and not Craig.

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>>82173102
I can't wait for the billion grossing Black Widow movie written by Kiefer Sutherland.

>>82172134

Funny how he'll do it for the women but we'll never get even a PG13 shot of women in movies he directs. Gotta love those delicious feminist double standards.

>>82171670
>Edgar Wright was originally attached to direct the movie.

>Wright reportedly wanted a stylized and completely standalone movie, unfitting with the tone and approach of the MCU.

I really want to see the movie that would've happened if Wright got his way.

>>82172914
>Supernatural has really overstayed.
Understatement of the fucking century.

>>82173287
a boringer ant man

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>>82170322
>>Early drafts featured the Mandarin as a corrupt Chinese businessman who led the 10 Rings and created the Crimson Dynamo armor to fight Iron Man, before Jon Favreau decided to build up to the character.

This is Gene Khan in the Crimson Dynamo armor, art by Adi Granov.

It was renamed and the helmet was redesigned to become the Iron Monger we all know.

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>>82173102
>Black Widow movie written by Hayter and directed by Kojima
>replace Scarjo with Blunt
Just do it Marvel.

>>82171807
wait actually after reading this I'm not sure it would've been much better

>>82172989
>George Lucas made the prequels.
That implies that he also made good things.
He made one thing good, by accident. The rest were made by others.

>>82173297
I feel kind of tired and mellowed out right now, anon. But you get the gist.

>>82173305
>Crimson Dynamo
>Grey

>>82173287
>I really want to see the movie that would've happened if Wright got his way.

It was basically like most of Wright's other movies, with Pym and Lang as the main duo.

The villain was Cross as "the Nano Warrior"

It would have been a lot lighter and more comedic, like the kind of wordplay and sight-gags Wright is known for.

Hope would have been little more than a cameo.

>>82171848
Even if he leaves the dogrape fetish fandom will follow him.

>>82173349
You're an idiot. Kirshner was his friend and the other guy was his puppet. They were George's movies through and through, he just hates working with actors.

>>82173402
kek

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>>82173365

Chest piece would have been red.

>>82173014
>This is an actual animatronic from what the Hulk would've looked like.
I wonder what happens to all this sort of crap from canned productions?
There must be tonnes of it.
So much effort put into this stuff, only to have it molder away in some warehouse or some shit.

>>82173423
>asian guys armor has slit eyes

God damn, Marvel.

>>82173434
They usually just destroy and recycle it.

>>82171555
Frank would be fucking HERBIE

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>>82173423
Fine, I guess

>>82173445
>That's some nice armor, did your dirty slant-eyed gook children make it in one of your hundreds of slave factories?
Jesus, Favreau.

>>82173102
I'm sure I've seen this bland film before, several times over the years.

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>>82172994

>>82173434
>>82173461

There was still stuff from Burton's Superman a decade later.

They have warehouses full of old props.

Like some of the ghosbuster's old equipment shows up in other movies all the time.

A gun from Alien was used in Wolverine Origins. Stuff never goes to waste.

>>82171087
>>Early drafts featured Bug as a member of the team, but he had to be cut due to copyright issues.
And this is why Bendis wrote him into the Avengers Assemble mini, before dropping him for the actual GoTG book.

And the fuckers still swore over a thousand bibles that MCU/616 synergy wasn't real and just fans overthinking things.

>>82173625
In hindsight, Bendis was pretty forthcoming about being put on a book he didn't care about.

>>82173625
>And the fuckers still swore over a thousand bibles that MCU/616 synergy wasn't real and just fans overthinking things.

It used to be a little more subtle, around All-New Marvel it simply became the norm.

Nebula and the movie-design Chitauri showed up and that was the end of any difference.

>>82173406
Best take that crinkly, plaid clad cock out of your mouth kid.

>>82173305
>>82173423
>Mandarin
>Asian
>Eyes are literally slits

How did they get away with this?

>>82173086
Kinda wish we got this

>>82173625
Avengers Assemble was an MCU "synergy" book from the get go though, no one would deny that. To the point that everyone assumed it wasn't 616 canon and was just some weird MCU tie-in comic.

>>82173402
>the dogrape fetish fandom will follow him.
The what? And it's not like Supernatural fans aren't fans of the MCU already anyway.

>>82173423
>Even the helmet has oriental eyes and an oriental hairline

Fuck me, thats bad.

>>82173305
>>82173423
Wow thats bad.

>>82173772
Probably means A/B/O. Supernatural RPF fans invented that shit and now it's showing up in fandoms as far away as fucking Team Fortress and Undertale.

>>82173326
>HA...letting kojima direct a movie.
Guy can't tell a story for shit

>>82173710
Great rebuttal. Thanks for conceding.

>>82173837
>A/B/O. Supernatural RPF fans
Wtf does all this mean?

Dogrape? Supernatural?

Last I remember of the show was that it was the only mildly spoopy show about two brothers traveling around america getting into scooby doo like hijinks with real ghosts.

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>>82173837
> Still have no idea what the hell is going on.
>google it.
What the ABSOLUTE fuck?

>>82173851
>doesn't know how to greentext

get a load of this faggot

>>82171807
It never ceases to surprise me how Wright leaving was the best thing to happen to this movie. I was convinced it was fucked after he walked.

>>82173875
He's right though. GL was, is, and always will be a hack.

>>82173837
>Probably means A/B/O. Supernatural RPF fans invented that shit
I have no idea what this means and I think I don't want to know. I watched Supernatural but I have no idea what its online fans do or discuss.

>>82171807

I still think Wright would've made a superior version.

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>>82173894
>The trope originated in Supernatural fandom with a few very specific AU kink meme prompts for the J2 RPF ship.
>Alpha/Beta/Omega or Alpha/Omega (occasionally Alpha/Beta) is a kink trope where some or all people have defined biological roles based on a hierarchical system, with the terms originating from animal behaviour research. There may be werewolf, knotting, or other animalistic elements involved, or the characters may be otherwise purely human.
>Alphas are generally dominant and able to impregnate Omegas. Male Alphas usually have a knot when aroused.
>Betas are subordinate to Alphas and may or may not be able to impregnate Omegas; in some fanworks Betas aren't present and the trope is known as Alpha/Omega, in others they take the role and functions of Omegas and Omegas aren't present.
>Omegas are generally lowest on the hierarchy (although in some fanworks Omegas are rare and prized). Male Omegas are self-lubricating and have the ability to become pregnant, sometimes referred to as being bred or mated. Lovers may form pair-bonds with a special connection with telepathic or empathetic qualities. Paired Alphas may be jealous and possessive of their mate, while the Omega may become submissive. Omegas and Alphas may go into heat and need to have sex; this may be the only time Omegas are fertile.

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>>82174009
I haven't finished reading but I'm so confused already.

I feel even more bad for Ackles now. He doesn't deserve this.

>>82174009
Jeez. I'm sorry that guy asked.

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>>82174009

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>>82174009
Good Lord it's like tumblr just puked all over /co/!

>>82170613
They're worried about Strucker being minor in Cap 1, so they reduce him to a glorified cameo in AoU? Bang up job, Marvel.

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>>82174047
>There are three types of men, alpha males, beta males, and omega males. Alpha males are like any ordinary guy with the exception of their cocks, they work just like canines (the knot, tons of cum, strong breeders, etc) The beta male, is an ordinary guy without the special cock. Omega males are capable of child bearing and often called bitch males.
No. Your innocence must be destroyed.

>>82173837
>>82174009
Yeah since that shit started up as part of Jensenfic and not Deanfic he's screwed by he pooch no matter where he goes.

>>82174009
>>82174111
And they say girls can't be perverts.

This is some /d/-tier shit.

>>82174132
I feel so sorry for him. You can tell he feels weird with his fans but can't say it.

>>82171273
Honestly after reading all this I like it a little more than before. It's amazing it turned out as well as it did with all that going on

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>>82174009
>Male Omegas are self-lubricating and have the ability to become pregnant, sometimes referred to as being bred or mated.

>>82173926
What is it anon. I'm afraid.

>>82174009
is it bad that this turns me on

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>>82174111
STOP, YOU MADMAN
YOU'LL KILL US ALL

>>82173894
>Supernatural RPF
>real person fic of Supernatural
That's right, people were writing stories not of the character he plays on Supernatural but the real-life Jensen Ackles getting raped and impregnated and loving it.

>>82174009
One of the few times I as legit sorry that I asked for something.

Holy shit what happened to the scooby doo hijinks and the imagine incestuous undertones for fangirls and fanfags to salivate over?

Not for the first time:
>FUCK THIS GAY EARY

>>82174235
Yes because it means you have bad taste in slashfic.

>>82171807
Sounds like shit

>>82174298
>FUCK THIS GAY EARY

>>82174303
I like beastial fucking anon
I can do without the mpreg though

>>82174317
My keyboar is wonky

>>82174298
Eh, I've seen worse things on /d/.

>>82174298
Hey, man, we're all upset, but leave Eary alone. He ain't a bad dude.

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This thread got really fucked up really fucking fast.

>>82171607
Yeah but people are stupid

>>82174458
Last night there was a Civil War thread that devolved into weird MCU pairings.

Some anon posted links to Star-Lord/Rocket fanart. It was pretty hilarious.

>>82172764
What did Quicksilver bring to the table beyond his lame catch phrase?

>>82174565
That was me, and I'm also responsible for the current ABO derail which I'm really sorry for because ABO is shit. Why does this keep happening?

>>82171488
I like family man Hawkeye that we got out of this, but Hulk and Widow is pants-on-head stupid.

>>82174607
Please tell us more about weird shit.

It's disturbingly fascinating and hilarious.

>>82174589
Being quickslav and twin to SW. They play well together. Also the possibilities for kooky quartet and being mentored by Hawkeye and Cap.

>>82174659
Well I could talk about HYDRA Trash Party but for all their weird fetishes they're a remarkably sane and mature group.

>>82174565
>Star-Lord/Rocket
>154 fics on AO3
>39 rated explicit
Oh boy

>>82171807
Weird that so many people went on about Wright being this abused artist with a vision of the perfect Ant-Man movie

In reality, it sounds like a pile of shit we're better off without.

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>>82170613
>Early drafts featured Baron Heinrich Zemo and Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker as high-ranking members of Hydra, but the writers believed they'd be wasted on minor role and should be used later as main antagonists

Wow, Fox and Sony really are squandering the MCU's potential.

>>82174774
If I didn't spend so much time on 4chan, I'd probably be more horrified by this.

>>82170988
>Early drafts featured several flashbacks of Captain America in WWII to explore his friendship with Bucky and his Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, but they were nearly entirely scrapped from the movie.
There's a vid of the early storyboards for this one here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfa-eQzkkcU
RIP Dum Dum
Also I saw another storyboard vid where Strucker was supposed to be the badguy and not Pierce.

>>82173086
I would have loved a more magical Thor with journeys to the dwarf king and such. Thor's trips to Earth are the weakest part of all his movies.

>>82174716
That's what I love about it. Everybody's like "Yeah we know this is fucked up," and chills.

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>>82174774
>prince - Freeform, Alternate Universe - Royalty, Royalty, Master/Slave, Slavery, Alternate Universe - Slavery, Sexual Slavery, Humiliation, Dubious Consent, Rape/Non-con Elements
>Being royalty certainly has its ups and downs—alrighty, it mostly has ups—but there are certainly a lot of disadvantages being a prince of Spartax. Peter Quill could have all the units in the galaxy, and the renoun to command the panties off of any Askavarian maiden, but there just doesn’t seem to be anything in the galaxy to hold his fickle interests. What he needed was something wildly new, something exotic and raw, something that couldn’t be bought with units… well not entirely. And he’s not above sleeping through the galaxy to find it.
>Alternative summery (written by roommate): In a galaxy where Peter Quill rules supreme, and his sex drive rules even supremer, the plucky prince is lead down a harrowing journey only to discover his voracious hunger for concubine flesh can only be satiated by the short, furry body of a genetically mutated raccoon.

>>82170613
>>Early drafts featured Baron Heinrich Zemo and Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker as high-ranking members of Hydra, but the writers believed they'd be wasted on minor role and should be used later as main antagonists.

.....oh yeah main antagonist...

>>82171494
>>In early drafts, the Battle of Sokovia would culminate with the Ultron drones combining to form a skyscrapper-sized Ultron that'd fight all the Avengers at once.
Holy fuck that sounds incredible. Would people have thought that was too weird? I would have loved to see it. When they announced Ultron I knew that the Avengers would just be fighting another army of drones which kinda sucks. I want to see them all fight one stronk person. Hopefully Thanos will do that for them.

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>>82174941
>the plucky prince is lead down a harrowing journey only to discover his voracious hunger for concubine flesh can only be satiated by the short, furry body of a genetically mutated raccoon.
Why is this so funny?

>>82174974
Black Dwarf vs Hulk
Supergiant vs Scarlet Witch
Corvus Glaive vs Vision
Proxima Midnight vs Thor
Ebony Maw vs Doctor Strange

>>82174974
>I want to see them all fight one stronk person

That's funny. That should've bedn Ultron. But I guess Whedon likes to retread on the same thing we've seen before

>>82173086
god thats a clusterfuck of characters

>>82170322
Christ, this would have killed the Marvel MCU.

>>82171670
>>Patrick Wilson was originally cast as Jim Paxton, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts when production was delayed.
I thought he was supposed to be young Pym or something, so I was disappointed that he dropped out. They were going to waste Patrick Wilson on Cassie's STEP-DAD? Lame af

>>82172302
AM I SPOOKY NOW

>>82170873
>>In early drafts, Sif had a larger role and would compete with Jane for Thor's affections, but most of her scenes were cut after Jamie Alexander injured herself on set.
Damn shame.
Still, I like the feel we get from the Thor/Sif/Jane dynamic. It's like Sif doesn't really give a shit about Thor fucking a random mortal. Why would she? In 30 years Jane will be a crone and Sif will still be as young and beautiful as ever. Another 30 years and Jane will be dead. To a God, a mortal lover is about as meaningful as jacking off to some quick porn. Jane can never be a real threat to Sif for Thor's affections because in a blink of an eye she'll be gone forever.

>>82175157
I thought he was playing Cross.

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>>82170553
>Diora Baird auditoned for Sif.

>>82171087
>Jason Momoa was offered the role of Drax, but turned it down
AND NOW YOU'RE AQUAMAN. FUCKING AQUAMAN. FIRE YOUR AGENT.

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>>82175457
*Namor

>>82171494
>>In early drafts, Ultron was directly modeled after Stark's personality and his ideals were a corrupted, extremist version of Stark's own viewpoints about humanity.
I knew it.
That's why Ultron as all quippy.
It should have been clearer that Ultron was Evil Robot Tony.

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>>82173434
Sometimes people will keep or steal them, sometimes they get sold to collectors, sometimes they get destroyed or junked, sometimes they get shoved away in some warehouse or backlot and forgotten until they rot away.

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>>82172992
He has the acting chops as well, although people forget that sometimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKHihAPr2Rc

Kenneth Branagh was Henry V in this as well.

>>82173837
And there are even japanese shows that are suffering, like the Osomatsu-san NSFW community too, it makes me madder too.

>>82175457
He turned it down specifically because he didn't want to cut his hair.

>>82170693
>Jon Favreau was approached to direct the movie, but declined
it's a shame, he's a pretty good director, I'm sure if Marvel didn't push him so hard during Iron man 2 he'd have taken it

>>82175533
>eyebrows
Just noticed. Jesus.
It's perfect

>>82170873
>In early drafts, Malekith was a more sympathetic character, and his backstory included witnessing his family needlessly being slaughtered by Thor's grandfather, Bors, fueling Malekith's hatred of Asgard and his obsession with plunging the Universe into darkness to restore his people.
>In early drafts, Sif had a larger role and would compete with Jane for Thor's affections, but most of her scenes were cut after Jamie Alexander injured herself on set.
>In early drafts, Loki had a minor role, but further revisions expanded his part due to his newfound popularity caused by "The Avengers".
Damnit. Sif fighting with Jane over Thor's affections sounds stupid but I would've liked her and the Warriors Three to get more stuff to actually do.

>>82171680
If they had established that Widow and Hawkeye had a relationship in the past, but he ended it because he wanted kids, how fucking brutal would that have been? Really hammer home the thing with her feeling like she's broken.

>>82171087
>Adam Sandler were approached to voice Rocket before Bradley Cooper was cast.

Dodge a bullet there. Sandler would bring in his toadies and take over the whole movie.

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>>82175636
Just the other day I came across Omegaverse doujinshi of pregnant Joseph Joestar. My mind was aflame.

>>82171807
Wow we dodged a bullet there. Thank god Wright left just because he bitched about one scene.

>>82175533
I think Zach Quinto would actually make a pretty good Namor. He's already got a fanbase and young Leonard Nimoy is obviously out of the question.

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>>82175784
>Jojo
>being touched by that shit

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>82175800
> Wright hailed as auteur.
> Wright leaves, Reed comes in.
> Reed called a hack.
> Reed fixed Wright's wrongs.

>>82171489
I liked it more than the first one
It's a terrible adaptation, but it's still a fun movie (just like GotG)

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>>82175885
Dude, you're using that meme wrong.
It's for promotions only.

>>82175316
> It's like Sif doesn't really give a shit about Thor fucking a random mortal. Why would she? In 30 years Jane will be a crone and Sif will still be as young and beautiful as ever. Another 30 years and Jane will be dead. To a God, a mortal lover is about as meaningful as jacking off to some quick porn

damn, I didn't even think of that

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>>82170553
>>Daniel Craig was the original choice to play Thor, but declined.

marvel HATES Thor doesn't it.

>>82175759
True, but now I want to see Jon Lovitz play The Collector.

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>Zach Braff as Superman in the BvS movie

What changes?

>>82170988
>Michael B. Jordan auditioned for Sam Wilson before Anthony Mackie was cast.
JUST
U
S
T

>>82175915
While Jane pines over Thor, Sif is getting as much cock as she wants back in Asgard while waiting for the stupid Midgard bitch to die.

>>82176020
>he doesnt like Anthony Mackie
You're bananas. Besides, I heard Michael got cast as Johnny Storm for the new Fantastic Four series, so that's a plus

>>82176020
He could show up in Black Panther as someone depending on how his Fox contract works.

>>82176096
>Fox contract
Don't telly me they were serious about a sequal

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>>82170693
>>Whedon originally wanted to use Ultron as the main villain, but was convinced by Marvel to use Loki as originally planned.

So he could kill the franchise in the first phase

>Jon Favreau was approached to direct the movie, but declined,

Which is a damn shame because he's the only MCU director to know how to work more than one hero, even though rest of IM2 was shit.

>Early drafts made Stark into the main character, but further revisions turned the movie into a more effective ensemble.

too bad we never saw that version

>Originally, Thor would use lightning to revive Stark after he falls back from the wormhole

but gave Hulk more screentime because FUCK Thor.

>>82171465
Really though, Howerton would have made a great Reed.

>>82176146
They were at first, but it's been cancelled.

>>82175670
understandable desu

>>82170397
>Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill and Jason Segel were approached to make an appearance as the computer geek, but when they all declined
Glad it went that way, they are unfunny shitstains.

>>82176153
IM2 was great.
>too bad we never saw that version
The main star of Avengers is Hulk.
>but gave Hulk more screentime because FUCK Thor.
Thor scene are great in Avengers.

>>82172329
>who would give a FUCK about a Wire reference?
/tv/
>>82171235
>and flip off Groot when Groot notices him, but Gunn changed it as believed it was "too meta".

How is that meta?

After reading all this it makes me believe these movies only rate high because the media tells people they are good. What WB did wrong was that they did not pay for enough reviews.

>>82172714

If you wanted Iron Man to be Ghost Rider-tier, sure

I actually quite like the first GR movie, despite everything. I'm hoping for All-New Ghost Rider on Netflix with a Cage cameo

>>82176377
like clockwork

>>82171670
>Production was delayed numerous times, and he eventually dropped out due to creative differences with the studio.

I am glad this happened after having watched Scott Pilgrim. Sure the source material was absolute garbage, but the added direction and special effects were pretty terrible too.

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>>82176396
The first one was good, the second one was pic related

>>82171527
they did that and called him ultimo in a civil war tie-in book, it came out last wednesday

>>82173297
>show was bretty gud and had a good series finally at the end of S5
>occasionally pokes fun at the fanfic audience
>still fucking lurching along on S11
>fanfic audience episodes are now JUST episodes where they wonder how it all went wrong

Holy Christ why

>>82176396
>All-New Ghost Rider on Netflix
My nigga. Although, it's supposed to be set in Los Angeles rather than New York.

>>82170553
>Daniel Craig as thor
That would have been awful.

>>82176153
>Which is a damn shame because he's the only MCU director to know how to work more than one hero
Russos soon, fellow fag.

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>>82176540
West Coast Avengers when? Tigra and Wonder Man when? Runaways when?

>>82174216

Go ask on /d/

>>82176543
There's absolutely no possible way he could be worse than fucking hemsworth.

>>82176424
>Casting Celebrities unnecessarily for minor roles for the sake of inflating the budget (BvsS did that too and sucked there too)
>Production notes flatout stating plot, storytelling and pretty much any cinematographic aspect is left aside, abandoned or an after thought.
>Movies are literally nothing but CGI for retarded baby manchildren with their fan boners, and international audiences that understand BIG EXPLOSIONS but not English anyhow

This is literally why these are nothing but shallow flicks, BvsS is no exception but all should fare the same, but much like SW EPVII Disney literally paid every reviewer and critic out there, and audiences for these movies are much too stupid to know good or bad reason why these movies rate so high despite being just better or worse than Man of murder.

TL;DR MCU and the cape genre is cancer and needs to stop.

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>>82173168
>/co/mrade pretending he knows anything about movies
No, they really shouldn't.

That such a hilariously terrible idea, its astounding anything worked. There's a reason why Jeff Bridges seems so off in this movie and its because he can't ad-lib for shit.

By all accounts, Iron Man 1 should have been dogshit. When they tried the same shit with Iron Man 2, thats why it turned out so shit.

>>82176540
> tfw Midnight Sons movie with Strange, Wanda, Blade, GR will never happen.

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>>82176750
Whatever you say anon

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>>82172329
its not like the movie was any good

Omar always makes anything better anyway

>>82176658
Hemsworth can be pretty good in the role it's just that the script never lets him do anything worthwhile. He was pretty fun in the beginning of the first Thor.

>>82176886
Don't how how much difference a good script can make when you have as much charisma and presence as a tree stump.