Rereading through Homestuck and I keep questioning myself: What

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We'll never fucking know, send emails to what pumpkin asking for a SBURB guide, it's all that might work

>>81995898
Well from what the story presented us
Blood makes you weak and have an unsatisfying character arc
Rage makes you prone to violent lapses in mental stability for no reason
And Doom grants you the ability to be pessimistic about shit I guess

I don't know why he didn't elaborate further on these considering one major character and one somewhat less major character had them as their aspect and everyone else got better treatment

Andrew never gave much of a shit about those things. The point was to create a creation myth. Andrew's great idea was to have four characters with basic characteristics and a detailed plan of the game and how the creation itself would work and then let fans / the community and their opinions dictate how the characters interacted and develop. It was always going to end the way it did. The journey to get there was the fan input.

can someone give me the URL of the liveblogger?

What the fuck happened to Gamzee? Seriously. He went from being a stoner joke to an intimidating antagonist, and then for no reason Hussie decided to make him mute, and he didn't speak for a while. The time he spoke after that he just shouted random slang and swear words. Then the last thing he said in comic was "Terezi stop you're motherfuckin hurting me" in his old quirk for some reason.
Why did Hussie change Gamzee so much, how is it possible to make a plot device a background character?

>>81996118
honl

>>81995898

Pretty sure you can chalk some of Gamzee's bullshit up to Rage powers.

Also Sollux literally heard the voices of the doomed.

Blood is a total mystery though, as is the Mage class. Some other classes are also not really explained but at least have evidence in the comic to base theories on, like Heir, Witch and Maid.

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So of all the characters who make it into the new universe at the end of the story (lets include Aradia/Sollux/Vriska for fun), who is the most likely one to go rogue and turn on the rest?

HARD MODE: no Vriska
NIGHTMARE MODE: no Karkat

Looking back at Homestuck, I don't think I particularly enjoyed any part of it besides that one bit where the Gangster guy murdered a fucking house full of Card Themed Henchmen

>>81996241
vriska is dead, fell into the black hole

I'd say terezi

>>81996261
The Intermission should have been s=6

>>81996241
WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THIS
John "unload a mag in a fag" Egbert will always be there, wherever they go

>>81996118
As always, Hussie was a hack and didn't have the resolve to deliver.

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I've got some questions too.

For example, what the fuck happened to the alpha kids after sealing Caliborn?

Also, how can DaveJade be an endgame ship when Dave was sleeping with his head on Karkat's lap on the meteor? I really like the idea of DaveJade but we never saw Dave and Jade even touch each other (while they were both alive, anyway). Is it even possible to sleep on another guy's lap in a non-gay way?

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>>81996261
>>81996308

FUCKING DAVE

FUCK YOU WHY DID YOU KILL SPADES HE WAS LEGITIMATELY THE ONLY REASON I WAS READING THIS COMIC

>>81996334
>Dave was supposed to kill Lord English
>Instead he killed Spades Slick
Wrong gang leader, dumbass.

>>81996334
>Implying Spades didn't know what Dave was about to do
What else could he have been doing besides holding B2 Jack still

Regardless of your thoughts on Homestuck, would you read/watch whatever Andrew makes next?

(More specifically, his next non-homestuck project since it sounds like he'll be making Homestuck-related stuff for a few years still)

>>81996261
I enjoyed like half of it at least, but that intermission was the best part of the story. Everything about it is perfect and it marks the last real segment of "real" MSPA

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Reminder that the intermission was the best part.

>>81996452
Yes, because this time he probably learned from his mistakes.

The problem is that PS was relatively unambitious and too good so he didn't learn much besides animation from it, since it was almost flawless.

>>81996469
The original music for that flash is way better than the current one imo

>>81996079
http://fuckingletmehaveaname.tumblr.com

>>81996266
Aradia can still save her ass.

>>81996469

Man. I can't even reread Acts 1 - 4. I'm still pissed about the music changes.

Like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WxeWeW6Cjo

>>81996513
implying aradia doesn't want to die because the god of time demands it

>>81996266
>>81996513
If Vriska and Sollux are dead, then so are the Beta Kids coming out of the Juju.

>>81996326
Who gives a fucking shit? Karkat will always be a shitty cuck ship character and I am sad how Hussie turned him into this crap.

>>81996326
>to sleep on another guy's lap in a non-gay way?
Honest answer? Yes.

But to be fair, they kept saying I was cute, so they may have let it slide on that point alone.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE BUT I KNOW THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE

YOU'RE LIKE STEPHEN KING. WHEN I READ THE ENDING TO THE DARK TOWER, IT WAS LITERALLY

>LOL HE ENTERED THE TOWER SHOUTING PEOPLE'S NAMES

AND THEN HE HAS THE AUDACITY TO BERATE YOU FOR WANTING A SATISFYING CONCLUSION AND WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT AND INTERESTING INSIDE. FUCKING BELITTLING YOU FOR HAVING CURIOSITY AND SPOUTING SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT HOW
>THE JOURNEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE DESTINATION

WELL GUESS WHAT?!

YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG AND EVERYONE WHO THINKS LIKE THAT IS WRONG! THE POINT OF A JOURNEY IS TO GET TO A DESTINATION YOU WANTED BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULDN'T UNDERTAKE THE JOURNEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!

IF I FOLLOWED THAT LOGIC THEN MY GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE DIED MUCH EARLIER BECAUSE I WOULD'VE GONE FOR HIS INSULIN BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING TO THE PHARMACY, I WOULD'VE MET INTERESTING PEOPLE, AND HAD TEENAGE DRAMA PROBLEMS AND MAYBE GOT INTO A FIGHT, AND NEVER MADE IT TO MY DESTINATION, AND COME BACK A WISER MAN.

BUT GUESS WHAT?!

MY FUCKING GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE BEEN STILL DEAD BECAUSE I NEVER MADE IT TO MY FUCKING DESTINATION!

SO YES, I AM COMPARING THIS SHIT TO MY GRANDFATHER DYING BECAUSE IT'S METAPHORICALLY THE SAME THING. AND YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT IF YOU SUPPORT THIS.

The only thing. THE ONLY FUCKING THING that makes this all better is that I only joined the bandwagon a month ago. If I had invested more time in this, I would've felt bad. Now, NOW I can just go on with my life. But I feel so bad for other people, who ARE actually invested in this.

SON OF A MOTHERFUCKING FUCK I AM STILL FURIOUS!

>>81996524
No, she's very much alive and intending to stay that way.
And she also wants to see everything break apart.

>>81996532
yes, and?

>>81996548
this shitpost would be good except it spoiled the ending of the dark tower to me, god damn, I know I have no excuse to be so late

>>81996326
>Dave was sleeping with his head on Karkat's lap on the meteor?
So?
> Is it even possible to sleep on another guy's lap in a non-gay way?
Are you serious?
Have you never fallen asleep when you watch movies with friends?
It doesn't seem gay at all.

>>81996241
>NIGHTMARE MODE: no Karkat
How the fuck will he go rogue?

>>81996326
>Also, how can DaveJade be an endgame ship when Dave was sleeping with his head on Karkat's lap on the meteor?

Dave and Karkat are pale for each other. Obviously.

>>81996549
that was three years ago, and she finally got her death wish

>>81996548
oh look, this is being used as pasta now

>>81996615
I think the anon assumed Karkad would go ER after not being in a relationship with Dave, Jade or Terezi.

>>81996662
>Karkad
I don't know what happened.

>>81996548
>IF I FOLLOWED THAT LOGIC THEN MY GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE DIED MUCH EARLIER BECAUSE I WOULD'VE GONE FOR HIS INSULIN BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING TO THE PHARMACY, I WOULD'VE MET INTERESTING PEOPLE, AND HAD TEENAGE DRAMA PROBLEMS AND MAYBE GOT INTO A FIGHT, AND NEVER MADE IT TO MY DESTINATION, AND COME BACK A WISER MAN.
dan this bit is just so great

>>81996615
>Aranea tells us that the Sufferer remembered his Beforus life before the scratch happened and he was opposing to Condy's rule
>the glorious implication that Beforus Karkat was a massive asshole to Feferi's rule how everyone was cuddled and pampered
Don't worry, that's just shitty theorizing and Karkat's character arc is already dead as fuck.

>>81996452
Probably

>>81996326
Who said Dave/Jade is endgame?

>>81996452
My instinct would be "Yes of course.", but I think it depends on just what manner of shitshow Hiveswap ends up being.

Basically everything we've seen from the very start has pointed to it being a Telltale clone. And all those games SUCK. If that's the kind of game WP has decided they want to make, and Hussie is all-in to making WP work as a game studio, I'm out.

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Guys I'm back on Myststuck and I really don't wanna go through it all over again.

fuck act 6 FUCK ACT SIIIIIX

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>>81996910
>complaining about the last good walkaround
>complaining about puzzles
fuck
you

>>81996926
to be fair that chewing sound is the worst

>>81996926
It's fucking boring garbage with shitty dialogue and the puzzles all suck dick. Slow shitty fuckhead bullshit fuck you.

>>81996938
just mute it and play dubstep or something

>>81996939
why don't you go play call of duty?

>>81996880
What points to it being a telltale clone? From what I've seen it looks like a standard graphic adventure, a genre telltale bastardizes, but can be done well.

>>81996979
all adventure games are telltale now

>>81996965
rather play mechanarium or botanicula or actually good puzzle games with focus on characters instead of shitty fuckhead baby garbage act six more like act SHIT

call of duty is the lamest fucking comeback ever btw

>>81996716
Nice try, but the Ancestors have zero to do with the personality of the A1 trolls besides design (Cronus having two scars, Mituna liking like a pilot)

Besides Meenah and Condy though for some raisin

>>81996997
you don't need to tell me act 6 is shit, but myststuck was one of the good parts

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So why did he go full retard?

>>81997046
well I guess we RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE, motherfucker

>>81997085
I don't respect you bitch

>>81996979
I don't think they've made any mention of there being an inventory, for starters.

>>81997072
mimegoat fried his brain, by bringing about a situation where he had to over-exert his powers to protect the others

>>81997085
come at me bro I'll bring it on

>>81997034
Kankri and Karkat both lecture others at agonizing lengths; Karkat has enough self-awareness to eventually shuts up.
Rufioh and Tavros are pushovers; Tavros can put the brakes on before he falls into bed with someone.
Mituna and Sollux are both spazzes; Sollux can keep a lid on it most of the time.
etc etc etc

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>>81997115
Come on, man.

>>81997072
My theory is that Mime used chucklefuckvoodoos to mindrape Cronus and forcwd him to go out of control like Jake but more bardily and Mituna had to stop the hope bard from destroying everything. Kurloz and Mituna aren't actually moirails, he just controls Mituna and thats why he "talks normal around Kurloz"

>>81997201
That has to be a fake screenshot.

>>81996222
blood is friendship and teaming up with people eg blood pacts

see: karkat first meeting jack

then in his chat with kanaya near the end he talks about his drive to support his friends and such

in actuality though classes and aspects are probably just "however they can be interpreted" going by calliope logs

>>81997201
But they decided to scrap all progress and started from scratch with 2D graphics, yes?

>>81997227
>Blood is friendship
Nah, that's Breath.

>>81997244
yeah. But that doesn't remove the fucking inventory

>>81997254
how is breath friendship

i haven't re-read in ages but my recollection of breath is just "windy thing" and john warping everywhere and doing what he wants

>the whole meteor trip went to shit when Aradia and Tavros died
JUST

>>81997121
>>81997221
If Scratch didn't exist, who turned Kurloz?

>>81997296
in any case if blood isn't friendship / working as a team when shit gets real then it's probably fighting spirit since that's what karkat assumed

but karkat is also implied to be wrong about everything about sburb/sgrub so i took that with a grain of salt

>>81997301
It actually all goes to shit the moment Dave sends Gamzee the ICP video.

>>81997310
Vast Honk triggering his loyality to LE.

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reminder that the rose kanaya conversations were the best part

>>81997334
Was it before or after Aradiabot exploded?

>>81996118
>Hussie decided to make him mute

This is a combination of two things: 1) He was never actually god-tier and unless there's at least one god tier character involved in the conversation, characters can't speak out loud. For most of act 6 there weren't any god-tier characters present, so he couldn't speak, and didn't seem interested in online conversations with people. And 2) : It seems like for most of Act 6 he was being directly controlled by Aranea, who didn't care for the way he spoke, so there was that.

>Then the last thing he said in comic was "Terezi stop you're motherfuckin hurting me" in his old quirk for some reason.

He was playing her. Pretending to be his "old self" so that she'd doubt herself in treating him like the villain he was. And the moment she allowed herself that moment of doubt, he capitalized upon it by brutally assaulting her.

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>>81995991
I really feel sorry for this guy, he seemed so into it

>>81997225
>>81997201
the UI is obviously a mockup, every object is a different resolution

>>81997444
Well, they still clearly want an inventory in the game.

How would you fix Hivebent's story if it became its own comic?

>>81996519

I still feel like Jade's replacement theme music, "The Beginning of Something Excellent" is a mild improvement over the already-splendid original music, but I agree that all of the other replacements are poor fits.

LONG LIVE KING KARKAT

>>81997500
It's not quite as good, but is more fitting for Jade's personality

How come Kurloz was so into his religion and Gamzee wasn't?

>>81997483
don't introduce the shallow characters and kill them during the session

>>81997597
Lord English was fucking around in Beforus.

>>81997310
Kurloz received a vision while dreaming which caused him to go full on evil and take his religion more seriously.

>>81997648
probably English chucklevoodooing him through Cal

people give Gamzee a lot of shit as a plot device but considering English is partly him it makes sense that he uses him as a pawn

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>>81997648
was that the night he HONKed so loud it made Meulin deaf?

>>81997714
That or Kurloz received his vision through a dream? Maybe he had already died and used up his Prospit self? Or somehow fell asleep as both his waking and dreaming self? Since chucklevoodoos seem to be rather more subtle (the Highbloods in the A2 universe using it to control the populace, I believe?) in their use.

>>81997726
Yep.

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>>81997483
>1. Introduce Karkat first, but make Terezi the main character instead of the shitty girlfriend character
>2. Karkat, Terezi, Kanaya and Vriska are the main protags, Aradia, Sollux and Tavros are secondary protags who also help the plot, Gamzee and Eridan are the janitor assholes who kill the minor trolls
>3. Keep Vriska as the anti-hero character
>4. Revive Aradia and let her join the session
>5. It turns out that Karkat is also an asshole and wants to become the next tyra- leader of Alternia
>6. Vriska kills Tavros
>7. Terezi brings Gamzee to justice, Kanaya kills Eridan
>8. Terezi kills Karkat (Law Path) / Terezi kills Vriska (Chaos Path) / Terezi kills both of them (Neutral Path)
>9. Terezi faces YHVH (a floating homestuck symbol head) with Kanaya, Aradia and Sollux, postponing trollkind's fate and resetting the universe (Neutral Path)
>10. Call Hussie a hack for ripping off the plot of a jrpg

>>81997726
yup. cut out his tongue and sewed his lips shut in guilt for doing so

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>>81997832

>>81997832
This is something.

You can make a lot of money betting with a new reader about who ends up with John

you can even spoil that it's someone in the first few acts (technically)

>>81997201
>characters will have sylladexes
>they are all just Array with collision detection

>>81997954
Roxy and Mom are different. Just like how Dualscar wasn't a faggot greaser.

>>81997201
is that a fucking sarswapagus key

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>>81997296
>doing what he wants
Not this shit again.

>>81996486
Wut?

>>81998015
It fucking is
>Joey finds it floating in space wherever LE left it
>She takes it for a joyride

>Karkat was wrong
>Blood is LITERALLY your blood and so he never fucking used it

>>81997989
Hopefully, you get to choose, so you can have a completely frustrating modus to work with so you get the True Homestuck Experience™.

>>81998032
Bolin did the original music for [S] Midnight Crew: Act 1031 and Hussie changed it when he left.

>>81998009
A) If Hiveswap is anything to go by, Young Mom is Roxy down to her fucking shirt choice
B) They're LITERALLY the same person, just raised differently Cronus + Alternia = asshole pirate instead of douche wizard)

>>81998059
>Kankri could shoot blood from his eyes like Dio

>>81998123
It's like Deadman Wonderland

>>81995991
i don't get it

>>81996241
but Roxy is already a rogue

>>81998303
well shit, you solved the pasta

>>81998074
Bolin asked Hussie to remove all his music from the comic when he left the music team.

>>81996585
He didn't even mention the infinite time loop Roland is in

>>81995898
Heh, say what you will about homestuck, there is some Morrison level hypercrisis shit in it

>>81997201
So what is everyone's opinions on it switching from 3D to 2D?

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>>81998915
I'm so FUCKING SICK and TIRED of this HYPER CRISIS HOMESTUCK worship SHIT

It doesn't mean ANYTHING compared to JRR Tolkein

FUCKING

NOTHING

Let's ignore the fact that LoTR came first, and is a major inspiration of almost EVERY fantasy series after it.

Do you know the shit JR Tolkien did to make Lord of the Rings? He made THE ELVISH FUCKING LANGUAGE

A NUANCED LANGUAGE

WITH FUCKING PARTIAL IMPERFECT TENSE

A GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT, COHERENT LANGUAGE

AND ON THE BASIS OF THAT LANGUAGE, AND SEVERAL OTHER FUCKING LANGUAGES, HE MADE THE HOBBIT

YES

HE WROTE THE LANGUAGE BEFORE THE FUCKING STORY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_constructed_by_J._R._R._Tolkien

BEFORE THE FUCKING PREQUEL STORY TO THE LORD OF THE RINGS, HE WROTE A LANGUAGE

HE WROTE A FUCKING GIGANTIC BACKSTORY, TOO

WITH GODS, AND DEMONS, AND ANGELS, AND SHIT THAT MAKES THE THEOGENY LOOK LIKE AMATEUR HOUR

AND ONLY THEN

ONLY AFTER CREATING SEVERAL FUCKING LANGUAGES

DID HE WRITE THE PREQUEL

YES

THE FUCKING PREQUEL

TO THE LORD OF THE RINGS

AND HERE YOU ARE

YOU FILTHY, FUCKING PLEBIAN

TRYING TO TELL ME THAT ANDREW HUSSIE'S LATEST MS PAINT ABORTION

IS THE SAME CALIBUR OF WRITING

AS THE MAN

WHO MADE

SEVERAL

FUCKING

LANGUAGES

KILL YOURSELF

SERIOUSLY

KILL YOUR FUCKING SELF

SOMEONE PUTS EFFORT INTO SOMETHINBG AND CREATES A MASTERPIECE, AND YOU SEE IT THE SAME AS THE SHIT A 9-5ER SPEWED OUT IN MS PAINT

>>81996508
I wish I could go back and read Homestuck for the first time. Then have someone block the website for me once act six starts. This dude's reactions are pretty on point.

>>81996548
Classic.

>>81995898
Blood is linked the the ties of leadership, Karkat never shows any real power because his role is to come after the end of the story
Rage is a very simple one, it is linked to either the controlling or release of rage for power
Doom is the most nebulous, from what I can tell it is about the timelines, a Doom players job is to manage the Doomed Timelines (for example Meenah being the one to kill her friends and allow a timeline with a chance at winning the game to exist)

>>81996354
He killed SS who was being possessed by and basically was another LE

>>81999077
This doesn't really work out of the original context.

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>>81999077
>the fellowship wouldn't have beaten Sburb

>>81999064
I wanted it to be 2D in the first place, I can't complain. Other than the fact they wasted all that time making it 3D.

>the Condesce's gams
Is there a finer pair on Alternia, Earth, Derse, or any other world?
>you will never peel that wetsuit off of her

>>81999077
Tolkien never made a Flash animation, what a hack.

>>81999163
>Meenah

>Doom

>tfw no Roxygf

Why did nobody use Red Miles after DD?

>>81999376
Fuck, I don't know what I was thinking, got my wires crossed
There goes my Doom theory, but the other two still hold

>>81999468
Why didn't Hussie use DD after Red Miles?

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http://mspfanventures.com/?s=12003&p=403
okay, this is the point of that fanventure when i can't even open actual MSPA anymore
this thing is so much better than whatever Hussie called an ending

>>81999553
>Why didn't Hussie use DD after Red Miles?

>hack

>>81999541
If you wanna believe the aspect duality theory and that life and doom are paired, then if she stole all their lives, she would have left them doom

>>81999589
> this guy

>>81999589
HELL YEAH HOMESTUCK IS A COMIC ABOUT EVERYTHING GOING RIGHT AND EVERYONE SORTING OUT ALL THEIR PROBLEMS WITH NO JOKES OR GOOD DIALOGUE L O V E THIS FAN ENDING

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>>81999589
DDOTA FUCKING SUCKS

>>81999642
The aspect duality theory has some major holes
Besides, it's Doom/Hope not Doom/Life

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>>81996326
Davejade has been endgame from the start

>>81999768
Mother nature
and father time

>>81999730
I thought it was Hope/Rage? Given the focus on positive vs negative emotions respectively.

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What's with this page? Did Hussie want to make a Midnight Crew story?

>>81999829
Sky Father, Earth Mother

John/Jade confirmed

>>81999730
dude it's doom/time. that's why doom is a damaged cog

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>>81999768
Oh hey, his desk is a plank of wood on some cinder blocks

>>81999865
Nobody fucking uses that

>>81999730
Except it's literally Doom/Life, rtfc

>>81996334
>>81996354

jack noir is literally never a good guy

does anyone have the AROUND JACKS NEVER RELAX picture

from the guys who brought you "the Trolls should've been the villains"

comes a NEW kind of shitpost

>>81999730
>>81999866
It's LITERALLY Doom/Life, UU says so.

>>81999768
Yeah this.
Davekat was a last minute thing Hussie had to stay relevant. Once it was obvious that wasn't working, he dropped it like the sack of shit it was and resumed the original, better Dave ship.

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>>81999899
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_father

>>81999866
DESU that's a quality shitpost.

Time and space being connected is the only one confirmed in the comic.

>>81999905
>>81999931
Fill me in or link the page because I cannot remember her talking about Life/Doom duality at all

>>81999966
Time and Space are the only aspects that matter, period. All of the others are even completely optional to a session. Sburb is very poorly thought out and you can tell Hussie completely lost interest in it past a bunch of programming jokes with getting a session set up once Act 4 ended.

>>81999960
>sun god
So Rose

>>82000030
Light has nothing to do with Celestial Bodies


Which is a shame because that would have been interesting

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>>82000016
>Time and Space are the only aspects that matter

Damn right

>>82000030
>thinking light is in any way connected to actual Light

>you don't need him
>it turns out that Terezi doesn't need THEM

>>82000100
By him he meant Andrew Hussie

>>82000100
it was the dragon

>Ancestors created as a way to illustrate what the trolls would have been like had they grown up on Alternia instead of being pressganged into Sgrub and destroying their world (and as a way to poke fun at languid fanfiction about trolls)
>Redglare outright referred to having the foresight of a Seer, the Condesce's entire character grew out of Feferi's Witch title (and she was referred to as a witch herself long past Meenah's existence), etc.
>Beforus trolls come along
>Suddenly, their classes are different just because
>Now we have the Ancestors' Ancestors having to serve the original Ancestors' purpose
>We never see them, which is more a blessing than anything
Hussie shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a keyboard and left to his own devices like this ever again.

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>>82000100
>Terezi literally didn't even know that humans, let alone Dave, existed at that point
>decides to completely abstain from any form of romance just to be safe

(Terezi) had very little faith in the intelligence of her past self. No wonder she got along with Karkat so well.

>>81999768
>>81999829
Harley-Davidson

>>82000204
Exactly. It's destiny, even if they didn't want each other.

>>82000190
The ancestors have no ancestors

their classes changed to fit their descendants

>>82000072
>Dave and Jade effectively ran their own session for a while
God dammit

>>81999729
>>81999691
It fucking sucks and feels nothing like HS, but I just need an ending. ANY ENDING.

>>82000355
epilogue

> any of these aspect powers
Sufferer used Seer of Blood powers to know Beforus.

homestuck will never end kid

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>>82000355
>>82000451

>>81995991
> asking for a SBURB guide
Speculations are miles above anything that Hussie could pull at this point.

>The readers care way too much about this dumb, vague video game and how it works. Heh, I know, I'll have the titles amount to nothing but colorful pajamas at their highest tiers instead of all the RPG equipment they draw the players in all the time, that should shut them up.

>>82000517
god tier pajamas ruined one of the best things about Homestuck, alchemizing new gear

>>82000476
rachel said he's got detailed classpect notes, they're already done

We gonna be salty fags until the epilogue?

>>82000617
I always found it weird how the trolls who had God Tier would switch back to their normal attire but the kids just stayed with their God Tier jammies.


Also it upsets me more that they never upgrades their pajamas.

>>82000657
im honestly p chipper about the ending but im pretty sure anyone who isnt is gonna stay salty well past the epilogue

>>82000638
Well... He got detailed ending notes too years ago.

>>82000689
and they were shit only because they didn't fit with the actual story
but classpects shouldn't have the same problems

>homestuck
>BAAAWWWWW THEY DIDN'T SOLVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS
>ddota
>BAAAWWWWW THEY SOLVED TOO MANY PROBLEMS

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO BE HAPPY HSG

>>82000665
humans change clothes in normal life though. its implied that all troll kids wear the same shit all the time and fashion eg. kanaya is considered kinda odd. given that it makes sense that theyd even take off their god tier stuff to put on the same clothes theyre used to

>>82000713
classpects already have all those problems, any self-contradiction in the classpect system is waved away as an exception

>>82000638
Why the FUCK is he keeping them to himself

>>81998219
New reader starts reading homestuck
They actually love it and pick up on some neat shit and inadvertently show us some foreshadowing we never saw as non-archive readers
They hit the end of Act 4 and claim they want to finish the whole comic while riding high on [s] Descend
They get to the troll introduction and immediately tap out since they pretty reasonable haven't enjoyed the troll stuff up to that point

>>82000713
>birth of the new universe
>ambiguous LE death
>birth of LE
>kids winning the game

No I'm pretty sure he planned that out years ago.

Though he started thinking of the epilogue when he realized people would hate the ambiguities.

>>82000657
Are you implying that an epilogue will actually make people less salty?

>>82000772
> some foreshadowing
what foreshadowing?

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>>82000745
ddota is bad cuz not funny

homestuck is fucking off the wall and inconsistent as fuck and always has been but you're always carried through by the jokes which are REALLY GOOD. the story flat out doesnt work if you try to play it straight

>>82000809
Hey as long as davekat stays sunk in it I'll be happy

>>82000772
>we will never hear from them again

>>82000809
If Hussie continues to pretend that he doesn't need to show the ending, then yes, I will still be salty

Wait, what's this about DOTA?

>>82000823
>you're always carried through by the jokes which are REALLY GOOD
Most of the jokes aren't that funny especially when you see them repeated 3 times over and have to wade through mounds of garbage to get to them.

>>82000772
im p sure it was a joke pal. they were goin to bed and as the end of the first 'book' descend is good place to leave the story

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>>82000816
off the top of my head

>>82000617
Imagine all the outfits they could have alchemized after getting their jammies.

>>82000870
are you joking. did you read the whole thing? all 8000 pages of this fucking shrine to excess? i literally cannot understand how someone can make it through homestuck without finding the jokes funny

do you intentionally torture yourself? this comic IS the jokes. the whole thing is a fucking joke. every plot point and twist is another joke.

>>82000823
Homestuck basically wasn't funny during Act 6 except for during Meteor/Yellow Yard intermissions and Caliborn. So, like, half of Homestuck is just unfunny and barely readable.

The Condesce would have won her battle if she came out naked
Rose, Kanaya, John, and Roxy would all be completely distracted and fail.

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What are the odds of getting a newspost tomorrow?

>>82000999
one can only wish, anon

>>82000957
Don't be a baby, man. If Homestuck were an 11 minute cartoon, it wouldn't get bad until around the 8th minute. The updates don't go nightmare mode on your ass until post-Game Over.

>>82001007
oh god tomorrow is 4/20
better make plans to leave the house all day

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>>82001007
Explain this meme to me.

>>82000999
nice double trips

>>82000956
>its irony bro
I make somewhat of a habit to read bad webcomics and Homestuck is one of the top in that regard.
You can't say that the comic is entirely jokes when it takes itself as seriously as it does. Thats just plain bad writing.
Its an 8000 panel shrine of circlejerking and jewishness aimed at retards.
You aren't as creative or funny as you think you are, Hussie.

>>82001058
this confirms we're getting a naked condesce fight right

>>82000956
But none of the jokes are funny

>>82001054
http://chickensnack.tumblr.com/tagged/dogs someone really liked drawing dogs. Tuesday again? No problem................. dog was one of them. It was popular enough that people made edits of it.

>>82001074
Hussie is a creative genius and can write dialogue and worldbuilding with the best of them. He's at the top of that game today.

The catch is he is absolutely fucking abysmal at Writing with a capital W to a degree that soils his achievements

>>82000999
>Rose, Kanaya, John, and Roxy would all be completely distracted and fail.
Rose, Kanaya, and John WERE distracted. Why else do you think that Roxy got the kill?

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>>82000999
Post Condie

>>82001038
Yeah but it's not an 11 minute cartoon, it's one of the biggest works of fiction in the English language. So I'm not suffering through three minutes, I'm suffering through three years.

You are right about post-Game Over being nightmare mode, but it only went from bad to worse at that point.

>>82000469
After that ending, I'm inclined to say that Problem Sleuth is Andrew Hussie's magnum opus, and not this heaping pile of shit.

>>82001149
What kind of lover do you think she'd make? Keep in mind she utterly dwarves any human.

>>82001128
In the end, it was Roxy's overwhelming straightness that saved her life.

>>82001106
Oh yeah, now I remember. Thanks!
>>82000999
Adult trolls are all canonically black as fuck, so Condy was basically wearing the world's most revealing one-piece swimsuit ever.

>>82001193
I think that I want her to peg me.

>>82001074
>I make somewhat of a habit to read bad webcomics

yeah youre retarded i guess. theres skimming through moon over june and then theres reading through the entirety of one of the longest pieces of fiction in english. this isnt a habit this is some kind of self-harm addiction.

>its irony bro

well, um, hm, like, yes?

>>82001213
Adult trolls are still grey, it's just that Hussie never let up on the silhouette stylization for them. One of the panels with the adult Handmaid shows her with grey skin in order to illustrate that she's wearing stockings. You clearly see her hand.

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>>82001149
posting large fish wife

>>82001193
I want to think she'd be into some weird babying kink shit cus' Meenah thought Karkat was cute little munchkin, but in reality she'd probably just goosh your butthole open until you died.

>>82001244
Shut up, let me have this.

>>82001293
She married Colonel Sassacre in one universe and greatly appreciated John's comedy in another. I don't know what this means but she probably really likes corny old man comedy.

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>>82001149

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>>82001193
It depends on how you feel about being skewered by a real whale of a bulge

>>81997832
>vriska kills tavros
that already happened, desu

>>82001336
This is a good point, maybe she just likes curling up on the couch with you in her impossibly huge lap while you watch shitty movies and she plays with your hair and makes fun of your bald spot.

When did she show that she liked John's comedy, though? I don't remember that.

>>82001241
If the only long-winded, running joke to a 8000 panel monstrosity is "its supposed to be bad" that is fucking stupid and you're equally retarded for finding it funny in the slightest.
Homestuck is bad, whether it be intentional or not, Hussie is a shit writer.
>implying you can't skim Homestuck

>>82001336
Come to think of it, is it possible to extrapolate the Grand Highblood's sense of humor from that?

I probably shouldn't be telling you guys, this, but...the Condesce was almost the final boss of Homestuck, until Andrew decided Lord English had a more visually impressive presence in animation. This might have something to do with the anticlimax that was his battle.

>>82001462
>LE wasn't originally the final boss

Gee anon do you think you can drop more shocking revelations of this caliber? We genuinely had no idea

>>82001293
>babying
>goosh your butthole
all of my fetishes desu

>>82001462
I doubt that, and I also doubt you have anything to back it up.

>>82001193
She married Sassacre twice.
She loves clowns and baking.
She finds human sex repulsive.

>>82001431
What is this feeling
Why do I want this

Poppop Crocker was favored by the Condesce, it's part of Dirk's big talk about Earth's history-future with Jake.

This Serendipity gospel fanfic is the shit. Best goddam fanwork I've ever read.

>>82001462
this poster referred to Hussie by his first name, they must know him personally

So is livereader dead?

>>82001554
Yes. I hit him with my car this morning. Sorry you had to find out this way.

>>82001494
He deliberately confused most of the endgame ships so people could keep arguing about them.

>>82001500
"Not like this, Terezi." Remember this for me. You'll understand.

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>>82001554
>>82001574
Hard to say

>>82001213
Yeah, and adult humans all canonically have entirely blank faces with no features on them whatsoever. It's stylization, man.

>>82001496
Well, lucky you.

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>>82001445
i dunno man there were a lot of really good jokes in homestuck that i laughed a LOT at so i might be a retard but im a happy retard whos doing the things he loves

i feel bad for you that you apparently wasted a huge portion of your life reading this shit when you dont get it. gonna suggest you look for something you enjoy next time

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>>82001584
ROSE ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DESTROYED

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Please tell me we aren't going to go through this whole song and Dance for all 12 of the ayys

>>82001622
this is 4chan
we live for calling things shit on the internet

>>82001710
yes.

>>82001655
>Rose never learns any lessons or suffers a comeuppance for her behavior
>she even gets out of being hijacked by Horrorterrors because all their influence actually does to her is garble her speech, and going god tier cures it all
>she is never knocked down a peg
>she is only knocked up and pegged by Kanaya

>>82001710
I'm sorry, but I don't think you're going to enjoy the rest of the comic much.

>>82001710
we aren't going to go through this whole song and dance for all 12 of the ayys

we'll do it for 24

>>82001742
Real people don't have arcs.

>>82001764
Oh shaddap, there's some seriously cool shit in Acts 5 and 6.

>>82001742
First of all, she gets knocked down a peg like all the fucking time. She got played by Scratch, succumbed to the horrorterrors, become an alcoholic. Whole bunch of shit.

Second of all, she didn't even need to be knocked down a peg to begin with. She just acted playfully smug around Dave.

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Mom was a good mom.

>>82001710
this is not a song and dance liveblogger friend this is a fucking royal retard waltz soundtracked by the remixed screams of the damned themselves

by which i mean yes you are going to go thrugh this whole song and dance so many fucking times youll puke from the spinning

its worth though???? maybe?????

>>82001742
Fuck, don't remind me anon. At least John and Dave had some solid development later on, Dirk and Dave's conversations were a real highlight of act 6 for me.

>>82001710
There will be an introduction page for each, but really this is just an abridged story of their session, from start to finish, with only three of the Characters really being the focus.

Try and focus more on the world building

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>>82001710
So does Gamzee worship John since he's into a clown cult?

>>82001805
Imagine if Rose actually had to raise Roxy.

>>82001844
It's a bit more... convoluted than that.

>>82001805
She could have been better. But John will give Roxy a chance to redeem herself momwise

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Perfectly generic object throw pillows when?

>>82001857
Rose would be the most hands off/absent mother ever because she's afraid of doing things wrong and the only way she figures stuff out is by violently fucking up over and over again.

If Kanaya was the second mom they'd make a good team, though.

>>82001742
What is with all these newfriends who think Homestuck is a story about comeuppance

Rose got fucking wrecked earlier anyway

>>82001916
But anon, Homestuck is a story about comeuppance. The comeuppance is the reader's, for daring to go anywhere near Homestuck.

>>82001844
>miracle modus is LE lights

o-oh......

>>82001916
rose is a villain.

>>82001915
That'd just make it worse. Kanaya wouldn't know how to handle Rose being shit at moming because she comes from a civilization without it as a concept. Eventually the kid would just go to live with grandma roxy or something

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>>82001937
english doesn't have teal or cyan

>>82001904
>you'll never have sex with a roxy cosplayer inside a perfectly generic fort

should my davemom fic end with rose walking in or mom going to get a drink
or both

>>82001710
>KARKAT BECOMES THE VIRUS OF THE NEW UNIVERSE
GET HYPE FOR KING KARKAT

>>82001944
It's not like the concept of rearing children at all is completely alien to her, I'm sure plenty of Alternian wildlife reared their young. Her naturally fussyfang meddlesome behavior would make her a natural doting mother, while Rose would counterbalance it. At least, that's how I'd see it working out.

>>82001981
Fucking incredible.

>>82002007
The former. Both is acceptable, as long as Rose walks in.

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On a scale of 1 to 10 how mad to you think they'll be?

>>82001944
>not going to live with the most stable family, thei uncle Dave and aunt Jade

>>82002101
They'll stop reading before they get to that point.

>>82002114
Shit, now I want a Homestuck Family Reunion epilogue.

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>>82001844
Is that fucking ICP
Oh god is that fucking miracles video going to be like his bible?

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>>82002101
I'd expect disappointment more than anger, given how it was initially played in a similar tone and manner to John and Dad and Rose and Mom.

>>82002154
:o)

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>>82002154

I wonder if Andrew had decided on the God Tier outfits and their colors early on. The color matching-swapping of Dave/Jade and John/Rose, together with

"A realm where four will gather, the Heir of Breath and Seer of Light, the Knight of Time and Witch of Space, and together they will Ascend. "

John and Rose grouped together. Dave and Jade grouped together.

All of that makes me think he developed the colors at first in relation to potential endships. And then didn't bother to change them when he decided to go a different way with ships.

>>82002114
>burdening dave and jade with even more kids

>>81999163
terezi was the only one keeping doomed timelines in check

>>82002154
You've only scratched the surface of an incredibly convoluted mess, hope you like clowns.

>>82002154
In case it wasn't obvious, the trolls are all (very vaguely) based on internet subcultures/personalities. Karkat is the type that is always angry at things on the internet, and Gamzee is a Juggalo. (This was made in 2010 to be fair)

>>81999691
you must LOVE the deus ex machina canon ending then

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>>82002154
Was that video even out yet?
IS THIS MORE RETCON SHIT
GOD FUCKING CHRIST

>>82002181
This
Roxy will be glad to take on another kid after her womb became unusable

>>82002154
yo real talk people

was the icp miracles meme as big of a thing as it became before it was in homestuck? i know gamzee was only introduced a month or two after the video came out. i know a few homestuck jokes have blown up into memes that most people have no idea are related, but im not sure of the order of events here.

>>81996592
fuc k yeah it happens to me all the time man ! and when your friend is sleeping with his head on your lap and you put your hand on your friends shoulder while smiling like an idiot and watching a romcom ! now this is a real friendship

>>82002234
Yeah don't worry about a password for now.

>>82002234
Don't worry about it now, it'll make sense much later. I actually enjoyed this whole part of the story when I first read through but yes it is related to the whole retcon plot.

>>82002234
dont guess it just skip and carry on youll come to this way later

>>81999322
oh shit what classpects would they all have??

>>82001431
It's mentioned that Popop John turned out pretty well adjusted despite having Condy for a mom. Which people have taken to mean that she treated him pretty well.

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>>82002234
Okay this was pretty funny

>>82002312
Trolls honestly aren't that bad. I imagine it was awful having to wait for updates on these new characters after Descend though.

>>82002147
We'll at most get some sort of hook for the Homestuck TV show that's in development and a baby or two

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>>82002254
>treating fanart as canon

I guess jane is fat as shit

>>82002290
frodo is heir of doom :(

>>82002364
Not to mention it was drawn by someone who actively thinks Davekat is terrible and she's right

>>82002343
having to wait for things has almost always been the main problem archival readers had with whatever part of homestuck was ongoing at the time

>>82002290
Boromir- Bard of Rage

>>82002343
I started reading the comic once Descend dropped and honestly, act 5.1 wasn't that bad. The amount of updates that came out in a single day made it feel like we were moving along quickly. It really only got bad during the first hiatus, after the terrible quadrant explanation, and the hiatus before Make Her Pay. All in all, I had a lot of fun with Act 5.1. Especially with all the reactions from Vriska on HSG

>>82002397
Remember that guy who said that losing his arm was still better than Davekat

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>>82002312
Did the author have a girlfriend that stole his toilet?
Seriously what the hell

>>82002404
you mean serial readers

>>82002312
I KNEW YOU'D COME AROUND TO HER, I JUST KNEW IT.

>>82002404
>archival readers
uh, non-archival readers
what's the word for those?

>>82002343
i quit the comic first time through towards the end of a5a1, but when i came back recently and read through the whole thing it wasnt bad at all. at the time i was put off by the quadrant thing but now im a little more aware i see it as the dumb convoluted parody of shipping that it is and i like it

>>82002434
I want Rose to sexually steal my toilet

>[S] ACT 7 only has 400k views
That's... extremely disappointing.

>>82002435
yeah, that

>>82002246
>Roxy
>unusable womb

you take that back

>>82002343
No, it was great waiting for these. Remember how Equius was revealed, and then the perspective immediately changes out of fear? It's great. The hype for waiting for the next one to be revealed, along with their weapons and misc. shit was fun
Updates were also very regularly paced, with multiple ones each day sometimes. They were easy to do and the longer ones were usually because of logs.

>>82002460
serial readers

>>82002485
Compared to what?

>>82002485
Do you honestly care?

>>82002492
She gets one baby before it goes off, afterwards it's the Nagasaki of wombs, only an arch is left standing.

>>82002520
To a shitty Spanish Youtuber who gets 1M views in one day.

>>82002417

Looking at a moving average of 149 days, the highest average of any 149 day period is centered on the update where Equius got kissed by Aradia. That is the page of the greatest updates. It's all down hill from there.

>>82002520
probably compared to the millions cascade had almost immediately

>>82002498
There was plenty of "who's Rose" posting and the like going on, though.

>>82002417
I love that during the height of Homestuck 5 days counted as a hiatus.

>>82002553
Do you have any actual numbers for that?
Cause all I see is this.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/582345

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>>82002434
So these guys are all based off the zodiac right?
We've seen capricorn, cancer, libra, aquarius, and now this dude

>>82002492
Sorry man, but it's Jade who rocks the fertility. She'll be eight months pregnant and radiant, for Roxy, it'll be pain and suffering but so so worth it when she holds her baby in her arms

>>82002558
Bitch, that was NOTHING compared to how Jade was falling for 3 months, and then fell asleep.
We had the first, actual, hiatus when the first kiss happens too. I think that was when communism and maybe metastuck came to be. It took about 2 days for both to happen.

>>82002602
Yeah. Those designs on their shirts are astrological symbols, and there's the puns in their online handles.

>>82002598
i dont have any numbers, but keep in mind it was also hosted on the main site, and megaupload

oppa toby style is a good ass song

might as well repost this strawpoll i made from the end of the last thread
http://strawpoll.me/7414386

>>82002598
>Uploaded Oct 25, 2011 | 7:50 PM EDT
>108,680 Views

>>82002364
>I guess jane is fat as shit
Well, she's canonically at least chubby

>>82002668
caliborn is literally 4chan

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>>82002444
She still murdered John, so no not really.
>>82002602
I like Sollux though

>>82001981
That is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

>>82002485
It doesn't count embedded view iirc

>>82000957
Then why did you read it nigga?

>>82002712
Terezi and Sollux are two of the best trolls, mostly because they get shitloads of good moments and generally don't put up with shit.
Some trolls you'll hate so much, that others will look fantastic by comparison too.

>>82000895
Wow, a comic based around video game jokes made an old as shit video game culture reference, what amazing foreshadowing Hussie.

>>82002712
>Liveblogger isn't a filthy Terezi-Apologist

Nice