Homestuck Ending Talkback

>>81966131
Kickstarter.

Anyway, what are the current popular theories for what the hell happened in the ending?

Why is the only fanmade content left from tumblr?

>>81966265
bad defeat
hero win

>>81966131
>Where did everything go wrong?
right here: http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007994

>>81966361
>Not the page when they leave the house

>tfw you didn't donate the kickstarter

I wonder how bad it'll sell.

>>81966385
From the KS updates' comment section, people who already donated are saying they don't even want to play their copy if they ever get it.

>>81966436
jesus christ the ending fucked up everyone didn't it
wonder how mspaf irc's doing

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>>81966361
>Started reading after this already happened
>Wondered what the fuck was with the random arms in panels
>Get to that part
>mfw

>>81966436
can't you remove your pledge at any time?
I don't remember how KS works.

>>81966485
Not four years after the campaign.

>>81966277
Where else would the content come from apart from content creators for these threads?

>>81966456
The comments saying that are from the December or January update; they're more pissed off that the team is only updating people every half a year or so with worse and worse news.

The hiveswap official site is still showcasing their 3D assets and trailer so it hasn't been updating in a very long time, pretty disappointing shit.

>>81966485
No, I'm pretty sure you can't. If the project is fully funded, you're locked in. One of the terms & conditions for KS is that you're accepting that the project may never be fulfilled if you back.

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Buckle Up

>>81966131
Act 5.

That's where the comic stopped pretending to be about Sburb and the kids playing a crazy video game, and started turning into the monstrosity we know and loathe today.

>>81966623
Hey, newreader, you should listen to this actual song from 1909. It's (sort of) the inspiration for the Midnight Crew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARLPT5rKjWo

Ignore the comments and related videos because now it's all Homestuck related.

The lyrics aren't relevant to the Midnight Crew in the comic, but it's a nice song and samples from it get used in a few flashes.

Game Over? I barely know 'er!

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>>81966689
>tfw 100 years ago being awake at midnight was hardcore

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>7 years ago people were saying that Problem Sleuth can't be topped
>They were right

>>81966730
Consider that there weren't widespread electric lights then.

Imagine meeting six brutish gangsters, unarmed, in near pitchdark. Scary as fuck.

>>81966730
>real nigga hours

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>>81966765

>>81966765
People have been saying PS was better than HS for a very long time, but never does it become so clear as wehn comparing their endings.

>>81966765
>5 and a half years ago they were proven wrong
>Then retroactively proven right again

>>81966805
To be fair, I think if PS was even just twice as long it would have gone south, too.

>>81966277
I know a couple people that still roam HSTs are content creators, myself included, I only write though

Angel hangs around still

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>>81966689
That songs pretty comfy

Also on scale of Yes to No, how close am I on this?

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best characters in the comic

>>81966857
Yes.

>>81966904
SICK

>>81966902
>Dirk

Hahah, good one man. That is a funny intentionally absurd statement you made right there.

>>81966857
1) No. Why would a bunch of burly, prohibition era-esque gangsters read a dumb comic for children?
The intermission -is- a direct part of the plot, but in a different way that will take a while to understand.

2) 100%, but again, not exactly in the way you are probably thinking

>>81966902
cutest family, good taste

>>81966841
Yeah but that's part of the problem, isn't it?

If Hussie stuck to his original outline instead of taking on more and more shit to simultaneously pander to and fuck with his fans, it wouldn't have grown into such a clusterfuck.

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If only Hussie sticked to animated gifs and used his own art all the time. I loved that in PS. Maybe add some music when shit goes down.

>>81966689
>I never shall forget the night I made six robbers run
>Although I didn't have a knife, a blackjack, or a gun
>I proved myself a hero of a very high degree
>I ran for home and six of them were running after me!
Classic.

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>>81966902
Only one half of the best characters.

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>>81966924
hes great

Roxy would be spy

Reader, have you seen the MSPA bonus page?

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/unlock.html

It has a few dozen bonus panels Hussie made for PS. This is also the origin of the Midnight Crew.

(Don't read the last bonus panel because it's Homestuck related about a Character you haven't seen yet, so it's a spoiler)

>>81966996
>Jade
>Jane
>Jake

HAHAHAHAHA OH YOU FUNNY

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Was he autistic?

>>81967061
He's dangerous.

>>81967061
just a dramatic fag.

>>81967035
Jade is literally the best

>>81967158
>best character dating the worst character
pottery

>>81967181
She's not dating Karkat though

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Was this the weirdest twist in Homestuck?

homestuck is the mass effect of webcomics

>>81967210
>all the trolls became either the worst characters, or basically noncharacters

Man, if you told me years ago Jade would be the best kid and Karkat literally the worst, I'd have called you crazy

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Mods should hate you for still doing these threads.

>>81967277
how the fuck can you read this comic and think Jade is the best character

maybe if you skip every pesterlog

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>>81967035
They're great when they get to be themselves and interact with the other kids. But really, all the kids would be at their best when they get to truly be one group together.

>>81966265
Vriska was being manipulated from the beginning by doc scratch who put the juju in that location so she could retrieve it. They don't win.

>>81967311
It's rather telling that that pretty much never happened.

>>81967300
>doesn't think Jade is the best character
>tells other people to read the comic

Oh the irony

You know I just realized that this comic would have just worked fine if it stuck with the original kids and had them resolve their issues, grow as people, and beat the unbeatable Bec Noir.

>>81967328
Scratch can't detect things in the void due to Equius cancelling out his omniscence

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>tfw newreader is enjoying the intermission

>>81966131
it was the three-year timeskip bullshit. during which characters had no development. this isn't a 'humans don't have arcs' thing, this was plain nonsensical, and character-destroying. it fundamentally retconned all the characters personalities, turning them from borderline-genius precocious kids who were capable of amazing feats (as evidenced in the preceding acts), into dimwitted shiftless fuckups who spent THREE YEARS doing... nothing. for no reason. just made no fucking sense. doesn't make any fucking sense.

until Act 7 I was legitimately expecting this whole thing to end up retconned and/or revealed as a time-fuckery ruse by Scratch/LE. that it wasn't actually three years and the kids had had their perspectives fucked or were somehow playing their own ruse on the audience by pretending to have become shiftless morons.

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>>81967350
>they have never posed as a team because shit has gotten real

YOU HAD ONE JOB HUSSIE

>>81967300
Jade is the only character that had a full actual arc while still completing her quest, remained consistent in characterization, and ultimately still ended up getting the ending they deserved. Any relationship shit they had was mostly present from the beginning, she still remained able to be funny even at the end, and she's adorable.

English isn't my first language, what do the SBURB logo shaped artifact, the cherub lollipops, and the other jujus have to do with Judaism? Is there something in Jewish mysticism that explains why they're all called that?

>>81967411
yeah but she's boring as shit

so maybe you can check off her "correct character checklist" but she's still dull as hell

>>81967267
it was a twist which felt like a buildup to something greater, which was never delivered. just like all of act 6.

>>81967421
Well you see. The Jews use their evil magic and tricks to manipulate things like the Media and Banks. In Homestuck, the evil jewish magic, called "jujus" take the shape of random items imbued with jew magic, all of which have different effects.

>>81967421
Nothing?
What makes you think they do?
The word Juju has nothing to do with the word Jew you brainDAOOTS shit

>>81967350
I'm still holding some hope for the epilogue. I'm still convinced Act 7 and the pages before it are pretty much a big setup for some revelatory shit that'll take after it.

For sale: Homestuck update, never read.

>>81967251
Thank you.

>>81967513
Hussie is antisymmetic? You're fucking with me.

>>81967518
Really? I'm embarrassed

>>81967444
>boring as shit
Not really. She's cute but she works good as both a straight man and whatever the opposite is for various characters. She's very flexible, and had a good amount of funny conversations.
Heck, the very last conversation in Homestuck is hers, and it's actually pretty good.
Don't be wrong.

>>81967522
You're the reason Hussie thought he could get away with this in the first place.

>>81967585
I realize you are only pretending to be retarded, but just in case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juju

>>81967585
He's not, he just is adapting different words and mythologies to homestucl.
He didn't coin the term juju

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Homestuck went downhill the moment Hussie stopped taking commands

>>81967601
Jade is literally the cutest. I'm glad she got what she wanted.

>>81967623
I have never seen the word juju before. My assumption was not different from the truth in any way but the culture associated. West Africa instead. Now it makes sense, thank you.

Why didn't the Alpha kids get any interesting ideas for sprites both post and pre retcon?

>person to kill Condy was Roxy
>not Karkat/Kanaya/Feferi, who all could justifiably claim Alternia
>not BQ/DD/a Jack/WV, who all could justifiably claim Derse
>not Jane, who could justifiably claim Earth
>not John, who's conflict with Betty Crocker was a running gag from the beginning

I mean yeah, her parent was killed, but who gives a fuck? She also killed Dirk's and Jake's guardians, but they didn't go for it.

>>81967683
Hussie is tired and he wants to go home

>>81967712
Roxys rivalry with condy was being more developed in act 6 than anyone else's

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>>81967276
I think you might actually be right. The first part had flaws but had a good story and was a nice introduction to the world and the characters, as well as having a great murderous baddy. The middle part's plot honestly didn't make much sense and took out bits older fans liked in order to pander to new ones, but it nevertheless had excellent characterisation. The last bit had some good moments that didn't link together very well, and the ending shat the bed so completely and utterly it retroactively made absolutely everything up to that point so much worse.

All we're waiting for now is the desperate damage control DLC that tries to salvage the endings while not actually addressing the fundamental problems with the story.

>Alright I’m starting to lose grasp of which timeline we are or arent in but this is still fucking amazing
That's sort of the point of the intermission.

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>being a Karkat fan
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

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>>81966857
I still don't undertand why people told me not to skip the intermission
This shit is fucking amazing

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>tfw my waifu is going to be permadeath
>no (Vriska) manning up and kicking her ass and stealing her glory
>her plan is just played straight
>ambigious ending
WOOOOOOOOW UNFAIR SHIT COMIC FUCKITY FUCK

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>>81967615
I would prefer the case that Hussie decided to pull an Anno than Hussie just abandoning the other plot points. Besides, why would Hussie put in things like Remem8er and "ultimate selves" if he wasn't going to go through all that for the finale?

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>>81967654
it's okay to blame things getting popular for them becoming awful when it's true, right

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>>81966902
That's not Mituna, anon.

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>>81967823
>>81967819

>>81967781
Remember when dissatisfactory storytellers would be mutilated, imprisoned, or killed for pissing off the wrong people, and it was fine?

>>81967851
Because he's a fucking asshole and an idiot. He seriously thought the story was over. The epilogue was a casual consideration and isn't meant to wrap up much more. He said he was done with the story.

>>81967852
Popularity made Homestuck lose some of its edge(NOTE: Death is not by itself edge), but what really killed it is its endless contrarism

First we remove commands because what's the point of commands in a railroaded story, anyways?

Then we remove character arcs because "People don't have arcs"

Then we remove comprehensible endings because "What DOES make sense, man?"

Karkat beat an unbeatable luck being! That's badass!

Right?!

>>81967821
There are people who see the word INTERMISSION and assume it's unimportant.

Those people are what we here at homestuck not-general like to call Huge Fucking Retards

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>>81967821
AdamSandlerinGUN.jpg

>>81967938
No clovers infinite luck didn't view karkat as a threat

>>81967938
The unbeatable luck being wanted to suck his dick. You want to suck his dick, too. I want to suck his dick. Shit, I really want to suck his dick. Imagine the little sounds he'd make. But the point is Clover didn't focus on winning.

>>81967869
>shitty poly ship bait
>shitty mary sue
And nothing of value was lost.

>>81967373
That doesn't matter. He doesn't need to detect it to hide it. He just needed to lead her they're when he was Lord English conviently leading her right to it

>>81967938
LUCK DO3SNT M4TT3R

>Karkat
>good leader

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>>81967880
Ahhh... the good old days.

Shit, I've just remembered "Lots of speculation from everyone" and now I'm mad again. Its the same godawful storytelling as HS and argrlrbeshgsh

>>81968021
>Explicitly stated over and over again to be
If he were a shitty leader than a ton of things would go very differently

>>81967680
>Jade spent sixteen years completely alone
>will now spend the rest of her life being kissed on the neck and pampered by an army of timeclones

>>81968051
Yeah. As you can see by the billions of doomed Aradiabots.

And how everything goes to shit when Aradiabot explodes.

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God dammit
I can't believe I never caught it before

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>>81967712
do you really not understand why it was Roxy

>>81968085
There are billions of doomed everyone, what's your point

Like, I don't know why you're debating this when multiple characters point of EXACTLY how Karkat is a fucking great leader and why that ended up fucking most everyone over

why did jon's planet blow up after the retcon?

>>81967932
>"People don't have arcs"

That pisses me off more than almost anything else. Even leaving aside the issues of real people changing and growing over time in response, or the fact that given their creation and destinies they might as well be organic components of sburb rather than people in the first place...

THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE. THEY'RE FICTIONAL FUCKING CONSTRUCTS FOR THE PURPOSES OF TELLING A STORY.

>>81967776
>>81967712
It all came to a head when Condy declared she had smoother thighs than Roxy, and Roxy just had to prove her wrong by crushing her skull between her thighs in the end.

>>81968173
IT WAS A JOKE

>>81967915
He said he thought of how the epilogue would for a while as well, he didn't say he was done with everything.

>>81968200
MARIO
STAR

>>81968153
To make room for the planet he was bringing with him

>>81968090
and now the disappointment;
Hussie later brought back the Horse Calendar again, for a set of updates between pauses. HB didn't cameo, most likely because Hussie had simply forgotten about it.

>>81968173
I think that's just supposed to be dramatic irony. Because Dave doesn't know he's a fictional character within a story.

Did anyone here screencap those tweets Halftruth made where she confirms the eggplant color of Hussie's dickhead? Nighttime HSG never seems to have it.

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>>81967962
>>81967821

>>81968052
Jade had a hard life

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>>81968212
I'm not newreader, I'm just pointing out the Mushroom Farmer thing, like how John's modus set gift also explicitly mentioned blowing out cartridges.
I wonder if they'll notice Dave's hair is a bird

>>81968127
>what's your point
>when the Troll session was so fucked, the millions of Aradiabots were proof of it

>mutliple characters
Which ones? Kanaya and?

>>81968173
It was a joke used to justify Jasperosesprite while being layered with Strider-style irony in Dave not realizing he's a fictional character

>>81968213
>>81968200
I know, I know. I'm being irrational. The constant quasi-meta irony just gets on my wick.

>>81968212
Hussie doesn't forget things, anon. He simply stops caring about them.

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DDOTA UPDATE WHEN

>>81968268
Now she'll be taking hard dick

>>81968275
I always thought the millions of doomed Aradiabots was because Aradia was a lot more careless with her time travel?

In contrast to Dave who tried to keep his timeloops stable.

>>81968339
I had lesbian sex at cons thanks to homestuck, does that count?

>>81968351
That counts.

>>81968339
No but it gave me a preference for certain character types and a pregnancy fetish

>>81968339
I lost my virginity thanks to Homestuck

>>81968348
I always thought that it was because the trolls just sent themselves through the meatgrinder in the game and wound up fucking themselves over time and time again

>>81968339
It made me realize how unexpectedly adorable larger poly ships can be.

>>81968339
i want to fuck karkat

>Spider girl somehow ruins everything
>Other spider girl somehow fixes everything
Among the many lessons to be learned from Hussie's mistakes: do not let your dick write your story. Boners can't write for shit.

>>81968275
Fuck you, cunt, for making me look for this

>EB: gosh...
>EB: your team is so crazy!
>AG: Not crazy enough, apparently!
>AG: Actually, this is pro8a8ly Karkat's fault.
>EB: how?
>AG: When it comes down to it, he was pro8a8ly too good a leader! He actually did manage to get the two teams to work together toward the same goal. It could have easily deterior8ed into a feud otherwise.
>AG: He was just so loud and annoying and o8sessed with leadership. He wouldn't shut up! So it was just easier to go along with his plans.
>EB: huh...
>EB: yeah, i can see how that could be true.
>AG: He sure kept us working together, 8ut in the end I think we paid for it.
>AG: It wasn't natural! Pretty fitting, really, since he's kind of a freak himself. He's not even on the hemospectrum, the weirdo.
>AG: I really dou8t he would have handled it as a leader if the shit ever hit the whirling device.
>AG: He likes to pretend he's all vicious and 8loodthirsty, 8ut I know he 8n't got that in him. I have a sense for these things.
>AG: He'd 8e so pissed if he heard me say this, 8ut I think he'd cut it 8etter as a human than as a troll.

http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005368

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This poor stupid soul

Rate the ending.

5/10

>>81968476
Alright, I don't think this person has already read the comic.

I think he is an unawakened Prospit dreamer that is seeing visions from Skaia

>captcha is 2413

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>>81967962
Alright, I gotta take care of somes tuff before I start Act 4

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>>81968476
That last line

>>81968339
Yes.
When I was 14 or 15 I was an active member of the MSPA IRC group
There was this one older guy there who I kind of fell head over heels for, bit of a nutter but really fun
Turns out it was a chick pretending to be a guy all along and I was questioning my sexuality for nothing
Afterward she followed me through a few other groups and then we dropped out of contact when I was 16 or 17
Oh, and the girl who I lost my virginity to read Homestuck, but we didn't meet through it

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>>81968476
>mfw

>>81968476
They really aren't going to enjoy this comic for much longer. One more act of good times.

>>81968468
And she just predicted the truth that Karkat crumbles down and becomes worthless.

>>81968339
I would be into ffm threesomes for con cosplay sex now because of how much fun nighttime /hsg/ made it sound. I don't know who I'd scope out as a Jade cosplayer though

>>81968591
Honestly, Act 5.1 isn't THAT bad

>>81968599
>Karkat is a great leader
>"SAYS WHO??"
>Get linked directly to the fucking comic
>"lol im still right"
No fuck you you piece of shit I don't give a damn

You're wrong, suck it up, the ending being shitty and getting rid of multiple characters relevance doesn't change that Karkat was a good leader, suck my fucking cock and stop posting in every thread about it

>>81968619
Oh you again, try fem daves or lalondes

>>81968052
She had carapaces and Nanna to keep her company

>>81968476
Hold up, liveblog anon already read the part in act 3 where Jack and Brute show up
How has she not put two and two together
smdh

>>81968339
Homestuck does turn women into lesbians

>>81968645
Anon. You fucking trust Act 5 Vriska's bullshit and cite it as a fucking source?

The one who calls Karkat and Terezi a married couple?
Or how Kanaya has a crush on Tavros?

>>81968665
She catches a bunch of hidden stuff, but misses the obvious stuff.

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>>81968665
They addressed that actually

>>81968665
The Bandicoot thing isn't as intuitive as it should be

>>81968650
Oh, never thought of r63 options for some reason, thanks.
I figured daytime /hsg/ would have a different crowd, sorry for being obvious

>>81968699
Fuck you I'm done, read the fucking comic for fuck's sakes

>>81968758
Its all gucci, in my experience Daves & Johns tend to have the most crossplayers

>The story used to be driven by what the readers would input as commands but at the point in the story you just passed that was no longer the case.
>Holy shit that’s awesome
everything hurts, please send help

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>>81967869
And then there's GCATavrosprite.
Karkat and Vriska fans do not know the pain of caring about this little fucker.
It's like comparing a campfire with the goddamn sun. That's how good you guys have it.

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>>81968699
>a character who knows jack fuck about romance is wrong about other people's romantic inclinations
>this invalidates all of their insight into literally anything
Wow cool

>>81968816
You are not prepared to know our pain.

>>81967823
Vriska didn't die

>>81968788
I did. And according to Hussie, Karkat is a joke and a shit leader compared to John, Roxy and Vriska.

LONG LIVE KING KARKAT

>>81968717
Honestly to me it did feel intuitive even before it was spelled out, and when it gets spelled out it's obvious.

>>81968894
Who's more pathetic, Karkat or Anthony Burch

Which troll fans had it worst?

I'm going with Feferi fans. They got a handful of pages and dialogue, and then they never see their favorite troll after her death again, except for maybe once in a blue moon.

>>81968919
I bet Karkat still has his Grub-U

>>81968919
There are people in this world who respect Anthony Burch
The same cannot be said of Karkat

>>81968919
Burch couldn't even beat up a midget

>>81968936
>Feferi fans
?????

>>81968936
to be fair, Meenah was better than Feferi in every single way.

>>81968919
Karkat isn't real, so

>>81968936
when eri first showed up i saw the cape and the gun and thought "okay this guy's gonna be the coolest character"

>>81968981
Feferi waaaay cuter tho

>>81968936
Eridan. He was the true irredeemable one.

>>81969044
>>81969015
to be fair he died happy and just in time to miss act 7

>>81969015
As dumb as he was, Eridan was still a guy capable of slaying angels nonstop to the point his planet became so dangerour all the other trolls were scared of entering there

>>81966465
I remember when they didnt exist at all

>>81969015
He was clearly conceived to be a cool character. He was first mentioned as a "wealthy and influential member of the nautical aristocracy." But then, Hussie happened. All his best ideas are sullied by his mind.

>>81967328
>they don't win
But it outright showed us the new universe they created and how they rebuilt Earth.

>>81969273
i mean i know he was going for subversions for all of them but still

>>81969044
Death as a concept was revealed to be meaningless in Homestuck shortly after his own. It doesn't matter that he killed anyone. In R8m8m88r, Aradia and Sollux were there to greet his ghost, with Aradia smiling and Sollux not upset in any way.

>>81969368
He was unlikeable and did nothing of relevance. That's the problem.

>>81968379
>pregnancy fetish
wha

>>81969427
That's 98% of the cast of Homestuck by the time Homestuck ends.

>>81969368
>with Aradia smiling and Sollux not upset in any way.
To be fair, Aradia stated she didn't see death as a bad thing anymore, and Sollux disliked Eridan.

>>81969450
I thought most of them likeable, despite all the bullshit.

>>81969437
BREEDING
DUTIES

>>81969450
yeah nah

>>81969497
oh that's pretty obvious now

>>81969497
That refers to frogs, anon. Your fetish is for pregnant women having holes opened all along their stomachs that little frogs jump out of.

>>81969437
The homestuck girls are very impregnable
If Hussie can do anything, it's create great waifus

I feel like that one guy who tends to bring up his disdain for the fan cord segment of Problem Sleuth every time we discuss that adventure in-depth was right all along, but also that I only think that part drags because he pointed out how much it does. Still, this is pretty tedious after all.

>>81969485
>John bullies and beats up a mentally undeveloped 12 year old
>Dave mentally tortures Karkat for three years and apparently enjoys it
>Rose becomes a bitch to her alternate self, and dreams of smothering her
Ect. etc.

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>>81968894
>King Karkat will never rule his own sgrub
>he will never cull cerulean girls for a "personal meeting" with him
>he will never have his own harem of underaged girls

>tfw hacksie will never outright just say that trolls are just grey humans with horns
>cancer-inducing bug headcanons will persist forever

>>81969607
Caliborn needed the beatdown.
Dave was just ribbing.
Rose was in a shitty place and dealt with it as she could.

>>81968339
Homestuck made me realize I was a lesbian.
By making me realize I wanted to be a girl

>>81969685
He's said several times that the lazily photoshopped pictures of grey human actors with horns on Karkat's walls are what adult trolls really look like. They literally are grey humans with horns, it's just that their infant forms are bugs.

>>81969719
Go away CWC

>>81969685
He did say it
But deviantart took over Homestuck, so it's now bug headcanons and Jade as a man

>>81969719
Is that going well for you, or is it something you have to keep to yourself right now?

> not even HST could handle Dave's bantz

>>81969698
>Caliborn needed the beatdown.
"No"
He was just busy drawing, then John came along and insulted his drawings, and later just beat him up.
>Dave was just ribbing
Have we been the reading the same comic? If Bro was abusing Dave, then Dave is abusing Karkat. Just reread Penis Ouija.'
>Rose was in a shitty place and dealt with it as she could.
Wanting to strangle living being isn't really what most people consider to be "likeable"

>>81969698
>Caliborn needed the beatdown.
He needed to be stopped from fucking around with Reality the way he was, but absolutely did not need the beating John delivered.

>>81969799
>>81969811
he's a little bitch boy

Abusive dad Dave

>>81969685
>"bug headcanon"
>have a larval stage
>hatch from eggs
>grow wings when they reach god tier
>all of that bug-related imagery
Several, if not most, of the stated aspects of their biology are similar to that of insects. They're a race of insect-like creatures with a few mammalian features and that's just a fact.

>>81968339
Yes it made me realize I was bisexual and I also lost my virginity due to Homestuck

>Dave was abusing Karkat

what website am I on

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>>81969860
Right along with abusive mom Rose.

>>81968006
Remember when it looked like Terezi's arc was going somewhere?
Remember when it looked like Homestuck was going somewhere?
Good times.

>>81968339
It made me attracted to gray ladies.

>>81969862
The headcanon stuff Im talking about people drawing them with mandibles, useless grub legs on their ribs, outright carapace skins

>>81969891
That was her arc, you num fuk

>>81969862
They're a race of mammal-like creatures with a few insectoid features. They were based on Howie Mandel in Little Monsters. Tell me that's a bug and not a humanoid.

>>81969860
>implying Dave won't break the cycle of abusive and be a good dad to his freakish mutant offspring
>implying Jade wouldn't eviscerate him if he did anything to the kids

>>81969751
I've been on hormones for 4 years now and I'm able to fully live my life as a true GameGrl.

>>81969911
I have literally never seen a fanart where they are drawn like this, and I was always mad that no one draws them like bugs and everyone just drew them as Gray humans or with fucking cow ears.

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>>81969960
I'm proud of you.

>>81969427
I liked Eridan. It's been way too fucking long so I can't even remember the details properly but I found Eridan sympathetic even when he was murdering people.

>>81969961
wow lucky you

>>81969946
Just because they're based off something doesn't mean they can't stray from it and develop into their own thing. Though me saying there only have a few mammal traits was an understatement. Half and half seems more fair.

>>81969427
Eridan was funny as hell and had a cool design

I'd trade him for Terezi any day but he was great

>>81970022
I suppose you don't have any such fanart saved?

I was expecting act 7 to be Hussie linking to the seventh adventure slot on the website and giving it like five hundred pages or so, then linking back; that's the only way I feel they could have cashed in every bit of foreshadowing, wrap up every plot thread, and give characters actually satisfactory arcs.

>>81970022
>>81969961
I would much rather see them drawn as bug monsters than as cow-eared goat people.

>>81969957
Why would Dave and Jade have kids?

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>>81966966
>that pic

>>81970053
god terezi with eyes is hot tbqhwy

>>81970074
Surely you mean "Karkat with boobs," anon.

>>81970053
Jesus christ this is much scarier than it should be

>>81970052
Because DaveJade is canon anon

I DON'T KNOW WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE BUT I KNOW THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE

YOU'RE LIKE STEPHEN KING. WHEN I READ THE ENDING TO THE DARK TOWER, IT WAS LITERALLY

>LOL HE ENTERED THE TOWER SHOUTING PEOPLE'S NAMES

AND THEN HE HAS THE AUDACITY TO BERATE YOU FOR WANTING A SATISFYING CONCLUSION AND WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT AND INTERESTING INSIDE. FUCKING BELITTLING YOU FOR HAVING CURIOSITY AND SPOUTING SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT HOW
>THE JOURNEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE DESTINATION

WELL GUESS WHAT?!

YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG AND EVERYONE WHO THINKS LIKE THAT IS WRONG! THE POINT OF A JOURNEY IS TO GET TO A DESTINATION YOU WANTED BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULDN'T UNDERTAKE THE JOURNEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!

IF I FOLLOWED THAT LOGIC THEN MY GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE DIED MUCH EARLIER BECAUSE I WOULD'VE GONE FOR HIS INSULIN BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING TO THE PHARMACY, I WOULD'VE MET INTERESTING PEOPLE, AND HAD TEENAGE DRAMA PROBLEMS AND MAYBE GOT INTO A FIGHT, AND NEVER MADE IT TO MY DESTINATION, AND COME BACK A WISER MAN.

BUT GUESS WHAT?!

MY FUCKING GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE BEEN STILL DEAD BECAUSE I NEVER MADE IT TO MY FUCKING DESTINATION!

SO YES, I AM COMPARING THIS SHIT TO MY GRANDFATHER DYING BECAUSE IT'S METAPHORICALLY THE SAME THING. AND YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT IF YOU SUPPORT THIS.

The only thing. THE ONLY FUCKING THING that makes this all better is that I only joined the bandwagon a month ago. If I had invested more time in this, I would've felt bad. Now, NOW I can just go on with my life. But I feel so bad for other people, who ARE actually invested in this.

SON OF A MOTHERFUCKING FUCK I AM STILL FURIOUS!

>>81970123
speedreadanon's legacy will live on forever through pasta

>>81968476
Have you ever seen someone use "LE" who wasn't a caught-up-ish readers? I call bullshit.

>>81968936
Feferi fans sure do, yeah. Though they made the mistake of latching onto a minor character that only appeared in Act 5.
Tavros fans had it bad, he was relevant in Acts 3-4 (before Vriska took his place as the fourth patron troll and proceeded to ruin the story) and there was a reason to think he'd get a satisfying conclusion other than "tapdance on LE's head, bring bait for him to kill, end up DAOOTS".

>>81970123
This reads like pasta and yet I still agree with it.

>>81969960
you did it anon. congrats!

>>81970159
We've seen a bunch of new pasta in the last few weeks, like that "Dave/Jade is the only ship that makes sense" one

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>>81970123
>literally the only fucking thing not cleared up without inference and context clues is the fate of the kids at the end of the timeline

all this mad f@m

now this was probably written before huss announced the epilogue, i can get that

i just remembered that descend had the motif from the fucking Problem Sleuth title screen
what DIDN'T that track have

>>81969799
Dave was being shitty to Karkat, but they're also close in age. It's more like harassment than it is abuse.
Bro was Dave's guardian and probably closer to twice his age when he was being abusive.

Even if Dave was being a douche, the two situations are not really comparable.

>>81970308
It also has Bolin's "dave vs. bro part three" track that was removed
Which reminds me someone needs to send that shit to liveblog anon when she gets back
This shit is worse than all the other retcons combined

>>81970167
It reads like pasta because it is pasta.

>>81970308
It had fucking Non Compos Mentis in it.

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So, was ARquius in Lil Seb?

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Tell me about this lovely couple.

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>>81966361
The thread could have ended here

>>81970308
>Problem Sleuth title screen
>motif
? PS doesn't have sound

>>81970417
You already know all about them, Bowmanon.

>>81970424
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/extras/PS_titlescreen/

>>81970417
Are they still together and doing well? Bowman looks like a de-aged Robin Williams here.

DaveJade is the only good relationship in all of Homestuck, and here's why:

Both characters built on each other in a constructive way. Dave's primary issue is that he has to be the coolkid. In most conversations, he's perpetually defensive, trying to prove that he's really that cool. It's only with Jade (and Terezi, I suppose) that he's willing to drop the facade even a little. Yet nobody except Jade (and maybe Terezi, though it's hard to say what level of irony she was operating on) actually believes for a second that he is cool. The fact that Jade accepts it is what allows him to let his guard down while talking to her. She enables him to move out of his shell and become his own person.

On the other hand, Jade has enormous potential, but no one but Dave recognizes it. Rose mostly ignores her, except for when she wants a prediction, and John regards her as his silly friend but not a whole lot beyond that. Only Dave sees that, with some help, she could become something far greater than she is, and he dedicates a lot of time to helping her achieve that. Look at the client/server relationships: Rose is pretty hands-on with John, but is more concerned with figuring out the game mechanics than helping John out. Dave pretty much leaves Rose alone after she enters, since he knows she'd find being treated like she can't handle herself patronizing. John doesn't really get a chance to do anything with Jade beyond placing the initial entry equipment. But Dave spends a lot of time trying to help Jade figure things out and get situated.

Basically, Dave and Jade compliment and complete each other. No one else in Homestuck has that kind of relationship.

>>81970446
Woah shit

>>81970424
You got to listen to these sweet tunes.
http://www.parsecproductions.net/music/ProblemSleuth.mp3
http://www.parsecproductions.net/music/Sepulchritude.mp3

>tfw the concept of Sepulchritude leaves a bad taste in your mouth because of the Hussie insert's Sepulchritude shirt

Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Kanaya Maryam? Let alone defeat her. And I’m not talking about Kanaya Maryam. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Kanaya with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.

>>81970515
Love these. Wish PS had a whole album or two.
>Toby Fox will never do a PS track

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>>81970417
bowman's day has long since passed

>>81970591
You didn't even bother to edit the other part you lazy motherfucker

>>81970577
dumbest thing i've read on HSG in ages, good job

Characters who do not deserve to enter the new universe:

Gamzee
Jack Noir
Vriska
The Felt
Karkat

>>81970417
T'morra looks old enough to be his mom

>>81970604
BAPSWINGA

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>>81970629
>The Felt
hold the fuck up my good man

>>81970629
>Gamzee
black hole

>The Felt
WRONG

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>>81970497
It's copypasta but it's absolutely true

>>81970634
my boy bowman did good didn't he
she looks like ideal black queen/snowman material

>>81970629
>the felt
kill yaself my man

>>81970417
are those outfits technically the only real homestuck 'props'?

>>81970660
This is possibly the worst brown Jade I've ever seen, and I've masturbated to thousands of brown Jades before now.

>>81970417
whos that cummy mummy

>>81970660
Why didnt I read the filename, couldve stopped myself from this acid reflux

>>81970758
That's Bowwoman, they're probably married now

>>81970756
Which is weird because the Dave isn't bad

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>>81970758
tavia morra. shes a qt

>>81970783
she looks like a vampire

>>81970758
Cummy Mummy is the worst cereal I've ever eaten. Salty, coagulated, tastes like necrosis.

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>>81970756
Are you asking me to find brown Jades that are even worse? Cause I can. I will go through gelasticat's tumblr I swear to fuck

>>81970691
There's the Con Air bunny (which Hussie has) and Stiller's shades (probably in the trash somewhere).

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Oh Shit Its Time To Eat Clit

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>>81970805
with the mspaforums down, I am 95% certain I am the only person with bowman's fanventure saved in it's entirety.

(unless some guy has an mspa siterip from a couple years ago or something)

>>81970886
The snaps holding Kanaya's shirt together always got me jittery. I just want to pull them apart one by one.

>>81970906
He really does look like a young Robin Williams

>>81970497
For real Dave slowly dropping his persona around her was way fucking cuter than Davekat's sudden "Dave is over-reactive because Vriskagram" stuff

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>>81970417
>yfw you see bowman

>John thinks that everything in his life is going perfect right now. Till... well, he makes a big mistake and creates a little Karkat who also happens to look like Dave... Oh wait.

>>81968936
Sollux, without a doubt. He got fucked out of any screentime for no real reason, then turned into such an absolute mess it became impossible to give a fuck. Then the ending fucked him completely, no idea whatsoever as to his ultimate fate or if he even did anything at all (unlike Aradia and Vriska who each got a few moments).

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>>81970980
it looks like bill bolin.

no wonder he's surprised

holy fucking shit like 10 new fics in a row on ao3 are all dave/kat

>>81970906
Upload it, family.

>>81971050
I don't know. they are the rarest bowmans of all at this point.

>>81971038
>trying to browse for other fics or ships
>Literally every fucking thing has davekat hurt/comfort shoved into it somehow

God I want Hussie to torpedo that shit. He should have never thrown them any bones.

So I've been watching CoLabHQ's Let's Read Homestuck.

Not explicitly because I'm a lazy cunt (which I am, but that's beside the point), but because I want to get through the thick of the story and finish the rest in one fell swoop.

It's a shame it appears to have stopped at Act 6-3, but hell; I'll consider it the helicopter ride to the peak of the mountain while I take the long way back down.

I think the main kids got the best treatment so far, but I'm still in act 4.

>>81970629
the felt did nothing wrong

>>81971038
>here's a dave/jade fic
>just kidding it's "dave discovers he's gay" fic #5123

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>Karkat Vantas never thought he could hate someone so much. That was until he met Dave Strider, his asshat next door neighbor. And god, does he fucking despise him.


WHERE DO THEY GET THESE IDEAS

>>81971064
if you really do have it then post the asian dude

>>81971077
They were all Johnkat shippers, but they jumped ship when they realized it was never going to happen and thought Davekat might actually be a thing

>>81970629
The Felt are a bunch of vaguely dangerous, but mostly incompetent goofballs who follow LE more out of a sense of duty than any actual allegiance. Give them a chance.

>>81971018
Ehh, Sollux never really wanted to be involved in this shit anyway, it makes sense that he didn't get any big moment. (Though that doesn't make his complete absence in the ending acceptable.)

>>81971078
I hope to dear god you are doing a reread.

CoLaBHQ is meant for rereads, giving characters voices before they are introduced is a huge spoiler in a story like this.

>>81967003
>literally a blade wielding ninja
>engineer

>>81971163
>we're going to get all these people crying about homophobia once Hussie makes Dave fuck a girl
>it'll be like the Naruto ending but even worse

>>81970123
The grandfather argument seems a lot like a strawman argument but I don't want to dissent on the rage speedreadanon is feeling because is actually what I felt when I watched the "ending". If we could call it that way.

>>81971211
Kinda-sorta.

I tried reading it a couple of years ago, but I lost my place somewhere in Act 5

The only moment I can recall clearly was when Karkat teamed up with Jack Noir

I'm watching it to refresh my memory of it and get an idea of the story again.

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>>81971152
Last one I'm posting. you shall not trick me into sharing bowmans

>>81971282
We're already seeing people doing that

>>81970001
I love Aradia's treasure trail. It's the little things.

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>>81970880
Hussie actually has the bunny?

>>81970655
>>81970657
>>81970679
>>81971094
>>81971203
>everyone flipping the fuck out of the Felt not deserving to enter the new universe
>no one bats an eye for Karkat

>Perhaps we'll see Jade lay waste to the notion of endgame ships?

>she actually did

Son of a bitch.

>>81971422
Not just that, he also has a couple bunnies from that one MSPAF thing that i was part of

>>81970045
Everyone was expecting a huge dump of content, several hundred pages and at least two flashes. The fact that he had (LITERAL YEARS AGO) said it would only be a few flashes didn't do a thing to curb expectations, because Homestuck is all about RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS OF CONTENT, and everyone thought he'd end it true to form.

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>Karkat went in wanting his car fixed but he came out with a date with his best friend's brother.

>>81971476
I theorize that hussie was the one to steal the cairo overcoat in that 'everyone is lord english' fan thing.

>>81971471
How? She hooked up with Dave.

>>81971348
on second thought i didn't need these memories
thanks anyway

On my first read-through I thought that WV and Jack were the same character until WV: Rise Up.

It's easy to miss obvious things when you read archivally.

>>81971505
>Karkat won't be happy about it

Eridan 2.0 when?

>>81971501
>Dirk and Karkat friendship

Okay?
Or wait, is Karkat dating Jude?

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>>81971504
Oh, someone actually made off with it? I remember being part of that too.
I was considering stealing it because it was actually super fucking comfy
Instead I just made a patch and sent it off

>>81971535
no its even better

KarkatxDirk

>>81971211
I don't see how having VAs would spoil anything, except maybe Doc Scratch not being young and thus not a player

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>>81971529
>tfw you will never feel this sense of accomplishment and surprise at figuring homestuck out ever again

>>81971529
remember when things pertaining to sburb and the exile stories weren't off-hand knowlege?

feels strange to see somebody theorizing about things we've known for so many years

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Can we have a nice DDotA discussion like yesterday's?

Where do you think the story's going? Seems pretty easy for them to just finish the game. Who's the pink mind-controller?

>>81971573
>Doc Scratch not being young

anon.....

>>81971542
haha holy shit.

that's pretty awesome. a shame. wish we could do something like that

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>>81971580
ddota is shit

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>>81971580
>DDotA
it's actually pretty shitty though.

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>>81971580
>ddota
>jane solos condy
>JANE

>>81971605
please tell me you're not that autist, you're entitled to your opinion otherwise

>>81966779
Yeah then imagine if you're completely unarmed, no knives or guns.

>>81971535
Does that mean Karkat is best friends with Joey?

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>>81971603
Well we do have Gristmas, which is kind of the same thing
I've gotten pretty sweet gifts every time

>>81971600
He's as old as Alternia, would you really give him the voice of a child?

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>>81971576
>I can't believe Jade is going to murder Snowman

>>81971534
He'll be shunted to New Alternia before that happens

>>81971657
he... is like 4 children