The Guardians have fallen

>>82005862
Overexposure?

>>82005862
Well, Star-Lord had the fucking awful Sam Humphries writing it. Guardians of Infinity was $5 an issue. Drax has CM fucking Punk writing it. Rocket & Groot was always going to be a stealth mini.

It's really no surprise.

>>82005862
>Gamora book nowhere to be found
Perlman is probably too busy trying to figure out a Captain Marvel script.

>>82005862
all of those characters sucked, except for one brilliant saga, nothing of value was lost

They tried to make the comics like the movie, instead of making the comics like the comics that led to a greenlit movie.

>>82005862
BRAVO GUNN

>>82005862
>Guardians of Infinity cancelled
Abnett should just become a DC exclusive. At this point he's wasting his time at Marvel. INB4 COMPANY WARS, PLEASE

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>>82005862
>What happened?
Not enough dance off

>>82006422
Don't kid yourself, those comics sold like shit

>>82005862
Does this mean they'll finally try to bring back the characters who have been unincluded in everything for so long, or are they just gonna double down and try to relaunch each solo book for them?

>>82005862
starlord was good(interesting at least), rest were shit desu

>>82005862
>Gamora book nowhere to be found
It still hurts.
I can hold onto the hope that they're simply waiting for GotG2 to hit theatres.

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>>82006652
Nope. Next step is bringing back Angela. The old characters (sans Martyr who's dead and Jack Flag who is literally who?) have been packed and forgotten in a team called Knowhere Corps to never appear again.

>>82006318
wouldn't say Annihilation was the only good one, I liked Conquest too and also some of vol 2

>>82005862
>How do you manage to kill your new mega franchise this fast?
Pretty sure actual comic sales are a laughably small part of a franchise's drawing power.

>>82006778
All of the Annihilators have made almost 0 appearances since NOW!
Ronan gets to show up as long as he acts like his movie version, and Surfer is being written by Slott.

>>82005862
>What happened?
Too many shit books when all the fans wanted was one good book.

>>82006818
Gladiator appeared on Trial of Jean Grey and the next arc.

>>82005862

Good. Fuck them. Fuck all of them. Let them burn.

Cosmic Marvel used to MEAN something besides post-modernist self-referential garbage. Fuck that.

GotG was an okay movie, but fuck them for what they did to the comics in its name.

>>82006778

An Image/ Marvel crossover? Sheeeiiiit, that could actually be cool.

Imagine, Spawn and Deadpool...

I dunno though. Angela may be a bit too Nineties for Marvel. I doubt she would transfer well.

>>82006778
Suddenly, ThingXAngela OTP for no reason.

>>82006922
she's been in marvel since like 2013

>>82006966
>2013
Time flies

>>82006922
Marvel bought Angela. shes already been running around for like a year.

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>>82006784
I treat Conquest as the same saga, maybe I'm wrong. Anyways, the shitty comic IP known as guardians of the galaxy, was shit before Annihilation and returned to shit after it.

>>82006966
>>82006990
holy shit, is it that long ago?

>>82006606
I know they don't work together anymore, but what's Lanning been up to lately?

>>82006960
Bendis has been trying to pair Angela and Gamora since he started. It will probably go there now that no one can stop him.

And Thing got himself an alien last issue.

Marvel has all the fucking money on earth right now, they should chill the fuck down and invest into actually good stories with consistent characters.

>>82006966
>>82006990

I know, friends. I was making a llittle joke, to highlight what a FUCKING BULLSHIT IDEA this was.

>>82006882

It was never good
I think anybody on this board can tell you that Bendis run guardians is really really bad and everything that has to do with it are just as bad if not worse, at least Bendis can get good artists

>>82007017
It's been like 3 years, she was a Thor supporting character and then a guardians supporting character and has had two canceled ongoings

>>82007166

And she is going to keep failing so long as she's a fucking Mary Sue.

Initially I thought she was going to BE the new Thor, which I actually could have handled.

You know what Angela needs? To be taken for a ride by Loki. Five issues, she bullies and threatens him all the way, and in the end it turns out he has been playing her all that time.

And afterwards everybody buys her drinks because "she has lost her Loki-cherry".

>>82007388
that already happened in the gillen mini

he strung along and betrayed the angels

>>82006778
Who's the blue chick?

There's gonna be two more movies, and isn't there still a cartoon?

Not really upset about the comics sputtering out, they were never gonna reach DnA levels of greatness again with current editorial

>>82007430
Kitty Pryde

>>82005862
>What Happened?

Nobody reads comics anymore.

>>82007588
Kitty, the X-Men mutant?

>>82007622
Not an X-Men anymore, but yeah her.

>>82007029
Nothing.

>>82007055
Dude, they have the MCU. They don't care about comics anymore.

>>82007622
She's engaged to Peter. They've had an intergalactic distance relationship ever since Trail of Jean Grey. She even was Star-Lady for awhile while Peter was playing Spartaxian Emperor.

>>82007535
Cartoon is decent. It deals a lot with Space stuff. Yet they haven't ran into Galactus or Silver Surfer yet. So it's 6/10 in my book. They take more after their movie counterparts. Also they're shipping Angela X Gamora pretty hard.

>>82007388
a redesign wouldn't hurt either.

>>82005862

>publish a new line of cosmic shit without any of the appeal of the stuff that had made it A BIT successful in the past decade by soft rebooting most of the chars or otherwise ignoring all previous characterization

>put literally CANCER writers in charge of most of those books

>wonder why they failed

>>82007388
>You know what Angela needs?

Yes, to be ignored and returned to her hellhole (spawn comics). Shit character, shit design, shit everything.

>>82006862
Waste of appearance.

>>82007853
who hurt you?

>>82007773
Yet they are still keep making those cheap ass cashgrabs. Desperation would be understandable if it was 20 years ago but now they actually have the money-time to think shit through.

God, that Bendis GotG was abysmal and the fact this monstrosity exists makes me weep.

>>82005862
They tried to ape Gunn without any of his charm.

>>82007951
>cheap ass cashgrabs
And movie pitches. Execs don't read comics, so they see them as those two things.

How to make cosmic marvel at least good again:

>Bring fresh talent with interest in sci-fi, let them revert to old characterizations of they want.
>No forced movie synergy. Fuck no MU synergy either. Galactus already said continuity inconsistencies are canon anyway in Ultimates.
>Bring back Giffen for a single flagship cosmic event to relaunch the shit
>Keep Bendis away from it

>>82008154
>read Valiant instead

>>82006784
Only the StarLord mini from conquest was good

>>82008154
>impossible
>impossible
>impossible
>impossible

>>82005862
They'll let it cool down, keep it to just GotG for a year or so, then ramp it up again when the sequel hits. And now they'll have plenty of trades and collections to offer of the characters as well.

>>82008295
What's Giffin up to these days anyways?

>>82008421
DC exclusive. JL 3001 and other nice things.

I and many other Americans don't read comics. The GOTG movie was great, but all I'm interested in waiting for is GOTG 2.

>>82008421

He could still ghostwrite something for marvel using a fake name like Htiek Neffig i think.

>>82008154
You're forgetting one very little thing called sales and making money.

>revert to old characterizations instead of the ones that people know from the movies.
There goes 10,000 sales
>No MU universe relation. Pretty much an alternate universe then.
There goes another 20,000
>No big name writers
Another 10,000 out

Result: 20,000 launch at best.

>>82008767
You're right. Marvel is in such a hard financial position right now and they absolutely cannot afford taking a risk or experiment to try out new stuff in a dying medium.

>>82008767
Neither of you know what you're talking about.

>>82007843
As shitty as DC can be at least they were self-aware enough to admit and address the things going wrong with the New 52 and DCYou. Marvel is really still trying to act like the GotG is this amazing property when they themselves have driven it to the ground.

>>82008767
the books specifically designed to appeal to MCU drones are all tanking anyway

also not caring about MU synergy doesnt mean "no MU universe relation". it means that they would be independent of the MU crossover epidemic that sweeps all books twice a year

>>82008869
>Marvel is a Disney company now and they absolutely cannot afford taking a risk or experiment to try out new stuff in a dying medium.
Fixed.

>>82008932
Marvel got like bambillion dollars from Disney.

>>82009087
>The Marvel CEO got
Fixed. Ike Perlmutter never cared for comics either.

>>82005862
They'll all get books again when the sequel comes out.

>>82008154
>>82008767
The no MU synergy could work as long as they keep some links to the MU. Like the current line up is perfect for a no MU synergy book. And as much as Bendis is criticized, he's doing a good job so far avoiding Earth and the wider MU. Of course all that will change once he shoehorn the team into CW II, but the point is that it could work.

>>82007004
Fuck you, I liked some of Valentino's stuff. And Gamora and Drax's best shit is before Annihilation anyway.

>>82005862

They put their worst writers on it. They actually went out of their way to find other bad writers for it.

>>82013091
This

>>82005862
proof that movie goers in the majority don't care about the comics... the guardians have never sold that much, to try to scatter them along solo books was a dumb move, GotG sold decently on their own as a team book (before they changed them to be like their movie counterpart)

>>82006784
The Thanos imperative was good also IMO

>>82006784

I consider all of Space Marvel from Annihilation through to Thanos Imperative as one long saga.

>>82018463
Actually GotG is still selling decently as a team. But that's the only book that is doing decent and mainly because Bendis name sells.

>>82005862

bendis drove away everyone who gives a shit about the guardians of the galaxy leaving only his audience of bendisfags who buy his bendisfaggotry and nothing else

>>82006170
>Guardians of Infinity was $5 an issue
Why the fuck does Marvel do this. I would be hard pressed to pay $5 an issue for my favorite series of all time, let alone this shit

>>82006606
Please no, I like Hercules and am hopeful about the next book.

>>82008154
>Revive Dick Rider and make him have space adventures with Sam
>fuck movie synergy
>bring new talent and competent writers
>Big event to kickstart Cosmic Marvel again (probably written by Hickman he likes Sci fi shit)
>Make Nova (Dick) their flagship cosmic book
>Don't let Bendis touch it with a 100 feet pole

>>82018598
pretty much this, it can be read like one long storyline, also I would throw in there the Originial Sin GotG issues as an epilogue

To be honest, they didn't diversify their books. I don't mean minorities or female, I mean that all the books had the same tone. This cosmic silliness that doesn't really get that deep. The way that the galaxy is one giant "Space America", and that every single fucking book dealt with the team getting put into a jail and then breaking out.

If they wanted to make the GOTG line last, they needed to:
A) Give supporting casts to the characters.
B) Actually make each book feel different
C) Give actual stories to each character.

>>82018636
atleast one of the cosmics is doing well, but really GotG and the characters have never been the big selling comic Mickey Mouse wants to make them be. like I said they work as a team book and sell good as such, probably Gamorra and Drax had decent sales before they came into the team (I really haven't read any pre GoTG character's books apart from Starlord) but they have been attached to the team for quite some years so now the most recognizable thing from them (atleast for the normies or comic book noobs) is that they are part of the Guardians and think they can't stand on their own (also fucking idiot writers don't help)

>>82018715
Because each issue was over-sized, so they could fit a second story in each issue. The worst part is that since the second story of each issue was the same size as the main story, it still cut into the main story's number of pages, so despite being over-sized $5 an issue, we've actually gotten LESS of the Guardians of Infinity than if it was just a regular comic.

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>>82005862
I thought you were talking about movies/tv series. Who gives a fuck about some papershit when the mainstream can make it come to life now.

>>82006882
Not even Gunn liked the direction Bendis was taking in the comic. He straight up called it shit and forbade the actors from ever reading it.

Not that actors actually read any comics (Except maybe Vin Diesel).

Have you seen the BvS cast failing to act like they give a damn about DC Rebirth? Shit's fucking cringeworthy.

>>82020241
Ben actually seemed interested but he's a better actor than all of them.

>>82018860
Why?
They're terrible and diminish the impact of Thanos Imperative.

>>82005862
Marvel still believe casuals who watch their movies will ever read comics is what happened. They're delusional.

>>82020685
The only terrible thing about the saga was Vulcan and Wraith. Everything else ranged from good to amazing.

>>82018598
This
Its really the best way to read it along with all the tie ins and minis

is there like a full reading list for Cosmic Marvel? not just the post-Annihilation stuff but going all the way back to the silver age

>>82018650
This

>>82005862
DnA era fans aren't buying anything because the current stuff is awful and nothing like what made them fans in the first place, and casuals are, at most, buying GoTG because of brand recognition.

Trying to make like five books out of this was a mistake that Marvel should have predicted.

>>82021001
I'll never really understand comic sales strats.

Like, the DnA run was relatively stable until the last big story, the got like 3 or 4 years of 50 to 40K sales with minis getting what, 20?

Then Marvel think we can do better coz movie, launch a half dozen titles expecting them all to sell 100K + for years and then just throw shit at them when sales drop like a stone down to lower levels than the old stuff.

Like, be happy with what you have. I remember them saying years ago that they kept Garth Ennis on Punisher because every issue sold around 40K issues guaranteed. Not much more, not much less. That was the market for that book and they didn't fuck with it until Ennis wanted to leave.

>>82018860
>also I would throw in there the Originial Sin GotG issues as an epilogue
Fuck no it completely shits all over Thanos Imperative
Jesus Christ kill yourself

>>82020827
He was talking about Original Sin faggot

>>82020241
>He straight up called it shit and forbade the actors from ever reading it.
This isn't true and you know it. He didn't call anything shit and he didn't forbid anyone from reading anything.

And Chris Pratt read the first Bendis comics.

>>82021236
DnA never got 50k sales. First issue was 36k and it went downhill since there.

If you could pick your own team of Guardians from all of Cosmic Marvel, who would they be?

>>82022098
Star-Lord, Mantis, Jack Flagg, Rocket, Groot, Phyla and Bug.

>>82022098

I think DnA's first team has a lot going for it and I think the movie got the 'core group' right. Star-Lord, Rocket & Groot, Drax and Gamora are a must have, really. Well, Gamora maybe not so much. Star-Lord and Drax are in their Giffen incarnations, the rest is DnA.

Other than those I'd just add Phyla, Bug and Cosmo.

>>82022098
There's nothing wrong with the current team, the only thing missing is a good writer.

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Bring the Flag back

>>82022330
>There's nothing wrong with the current team
>Venom
I could dig both Ben and Kitty in space with a good writer, though.

>>82022267
>Gamora
I think Mantis was more important to the team than Gamora, but again she was important for the plot because of her connection with Thanos. I'm glad we're getting Mantis in the next movie. I hope they don't change characterization that much.

>>82022371

I think The Thing in space is a brilliant idea.

>>82005862
>Terrible writers
>Terrible art after 1st arc
>Terrible events/crossovers
>Giving X-men shit to the GoTG books
>Meme-lord and Jew-pride=boring as fuck
Geez, I don't anon, maybe because they fucked everything.

>>82022371
There's nothing wrong with Venom in space. He's an alien symbiote and his solo isn't bad proving he can easily fit.

>>82006170
I liked the Drax book
(CM Punk only co-workers it)

>>82022576
There's way too many big guys and Agent Venom works better in earth anyway.

>>82019831
Now that's some shit

>>82022610
I think I'd like Venom in space if A. It wasn't Flash he's much better on Earth
and B. It wasn't written by Bendis.

>>82022710
>return Flash to earth
>send Toxin to space

>>82022457
You are part of the problem

>>82018598

I think that's pretty appropriate.

>>82022754
I can see it working well, just not how it's been
>F4 is presumed dead
>Ben's an accomplished space ship pilot
>Goes off into space because Earth reminds him too much of his dead family
>Maybe take Johnny with him
There's ways to make it work, but it's been shit under Bendis.
>>82022749
>Send Toxin to Space
>Don't reveal the wearers identity
>twist reveal: It's Jack Flagg

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>decide to watch the cartoon
>toon starlord's voice
WHY

>>82020241
>Not that actors actually read any comics (Except maybe Vin Diesel).

I thought Pratt Sat down with DnA's run. The guy that did Rocket boned up as well.

>>82005862
Is this because of the war between Perlmutter and Feige?

>>82022754
And you're part of the other problem that sent DnA's Guardians to the chopping block

It's not about isolating from the Marvel Universe, neither is about going to Earth every single fucking issue.

The key is fucking balance. Is that hard for Marvel or you DnAcucks to understand?

>>82006170
>Drax has CM fucking Punk writing it
And it's fucking awesome.
It's like a cosmic western about Drax travelling through space, trying to kill Thanos and wrestling anything that gets in his way.

It's honestly the only Marvel book I'm currently bothering pulling.

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Skottie Young is a good artist but he absolutely shouldn't write.

His dialogue is fun but he can't do a consistent story. I'm not counting the days when Sale comes back.

>>82023184
I remember reading the first issue and thinking "This is so stupid it's amazing" and then I forgot about it.
Too bad, what you're describing sounds fun.

>>82023318
The most recent issues had fucking Fin Fang Foom just show up, it's a good time.

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So, what happened to Rocket and Groot? Hell, how did Rocket come back to life?

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This is the closest thing to a Guardians book desu

>>82023671
now this is some good cosmic

>>82005862
>>Star-Lord cancelled
Humphries is leaving and it was doing really bad sales wise

>>Guardians of Infinity cancelled
Backups were bad and affecting Abnett's story which wasn't that great to begin with.

>>Skottie Young gone from Rocket & Groot
Probably wanted to move on

>>Gamora book nowhere to be found
Still happening according to Brevoort but it got delayed, my guess it's because Nicole Perlman was busy writing the Captain Marvel script and they gave priority to that.

>>Drax book in the crapper with worse sales than the cancelled Star-Lord
Yeah, that book had lots of potential but the direction was just bad.

Bendis GotG loses sales and spikes every other time, I work at a comic shop and most of the people who buy this book eitheir buy it out of a sense of obligation, because it's the main GotG book and they don't want to be left out, because Bendis is a popular writer and they think the comic is going to be worth something, or whatever ridiculous reason. Only 2 people that buy that comic actually like it but the rest of these fuckers aren't happy with Kitty being in the book or with what Bendis is doing yet they keep buying it which I guess it's good for my boss but way to be a battered wife.

>>82005862
You know how movies based on good comics used to be awful? This right here is the inverse.

>>82007535
>they were never gonna reach DnA levels of greatness again with current editorial

Especially with Wacker being in charge of Cosmic, just look at the GoTG cartoon and how shitty it is especially Peter's obnoxious attitude and whiny voice, how did Wacker (and Humphries in his comic) get that impression from Chris Pratt's performance?

>>82008701
KEK

If any of you are going to ghost write or use a pseudonym on Marvel try using these names:

>Nate D.C. Reiter
>Marv Elliot Zacks
>Ben Dennis Ahak
>Pak Yu Quesada

>>82007796
She will be breaking up with Peter at some point according to the solicits especially since Bendis said that was Humphries' idea to put them together and now that he's leaving I guess he'll have to clean house.

Bendis also said he was introducing a new OC Guardian character so I can see him pairing his waifu with his OC, it's not like he hasn't done that before.

>>82008154
Just by virtue of removing Bendis it will become good by default.

>>82011627
I don't know, Drax finally actually Destroying Thanos at exactly the wrong time was pretty satisfying.

>>82018769
This, this so much. I still haven't gotten over the death of the Dick Rider. A few years ago i binged all of annihilation, conquest, and any attached cosmic marvel i could get a hold of. That version of Nova is my absolute favourite marvel character/story. His death was bullshit, i wish he hadn't been replaced with a bendis series.

Bring back the Dick, i want to get back on the ride.

>>82008898
To this date Brevoort defends Ultimatum, Sins Past, and OMD so that should tell you something.

>>82020471
Ben is a pretty big nerd, so he may not have been acting.

>>82022935
It was the isolation that let it grow and evolve. The only thing DnA did was reference earth here and there but the problem with it is making it go back to earth rather than expanding the cosmos like it should be doing.

>>82020827
Vulcan is so terrible it should temper everyone's expectations from Brubaker. That he's responsible for a character that bad is a cautionary tale.

>>82022369
I want to wave that Flag while I'm Riding the Dick and dipping the Quill.

>>82022369
I think the thing that most disappointed me about DnA's Guardians was never having Jack ask Vance about the shield.

>>82024351
Nor we had Richard have a moment with future Vance.
Disappointing to think about what could have happened.

>>82021693
Pratt started reading the Bendis comics and Gunn told him to stop, said that if he had to read anything to read DnA's because that's the closest they were going to get but that they would be doing their own thing so in the end he just said not to read anything.

Still Pratt most likely ended up reading DnA's run because he had a DnA GotG tpb in one of his instagram photos in the background eitheir that or Gunn might have brought it to reference it on set for GotG vol. 2

That said Gunn doesn't give much of a shit about Bendis' run and I don't think he hates it because he most likely doesn't even care to read it since he's always debunking people thinking Angela/Venom/Kitty(lol)/Ben Grimm will be added to GotG vol 2 and is confused as to why people even suggest those characters.

Also when he was writing the GotG script he invited Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning to look at it and even thanked them on the credits of GotG, he's even adding characters to the team who were in the DnA team like Mantis so he gives some importance to DnA.

>>82022935
>And you're part of the other problem that sent DnA's Guardians to the chopping block

DnA's GotG was sent to the chopping block because the movie was being planned so they wanted to relaunch it with Bendis.

Hell Thanos Imperative was done with DnA having in mind that they were going to be in the chopping block, honestly you don't know fucking anything.

>>82023279
>MFw not a graphic novel about halfworld whit rocket and company

>>82005862
>What happened?
>>82005968
>Overexposure?
It's kind of like rewatching the Avengers movie more than once. Or any MCU film for that matter. Doesn't hold up on repeated viewings.

The Fresh Meme Became Stale. That And DISNEY'S Marvel Didn't Want Space Movies To Compete With Their Space Movies.

>>82024694
Wrong. DnA Guardians was cancelled on early 2010 and Bendis didn't get interested on Guardians until at least late 2011 (when he saw the early drafts of the movie). Sales of DnA were bad, that's why it was cancelled. Same reason why Infinity, 3000 and Annihilators were cancelled. Same reason why they didn't let DnA do their Star-Lord/Nova book on other dimension.

>>82022098
All-New, All-Different Guardians-
Zan Philo the three armed Nova from the tail end of Richard's book, Comet Man, Dorrek VIII, a new version of the Lightning Lad analogue from the Imperial Guard, and as a twist, Justice.

Do like two storylines of that and revert to a more semi-conventional line up of Star-Lord, Rocket & Groot, Mantis, Bug, and throw in Smasher, Cannonball, Justice and Ultra Girl.

>>82024509
Yeah, especially at the end of Thanos Imperative, with Paradox Namorita just standing right there next to Vance there should have been SOMETHING.

Like, I'm pretty sure Vance must have told the Warriors about that time Future Him told him to not join the Air Force, right?

>>82022858
Master Chief, that's why.

>>82024928
How much did DnA GotG sells?

>>82025118
>Paradox Namorita
What happened with her? Was she ever mentioned again?

>>82025306
Well, Nighthawk somehow got back to Earth, and Water Snake was Namorita but claiming she wasn't, so maybe she got a ride back and then had her personality wiped to not be associated with Stamford?

>>82025428
Nighthawk. Shit, I should go to bed.

Darkhawk. I meant Darkhawk.

>>82025303

>Guardians of the Galaxy 1 $2.99 Marvel 36,282
>Guardians of the Galaxy 2 $2.99 Marvel 32,955
>Guardians of the Galaxy 3 $2.99 Marvel 31,700
>Guardians Of the Galaxy 4 $2.99 Marvel 40,264
>Guardians Of the Galaxy 4 $2.99 Marvel 40,264
>Guardians Of the Galaxy 6 $2.99 Marvel 36,541
>Guardians Of the Galaxy 7 $2.99 Marvel 30,510
>Guardians of the Galaxy 8 $2.99 Marvel 31,560
>Guardians Of the Galaxy 9 $2.99 Marvel 28,494
>Guardians of the Galaxy 10 $2.99 Marvel 27,643
>Guardians of the Galaxy 11 $2.99 Marvel 27,411
>Guardians of the Galaxy 12 $2.99 Marvel 26,760
>Guardians of the Galaxy 13 $2.99 Marvel 27,105
>Guardians of the Galaxy 14 $2.99 Marvel 27,130
>Guardians of the Galaxy 15 $2.99 Marvel 26,798
>Guardians of the Galaxy 16 $2.99 Marvel 26,587
>Guardians of the Galaxy 17 $2.99 Marvel 27,864
>Guardians of the Galaxy 19 $2.99 Marvel 23,583
>Guardians of the Galaxy 20 $2.99 Marvel 22,954
>Guardians of the Galaxy 21 $2.99 Marvel 22,271
>Guardians of the Galaxy 22 $2.99 Marvel 21,623
>Guardians of the Galaxy 23 $2.99 Marvel 22,807
>Guardians of the Galaxy 24 $2.99 Marvel 21,643
>Guardians of the Galaxy 25 $2.99 Marvel 24,568

Honestly I think it did pretty well for a mostly unknown title with mostly unknown writers considering nowadays sales drop below 20,000 pretty quickly but this comic managed to keep it up above it even when it was skimming it.

>>82024928
>Star-Lord/Nova book on other dimension
Fuck I would have killed for that.

>>82005862
>Drax book in the crapper with worse sales than the cancelled Star-Lord
That's disappointing.

>>82025428
Didn't Nita appear in New Warriors alongside Water Snake and the others like in the last issue.

All I know is the writer thought she had died in the Cancerverse until fans told him she didn't, lol.

>>82025969
Marvel can't cancel it; the have folding chairs in their offices.

>>82024928
https://youtu.be/cEpO1cTmoGk?t=56m16s

It seems weird that Marvel gave them Annihilators then if that was the case. All I know is that Abnett said that Marvel wanted to change creative teams (he mentions it in 57:10) hell he even mentions Marvel was going to axe him and Andy before Thanos Imperative but they allowed them to finish it.


>>82025952
That wasn't exactly correct, Abnett said if allowed to continue he wouldn't have brought Rich and Peter back from the death but that he would at least explained what happened to them.

>>82025999
>the have folding chairs in their offices.
Kek.

>>82005862
Good. Let it die then be reborn.

>>82024755
TWS does.

>>82005862
Bendis is such an uninspired hack he pretty much lifted up shit from Star Wars

>Compared Groot and Rocket to R2D2 and C3-PO
>Compared Peter Quill to Han Solo
>Briefly turned Knowhere into a desert planet until the movie came out and then made it back into a Celestial head but kept comparing it to Mos Eisley and even added a sandy section to Knowhere in his SW tie-in.
>Had Peter's jerk dad become a villain and compared their relationship to Vader and Luke.

It's incredible how he keeps selling but I guess those who buy his shit deserve it.

>>82008767
The movie made a shit-ton without having any connection to earth. The movie is based on comics that made a point not to be connected to earth. The comics just keep taking steps in the wrong direction. Making comics based on movies based on comics.

>>82023945
>>>Skottie Young gone from Rocket & Groot
>Probably wanted to move on
Confirmed by himself: http://skottieyoung.com/post/143091006631/farewell-rocket-and-groot

Now watch the physical sales of the next issues go down to the cancellation level.

>>82026663
Can i get a source on this? I feel the need to look into it more and scoff.

>>82025925
>2.99
It's beautiful

Being a pre-reboot fucking guardians of the galaxy fan is suffering.

I just get to keep watching them rape it over and over again.

>>82007931

Bendis, probably. He's not entirely wrong.

Movie success =/= Comic success. Most it's ever done was increase sales of trades briefly in the aftermath of the movie coming out.

>>82027111
It's going to take me a long ass time to get all of them so here's some of them.

>http://marvel.com/news/comics/20134/guarding_the_galaxy_rocket_raccoon_groot

>He and Rocket [Raccoon] are kind of like the R2-D2 and C-3PO of the Marvel Universe.


>http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/bendis-deodato-launch-guardians-of-knowhere-during-secret-wars

>"When I hear my kids or my kids' friends talk about it, they talk about it the way we used to talk about Mos Eisley," said Bendis, referencing the seedy "Star Wars" locale. "Remember, before the special edition, you didn’t really see any Mos Eisley, you heard them talking about the scum and villainy [and you thought], 'I want to go where the scum and villainy is!' And it's the same mindset, and very exciting to present a modern version of that to all the people that love the Guardians so much."

Couldn't find him comparing Peter to Han Solo but I found him comparing Peter to Luke Skywalker

>http://www.comicbookmovie.com/guardians_of_the_galaxy/brian-michael-bendis-on-marvel-now-guardians-of-the-galaxy-a75641

>I had this idea of one of the Guardians being an Earth member. It seemed like that would be a cool thing to do and would say a lot more what the book is. It'd be so easy for any of them to do otherwise [than be a hero], but instead they're being selfless. That's pretty cool. You look at Star-Lord and once you find his origin story, there you go, man. He's our Luke Skywalker.

>>82006778
why is the thing and venom in space?
I mean, I know why
BUT WHY

>>82027308
you could just stop watching them

>>82027528
One more that I found

>That’s why they ended up offering me the book when they wanted to re-do these characters for the comic book audience. I would get so passionate during the conversations about what these characters are capable of. On page and on screen, this is Marvel’s Star Wars in the best sense. For those who are old school fans of Guardians, the difference I’ll be bringing to it is less of the hardcore sci-fi driven plot, and more about the characters.

>http://www.westfieldcomics.com/blog/interviews-and-columns/interview-brian-michael-bendis-on-marvels-guardians-of-the-galaxy/

Honestly that whole article is a riot, he compares his version of J'Son to Norman Osborn and Lex Luthor, lol.

>>82024899
Why are you writing like a Redditor?

>>82005862
>How do you manage to kill your new mega franchise this fast?

Movies don't effect comic sales long term. Marvel released 70 fucking books so a lot of quality books got drowned in a sea mediocrity

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>>82005862

I think the success of GoG took Marvel's comic department by surprise. They didn't just put their worst writers one it, that was a coincidence, they actually put their fastest or most easily reassigned writers.

The result was the epitome of what is a problem with marvel after hitting that movie oil: They were writing whatever crap would fill 22-pages and get it out the door on time. That's a generalization but for the most part it's accurate.

>>82005862
It started with Bendis turning it to shit, just as befitting for him to land the fatal blow.

>>82024755
>Doesn't hold up on repeated viewings.
Ignoring the fact that it pretty much does, OP was talking about comic books. The overexposure comment was about there being too many spin-off books for any of them to truly succeed.

>>82024755
>Doesn't hold up on repeated viewings.
Not what I've found.

>>82005862
Contrary to popular belief, movies do not bring in new readers, and attempting to pander to the movie audience never works.

Pandering to the Tumblr crowd, on the other hand...

>>82005862
Bad writing on every book

>>82024180
>tfw Dick Rider will never return because James Gunn hates him for some reason

>>82029381
It sucks that the only reason he said was "I don't like the helmet", but the helmets we saw in the movie suck ass

>>82027565
Bendis got first pick in the Fantastic Four is canceled draft, and Marvel has no clue what made Venom popular in the 90's so they're throwing shit on a wall to see it anything will stick.