Was homestuck a mistake?

I'm refraining final judgement until the epilogue.
As it stands right now, it was bad and I can't believe Hussie thinks a TV show would come out of it

>>82055207
COLOSSAL

WASTE

OF TIME

>>82055246
>the epilogue is basically an afterthought

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DUDE ALTERNATE TIMELINES LMAO

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>all the post sburb fics are either davekat stupidity, "lol highschool" bullshit, or just generally terrible

Can't even get satisfaction from that

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Why is caliborn the best character?

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>>82055484
*Second best

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>>82055484
He's not. He's not Spades motherfucking Slick

>>82055427
post more chubby jade

xth for we killed liveblogger

No.
As a serial reader since jailbreak I feel satisfied.
I've actually shown a few coworkers Collide and they said they'll start reading.
╮(╯▽╰)╭

>>82055536
Hussie?

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>the genocide of billions of people and the complete destruction of a planet is never brought up by any of the characters
>hussie handwaves it with "people are more robotic than this earth and abstraction and the kids are isolated and its deep blah blah blah"

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>>82055506

>>82055589
I mean, the best sci fi book of all time has the Earth being destroyed for an inter-galatic bypass at the beginning

I quit reading immediately after Vriska was reconnected back in

what did I miss besides the ending flash?

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Did the giga kill off the tumblr fangirls? It seemed like the FOTM crowd moved on to one punch man and Steven Universe.

>>82055495
>>82055505
Spades Jobbed

>>82055589
And despite all this, Bro is an abuser. I really think that's the worst thing Hussie did. Retroactively ruining an awesome thematic gag.

>>82055666
Worst thing he did was davekat, because it fucked up two great characters at once

>>82055634
>Hitchhiker's guide
>Best sci-fi book of all time
Come on.

>>82055705
It's not even the best satirical British genre parody series, that's Discworld

>>82055705
Go snort adderall and write fifty fucking million prequels to Foundation, Asimov

>>82055637
>FOTM crowd moved on
Well obviously.

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>>82055733
>Discworld
>Better than Hitchhiker's Guide

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So it's confirmed the events of GAME OVER rendered the timeline as doomed and therefore irrelevant. This prompted John to do all the dumb retcon shit and MAKE the new Alpha timeline. But here's my question.

If the timeline we had been following all along had been doomed, what was the true Alpha timeline? John's meta intervening is outside the nature of Paradox Space's nature of inevitability and predestination so of course there would be the actual successful Alpha out there within the many timelines that is natural and not the product of retcon powers, right?

>>82055207
I don't know what to think but all I feel is confusion and depression.

>>82055771
You're damn right it is. The first Hitchhiker's was okay, but the later ones like So Long and Mostly harmless were clearly just Adams struggling to write.
He outright said he didn't like writing novels, and it showed. Pratchett had enthusiasm, and was way more prolific. As well as just plain funnier.
Something tells me you've only ever actually read Hitchhiker's.

>>82055780
it's up to your interpretation:))))))

>>82055771
Adams really isn't as funny as Pratchett. Especially near the end things were lacking.

>>82055666
Satan confirms

And I fucking loved Bro being a giant piece of shit but Dave liking him, and Lil'Cal. It was hilarious

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What did she mean by this?

>>82055840
That Hussie had plans but dropped them

>>82055801
>Im-fucking-plying
There is no reason to read a Discworld Novel that is not starring Rincewind or Death. Moist is a fag and Vimes is Prachett taking himself too seriously.

Hitchhiker's Guide and the Restaurant at the End of the Universe beat the SNOT out of anything Terry's written

And Good Omens is my personal favorite book, mind you. But Terry isn't better than Adams

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>>82055829
Anon, please.

>>82055780
Well if time is time then his intervention meant Alpha was always the non doomed timeline, as John's intervention was predestined.

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>>82055636
>>82055636
Katrkat is now a turbo cuck, doesn't give a shit about his lesser friends, wants to be the next Kanaya clone, Hussie overusing the "haha karkat is worthless and shit" joke

The usual.

>Others
Roxy creates the Matriorb for Kanaya.
Calliope wears the ring of life and gets resurrected and then does nothing.
Terezi got gud without being god tier, but is now a shitty girlfriend character for Vriska instead of Karkat.
Dave talks about his feelings with Dirk about Bro and how he was an abuser
Davesprite merges with Nepetasprite to create Davepeta and they talk about """ULTIMATE SELF"""
Vriska bullies pre-retcon (Vriska) and steals her girlfriend.
(Tavros) gathered an army with the power of friendship and proceeded to own alive Vriska.
Around Act 7, Vriska took over the ghost army anyway and the spotlight for defeating LE.

>>82055890
>hates Moist and Vimes
>thinks their opinion matters

>>82055944
>likes Moist and Vimes
You probably lie to your friends and tell them Weatherwax's books AREN'T boring pieces of shit, lol

>>82055890
I'm sorry but no. Even Restaurant he was running thin on jokes and hadn't much real commentary or cleverness. Night Watch alone makes the Hitchhiker's Series look awful.

And Good Omens wasn't that good. Gaiman's better at comics and it was clear that Pratchett was carrying that novel.

>>82055636
Vriska fixes everything, all of the characters' personal problems get handwaved away (except for Karkat's, whose problems never get resolved) and it fucking sucks

>>82055780
>John's meta intervening is outside the nature of Paradox Space's nature of inevitability and predestination
Nope, not at the highest level. If Caliborn is to be believed there was a terminal on LOCAM that accounted even for the retcon powers.

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>>82055207
>MFW I never got into this drivel
>MFW 1/2 my friends and some number of /co/ kept telling me it was good
>MFW when eventually that shifted to "Its gonna get good"
>MFW that shifted to "Just wait for the finale"
>MFW that shifted to "J-just wait until the epilogue

I realize this is shit post but goddamn has this fanbase been rustling me for years

>>82055977
Are you a /lit/fag by chance? You certainly act like one. Everyone I've known has jerked off Adams and been pretty socially awkward.

>>82055840
Hussie realized what he created was too good for mortal eyes and proceeded to take several precautions to write it out of canon.

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>>82055983
>Good Omens wasn't that good
Kek, get off Prachett's stiff dead dick, Good Omens was a fucking classic. Prachett tempered Gaiman's angst, and Gaiman made Terry actually fucking have pathos for a change

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>>82055977
Compared to what Adams writes, even Equal Rites was good. You can just tell at times the guy was making scenes to get it over with. There's no enthusiasm, there's no real cleverness. After Restaurant he even admitted he was just recycling and taking his cut Doctor Who scripts.

>>82056019
His lips deflated

>>82055634
hg2g couldn't keep my attention

is it an earthbound type thing where it sucks at the beginning but picks up, or is it juts not for me?

>>82056061
Yeah I don't know where the Adams love comes from. It's a good book, but nowhere near the best anything. No amount of smug anime reaction images and shit taste will change that.

>>82056047
I'm curious as to why you actually think Douglas is better than Pratchett.

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>>82056061
Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective was Homestuck before Homestuck. Who cares if he's "recycling", if the material is good it's good, and Dirk Gently knocks it out of the fucking park

So I was right and my friend was the live blogger, should I tell them to keep going even if they got spoiled on a few things?

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>ectobiology level
>"It Ain't Me" starts playing

>>82056176
Who cares your friend probably read the plot on tvtropes anyways. Gullible moron.

>>82056176
it makes the thread more active and on-topic so sure

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>>82055899
Anon, that's the thing, John's retcon powers are outside Paradox Space's jurisdiction so his creation of the Alpha shouldn't be natural. It makes me wonder if Alpha is even the correct word to refer to the timeline he edited. It's more of "Doomed Timeline where we forced success."

>>82055994
I hadn't considered that. So the highest perspective in which events through time occur within Paradox Space would be through the perspective of Caliborn, and every instance of time editing would be predestined and inevitable through his eyes?

So it would be like
Caliborn/LE>House Juju>Paradox Space
in terms of what time shenanigans supersede each other.

>>82056204
They really didn't, is it that hard to believe some people are just more astute than you?

>>82056150
But it really wasn't good, that's kind of the point. After Restaurant he struggled with ideas as much as he struggled with jokes. He didn't want to do more novels, and that was reflected in the quality of them.

>>82056245
What does astuteness have to do with doubting that someone is going into an eight year old webcomic blind?

>>82056283
is she a chameleon

>>82056262
Dirk Gently was fucking incredible. Life the Universe and Everything holds up, and So Long and Thanks For All the Fish is good. Mostly Harmless, yeah, weak compartively.

And no fucking way will I acknowledge And Another Thing, fuck that Irish Piece of Shit

>>82056349
>So Long and Thanks For All the Fish

That's the weakest one by far.

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>>82056341
I was going to make a pun but I forgot what it was going to be

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>>82056373
No u

>>82056295
Is it that hard to believe that maybe they haven't read an 7 year old webcomic that was on hiatus for 3 of those years?

>>82056283
You got one for John?

>>82055207
No. Hussie is bad at endings but the comic was otherwise good.

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>>82056423
Of course not, John's an awful waifu

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>>82056482
You take that back

>>82056466
>Hussie is bad at endings
Someone hasn't read PS

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>>82056482
Yeah but he's a great as fuck husbando. Not that I'd ever hope to be with him. He's not a homosexual.

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>>82056516
Or what motherfucker? Or what?
Jade is the one true waifu, John's not even a close runner up and you know it.

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>>82056566
You come into MY thread
Insult MY waibando

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>>82056566
>Jade is the one true waifu
She is Dave's exclusive property.
Aradia is a better waifu.

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>>82056600
And I'll do again to your face. There's a reason Jade turns gay men straight and John could only get desperate sluts as girlfriends. All the desirability genes went to his sister.

Delusional Jadefriends:

Inheriting the dusty remains of our world after its systematic ruination and desolation in no way validates your tainted, inferior palates.

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BEHOLD, MORTALS

THIS IS MY GIFT TO YOU

ETERNAL
CANCER

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>>82056643
>insulting Roxy
You've gone to far now

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>"Homestuck 2" is an Adult Swim animated short adapted from the old jigsaw muppet baby porn comics

>>82055207

ongoing reminder that lord english wins, kills everybody, and destroys every universe and all of paradox space.

hussie can never show the lord english fight because based lord english wins the fight then viciously murders everybody, everywhere

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So what do you think happened to the other sessions?

>>82055780
No the game overtimeline is the alpha timeline. The kids were all supposed to be dead. John talks about this sometime after getting his retcon powers, his time travel defies normal rules he can make changes that arent suppoaed to be without dooming the timeline

>>82057049
Hussie forgot

>>82057001

calliope black holing the green sun backfires and gives caliborn both time and space powers. he falls into the black hole by choice then takes control of the black hole using it to shatter every universe in its path.

100% canon

>>82057049
thats for us to rp

>>82056539
Problem sleuth didnt reqlly have a plot or characters to speak of. There were only minor variations between the characters especially since all their decisions were player based

>>82057049
Oh man, Dennis was SO wasted
Haha

>>82055602
Thank you so much
Any more?

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>>82057049
Probably the least important stuff ever.

A.K.A. the lives of every other "player" on that map. Entire months, maybe years, or even hours of scared people who were just expecting a fucking video game.

>>82057049
fedorafreak won

i know it in my heart

>>82057049
Fedorafreak ascended to God Tier and bursts out of the Juju to beat the shit out of LE (offscreen)
The others all died

>>82057049
All destined to fail since Karkat fucked the entire universe.

>>82057049
Around 90% of them just died, the rest made their own universes

You receive a copy of Sburb and understand how to play it from this comic. What do you prototype, and how does it affect your session?

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>>82057108
nothing that's really SFW
Plus most people draw Jade as athletic. Maybe married life with Dave and a few kids later she puts on some momweight, but not much otherwise

>>82057232
A doll without arms or eyes seems like the obvious choice.

>>82057232
pre-entry, a cat
post-entry, a dog
i'd just rather not lose either of them to imps

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J O E Y

O

E

Y

>>82057232
a towel

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>>82057269

>>82057232
plush frog

>>82057232
my husbando, twice
and probably end up with a yandere that messes with my session to keep me from ever winning and leaving which is fine cause thats also hot

>>82057232
A giant math book

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>>82057245
I hope the epilogue brings us kids and subsequently tons of parent-tier art of alphas and betas

>>82057232
what would happen if you prototype a copy of sburb?

>>82057232
I prototype a picasso painting, because why the hell not. Make all the enemies look interesting.

>>82057347
But we already know what they look like as adults

>>82057269
Joey's character design seems really forgettable to me
like she breaks that rule about having an identifiable silhouette, compared to the characters from Homestuck

>>82057107
haha yeah dude

who's dennis?

>>82057367
The sprite is a giant middle finger floating in the air, as you quickly realize you just fucked yourself jimbo.

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>>82057395

>>82057232
a chew toy cat with no right arm and a frog toy one of my nieces forgot at my place
GGWP

>>82056239
is there some kind of reference of English's coat colors?

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>>82057384
Yeah in the normal universe

So what is your favourite Nic Cage movie?

>>82057432
>Rating for SBURB
>1.5/5
THE FORESHADOWING WAS THERE ALL ALONG

>>82055840
>john/rose was actually about to be a thing before andrew has a last minute mind change

>>82057232
Probably one of my dogs.
Actually this makes me rhink, have we ever seen a speite prototped with something that wasnt living or himanoid? Like john had a harlequin doll, which is pretty humanoid in shape, and his nanas ashes, jade had her dog and herself, dave had a crow and himswlf, and rose has her car and fwntecle buddy. What would happen if i prototyped a book or waterbotle or lamp or something

>>82057232
A skull then a lava lamp.

>>82057049
All those poor bastards were murdered by meteors.

I played OverseerV2 (yeah yeah, it's shitty), and I would've been FUCKED if I got my copy of the game. Like, how the hell are you supposed to figure out the asinine rules?

>>82057515
Didn't Aradia prototype something like a Frog statue as well as herself?

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Quick!
I need all of the dirk/caliborn art you guys have

>>82057545
is this cropped for sfw
is there anywhere that has this full image below the waist

>>82057502
It's too STRAIGHTforward and not unconventional at all!

Dropped it while watching (on YouTube) episode 3, should i keep going.
Like, it was fun and all but it was painfully complicated and sometimes even boring.

>>82057545
Man, what is the source for the pictures like this one. Forget the lewd factor, they just look really fucking nice.

>>82057502
I'm pretty sure he was just messing with the shippers.

>>82056109
Nah it's more like it has that confusing British humor that most Americlaps just cannot get.

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>>82057568
Her ghost self yeah

>>82057584
can we have a meatyhand dump instead

>>82057568
Still has frog stuff, some sort of living being attributes. Im wondering what happens if you prototype with a completely inanimite object

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>>82057588
Try r34
>>82057608
Kathys Brother Sister, they used to drawfag for us before the pause, got a lot of nice request from her, shes out of Hamstank though

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GIRL I'VE GOT ONE LAST HOPE AND IT'S UP

TO

YOUUUUUUUUUUU

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>>82057652
i guess?
but i need dirk/caliborn if anyone has any

>>82057644
>>82057684
Well I guess a fucking pencil or rock?

If shit like statues can give the "qualities" of a living being, then your list of inanimate objects go down. Shit, a fucking pencil can be construed as having living properties of Trees, ergo alive.

>>82057608
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1089770

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/r/ THIS IS STUPID superimposed over Act 7

>>82057725
That .gif has way too much creep factor for me to be charmed. Was that an edit or in-comic?

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>>82057701
>>82057747
>He's dead, Jim!

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>>82057747
>Glubs homestuck image is file of the month
>mfw

>>82057608
kathys-brothers-sister
shes an artist who used to drawfag for hsg a couple of years ago

>>82057845
Damn that Rose/Tentacle piece is nice, I didn't realize you did nsfw

>yfw 12 characters were introduced
>yfw [o]termission
>yfw pace was killed again due to 4 scratch kids
>yfw trickster mode
>yfw beforans
>yfw retjohn
>yfw Vriska stole spotlight for the rest of the comic
>yfw no ending

>>82057631
if that was his intent, it would have been more blatant, I bet

>>82056810
>Vriska as eternal cancer
>not Karkat

Also why the fuck isn't Aradia the main character of Hivebent? Poor girl got fucked over.

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So as someone who started just before the pause for Cascade and jumped off the wagon literally the fucking page before Game Over (during the 1 year pause), I originally thought act 5 act 2 was the absolutely height of the comic and part 6 was one big mistep.

However over the past week I decided to reread the whole comic from the beginning, and while act 5 was a godamn joy to reread, I realized I was wrong about act 6. It certaintly dipped in enjoyability for a couple hundred pages after Cascade, but it ramped up waaaaaaaay better reading it archivally rather than having to wait between each update. It felt slow as shit in 2011, but coming back to it now it's actually really, really good.

That's not even including everything post Game Over, which I think might actually now be my favourite part of the whole comic now. Hundreds and hundreds of pages of juicy character development and a marriage of goofy shenanigans and serious business that is equal to, or maybe even better than act 5.

Collide was kind of disappointing from a visual standpoint, but Act 7 kind of more than made up for it in that aspect, and kind of blew me the fuck away with some of the visuals there. Anyway, I thought it was a fine enough ending. Coulda been better, yes, but I thought it was far from a bad conclusion. In fact I thought it would've been pretty fucking weird to have a big cliche climactic battle with the evil demon. Homestuck was always subversive for the hell of it and kinda meta-wanky, it makes perfect sense that the conclusion would the same way. Are people seriously this butthurt they didn't get Cascade 2.0? Didn't Hussie explicitly say that Cascade would be the biggest "climax" from a story perspective way back when it was fresh?

>>82057862
thanks
nsfw-pj.tumblr.com

>>82058001
>I thought it was far from a bad conclusion
It wasn't a bad conclusion. It just wasn't a conclusion.

>>82057845
Why do good things have to go and leave us. The tumblr's dead and the artist probably disappeared.

>>82057701
man Homestuck r34 is like, endless futa and body horror type shenanigans

>>82058001
>That's not even including everything post Game Over, which I think might actually now be my favourite part of the whole comic now.
Nobody's going to take your bait with this in there. Throw it out and smooth over your last paragraph, because that's also stretching it too thin. Try again next week.

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>tfw I knew this artist
>tfw they're batshit crazy
wew, dodged a bullet there lads

>>82057918
not really, this WAS after all the teasing like the "what a cute couple" bit in Seer: Descend. he knows how easy shippers are to rile up.

>>82058070
Batshit crazy how?

>>82058070
Never trust a person who doesn't understand proportion or perspective, never.

>>82058098
They like Homestuck

>>82058062
Why didn't you like it? I mean I can understand if you thought the whole retJohn powerup was kinda dumb and outta nowhere but I thought it fit thematically and fairly smoothly. It actually raised the stakes in a story where death means pretty much nothing.

any good dave/jade fics, preferably post-Sburb

>>82058247
www.mspaintadventures.com

>>82057584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vp1daYQddI

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>>82058189
You could have saved her anon. With your dick.

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>>82058262
Fuck no

>>82058078
I can see that being played off as a joke, but the Rose's line from the above log, just could have easily been non-romantic, harder to play off as a joke. Regardless, it feels pretty weird to just have it dropped like that.

>>82058254
I was about to say: and ideally without any shoehorned Davekat

>>82058317
Hussie's dropped bigger things.

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>>82058317
>Hussie dropping something

Gee how surprising

>>82058361
Like his infant son

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>>82058262
>sticking your dick in crazy
>rails pailing
>Bros fucking
Absolutely awfu

>>82058443
>Hussie has a son now
oh so that's why Homestuck went to shit

>>82058317
hussie's dropped whole comics before, what's one little plot thread?

Remember when Porrim debuted and all the fanart for weeks was her cucking kanaya with Rose

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>>82058538

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>tfw the rate of posts in these threads are becoming visibly smaller

Soon

>>82058530
always two there are, the hussies
a son and a dad

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>>82058573
>threads slow to one every week
>right before they end the epilogue comes out
>right as that dies down hiveswap comes out (>implying)
>then Homestuck 2.0
>then the next comic

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>>82058355
RIP

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>>82058573
I don't want to let go.

>>82058573
like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives

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What if the other retcon John is the one that caused the masterpiece?

If he didn't go back to Terezi like the first John did after he did the quest, he would've had to come up with his own ideas. I can see him hopping back in time a bit to simply grab everybody while they're still alive, and then they just decide to go kill the bad guy while he's still young because what else are they going to do? It's a very straightforward and non-Terezi-like plan

If this is true it means the original pre-retcon kids are the ones who ended up in the juju

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>>82058573
We'll be back for the epilogue. The real question is what's after Hiveswap, if that ever goes anywhere.

>>82055832
>>82055666

I really fucking hated that so much. That's one of the worser revelations in there.

It just makes everyone who's a fan of Bro feel guilty for even liking the dude in the first place. Hell, even the people liking Dirk feel guilty since Dirk is technically teen Bro.

It also seems unfair because Bro isn't even there to freaking defend himself. It's not like he's Heiachi from Tekken who was completely merciless to his own kid, at least he did this because he wanted to make Dave stronger and ready for any challenge thrown at him. Maybe he wanted to ensure that Dave could be strong enough to not rely on Bro for help.

None of the good things are even mentioned about Bro, such as how he ended up saving Dave's ass by slicing the meteor, and how he valiantly fought against Jack like a true hero.

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>>82058696
>how he valiantly fought to the death to buy everyone time against Jack with DS who Dave insulted
FTFY

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Anyone got a nice, sizeable list of smut to read?

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>went from rising star back to square one in four years
I honestly feel sorry for him. Still kind of his fault but hindsight is 20/20

>>82058728
http://archiveofourown.org/users/CidGregor/pseuds/CidGregor

have fun

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>>82058773
Fuck I remember some of these

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>>82058696

>for some reason 'real world character' shit that Hussie likes to make fun of is played absolutely straight regarding Bro and Dave

With how the entire destruction of Earth not registering for any of the characters because that's not the point of the damn story, this sure as hell had to go through.

Bullshit.

>>82058798
I remember the fanart

>>82058696
Yeah it's pretty shitty. Living with Bro might not have been the greatest thing in the world but he was keenly aware of Dave's limitations and supported Dave even as he was constantly pushing him. The training wasn't for nothing either, Dave was easily the best fighter of the Beta kids. And Bro clearly cared about Dave.

It's like, Dave is blaming Bro for not being able to turn a shitty situation into a better one, and that's really unreasonable. Bro was doing the best that he could knowing what would be on the horizon. In that way, it's almost like Dave is blaming Bro for being a single parent.

>>82058696
Did Davesprite ever really share his feelings on the subject of Bro. I really fucking think he'd disagree with the idea of Bro being a fucking menace given he watched the dude die firsthand. I feel Dave and him never had a real conversation with each other. Who better to share your feelings with than yourself. Probably would have been better for the both of them than Davesprite becoming a joke and Dave becoming a detached fag.

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Are we still mad about the ending?

>>82058696
>None of the good things are even mentioned about Bro, such as how he ended up saving Dave's ass by slicing the meteor, and how he valiantly fought against Jack like a true hero.
Did you skip the next set of pages where Dave and Dirk were talking? Because Dave did that.

>>82058696
>Rose thought her mom was being a sarcastic bitch but it was actually Rose
>Dave didn't really question his relationship with Bro until he had time to sit down and actually talk it out which made it definitely sound really fucked up in basically any other circumstance

>>82058696
>It just makes everyone who's a fan of Bro feel guilty for even liking the dude in the first place.
he was brainwashed by an evil puppet.
For Dave, that doesn't change the fact that he had a shitty childhood, but for the readers we have free reign to forgive the guy entirely

>>82058859
Davesprite also knows what it's like to fail hard and hit rock bottom. He probably appreciates Bro's sacrifices and efforts more than Dave does.

>>82058671
That's a pretty good point, but why would he arbitrarily decide not to go back to Terezi? also if this were the case, it's the kinda thing Hussie would have elaborated on.

>>82058913
Good thing its up to our interpretation then
:^)

I bet davesprite visited bro's grave on occasion during the 3 year trip

If Cal is literally Lord English then why was Calsprite so lame?

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>>82058877
please tell me someone made a caliborn one

...oh shit english posting

>>82058740
Hivebent was a mistake, and I'm not just memeing.

>>82058950
>Dave didn't even address that Roxy had Bro's sword

>>82058962
Hivebent is fine. By itself it's great. Integrating all of those characters into the story-in-progress is what sucked. It should have been more like the Felt intermission, tangentially related but not part of the main plot.

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>>82059006
Newreader was pretty spot-on tbqhfam

>>82058913
because our John told that John that he was the one learning to reconstruct the timeline with his powers, and that the responsibility is on his shoulders, not the other John's. And if he did go back to Terezi, he would've just popped up next to our John, and then Terezi would have to pick one to send on her quest while the other one does whatever

>>82058951
Because Cal wasn't literally LE. LE was trapped inside Cal, which is to say he's still just as powerless inside Cal as he is inside Calsprite.

>>82055634
That's funny, I don't remember an inter-galactic bypass destroying Earth in Dune.

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Would Hivebent have worked as a tie in sequel to a completed Homestuck if it finished before Cascade?

>>82059006
I kind of meant more along the lines of it killing his update momentum and making him have to hire a ghost writer to actually continue updating the comic. I know little about the actual contents of the game.

>>82058951
because calsprite was written before lord english was a thing

>>82059073
Newreader was too good for this sinful earth

>>82059138
well that would depend on how different the comic would have been.
Trolls after homestuck proper concluded would have likely been welcome.

>>82059138
Yeah

Shit, it could have worked well if it were presented like an intermission rather than an Act

>>82059073
I don't buy it. The Felt intermission came after the end of an Act too, and it was fine. Intermissions are fine. They're breaks from the main story. The problem with Hivebent is that it stopped being an intermission after it was over.

>>82059156
>killing his update momentum and making him have to hire a ghost writer
I don't think that's true. Hussie's pace increased slightly during Hivebent but that's because he was focusing on getting through it. He kept it simple and knew all of the marks he wanted to hit going in. He wrote more, and drew and animated less.

>>82058962
>>82059006
>>82059156
Scratch that, I confused Hivebent with Hiveswap. Hiveswap was the mistake, Hivebent was fine.

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Fuck you if you don't think KatNep is the tightest shit.

>>82059240
oh yeah that makes sense
yeah Hiveswap was a mistake

>>82059247
Literal garbage. Kudos to KatNep anon though. A real fucking trooper.

>>82058877

no because we realized that based lord english wins

Right so who invented Sburb in the first place and why would you not want to beat them up for what happened?

Since basically this hypothetical inventor is the root cause for endless and convoluted suffering, not to mention pointless genocide on a cosmic scale.

>>82059138

hivebent was fine

homestuck would have been a fairly pedestrian story of 4 kids playing a game without the troll storylines. theres a lot of other parts of homestuck that are just real story flaws

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>>82059276
WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?

>>82059311

IT'S UP TO YOUR INTERPRETATION :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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>>82059311
Sburb and whatever came before and after it is the Homestuck's iteration of a god entity.

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>>82058728
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/699886
Condie and her girls gang rape Roxy
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/389880
Meenah fucks Roxy senseless
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/3269105
Karkat becomes Vriska's prison 8itch
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/670274
The alpha kids kidnap Cronus and pass him around
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/1882092
Meenah buys Karkat for lewd purposes
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/500461
The troll girls shut Kankri up
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/1123455
Vriska and Rose argue and then fuck

If you're looking for stuff focusing exclusively on the kids I can't help you, you might want to try >>82058728

>>82059375
Thanks.

>>82059377
What a capricious, shitty and evil god. Which makes the "happy ending" all the more irksome.

>>82059311
Sburb is all about causal loops so I would not be surprised if it is one itself.

>>82059375
is this your very first fantasy story? not everything has to be explained in detail, despite what Hussie's writing style would lead you to believe

>>82059367
Katnep anon seemed the quiet type. Did their daily job and went about their life. I respected that. If that's you, well, KatNep's still fucking trash.

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Anyone here...... cosplay?

Eridan deserved a happy end

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>>82058773
>>82059403
Yes, this is good. Shame I already read some of them.

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>>82058877
I didn't write this but it describes my feelings about the "meta" interpretation of the ending pretty accurately

>>82059479
he got one, though

>>82059407
It's not exactly a sentient, singular god. It's basically a sustaining godlike universe creator.

>>82059247

nepeta is a lot funnier as a roleplaying cat who makes you wonder why she's in the story

>>82059469
There's a board for this.
>>>/cgl/

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>>82059479
He was just incredibly lonely. But >>82059509 is right. He's in bliss now.

Alright so is there any homesmut artists still left?

>>82059232
>presented like an intermission
intermission or not, shit was a year long.

The Midnight Crew intermission was like three months

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>>82059427
Please don't let my foibles make you think any less of the mission.

>>82059569
No.

>>82059593
Hivebent was only 3 months long.

>>82059593
Hivebent was three months.

>>82058829
There's fanart?

>>82055246
This. I won't say the entire "finale" was a bust just yet, because the epilogue to Problem Sleuth made it a lot better. However, that doesn't mean the Ending wasn't complete and utter garbage. It may have been enjoyable if, at the time, it wasn't the ending of Homestuck. The fact that Hussie even thought that he could post that without an epilogue is astounding.

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>>82059657
Yeah, back in the day when dave/jade was the biggest and best ship

>>82059695
man that pic is a blast from the past

>>82059695
i remember when daverose was the biggest and best ship and people only switched to davejade after ectobiology

no one gave a fuck about it before then

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>>82059720
Almost five years old now.

Remember the hype when Cascade came out?
Remember how it crashed the mspa site AND newgrounds? Remember the hype when Bec Noir used the red miles and the aspect ratio expanded with it?

>>82059755
I started just before the ectobiology so I was here just in time for the incest shitstorm

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>>82059755
I remember there still being a decent amount of supporters. It really took off in Act 5 after all their snowday stuff together, because that's when people realized they were really good together. Lexxy also helped fuel that.

>>82059820
lexxy's one of the former daverose shippers i'm talking about

>>82059820
>stupid mushy crap that will never happen the end
;_; (elf tears)

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>>82059864
And then she became the biggest proponent for Davejade

>>82059884
All her davejade stuff was heartmeltingly sweet

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>Hussie is the Waste of Space
>MSPA Reader is the Waste of Time

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a question i just came up with due to the thread image reminding me:

why didn't any of the kids put up more of a fight for their session being doomed back in act 4/5.2? the trolls just barged in and said "shits fucked" and everyone just believed them?

i feel like im just now starting to understand why people were upset that john didn't fucking do anything on his own for all of 5.2

>>82059884
Only because the superior ship became verboten.

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>>82059898
all davejade stuff is heartmeltingly sweet

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>>82059920
To be honest, on a reread I much preferred DaveJade, and it seemed a lot more pushed and obvious than DaveRose. DaveRose is a one night stand but DaveJade is a stable happy marriage.

>>82059919
Well Bec Noir made a pretty compelling case for their shit being fucked. John was already ~~God Tier~~ and was wrecked in one hit.

>>82056239

Doc Scratch defined the alpha timeline as the one in which Lord English exists.

That's precisely Caliborn/Lord English's greatest power. Reality will bend over backwards for him, even the retcon stuff was just part of his origin.

Which is kind of stupid since the retcon was supposed to be the glitch necessary to beat him.

>>82059917
>The epilogue is Reader dying on his quest stump and then all sorts of stupid shit happens

>>82059931
It makes me sad how things just didn't stay simple.

I was looking around youtube for a guide to Overseer2, and found the Let's Read Homestuck series. And by god, is it shit.
>Narrator
Sometimes a British Narrator sounds good. Not here.
Recently, I've pictured the Narrator sounding like Cecil Baldwin from Nightvale. Then again, I haven't listened to that since it got all gay.
>John
Speed demon does not fit his Prankster Attitude. The pitch is fine, but the tone is horrid. If he just slowed down and acted more jokingly it'd be great.
>Dave
Sounds too much like a Surfer Bro. Dave should be like one of those kids who dressed up like Eminem after Slim Shady came out. The speed he reads at sounds natural enough, though.
>Rose
Sounds way too chipper, and not at all Sarcastic.

I stopped going through it there. Fuck dubbers.

>>82059991
>Reality will bend over backwards for him, even the retcon stuff was just part of his origin.
You know what's weird? That's an incredibly passive ability. Caliborn doesn't even have to think about it and time loops will form around him. That should be Calliope's power, not Caliborn's.

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>>82060009
I mean in the end they kind of did. They met back up, Jade got flirty, next thing you know they're fucking in front of Karkat. Not like there had to be anything more after the stuff we saw, it was always kind of obvious that they liked each other.

>>82059919
John just rolled with what people said because after dealing for Nannasprite for three acts he gave up on figuring things out and just assumed that it would all make sense in the end
I don't think anyone actually told Dave until after Bro died, which as far as omens go was pretty convincing
Rose spent a good while turning the session upsidedown to get to the bottom of things and verified for herself that shit was fucked
Jade saw half of what Jack was going to do in the dream bubbles and confirmed the situation with Echidna

>>82059988
that's fair, i had forgotten how central the beta kids' jack used to be.

>>82059504
yeah, this raises a question too:

WHAT DO THE CHARACTERS IN THIS COMIC FUCKING WANT

I don't get it.
What's the proper timeline from Caliborn to Lord English?

Caliborn > Dominance > Session > Kills Clock > ????? > Doc Scratch > Intermission 2 > Wild Goose Chase through Paradox Space
> EOA7

>>82060033
I think even if the trolls never happened and stuff and Hussie never got big into shipping Dave and Jade probably still would have hooked up, he seemed like he planned that for a while and that they were going to be the Couple.

>>82060068
>WHAT DO THE CHARACTERS IN THIS COMIC FUCKING WANT
People don't have wants.

>>82060068
The only person who seemed to really want to create a new universe was Kanaya, IMO. Everyone else just kind of went along with it.

>>82060079
put this sequence in at the ?????

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT6.php?s=6&p=009309

>>82059919
They had a day or so to defeat a boss who was supposed to be stronger than the trolls Black King. When the reckoning ends the battlefield is fucked.

>>82060025
>I was looking around youtube for a guide to Overseer2, and found the Let's Read Homestuck series. And by god, is it shit.
Yeah no shit, anyone but Hussie doing the narration literally makes no sense since the narration LITERALLY Hussie talking to the viewer. Except for when it's Caliborn.

also what the fuck did you expect

>>82060105
Did she even want to create a new universe? She was more concerned about raising a new Mother Grub. I guess a universe where it could actually live was part of the plan, though.

post your favorite fantracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq42ueaXI-4

>>82059311
>>82059407

If Sburb is evil then so is the real world since everything in real life must also die. At least in Homestuck's world life continues after the universe ends. We probably aren't so lucky. And we don't have that much time left either, the universe is already something like halfway to the end of sustainable life.

Lexxy tried to win Strip Search by dressing like a bimbo

That or she took the name of the show at face value; hard to say

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>>82060116
>>82060067
yeah, youre all right, i remember now.

its so weird to reminded of a time where things made fucking sense in this comic

>>82059755
I supported DaveJade from their very first conversation

>>82060135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyX_pHsqak

>>82060068
>WHAT DO THE CHARACTERS IN THIS COMIC FUCKING WANT

I mean, only John really wanted to Beat the Game
At the end, what they wanted was
>Karkat: Be a leader or in charge of something great
>Terezi: ???
>Vriska: Have everyone pay attention to her and beat the game because she's a powergamer
>Roxy: Get dicked, meet her mom, get revenge on the Condesce
>Dirk: Meet brother?
>Jake: Not be raped
>Jane: Rape Jake
>Dave: Relax and meet with his brother. Uh, that's about it.
>Jade: Meet back with her family, get dicked
>Kanaya: Revive Race
>Rose: Meet her mom, get girldicked

So we had about two people who really wanted to beat the game. Most other people just wanted to get dicked.

>>82059311
I think SBURB just kind of exists. Maybe at first it just created crude, simple universes and then evolved in complexity over time.

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>>82060109
I motherfucking love this kid. How did Hussie manage this. Making the villain far more likable than most the main cast.

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>>82060135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJVzHZJBAhA

>>82060206
I'm sure it was some form of release for him.

davejade is honestly TOO saccharine

it needs to be balanced by (if we stick only to the kids) jaderose and davejohn, it needs not be the whole focus

>>82060192
i love how one of the trolls is concerned about the revivial of their race but none of the kids give a flying FUCK about humanity

>>82060192
I just noticed that all four Patron Trolls survived.

>>82060206
It helps that by the time Caliborn was introduced the rest of the cast had degraded into insufferable caricatures.

>>82060239
Why would they?

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>>82060230
>davejade is honestly TOO saccharine

But that's what's nice about it
In a world of fuckedupness it's a little patch of happiness

>>82060247
>implying Vriska survived

>>82060206
With most of the cast, he lost what made them unique. They kind of melted together into one indistinct blob.

With Caliborn, though, he never did. He's a dumb, sexist, untalented, egotistical, psychotic little cunt, but he's that from from start to finish.

>>82060230
It's always come across as lame manic pixie dream girl shit to me.

>>82060239
Jade has expressed mild interest in breeding duties, and at least seems like she'd entertain momhood.
Roxy would be fine with it but I think she's more interested in getting dicked than saving the universe. From her perspective humanity's been gone for years anyway.

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>>82060212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a96-nueMCHk

>>82060263
This is too perfect.
I almost feel bad for avoiding the HS community while reading.

>>82060272
If Caliborn's ability is to make the timeline bend over backwards for him, Vriska's is the same for the plot

So Dave/Jade/Karkat OT3

I can dig it, but didn't Jade not want to bang Karkat? Or is pegging less ewwww to her

>>82060239
There's not enough genetic variance to save the human race

They've got like one generation before they have no choice but to inbreed

Humanity's gone

>>82060285
It's funny how if the girl is more cheerful than the guy it's automatically sexist manic pixie dream girl shit, but Jurassic world was also sexist because the guy was more cheerful than the girl.

Exactly what personalities are allowed to exist in a non-sexist manner?

>>82060263
see >>82060285
this is what i'm getting at
any fic writer or artist who makes davejade the focus just fucks up their characters so bad
it turns into fucking manic pixie and tryhard coolkid - played straight, mind you - or gushy dork.

i don't want a relationships of happiness to balance out the fucked up
they're fucked up just like everyone else, let them be fucked up, and also, in love

if you have to pretend they have no flaws to ship them, i recommend not shipping them

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>>82060299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHjYM56U2os

>>82060338
>if you have to pretend they have no flaws to ship them, i recommend not shipping them
someone post the copypasta

>>82060326
Ectobiology allows for all sorts of bullshit

>>82060326
Ectobiology can fix any problems. That's how the carapacians do it.

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>>82060323
Jade still doesn't. Karkat's not a variable in that relationship.
Nor should he be. Him being an accessory to Dave is stupid. Dave already had his own established relationships. Karkat needs to go off and be the troll emperor like he was fucking supposed to be, not reduced to the thing that sometimes gets to fuck Dave or Jade when their sex life gets boring.

>>82060323
see this is where everyone makes a mistake

and also where everyone who says "but dave doesn't like sharing" get's it wrong

it's not a triangle, it's a CHEVRON
dave is the balance
dave isn't sharing jade, or karkat, he is being shared

or at least that's how it should be
most people ship it with Jade in the middle, and that's just casting her feelings for karkat in the wrong light

if anything, both karkat and jade are red for dave
and jade and karkat are like, ashen for each other

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>>82060354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6NrArPldZo

>>82060382
Karkat needs to go marry Clover, strap that fucker to his back and get John to drop him off at the LE deathaton.

Dave can just ectobiologically create a fusion of Jade and Karkat and wait for it to grow up

>>82060382
>not reduced to the thing that sometimes gets to fuck Dave or Jade when their sex life gets boring.
why do you even think that's anywhere near how people ship the OT3

like
fuck
do you not understand how polyamory works? it's not monogamy+mistress

>>82060394
say what you will about Jade but Karkat was definitely red for her

>>82060416
>wait
Time waits for no fucktoy.

>>82060416
He can send it forward in time to when Earth is fucked and have Gamzee raise the hellspawn alongside Caliborn.

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>>82060338
But that's kind of the point. Dave and Jade might have flaws but their personalities and relationship is one that naturally kind of bypasses and helps work past that. That's what a healthy relationship is.

>>82060423
>Implying Karkat "Usless Manlet" Vantas is an equal partner in this relationship

>>82060426
and jade isn't red for her
and so they aren't in a red relationship
because now he and dave are red

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>>82060404
http://tindeck.com/album/azhpi

>>82060068
They wanted to have orgies in peace

>>82060457
well they're teenagers and the last remaining individuals of their species
I'm sure she'll get around to experimenting with him eventually

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>>82060426
And Jade wasn't anything for him.

>>82060423
It doesn't matter how they fucking ship it, because that's how it is. Karkat's story somehow being linked to Dave and Jade because why the fuck not is stupid.

Karkat's purpose was to lead the trolls like an angry midget Moses, not to be Dave's girlfriend or your shitty polyship bait, and if you're going to make him that you really don't give a damn about the character.