Homestuck

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TIDoMS2 or bust

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Someone mentioned Rose/Mituna like 3 hours ago

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>the epilogue will be shipping shit

Just fuck me up, fampires.

Characters with fucked up arcs:

>Terezi
>Karkat
>Jane (What was her arc anyway?)
>Jack Noir getting away with everything
>Vriska
>Davesprite

Anyone else I forgot?

I just trudged through act 5.1 in my rereading quest.

It was more terrible than I remembered it being but at least it's not that long if you just skip the text of all the trolls that never end up amounting to anything (ie half of them).

Only having a single [S] in the whole thing was inexcusable though.

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Looking at Hussies style in AIDS and whistle makes me sad cause it just feels kinda unique and urban. So different from most of the stuff I see usually

>Hussie never made speedpaints
>or tutorials other than inking and coloring
>can never learn from the old hussmeister

>>82128132
>Jake
All his friends wanted to fuck him.
All his friends treated him as a joke.
If you want to see how he fares without friends, see Beta Jake aka Grandpa

>>82128159
>Only having a single [S] in the whole thing was inexcusable though.
Hussie wanted to get the thing done as quickly as possible, so he didn't want to do that many Flashes.

>>82128214
>Hussie wanted to get the thing done as quickly as possible

Well he failed

>>82128132
>Jane (What was her arc anyway?)
it was a fairly well done 'birth of a villain' arc which got retconned out.

>Jack Noir getting away with everything
>Vriska
if there was any aesop/'meaning' to the ending we got, it was a deliberate commentary on this issue. perceptions of justice/arcs, not avtually meaning anything or applying IRL.

>>82128201
>all his friends treated him as a joke
Citation needed?
Only Jasprose, Tavrosprite and Vriska called him that. And Karkat, but he corrected himself.

>>82128132
>Terezi
>finally becomes independent and gets shit done, but too many guilt feelings fucked her over
>post-retcon goes back to girlfriend character and being Vriska's yes-man

>Karkat
>we learn during Act 5 that he is a joke, he starts self-loathing, stalks Dave and Terezi, lets himself get cucked by Dave and Gamzee, just wants to die, fails to protect his waifu
>post-retcon: is back to his Act 5 personality, no terezi problems, feels useless, becomes delusional for a short moment when Echidna claimed he is the chosen one leader for trollkind, humiliates himself, gets beaten up by a midget and barely defeats him and probably goes back to self-loathing, mentality tied to hanging out with Dave unless Dave spends more time with Jade

>Jane
>just wants to fuck Jake
>has self-image problems
>post-retcon feels guilty for killing Roxy

Unforgivable that Jack gets away with everything, but hopefully WV puts him in Can Town jail for eternity.

>Vriska
>her arc ended in Act 5 Part 2, but Hussie insists on wanting her back in Act 6
>grows up in the dreambubbles mentally and mellows down
>post-retcon her ego got fed so hard, she became stagnant, also story shows us that she didn't grow up at all

>Davesprite
>fucks off the story in Act 6, Hussie remembers that he exists and he becomes Davepeta and talks about ULTIMATE SELF
>also he died on his way to his homeplanet in act 7

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I hope we will still have cosplayers

Just picked this series up again and finished it, starting from about ~9000

Personally, I'll take 500 frames that rush the plot to the finish over an Act 6 that took years too long anyday. Sure there are probably plotholes aplenty, but at this point 1.) I no longer fucking notice and 2.) at least the plot doesn't waste my time if it's going too fast instead of too slow.

7/10, pretty good. The only thing that made me mad was Vriska, fuck her.

>>82128745
>and they all fuck Jade and Jake while Karkat watches

Do you think Karkat cries when he's made to watch Dave and Jade fuck, knowing he was too much of a failure to win the Davebowl?

>>82129420
>implying he won't become a polycuck
>implying he wants to become a leader in his current state

Remember, years ago, when people expected Karkat to be upset from Davejade because he wanted to be with Jade?

So would a Page of Mind start off autistic?

>>82129646
All pages are autistic.

>>82129646
Mind has less to do with your mind than you think.

>>82129636
Here's how it could work out:
Present Karkat <3< Jade <3 Dave <> Karkat
and
Jade o3< Past Karkat, Future Karkat

All four quadrants are filled.

>>82129672
Why the fuck should Karkat start hating on Jade?

And why should she give a shit about troll romance?

>>82129672
Jokes on you, it's actually:

Dave <3 Karkat
Dave <3< Karkat
Dave <> Karkat
Jade o3< Dave, Karkat

>>82128132
Slick deserved better ;_;

>>82128662
being mind controlled isn't having an arc fucktard

I wonder what the old Karkat from Act 5 would think of the new Karkat from the end of Act 6.

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Question

and I might of looked this over

It's about [S] Game Over.


Why didn't they kill Gamzee earlier again? And why was Captain spider glasses murderboning?

>>82129809
>Why didn't they kill Gamzee earlier again?
He is unkillable because he's a clown. The Game Over timeline might be the only one where he actually dies.

>And why was Captain spider glasses murderboning?
I assume your talking about Aranea?
She thought she could take a doomed timeline and somehow make it into the main timeline with Light powers. She also wanted to essentially be a god in that timeline, shaping it into whatever form she wished.

>>82129769
old karkat couldn't even stand karkat from 5 mins later
he'd probably kill end of act 6 karkat

>>82129670
We need a "Mind has nothing to do with thinking" comic with all the times Terezi was retarded

>>82129875
>She thought she could take a doomed timeline and somehow make it into the main timeline
She was /kinda/ right

Master Onion can be Knight of Mind?

>>82129713
Not the anon you're talking to, but Jane was still present under the mind-controlled evil!Jane.
Her crockertier transformation shifted her allegiance towards )(IC, but it also brought her repressed feelings to the surface (among other things, how her low self-esteem manifests in a thirst for power and control).

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>Karkat gets to watch Dave/Jade play out
>Just like how I convinced a Dave/Jade ERP couple to cuck my Karkat

Life, uh, finds a way

>>82130040
>assuming it's not jade that's getting cucked
kek

>>82130120
That's
B O R I N G
O
R
I
N
G

Jade would be too down and hold too much power/influence. That dynamic would never work, pleb.

>>82129875
Thanks dude. I was expecting an "DID YOU EVEN READ" response

>>82130130
Bullshit, Dave can always time freeze her.

>>82130250
>Time
>Stronger than space
>Dave down to freeze Jade and suck off Karkat instead of just cucking him with a human woman.

You're a weird guy. You're probably not even a guy.

>>82130303
No, I can just realize when a character has cocklust and that once they've located a source for it, they are never going back to pussy.
Really, them letting Jade watch is just a nice favor because she's doomed to being alone forever due to being a space player. Just look at Calliope with JohnRoxy. Space is the aspect of third wheels.

>>82129713
the MK wasn't taking direct control, it was obliterating her self-restraint and undermining her decision making. same for grimbark jade. which is why they both got JUST-ed.

LONG LIVE KING KARKAT

Would Aradia and Tavros be better leaders than Karkat?

>>82127826
nice

NICE
you're an awesome drawfriend

guys
ipgd said that davekat is canon, again

i don't know if i can trust her

why is Homestuck so nihilistic

"people don't have arcs"
"justice doesn't real"
"everything that happens is inevitable"

>>82130869
the post she made right before that was about how no one should trust her
so don't

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>>82130869
>authorial intent

>>82130725
How is that even a question? Together they might even make better friendleaders than John himself.
If Team Charge being in charge is your kind of thing, check out the Hemostuck fic series. Especially Pretty Little Windstorm. You won't be disappointed.

>>82130880
It reflects Hussie's life.

here's a thought

dirk/karkat

let it go

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>>82131298
i have a folder for this
its practically empty ;n;

>>82131298
I feel like neither of them would really know how to act around each other
it'd just be kind of awkward

>>82131525
EXACTLY

>>82131511
i have, like, a single picture
but it's a good one
too bad im on my phone
you probably have it, Dirk and all his splinters on the left, flying towards Karkat and his alt selves on ther ight

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>>82131607
i dont
that sounds awesome
get your self to a computer right now
this is all i have

>>82131657
okay brokat is an entirely different beast for entirley different reasons

have you read this http://archiveofourown.org/works/1275523
yes i have that bookmarked on my phone, no don't ask

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>>82131657
i dragged myself out of bed for this
it's worth it

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>>82131657
Just go to mspabooru you lazy fujo.

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>>82131683
my folder is so lacking i had to put the brokat in it
the only other thing in there is this and it could be davekat with an orange colored dave, i just cant tell
and thats amazing, you're more prepared than i for sharing fanfics

>>82131298
Here's a thought:

Karkat/Eternal Loneliness

>>82130426
Kanaya

So did John win the game without shitty drama?

>>82130725
Aradia would have been the natural friendleader except for getting killed before the story even started.

>>82131759
no karkat realizes he doesn't need anyone and learns to be happy with himself

>>82130869
You're still listening to her?

>>82131790
Because that worked so well for Terezi.

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>>82131736
hah i beat you to it

>>82131737
nah that's def dirk, note the glasses
tho maybe it's byrd, the human davesprite from "crash standing", another fantastic fic that i also have bookmarked, as that's conceivably an orange colored dave
http://archiveofourown.org/series/26125

anyway yeah i tend to get overenthusiastic with the fic sharing
no one actually like fics or fanart anymore and it bums me out

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>>82130880
Homestuck is full of morbid implications and depressing morals. They're are buried under layers and layers of candy-sweet bullshit to make us forget about them, but they're here.
If you stop for a moment to think about the fates of doomed selves or minor characters, to think about what Homestuck teaches, you'll find them. And you'll be horrified.
And most of all, you'll be unsettled and upset at the comic for ending on a "happy" note and shoving these implications under the rug.
It's pretty awful.

>>82131889
I've spent the last week reading like 500k+ words worth of fanfiction and you come at me with this bullshit

Granted I'm not into Dirkat.

>>82131857
by all indications it did though? I mean she didn't get to be in the ending but it seems to be better than the alternative, at least

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>>82131725
>>82131736
thank you guys

>>82131889
damn it must be gristmas

>>82131904
>people don't have arcs
>(Vriska) has one
>WELL I CAN'T LET THAT ONE STAND NOW CAN I

>Version are interchangeable
But the hideous abdominal Seizurecoolkidkatgirlboy said otherwise! And that sounded like they will totally be important!


Does someone have that tsunami metaphor of Eridan killing Feferi and Sollux. It always made me laugh.

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>>82131936
oh man
uh
this is awkward
you're truly a diamond in the rough, man, and i appreciate you
whatcha been reading, got any recs?

>>82131970
np

>>82131904
>And most of all, you'll be unsettled and upset at the comic for ending on a "happy" note and shoving these implications under the rug.
Man, fucking this
Based on what we know about the ending, it's actually really fucking dark, but you wouldn't know from the triumphant music swelling and the happy couples smiling

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>>82132002
Part 1

>>82131904
>And most of all, you'll be unsettled and upset at the comic for ending on a "happy" note and shoving these implications under the rug.
Let's not get carried away here, it's really not that important. Although, I suppose the reason I never had a problem with Davepeta's spiel about soul is that I never imagined my body was an important part of who I am, per se. That or I was just the only person who didn't hate him in the first place.

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>>82132033
Part 2

>>82131955
It was implied she got the memory of her alt selves or at least the Game Over one, so that she can fill the feeling of emptiness or incompleteness she had. What exactly that causes was not shown in the end. I mean, basically it should have showed her how horrible her Vriska still is? And to what lengths (´Karkat) went?

>>82132033
>>82132045
Thank

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>>82132054
Part 3

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>>82132078
Last picture I have of this.

>>82132106
>>82132078
>>82132054
>>82132033
god DAMN i love a good metaphor

>>82132015
I mostly read old Daverezi stuff so I don't know if you'd be into it.

So pretty much every "classic" Daverezi fic from 2011ish, The Girl in the Machine, that Underworld series where the patron trolls are not!aztec gods, both strip pokerstucks (they aren't even that good yet here I am fucking reading all of them), Strider's Edge, Vienna Games, Fruity Rumpus Afterlife Roadtrip or whatever it was called (only some of it), some of those Veilstuck fics that are Sollux/Rose focused.

They're all old so you've probably already seen them, I'm just sorta new to fanfiction.

>>82132033
>make it impossible for the entirety of your race to reproduce
gets me every time

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>>82132176
i'm not supes into daverezi but yeah those are all classics
and buddy, "they aren't even that good yet here I am fucking reading all of them" is the motto when HS is over and all we have left is memories

i really enjoyed vienna game but goddamn i need to finish strider's edge
it's like, a crime to not have read it

i just finished reading the one i linked here >>82131889
and hemostuck, myself

>>82132002
...What are you even trying to say?

>>82131955
Terezi fell into a guilt spiral over having almost killed Vriska, and then Vriska fed on Terezi like an emotional vampire until she was nothing but a husk of her former self (remember how quickly she obeyed Vriska when Vriska refused to bring back her friends with the kernelsprites? Old Terezi would have NEVER done that).
Terezi felt awful to the point of considering (Terezi) the real hero, and we don't know if them sharing memories ever did her any good.

>>82132045
>It's not really that important
I dunno. Alternate versions of the heroes are going to remain dead and emotionally stunted kids for eternity. The cast we've been following until Game Over has been killed off and replaced by copies after the retcon -- copies that had never learned as much as them. I think it kind of /IS/ important.
Also, even if you consider doomed copies "not people" (which I'd call wrong, from the perspective of both facts and ethics) you can't pretend the ending is happy or just when non-ghost characters like GCATavros exist. Just because their existence isn't acknowledged doesn't mean they aren't the forgotten victims of heavy collateral damage.

terezi deserves better than vriska

but the homestuck narrative has no room for abuse victims getting good ends i guess

>>82132075
Why would Game Over Terezi think Vriska is any more horrible than Retcon Terezi would? They both knew that she killed Tavros.

>>82132256
I don't really fuck with 100% troll ones but considering my giant collection of tabs has gone from 20+ to 2 I'm probably gonna end up reading them anyways.

Strider's Edge is incredible, it'd ascend past fanfiction if it didn't rely on your knowledge of the source material.

>>82132033
Does anyone have the pic someone drew about this?

I'm at peace with the ending as it stands, I can't really get angry over it. I do have one question though and apologies if this was already addressed somehow:

Why does Caliborn's Masterpiece show the use of John's retcon power? Wasn't retconning so bugfuck insane because it went beyond and superseded the rules of paradox space entirely? Why then can a device obeying those rules (the transmission tower/terminal) predict and show it?

>>82132407
maybe because Caliborn and his planet already existed in the retconned timeline from the beginning

although that's confusing as fuck, and implies that there's no difference between retconning and time travel, because John was predestined to retcon Lord English into existence

god dammit is there even a point

>>82132381
ah, see, i love trolls, and especially really detailed and nuanced, uh, xenosociology is the only word i can think of to use

i've started strider's edge like three times and gotten a little further each time but my god it is so good, even i can tell from that that it's ascendant
i love when fanfiction can do that, just incredible writing on its own

>>82132311
That (Vriska) had one of the biggest arcs and that that might be a reason why we got bad 'ol Vriska back.

>>82132367
If TZ really got all the memories of (TZ), then she might know how she reconciled with her version of Vriska who isn't awful anymore and actually improved. While she is still stuck with a version that hasn't learned anything, is still selfish, and does not understand how mutual relationships work.

Post retcon TZ had no chance to feel guilty over killing her best friend out of necessity for survival, but the fact that she almost did might have lead to her latching onto her even more than she ever did with any of the boys for companionship. So she tends to look past all the wrong things she does even more than she ever did.

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>>82132358
Amen to that. It's sad, but it's the truth, even though people don't see or deny it.
(Tavros) is the only abuse victim in the story to get a 'good' end, as far as I know, and he's a dead ghost whose major accomplishment served as a backdrop for Vriska's triumph.
That alone says enough.

i hope the epilogue is nothing but showing the fridge, with chains broken, on the new planet

it's sitting on a beach

gamzee slowly opens the lid, and looks around, he's battered and has tears still on his face

but he looks around, sees the beautiful ocean, sees the blue sky and the warm safe sun

and he smiles and is happy

that's it

everything else can go fuck itself
davekat, davejade, who cares
LE, i don't give a damn
did vriska survive, i actively don't care

>>82132584
Jake and Roxy had pretty good endings but never really distanced themselves from their abusers

>>82132584
is he the one who danced
his good end was immediately becoming a slave to meenah in exactly the same way
i find it hard to palate

fucking tavros man, i feel for him

the words "vriska's triumph" alone should he enough to tell you that somewhere soemthing went terribly wrong

>>82132660
Who were their abusers?

>>82132643
why do you care about Gamzee though
anyway we know what happened to him after he got out of the fridge so what does it matter

>>82132708
Dirk and Jane, obviously

>>82132683
>fucking tavros man, i feel for him
Honestly, I don't. He was kind of a loser - that was really the whole point of his character. He had many chances and never got to the point of actually stepping up to the plate. Vriska being a terrible person doesn't help me sympathize with him being a failure at all. And I'm pretty much a depressed cripple anyway.

>>82132584
*dead eternal 13 year old

>>82132660
>Jake
Fair point. Though yeah, he and Dirk never worked things out, they just sat there awkwardly and ignored their problems, and, er, eventually ended up playing soccer together, I suppose.
>Roxy
Wait, who abused her? Jane was kind of awful to her but I wouldn't call it abuse -- abuse is a pattern.
Unless you mean Rose, in which case yeah, she still has issues with her mom, if I recall correctly.

>>82132683
I like to think he bowed to Meenah just to spite Vriska, or to have fun pretending to work for the Empress. He's silly like that, and his };D face during the whole thing makes it pretty obvious that he wasn't being completely sincere in his 'submission'.

>>82132777
i guess i have more sympathy for people who even when presented with the oppurtunity to do something for themselves aren't strong enough to take it

i'm basically tavros for better or worse

>>82132816
>I wouldn't call it abuse -- abuse is a pattern.
it's hard to find any kind of pattern in Homestuck because we only see what it shows us
anyway I don't care enough about Jane to go sifting through her pesterlogs to find instances of her being a dick so whatever

i dont really see how dirk was abusive to jake
being in a shitty relationship isn't abuse, is it?

though i can see how all three alphas were shitty to him pretty much constantly, as in, treated him like meat

>>82132965
roxy got better once she was sober but the other two continued to be awful towards him

>>82132965
Dirk was abusive to everyone
He was manipulative and controlling

>Terezi literally changed the universe so she can have her friend back, who blinded her and killed/crippled her other friends

lol hussie nice message

>>82132995
awful in what way though, like, objectifying?

>>82133002
i may have skimmed the alphas section desu

>>82133032
don't you know? stockholm syndrome, crippling self doubt, and emotionally crippling codependence brought on by manipulation IS APPARENTLY A LITERAL SUPERPOWER

maybe hussie is just projecting

>>82132523
It's less that I outright dislike the trolls, it's just that I LOVE the kids. I definitely love the xenosociology aspect.

>>82133210
i'm with you there man
the kids are like, some of the most interesting characters in any media ever, and when good writers get ahold of them, it's really fantastic

>>82133032
>>82133155
It was his last snarky, self-indulgent "fuck you" to the community. You know how he is.

It's a shame though, because previously his little jabs at the fandom only happened in the self-insert bits or during narration, and didn't rely on shitting all over established characters.

>>82133303
i really think you overestimate how much he wants to fuck with his fans

hanlon's razor, man
maybe he's just a shitty writer

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>>82132777
>He had many chances and never got to the point of actually stepping up to the plate.
I understand your opinion, but I disagree with that one claim. Tavros never had second chances, Vriska robbed him of them every step of the way.
She paralyzed him, which was a death sentence and surely didn't help him improve.
She didn't let him do his SBURB quest.
She traumatized him by putting him into a horrifying situation he had little hopes to win (the K8LL M8 fiasco).

Sure, he never contributed anything meaningful pre-death, but that wasn't for a lack of trying.
First of all, he wanted to control Bec into helping defeat Jack. Yet again Vriska had foiled his plan - or at least told him it wouldn't work. (Knowing her, she might have simply wanted to keep Bec Noir all for herself.)
Second, he eventually stood up for himself and decided stopping Vriska was the right thing to do, even if he was scared shitless of her and had zero chances. That was incredibly bold of him. But instead of acknowledging that, Vriska killed him. (It wasn't even self-defense, she wasn't in any actual danger or in a situation where she could feel in danger.)

And when she died, Vriska kept robbing him of opportunities to matter (yes, he didn't want to at first, but we know he changed his mind later). She forced him to play a useless background role in her quest for the juju, and it was only after he finally broke free from her grip that he was able (and willing again) to contribute something to the final battle.

So yeah. I think you're being wrong here.

Anyway, speaking for myself, if he hadn't gathered the ghost army, I'd have still been proud. Characters who can get out of abusive relationships, refuse any actual revenge, and stay true to who they are - are a pretty fucking inspiring. I'd take that kind of relatable, ordinary badassery over dragon-slaying any day. But that's a personal matter, obviously. There's no harm in not caring about some fictional alien. </wall of text>

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>>82133412
>Characters who can get out of abusive relationships, refuse any actual revenge, and stay true to who they are - are a pretty fucking inspiring.
yeah
this
thanks for this wall of text, man
tavros is awesome

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Why did Joey kill Homestuck?

What the fuck is wrong with her?

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> 50000 words in web comic
> zero impact on anything
Half of those words could been used on good trolls like Eridan or Sollux

>>82133412
>But instead of acknowledging that, Vriska killed him. (It wasn't even self-defense, she wasn't in any actual danger or in a situation where she could feel in danger.)
it's worse than that. she had promised him one free shot, then reneged and used it as setup to sneak attack him.

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don't mind me, just best ship coming through

>>82133606
jade/imminent suicide?

>>82132584
Man, to be honest
If GCATavros somehow got his green sun powers back and decided to fuck everything up for everyone I'd cheer on him
If there's anyone who deserves to be mad at the universe then it's that guy, not Karkat and co

Anyone got the comics with Rose being a terrible mom and Roxy being best mom?

>>82128194
Late as fuck, but I really love AIDS.

There's something about the flow of his art and the way his wit shines in the rhyme schemes that really grabs me.

I wonder if he'll ever go back to the old style, now that Homestuck has concluded its primary storyline. Obviously he'll stick with the brand for a while to make sure it's on the right course, but I hope he starts to experiment with his art again.

It's a shame he seems so burnt out. I wish he'd recover soon.

>>82132584
>Tavros' sprite frown is just a upside-down smile

I feel like he's the only character that has this happen, it's so jarring.

>>82133544
He was the guy herding all the cats, he was pretty important. Hussie just can't write.

>>82133783
if you listen closely you can hear the bells in the distance

hussie, phoning it in

>>82133778
>I really love AIDS
This will never not be an unfortunate acronym.

>>82133902
I'm 99.99% sure it's intentional
hussie used have that kind of sense of humor

What if Gamzee was a Horrorterror?

bowman

WHAT IF NEPETA ORBITS MY BULGE?

>>82133958
>>82134112
>>82134114
this trio of posts somehow equates to my experience of homestuck threads as a whole

>>82134173
homestuck threads are achieving peak efficiency
soon we'll be able to fit the entire content of a thread into just the OP

>>82128745
where's adult dave from the alphaverse?

oh I guess that's him in the dress suit. why the fuck is he wearing socks and sandals

>>82134273
>why the fuck is he wearing socks and sandals
Come on, don't tell me alpha Dave wouldn't do that just for ironic purposes.

>>82128745
>original Bro on grill duty
still the best 1973

>there are people who want Tavros to be evil
Seriously? Tavros would never lower himself in that position. Karkat on the other hand...

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I was floating around the idea of doing another sync tube stream last night. Still have a bunch of those movies we had polled up that I could throw up.
Also motorcity.

Would you guys be down for another stream sometime?

>>82134364
Meteor karkat was endearing, if a bit sad. Autist Karkat from late act 6, ehhhh... he was a bit like an insecure sufferer of tourettes.

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>>82134437
I can donate a link to Soul Plane just in case we ever decided to watch a shitty-ass movie.

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>>82134112

>>82134364
tbqh I like the (under-appreciated) evil tavros meme better than the evil karkat meme. have you even /read/ any evil tavros fics? man, done well it's really fucking incredible.
karkat has nothing to be angry about except his own insecurities and that makes him a very unthreatening villain.

>>82134521
I have ghostbusters 1&2, Hook, Never ending story, little monsters, and con-heir. I've never actually seen soul plane despite it being in problem sleuth
or starsky and hutch

>>82134606
I think I got a rip of Starsky and Hutch too, somewhere, that I could upload.

>>82134687
Sure thing. Turns out you can sync tube from Google drive and shitty unpopular video hosting websites that don't care about copyrighted stuff.
Don't trust my Internet to not die during a long stream time

>>82134437
>This was Tavros's greatest achievement
He ended his arc as he lived: hilarious and brave, if ultimately pointless.

>Pages
>Space players
Can we all agree that these characters are terrible?

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Looks like we broke welovefine
wow

>>82134851
>implying any of us engaged in business transactions with welovefine

>>82134851
I'll give Hussie credit, he sure knows how to merchandise.

>>82134873
I think he just licensed the rights to people who will merchandise for him

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>>82133958
>>82134114

>>82134868
I ordered a shirt

a week later it got refunded because they ran out

hussie's going to turn into one of those artists that spends the rest of his life not-so-subtly criticizing his audience for liking that one thing he did, isn't he

>>82134851
>90% of the community designs are unwearable

>>82134851
Whoa, welovefine finally sold an average day's worth of stock. Good for them!

>>82135122
I know right? The only decent ones I've seen have been the one with a bunch of alchemizations, the rose horror terror one, and maybe the strider family crest

>>82135189
>the rose horror terror one
I ordered that one in the sale. I'm a lovecraft buff so it's a win-win

>>82135211
I bought the breath blanket. 30 dollars of freedom

>>82135122
everyone just draws some fanart and puts it on a shirt
nobody actually designs a shirt

>>82135336
Would you vote for Angel's?

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>>82135122
AND THERE IS STILL NO SHIRT WITH JUST THE REGULAR SBURB LOGO
YOU KNOW
THE ONE THING YOU CAN ACTUALLY WEAR IN PUBLIC WITHOUT LOOKING DUMB
THE ONE THING THAT WILL ATTRACT NO ONE'S ATTENTION UNLESS THEY READ HOMESTUCK
I AM STILL FUCKING PISSED ABOUT THIS
REEEEEEEEE

>>82135447
Hell yes

>>82135336
wanna go on there and pick out some of the designs you would consider tolerable?

>>82135456
the greatest injustice

>>82127693
>actually believing this
Homefags really are illiterate.

>>82135447
did she make one?

>>82135456
WORSE YET, THERE ARE NO SHIRTS WITH:
MIDNIGHT CREW
THE FELT
OR THE CHERUBS
OR SKAIA/DERSE/PROSPIT

>>82134583
>letting an insecure guy become leader of trollkind

What could possibly go wrong?

>>82134583
>have you even /read/ any evil tavros fics?

give me recommendations

>>82135456
for a simple one-color logo like that I wouldn't want it to be plastered over such a large area on the shirt

>>82135046
>going to
He is already here

>>82135246
you're the guy with the massive HS collection over the years, right?

you gonna be like one of those guys with a room devoted to their fanaticism? typical pokemon collecter yaknow?

that'd be pretty cool if hiveswap is actually good and saves the franchise

>>82135705
hiveswap won't be good
I can already tell from the characters and setting

>>82135743
>implying Hiveswap won't be goty when Hussie announces Vriska as final boss

>two characters sitting next to each other
>omg they're canon!!!!!

Why davejadefags are the most cancerous shippers in the multiverse, and jadefags in general the most AIDS-ridden? Jade doing literally nothing during Collide and then getting BTFO was a great affirmation of her uselessness.

>>82135743
hiveswap will be good

it will make me see homestuck as something nice again

let me hope

>>82134849
>not being a page

So you don't want to be the MVP and solo the black king?

>>82135865
by that logic the only characters who did anything in Collide were Dave and Roxy

>>82135743
>characters and setting

I thought those were pretty good. Except for Trizza
its just that they all seem new to making games and the 3D models looked so much better + what pumpkin and Hussie have completely abandoned their fanbase they cant be trusted

>>82135456
>not liking the Beta kids shirts
they are all great and look fine in public

A lot of the god tier shirts would look fine too.

>>82135865
she was a DISTACTION. Jack got distracted which was enough for PM to slice off his arm.

Karkat, on the other hand, defeated a completely harmless leprechaun

>>82135974
>implying any session stays on track long enough to fight the black king

fuck yo alternian session shit

>>82135743
>yfw the epilogue hypes up Hiveswap

Too bad Hussie won't do this shit.

>>82135705
I mean Joey is a good start. Beetroll is already worst girl but there's room to improve.

>>82136034
why wouldn't he? He's probably waiting to release the epilogue so he can promote Hiveswap

>>82136034
Hussie doesn't seem to be doing anything EVER
They've completely withdrawn from the public

>>82136089
>They've
is this some new bait
we gonna be talking about this for the rest of the thread

>hiveswap was originally planned to have nothing to do with the main story of homestuck or trolls
>plot literally revolves around trolls and the playable characters are directly related to John and Jade
>Hiveswap will probably be necessary to play in order to understand all the unanswered questions in the comic and in no way will be enjoyable by anyone that isn't a diehard fan of Homestuck
>Villain is a meme queen

>>82136064
That's actually probably the real reason he didn't have an epilogue lined up. He's waiting until he can announce more Hiveswap shit.

>>82136127
I would have preferred if it was about completely different characters or a direct sequel involving the characters we already know

none of this harleybert OC shit

>>82136006
The 3D models did look a lot better. 3D is harder to develop for but I think it would've looked nice. Homestuck lends itself well to a low poly style anyway so it's not like they'd need to make amazing models.

>>82136121
fuck I meant as in what pumpkin and everyone connected to homestuck

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>>82135865
The way the Becs were fouling up the other fights really wasn't emphasized enough.

>>82136182
Tru
also in terms of nostalgia the 3D reminds me of all those good PS2 game I grew up with while the new style seems like all those "social mmos" like club penguin and the hundred other clones

So what exactly happens if you don't kill the BK before the end of the Reckoning? Do you die, or can you just live the rest of your life in the medium?

Also, I wonder what the standard length of a game is. Is it a month like it was for the trolls, or is it typically much longer?

>>82134851
I got a breath of heir shirt and a john figure

>>82134851
>mothers day

hey mom i got you a naked gamzee shirt

>>82136271
Maybe the universe just can't be created?
Sperm dies after enough time has passed

So is anyone sorta surprised at how much shipping bullshit we got in the end?

Early on in Homestuck it seems like most relationships weren't played on seriously. Even the troll relationships during Act 5 weren't even anything too serious. I mean, look at Equius' love for Robo-Aradia, Eridan trying to find literally ANYONE to love, and Nepeta's shipping chart bullshit and hopeless love for Karkat. The only one that was seemingly played straight was Feferi and Sollux, which was shortly shitted on by Eridan of course.

homestuck turns women into lesbians

>>82136064
So are we staying here for Hiveswap or should we go to /vg/ for Hiveswap General?

>>82135974
>>82136015
I think the real problem is that no session lasts long enough for a Page to reach his full potential.

>>82136408
I think we should move to /vg/
People won't bitch if we make constant generals there

>>82136408
If its only the game then yeah I guess so, were already frowned upon in /co and the threads are getting more and more shitposty.
Maybe we'll reach pause levels of autism again soon and get banned

>>82136408
If we get banned, where would we go? TGchan?

>>82136573
/trash/

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>>82136597
does anyone actually have a problem with that? we could post porn

>>82136597
they need to make a /sfwtrash/ board so that all the good threads don't get pushed off by pony porn

>>82136639
It would get disgusting real quick

>>82136639
/trash/ is truly the paradise of shitty autistic /co/ generals

>>82136639
We have a porn thread on /aco/ and it very rarely offers anything more than constant reposts. Homestuck porn is largely done for on a conceptual level.

>>82136127
>he thinks Trizza is going to be the actual main villain
>not her daddy

WHERE IS MY FUCKING REWRITE?

>>82136851
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
I KNEW HOMESTUCK WAS FULL OF OUTDATED SHITTY REFERENCES
BUT UPDATING THOSE REFERENCES JUST MAKES IT WORSE
FUQAKSKF

>>82136151
It's the name of the sandworms from Dune. A person posting the picture and name was a nearly-universal shitpost tradition in the old HSG threads.

>>82135586
http://archiveofourown.org/works/238612?view_adult=true

>>82136934
did it follow *wwalks into thread
cause you know
wwalks

>>82133412
>>82133456
back in HSG's prime tavros was one of the single most hated characters. i could never fathom it.

*wwalks wwithout rythm*

>>82127693

ongoing reminder

1. lord english's 8-ball eyes would logically render him unbeatable, since if you sink the 8 ball you lose (unless you sink the other balls first, and the felt were just beat up, not killed or thrown into a black hole)

2. none of the glitches or loopholes said to be required to kill lord english were used in his supposed 'defeat'

3. we never see him lose

undeniable conclusion: lord english wins, kills everyone, continues stomping reality to death

I DONT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING!

I have the smutcomic of Jade creatinga wormhole to have sex with Dave and thats all that matters

>>82128214
>Hussie wanted to get the thing done as quickly as possible

then he should have done lots of flashes, since those are the only times in homestuck that the actual plot ever moved forward

>>82136912
?

*wwalks into you pants
yeah, you heard me right
wwhat you gonna do bout that

>>82136202
I miss when Jack used explosions of green fire or even just planet-wrecking red miles. Did the explosions run out?

>>82137019
>Shai'Hulud has nothing to do with Sneezing

>>82136151
Originally it was a "daily dose" the context of which got forgotten and now that's the joke.

>>82137063
>creatinga wormhole to have sex
what like a glory hole

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>>82128132
fucking Rose

she practically just gets a shrug for not doing her planet quest and any value she had as a character was basically reduced to just being Kanaya's fucktoy

Reminder that this fanfic is just like Homestuck, except actually good

https://archiveofourown.org/works/2427119/chapters/5371283

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>>82137168
>ABOR
>TION

are there any good horrorstuck fanfics?

>>82137168
>any value she had as a character was basically reduced to just being Kanaya's fucktoy
Meanwhile, any value Kanaya had as a character was basically reduced to just being Rose's fucktoy

>>82137224
>>82137168
it's like they were made for each other!

why do people act like
>[s]terezi remember
doesn't exist

.................?

Really though wheres the katnep
Im getting concerned

>>82137307
Because Andrew Hussie also acts like
>[s]terezi remember
doesn't exist

>>82137400
xDDD

>>82137307
Nothing relevant happened with it after.

>>82137130
>the context of which got forgotten
If you're talking about HSG, I don't think there was any context. One day someone just started posting it in every thread and about two days later everyone collectively went "hey wait what the fuck is that sandworm doing here"

>>82136271
I assume Skaia is blown to piece and you lose (because you can't make that universe).

>>82136966
>That fic where Tavros literally rapes Vriska
Come on, anon, no.
There was a Grimdark Tavros fic on ff.net (don't judge me): https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8060937/
The writing is mediocre and overdramatic but the concept is good. It just needs better execution.

>>82137307
Because it has literally no impact on the plot.
(Vriska) and the Game Over cast are never heard from again, and we never see Terezi gain anything from it.
It was more or less an excuse for a Scourge Sisters-good-feels slideshow. That's all.

>>82134851
Welp, that's like the fourth or fifth website.

Hivebent is truly grueling on a re-read after Act 7. It had already become something of a chore on re-reads in the past, because you'd have learned by then that portions of it are largely irrelevant due to the trolls involved being killed off or relegated to the background...but after Act 7, it becomes something outright painful. Karkat and Terezi, the most prominent players with the most dialogue, are utterly unrecognizeable from their Act 6 counterparts; they effectively died. Everything their old iterations that have no bearing on the story say is an absolute waste of time, and the massive Karkat-to-Karkat memos that go on for a day each are like a personalized punishment for having anything to do with this comic. It's impossible to work up the motivation to plow through a massive fortress of text spoken by a character who was cast as a main protagonist but ended up being absolutely worthless to the narrative.

And Vriska, of course, is Vriska, and it took me days to finish Hivebent because I didn't want a thing to do with her. Tavros becomes anathema because he is nothing more than Vriska's shadow and chiefly exists to herald her presence. As a consequence, the best trolls on a post-ending reread turn out to be the bit players who were useless from the start, and the ones who end up on the sidelines.

>>82137510
There was though, it's just dull compared to the story of the other guy who took up the legacy of the sandworm and kept posting it in every thread.

>>82137667
> the bit players who were useless from the start

thats what the trolls were always meant to be

>>82137667
I didn't find hivebent hard to get through, but the ONLY shit i've skipped so far are karkat's memos.

Fittingly, they are like cancer to go through. They boil down to "haha time differences and self hate"

Honestly, I might have read them if hussie made past and future stuff colored different. I can't be assed to look at PCG and FCG over and over.

The only good memo shit I can remember is the FAG joke

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>>82137808
not vriska though
vriska was meant to be a main character from the moment andrew came up with her
she is literally the fourth kid

actually, you know... andrew could have given her role to dirk, or something, and deleted the rest of the cast, plus all irrelevant portions, and homestuck would have been much shorter and probably a little better for it

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how do i get my girlfriend to read the comic and turn her into ARADIA

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>>82137667
Now you understand.

>>82138019
you're going to have to kill her

>>82137808
homestuck: it's meant to be shit

what if we obsessed over good media instead can't wait for may 12th

>>82138019
Just ask her if she'd like to read something unique and important to you. Maybe show her PS first if you're into that, too, so she can get a feel for Hussie.

>>82138019
fave part of aradia was her necrophilia i was there were more cute fictional girls like her

>>82138095
probably the best way to go about it
i'll be eating grey pussy in no time guys!! as long as she becomes attached to a good character

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>>82138489
>her favorite character is Jane

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>>82138127
>tfw attracted to creeper girls after reading Homestuck
>the weirder the better

>>82138532
i would cry

The epilogue wouldn't need a hiatus unless it was secretly a continuation of the actual story.

>>82139140
or maybe hussie can't bring himself to give a shit

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I know its been two weeks and all,

but I'm still mad.

Is Homestuck the Mass Effect of webcomics?

Which Homestuck character makes the best guacamole?

>>82139140
He seems to have sworn off drawing his own comic. Organizing the guest art takes time.

>>82139352
Doc.

>>82139240
Can you really blame him for that?

>>82139293
I remember being personally offended and declaring it, alongside others, "the worst ending of all time" and an "offense to writing." It won awards made of and styled after literal shit and got the company declared the worst organization in the world. I don't think anybody has reacted nearly as bad to this.

>>82139388
no but it's disappointing all the same

>>82139388
well yeah

>>82139293
That was way worse than this.

>>82139352
The one most like Jeb Bush.

Tavros, I guess.

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>mfw people were saying LOST had a better ending

>>82139293
I've never played Mass Effect. Can someone explain why the ending was bad?

>>82131781
god i would have loved this.

karkat was always shit

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Will Joey find a way to become powerful without Sburb?

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>people start hating on Karkat and Vriska now

WHY

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>>82139666
Shit wrong file

>>82139579
Here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MlatxLP-xs

>>82139579
>Endings are all extremely similar and non-effectual
>Only three endings, all choices are filtered into a final scene at the end where you literally choose which ending you want, no previous choices matter beyond that final scene for what ending you want
>Game was marketed to have way more endings with varying choices
>Beloved video game series, ME1 and ME2 are considered good to great and then there's ME3
>On top of that, all three endings are shitty
>All three endings are literally color-coded

Let's put it this way. ME3 was so bad, some people sued.

>>82139673
>now

>>82139673
Vriska fucking sucks man

Best part of Homestuck is that one flash where Blind Girl shanks her after looking into the future realizing that Vriska's death is literally the best thing for the universe

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>>82139579
It's been a while, but it was just a complete disaster. It was a long running series, potentially 150+ hours to run play through the three games with lots of characters and decisions to make, and then it had three endings where the only real difference was the color. It had writing and logic so bad it offended the literally retarded. It was as flat and un-satisfying as possible. The company handled it terribly by insulting and stealing from their fans, until they even put in a patch where you can make a rational decision to tell the literal deus ex machina starchild to go fuck himself and you just get killed off and told that the ending happens anyway.

>>82139706
Didn't they rewrite the ending because someone guessed what it was originally going to be?

>>82139673
I like them both, love them both. Vriska's my patron troll. But Vriska's storyline should've ended with her death.

Imagine a universe where [S] R3M3MB3R is heart-warming because it's the first time since she died that we see Vriska, and all the trolls reunite in the dreambubbles for a semi-happy ending, leaving just the 8 kids, Mayor and PM. Maybe Rose could carry on Kanaya's legacy and try to raise the new race of trolls with the matriorb, and something something play the rain to tie it all together.

>>82139579
Synthetic beings were trying to wipe out all organic life in the galaxy to stop organic liife from getting wiped out by synthetic beings. That's the plot.

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>>82139673
>sacrificing 7 years of work to make a "successful troll" character

>>82139908
> the whole comic is bad because vriska told people where to go for the final battle

>>82139774
That was Wolf Among Us.

Maybe ME3 as well, I dunno.

>>82139908
>tfw Karkat is also succesful for trolling us into believing he is a good character and making us read his shitty self-hate memos

>>82139908
this should have been caliborn's role you stupid fucking fish-lipped cracker butterfaced pencil dicked neanderthal motherfucker assfucking, dickshitting, cocksucking, bootlicking son of a whore hussy

>>82135865
>>two characters sitting next to each other
>>omg they're canon!!!!!
The same could be said for DaveKat circa Vriskagram.

>>82139908
VRIKSA IS THE KEY TO ALL OF THIS

SHE'S A FUNNIER CHARACTER THAN WE'VE HAD BEFORE

IF WE COULD ONLY GET HER WORKING....

>>82139908
That's actually pretty cool

>>82139666
>>82139682
She knows BALLET. The trolls won't stand a chance.

>>82140163
Does she? Why?

>>82137667
For me the hardest part to get through was the Meenah walkaround shit. Thankfully the Trickster stuff actually goes by pretty quick on an archival read.

So Homestuck was just one big chess game between two enormous assholes?

>>82136402
Yeah. I know troll romance was a thing in Act 5, but Act 6 seriously kicked up the teen relationship drama to unprecedented levels.

>>82129875
>She thought she could take a doomed timeline

it wasn't a doomed timeline though?

it was just a "bad ending" timeline

it would have led to lord english being created, so it would have worked fine as an alpha timeline, since lord english being created is all the alpha timeline cared about

>>82140284
absolutely nothing kills the pacing quite like the meenah walkarounds

>>82139908
That's a great essay, Hussie, but Vriska still sucks.

>>82140378
>>82140284
Meenahquest is completely optional

>>82136006
>Hussie have completely abandoned their fanbase
What happened with that anyway? He used to run a tumblr and a formspring and all that, and then he just shut everything down.

>>82140026
So nuzzling someone's crotch as they pet you count as "sitting next to each other"?

>>82140415
how the fuck is a new reader supposed to know that?

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>>82138019
i need pictures

picture of AraAra being lewd

>>82140416
Call out culture happened.

You can blame little girls with too much influence on the internet for that.

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>>82137186
>SHIT YES FINALLY A GOOD FANFIC
>it's yet another good fic I've already read

obscure fic suggestions, /hst/?

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>>82140445

>>82140455
ovipositive

>>82140377
It was a doomed timeline once she inserted herself. If she hadn't, it would have led to LE. Since she did, it was broken, until John fixed shit and also brought back Vriska instead of characters whose story hadn't been finished.

>>82140455
fruits of the garden

>>82139908
I thought Vriska was a brilliant character during Act 5 but the novelty wore off in Act 6, or maybe the rest of Act 6 was so shitty that nobody could save it.

>>82140429
Morails at Most.
Fuck you.

>>82140003

that would take away caliborn's role of being the only good character, as well as the only interesting character, as well as the only actual character

>>82140416
Theory 1: he realized how shitty the Homestuck fanbase was, and decided not to waste his time talking to a bunch of teenagers.

Theory 2: He got too busy working on Hiveswap and Homestuck to talk to random assholes on the Internet.

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>>82140257
I don't know, it's canon.

Jade's feet vs Kanaya's fangs vs Terezi's tongue

>>82140552
>as well as the only actual character

>has no character arc or conclusion

lol

So what are you hoping for from the epilogue

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>>82140429
>not lovingly running your fingers through your best friends hair while they rest their head on your lap
what are you, gay?

>>82140594
A boss battle. I *almost* want to expect it since the conclusion actually contained a fair amount of epilogue done out-of-order.

>>82140594
Babies and even more sinking of Davekat

>>82140583
>all the foot fetish art that will come from Joey's strife specibus being shoekind

>>82140584
It's between Fangs and Tongue, and I'm leaning tongue.
Fuck Footfags.

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>>82140594

>>82140509
Vriska was a brilliant character during Act 5, but her arc ended pretty definitively before it was over. She had no reason to appear again.

>>82140679
aaaaaAaaaaaaa

>>82137121
The Bec side of Bec Noir was probably holding him back due to jades constant interventions.

That was jades entire purpose, Bec Noir unleashing his full destructive capabilities would have been catastrophic.

>>82140594
A fucking explanation to the ending.

>>82140594
aradia narrates
we see the felt and the sprites and sollux
vriska is dead
john/roxy

>>82140662
>filthy mouthfag thinks he can talk

what are you going to do, bite me?

>>82140429
>He's never slept in his best friend's lap

>>82140682
>character reappears after her arc is over at the expense of that development being erased

it's actually pretty clever, it's certainly never been done before

>>82140594
More Davejade

>>82140509
People had pointed it out, but if we had never watched EVERYTHING (Vriska) did, and had John stumble into the Logo with Aradia or eventually meet her for a second only, then later somehow see her turn into Punk(Vriska), things would've been much better.
But instead, she's still persistent through act 6 and feels so alive despite being dead, that her coming back isn't a twist at all, and is just boring as hell. Having a different troll around on the meteor, any 1 or 2, not even vriska, could easily have prevented GO.