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I can't believe its not homestuck

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SBaHJ >Homestuck
Prove me wrong
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>>81987221
Literally no one disagrees with this
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>>81987221
I can't.
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>>81987221
SBaHJ > Problem Sleuth > Jailbreak > Kid Radd > Homestuck > Bard Quest

I think we can all agree on this.
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>>81987221
Objectively correct
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>>81985015
This
>>81986841
Though I disagree about tutorials, but they need to be done in the right context. You can't just brute force your way through a "learn to draw" handbook. You gotta start with drawing what you want to draw until you get frustrated enough by the fact that you can't draw something like eyes or feet or some shit. THEN you go do that one until you got it, then go back and draw it again and see the improvement

Just to show you that you're not alone in being shit, here's a picture of my proportion and hand studies
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>>81987279
Where would be AIDS on that
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Is this the new homestuck thread?

>>81987122
Thanks, I'll give that a shot - I love the aesthetic. You should do a tutorial thing sometime.
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John is the worst character in Homestuck, Jade at close second.

John is a bitch, and a slut.
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Why didn't John chaos dunk Caliborn when he had the chance?
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>>81987446
>CALIBORN IS DEAD
>Achievement unlocked: comic over
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>>81987406
You'll get no argument from me
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Are Kankri, Aranea, Cronus, Meenah and Damara the least popular characters of the group?

Except for Damara, because she got bullied hard by Fish Vriska and went insane.
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>>81987406
John is the best fuck you.

Jade is the cutest though.
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>>81987477
I'm glad we agree then
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>>81987487
>John is the best fuck you.

No he isn't.

>Jade is the cutest though.

No she's not.
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>>81987481
Isn't meenah the most popular beta troll?
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>>81987477
He got a (You) out of you
you faggot
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>>81987346
i really want to start an art patreon
mostly because im currently unemployed right now and it sucks
then i could do tutorials and draw streams on that maybe. and requests? homestuck drawings? original stuff?
what do most people get when they support an artist on patreon, other than the warm feeling inside?
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>>81987481
I love Meenah and Damara, I wish they'd gotten more screen time. The comic could have used more sassy troll ladies who wanted to stick their fat troll dicks in everything.
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>>81987328
>You gotta start with drawing what you want to draw
Anon I don't think you understand what zero art skill means
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deploying OTP
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>>81987526
Nope, she is just social. No one wants to be with her, except for Aranea, Vriska and maybe Karkat.
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>>81987406
oh

it's you again
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>>81987551
Requests are by far the most common

/co/ will viciously mock you for accepting shekels for something other drawfags do for free

On the other hand you get to eat and pay rent
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>>81987551
"free requests" but that's a curse in disguise for you because then you have shitloads of stuff you need to draw at your presumably highest quality
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>>81987481
Damara seems to be pretty popular, all things considered.
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>>81987551
>what do most people get when they support an artist on patreon, other than the warm feeling inside?
insider info usually, cut scripts and sketches, weekly updates, or the ability to ask questions directly to the artist
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Where's livereader anon at?
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>>81987585
I thought you were talking about the fandom
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>>81987551
Beats the hell out of me. Maybe start out doing some Homestuck style tutorials, maybe stream some shit, then switch to Patreon once you get a base?

I guess normally supporters get some special shit, like exclusive access and votes and so on.
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>>81987551
Never do free requests of homestuck art. The homestuck fanbase as it is now, deserves to be held behind paywall.
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liveblogger-chan where are you?
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>>81987551
Why not just make it a 'pay my fucking bills' patreon instead
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>>81986975
Holy shit
That was so fucking beautiful
It wasn't even like 3 minutes long and yet that was so much info
God damn
I can't believe WV was such a fucking Boss
Holy shit
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>>81987582
Why are they so perfect?
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>>81987659
this
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>>81987672
savour it because its the last cool thing he gets to do for the rest of the comic
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>>81987703
He has a some more good moments before he becomes a non-character later on.
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>>81987683
Homestuck's characters are several different flavors of expired bran, or expired tazo tea.

they taste like nothing, therefore, are not perfect.
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>>81987663
it may surprise you but i do not have a fuck huge following to rely on
and most patreons have rewards, so i just wanna get an idea of what people would be expecting me to offer

>>81987594
>/co/ will viciously mock you for accepting shekels for something other drawfags do for free
this is silly
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>>81987693
Please contain your salt.
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I am still really mad about the ending.
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>>81987745
take it from a friend of a friend who has a patreon. You'll be up to your eyeballs in monthly drawings.
Shen does it with drawings sub 25 and 2 characters a month at 50+ and shes able to reasonably handle it (and shes probably more popular with that lizard comic and all)
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>>81987746
This is like saying please contain your salt when every homestuck thread on co is mono lake
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>>81987805
add in Karkat_______GOT YOU
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>>81987672
You already know what ship kinda happens, don't deny it
or take a guess, at least
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>>81987813
Spades Slick lost his crew, most of his body, and died before he could avenge his casino.
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>>81987672
>wv uses a red flag to rally the troops to his cause
>karkat uses his red blood to rally jack to his side
GOD DAMMIT
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>>81987888
>John/Mom

SHUT IT DOWN
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>>81987745
As a poor and stingy person I am extremely ill equipped to tell you how to make money but I think a patreon would be a bit of a trap if you aren't providing a quantifiable service: e.g. updating your comic every regularly, tattooing homeless people, sending people fruit that you have carved into a tiny diorama
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>>81987565
fuckin draw stick figures jesus christ what am I your mom
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>>81987805
>survived
>the felt
I really Hope so

>>81987900
Who does dave rally with
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>>81987949
I dunno, are you?
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>>81987821
drawings being...drawings for drawings that is
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and they lived happily every after
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>>81987888
God Tier ships.
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>>81987943
goddamnit anon
way to spoil my spoiler
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>>81987975
>and they lived happily every after

READ

THE

COMIC
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>>81987970
Yes. Also you're adopted and I hate you
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>>81987975
>rose
>happily
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I think Homestuck would have been much better and more interesting if it went its original route of taking reader commands the entire way. (But then I guess that's impossible, because of the reason Hussie stopped taking reader commands in the first place.)
What if Act 7 was like, one ending of potential multiple endings, like a game?
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>comic over
>we can have unexplained aspects mean literally anything now
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>>81988012
Fuck
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>>81987565
PICK UP A FUCKING PENCIL AND DRAW SOMETHING, NO ONE EXPECTS THE SISTINE CHAPEL

J U S T

D O

I T
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>>81988027
Why did he stop taking reader commands in the first place?
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>>81987565
think of the think you wanna draw
do it with stick people
then do it again with blob people
then again with more defined shapes
study your mistakes, look up photos of things you're trying to draw and keep going
thats how you start
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>>81988006
I'm still convinced that's a different timeline because caliborn described himself as looking surprised
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>Characters who survived through the comic and deserve to enter the new universe:

John
Rose
Dave
Jade
Jane
Roxy
Dirk
Jake
Dad
Terezi
Kanaya
Aradia
Sollux
The Felt
WV
PM

Is this list correct? Keep in mind that I didn't list assholes like Worst Jack. Also I forgot to add two characters who contributed the most.
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>>81988080
>Retcon John

>different timeline
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The homestuck fandom does not deserve talented people to draw for them.
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>>81988057
because he wanted to tell a story and the reader wanted John to shove the disc up his ass
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>>81988102
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>>81988107
Yeah and you probably don't deserve to get raped in the mouth

And yet, here we are
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>>81988057
The comic got too popular for a "choose your adventure" type of comic and he thought it wouldn't be feasible with a gigantic fanbase (and thus literal tons of commands to weed through)
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>>81988045
Now that we have that's established, draw this and post it here

I can assume you can draw circles and lines, unless you have Parkinson in which case I'm gonna say what the fuck were you expecting
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>>81987888
yes, Rose and Dave are going to get married on a pile of smuppet asses, Davesprite will provide ill beats for the reception, John and Jade will be best (wo)man, and mom will say some embarrassing things when she catches the bouquet and oggles Dad, I feel it in my bones
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>>81988152
And he was wrong. How funny the comic started to go to shit the second he ended commands.
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What the fuck does Blood do?
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>>81988102
yeah, why not? we've seen during his retcon shenanigans that there could be multiple retcon johns
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>>81988166
is it okay if i use lined paper? i left my drawing notebook at home
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>>81987975
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>>81988151
I'm drinking tea and replying to this post.

John is the worst character in Homestuck, and basically Hussie's OC donut steal
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>>81988134
This happened before his Typheus choice which eliminated all other Johns
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>>81988125
So this is the final pasta, huh
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>>81988125
you forgot your pic, buddy
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>>81988216
it's paper isn't it? less talk more draw
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>>81988057
He said that when he was getting so many commands that they covered every possible course of action it wasn't any different from the normal writing process.
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>>81988204
Flanderization
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>>81988204
freedom
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>>81988204
Carries oxygen to the brain, dummy.

Carries BREATHE to the MIND. Karkat cucked himself.
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>>81988223
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>>81988204
w h o
k n o w s
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>>81988281
>implying
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>>81988302
We need a lewd edit.
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requesting giant gangbang timeclone orgy
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>>81988230
If by 'tea' you mean 'huge dicks slapping your tender mouth,' then yeah maybe

I won't even argue about whether John is a meme character with no personality because that's just a fact
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>>81988302
>>81988348
we need a LIES edit
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>>81987582
nahhh
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shitposting trip has nice ass?
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>>81988403
>that Terezi

i want her
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>>81988403
she looks more like a Kanaya than a Terezi
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>>81988182
>>81987672
I love Roses' new outfit
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>>81988235
is it ever explicitly said that he eliminates all johns, or did he eliminate the john that was in the timeline he was travelling to, so there wouldn't be a duplicate?
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>>81987406
>>81987525
>>81988230
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>>81988354
No I meant tea. It's peach cobbler flavored it's really good.


John is the worst character in Homestuck, his characterization is blank as a reader self insert while other characters became characterized basically below bare minimum to keep reader interest. Jade doesn't have this excuse, as she is a character introduced.

So I actually change my mind. Jade is the worst character in Homestuck with John in close second and the Cherubs in third.
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>>81988445
>That eldritch salamander plush on top of casey
Absolutely adorable
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>>81988454
vriska you're not even real you're just the shat out leavings of Terezi's beta plotline

you're half a fucking conceptual person
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>>81988445
Can't wait for these wands to in no way whatsoever backfire for Rose
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>>81988507
best panel, best caption
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>>81988450
all of them

theres only one
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>>81988507
Don't worry! They don't! Not a single fucking thing of any interest or consequence!
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>>81988501
>hating on the most based Zodiac
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>>81988501
Terezi is honestly one of the more irritating and unsympathetic characters in homestuck.
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>>81988507
I liked the white suit better tbhfam
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>>81988539
>that dave

JUST

>>81988554
you're not allowed to say correct things
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>>81988554
As she turned out yeah. She used to be cool and fun to hate before Vriska hollowed her out and got driven into the ground.
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>>81988562
>action pajamas

you dont think..
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>>81988588
>used to be cool

From a writing stand point any hypocrite who's friends with "criminals" as loosely as Hussie describes that term in whatever the fuck easily shat out fantasy barbarian society Hussie made for the Trolls, is a bad character, day 1, from origin, keyboard to screen, pin to paper.

When you make a society that idolizes murder of some kind and then make a character devoted to law never laid out in said society, you just have a loud obnoxious stick figure.
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>>81988043
WHY IS THIS SO LARGE
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>>81988562
Please let this be daves main weapon
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>>81988247
This feels like it was a big waste of time just so I could get made fun of on 4chan
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>>81988594
he got some action in those pjs
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>>81987406
john is the only character who stays true to his first draft, fuck you

>dave goes from cool guy to little abused bitch
>jade goes from potential character to mary fucking sue who gets hit once
>rose becomes a bland alcoholic before being the most intriguing character before act 6
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>>81988736
God I love that sbahj items are dogshit
>>81988747
You took the first step, now keep practicing
That's the secret, you cracked the code
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>>81988812
White suit is still cooler
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>>81988803
>john is the only character who stays true to his first draft, fuck you

This isn't a character trait. John has no defining character traits, no weaknesses, and no strengths.

He is literally blank for a reason, and surrounded by other characters made more, even if you disagree with choices made, is ultimately the worse character.

He holds no connection to Roxy even though their relationship is forced to throw shippers a bone to gnaw on.

John is without a doubt the worst character because he has always been designed to have none, and as time went by and nothing was made of it; all it did was become a matter of if this was an intentional stick to ground to not let the author/reader insert alienate, or if was shear laziness by the author.
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What is the best album and why is it Wanderers
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>>81988859
So did dave just trap a ghost image of his existence in a captcha card?
Like the card contains all of his data to remake him with enough grist?
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>>81988859
>the kids never made any sort of cool end game outfits alchemized from Godtier uniforms

I wanted Dave in a Time Tux was that so much to ask
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>>81988910
That's pretty much the gist of it. Captchaloguing and Alchemization is pretty neat.
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>>81988904
Because Carapacian Dominion
https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/carapacian-dominion
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>>81988910
Theoretically.
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>>81988910
Finally an actually useful item
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>>81988659
so you don't like vrisrezi?
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>>81987582
the only OTPs are the one with twincest
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>>81988956
Not really.
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>>81988910
>act 4 is so old that the word Selfie didn't exist then
Whoa dude
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>>81988951
DS just flies off into the sun during 3 years
ZAHACK
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>>81988951
>the only thing thats left to really do its watch that ass hole fall

and like a nancho party whose chips take fucking forever to fall, we waited 7 years to see the obvious
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>>81988897
>John has no defining character traits, no weaknesses, and no strengths.

he is silly and goofy. goofy is a weakness because he can't fix everything instantly and obviously regrets it

>no strengths
he fucking retcons the whole god damn universe he is overpowered
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>>81988910
yeah, but I guess using a captchalogue of yourself would be weird. I mean, what kind of person would the heart to deal with a copy of themselves once they've been made?
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>>81988961
this desu
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>>81988910
My theory is that since there really isn't enough bandwidth in captchalogue cards to represent every possible alchemy combination, that SBURB just starts with an empty hash table and populates it as the game progresses. So alchemy is lazily evaluated, in a sense.
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>>81988961
Are they really twins? I mean they were spawned in the same second, but they were then sent to different points in time. Dave is a day older than Rose, and Jade is a full five months - almost five and a half - older than John.
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>>81989005
>he is silly and goofy

These are the worst ways to define a character, as their is no way to actually make one lose those traits without it seeming ham fisted.

Writing a character like that basically commits arc suicide. Character suicide. It's more meant for a comedy, and Hussie always intended for it to be a comedy, but about teens growing up.

This is a case of bad writing, whether you like it or not.

>he fucking retcons the whole god damn universe he is overpowered

This is not a character trait, this is a last minute narrative convenience.
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>>81989017
shit
>*have the heart to deal with a copy of themselves once they've been made?

The implications are weird.
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>>81988006
STOP BEING RETARDED HOLYSHIT

MASTERPIECE HAPPENS BEFORE THEY ENTER THE NEW REALITY
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>>81989020
But we know that codes work between sessions. For instance, the code for Ahab's Crosshairs that Eridan gave Jade worked.
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>>81988951
What the fuck did I just read
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>>81989020
Yeah, in theory there isn't even enough space to account for every item that only players will use across every sburb session, since it's an infinite(?) cycle
>>81989097
Most likely that only works for codes that are "destined" to be traded across sessions
Or perhaps there are just a few universal constants
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>>81989089
no it didn't, dumbass
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>>81989017
maybe if you made it extremely small...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNLPXzlz6-I
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>>81989098
It's a wizard fic by a 13 year old
what did you expect
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>>81987582
>>81988403

The clear answer her is you're both right.
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>>81988292
So like would Terezi help John double team Roxy or would Roxy make use of Terezi while John fucked her ass?
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>>81989129
the problem I think rises from "what about the sprites?" and "why did they even bother coming back out then?"
Its almost as if Hussie fucked it up along the way
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Does anyone have any PM/John?
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How to have a succesful Sburb session:

Kill off these assholes:
>____ of Rage
>Thief of ____
>Prince of _____
>____ of Light
>____ of Blood
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>>81989187
John doesn't want sex or romance because he was never actually shown to want either in the comic.
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>>81988803
Man, Jade used to get blown up or crushed by things all the time. She was so good at it.
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>>81989098
Oh shit
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>>81988803
Jade isn't a Mary Sue, since she never fucking does anything.
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The comic could have been done without the character of Jade.
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>>81989225
Except for the times he expressed romantic interest
RTFC
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>>81989236
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>>81989129
He opens the door.
They fight Caliborn
He traps them.
Vriska frees them
They kill LE
They proceed to the actual universe.

I swear your like the retards who don't get MGS, KH, or the Crisis comics.
>>81989176
Does Roxy join John while he brutalizes Terezi's asshole?
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Yo guys, how would you like this on a shirt. Anon that did the midnight crew gif here. don't look liveblogger, spoilers
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>>81989290
you didn't even look at the image I posted
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>everyone hates Karkat
It's just one guy, right?
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>>81989298
Shouldn't you leave that part unspoiled, so they know not to look?
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>>81989277
One character expressed romantic interest in John, but John has never met anyone's

Unless we're willing to talk "static body language towards Roxy in the 'fast & loose' era", right before the comic went on its last gigantic unwarranted hiatus.
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>>81989236
its probably the booze talking but I dont actually remember Dave getting the egg from the bird sprite deal? Did I just blank that from my mind?
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>>81989339
No. Karkat is a mess.
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>>81989298
I don't wear graphic shirts but I really like this drawing.
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>>81989367
Karkat is a waste.
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>>81989347
>right before the comic went on its last gigantic unwarranted hiatus

I wonder if Hussie will just vanish from the internet forever once the game fails and he's forced to fire everyone and post that it's vaporware
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>>81989064
You do realize twins are not defined by time right
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>>81989290

>Does Roxy join John while he brutalizes Terezi's asshole?

Depends on you definition of "join".

Hops under Terezi to tease/rub/scissor while waiting for her turn? Maybe.

Whispers nothings in John's ear that make him go harder? YES.
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>>81989358
Presumably he got it. All the kids so far got an item from (presumably) a pre-punched card provided by the game, which they used in some fashion in order to enter the game.
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>>81989358
>Keep twisting junior all you get is licks
>Asshole thinks its candy

HOW DID HUSSIE LOSE THIS FIRE
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Terezi pegs John's ass while Roxy pegs John's mouth since John has no interest in participating in sex.
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>>81989340
shit

>>81989372
well it'll go into the welovefine contest, so maybe it'll be more than a shirt
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Would you?
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>>81989411
He almost had it near the end. Maybe now that Dave is away from Karkat he can be funny again
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>>81989358
Why is dave not panicking about this???
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>>81989358
>keep twisting junior all you get is clicks
>doesnt even know he just stepped on a security rake and got a face full of fucking safety

Some of the best lines here
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>>81989441
Not with all that sticky, sugary garbage around her.
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>>81988081
but what about the mayor?
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>>81989448
Dave is too chill to get worked up about dead Daves. It's not like that's him.
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>>81989448
God I love Bro
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>>81989448
Dave doesn't get phased by much. He's a pretty cool dude.
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>>81989448
>Dead Daves are the enemy
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>>81989462

>he doesnt like faygo
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>>81989448
It's implied that by this point he's already used to seeing dead versions of himself

And if not, he will be soon
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>>81989441
Depends on if I can go full edgelord and tie down Gamzee, Karkat, and Dave to make them watch.
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>>81989441
Pyralspite looks like it's seen some shit.
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>>81989488
Bro is easily one of the coolest characters in the comic. That's not saying a lot though, I'd call a bunch of characters in this comic cool as fuck.
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>>81989441
Making a characterless moron become an abuse victim was right about when I stopped giving a shit about the comic except for hopefulness it might possibly get better somehow.
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Can we all agree that Bro was a fucking Bro and Dave was overreacting?

The dude slept in the fucking couch for years, the ungrateful brat.
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it's been six years and i just now realized that terezi's shitty edits have the glasses in the wrong spot because she's blind
FUCK
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So, what the fuck happened to the Alpha kids once Dirk trapped LE?
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>>81989533

But druggie TZ is hot.
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>>81989560
>druggies
>hot
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>>81989488
>No aquatic life survived
>Rose was the 'evil' one and pink
>Could have had long talks with Feferi and Eridan and her own traitor subplot as she came to terms with her mother and her own fucked up issues
>nah let's have another 40 pages of clowns and boring fucking shipping
>>
I can't believe all these Homestuck porn artists don't realize that it's canon that trolls all have two diick2
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>>81989448
he has a mild freakout but not a john "flip the fuck out" eggbert

>>81989441
naw i dont want sloppy whipped cream cloun seconds.
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>>81989488
God the parents are so cool
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>>81989546
now THAT'S a slowdoze
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>>81989441
>Terezi started out as the 'justice' troll who murdered hundreds of children for the slightest infraction
>Gamzee kills two of her friends and she guzzles his dick without hesitation
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>>81989443
>The epilogue gives us some of the best logs in the comic
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>>81989593
AH SHIT
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>>81989290
>>81989089

Don't be retarded, it's made perfectly clear that they got to Caliborn via John's retcon powers, NOT via that door.

Which means it was a planned attack from the kids' side, which means it can't possibly have happened before they entered as it's not a plan anyone has even considered yet.
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>>81988539
Manly Dave
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>>81989627

She likes pranksters, not her fault John wasn't on the meteor.
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>>81989635
UHHHHH
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>>81988747
Good job. Do it twenty more times

I'm gonna be honest, I thought it was gonna be worse. You talked a big game of being shit, and didn't deliver
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>>81989652
Literally the first thing she does in the comic is kill John
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>>81989593
>Bro turned out to be a legit abusive fucked up creep

man Homestuck got fucking sloppy shitty weird by the end
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>>81989631
>The epilogue
>Having logs
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>>81989560
Making Homestuck involve domestic abuse was probably where everything went downhill, so no I don't think so.

>>81989570
they are
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>>81989669
hehehe
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>>81989704

JUST A PRANK BRO
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>>81989669
ITS HAPPENING
PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR MIND BLOWN
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>>81989711
I'd be disappointed if he didn't have an epiloguelogue

but that's too Old Huss style
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>>81989669
WELCOME TO HOMESTUCK.

(p.s. how bout that daverose now motherfucker?)
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>>81989647
Three reasons why the Caliborn/Masterpiece fight happened long after the end of Act 7:

1. Caliborn says they looked like they had been preparing to fight for some time.
2. John teleported everyone there using his retcon powers.
3. Only the kids went to fight Caliborn, not the trolls or Dad or the sprites.
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>>81989593
>Dad works at the joke shop

Holy fuck.
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>>81989635
Damn I wish I could make you read faster
It's 7 am and there's something I might have to show you at page 3831
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>>81989743
>how bout that daverose now motherfucker?

like the sweetest wine
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>>81989711
>Implying it won't be 50 pages of logs while sinking davekat
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>>81989669
Nice
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>>81989553
This. It's like, the one think I'm not totally clear on. Do they confront Caliborn after they populate their new home with adorable chess people? Are they just fucking martyrs? Is Homestuck shit? Is Kanaya single and alone and sobbing into gamzees codpiece? I have so many fucking questions.
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>>81989553
It's a mystery. Roxy's OP enough now that she could probably voidwarp them out.
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>>81989075
real people don't have fucking "character traits".
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>>81989553
Wow, no theories?
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>>81989785
yes they are martyrs
They probably train in the hyperbolic time chamber for 413 years before going to fight Caliborn
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>>81989800
You're right, no one has any character traits, or traits at all. They're all boring as fuck.
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>>81989807
glub glub SHRUG
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>>81989779
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>>81989816
Caliborn called them teens.
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>>81989807

They became the guardians through time shenanigans.
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>>81989669
God, to this day I can still hear the screams of shippers
Thousands of voices screaming into the void, and then suddenly silenced by MSPAF mods
"please do not talk about incest on the forums"
>>
what the hell do first guardians do anyway
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>>81989843
God Tiers stop aging after a certain point
We don't know when that is but it might also vary from person to person
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>>81989800
>real people don't have fucking "character traits".

I didn't realize Kanaya, Lord English, Dave, Karkat, and Eridan, were all real people outside of fiction. Nor that people don't have traits.
>>
>>81989845
We already know that's not true
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>>81989834
That's right dude, Dave and Rose are siblings.
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>>81989865
They protect the planet and ready its players to play Sburb.
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>>81989857
I remember when I actually felt sorry for shippers, because the comic torpedoed something they really enjoyed.

We were so young before Act 5, so foolish and naive.
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>>81989834
I don't even know thats going on anymore
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>>81989870
>kanaya

lol
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>>81989898
Plot shit, son. Also nice megatrips.
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>>81989898
Well thats one loop down
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>>81989908
Non Sequitors are so fun.

The unspoken abuse beating of men by their wives.

Homestuck

lol
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>>81989898
I see you've met baby Grandpa.
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>>81989898
>superman
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>>81989694
When I look at it it does seem like I'm fucking awful trash
Like that's not me fishing for reassurance, I actually feel that way
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>>81989870
I look at it this way

Ok, so Hussie can go all "Nunnnnuuhhhh characters don't have traits or arcs"

Ok Hussie sure

Fine

But you're writing a story with characters, and they're not real people, and usually to EMULATE real people and have us want to actually read, these people, in the events and story, have 'arcs' and 'traits' because nobody gives a shit about your shut-in ideas of what's post-modern, we care about the art and snappy dialogue and cool shit

So guess what you wrote a shitty story, congrats
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>>81989938
we posting english non sequitors?
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>>81989553
Assuming that the Beta kids came out of the juju when Vriska used it, John could just zap back later to pick the Alpha kids up. No time would even have to pass from their perspective.
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>>81989949
his name is hass
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>>81989768
DaveRose twincest is a patrician ship
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>>81989975
To the fucking day I die and you can't convince me Davesprite and Doomed Rose didn't fuck like demons for those lonely months
>>
>>81989970
Hass D'lgado
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>>81989448
he is. that's why he decides to cool it on the time travel for a while. you can't tell though because of his shades.
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>>81990002
I'm not going to try, anon. I'm not going to try because I completely agree.
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>>81990002
>>81990022
Stop that!
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>>81989790

It's a pretty huge stretch to suggest she could warp between sessions/universes. So far she hasn't shown any ability even remotely like that. She appeared to warp Rose away, but honestly I think that wasn't actually warping, just making herself and Rose intangible. And she can warp things to the furthest ring apparently, but that's not exactly a target that requires any precision to hit, and the furthest ring is linked to the void so she may only be able to warp stuff there.

I mean sure, Hussie Zahhak and all. So maybe. But that seems a bit too overpowered even for her.
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>>81990039
Make me, bitch. I will make you think about the sweet, sweet DaveRose incest and you will fucking like it.
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>>81989874
They should have known that Dave was only interested in Jade from the start
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>>81990039
YOU NO LONGER HAVE POWER HERE
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>>81990002
that sounds really fucking hot anon
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>>81989926
This is without a doubt the single greatest piece of art I have ever witnessed
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003831
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>>81990042
Where did this Hussie Zahhak meme come from?
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>>81990002
Why would I deny something that's obviously true?
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>>81990074
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>>81990086
say it really fast
say it 3 times in a row and he'll appear to ruin your favorite character
>>
>>81990002
this. it was a terribly unhealthy codependent relationship, but it was all they had.

and then they finally got their happy ending with jaspers and nep
>>
>>81990074
GET FUCKING READY (AGAIN)
YOU'RE ABOUT TO WITNESS THE END OF ACT 4
GOD SPEED LIVEBLOGGER
>>
>>81990106
Joke's on you, he already did
>>
>>81990106
it's impossible
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>>81990067
Can you blame him?
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>>81990086
Zahhak is his stand name. He says it, time stops for a moment, then all of a sudden he ruins your favorite webcomic.
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>>81990108
>and then they finally got their happy ending with jaspers and nep

i wanna fuckin die
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>>81990126
>doesn't know what a toilet is used for
>probably doesn't shave, bathe, nor wipe herself

she's probably gross as fuck, yo
>>
>>81989669
Good time to tell you that Dave/Rose is known as Dersecest :^)
>>
Explain to me in one sentence, 8 words long, what Jade's character is.
>>
>>81990163
>you will never bathe jade and scrub all the dirty shit (not actual shit hopefully) off of her
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>>81990163
She has future technology, her shower is probably some sort of nuclear capsule
Plus three years alone with Nanna probably taught her how to be a proper lady
Dave knew she was top tier waifu material
>>
>>81990074
Should I even keep reading
Will anything actually ever top that?
>>
>>81990163
BEDAZZLED
>>
>>81990222
Yes you should

You're just a few pages from a top-tier flash
>>
>>81989790
>>81990042
Didn't she do it when giving Calliope the ring?
>>
>>81990163
Is that lexxy?
>>
>>81990163
>doesn't know what a toilet is used for
don't remember this
remember her trying to clean a room with toilet water but not any sort of "the fuck is toilet"
>>
>>81990222
I can name a couple of things later that could top that, honestly.
>>
>>81990215
Slept a lot then became a furry goddess
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>>81990250
Also her toilet is probably like this magic hypertech that keeps itself clean
>>
>>81990163
She knows what a toilet is, she accidently dropped a towel in dave's when she was trying to tidy up for him
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>>81990250
Yeah, she thought people cleaned houses with toilets, not what a toilet was.
Jade's not that clueless, so all those fanfics you have of her leaving her house without any underwear is probably false
>>
>>81990244

Calliope was in the furthest ring though.
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>>81990042
Oh, no? I bet with the ring of void she could.

Also this:
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT6.php?s=6&p=009344
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>>81990286
please don't ignore me senpai
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>>81990163

>doesn't know what a toilet is used for

In all likelyhood, neither does Dave.

This is the guy who spent his entire childhood thinking fridges are for storing swords, remember

See theyre perfect for eachother
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>>81990074
Seriously fuck gc, what a bitch
>>
>>81990361
She's trying to cheer him up, and it's working
>>
Jade shitting on everything in the comic without using a toilet is nothing new.
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>>81990361
Have fun in Act 5.
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>>81990361
>tfw first seeing Dave: Accelerate

how, how do you fuck up something so good, so bad

how did he fuck this up
>>
>>81989823
>>81989870
in all seriousness though, can you actually name some decent character traits about yourself? if you can't think of any, does that mean you don't matter? if you can only think of positive ones are you a mary sue? if you can only think of negative ones does that mean you are worthless?
both people and characters are more complex than listing off bullet points.
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>>81990386
She's not Indian you retard.
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>>81990404
It was the hiatuses.
>>
>>81988919
I think God tiers have the ability to alter their uniforms, Meenah does that, though it might just be because she's in a dream. bubble.
>>
>>81990002
The question is would Kanaya join in on their little fun?
I can see Karkat joining if at nothing else because Rose likes being watched, and Jade's a given. Not too sure about Kanaya she would join if Karkat were there but with him gone?
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>>81990352
ANOTHER ONE FUCKING CHRIST
>>81990361
Also Kid Chameleon was the shit
>>
>>81990415
>in all seriousness though, can you actually name some decent character traits about yourself
No, but I could easily do so for people I know, and if the situation were reversed they could likely do the same for me.
>>
>>81990404
Dave: Accelerate was the first page where I was like "holy shit this is like an anime"
"I'm going to read this all the way until the end"
even though I had already read three entire acts
>>
>>81988919

I wanted Kanaya to be a good character and fuck John was that too much to ask
>>
>>81990454
Yes.
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>>81990352
WAIT ITS EVEN IN THE FLASHES, MY GOD.
>>
>>81990415
>in all seriousness though, can you actually name some decent character traits about yourself?

Yes.

> if you can't think of any, does that mean you don't matter?

It means you're boring, but that's a bit harsh. Drama and Fiction aren't about reality and are just a vertical slice of reality.

>if you can only think of positive ones are you a mary sue?

No.

>if you can only think of negative ones does that mean you are worthless?

No.

>both people and characters are more complex than listing off bullet points.

People yes, characters depending. Homestuck is not Heart of Darkness so don't make the comparison that Homestuck's characters are all that complex.
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>>81990480
That's not the only flash with it
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>>81990480
that's what I thought as I saw it
gotta thank lb for making me more aware of those
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mother nature and father time
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>>81990528
Fuck
FUCK
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>>81990436
DAVE YOU KNOW THIS IS STUPID FUCK
Also about to start descend
>>
>>81990528
So wait, does that make their kid baby new year?
I don't remember the rudolph cartoon
>>
>>81990562
>Also about to start descend
STRAP
THE
*FUCK*
IN
>>
>>81990562
You're in for a hell of a ride.
>>
>>81990488
You're underselling Homestuck because it's a shonen manga. It doesn't need to be Heart of Darkness to have complex characters. There is tons of dialogue, the complexity is there... not for all characters but for many.
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>>81990562
Buckle up,
Homestuck
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>>81990506
which ones?

and if we find them all do we get a prize?
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>>81990528
>Father Time
To develop Dave, this guardian was castrated.
Everything checks out.
>>
>>81990528
O
T
P
>>
Reminder not to respond to trips if you disagree with what they're saying because they are transparently baiting you for attention and you are worse than they are by feeding them
>>
>>81990562
A recurring theme in Homestuck is that all named males are retarded, autistic, or both.
>>
>>81990584
>You're underselling Homestuck
>>
>>81990452

Homestuck would have been so, so much better if it just went full anime and STAYED that way.

Acts 4 and 5 as well as 7(duh) are pretty anime but act 6 is like, the opposite of anime.

It's not just the pacing and action either, it's in the art. Acts 4 and 5 have this amazing iconic style with lanky, angular characters drawn in extreme perspective and strong poses. Then in act 6 it turns into tumblr/cartoon network garbage with characters just standing around next to eachother with rubber hose arms and stocky, rounded proportions and it's not visually interesting in the slightest.

This, for me, is one of Homestuck's greatest failures, but it's one that goes unnoticed by most people.
>>
Homestuck is the Ulysses of the Internet
>>
>>81989857
Past the "related genetically" part, is it still really incest, in terms of relationship? They never even met before they made friends. Besides possible disadvantaged children, but that's not what I'm talking about.
>>
>>81990626
Man you are impossible to talk to
at least say something I can respond to
>>
>>81990528
>Spacetime
>Harley-davidson
dave and jade are like poetry
>>
>>81990584
>You're underselling Homestuck because it's a shonen manga.
>Homestuck is a shonen manga'
wat
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>>81990584
Having no character != having complex characters. Traits interacting in interesting ways are important to complex characters, not gray lumps standing around and dumping expository dialogue.
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>>81989953
Well it'll be less trash the more you draw it.

Seriously that attitude is like going to a fuckin karate dojo, trying to side kick once with the resut of flailing your leg around vaguely to the side and deciding you'll never be any good at karate. Like, no shit you suck at side kicking you haven't even done it before

Just keep drawing that same figure and post the twentieth one. I swear it'll be better
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>>81990674
shonen = aimed at young or teen boys
manga = comics
I was being ironic
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>>81990710
the audience it has, homestuck is much more of a shoujo
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>>81990660
I like Eridan, he's honest, he's passionate, he didn't deserve this.
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>>81990680
I can agree with that. I wouldn't say that Aranea is a complex character even though she's wordy. But not all characters are exposition dumps all the time.

>>81990726
it didn't start out that way
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>>81990726
You mean it's yaoitrash.
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>>81990710
Homestuck is Shoujou then
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liveblogger are you done flipping out at descend yet
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>>81990736
well yeah
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homestuck is josei you fat nasty trash
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There's a new reader around? Neat. Cherish it. Hope you like getting your dreams crushed.

Anyways.
Did this anon make anything past Vriska yet?
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>>81990562
>>81990757
NO
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>AH: Engage in highly indulgent self-insertion into story.
>What?
>Oh hell no. This is always such a terrible idea.
>Leave me alone.

should have taken your own advice you stupid washed up egotistical failed hasbeen
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>>81990698
I'll post it tomorrow, it's 1AM and I have chem lab in the morning
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>>81990795
She just watched Descend
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>>81990746
>But not all characters are exposition dumps all the time.
Everyone is for the majority of their screentime Act 6 onwards. If nothing else, the live-rereading has reminded me how great Homestuck used to be with character dialogue before the comic got bad.
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>>81990757
he better be
It's 8 am and I've got class at 3pm
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>>81990788
Man you are impossible to talk to
at least say something I can respond to
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>>81990528

So does that mean Rose is Lady Luck?

Who would John be, Free Will?
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>>81990821
I can't help it, there's nothing to say when we're in total agreement with each other
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>>81990827
>Rose is Lady Luck
Son of a bitch, you are blowing my mind here
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>>81990819
Anon, go to bed right now
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>>81990800
>it's 1 AM
8am anon here
I bet you're not even a member of the midnight crew
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>>81990800
Good. I want pictures damn it. Pictures of wireman!
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>>81990842
just a little longer
I'll overdose on coffee later
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Descend was a radical 15th birthday present btw
Thanks again, Hussie, even if it was a week late
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>>81990827
Rose is Lady Luck, John's the North Wind or something
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>>81990810
Wow, that's exciting.
****ACTUAL SPOILERS****
I wonder how she'll (?) react to [s] JOHN: RISE UP.
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>>81990897
That's my favorite fucking Flash, it's pretty underrated IMO
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>Rose left her beautiful Land as a lifeless, empty, glittering rock of unfulfilled destiny and no potential to forever hang dark in the void
>Jade didn't even bring the Lands through for the new Earth
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>>81990827
John is the Holy Trinity of Christianity (Fathered the paradox clones, died and came back to life, literally becomes the breeze), the one true religion.
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>>81990909
>Underrated
I like it too but it's one of the most popular flashes
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>>81990858
Just so we're absolutely clear though, I'm drawing the same pose, right?
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>>81990883
There are like 100 reasons why it can't have happened this way
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>>81990488
i'm saying that characters don't have to be complex or have issues and flaws to overcome in order to be meaningful.
in my opinion, john is a good enough character.
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Did liveblogger overdose on hype? Should I be calling an ambulance?
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>>81990930
I don't think it's particularly popular. It barely ever makes it onto peoples lists of favorite flashes.
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>>81990927
Oh ha he's technically Yaweh. I mean as a breath player he can probably Breathe life into dead players.
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So, could anyone storytime Homestuck?
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>>81990995
SON OF A BITCH
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>>81990966
>i'm saying that characters don't have to be complex or have issues and flaws to overcome in order to be meaningful.

In a story, there is no reason to care about characters that have no personal goals or flaws besides reader or author projection.

This is also called bad writing, of which John is an example of.
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[S] Jade: Pester John is the most underrated flash
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>>81990683
hello homie please post r63 katnep please and thank you
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>>81990927
He's also a slut and a bitch
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It's so weird to read the early acts. There was so much more personality and just kind of a detached joy in the writing and art and gags. It didn't feel so forced and exhausting.
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>>81990562
Holy fucking shit that was amazing
It was everything I ever wanted goddamn
Holy fucking shit hooooooly shit
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>>81991042
I repeat my question. >>81990977
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>>81991042
I'm so glad you liked it.

Get ready for Act 5.
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>>81991042
Enjoy this moment. It's all downhill from here.
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>>81991042
I'm telling you right fucking now, just stop reading the comic once you hit Act 5 because the highs are never going to reach that level ever again, ever

Descend was fucking liquid crystal cocaine
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>>81991008

Didn't you notice? Breath is like Life, their symbols are even eerily similar.

If Breath has its own thing like Space = Mass and what not, it's probably either Will or Soul.
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>>81990955
Well yeah, Dave's not a pedophile
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>>81991042
Now are you ready for a bunch of exposition about the ayys? I hope so, because that's what you're in for.
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>>81991066
>>81991063
Act 5 is fucking awesome, just not the first part. She still has some enjoyment left in this trainwreck.
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>>81991009
then explain why i and so many people like him. it can't simply be shit taste.
he does not need fucking character traits
sometimes lacking can be the most realistic and endearing thing a character can do.
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>>81991063
Oh come on.

5.2 is more goood than bad
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>>81991042
>>81991063
>>81991066

Some people think Descend is the high point of the comic, but those people are mostly jaded fucks.

The high point is the end of act 5. It is to Descend what Descend was to the earlier flashes.
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>>81991098
The latter half of Act 5 is great, but it's no Act 1-4.
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>>81991134
cascade is hella overrated.
descend is timeless

You would have been better off talking about Jade Enter
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>>81991063
Act 5.2 contains some of my favorite moments in Homestuck

Act 6, though... yeah.
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was there a SBaHJ comic where there was a panel that said "this is what the rafarence is" or did i make that up
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>>81991134
Descend is only the high point because after that the comic sealed its own fate to mediocrity and boredom by the end. Act 5 was a waste.

Not as much as Act 6, but, it was still a waste setting up the comic to go nowhere, fast, for a long long time.
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>>81991082
I like how Jade seems to have grown into a mature Office Lady type but Dave hasn't aged a bit
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>>81990933
Yep. The exact same pose, twenty times.

One more thing. Think about loosening the grip on your pencil and shortening your strokes. It'll be easier to control the shape that way
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>>81991042
>>81991054
I'm kind of losing my mind to be real
That shit was fucking astounding like holy shit that was beautiful
Bro is the fucking shit Holy fuck
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>>81991188
Isn't that how it's going to be?
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>>81991186
i can't remember where it was but "THIS IS WHAT THE REFRANCE" was definitely a thing
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>>81991186
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>>81991197
I'm going to finish this mother fucking comic tonight holy shit that was amazing
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>>81991196
Alright, I'll try to do that
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>>81991218
>Implying it's not Mister and Missus Harley
Jade wears the pants in this relationship
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>>81991160
Jade: Enter and Rose: Descend are for sure the best of 5.2, with maybe the first AlterniaBound also being in the running. But even each if those have their caveats and "excepts".
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>>81991229
>I'm going to finish this mother fucking comic tonight holy shit that was amazing
You'll eat those words.
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>>81991229
>I'm going to finish this mother fucking comic tonight
Act 5 is longer than acts 1-4 combined
Act 6 is longer than acts 1-5 combined
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>>81991229
>I'm going to finish this mother fucking comic tonight
;_;

Prepare for your dreams to be crushed as you think about what could've been.
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>>81991229
Liveblogger - you're like a quarter of the way in. Go the fuck to sleep.
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>>81991229
Glad to see Jack actually honored his deal
>>81991265
>>81991264
>>81991250
Ya'll are cowards
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>>81991229
It's physically impossible to finish Acts 5 and 6 in 24 hours, let alone one night
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Poor liveblogger. She knows not what she does.
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>>81991229
that is literally impossible
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>>81991272
>Ya'll are cowards

Your tears are going to taste like fucking milk and honey you stupid corn fed ignorant shit

Suffer, like HSG did
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>>81991272
>people being weaklings around me
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>>81991243
Jade might where the pants but you're implying she wouldn't be ecstatic about being married and all that shit. She's a girly enough girl to want to be Jade Strider.
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>>81991187

Why does this shitty curve keep getting posted, it's about as wrong and stupid as it could possibly be. Act 5 is just a single downward line, implying that 5.2 is somehow WORSE than 5.1, what the fuck.

Someone should make an actual good and up to date image like this that actually reflects the comic.
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>>81988812
Don't underestimate the power of unreal air.
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>>81991272
8am here
I'm a coward; good morning and going to sleep
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>>81991304
I KNEW IT WAS A BUNNY FUCK ALL OF YOU HAHAHHA
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>>81991272
what time zone are you in? the flashes alone will take like 6 hours.
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>>81991280
Nah, the ayys weren't that bad, even though the fanbase turned to cancer.
Though I'll admit the first part of act 5 is a bit too slow, on a reread it isn't that bad.
The second part is amazing.
The comic doesn't significantly slow down until Act 6
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>>81991225
much appreciated
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>>81991322
Ar is actually the realest
Solid fucking dude
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>>81991305
Jade's the kind of girl who would scribble a massive heart with "Mrs. Jade Harley Strider" in the center, but then still tie him to the bed and stick a strapon up his butt
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>>81991336
The last talky parts of act 6 also take like 2 hours to blaze through
It's just impossible on every level
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>>81991197
TOXIC MASCULINITY
HOMOPHOBIA
ABUSIVE BROTHER
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>>81991308
Anon, pay attention, it measures the momentum of excitement for the comic going into those acts, and how it starts to slowly come out of the haze of love and into the stark reality of a story shitting itself apart at the seams.

I was exactly the same. I was practically trying to force my dick into the screen by the time Act 5 started, and the more we got of the trolls the more drooling mad angry I wanted to get back to the fucking kids after the cliffhanger

And it just got worse from there
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>>81991308
It should probably also have tiny bumps throughout Act 6 where you keep on thinking something interesting is about to happen only for the comic to trick you once again.
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>>81991350
That moment is why AR is my favorite of the exiles.
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>>81991360
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>>81991360
>still ends up disregarding all of it and fucking Jade
Hussie's either based or a hack
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>>81991340
exposition and setting up a brand new session really does take the pacing out behind the woodshed
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>>81991275
Between Acts 5 and 6, there's over 3 hours of animated content alone
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>>81991365
>I was practically trying to force my dick into the screen during Act 5.1
Fixed
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>>81991350
Nevermind I'm going to sleep
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>>81991241
Good. Looks like we're in the same time zone, so I'll keep an eye out for you around 11am
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>>81991404
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>81991404
We told you to enjoy the moment. Now you sped ahead and it's all ruined.
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>>81991404
She can be taught
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>>81991409
>11am
I hope you mean pm because i'll be in lab at 11am
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>>81991404
Fucking destroyed.
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>>81991404
YOU THOUGHT I WAS KIDDING

BUT YOU WERE WRONG
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>>81991404
top kek
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>>81991404
kek
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>>81991404
People are really exagerating how bad this part is. It's still worth the read.
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>>81991403
Not me, sorry. I never liked the other 8 trolls. They were a waste of time away from the plot and that's all they ever amounted to being, to little surprise.

>>81991404
I'm fucking telling you. Just stop reading now, forever. You have literally already experienced The Best Of Homestuck. It's over.
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>>81991353
Exactly
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>>81991360
>trains dave to be a badass anime
>he becomes one

wooooooooow
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>>81991387
The same is true of the Intermission and everybody here fucking loves that.

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it a lot too, but don't act like it really made the pacing worse than Act 5 Act 1 did. It's a problem they both share.

I'm surprised people hate Act 5 Act 2 though, for me that probably marked my highest amount of investment in the comic.
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>>81991433
I mean, so long as you're not posting shit at the crack of dawn I'll probably see it
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>>81989647
Youre an idiot, the door even looks like the fucking juju that have him retcon powers AND it fucking flipped to a different door than what it is meant to be. Why couldnt they get to LE through a door? And how would davesprite be there if it was after??
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>OP right now
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36079014
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>>81991444
It's not exaggeration. With the comic over, done, finished, we see now it was a massive waste of time that helped contribute to the comic fizzling out into shit and vapor.
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>>81991404
act 5 is really fun
dont listen to them
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btHd1zrjkqY
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https://youtu.be/0CyJ7Micjq0
> fuckass
Man this was so close to being good
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>>81991365
>>81991369

Maybe you should speak for yourselves, my experience was a constant upward curve all the way to Cascade, which fully delivered on all the built-up hype.

And Act 6 isn't even a fraction as much of a slog for a new archival reader as it was for us. Some of the parts that felt like they took ages for us blaze past in minutes to a new reader.
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>>81991478
>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36079014
I'm terrible for laughing
>>81991478
the fuck ayss
I want the kids dammit
WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE ON THAT KIND OF CLIFFHANGER FUCK
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>>81991468
The Intermission had much less exposition and dialogue. It starts off right in the middle of an attack and doesn't slow down.

Hivebent starts off at square one with Karkat's introduction and then dialogue, another introduction, dialogue, etc. until Make Her Pay
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>>81991478
I swear to God I must be like one of five people who never liked Act 5 and I'm fine with that because Act 7 fucking justified me to Pluto and back again
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>>81991479
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>>81991404
You're good people, liveblogger
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>>81991510
For 12! All 12. Every single one. All of them. The only thing Act 5 was good for was their Lands and Jade finally entering the game.
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>>81991071
Honestly, I'm of the opinion that each Aspect is only supposed to be a symbol. Anything that can be associated with the symbol is a viable interpretation of the Aspect and how it may manifest as "powers" for any individual player.
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>>81991479
Is this a westaboo
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>>81991479
davejade still best
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>>81991510
Fair point.

From what I remember that's also when the chatlogs started getting longer than they should have been.

Alright, I rescind my previous statement. I still don't think Act 5 act 1 is as bad as some make it out to be, but yeah, it did fuck the pacing up.
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>>81991448
>I See You've Brought Your Lovely Family With You, Including Your Daughter, KFC! Your Father Sucks!
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>>81991470

>This entire post

Are you fucking serious now?

>You're an idiot

ahahahahahahaha

You're a bit in over your head here dude, you don't even know how the plot works.
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>>81991538
NOPE
we kept pressuring Hussie to talk more about SBURB game mechanics and in response he gave us the most contrived, codified classpect system possible
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>>81991541
Don't matter when it's literally the best fansong
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>>81991563
Hussie is for real an incredibly bad writer

He does amazing internet-style humor conversations and that's about it
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>>81991541
No, just a weeaboo. Did great fansongs though, that's probably the best one though. Derse Dreamers and Three In the Morning are great too.
>>
Is Homestuck the Ulysses of our time?
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>>81991513
There are redeemable moments in 5.2 but overall it was pretty bad compared to pre-Hivebent (though obviously miles above Act 6). Descend is incredibly overrated too.
>>
>>81991580
I don't think he's really a bad writer, but he does a lot of things by intuition and feeling. So the longer it takes to finish a work, the more he loses that intuition and he ends up creating something that clashes with its own themes.
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>>81991600
no.
Homestuck was just a waste of our time.
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>>81991600
Well liveblogger is going to go on a quest from which they may never return so maybe
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>>81991604
I meant Cascade is overrated, not Descend.
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>>81991513
thats kind of sad honestly
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>>81991502

>WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE ON THAT KIND OF CLIFFHANGER FUCK

That was like, a cliff the size of the edge of a pavement. Right next to the grand canyon that is the further cliffhangers in Homestuck.

You get to see what happens next in a day or so. We've had to wait for LITERAL YEARS on worse cliffhangers than this, in some cases only for them to not get resolved at all!

In fact, we're being left on a cliffhanger RIIIIIGHT NOOOOOW.
>>
>>81991229
>>81991404
Screencap-worthy?
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>>81991612
>but he does a lot of things by intuition and feeling

that's being an incredible bad writer

'bad writer' doesn't mean he can't spell or make good conversations, it means he can't structure a story, coherently get across a plot, play out plot points, or keep characters consistent or interesting across a variety of situations

brevity and speed was his strengths and he abandoned them
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>>81991654
She's been capping it herself

http://fuckingletmehaveaname.tumblr.com/
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>>81991654
If you make it I'll save it
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>>81991563
People take Calliope too seriously. Everything she says about the classpects is prefaced by her admitting it's a very narrow and simplified interpretation.
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>>81991659
It's the true
The minute Hussie started working towards a structured goal things suffered
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>>81991684
So what was the fucking point of having her exposition then? It was just a waste of time.
>>
"Dante did explicitly say a t.v show is in the works" - Some random dude on reddit who said he talked to Dante
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>>81991659
But if you look at the pacing of Homestuck through Act 4, it's fine. That's why brevity and speed are his strengths... if he moves to slowly he starts to forget. With Homestuck he bit off more than he could chew and kept biting.
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>>81991637
Sorry Angel. I loved HSG and the comic, but my heart left it in Act 5 because the trolls took forever, I didn't like most of them and it went nowhere, and it just kept going nowhere for the rest of Act 5 once we finally got back to the kids (now the Troll Show Starring The Trolls) until everything was a giant sloppy dull mess. So I feel pretty damn justified for seeing the warning signs.
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>>81991703
END MY FUCKING LIFE
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>>81991703
>it starts the kids descendants as they uncover the mystery of the ancient world of Sburb
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>>81991691
He had plotlines in the first four acts that worked fine, complete with conflict, climax, and resolution. If you think about it like seasons of a TV show, then Hussie pulled off at least one really fantastic season. The show just went on too long.
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>>81991703
Please Dante, no.
homestuck caused enough garbage on the internet, it doesn't need to transition into mainstream media.
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>>81991703
>the ride is never fucking going to be over
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>81991706
No that's what I'm saying the plot and writing was GREAT in Acts 1-4, because he kept it small, coherent, and snappy

Then he introduced a LOT of characters, had tremendous gaps between characters talking and developing (remember how long it went between Dave and John talking?) which is an amateur mistake of the highest tier, and went nowhere with them for literal years for no reason

He had the fucking sun in his hands and he squeezed the life out of it under a billion shitty characters and pesterlogs that dragged on for eternity
>>
>>81991703
fug no
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>>81991703
he means an animated tv show right
not like Dante Basco is going to be in some live action shit
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what am I doing with this
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>>81991764
>Trolls alluded to, but not focused on

AAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA LIKE FUCK, THE STORY WOULD BE NOTHING *BUT* TROLLS, AND THEIR MERCHANDISE!

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERCHANDISING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>81991703
i hope with everything ive got left that whatever theyre working on falls through. let the ride fucking end already (after the epilogue, but thats it)
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>>81991819
Trolls are for the sequel
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>>81991823
It's gonna copy SU so fucking hard it'll be pathetic

The game is never gonna come out either

What a laughable attempt at grabbing for cash with the last vestiges of his failed work
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>>81991703
>It's adapted by Alex Hirsch so we get a double-dose of hackness
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>Hussie is willing to whore out Homestuck for all it's worth
>But Problem Sleuth 2 was a ridiculous though to him
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>>81991819
>Breath = Life
>Light = Mind
>Time = Doom
>Space = Void
>Rage = Rage upside down
>Blood, Heart and Hope have nothing
This stupid fucking pointless thing still bothers me.
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>>81991813
that is an excellent question

>>81991819
Moichendising! Moichendising! Where da REAL money from da movie is made!
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is angel single
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because why not:
http://strawpoll.me/7414386
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>>81991894
angel isn't real
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>>81991892
Rage and Hope have the same bilateral symmetry

Blood and heart are both related to the cardiovascular system
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>>81991894
yeah
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Requesting fanart of HomosuckVerse, Caliborn best author
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>>81991813
your design might work better with lineart
what color shirt is it going on?
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how come Aranea is powerful enough to mind control Gamzee but Vriska wasn't?
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>>81991934
Screw that
I want Jade in a nightgown
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>>81987279

SBaHJ > Problem Sleuth > Jailbreak > Kid Radd > nobody read Bard Quest > cancer > aids > rectal pustules > homestuck
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>>81991926
I always thought Blood would be the Body to Heart's Soul, and Mind's... well, Mind. Like, Karkat would end up having stats so incredibly fucking high that he could solo the Empress. Why did he not fight the Empress? His ENTIRE plot line of leadership and Knighthood and being a mutant just... stopped happening. He didn't even get to lead the troll army against English in some megalithic recall to his finale in Hivebent.

Oh right, characters don't have arcs. They just say and do random things in a chaos and void that goes nowhere, and does nothing to entertain.
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>>81991958
Aranea/Mindfang's mind control ability is alluded to be much stronger than Vriska's. Mindfang controlled that mob of trolls at her trial, and it was suggested that Aranea was doing most of the work in controlling the ghost army.
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>>81991894
The difference is you're single, not by choice.
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>>81991958
Aranea's powers are more developed than Vriska's. She was pulling most of the weight during the first ghost army scheme.
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Hussie truly was the Waste of Space.
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>>81991939
Dark Green or Dark Grey. I also want to submit it as a print, if that'll work.
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>>81992011
?
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>>81987406

every character in homestuck is fake and gay except caliborn, who works hard, overcomes adversity and his own shortcomings, and questions and breaks the rules
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>>81992028
Waste of Life is more like it.
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>>81991098
No its not, act 5.2 is a shitty mess and cascades only good bits are the jack bits
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>>81992040
what about vriska
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>>81992034
you should work with a locked layer of the color you're putting it on so you can keep track of how bright its going to look on the final product
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>>81992040

like the comic is literally caliborn + a bunch of embarassing terrible faggots who all deserve to die.
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>>81992028
Hussie - Waste of Space
Homestuck - Waste of Time
BKEW - Waste of Mind
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>>81992044
Waste of Time.
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>>81992036
Don't respond to it. Filter it and ignore it.
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>>81992067
Damn, why didn't I think of that. Thanks much.
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>>81991981
Karkat could have been allowed to do anything important and it would have fit his character arc perfectly
maybe lead the ghost army? being first to go down doesn't count
come up with the plan to defeat the big bads? would have been a perfect last chance to prove he could be a good leader
fight side by side with John? nah that's dumb
Instead we get him crying because he was being stepped on by a leprechaun
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>>81992040
Caliborn and Calliope are up there in most unnecessary bullshit asspulls of late homestuck I'm glad single handily helped drive most appreciation I had for the comic away.

And I'm not alone. The only time he was actually was worth it was when he became a mockery of all the deviantart account owners who "like" his "character"
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>>81992063

vriska is a slightly smugger shitty wordvomiting plot device than all of the other shitty plot devices
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>>81992070
>caliborn + a bunch of embarassing terrible faggots
That's not fair, there's also Spades Slick.
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>>81992096
I am just fucking amazed that a character that has been with us since the start of the comic and had truckloads of legit good dialogue and compelling character mysteries and reveals and goals just ended up stuck in a Void End of his own where he did nothing, was nothing, never needed to exist, and had nothing to show for a single thing he did in all 7 years

I am fucking blown away Hussie so cleanly and powerfully squandered a character and fucked up people's expectations for one of the most loved characters of the entire comic

Like you have to be legendary levels of really bad to pull that off
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https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2016/04/18/exclusive-dante-basco-joins-creative-team-for-homestuck-webcomic/
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>>81991229
You would die before you got anywhere near the end in a single read

go to bed.
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>>81992085
Calling me an it from a homestuck general regular from 8gag is a shining compliment when you look at the disgusting unshowered uneducated lot that homestuck general has left for itself.
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>>81992125
I hope Homestuck manages to put another nail into the coffin of the "it's not the destination that matters, it's the journey! " horseshit excuse for authors and fans alike.
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>>81992097

caliborn is the only thing anywhere in homestuck that isn't a shitty asspull, as well as being the only character who recognizes that everything about homestuck is a shitty asspull.
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>>81992095
no probs man
also i know working on that gray checkerboard must be killing your eyes
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>>81992070
Caliborn shouldn't have existed in the first place. The need for another new antagonist to supercede the one built is so fucking stupid it makes the trickster arc look fucking sane.
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>>81992160
it doesn't even make that argument because THE JOURNEY HAS BEEN DULL SQUANDERED SHIT FOR FUCKING YEARS, TOO
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>>81992143
It's time
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Alright, pick one. Hysterical Dame or Nervous Broad? Why?
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>>81992164
>caliborn is the only thing anywhere in homestuck that isn't a shitty asspull

This is the most amazing thing I've ever read. Please explain how a character that appears out of nowhere to be built as an antagonist that was never needed, that superseded the previous invested antagonist, wasn't an asspull.

Go on, write me an essay. My night is boring.
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should I end my davemom fic by having rose walk in or mom going to get herself a drink
or both
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>>81987975
So is earth restored?
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>>81992143
>So like, from what Dante said, the origin of "Homestuck 2.0" was when he was hanging out with a bunch of people central to the production of Homestuck, and someone called the group basically "Homestuck 2.0." He also mentioned that his original role was that he introduced Hussie to a lot of tv people, and Dante did explicitly say a t.v show is in the works, but that could mean A LOT of things. It could be that a studio is interested, it could be that a pilot has been ordered, who knows? What we talked about the most, however, and what Dante seems most focused on is creating a functioning, living, breathing YouTube channel. His focus is on trying to figure out how to get the fan community engaged in the way that works best for the format. That seems to be his focus on this stage of the project.
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>>81992171
Yeah. Was Caliborn fun? Sure. Was he needed? No. Not at all. Jack was fine. He was good. We fucking loved Jack. Jack English would have made amazing and awesome sense.

Caliborn felt like Hussie channeling all his anger into something nasty and self-referential to the point of embarrassment.

>>81992198
HD. She's short, she's stacked, she's got a chainsaw.
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>>81992167
now that you mention it, god damn
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>>81992203
boty
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>>81991556
You dont know how retcons work. Of john used his retcon powers to get davesprite and co. And go back then it would have already happened
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>>81992210
oh boy official cosplay music videos
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>>81992125

karkat makes perfect sense when you recognize that andrew hussie is a smuglord millenial dipshit who hates anybody who cares about things and loves smuglord millenial dipshits, which is why he tonguefuck's vriska's asshole so hard, and is another reason why caliborn is the best/only good character, for directly calling hussie a cunt
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>>81992226
You know what that means!
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>>81992230
I feel like it's why Undertale and SU did so well

People wanted something that wasn't choking to death of smug self-important 'ironic' apathy
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>>81992241
now there's a silver lining if i ever saw one
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>>81992230
You're a millennial. If you're not, you shouldn't be posting here or caring about homestuck.
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>>81992210

>Collide and Act 7 are on Youtube because Hussie needs to build a subscriber base so he can start making ad money off shitty Homestuck Youtube videos with Dante Basco

It all makes sense now. This is "The rapture". The act of selling the fuck out and destroying any remaining integrity the comic had.

The epilogue will come in shitty Youtube clips spread out over a long period of time to get as many views as possible. Bank on it.
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>>81992217
please tell me you're at least using the tomorrow 4chan theme
you gotta take good care of your eyes man
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>>81992241
>drunk slut eats some cotton candy
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>>81992222

Just stop talking, you have no idea how this works. I am not just talking shit. You legitimately completely misunderstood several plot points.
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>>81992125
i'm still confused how Terezi and Kanaya were allowed to fight along side the kids while Karkat just accepted he was useless
Kanaya didn't even do anything
and Karkat thought not the strongest characters still was in the same game as long as the rest, and supposedly faced his denizen like the other trolls apparently
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>>81992276
the honest to god finale of homestuck didn't break 500k views yet, what videos could they possibly make to be profitable?
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>>81992267
We're all millennials, anon. We're all the latest and hotest trend meme buzzword fuckcuckboi.

I think it's being used in a derisive fashion. I don't care for some shitty media-hyped generational label, so to me 'millennial' is just an empty insult to people in the gigantic age range it covers who cling to it and self-serving apathy as their only identity.
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>>81992313
Terezi was legitimately useful. She's a good fighter.

Kanaya, on the other hand, should have stayed with Karkat.
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>>81992260
I don't know anything about SU but Undertale was full of "no, but do you get it, though" ironic detachment. The whole "anime is real / anime is not real" Fandom thing is a minor example, but the current of it runs through Undyne's entire character, the True Pacifist boss fight and so on. It's full of ironic "intentional" badness and cliches, exactly the way Hussie used to justify his writing fumbles.
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>>81992230
Hussie is actually a Gen-X'er but just barely.
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>>81992241
Why is Jade so prolific
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>>81992230
isn't hussie like 40
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>>81992314

500k views is very much profitable anon.
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>>81992282
what am i fuckin' stupid, of course
thanks for the concern tho
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>>81992143
Oh man
You realize what this means? Tumblr crying as all their trans giant hairy headcanons are torpedoed into the ground
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>>81992326
Kanaya was still a rainbow drinker, but hussie forgot about that i guess
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>>81992342
He's 36 or 37
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>>81992342
36
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>>81992328
The difference is that Undertale felt genuine, is what I mean. It cared about characters, life, and something that wasn't just endless slaughter and quick quips. It had, you know, heart. Comedy. It felt like an honest effort.

Homestuck just felt like its soul had died a long time ago and we watched the corpse jerkily walk into the grave as it mime'd the things that made it so great once.
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>>81992354
500k views on an animation that took months to make and was highly anticipated for even more months is not profitable
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>>81992314
Why do they need much, the cash pillow of the kickstarter will make basically anything additionally profitable.
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>>81992125

the tone is so far off in the ending. why is one of the earliest characters and the original 4 trolls a joke character now

>>81992342

he described his circle pretty accurately though
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>>81992342
36. He's still a millennial. Which should tell you how pointless a word that is anyways.

We're all Generation Internet Fuckwits, and so is he.
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>>81992381
they already burnt out the cash pillow on their old NY game studio
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>>81992313
Karkat was shown to have as much potential as everyone else, and was far from useless.
>bonds with motherfucking Spades Slick
>shooshes Gamzee muderhobo the fuck out
>kills monsters just fine in Make Her Pay
Him being reduced to a complete joke for the one of the final flashes was a travesty.
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>>81992376
I walked away from both Undertale and Homestuck feeling like I knew a little bit about their creators.

The difference is that Undertale made me like Toby Fox, and Homestuck made me hate Andrew Hussie.
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>>81992319
> is just an empty insult to people in the gigantic age range it covers who cling to it and self-serving apathy as their only identity.

You're not unique in your undeserving self-importance for not saying fuck boy and not caring about Zayn Malik
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how come Terezi wanted to John to save Vriska but none of the other trolls who were just prototyped anyways
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>>81992398
I doubt they burnt every bit of it. There's savings.
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>>81992436
Because Vriska is Hussie's waifu
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>>81992363
And their gay headcanons
Might be good
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>>81992398
>NY game studio

Hussie is truly a fucking idiot

He couldn't even write a contract to protect him legally before he handed out money and now he's fired half the team and is burning through the rest of it 4 years later with nothing to show but a redo of a redo of a redo

Have fun burning to death in the massive pile of Failed Kickstarter Wannabes, Hussie. Hope daddy left you a big fat inheritance to coast on because you're approaching 40 and don't have a fucking thing to show for 7 years of work.
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>>81992241
>this ain't no $15 garterbelt u h8ers quality lace
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What happened to the music team? Where are they now? Is album 10 ever gonna happen?

I'd really like to know what when down beyond the scenes regarding the music team (other than the Bolin thing obviously). The music was always my favorite part of Homestuck.
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>>81992475
I can only imagine the shit ipgd knows and saw happen. Poor fuck. If she has any sense she'll look for her first chance to jump ship to a better career for herself and reduce Hussie to a reference name.
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>>81992210
>a bunch of people central to the production of Homestuck
So, just Hussie?
Unless...

GHOSTWRITERS
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>>81992380

It took months to make by basically one person. And further videos will take way less effort but still get lots of views. And for each additional video, more money starts piling up.

At least that's the plan, but if this really happens, I have little faith that future videos will be any good.
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>>81992475
Toby Fox made Undertale
Bowman struck out on his own

No idea about the rest

Album 10 is DAOOTS
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>>81992498
I don't necessarily mean drama, just the processes and what could have been. (Although I do love gossip too.)
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>>81992125
Karkat's significance to the plot as a whole isn't entirely negated by him not doing a whole lot of anything in the final battle. He was a huge part in shaping the story.

The thing to be disappointed about is the entire underwhelming ending. Nothing of significance happens after Vriska is retconned back to life, and that was the last interesting moment in the story. There is literally no other interesting event from that point onward, the whole thing could have ended right there with a "And then they won" nothing about the plot would have changed.

It was all fucking rushed, and we knew it was going to be rushed because of that shitty game that's never going to come out, and be total shit even if it does.
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>>81992517
>Toby fucking won the Homestuckbowl with a superior product made in nearly one fourth the time at barely any cost

Like if you told me this shit back in 2010 I would have told you to go fuck yourself

God I wonder what happened to everyone, ALL the music and artists, though I think I recall a shitload of them ended up alright or with careers at big companies
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>>81992506
there's already:
>a music team which still kind of exists
>an art team
>the old pre-act 6 art team
and with the recreation of what pumpkin there's a wide swath of assistant executive middle financial managers to pick from
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>>81992464
i honestly have no clue what is the thought behind hussie's mind?
during Act 6 he seemed really quick to pander to vocal fans (i assume becuase he didn't want to loose any who buy his shit)
but then now he just didn't give a fuck about any of the fans or the comic, not even to an extent that "its fun to fuck with fans because it's just for laughs" like he just wants to piss everyone off intensionally
which is odd considering the kickstarter shit failing on him, lots of fans being lost to. it seems keeping fans would be more important than anything

Is he financially invested into his comic or what? he can't possibly have enough money stored away to keep him going till retirement, i guess he can just fall back on his degree and return to the life of a salary man if shit hit the fan that hard
but what is even going on with him, the comic, and money
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I am a Vriska fan and I also feel empty.

Fucking really, her plan went well? No GCTavsprite kicking her ass or Karkat cucking her out of her leadership role?
And (Vriska) didn't come back to humiliate her?
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>>81992565
isn't lexxy working for blizzard now?
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>>81992574
I feel like Hussie just stopped caring. If you compare to the early days there's a large shift in tone. Act 6 is like 90% dialogue and self-parody.

Pretty sure Dirk's logs with the auto responder mirror Hussie's relationship with Homestuck. Arquiusprite is what we got in the end.
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>>81992574
he's a rich white boy from the most suburban rich white boy town imaginable in M-fucking-A

he'll be fine, he just has no career or artistic integrity, or talent, or internet love anymore

He's a hasbeen.
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>>81992588
>And (Vriska) didn't come back to humiliate her?
(Vriska)'s story ended, she and (Terezi) are together forever in irrelevancy
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>>81992436
All John had to do was get rid of the glitches (which he did) and take back the life ring before spiderthighs got it (which he also did) but apparently that wouldn't fuck up the story enough.
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>>81992606
>Arquiusprite is what we got in the end.
Which is to say I think Hussie went "fuck it" and just started filling the comic with ironic shit to amuse himself, like Homosuck and the Davepetasprite / Arquiusprite bro hug bump. Not comparing Arquiusprite to the ending.
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>>81992565
I'm not surprised, I always knew Radiation was talented. Okay, maybe I didn't expect Undertale to be THAT much of a success...
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>>81992588
(Vriska) got lost in the desert and overtaken by a skinwalker. The Vriska you see from trollpirates onward is said skinwalker.
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>>81992615
>no (Karkat) at sight to reunite with (Terezi)
Fucking bravo.
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>>81992633
I sure didn't. I thought to myself "Oh this demo is cool, good on Radiation, I don't think it'll be as big as the Homestuck game but I wish him the best"

Dude fucking knew

He fucking KNEW
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>>81992606
>>81992630
I can buy this.
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>>81992648
It still makes my stomach cold to think that we just... let every character we knew and had followed up until now just, poof. Gone. Dead.

Like if the retcon had something insane like not make more ghosts and somehow deformed paradox space and the rules of life and death, cool. But instead just... everyone dead. Stuck in bubbles. Maybe even all permadead gone since paradox space CEASED TO EXIST in the ending. I think? Who knows.
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>>81992606
>>81992611
being that way is fine when it's just him doing all the work, like he can do anything
but with the whatpumpkin store and game devs its not just him working on his own
and hussie didn't seem to be a trust fund baby, he actually had a job before homestuck
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>>81992651
I backed the game and its the only ks I have done so with and didn't regret the finished product, but I honestly didn't think he would be able to make a full game even more interesting than the demo was.
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>>81992648
Another sign Terezi was meant to be Vriska originally before we had 12 trolls forced on us. She would have been the final arbiter and judge of Lord Fuckin' English, bringing to justice the greatest criminal of paradox space. A plan of revenge and justice so strong it extended across existence itself. Would have been deeply fucking appropriate for a Seer of Mind.
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what's solatrus up to? he was always my favourite
then again i bought starbound because of that so fuck me i guess
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>>81992651
I didn't even check out the demo. I saw Shelby advertising it and went "oh okay she used to date him so of course she'd give his game a bump" then I saw a screencap of the Lesser Dog battle and went "oh okay it's monochrome pixel graphics and the dog is long this is going to be one of those terrible ironic meme games" and then I was completely 100% blown the fuck out, enjoyed it more than I'd enjoyed Homestuck in years
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>>81992720
What about Homestuck do people think was changed along the way?
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>>81992720
I'd be fine with that, but as soon as the trial was over, Slick ambushed and killed English right outside the courtroom, regardless of the verdict.
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remember how Jake had an imaginary Dirk?
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>>81992696
I recall Hussie being on record that he has never held a proper job in his life

He holds a couple of apparently fairly lucrative software patents
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>>81992773
Most everything apart from broad rules of the setting and Sburb? He made it up as he went along.
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>>81992776
In this imagined timeline, English IS Jack. Like, Bec Noir. And yeah, I'd have Slick kill him.

>>81992773
Just 4 trolls was obviously the start. He even said he never planned for all 12. He should have stuck to the plan.
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>>81992792
I think he died in the retcon
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why do people hate Dirk again?
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>>81992939
He should have existed back in Act 5 like was clearly going to happen. Like it's almost fucking blatant how we were supposed to meet the other 4 kids at the start of Act 5, not the trolls.
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why was the art so bad in GAMEOVER
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>>81992939
Same reason people hate Jake and Jane. He was part of that awful love triangle.
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>>81992939
Because he spent 75% of Act 6 being an unstoppable bad ass with a master plan, and he made the best robots, and he was the best fighter, and an unstoppable bad ass, and every flash needed to be about Dirk, because who else could fill the role of unstoppable bad ass?

He was fine once he was relegated to being a fuck up though.
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>>81993037
>Wow this is our chance to see the fucking Guardians as kids and give them all perspective on their lives and fuel for the original 4 kids and-
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>>81993057
To be fair, we did get more perspective on them
Unfortunately, it didn't amount to too much.
Also, the trolls really didn't amount to anything. You could take them out and the only result that really changes in the end is one ship.
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>>81993086
>We could have had the story of John, Rose, Dave, Jade, Karkat, Terezi, Tavros, Kanaya, Jane, Dirk, Roxy, Jake, and them all fucking around in an intense 12-way timefuck while fighting Bec Noir and Spades Slick, all of it neatly wrapped to an endearing life-lasting story of amazing fucking experimental work, done in a clean 2-3 years tops

>We got this
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i'm starting to think bro was the most competent person ever, but it's probably just me misinterpreting things
he knew dave's meteor was going to fall, he even had the shades to protect him from day one, and he might have been abusive as hell but time players have it rough and being desensitized is a boon for them
and his nearly first reaction to seeing jack noir with first guardian powers was to ram his katana into the scratch construct
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>>81993086
Well fuck me, you're right. They really DID do nothing. Even now the implication is that they'll fuck off to their own self contained part of space.
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>>81993138
>and his nearly first reaction to seeing jack noir with first guardian powers was to ram his katana into the scratch construct
jack didn't have first guardian powers at that point
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>>81993157
fuck of course i'd fail basic timelines
welp
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>>81993149
Are people still working on that edited version? Seems like a good idea to cut out all the extraneous junk.
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>>81993054

Remember when everyone was always SO SURE that he would fuck up, that he was set for a big fall, that his facade would crack and he would turn into a whimpering mess and he would finally become a good character instead of a perfect machine, and then it didn't happen, and it kept not happening, and every time we were like THIS TIME he will finally fuck up, and he never did.

But then it turned out he was actually a fuckup all along, just not in the ways we expected to see.

Pretty good actually, though I still don't like him very much.
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>>81992939
The way the other Alpha kids were so helpless early on that they needed the ninja roboticist to carry them was clearly an intentional subversion of the expected order of things. However it wasn't very fun overall, more like an omen of unfun.
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>>81993149
>>81993086

It's easy to feel like the trolls didn't do anything because when you look at the lilypad at the end you see the kids winning the game and the trolls being off to the side like afterthoughts.

But then you suddenly remember that Vriska exists.
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>>81993261
who was fighting a villain that ultimately did nothing to the kids
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>>81993332
Sound and fury.

Signifying nothing.
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>>81993086
but davekat anon!
>>
I liked the beta kids
I liked the trolls
I liked the alpha kids
Fuck I liked the alpha trolls too although only because they were one-shot jokes

The ending wasn't great but damn you nerds are negative

Only characters I didn't really care for were Aradia who felt like a walking plot device, Tavros who got a little grating especially since he never did anything, and Jane who was just boring but it's OK because she's kind of hot

Everybody else was varying degrees of funny and enjoyable and I'm glad not literally all of them died.
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>>81993407
didn't happen and amounted to nothing. Dave's romantic developments mostly happened with Jade anyway. Out of all those, rosemary was the only one with mild significance, but then that had no real payoff and their arcs and plot points were separate mostly
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why was Vriska not on the platform
did LE lose
when did they fight Caliborn
did the sprites do anything
why were the ancestors irrelevant
despite having cool characters, why did everything after the scratch not matter
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so when do we tell liveblogger about daves hair?
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>>81993364

These trolls are way too big to still be grubs, Vriska is seen to be already human-shaped as a toddler.
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>>81989176
>filthy troll concepts of love
Not on John 'if it's pale or black your spine's gonan crack' Egberts' watch
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>>81993448
it's funny on a reread how not subtle davejade is
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>>81993585
To be fair grubs are about the size of normal babies
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>>81993364
>tavros' hair
holy shit thats adorable
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>>81993602
Newborns maybe, and then they pupate into normal babies
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>>81989290
>He opens the door.
>They fight Caliborn
Nope. It's specifically mentioned that John's retcon powers are used. No juju doors or anything like that.
>this desperate to cling to a happy ending
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Which one looks better? The black outlines aren't final, just a test.
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>>81993675

The right one looks like shit.

Stick to black outlines if you cannot into contrast, shadows, depth and reflections.
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>>81993642
Will Karkat have to raise the new troll generation
>>
>>81993675
left
be careful with the cheek though, the red would be facing the direction of the face not the viewer
right now it looks like a boob
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>>81993723
Him and Kanaya, yes.
He's either a cuck or the king of babies
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>>81993771
karkat is having threesomes with dave and jade while banging davepetasprite on off nights
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>>81993805
Dave and Jade are both monogamous, sorry.
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Well they seem like a nice couple
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>>81990827
>Free Will
>>
I want a slice-of-life webcomic set long after sburb about a troll running away to a mainly human world and has to learn the culture.
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>>81993872
>it's pretty easy because troll and human cultures are mostly similar
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LONG LIVE KING KARKUCK

FOREVER DOOMED AS SHIPPING BAIT CHARACTER WITH ZERO POTENTIAL

>"I BEAT A MANLET TO ENTER THE NEW UNIVERSE AND THIS SURELY WON'T FUCK ME UP MENTALLY" -KARKAT VANTAS
>"ALL OF MY ALTERNATE VERSIONS ARE SHITTY LOSERS AND SO ARE ALL THE MINOR TROLLS" -KARKAT VANTAS
>"I WISH I COULD BE A KANAYA CLONE AND I HOPE DAVE MARRIES ME UNTIL JADE KEKS ME" -KARKAT VANTAS
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>>81993882
But what if its a purple blood? Then it'd be like one of those "rich royal kid runs off to learn what normal life is" animays
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>>81993929
>not having it be the other way around
>not having a real life Thresh Prince
>>
What made Lime bloods so powerful?
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>>81993872
>about a troll running away to a mainly human world and has to learn the culture
isnt that part of the plot of the game
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>>81993971
Isnt it gonna be accidental in the game? And I was thinking after-sburb where trolls, humans and carapacians are spread around the galaxy so humans know about bloodcaste

>is a purple blood so royalty
>has to hide blood color so isnt treated like royalty (and feared)
>since purple bloods are more violent and have difficulty supressing emotions getting flustered and embarrased is dangerous cause blushes purple
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>>81993706
>>81993752
Fair enough. I've also been working on it for too long, so. Thanks for the feedback.
>>
Aradia was the true leader of Sgrub, correct?
>>
>>81993882
But since apparently only Karkat and Kanaya and maybe Terezi survived the only things left of alternian culture are shit romcoms and freezing cruel justice.
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>>81994312
that makes it even easier
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Jade!
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>>81994723
That's a big dog.
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>>81994805
For you
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>>81994805
It's a small Jade.
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>>81994723
now that's the kind of a bitch that punishes the ground with each megalithic step
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>>81994723
Jade loves her doggy
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>>81994842
She doesn't look that fat
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>>81994867
She's fat in the right places
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>>81994867
I love how it's impossible to tell if you misunderstood the joke or made a retort looping back to the beginning
how mathematical
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How can I steal Hussies art and writing skill? Or is it already too late to leech the knowledge from his corpse?
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>>81994958
It's all leaked now now. He went too fast and loose.
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>>81994723
Will Jade get a new dog
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>>81994991
She'll get several, but they'll take a while to arrive. About nine months to be exact
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>>81995013
If that's how long it takes carapaces are shit at delivery
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>>81995037
You dare insult MAIL?! you DARE insult...
JUSTICE??!!
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>>81995079
PM isn't a midwife
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>>81990427
so did rose.

through alchemy.

They're just the base uniform, the powers aren't tied to them.
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>>81993969
I'm guessing lowblood psionics and highblood mind control but at a much higher rate than any other bloodtype.
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>>81995085
Damn right, she's an endwife
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>>81993969
Truthfully? Probably nothing at all. Calliope assumed they were all killed off because of some threatening ability. She was blissfully unaware that her brother committed genocide because an entire blood caste (racial group) reminded him of her.

Remember, the Indigo bloods worshiped Lord English.
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>>81995157
he could wipe out an entire caste but he couldnt kill three trolls jumping on him
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>>81995148

That's just Condy, also a very unimaginative guess typical of unimaginative fans.
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>>81995220
Speaking of Condy, how far did her experiements go? We can see she has all the psychic powers from all castes, but did she do something else? Did she cover herself in black carapace cause that isnt a skintight suit she is wearing
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>thread is still up

>>81995157
Don't you mean Calliope's red-blooded parent?
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>>81995256
No
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>>81995157
>>81995256
Isn't Doc Scratch the one to have fucked up Alternian society, being their First Guardian and also characterised as satan? I always assumed he would have been the one to cause the higher castes to hunt the limeys to extinction.
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>>81995307
>Isn't Doc Scratch the one to have fucked up Alternian society, being their First Guardian and also characterised as satan? I always assumed he would have been the one to cause the higher castes to hunt the limeys to extinction.
The Mirthful Messiahs are Doc Scratch and Lord English. Lord English wills it and Doc Scratch arranges everything.

The Highbloods were the ones who enforced the slaughter of the lime bloods. Doc Scratch, without a doubt, arranged for this to happen. So it's easy to come to the conclusion that the Highbloods commenced their slaughter of the innocents upon some sort of divine revelation or precept within their religion.
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I can't wait until liveblogger warms up to at least one of the trolls and then ends up hating them all over again after Hussie shits on their characters.
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>Blood is actually remembering your scratched existence, just like the Sufferer did to remember Beforus
>Karkat remembers his scratched Beforus self as a shitty bald janitor
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