>is the first troll and the harbringer of eternal autism to

To sell t-shirts

>>82162574
And also be a stepping stone to help develop Dave and Jade

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>>82162533

An anti-climax, which is all Hussie can do anymore.

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why IS Jade so cute?
Just look at this. How can this be so cute.

>>82162533

He's supposed to be the leader of the new troll civilization but it's a good thing we didn't see that and got anime can town instead

>>82162533
jokes
hamsteak is a comedy
karkat was a vehicle for a great many jokes
therefore he served his purpose well, possibly better than any other character

>>82162629
who would win in a fight, a yowie or a bunyip?

>>82162642
>edited out the leg hair

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>>82162642
Jade is too cute for this world.

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karkat has been my favorite since he was introduced and his lack of development is insanely disappointing

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>>82162735

>>82162735
>tfw even after all this time the four kids seem closer than anyone else in Homestuck

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>>82162642
Jade and Jane are insanely adorable.

But Jade moreso because she didn't really have a mopey teen phase that the reader got to see.

>>82162746
He definitely developed, just not in the way that we wanted him to.

cocky angry doofus ==> sad exasperated doofus

Thread, I figured it out.

The kids' victory universe spawns LE, right? Except LE is supposedly undefeatable, right?
So by winning, they lose. And if they lose, LE never happens, therefore they can win, right?

The only way out is if LE is defeatable, but caliborn made himself undefeatable, unless there was some glitch, some rule that acted weirdly, that would defeat him. I was looking forward to knowing what that rule was.

Instead he just loses because the narrative dictates that he has to lose, otherwise the kids can't win and thus create him. It's literally the Hand of God reaching down and admitting "yeah, this story doesn't hold up on it's own, I have to intervene". Which is bad storytelling.

Tell you what, the first 5 acts of homestuck? A fine bit of philosophical fiction. This? Shit.

Also Karkat? Needs to disanger himself, jeez;

>>82162642
Is that Jade not wearing any pants?
That Jade isn't wearing any pants

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A shame pale Kankat never happened.

>>82162846
I dunno
Them just being brother/sister, or as close to it as possible, was good enough. So long as hey get closure together in the end

>>82162868
I actually think that Karkat has a natural tendency to form relationships with others that don't fit any quadrant.

>>82162821
Jade has never worn pants in the comic. At all.

>changelogs for sburb

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>>82162846
it seemed to be headed in that direction, due to the guest artists or not

>>82162814

I THINK the way he actually became unconditionally invulnerable was just by smashing his god-tier clock and absorbing the energy, so there's no way for Paradox Space to decide whether death is Just or Heroic.

Dave's sword is made from the cueball on the counterweight so it's the only thing that can kill him because his sword contains that knowledge.

IIiiii thiiiiiiiink.

But yeah I do remember it being very specifically said LE was only defeatable by 'abusing glitches' and I was looking forward to some huge Problem Sleuth-style chain of events. WELP.

>>82163005
>cueball sword slashes through English
>cueball decides the death is neither Just nor Heroic based on English simply standing there at the time, doing nothing wrong
>LE revives, breaks sword
>wins forever

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Can someone edit this panel by replacing Gamzee with Kanaya. Also, can you remove the blood. off of Karkat's face.

>>82163005
So the glitch is alchemizing and weaponizing component of the game itself, rather than the materials the game gives you. Sort of like a few Castlevania glitches where the player manages to sell the value of their x and y coordinates to the vendor, rather than selling in-game items. I can accept that answer.

>>82162979
The Maryam/Vantas relations were always adorable. Although Kanri is the most bratty of them all and bahaves like any teen would toward his would-be big sister.

>>82162927
didn't the iron lass suit have pants under the skirt?

>>82163076
We never really saw up Jade's dress. unfortunately.
But those would be tights anyway.
Jade is not a pants-wearer.

I've been idly wondering something for a while. We know that Sburb knows from the very start exactly who's going to end up in the final session. Are events specifically manipulated so only those players get the game, or were there a bunch of other people who desperately tried to escape their own imminent destruction, but were doomed to fail from the start?

>>82163076
her dream gown had pants underneath too

>>82162821
Jade just likes to sit in her undies out in the sun sometimes, reflecting on the fact that after so long, she's happy and she's loved.

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>>82163076
I think no.

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>>82163058

>>82163115
Jade's long long legs and tiny tiny arms.

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>>82163130
>perspective

>>82163138
That's some fucked perspective.

>>82163127
Exactly. Porrim was very doting for some reason.

>>82163130
The legs and arms are about the same length....

>>82163130
That panel with the Sufferer, Dolorosa and Troll Mary Magdalene also had some fucked up arms and legs.

Do these counts as pants?

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>>82163145
that's a hallmark of hussie's art

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>>82163196
FORGOT THE IMAGE. FUCK.

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>>82163196
Those don't count as anything
Why are you so determined to prove Jade wore pants
You're given pantless Jade and you want to undo it!

>>82163208
I'm a different anon...

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Praise this dog

>>82163205
Jade really lacked the sass she had in the early acts and when she was talking with Karkat compared to the end.

>>82163204
damn
what hussie could do if he had full creative control of a cartoon

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>>82163271
>year pause after 4 episodes

>>82163269
Jade's slender figure

>>82163271
As long as he has an editor for the writing. And Whistles probably doesn't reflect his current abilities as an artist which according to himself have stagnated.

Would you say it is like riding a bicycle though?

>>82163296
>Jade letting herself go after a couple kids and a life of relaxing and being loved
>Jade moping when she can't fit into her thirteen-year-old 3AM dress anymore

Karkat's only purpose was to be funny, and he served it well until Hussie decided he was better off as Dave's fucktoy

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I just reread Paradox Space as I skimmed through a lot of it at first. Really fucking boring save for 3 or so stories. Two of em are to be continued so I'm wondering when it's gonna resume again. It says you can preorder PS2 in the newsfeed so I'm confused as to whether they're going straight to market with it or updating the site eventually. The former would be pretty shitty. Anyone know?

What do you think will occur in the next Mister 7? Do you think Hussie will do the writing for another comic that ties into the story? Like how LE got his coat or something. That seems like something PS would cover. Any Felt comics would be fucking great actually.

Also everything drawn by Matt Cummings is such hot fucking garbage. Christ.

>>82163269
Jade's hair always kind of looks weird

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>>82163300
>Would you say it is like riding a bicycle though?
oh yeah
i mean it will definitely take some work after simplifying his art process for so long, but he can definitely get it back. plus he's got such a strong sense of composition, color and creativity he just needs to apply them

>>82163350
Hair bananas are pretty weird, yeah

>Towards the end of Homestuck, Tavros becomes much more cooler and cockier, and becomes more like his ancestor, rallying everyone against the common enemy

>Towards the end of Homestuck, Karkat became less cool, more of a pussy and became actually LESS like his ancestor and took a back seat to Vriska who took over the leader role.

FFS, how could one character progress so greatly while the other just regresses so much?

>>82163350
It hasn't been washed or cut in sixteen years

>>82163396
fic where Jade is bathed, groomed, and cleaned up after all these years of misery and aloneness where

>>82163058
He behaves like any teen would towards someone who is repeatedly trying to pester him into a relationship (and invading his personal space) despite him making it very clear that he doesn't want one.

>>82163384
>alpha timeline tavros was put to sleep and was made into a horrible catavros abomination who is also allergic to himself
lmao
he's still a fucking joke
nice try

>Kanaya will never act as a mom to Vriska
>Or offer helpful advice and a shoulder to cry on to Terezi

>>82163384
Because Karkat's only redeeming options are becoming a polycuck, shipping bait, a fucked-up leader or a villain. Holy fuck, what happened to this character.

>>82163407
>Kanaya, Jane, and Roxy styling Jade's hair and making her as pretty as possible

>>82163152

virgo's are a maternal caste

>>82163053
IT'd actually have been really interesting. If it was given the correct amount of focus and the conclusion to it was seen on screen.

Nope. You get your 9 minute videos and no final boss preceded by an entire act of basically fucking nothing but derailing the previous plotlines severely, and you'll be damned pleased about it.

>>82163300
Christ, how long ago was the last time he talked about his own art skill? Has he just gone full Notch and given up on producing anything or has he been doimg art and writing in private all this time and just decided not to publish anything?

>>82163506
When was the last time he talked, period?

>>82163518
Are you saying...
That Hussie didnt write the newspost?

>>82163447
Jade's already as pretty as possible.

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>>82163145
exaggerated perspective is a valid technique

Reminder that all the ghosts are dead forever and none of your favorite characters really got any closure

>>82163300
i forgot to ask, are heels fine for the drawing or barefoot?

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>>82163580
the ending was a big fat 'headcanons go here' so I'm not too fussed. all my favorite post-game fics are valid

>>82163830
Cutting off right before they entered the new universe was one way in which the "ambiguous ending" thing actually worked. It was already established that the heroes were ready, willing, and able to rebuild their societies and enjoy their universe, so leaving the details up to our imaginations would have been fine, and would have fit with Homestuck's coming-of-age theme. Your adventures aren't over after you grow up, and you can never know for sure what the future holds, but if you prepare for it and have friends to help you, things can look pretty bright.

It's all the other ambiguous things that spoil it. Never-before-seen magical effects out of nowhere, magic items with totally unknown functions, massive world-changing events that can only have unprecedented effects... we have no way of knowing what most of that stuff is or does, and we have nothing to go on but wild guesses. We don't even know if they're actually going into the new universe, or if an unexplained and unprecedented event caused their victory door to have an unknown and unguessable different effect instead.

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CASH RULES EVERYTHING AROUND ME

C.R.E.A.M

GET THE MONEY

DOLLER DOLLER BILL YO

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>>82164004
h0lla h0lla get d0llar

>>82164043
Why is Equius sad?

>>82164048
She's watching tv instead of fucking his ass with her swappable dick extension.

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I used concentrated Meme Magic to make Karkat useless and awful because I hated him for being the most popular troll with most screen time.

It was a foolish mistake, I'm sorry.

>>82163986
I just wanted to know who got who pregnant

>>82164062
>Equius complains
>Aradia cuts him off and tells him to shut up
>Equius starts sweating

>>82164004
Joey may have ruined Homestuck forever, but she's cute!

CUTE!

>>82162642
Being cute doesn't excuse being a shit character.

>rereading homestuck
>the shit jewnose cascade art of her

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>>82164086
all the human girls except Rose, who just adopts kids that interest her

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>>82164079
YOU USED YOUR FUCKING MAGIC ON THE WRONG TROLL, ASSHOLE

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>4 beta kids
>12 beta trolls

>4 alpha kids
>12 alpha trolls

>2 cherubs, split between the two versions
>12 + 1 = 13

>>82164004
>When your fanbase asks you what happened to the $2.5 million

>>82163005
to be fair, it was only rumoured, not fact that LE could be killed by glitches

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>>82164164
>>82164120
I didn't kill Homestuck

Homestuck killed Homestuck

Now give me two point two MILLION more DOLLARS, you fucking sluts

>>82164233
I barely have two point two hundred dollars

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>>82164258
GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING MONEY

>>82164318
that money is reserved for buying booze when sex friends come around

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>>82164092

Can't believe Eq got strangled by Ara before the end. And enjoyed that 100%. He probably spent more time with Megidos than any Captor due to being Scratch/LE. Or at least spent more time 'observing'.

>>82163986

I could get away with the ending except that it felt that there was no ramp-up whatsoever. I read it a while back so my memory may be faulty but I remember every other major event (Descend, Cascade, Game Over) started as small consequences or actions built up over several weeks or months, culminating in a big [S] or sequence of pages where things popped the fuck off.

For the ending approaching Collide though the only thing I can remember is endless fucking talking.

EVEN THIS might not have been so bad, because talking is half of what Homestuck is about, but there was no artistry or movement to it. Just huge pesterlogs with the characters not doing ANYTHING while they talk. Just sat around on that lilypad.

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If only he knew

Or maybe, maybe he did.

>>82164570
Eridan lives.

>I wished he was in the story longer
>He would have been OP if anyone took the time to show him how to play the game.
>He was originally destined to defeat LE anyway

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Which three would you kill off first?
Which one of them should survive?

>Karkat
>Innocent guy, but magnet for unluckiness
>suffers constantly and brings suffering to others
>people get only inspired when he gets killed off
>leadership and future depends on his mentality
>attention-whore, but doesn't admit it
>Blood = Good or Bad Thing?

>Vriska
>Huge Bitch
>Otherwise, gets shit done
>fucked-up mentality
>Thief of Light = guaranteed spotlight stealing and attention-whoring
>may also lead the team being killed off with her egoism
>her problem can be solved by John randomly teleporting and punching her face, making her live in constant fear that karma John will hit her

>Gamzee
>What's his deal?
>worships Caliborn, but also worships Calliope as well?
>becomes a murdermachine in doomed timelines
>killed off Equius for LE and Nepeta for Davepeta
>too randumb
>is a bard
>is the cloun good or bad
>needs more interaction with Calliope

>Eridan
>Destroyer of Hope
>fucked-up mentality for losing all his relationships (can be cured by giving him a human gf)
>is a powerhouse for being able to survive on LoWaA for weeks
>is able to hurt LE and Caliborn

>>82164594
Cronus was destined to defeat LE first

it's a shame the deal with hope players never intersected with Dave's issues, because Cronus and Eridan show that you absolutely are allowed to tell fate to fuck off, and it just finds the next suitable candidate

>>82164570
Kill gamzee. He was an okay schtick character turned into a shitty scarefest turned into an overstayed shitty joke.

At least vriska has a lot to do with the story. would have been best if she didn't get retconned back into the main fray.

Karkat didn't do enough to warrant annihilation, and he's funny at least.

Eridan had potential but our prince's time was cut short. Then again, he could have just ended up becoming another gamzee so maybe that's a good thing.

>>82164599
>Eridan

Just because I like the others and really don't care if he exists or not

>>82164624
I'm pretty sure how psx works with timelines and all any case of not doing what you are fated to do is just you being fucked with by the universe

>>82164599
Karkats is kinda a obnoxious person

the rest are unrepentant murderers

>>82163037
>This scene
That was the last time I ever legit liked Gamzee as a character. I was seriously hoping he'd change for the better, but in the long run he just became an even bigger asshole. It's sad.

Did anyone ever manage to create a good, non-cringy homestuck "trailer"?

>>82164139
aka wigglers

>>82164599
Eridan lives, Karkat gets a mercy killing so he doesn't have to live through Act 6's bullshit.

>>82164599
SL8Y THE M8LES!!!!!!!!

>>82164820
>slatey the matels

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>>82164543
>When Problem Sleuth is still the best MSPA

>>82165015
Yeah pretty much. That is mesmerizing.

>>82164169
This is the most retarded argument that gets tossed around about Homestuck. It's not real life, it's a comic that someone deliberately wrote, and putting shit in just to ignore it is the sign of a hack

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Is Hussie okay?

>>82165551
I hope

>>82165551
Fake. Not nearly enough likes

>>82165551
andrew hasn't tweeted anything since April 12th

>>82162642
I want to get knotted by Jade

>>82162846
i always imagined Moirails were stand ins for a sibling relationship since the trolls don't really have brothers or sisters
Equius and Nepeta are like sibblings
when Eridan and Kanaya were paled by Feferi and Vriska they were pretty much put in the super friendzone (there's really nothing worse than being the "brother/sister" to someone you want to bang)
and Karkat and Gamzee could be like brothers if Hussie wasn't a hack and forgot they were even moirails

I want to be victimized physically after Roxy dies in a videogame and has no one else to take it out on

>Karkat told to be troll jesus of his people and will go on to do great things
>Nothing ever happens with it
>Kanaya finds out she's apart of some vampires no one knows about
>Nothing ever happens with it
>Aradia constantly talks about death and enjoying being alive with Sollux
>Nothing ever happens with it
Why even introduce the trolls in the first place?

>>82166272
because you have to introduce Vriska

>>82166321
Then why not just introduce Vriska?
"Yo hey I've been talking to you through time and I was in a session but all others died and im the lone survivor"
Then just do Hivebent and show everyone else dying

>>82166369
because every troll had to play off Vriska in some fashion to tell her how great she is

>Vriska went from one of the most unstable trolls, one they had to kill so she wouldn't get everyone killed who only cares about herself
>to everyone friend, everyone's favorite person, and someone who cares for others
>only because John punched her

>Hey John, remember that time Terezi disappeared and was never seen again?

>who?

>>82166432
GET JOHN TO PUNCH ERIDAN ASAP

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>>82166442

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Can we all agree that Jade is cute and Vriska is sexy?

>>82166514
>mituna appeared in act 7 and sollux didn't

>>82166514
Jade is cute AND sexy

>>82166514
>All those upcoming lewd images of Vriska after act 7
CAN'T WAIT

>>82166578
there are none

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>>82166442
>implying john would forget his hate-crush

>we will never see dave's and jade's wedding

>>82164599
Vriska's only purpose was to troll the reader. She was never meant to add anything good to Homestuck.
In fact, the only thing her character contributed was the faux moral ambiguity Act 5 spent so much time developing, and then that aspect of her was completely dropped during Act 6.

So... kill her off in Act 5. Let her mellow out like (Vriska) did. Don't kill off doomed John and have the two of them hook up, instead adding shitty pedolesbians to the story. There! Fixed.

Eridan has little to no potential. Sorry. You could get him some kind of afterlife arc with dead Tavros as his mentor, maybe?

Gamzee is a weird case. What the hell's going on with the clown? At least answer that. Tell us how much of him was guilty of his crimes and how much of him was a victim of Lil' Cal mind control. Then you can cut him in half. Maybe show us what he's really like when he's not under mind control nor sopor.

Karkat could have been good. He doesn't need some sort of grandiose role to be important, just make him earn respect as the team's psychologist and 'good advice guy' rather than a leader or fighter, and bam, he can live without being a total joke.

>>82164718
I remember this one being pretty OK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzXXk2xKWuc

>>82166640
>We will never see Vriska and Hussie getting married

>>82166272
>>82166416
yeah this, pretty much. all the trolls existed pretty much only to be contrasted and compared with vriska.
except the one or two who existed to be paired up with the kids at the end.

>>82166432
>vriska went from one of the most unstable trolls, one they had to kill so she wouldn't get everyone killed who only cares about herself
>to the exact same kind of bully, just one who didn't murder people she didn't like
>and somehow thanks to that everyone tolerates, everyone begrudgingly listens to, and everyone ignores the bad shit she does
FTFY
it's just as bad, but more accurate in my opinion.

>>82166578
it's been over a week man
it's over

I want Vriska gone by next thread. Do you hear me, Anon? GONE! Or you're fired!

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Okay, so I haven't read homostuck since, dunno, around when the Beta and Alpha kids meet. Can someone explain what the fuck did Vriska did to kill LE?

>>82166812
> what the fuck did Vriska did to kill LE?
exist
based mary sue

>>82166812

Reminder that this is about escaping the comic: http://wakraya.tumblr.com/post/142892873155/homestuck-meta-theory

>>82166668
>Karkat taking on the role of the group's mentor
This is stupid, we're introduced to him as an idiot herder/motivator. He would be better off as the group's friendleader, John simply didn't work

>>82165015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ioD3KcVSE

>>82166812
She summoned the juju the kids were trapped in and they presumably defeated LE.
Hussie never actually showed the fight, mind you, so we don't exactly know how they killed him, but apparently it happened somehow.

>>82166812
> found Caliborns Juju
> used it
> it somehow ended (not neccasarilly killed) him

>>82166812
She found a deus ex machina holding badass versions of John, Jade, Dave, and Rose from another timeline where they fought Caliborn and were trapped in a juju. Then she freed them and they fucked shit up. Or alternatively, freeing them trapped Caliborn in the juju.

That's what's implied anyways.

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>>82166852
i aint reading all that shit

>>82166973
By Caliborn, I mean Lord English.

>>82166947
And that's the reason I buy into the "meta theory". Instead of imagining missing parts, it uses parts directly in the comic (like it's meta capabillities with Johns arm)

>>82166985
It basically means that the characters are self aware and they used the newly born universe to escape the comic with just about the entire cast, plot be damned.

AKA: It's a meta theory.

Really, the worst thing to happen to Homestuck was pushing aside Jack Noir as the main antagonist for Lord English.

>>82167035
pretty much yeah

>>82166973
>Juju summons a Sburb house-shaped portal
>Lord English is sucked in and becomes literally Homestuck

Bravo Hussie
R
A
V
O

>>82167058
the kids have been homestuck since the masterpiece for like a year and a half now

>>82167050
>>82167035
Lord English would've worked if he stayed more of a Sauron-type character who worked through intermediaries, a formless, shapeless abomination.

>>82167033
Aka it's bullshit

>>82167111
lord english should have stayed as a force to be dealt with by slick completely separate from the main cast

bec and slick should have swapped places, bec being practically obliterated while slick is wounded pretty bad, but assumed to have lived.

this would make me 75% more okay with the ending honestly

>>82167073
Even IF. How would they be able to do shit against him, if young Caliborn already beat the shit out of them? Remember that he basically played with all 8 until Jake hopesploded

>>82167160
muh ultimate self

>>82164718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InzzS_Sf3fw
this one sucks at first but it picks up when the beetlejuice theme starts playing

>>82167135
Or if Slick and the main cast doing separate things in their own times lines ended up taking him down.

Like the kids doing something metaphysical with dreambubbles and horror terrors or some shit and defeating the Condence destroys his source of power, and then Slick destroys his physical avatar back in his own timeline. Something like that.

>>82167168
maybe when they all come out they have retcon powers like john did, and pretty much decimate LE through the power of 4 glitchkids

>>82166668
>trolling the reader
>not adding something good

>>82167033
Who states they are self aware? The Juju is clearly messing with the comic as an entity and the Red house changes it's color (unlike the troll door) and turns around

>>82167112
>I skipped Act 1

>>82166812
IDK when exactly you stopped reading so here's a comprehensive explanation.

Dead Vriska found a magic box with a magic house thingy called a juju. The juju gave John the power to retcon things. You probably remember this. Dead Vriska kept the magic box.

Everyone was killed off in a sudden and jarring manner. John and Roxy were the only survivors. Terezi gave John instructions before she died.
John traveled back to [S] Flip and punched Vriska so Terezi didn't kill her. This created a new alpha timeline where Vriska lived, fixing everyone's problems (she was shown to have alienated them too, but this was never brought up again).

Kids from either timeline (we don't know which) traveled to Caliborn's session using John's new magic powers. Caliborn had the magic box at the time and he trapped John, Jade, Dave and Rose in it. We don't know what happened to the Alpha kids after that.
Living Vriska traveled to the dream bubbles, humiliated dead Vriska, and took the magic box. She found dead Tavros with an army of ghosts he had brought together.

Lord English went to fight the army of ghosts. Vriska opened the magic box where John, Jade, Rose and Dave from whatever timeline were trapped, and some form of magic rushed towards LE as a result.
An alternate version of Calliope used magic to turn the Green Sun into a big black hole in the middle of the dream bubbles. People speculate the juju magic sent Lord English into the black hole, but we don't actually know what happened to LE after the juju magic was released. Maybe he was trapped in the magic box.

Cut to the kids entering the end door and a flashforward to them chilling in the new universe. The end.
That's all.

>>82167244
man, for what felt like such a little amount of updates it sure did bring a lot of bullshit to the table.

nice comprehensive explanation though, cheers.

post 60fps homestuck AMVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNzM9csBfrk

>>82167329
>AMVs

>>82167244
>Kids from either timeline (we don't know which) traveled to Caliborn's session using John's new magic powers.

The thing that's confusing is every john was killed by typhus except our john with the retcon crap. So it shouldn't be possible to have a full group of the kids past the meteor trip. I guess john could have offscreen retconned back to fight him and we just weren't shown? But Caliborn says the teens he fought looked like they had been planning for a long time and all that so did they just leave then come back? Why would they need to?

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>Jade cucks Karkat by having non-stop sex with Dave
>Karkat tries to contact Kanaya out of sheer desperation and being sad and lonely
>she isn't home and went on a world trip with Rose
>he tries to hang out with Terezi
>but after two days, Vriska is back
>she wants her reward by having Karkat suck her dick while Terezi watches
>he refuses, but Vriska forces her dick through his mouth, throat-fucking him while he is crying
>she proceeds to cum and inflate his stomach with her blueberry genetic material
>Karkat cumming through his pants and staining them red, his mind already gone in an orgasmic state, despite being abused
>Terezi and Vriska then go outside and play some FLARP campaigns together

I love the Hussie approved epilogue!

>>82167206
>>82167135
Act Six should've been each group of heroes fighting a different representative of English, like the Handmaiden, Gamzee, the Felt, DD, and culminating with them coming together to hit the Condence, and not the hot shit retcon doomed timeline mess that it actually was.

And Lord English/Scratch should've sent the Handmaiden to snatch up Eridan to use him as another pawn. He had the makings of a good minor villain.

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and you did not put it as a spoiler WHYYY?????

>>82167468
spoiler what?

>>82167451
BlackRom VrisKat is the best ship

You heard it here

>>82167451
> "cucks"

stopped reading at that point. kill yourself

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You guys... I think there are actually two epilogue planets. The new universe would have created its own livable planet on the other side of that door, but Jade brought a re-fertilized Earth too.

It's probably where the living trolls who weren't trying to have sex with humans went. It's a new troll planet.

>>82167434
it's okay if they're 60fps
it's okay to like AMVs if they're 60fps

>>82167498
He's using cuck in its actual, non-ironic meme meaning though

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>>82167451
>tfw no spinoff comic about the kids traveling the earth, discovering new life and remnants of the world they left behind

>>82167501
How do we know they get a planet? The alpha sessions skaia never prototyped.

>>82167501
There's nothing to suggest the game creates a post-game planet for the players

>>82167515
He's fucking Dave though.

Davekat is canon.

>>82167515
He's still using the word "cucks", though.

>CCG banned FAG from responding to memo.
>CCG: LATER, FAG.
>CCG: TOO BAD THE ACRONYM WASN'T "HAG" INSTEAD, IT WOULD HAVE SUITED YOU MUCH BETTER.
>CCG: INSTEAD OF THAT NONSENSE WORD

What did Andrew mean by this?

>>82167501
...What?
There are certainly intelligent species living on their own planets somewhere in the new universe. But they're as different from kids as the kids were to trolls. There is no new Alternia, just new post-scratch Earth.

This does raise a good question, though: where do SBURB players end up when they beat a regular session without the luxury of bringing their home planet with them?

>>82167436
Only thing I can think of is they learn they have to fight Caliborn after the end or create a serious paradox. Theres slso been tossed around the idea that the house juju acts like skaia gates duplicating kids. So one version of the cast goes to live happy and the another have to go fight.

>>82167612
homosexuality, thereby faggotry, doesn't exist on alternia

Jade had first guardian powers, and calliope was a master class.

I just want to see a plain boring space player. Don't give me none of that kanaya/porrim shit, that's too boring.

>>82167612
The word "fag" doesn't exist by troll standards. All trolls are bisexual, so calling a homosexual a fag is inconceivable to them.

>>82167612
>TG: i dont know why i believe anything you say im like the grand marshal of gross chumpage
>TG: waving around my faggoty chumpductor baton
what did Hussie mean by this?

>A young man stands in his bedroom.
What does Hussie mean by this?

>The
What was Hussie getting at with this?

Imagine a Homestuck roguelike
Something in the vein of Angband but with SBURB instead of Middle Earth
Assuming you enjoy the genre, would you play it?

>Its hard and nobody understands
What did he meme by this?

>>82167788
Yeah sure. Not like you could do a worse job with the classpects than Hussie.

>>82167788
Id literally play anykinda game about homestuck. Sadly the one were getting doesnt seem to be going good

>>82167810
Or about Homestuck at all.

>>82167788
some girl on the mspaforums was working on one, very much a roguelike in the traditional sense too. was looking pretty good, server client shit was being worked on for multiplayer, but it seems that since the forums went down I have no idea how to find it.

>>82164871
> ==>

What dubs it meme???

>>82167168
What? No he didn't, he instantly sucked up the Beta kids into the juju as soon as they arrived.

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What did he mean by this

Everyone with any actual skills left the fandom before the ending even hit
Its up to us few hateful left to follow in Caliborns footsteps and surprass Hussie

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You know, a Vriska blackrom works for literally every character when you think about it.

>>82167850
Can we get a namedrop for everyone we've lost?

Let's start with the obvious.

Radiation

>>82167826
>>82167850

>>82167868
Except Aradia

>>82167870
UrbanAnchorite aka the person who wrote Serendipity Gospels

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>>82167893
especially aradia

>>82167893
Which is one of the reasons she is so perfect.

>>82167930
She canonically doesnt even care about her after going godtier

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>>82167868
Wait, except characters who are stronger than her and prone to uncontrolled ragefits. Vriska has no capability to make people less angry. John or Equius would just wind up murdering her one day.

"gays were a mistake" - foucault 2016

>>82167947
Aradia has bigger things to worry about, like how she's gonna fit English dick inside her.

>>82163547
Hussie died long ago, didn't you read the comic?

>>82167972
Would death by dick be just or heroic?

who is the most underrated main character and why is it Jake?

>>82167949
>>82167868
Sollux <3< Vriska

>Picture every possibility that is dumb and terrible. Those things are exactly what I am not going to do.
Why did Hussie lie here?

>>82168039
Howw about you try guessing again, bitch

>>82168039
Jake could have been good.
could.

>>82167033
More importantly, it's about how Vriska didn't "win". Just like Caliborn, she loses by being so attached to the story that she can't leave, and is trapped in paradox space forever as The Heroine facing off against The Villain. Everyone gets to leave, except her.

>>82167329
The song is Marina and the Diamonds, right?

What is it with her and Homestuck? They've become entangled in my head because of how many MEPs/AMVs use her songs. Were they just popular at the same time or what.

>>82168121
She can't leave because she's too fat to fit through the door.

>>82168121
Which fits perfectly to this Vriska, who wants to get a key role in the story, while (Vriska) got her happy meet up with (Terezi)

>During epilogue, ARquiusprite finally gets Dave to touch his muscles
What are your feelings on this if it happens?

>>82168168
This all sounds horrible, never attempt creative activity again.

>>82168168
>muh epic karkat moment

fuck off

>>82168121
oh my god, you poor souls are all going to be so RIGHTEOUSLY PISSED when vriska is shown to be alive and happy and unpunished in the epilogue
it'll be a shitstorm for sure

>>82168168
your ideas are shit, anon. sorry. your brain lacks one critical ingredient: a bullet

>>82167870
adamantApoplectic

>>82168160
that's how it goes
it's like linkin park and dbz

>>82168283
Vriska absolutely needs to live because she promised to see Terezi again, who was purposefully missing from the new world vision

that had to be done on purpose

>>82168166
>She can't leave because she's too fat to fit through the door.

Too stacked you mean
>>82166514

>Vriska makes it to the new world

Doesn't they mean they're fucked? She can't be content forever can she?

>>82168405
Those are 8-balls I tell you! Vriska's character only works if she's flat as a board!

>>82168416
the humans are already fucked for letting karkat the cancer into the new world

>>82167930
What was the deal with the wings again

>>82168459
trolls get them because they're bugs

>>82168459
It symbolizes their ascent to an entirely different level of existence since metamorphosis plays a huge role in troll society

Source: Hussie, somewhere

>>82168459
Troll adults have wings rarely. This means all troll god tiers get wings automatically for some reason, just by ascending even though they haven't grown up at all. The same is not true for cherubs because H A C K.

HOL UP

where are vriskas wings in the ending

>>82168416
She'll lock herself in her room and spent the next couple centuries furiously masturbating to the thought of her own greatness.
Then she'll probably get bored and frustrated because there's no major villainy going on anymore and she can't play hero.
Maybe she'll try to make a new villain herself but it's not like there are many ways to power someone up outside of SBURB.
She will live feeling frustrated and incomplete for eternity (or at least until she gets therapy or something). It's no justice, but it's better than nothing.

>>82168459
Trolls get them upon reaching god tier because bug symbolism.
Nitrams presumably get natural ones when they reach a certain age because mutations.
That's all.

>>82168537
adult trolls having wings isn't a given. And we really don't know the circumstances of how a troll gets wings normally.
Adult cherubs having wings is, but explicitly stated it will not happen if a cherub has an unnatural domination like the Cals

>>82168567
They're part of her god tier outfit and she does not like wearing it.

>>82168579
But Alt Calliope's domination was presumably natural, wasn't it? She didn't assassinate dream Alt Caliborn.

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>>82167868
post more Vriska/Jade

>>82168347
I hope Terezi has enough backbone to get the selfish arrogance out of Vriska then after having remembered the memories of her alternate self.

>you will never gather up your friends, dress up like Homestuck characters, then pass a bucket around for everyone to spit in in the middle of a family restaurant

Why even live?

>>82167870
I don't know if you can even still be in the fandom for something you contributed to and are friends with the author of. It's kind of a different level of engagement entirely.

Most of the regular fan artists lost interest, though. Ikimaru is like the only one that was popular back in the day who still does mostly Homestuck art. I think one of the appeals of HS was the constant stream of content. It was hard to lose interest in something that updated every day.

I sometimes wonder what would have happened if Hussie had decided to postpone the Kickstarter until after the comic had finished. How popular it would have gotten or how the story would have differed.

>>82168600
Alt!Calliope wasn't an adult yet, though.

>>82168600
Alt Calliope was not an adult when she died

The Cherub SPECIAL SBURB quirk is access to master classes cuz minmax sessions, not wings

>>82168600
>>82168567

I thought Hussie said that wings were retractable

>>82168601
Between your post and mine we have covered all the Vriska/Jade in existence, anon.

>>82162533
>Manlet
>Useless
>One of the only ones who couldn't reach God Tier
He's basically the Krillin of Homestuck.

>>82168605
"SORRY VR1SK4, BUT MY ONLY M4T3SPR1T 1S JUST1C3! DONT WORRY THOUGH, 1LL B3 YOUR MO1R41L 1NST34D!

NOW G3T 1N TH3 COURT B1TCH!!!!!"

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I GAVE HOMESTUCK

C A N C E R

>>82168682
Krillin at least got toptier pussy

though if Hussie is smart Karkat will hook up with PM

>>82168682
at least Krillin scored a hot bitch and didnt end up as the cuck in three-way relationship

>>82168616
I know this is ironic and all, and this fandom reaches echelons of irony I could only dream of daring to fathom, but sometimes it all just seems a bit unsettling.

would the comic be any different if vriska had a beard

>>82168682
The only ones who reached god tier were Vriska and Aradia. Every other troll who did was an alternate self from a doomed timeline. Which is what an alt Karkat did. In a flash you see him standing next to a Nepeta's dreamself.

>>82168691
They already are mutual moirails though. Officially, practically it's just one sided from TZ because Vriska cannot into healthy relationships.

>>82168711
roll with it

https://youtu.be/yyFXNMVbO5Q

>>82168753
did anyone ever id these guys?

>>82168747
Vriska's redrom is heterosexual, she didn't need a beard.

>>82168682
>Krillin
>ends up as a polycuck or competing against Jade
>even Rose predicted that Karkat won't be happy at Dave being a non-honest asshole who can't tell Jade to fuck off

>>82162533
Man, I really thought Meenah was one of the best trolls when she was introduced, but she ended up being almost as lame as everyone else.

;_;

>>82168747
tumblr seems to take that idea and run with it in some cases

>>82168816
I was sick of the comic when she was introduced, and never really recovered. Act 6 felt like a new start until the intermissions hit.

post your king karkuck images and greentexts

>>82168747
It would be the kismesis of Rose's moustache.

did Homestuck disturb or corrupt you sexually

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HOW'D THIS (the girl on the left)
go from the crazy 8ig 8itch
to everyone's favorite person and leader?

>>82168839
I stuck with it in the hope that the new trolls would actually be cool, but once the novelty wore off there was nothing left.

>>82168887
I was a confused 16 year old, but homestuck somehow made me turn out more hetero.

>>82168887
I use to think Fapping to HS related art was fucking creepy. Mainly because I liked the characters from when they were first introduced. It's like Fapping to your kid man, shits not right.

Then Hussie made the characters like hollow cardboard, so fap town USA over here.

>>82168912
Ironic writing. Or truncated plans. Like, Hussie planned developments for the end he didn't manage to write in time for the set date or whatever.

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>>82168887
The introduction of blackrom gave everyone a bad hatesex fetish.

>>82168912
She isn't everyones favourite person and she's very good at killing things

why do people say that the meteor likes her when the only one that says anything nice is Terezi (weird) and John (dumb)

>>82167972

I think English needs to be worried about how he's going to fit Aradia dick inside him.

So what did Jane bring to the table?

Roxy was cool and cute. Dirk was awful but cool. Jake was dumb as rocks but funny.

Jane was just awful.

>>82168616
That video was legitimately my first experience with the Homestuck fandom.

I wonder why I didn't turn 360 degrees and walk away tight there.

>>82168912
By making everything post retcon an awkward lead up to an ending he wrote years ago.

I hope Caliborn got a happy ending

>>82168912
She didn't: >>82166723

>>82168988
>she's very good at killing things
It's kind of incredible how Hussie used to say Homestuck was not DBZ, and then ended up making Vriska important solely due to her power level (notably, putting Jade and Jane to sleep) and her obsession with increasing it just to beat baddies with a higher power level.
Homestuck seriously became a soulless parody of its former self.

>>82169094
he got to fuck up universes for fun for aeons and then died

So yes

>>82167515
Do memes always forget that being a Cuck is actually a normal part of Troll sexuality? Their sexuality basically goes Love, Bros/Hoes, Hatefuckers and Cuck.

Kanaya is squarely good at being in the Cuck Quadrant. I'm sure there are plenty of trolls that enjoy it and get off to it.

>>82169128
Can I play devil's advocate and just say that it was nice that ONE FUCKING CHARACTER in the comic actually have a shit about getting stronger?

Like Roxy arguably did, but that was an aspect that was lacking in the seven years of this shit

>>82168912
John misused his retcon powers to make his girlfriend the leader.

>>82164599
Kill all four of them.

Except save Karkat for last and then kill him during the final boss battle. That buff is too good.

>>82167792
Hussie grew up highly autistic and in 'special classrooms' with parents that had very high expectations.
Hussie, had a hard life.

>>82169183
>Auspisticism is cuckolding
How did you come to that conclusion?

>>82169043
Jane was supposed to be evil. Terezi and John ruined her story preemptively.

>>82169266
c'mon you and I both know that was going nowhere

>>82168696
*Grabs it*
*stomps on it repeatedly*

>>82168701
>>82168812
Karkat got Dave's boipussy.

He doesn't even have to share sloppy seconds with his dick case Jade's in the front. A Karkuck banging Dave in back and literal furry bitch in front.

What's the problem here?

How old were you when you grew out of the Act 5 meme and recognized the superiority of Acts 1-4 and the Intermission?

>>82169396
>implying karkat doesn't just get put on the cuck cage watching

>>82168753
6 years and this strawmeme video is still the pinnacle of Homestuck
It was all downhill from there

>>82168887
No, 4chan already did that

>>82169264
You have to watch two people you're kind of invested in fucking while mediating on the side. Sounds like cuckolding to me.

>>82169245
evidence seems to suggest that he was more like a pampered white boy actually

>>82169142
>universes
One thing that irks me about LE is that he is originally set up to be a force across multiple sburb sessions, even ones we didn't see. But from what we know about him, it seems that the only one he could fucked with is the troll session.

The world of Homestuck really ended up feeling small by the end.

>>82169432
>>82169396
>Implying Dave wants to be with a disgusting degenerate womanlet who smells like wet dog
Dave is NOT a furry. He's not into YIFFING you dickbrats.

man why are all these post sburb fics just crappy dramas, where's the cool worldbuilding and shit

> THE KIDS LIVE THEIR NEW UNIVERSE BUT THEY LOST THEIR POWERS :(

fuck this shit, can nobody write gods?

>>82169188
Caliborn also did that, though.
And Caliborn is the villain while Vriska rushing through the game used to be presented as completely against the purpose of SBURB (e.g. she killed her Denizen and ignored any advice and important plot choice she could have given, paid no attention to the lore, etc.).
The death of her entire team at the hands of Bec Noir in the alternate S Flip timeline was the culmination of these warnings: a brutal lesson about how meaningless it is to be powerful when all your friends are dead and it's ***your fault, you stupid munchkin***.
But then late Act 6 shat on all of that and went full DBZ. Don't get me wrong, I love fraymotifs and magic weapons, but IMO characters in Homestuck solving all their problems thanks to them was lame as fuck.

>>82168978
A GOOD hatesex fetish actually.

>>82169496
>Andrew "My Teachers used to think I was kind of retarded" Hussie
A pampered white boy but a very special one nonetheless.

>>82169490
I always thought that quadrant was more along the lines of Marriage/Relationship counselor. You mediate between these two fucked up trolls before and after they bang.

>>82169517
>it seems that the only one he could fucked with is the troll session.

anywhere cal can be summoned is applicable

we just saw alternia because gamzee was the leading cause of the creation of his god

>>82169490
No, you're preventing them from fucking. It's somewhere between chaperoning and therapy.

>>82168887
i found out i liked to fantasize about vriska being violently overpowered, raped and murdered
i still feel terrible thinking about it

>>82169579
My dick was ready to go until the murder part.

Why ruin it? :^/

>>82169525
Caliborn did it, but he was playing it wrong just like Vriska did, both grew powerful through pure manipulation and ASSHOLE DETERMINATION

John got more powerful too if the Jack fight, which was great, was anything to go by, and Roxy was the only one to really train her powers in the other session

So you get two villain growths and two heroic growths

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what did Hussie mean by this?

>Karkat is going to do something cool!
>J-Just watch!

Yeah, he is going to take Dave's dick. LOL

>>82169525
Was Caliborn the TRUE hero of the story?

>>82169523
Probably not. Though I'd toy with the idea that there's some extra-dimensional shit out there wrecking universes (Thus the existence of Sburb constantly creating new universes to stay ahead of it) and that God Tiers actually exist to protect said universe until Sburb can propagate itself. First Guardians act as, like, a second line of defense after the players that made the universe.

>>82169579
[In time. Every dark pocket would be filled]

>>82169665
Caliborn seemed to me like he was playing his session correctly. He talked to his denizen, accepted quests, worked hard to complete all of them, won and killed his denizen and received his reward of immortality.
His session was massively fuck from the get go, though.

>>82169571
It is but those two statements don't follow.
What kind of shitty sundae school therapist trys to fix a relationship by telling partners not to fuck?

The kids repopulated the world with chess people because they didn't want to outlive their kids due to their immolation keeping them alive

>>82169670
black power one lill?

>>82169670
he meant he didn't understand how pemdas worked

>>82169672
I wish Hussie would've left us with more options other then
>Dave shags the wet carpet furry
>Dave is gay
>Incest

>>82169521
Dave is a furry though.

>>82169416
I didn't think anyone here ever thought of act 5 as superior

>Hussie trying to turn Homestuck into some multimedia franchise despite hating it because he'll never top its popularity
Being Hussie is suffering.

>>82169739
Yeah, he did his session right, but he cheated how to get in which caused it to create a session ALL DESTINED TO FUCK HIS SHIT UP LATER

moral of the story dont fuck with god programs

>>82169523
Most of the time they just want to write AU!Humanstuck stories where they're leading normal lives without any Sburb or supernatural noise.

So they just make it post!Sburb and ignore it ever happened.

>>82169789
Ironic Jokes =/= Being a furry

>>82169800
Do you think he'll ever escape Homestucks shadow?

>>82169800
artists that always want to one up themselves are infuriating

>>82169857
Not if he keeps pushing it.
The kikestarter was a mistake.
Now he's in this shitty comic for eternity.

>>82169800
homestuck will never even top its own popularity
it's over

>>82169670
black + power - oneb

???

What was the point of retconning Karkat and Terezi's relationship, again?

It looked like they were getting back together before Gamzee went all murder again. Why tease us like that?

>>82170005
oh, it's LACK POWER

I did it guys

>>82169646
hey if you didn't get into as many gross fetishes as i did then i'm happy for you
i'm the anon who posted the vriska rapefic a few threads earlier by the way
you know, the one with tavros, that one doesn't even have murder. maybe you want to check it out