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So, what are your predictions for the epilogue?
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Disappointment
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Man, Hiveswap looks like fucking club penguin. The only good thing it COULD MAYBE have anymore is lore and story but I dont really trust in their skilla. Why the fuck is the concept art detailed as fuck?
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No resolution to FedoraFreak's predicament.
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vriska comes back and it's all about her
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These Gamefaq pages better come back holy hell
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>>81936746
Putting your head against the wall, you hear SILENCE. The soft wall is ridiculously COMFORTABLE, something you DESPISE with all your inner being. If they're going to lock you up for all eternity they ought to have the decency to make a PROPER CELL.

Placing your head against the DOOR leads to similar results, save for a SLIGHT HUM.
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>>81937234
>tfw it has to be about Vriska or the kid's fates won't be touched on
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https://youtu.be/brTcai-9TfQ
Watch this and pinpoint the end and beginning of your favorite part of the comic.
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>>81936755
If you're upset about the retcon changes, you should know that all of the old files are still on the website. It takes some digging to find them, but here's the original opening to Homestuck:
http://mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/00082/00082.swf
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Joey is cute! CUTE!
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>>81937039
CALIBORN WON
FAGGOTS
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>>81937239
Have you kept note of feeding times, when is the next one? How do they tranqulaise you? And how do you actually pee, is there a toilet in the cell?
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>>81937331
[ERROR: UNIFY COMMANDS]

(i'm going to upload these on AO3 with the commands included)
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>>81937314
Yeah, mostly by his ability to do awesome things offscreen.
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>>81937440
What is AO3???
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>>81937524
Fanfic website. I'd put it on MSPFA but I can't draw for shit
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Somewhat of a redemption
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>>81937524
https://archiveofourown.org/

Specifically, http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Homestuck/works
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44fx8qI9C-8
forgot to post this earlier
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The epilogue will be a 5000 page essay on how great Vriska is
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>>81937039
It's going to be shit.
Better question: What do you people want to see in the epilogue?
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>The epilogue is a walkaround
>The longest of it's kind
>Pick your own OTPs by having characters interact and selecting options

Is Hussie a big enough hack to leave it up to personal choice?
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>>81937650
Some explanations of the loose ends
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Should we tell them?
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>>81937650
Whatever happened to the felt, ms paint, and DD.
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>>81937650
whatever the fuck happened to lord english, except ON SCREEN.
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>>81937645
>Homestuck has too many characters
>musicwank section iintroduced by fucking Mysttuck

hahahhaha dropped

dropped
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>>81937838
I send an ask vaguely explaining it.
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>>81937208
The only recent picture of Hiveswap looks more like Monkey Island, or Sam&Max to me.

The epilogue will have to be whoever wasn't on the lilypad. Ms.Paint? Jack Noir? Hussie's self-insert and whatever other killed characters could survive the house juju? muse!Calliope, who also broke her clock so she doesn't get the reprieve of a Heroic death?
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>>81937288
>mfw keep telling myself 'homestuck was still good at this point, homestuck was still good at this point' until it stops being true
>mfw i can find the exact moment the story went to shit
7:57
tricksters
that's when it started to suck.
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>>81937649
isn't that already what Homestuck is?
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>>81937875
>musicwank section iintroduced by fucking Mysttuck
pretty sure myststuck is mentioned because it didn't have any art team contributions
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>>81937902
I'm sure they'll be fine
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>>81934147
>>81936201
It depresses me to remember homestuck was once funny to read.
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>>81937645
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44fx8qI9C-8
oh neat, I liked the first two installments
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>>81937838
What why is it named retcon actually? I don't remember
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>Nice another PS callback
You'll love GG
And, well, GG
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>>81937977
nailed it
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>>81938139
Oil in the frame.
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>>81938139
The oil that John removed from LoWaS with his retcon powers
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>>81938139
The result of John playing the wind
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>>81937977
>>81937979
What is this?
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>>81938207
An anon set up a blog to liveblog his first time reading homestuck
http://fuckingletmehaveaname.tumblr.com/
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>>81938139
you'll have to re-read and find out
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>>81938167
>>81938189
>>81938194
Oh, thank you. I'm bad at remembering this kind of stuff

>>81938242
I probably will one day when I'm not busy
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>>81938229
I cannot believe that tumblr name wasn't taken
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>Rose never gets to raise the conductors baton
HUSSIEEEE YOU HACK
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>>81937650
What the actual fate of everyone is. That part with them running around in the sunshine isn't even conclusive since
>we don't know when in relation to that they zap to fight Caliborn or why since they're not aware of the time loop
>we don't know if the future beta kids are actually released from the juju
>we don't know how the future alpha kids make it back from Caliborn's planet
>we don't know what the fuck happens to Calliope since what we know tells us the ring of life will be lost
>etc.
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>>81938261
I cannot believe the tumblr name ilovegiantblackdicks.tumblr.com is not taken
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Equius never gets to use a bow.
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If I continue to do this adventure, where should I put it? I've heard that quest threads on /tg/ are cancer, but I don't have images for MSPFA.

>>81938283
You know what? She actually might. Calliope is in the new session, and she has the baton.
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AU where the Gamebro office actually played SBURB ahead of everyone else and were the only people to make it into the Medium before the firey destruction of the planet
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It never fucking happens.
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>>81938287
We also don't know what happens to the non-dead people in or near the dreambubbles. Vriska, Sollux and Aradia can survive the dreambubbles breaking, but it isn't clear if they get sucked in the black hole. If the Beta kids survive, I'd say they survive too.
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>>81938160
Nice
>>81938142
Cool, GG seems like a cool dude
>>81938207
I'm liveblogging my first read since hsg asked
>>81938229
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>>81938357
I'm pretty sure that the point of the black hole was also to get rid of the dreambubbles so the dead can finally "move on".

If John makes it out of the juju, Vriska, Aradia, Sollux are all fine.
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>>81938361
>a cool dude
Anon...:c
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>>81938361
One last important thing.
DON'T SKIP THE INTERMISSION
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>>81937850
There's a lot of things "missing" in ACT 7: some are just because Hussie didn't have the time or the will to write/draw them, but for Lord English it's pretty obvious that he didn't want to explicit what happened.
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is vriska fat
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>he doesn't know about the midnight crew
Someone link him the MSPA bonus pages
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>>81938454
If I read Roses Gamfaqs I aint skipping shit
>>81938445
>2 Girls & 2 boys
Nah thats dumb and to predictable
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>>81938466
>it's pretty obvious that he didn't want to explicit what happened

THIS

If it gets explained, it will be told after-the-fact.
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>>81937645
>the part with WV: Ascend
>rose cosplayer playing violin
>beginners guide
He gets it. Vriskagram, R3M3M3R, Act 7, all have unfitting music for early homestuck. Yes they are good but Id drop the comic if i heard them before.

>people unironically tought HS would be discussed in art majors
Hey, it can actually be but for learning what you DON'T do with your work.
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>>81938493
No, she's anorexic. Stop enabling her eating disorder.
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>>81937305
JOEY IS GOING TO SHOOSH-PAP OR KILL THE CANDYRED TYRANT!
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F
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Anyone interested in a /tg/ quest thread or naw?

Keep it on here?
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>>81938521
>No, she's anorexic.

shes got to be over 300lbs. she might be anorexic if she was like 10 feet tall

she has a problem
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What made Homestuck so bad? Was it too meta?

Or was it using meta as a substitute for good writing?
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>>81938509
Daves Desktop is from AIDS right?
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>>81938676
Yeah, /tg/ is the quest board. It's best to put it there.
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>>81937650
The fate of all the characters.
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>>81938737
I had to work to understand it. It complete fails to spoonfeed me, so it is an objective failure on all fronts.
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>>81938774
Are you still using this fucking bait jesus
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Courteously spoilering for new reader's sake:
So if this Universe C is the cherub universe and Calliope and Caliborn are the new players, does this mean it's the end of new universe being created in this string? Pretty sure Caliborn's session didn't bear fruit. Do you think another planet get SBURB? Did some random species evolve for it on a far-off planet that we never saw or would trolls or humans have gotten it again, or even carapacians? I hate the idea of it being a sickening A > B > C > A loop.
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>>81938737
Neither. Hussie had a very clear and distinct idea for the ending, and when he realized he was writing a plot that went in a totally different direction, he retcon'd his story to fit the original ending.

I'd say Hussie fell in love with his original "THANKS FOR PLAYING" ending too much and instead of doing the usual author thing of just changing the ending to suit what you realize you've written, he decided he absolutely needed to change the plot to suit the new ending.
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THE CONDESCE LEGACY LIVES ON!
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>>81938509
>Nah thats dumb and to predictable
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>>81938754
Someone mentioned an arm earlier?
Do I just ignore it for now?
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>>81938855
>you will never live in the alt timeline where hussie wrote a new, sensible ending and told everybody about the crazy original ending he had planned and was so happy he didn't use because it would have been unsatisfying for everyone
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>>81938957
Sometimes you'll see arms flailing around in the background. It'll make sense in the far-flung future. Don't worry about it.
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>>81938957
Pretty much. I thought the decision to add them was poorly thought out and distracting, but you can safely ignore them. Completely irrelevant.
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>>81938957
Yeah.
Just ignore it.
Or make up an elaborate theory why there would be an arm there.
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>>81938957
Yeah, you will understand it in about 7,000 pages.

The retcon was a mistake. Terrible for first time readers
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>>81938991
It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for him naming the files "retcon"
This isn't the first liveblogger who tripped over them.
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>>81938843
Okay, also gonna spoiler for the new reader.
Session C looks like it's another attempt by Sburb to reproduce after Session B didn't (because later the Session B players jumped off the reincarnation rails with the house juju). The flipped Sburb logo could mean it's going "backwards" to the start, but I threw up in my mouth a little typing that so I will assert that's not the meaning. I believe it means the door isn't just exiting this session, but exiting the system entirely. Maybe Session C was fucked up because the universe tried again to have a baby at too late an age, like trying to give birth after menopause.
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>>81937039
I really hope it never happens. Many people are still in denial about the ending. Don't worry, soon you'll accept it and move on.
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>Feferi, along with the rest of the dead characters, are permanently dead
>You can't even say "they could be alive in an alternate dimension" because the Green Sun destroyed them all
I shouldn't be this disappointed.
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>>81939037
as somebody who was a new reader in 2013 just before the gigapause hit, I didn't see any of the arms until the caliborn intermission. there's a really obvious one just out in the open, I was like 'editing mistake maybe?' becaue I couldn't tell what it was.

I think I settled for a really incandescent bone
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>>81938991
>>81938992
>>81939014
>>81939037
There's an archiver that made a backup of MSPA, and uses a browser cookie to show the armless pictures UNTIL the browser hits the page where the arms are *cough* explained, then the cookie is set and the *retcon.gif images are served. I hope Hussie's sysadmin implements the same someday.
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Quest thread for anyone interested:

>>>/tg/46734308
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>>81938287
I know exactly /one/ person who's cool with the ending, and that's because she headcanons/theorizes that either
1. Somehow, every iteration of a character gets fused into one ('Ultimate Self' etc.), or
2. Somehow, all the dead and doomed characters are brought back to life
Right now she's not in a state of anguish/anger like me and my other HS reading friends but that's because she believes Hussie will not disappoint, and she's OK with the ending being in her mind in the meantime.
I wish I could be like that too.

>>81938737
>Or was it using meta as a substitute for good writing?
Nailed it. Vriska's whole character, cloun, retcons, "people don't have arcs", "ultimate selves" - that's part of the problem. Meta for the sake of meta is shitty writing.
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>>81939155
I'm cool with the ending considering the only thing not clear in the end is the fate of the main characters at the VERY END of their in-comic timeline, and its set to be cleared up.
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>>81939094
The best characters were already permadead and the dreambubbles were a massive mistake.
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I never actually thought of this
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>>81939233
yeah holy shit.

I know where andrew got the idea of the shitty comic (someone post the original if they have it?), but this is a nice headcanon
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>>81938509
>Nah thats dumb and to predictable
well it's also exactly what happens

gg's a she
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>>81939346
shhh
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>>81938754
Yeah.
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>>81937645
This reminded me of the fan music compilations. I got up to album 18, did anybody make more?
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>>81939233
It's just supposed to be a parody of shitty webcomics like CAD and PA, they don't have anything in common with John + Dave besides the colors.
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Is Sollux the most underrated character in Homestuck?
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>>81939404
one came out recently called beforus
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>>81938754
so is his phone. saddens me to think that there are people that don't know this. that's not me being a pretentious faggot, it's just a nice piece of trivia considering there's a direct plug for AIDS in act 1.

what percentage of homestuck readers do you think have read AIDS?
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>>81939428
Yes. After all, he and Aradia are mostly responsible for SGRUB.
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>>81939233
The first SBaHJ comics were posted to penny-arcade forums long before Homestuck, and they were Hussie (old Huss) making sick burns on some aspiring webcomic author who was half-assing it and begging for attention. Especially the porkchop mouths.

In a bizarre twist of fate, Hussie is now known by the porkchop mouth as if it were a trademark, and the artist he was making fun of is forgotten in obscurity.
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>>81939233
Chronologically, SBAHJ predates Homestuck, doesn't it?

>>81939428
Sollux is very popular. At least as popular as Eri.
You're thinking of Feferi. Unless you mean "underrated" as "good character with no fans" in which case nevermind.
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Shitty twists that should have happened?
Mituna was alive under the helmet.
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Bets on how they'll handle the news
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>>81939404
I compiled 22 albums.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/71a3pjnccydzm/Homestuck_Fan_Music
A lot of it is filler content but I was going for whatever was passable for the sake of posterity. The last time I updated it was back during the Kickstarter, so sorry for the lack of recent content, but I don't think there's been that much made since then that wasn't intended as part of a larger album project.
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>>81939603
I've had this saved on my desktop since it was posted and don't have the heart to remove it
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>>81939630
I'd say quite well.
It's not like it stopped me.
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>>81939642
Damnit, this would have made more sense.
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LONG
LIVE
KING
KARKAT
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>>81937039
It's literally going to be gay porn
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>>81939642
> zillywave and sawho
Fuck. This clicks in as a piece of a theory about the Lord class.
The only Lord player we know, he never uses his aspect's powers directly, he always does it through other creatures he commands. (Remember we first saw the overcoat in Stitch's possession.) Zillywave and Sawwho would be two creatures he could lord over in zillyhoo style. They could be the 'best in slot' versions of a Lord-player's minions.
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DaveJade puppies
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>>81939641
Thank you for compiling these, I always enjoy fan music.
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Did Hussie forget about the map
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>>81939982
probably gonna work on completing it for the epliogue.
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>>81937937
>muse!Calliope
>Heroic Death
What pipe're you smokin?
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>>81939428
He's a poster boy for wasted potential in this comic.
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This fucking guy
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reposting from the last thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyUvEixF1HE
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>>81937066
This
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>>81939233
Will we ever have another sbahj
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>>81940066
It's so nice that ugly weird people can find love
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>>81940024
>poster boy for wasted pontetial
>not Tavros
>not fucking Karkat having his good shit stolen by Caliborn and being reduced to shipping bait
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>>81939073
>the next session is a retard
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>>81940019
She detonated a black hole on top of herself as a gambit to defeat or imprison Lord English. Does that sound like a cowardly or selfish death to you?
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>>81940041
well well
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>>81937269
>all this speculation that different heroic characters are destined to defeat Caliborn
>there is absolutely no tension in how he is defeated
>a box full of plot is opened up and he dies immediately with no fight
>it's opened by VRISKA of all characters

Why is she Hussie's waifu
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>>81937066
What else could we expect from CurrentHussie?
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>>81940099
Jade should be pretty and cute, not ugly.
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>>81940136
>he dies immediatley

we don't know, and if he does get defeated he most likely gets sucked into the black hole

>there is absolutely no tension in how he is defeated

we don't know if the beta kids survived
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>>81940118
literally the most heroic thing to ever happen in homestuck
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>the murals celebrating ethnic diversity in PS were a grim prognostication of Hussie's future
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>>81939982
This guy's been keeping a pretty good one.

http://www.rafe.name/niklink/homestuck-map
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>>81940143
Punished Hussie

A Fallen Legend
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>>81940164
how about beautiful and terrifying?
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>>81940215
Nah, even grimbark she's still adorable
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>>81940176
We don't know if the beta kids even fought him.
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Dead ships
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>>81940297
RIP Homestuck x good writing
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Hey guys, I'm digging for proof of SBURB being some kind of entity and not a lifeless chunk of code.
Like, you know, how it's about Horrorterrors vs Skaia, and how Paradox Space has a "will" and chooses what timeline to keep or discard.
Anyone knows where this info was exposition-dumped?
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>>81940297
redglare is an allegory for homestuck
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>>81940297
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You no longer bear the burden of hate.
You have achieved your destiny.
You are free.
The doomed solarafag's folly returned, the equaracunt's perseverance showed,
/hst/'s autism... is the same, your past self's heart freed,
the prophecy fulfilled.
All fates sealed and sins redeemed.
If you have pity, mourn the loss, but let the weeping cease.
Homestuck is gone, and the sun's golden honey gilds the land.


Finally done. No more of this bullshit at any further expense of my

sanity. Yes epilogues may come but I fulfilled what I set out for my younger past self. Thusly, Equara Hate Anon is no more.

http://equarahateanonisdead.tumblr.com/

Come; take this thing from the hand of a freed soul.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/8z6vt1hl5rrlzo0/HOMESTUCK.rar
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>>81940041
>even new guy, right off the bat can tell Rose is a fucking bitch
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>>81940335
fuck if I know. I recall nanna maybe spilling the beans at some point? Rose read some books during the act 6 intermissions I'm sure. I do know that they said something about skaia knowing it's own fate SOMEWHERE in ther though
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>>81940335
SBURB is the chunk of code
Skaia is the entity
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>>81938229
>Keeps wondering about retcon stuff
Hoo boy
Once he gets to that one point where John plays the wind he's going to fucking flip.
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>>81939641
It's been forEVER since I listened to 90% of this, but my personal must-haves are 1 and 2, 6, 21, and Metastuck.

If you only want to bother with one, here's the sampler with my personal top 30 fan songs:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/g164e63aw684ojy/Homestuck+Fan+Music+Sampler.rar
Being that I made this 5 years ago there's a few joke songs included as a snapshot of the fandom at its peak. I was going to apologize for them but... nah, they're still hilarious. I highly recommend the entire thing.

>>81939941
It was my pleasure.
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>>81940203
From MSPA two phantoms were born
Andrew and Hussie
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>>81940297
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>>81940358
did anybody else ever pay attention to these two autismos?
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>>81940215
Jade is incapable of being not cute
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>>81940105
The fact that Karkat didn't end up doing jack shit throughout the course of the story is one of the most damning things about homestuck. All the set up in the world just he was just dropped like a fucking rock.
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>>81940358
;_;
NEREVAR
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>>81940442
no
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>>81940416
EXCUSE ME
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So why didn't the Condense take control of Jade in Collide?
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>>81940378
He's got his head on alright
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>>81940492
she had no idea where she was, surely?
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>>81940358
literally who?
is this one of those 'famous by dramatic death' deals? it's not even a tripfag, just how HIGH do you have to BE to try getting a reputation while anonymous?
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>>81940416
I think I missed out on this meme. What's with the eyepatch and scar?
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>>81940335
Off the top of my head:

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004493
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006606
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>>81940531
MGSV
the response to both homestuck ending and V were very similar
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>>81940513
>>81940477
bowfag has more of a rep than these two 'nerevar' throwing retards
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>>81940143
What's up with his eyes
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>>81940560
Never been a Metal Gear fan, explain it to me like I'm 5.
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Were there ever any Problem Sleuth albums or fan albums or even compilations?
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>>81940531
It's supposed to make him look like "Big Boss" from Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain.
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>>81940580
MGSV wasn't finished, the game was pushed out without an ending.
People held up some hope that an ending was hidden in the game or that they were going to add it in, but alas it never happened.
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>>81940567
/hst/ has had a pretty broad gallery of memorable aspies and idiots, the arasol guy wasn't one of them
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>>81940560
It has nothing to do with the response.

MGSV: good game, not a very Metal Gear ish game.

Neither of those things are bad. As a fan of the series, I found 4 nearly unplayable in how much of it was cutscenes
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>>81940455
>>81940281
If they had puppies while grimbark would they be grimbark too?
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>>81940712
Grimbark removes your inhibitions
Babies don't have inhibitions to be removed, because babies are stupid.
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>>81940590
I recall there being at least one but it was pretty blah. The Jailbreak album was more interesting.
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>>81940442
which 'two'?

>>81940513
I've been mostly active around tumblr, I only came here about 1-2 months ago. I wrote this so I could mentally distance /hst/ from myself.

>>81940476
Do not shead tears for a troll, child.
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>>81940542
You're a lifesaver. Thanks, based anon.

>>81940380
Thanks, I'll check out Nanna's exposition too.
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>>81938957
So the website is real right? I just haven't gotten to it yet?
TT: You're referring to your brother's collection?
TG: i mean dont get me wrong i think its cool and all
TG: the semi-ironic puppet thing or whatever
TG: or semi-semi ironic
TG: man i dont even know
TG: im just starting to think some of this shit is going a little far and its kind of fucked up
TT: I've seen his websites.
TT: I like them.
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>>81940842
Rose/Scratch confirmed.
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>>81940814
I don't see any point in your self-ego. nobody ever really acknowledged you. hell, I don't even remember the janitors removing your posts.
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>>81940814
>. I wrote this so I could mentally distance /hst/ from myself.
You don't need us any more than we need you
which is to say, not at all.
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>>81940416
>candy corn horn
10/10 icing on the cake
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>>81940961
homestuck would have been a lot more popular had it featured the female cast getting raped and abused.
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>>81939428
he's a gary stu and deserves to be poorly rated.
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>ending
>LE is still alive
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>tfw the new reader is loving all the game exposition
That poor poor bastard
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>>81940978
You cared enough to indulge me almost every thread instead of just reporting/hiding my posts. What's the point of any tripfag/e-famous autist for that matter?

>>81940985
>You don't need us any more

Exactly.
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>>81941112
remember when homestuck stopped being about sburb?
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>>81941134
>You cared enough to indulge me almost every thread instead
this is the first time I have responded to you. you said above 'two'. does that mean you were just creating drama about somebody who didn't exist out of nothing for kicks?

I don't get it
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>>81941147
Remember when Hussie actually cared and his soul wasn't crushed by the years of grueling work?
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>>81941107
LE's eyes turn into 8balls, and there is a dark pocket behind him.

He's dead. The game is over.
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>>81941147
>remember when homestuck stopped being about sburb?

It never did. In fact half of Act 7 was Sburb being won, and people all complained about it.
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>>81941299
>Sburb being won, and people all complained about it.
winning sburb has nothing to do with killing lord english and his cronies.
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>>81941055
Scratch's components are a sprite who's a mix of a ghost who's eternally 13 and an android who's eternally 13, half of a 16 year old, and a young cherub of indeterminate but probably 13-16 year old age. Also a cueball.

Rose/Scratch is the pure love of a teenage puppet man and a cute girl.
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>>81941281
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>>81941299
>It never did
incorrect
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>>81941220

This anon >>81940442 mentioned two. There is no two. It's only me. Unless counting my occasional schizo outbursts but that's pretty rare.
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>>81941350
Talking about the Genesis Frog.
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This
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>>81941363
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>>81941299
>In fact half of Act 7 was Sburb being won, and people all complained about it.
i didn't see many people complain about the genesis frog, but i remember lots of people complaining when the sprites set up the grist hordes on behalf of the players
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>Nanaspite tells John to build up to the first gate
>my player's sprite told him some cryptic bullshit like, "If you cannot go down, then you only have one other option."
>player proceeds to ride a firework into the gate and die

In retrospect, I may or may not have made all the player sprites complete assholes.
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>>81937288
Honestly?
I liked everything up until act 7
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>>81941499
this is nice.
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>>81940842
Is this real life
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>>81941525
you're full of shit
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>>81941525
Same here, and I liked half of Act 7 too (Caliborn getting magicked and the Frog)
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>>81941499
>Jade's teeth got even more buck toothed
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>>81941579
h-hot
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>>81941579
Ah, I see you found the smuppets.
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>>81941525
I agree
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>>81937288
The retcon (8:19) is the moment investment in the main story officially flatlined for me, but even then Slick came back right after that, so my favorite parts were 0:00-8:22. All I cared about after that were the parts with Caliborn or Calliope.
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I wonder if Calliope and Caliborn's chess game was meant to serve as instructions.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006932
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>>81941457
>Hussie <3 Vriska
The only canon ship, along with
MSPA Reader c3< Hussie c3< Unfinished epilogue
Hussie <3< Homestuck
And Unfinished Epilogue <> Terezi
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>>81937237
Have a browse around on readmspa.org/stats/, there's transcriptions for every bit of non-reguar text in the comic.
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>Trolls happens
Hussie, what t..?
> A1 kids
Wait, you were doing good
>Tricksters
Husie...
>[S] Game Over
Husie.
>retcon
Husie, really, please...
>Act 6 finale
HUSIE.
>Act 7
HUSSIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>81941878
>implying
Do you not remember hussie being homoerotically interested in his fans?
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>>81941928
>Husie
I spat out my fucking drink
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Who is the best character in Homestuck and why is it Mituna?
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>>81941977
Because like him, you're just a damaged autist.
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>>81941977
>the favorite characters of people on 4chan are the 4chan parodies/representatives
Who would have guessed that they were really the best characters
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>>81941977
He was great.
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>>81942015
Pretty much, yeah.
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What anons do you guys remember from the past 3 years?

HSG-tier anons need not apply.

>that guy that tried to defend 'fast and lose'
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>>81941977
because no other character has ever jittered around quite like he has
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>>81942083
>What anons do you guys remember

None.

Why do we even need to do this?
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>>81942083
The one who discussed cherub sex with me who I started dating three years ago
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>>81942083
Well, recently. There was that one autist a few weeks back who sperged out about his hatred of Sollux, and the dude who tried to speed-read Homestuck in a few days and ended up hating it. The rest just blurs into a mess of shitposting, fanart, weird crap and Eridan for me.
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>>81941977
He's a silly, foul-mouthed guy who has kindness and courage in his heart, even though he's dead, "broken" and an easy target for horrible jerks.
I love him for the same reasons I love Tavros.
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>>81937039
>Spades Slick: Get yourself together

You are now Spades Slick. Your head is currently on a slow orbit around Skaia due to being severed from your dumpass body and blasted into the sky by an explosion. Said dumpass body is orbiting over there. You can't believe this bullshit. You also can't believe how great it is being a robot and not dying from having your head cut off. You take the good with the bad and put it in your inventory. Well you would do that but your War Chest is located on your body. This situation calls for a nuanced approach.
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>>81937234
I never understood this. Hussie's style doesn't seem to fit with Vriska properly, he feels (or felt, as in, before) entirely different in style and irony (when, again, he was ironic) from her and her concept. Why focus so much on her? Rachel? Some other motive?

I don't see it, to be quite honesto fampais. Please help my ignorance of gigantic proportions if I'm being dense so some obvious detail as per usual with this quest.
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>>81942195
Get sucked into black hole and die.
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>>81937288
First misgivings at 3:04 with the troll romance stuff. Fortunately, it redeemed itself quite nicely and soon I was back to thinking the comic was GOAT.

At 5:46 I knew there were problems. The pacing was shot to hell (not that HS ever had great pacing) and I didn't like these new characters much.

7:57 was when the Trickster thing started and parts that were even debatably okay were over.

Then at 9:14 the retcon quest starts and any chance of redemption is lost.
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>>81942219
He probably just likes dominant spiderchicks.
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>>81937039
>New universe is Problem Sleuth universe
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>>81937484
When you're a hero of his caliber, you don't need to bother with meager things like acts of self suicide on screen. You're just that awesome.
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>>81939428
He has zero personality beyond "I am a nerd and I'm smart". Sometimes he's sarcastic. He's pretty much just Karkat but with less yelling.
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>>81942236
>Get sucked into black hole and die

What black hole? You don't see any fucking thing like a black hole from here. You're wasting time, and time is murder.
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>>81942248
Lovely Ladybug crossover / mashup / ripoff
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>>81937956
D8ESN'T CLEARLY H8VE ENOUGH!!!!!!!!
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Is this the single best page in homestuck
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>>81942158
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>>81942410
Yes.
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>>81942352
Okay.
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>>81942248
>miraculous dog
>bird black
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>>81942423
I was the guy who said we got over it years ago. I wasn't even defending sollux
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>>81942219
Vriska started out as a Mary Sue joke and became a regular Mary Sue, for the same reason Gamzee started out as an unkillable mute clown joke and became a regular unkillable mute clown.
The reason is that Hussie doesn't know when to retire a meme.

>>81942248
>Miraculous Chienne
As a French person this disturbs me greatly
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Alright, so we know who said fuck the most, but which speaking characters dropped the fewest F-bombs?

I'm thinking Calliope, Equius, and MAYBE Nepeta are tied at 1 apiece, unless if I'm forgetting some shit with Nepeta. I'm sure the A1 trolls seriously offset it by having such little dialogue, I could easily see, say, Porrim never saying it at all in her 20 or so lines

>>81942410
Yeah
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>>81942510
>The reason is that Hussie doesn't know when to retire a meme.
was there ever a bigger lack of self awareness than when rose said that line on the frog platform
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>>81942473
>Black Bird
>singing in the dead of night
>take these broken wings and learn to fly
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>>81942510
Being cynical for a moment, I would be slightly interested to know how well Vriska merchandise sells. It might explain Area-whateverhernamewas's prominence as well.
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>>81937288
Relevant to this, I frankensteined screencaps of the datavis on readmspa.org/stats/ into one big picture.

>>81937939
>>81941525
>>81941819
>>81942251
Pinpoint those moments on the chart.
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>>81942437
Is that all Jade thinks dave is? A piece of meat to be used?
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>>81942624
I'm sorry but I have no idea how to read this chart.
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>>81942636
yes
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>>81942488
Guess that anon just had his periodic meltdown.
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>>81939428
>gets bitches easily
>literally NTRs other people of their bitches
>overall COOL AND 2MART KIID
>literally steals (Tavros)' moment of independence and gets praised more on it

Yeah, no. Fuck this faggot.
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>>81942698
Dave looks so depressed.
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>>81942698
I've never been as happy to see the felt in fanart than in this instance
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>>81942219
Him being under Vriska's spell used to be funny back in the day. Apparently he decided to ride that into the ground since the comic had become such a bloated chore for him to make.
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>>81942608
Huh, I'm sure it'd be easy for some random WP employee to obtain these stats. Also, number of Peixes shirts sold pre-Meenah vs. after she was introduced.
Maybe we should ask IPGD, but then again she's an unreliable shithead who likes to troll HSG and hasn't showed up here since 4/12.
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>>81940143
Two phantoms: Andrew, the heir to his father's enterprise and creator of MS Paint Adventures and Hussie, product of Rachel's manipulation and pandering to the SJW's.
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>>81942318
>canon relationship with Feferi, implied some attraction between him and Aradia
>hacker, intelligent, sardonic and witty
>shuriken weapon
>very VERY powerful psionic
>dark troubled personality
>much more competent than main character and oh so apathetic about it
>Mage of Doom
>Mage
>of
>DOOM

yeah no. this shithead can stay 1/2DAOOTS. smarmy little nerdling fuck
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>>81942763
He's smiling
It's that early morning feeling when you wake up and see your gf sleeping peacefully next to you, even though you're tired you're still satisfied
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>>81942815
>and hasn't showed up here since 4/12.
she said hope you guys enjoy the end or something along those lines at like 15 past midnight on 4/13
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>>81942724
Maybe it's that he's a lowblood? And somehow we were to assume that they're the "good guys"? Whom we were supposed to root for? But that doesn't explain Vriska or Gamzee
>>
GUYS

GUYS GUYS GUYS

STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE ENDING

The journey was the true treasure all along:^)
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>>81942892
only works if you're the one on the journey
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>>81942763
He's just so tired.
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>>81942856
>It's that early morning feeling when you wake up and see your gf sleeping peacefully next to you, even though you're tired you're still satisfied
I don't know that feeling, unfortunately.
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New guy is nearing end of act 2
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>>81942892
HOLD UP ONE GODDAMN SECOND
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>>81942856
Oh.. y-yeah... feel it all the t-time man..
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>>81942158
>and the dude who tried to speed-read Homestuck in a few days and ended up hating it
this guy was also immortalized in his spectacular rant here >>81942997
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>>81942763
>>
The biggest problem with Homestuck is not keeping Jack as the main villain and introducing the cherubs.
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>>81943073
>compare
You're right, alien dick is FAR worse.
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>>81942083
fast and loose = time for good writing
effort put into art = act 7
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>>81943004
it's a good feeling
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>>81938759
Fuck, I hate that it's basically the case. Endless neverending quest threads are the blight of teej. /qt/ would be a huge boon to the website, and not just because of the mixups.
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>>81943188
>/qt/
>quest threads and cute things
>>
I can't stop listening to Heir of Grief
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>>81942680
Okay,
- the white bits at the top represent Jailbreak, Bardquest and Problem Sleuth. Bardquest only a tiny amount, Problem Sleuth by far the most.
- The first few red parts are the early acts of Homestuck, the green piece being the Intermission
- The blue piece is Act 5 Act 1 and the red piece after Act 5 Act 2, with the green bit being Doc Scratch's narrative hijack.
- Finally the long green stretch is Act 6 in its unholy glory. Linesplits denote subacts and intermissions, the pink section being the Trickster arc. The segment further enclosed in dark green is Act 6 Act 6.
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>>81943161
So how exactly does Jade end up wearing his shirt?
>>
What if Jade isn't very good at speaking in public or interacting with people because she's spent so long alone. Like she's social, but talks funny and has no idea how to really act around people
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>>81942410
The most effective villain moment in the comic.
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>>81943363
they fug
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>>81943409
>tfw comparing Act 3-5 Jack to Act 6 Jack
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>>81941878
So, the author, the two Mary Sues of the story, the reader and the product the reader deserved but never got. The only characters in Hometastuck.
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>>81943363
Lots of tumbling and cuddling
It gets weird
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>>81941977
Caliborn is the best character made in all fiction for epochs now. LONG VIDA EL CALIBORN!
>>
New reader anon, I just finished WV:ascend
It was pretty cool
I have to take care of some things, but I'll let folks know when I'm back
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>>81938466
That's what i hate the most about Act 7 and Hussia Zahaak.
HEY GUYS, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THEY MANAGED TO DEFEAT DEMONHEAD MOBSTER KINGPIN? HAHA TOO BAD, FUCK YOU.

How could he have delivered back then but couldn't now.
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>>81943563
Fantastic. Been loving your liveblog so far.
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>>81943409
I hate how Bec Noir ends up just being flicked off by PM because he isn't "angry enough". It seems like such a tremendous fucking waste. Same goes for the rest of the villains in Collide. It's so blatantly "we don't want to bother killing off these ultra-strong bad guys we made so we'll just make them weaker"
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>>81943563
WV: Ascend was one of the most magical things I'd ever seen when it first went up.
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>>81943161
So how many Homestuck-reading westaboos are there?
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>>81937314
I like this ending t-b-h.

Caliborn was the best character of them all.
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>>81943563
Your blog is lovely so far.
Keep in mind that even though there are 6 (technically seven) acts, they get progressively longer. Act 5 is as long as the first four acts combined, and Act 6 is half the comic.
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>>81943652
Not a lot
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>>81939094
No, because Aradia did the same thing, when Aradiabot saved the 12 from Jack Noir approaching.
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>>81943188
You and me both, anon. Remember when it wasn't just quests and endlessly renewing generals? Remember when people risked making their own threads when they had an idea or a question rather than putting it to the same handful of people endlessly talking about the same handful of topics, day in, day out, for eternity?
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>>81943739
I don't understand what you mean by "no".
>>
>>81943652
They were in steady decline since about a year ago... Then memegame released and they pretty much all flocked to that.
>>
Did that anon ever get around to doing the drawings of everyone's god tiers?
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>>81942158
>lots of inane shit mentioned
>and Eridan

Gotta love that guy.
>>
>>81939428
Yes, the implications of him being actually a siamese twin, his doom aspect and how he wears both universes with his glasses (which go away once they are destroyed) basically were put aside.
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>>81943359
Good Lord, Act 6 really is the worst part of the whole thing.
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>>81943629
WV: Ascend was when my mind was completely and absolutely blown as a first-time reader. The music, the scope, the visuals -- holy shit.
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>>81939569
In the near-distant future, SBAHJ and the Stair-chapter in particular will be Hussie's most recognisable work.
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Toughs on this fan troll coldplay thing?
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>>81943836
it's going a bit slow but he's workin on it
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>>81939630
They were funny, but once you realise that all their discussions are basically different iterations of pic related it gets old fast.
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>>81944032
>coldplay
I don't know why but that caught me off guard

>>81944070
can I have a link to his tumblr? quite a few people responded to him if I recall
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>>81937260
>>81940297
>>81940817
Suck my dick, katnep shippers. Karezi is the true katship
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whale fucking a penguin
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>>81940378
I think it's a good thing Roxy never met AlphaRose.
If a kid engages in one sided all out passive-aggressive war with their parent, it's quite hilarious.
If a parent does this with their kid, it makes for a sad Roxy.
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Why did John think sticking his entire fucking arm into a hole in reality was a good idea?
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>>81944200
becuase fuck you, thats why!

*turn down for what!*
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>>81944200
in his defense, it did turn out to be a good idea.
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>>81944093
I mean cosplay.
Somebody posted this on [spoilers]Facebook[spoilers]

And I tough she was cute
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>>81944032
>Coldplay
So she's an ancestor?
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>>81944070
Has he posted any? I'm excited to see his work.
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>>81944127
Why can't more people have taste as good as you?
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I don't remember this at all.
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>>81944127
Damm right Too bad we're dead too
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>>81944172
Hot dog in a hallway.
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>>81944330
I remember that
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>>81944335
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>>81941977
Hussie made him unintentionally sympathetic.
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>>81944093
http://celebratingwithco.tumblr.com/
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>>81942410
Yes
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>>81944251
That Jade is cute
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>>81944127
that's not very nice
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>>81943760
Preach it man. Not even thread I actually like (CYOA, 30K) are safe. You can literally bingo them.
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>>81944127
Nepeta was barely a character and had barely any real teases with Karkat, yet her entire existence now apparently revolves around him

Like the Davejade shippers I get, but Katnep makes no sense. It sounds like a major case of them projecting onto a flat character
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>>81944472
Nepeta's also a shit character.
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>>81944364
man I really forgot about this
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>>81944382
I don't think it was unintentional? He made a heroic sacrifice to save his shitty teammates and suffers some harsh consequences, and it's implied he was being manipulated by the mime. It's hard to say how much of the vulgarity he spews is him and how much of it is the brain trauma. And his eons-long matespritship with Latula is one of the few actually healthy and good relationships in the comic.
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>>81944521
Katnep is the Davejade of the trolls
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>>81944521
This happens with any background character that doesnt give fans much to go on. What little butter there is will be spread as thinly as possible
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>>81944333
>>81944521
It's the same reason behind every other dead/nonsense ship. You ship not because of canon status, or depth of characters or 'chemistry' or what have you. You ship because *you* think it's cute. That's it There's nothing else to it.
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>>81944667
Is that why Latula pretends to be stupid shit?
Because she knows, his retardation was an inside job?
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Gotta wonder if the Cherubs reference this in some tiny way.
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>>81944713
I dunno. Your argument is flawed. If I shipped because it's cute, then I wouldnt ship Vriskat, which I ship mainly for S&M and bondage reasons, with Vriska pinning Karkat to a tree while ripping away his clothes
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>>81944656
haha yeah I remember that too
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>>81944866
No.
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>>81944866
It's not
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Can we make Double Death of the Author threads yet? This shit's seriously good, I actually like Davesprite and Jane now
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>>81944898
Each to their own fetishes I guess. But for the larger part the basic principle is cuteness.
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>>81945064
>Double Death of the Author
What?
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>>81945100
>he doesn't know
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good god
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>>81945064
No, we wont because that fancomic is waaaay too forced in its sequence of events, the characters are OOC as fuck, their dialogue is unnatural and they couldnt be even more Mary Sue than it was possible, but Double Death of the Author seemed to break my expectations
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>>81945190
If everyone is a Mary Sue, no one is

And of course they're OOC, canon Karkat for example fucking sucks nowadays
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Just a heads-up if you re-read PS and think to go to Kate Beaton's website on the page with the Henry Clay comic done in her style: her domain was somehow or another jacked by viruses and whatnot.
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>>81944330
I still can't tell if this is making fun of HaV or flattering it.
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>>81944656
Someone shop Hussie's face onto PS

Maybe go the extra mile and put bad HS fanart faces on the committee
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>>81945126
I'm not reading all that shit we have enough on our plate with the regular HS shenanigans
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>>81945305
yes, all those new pages
oh wait
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>>81945232
>If everyone is a Mary Sue, no one is
thank mr lizard

>And of course they're OOC, canon Karkat for example fucking sucks nowadays
This. Karkat not sucking is OOC.
One of the rare moments OOC isn't automatically bad.
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>>81945240
I nearly shit myself when that happened when I was rereading Problem Sleuth.
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>>81945032
>>81945051
>two green u's
>Roxy bought them
Come on anons, shake some epileptic trees with me
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>>81945064
Huh. That's actually pretty OK.
>John knocks gb!Jade out
I_GUESS.png
It'll have to do until we get the epilogue.
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>>81945353
>thank mr lizard
whatcha mean with this, or is it an epic new meme?
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Quick question
Did the anon from the other day who ran an SBURB tabletop campaign ever post his stories
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>>81945305
some of the fanadventures are very satisfying.
Or they're a good source of reaction images. Either way.
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>>81945374
Just wait until you get to the single-paged two-character 6500 word pesterlog
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>>81945354
I'm using Chrome with Adblock Plus and am running Malwarebytes right now, I've been in situations like this before without being infected, for whatever reason. ABP probably kept the payload out, I just got a fake notice that wouldn't let me close the tab until I told it to stop creating additional dialogues, and that loud audio file I didn't hear because I have my headphones off to the side.
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>>81945232
Jane soloed the Condesce in that thing. Jane SOLOED the fucking Condesce. The HEALER SOLOED ONE OF THE LAST BOSSES.

How, in the ever-loving fuck, does that make her not Mary Sue? That's way fucking more Mary SUe than the mess that that fancomic has been. THat thing was made after Game Over, shich reveals the Fish Queen can kill Aranea, which can destroy planets.

JANE SOLOED THE CODESCE
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>>81944675
No
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>>81945386
i remember the porn this artist did
some of the first homestuck porn
it featured kanaya standing, leaning on her chainsaw in the nude, rear to the viewer
and her looking over her shoulder coquettishly
righteous, man
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>>81945441
Does anyone still have this? What was the artist's name?
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>>81945422
It makes her not a Mary Sue because the justification for how her powers worked is in the next page and it actually makes sense SHE'S A HEALER AND THE CONDESCE IS BASICALLY AN UNDEAD MONSTER, and she took her by surprise

And she doesn't get any bonus screentime and other characters get to do cool shit too.

It's more like JANE SOLOED THE CONDESCE, AND BOTH GET A SURPRISING AMOUNT OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, SO I CAN'T COMPLAIN
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>>81945427
>loser beta male and hyperactive furfag gf
>both ships spammed to hell and back in these threads

yes it is.
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>>81945064
I'm very impressed with that fan-adventure, but the author//s have an irrepressible boner for awkward, tender conversations with characters prodding fingers and getting all wobbly about things they (anyone?) wouldn't get wobbly about. The result is a lot of seperate pairs of characters having the exact same one contrived conversation constantly, which happens to also be long and humourless, and that's tiring. Artwork is hella cute sometimes tho.

It's sort of the opposite of the Sburb Glitch FAQ in what it does well and poorly. Both are recommendable, but neither are everyone's cup of tea.
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>>81945371
>epileptic trees
What the fuck is that
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>>81937645
This looks pretty funny.
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in case anyone missed it, I'm doing a quest thread on /tg/

>>>/tg/46734308

Help Jack escape his cell!
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>>81943583
>>81943629
>>81943676
New reader anon, I'm starting ACt 3 in a min
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>>81945377
nevermind i found it myself
>>>/tg/46732046
thanks mozai
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>>81945508
I agree about everything in this post except the humourless thing. You just need to pace yourself, because that happens with Act 4/Act 5 Act 2 too if you rush it.
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>>81945441
>>81945476
Found it on the oldest page of Paheal under her name, not bad.
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>>81945476
no idea on artist name, started with an f maybe?
on page 139 of the homestuck tag on paheal
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>>81945537
Good luck, anon
Acts 3 and 4 are in my opinion the strongest
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>>81945404
Yeah this bit is the low of DDotA so far

On the plus side, Cetus's palace looked cool
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>>81945515
It's a reference to old fandom behavior. Basically in the first episode of LOST the trees shaked wildly because a smoke monster was going through it.
Some idiot's theory was "epileptic trees", and that phrase's now associated with BKEW-style theories.
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>>81945476
>>81945441
I can't post that here. There's no thread on /aco/ so I put it in the homestuck thread in >>>/u/.
Name was fauxmonstur, but they never mention Homestuck anymore.
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>>81945605
Nice
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>>81945376
Its a dota meme.
mr lizard is IceFrog and it alludes to his method and philosophy of balance, which is: If one hero is OP, instead of nerfing him to the ground, make everyone else OP too.
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>>81945422
I thought that was inventine and well-played by the authors. Jane's revival counters Lord English's artificial life curse, thus threatening to age Condy away.

Karkat bitch-slapping Condy in conversation prior was even better. If only the artist could draw hair.
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>>81945481
You, sir, cant be more of an idiot than you already are. If Jane has power enough to solo her, then why in Collide the Condesce defeats Jane while the latter had the help of 4 other players? That fancomic is inconsistent beyond what an idiot is capable of taking. Im not referring just to Jane here, or all the messed up stuff they did just BECAUSE.

Retcon is a better written thing than Double Death of the Author. That fanfic is even worse than Nightfall
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>>81945422
Condesce is a healer too.
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>>81945488
But both Jade and Dave are furfags
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>>81945579
Wait, what, I was saying that pesterlog was really fucking good.

But the authors really suck at pacing long pesterlogs, shame they've said they'll never go back and change everything out of some weird sense of "honor", and so the comic reflects how they get better (as if we give a flying fuck)
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>>81945665
Gosh Condy was so pure her creamy thighs at least. Why did she had to go?
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>>81945064
Who the fuck is this girl on the right?
if they shoehorn dumb OC cameos into this I'll probably drop it

>>81945642
dude, nightfall is terrible but Collide basically watered down every single villain's power level. It's hard to do worse than that.
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>>81937066
DING DING DING
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>>81945427
What are Jades ears supposed to be doing
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>>81945642
>then why in Collide the Condesce defeats Jane while the latter had the help of 4 other players

You do know what fanfiction is, right? In this comic Jane is stronger than canon, yes. Nobody's denying that. Being stronger than canon doesn't make her a Mary Sue, because she's still fucked up emotionally and doesn't steal the spotlight all the time.

Also you kind of sound autistic, no offense.
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>>81945543
I admit I threw the humourless bit in at the end of typing that post, but it's all very mushy prose.
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>>81945710
And she was stabbed in the back no less! Roxy a shit.
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>>81945537
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N
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Wait, this shit's over?

I haven't read it since shortly after we first saw Calliope.

How did it end?
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>>81945713
It might be one of the authors with the hood off, not sure. I also have no idea who the fuck she is, or who the pink-eye-causing-villain is.

In any case you better expect that, because from the beginning it's obvious they saw hussie's intermissions as something to imitate. I wouldn't be surprised if they offered cameos in exchange for "art-team submissions"
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>>81945642
You are aware that most of DDotA was written before Collide right?
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hips
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>>81945515
some theory about LOST where some asshat who saw trees swaying despite there being no waves, and thought the obvious answer was that the trees were having a fucking epileptic seizure.
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>>81945724
Wiggling with excitement
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>>81945783
Badly.
Like pretty fucking bad.
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I got to Act 5

How long before this bitch Vriska dies already? Holy shit I hate her
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>>81945695
Oh, I guess our opinions differ. Between the pacing and the fact that this version is simply not as good as the canon equivalent I can't say I rated it.
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>>81945537
whoops jk something else just came up

>>81945774
hi /sp/
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>>81945742
I think the problem is that Homestuck never addressed some of the character's personality problems to the point of solving them, but still showed that they existed, so the whole lilypad shit where only two characters got some kind of closure and four others were ruined with squaresprites felt like shit.

It's like an open wound, and I think the authors wanted to close it as fast as possible in a kneejerk reaction, but of course that can only be done with a few dozen long-winded pesterlogs in order to make it happen in a short timescale.

I only wish they realized they also should interspace them with less dramatic stuff. They do it sometimes, but the placement is all wrong, and sometimes funny stuff just somehow segues into more drama in the middle of a pesterlog.
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>>81945740
Goddam it. Read what I write fully instead of focusing in a single thing. It's not about a single thing. It's not about the example of this battle I gave. It's about that whole fanfiction being a messed up story, with forced interactions, with OOC personalities and a bunch of headcannons jammed in by the whin of whatever authors made that up.

One thing is writer's freedom, another is purposefully changing whatever possible course things went. There is a high list of where that goes, but if I give all the examples, its clear people will focus in a single one AGAIN.

>>81945801
AND YOU, read what I posted before. I used the Collide example, but before I used the Game Over example. Whihc shows the Condesce is powerful enough to kill Aranea easily, whcih essentially means she could have killed Jane even easier. And Game Over was before DDotA, which is AFTER retcon.
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>>81945713
I've seen people say stuff along the lines of the villains being weak in Collide. Outside of Lord English who was by all accounts pitiful, lots of reasoning has been given for the other boss's performances and I've seen little addressal of this.
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>>81945427
>Akwete Purrmusk is canon
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>>81945842
It's a tough answer.
But you have my sympathies.
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>>81945842
>pretending to be the new guy
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>>81945913
>dave and jade yiffing is canon
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>>81945805
Carapacians breed in tanks, and are born a certain age and are functionally immortal outside of years without food or violence.

This undermines the breeding hips stance on sexy carapaces, but more than makes up for it in other dimensions.
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>>81945508
> Sburb Glitch FAQ
if you like the sburb glitch faq, might i recommend its unfinished, edgy offspring
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2065626/chapters/4490181
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>>81945844
I liked it more than canon because it wasn't afraid to get its hands dirty, if that makes sense. The canon discussion kept dodging the ugly stuff. In this version the part where Dave flinches at Dirk's fist bump felt so fucking great from a storytelling standpoint.

I think that this is going to make me feel stupid, but it felt like a real conversation, or as real as Homestuck gets.
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Guys stop biting the bait
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>>81945842
Oh my poor, sweet anon.
Stop pretending you're reading the comic for the first time and not fishing for replies, it's embarrassing.
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>>81945906
>It's about that whole fanfiction being a messed up story, with forced interactions and a bunch of headcannons by the whin of whatever authors made that up.

That's what fanfiction is. If fanfiction followed canon it wouldn't be fanfiction.

You're saying the writers aren't allowed to be retroactively right about future canon developments, and that's stupid. Also that they're not allowed to be creative and actively change stuff to make the story better.

Hussie was wrong about Homestuck, you have to admit it with Act 7 turning out as it was. Any change, even if it's non-canon, can have a positive effect.
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>>81945897
The authors of DDotA have addressed this on their tumblr. Because of their uni and job commitments they have accepted the chatlogs are going to be cramped and rushed. That's a level of honesty and decency beyond late-Act 6 Huss, but it doesn't mean the conversations aren't also samey for irrelevant reasons.
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>>81946021
that's a different anon though
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Has Hussie said anything anywhere yet besides his news post?

The radio silence feels particularly strange coming from him.
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why is jade dark-skinned is so much fanart?
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>>81946079
Well it used to be because islander girl
now it's because deviantart tier fangirls want to be diverse
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>>81946079
because she lives in the south pacific
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The same epilogue as every pretentious long franchise. The main character fucks the wrong girl. I have no ships so your guess is as good as mine,
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>>81946078
Even his Twitter's wiped. I think he's retreating in on himself until the game's released.
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>>81946058
I don't think they're samey content-wise, we've had all sorts of personality problems. But they ARE "two characters rant at each other about personal problems that they were until now too afraid to solve, then realize they have something in common and mention how fucked up both are, at the end they have a hopeful attitude towards the future and resolve to take a small step to fix them".

Though I just finished a Roxy/AR pesterlog where AR just ends exactly as fucked up as he was at the start, that was refreshing.
>>
HEY

HEY KAZRAD

DESPERATE HUNGRY FANBASE HERE

YOU CAN SWOOP IN AND STEAL ALL OUR AUTISM BUCKS

DO IT
DO IT DO IT DO IT
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>>81945906
You're the kind of guy that talks naively about power levels when discussing what will happen next in a shonen manga. I hate to point out you're being a stereotype, but this is literally entry-level mistakes.
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>>81946078
>The radio silence feels particularly strange coming from him.
This is a joke.

This has to be a joke.
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>>81945839
Exquisite.

Did they ever fight Lord English? Did Karkat ever actually do something useful? Just how bad does the rabbit hole get?
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>>81946079
She lived on an island all her life.
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>>81945996
There is a great feeling of reality throughout all of DDotA, but that moment to me felt really forced. Dave is not a coward. Reservations are one thing, but this is like doing what Hussie did to Karkat.
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>>81946078
Hussie has been almost silent for years now. I wouldn't be surprised if he went against his "news in a few month!" promise and faded into the shadows once and for all.
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>>81945996

There's bits of DDotA that I like but the anon criticizing it has great points too. I think Jane beating HIC was way too easy and copped out. It easily was worse than the Collide defeat, and the video for the dreambubbles had some pretty bad art in places.

I could complain about some of the art in this because it doesn't all look very great. It flips the spectrum of the canon end of Homestuck, having less visual impressive shit but more characterization and pesterlogs between characters we have not seen in canon.

As saccharine and overstuffed as it is, the fact they refer to Davepeta as when everything was terrible I agree wholesale. AltCalliope having a decidedly and completely passive existence that doesn't involve exploding everything into a black hole feels great too; that's something that really bothered me for Act 7.
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>>81946110
why would someone take this picture of themselves?
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>>81946021
I havent even hit act 3 jackass
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>>81946245
Why not? It's a nice picture
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>>81946110
>>81946118
>>81946182

but so did jake, and he was CAUCASIAN in trickster mode
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>>81946132
We were talking about the author's writing style and preferred nature of content, yes, not the specific thing being talked about. It's good that comics like this bother to address plot points that canon forgets.
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>>81946163
>Even the Huss is suffering because of this shitty comic
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>>81945976
Carapacians can breed though, the exiles in Roxy's colony without barcodes confirm it.
it's not as if BQ, who despises the creation of new life, is going to let anyone cum inside her though
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>>81946245
women are attention whorse
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>>81946203
>Dave is not a coward.
This is post-game-over Dave, anon. Yeah he's willing to die for his friends, but...

LOL NO TIME TRAVEL BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL BAD
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>>81946245
You could ask that about the thousands of other nudestuckers
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>>81946166
It ends abruptly a second before English is dealt with. Karkat beats up Clover and that's his big moment.
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>>81946278
no it's not, it's ugly. Almost as ugly like aradia.
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>>81946079
>>81946110
yee, this, but they obviously have never seen real Polynesians.
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>>81946245
Because she's cute and probably likes showing off her figure.
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>>81946049
>>81946141

Ok, I admit I expressed myself badly. I admit I have been a bit aggressive. I will try to be more calmer and more polite and I mean that in a way not to make me sound like a sarcastic jerkass, because that would mean I am a sarcastic jerkass and I have been too much of a jerkass already.

What I mean is: it's okay to let the imagination flow a bit. It's okay to force a little. It's okay to put one or few headcannons and to write your own path ina fanfiction.

The problem is when this goes overboard. When it exceeds a point in which it should be made. DDoAt did that.

It isnt a few situations that follow like that, it's tha majority of the comic, even while considering the time in which it was written. A fanfiction writer should take caution while doing that, he should analyze what was at hand before writing such situations, the more it diverges and the more this repeats itself, then the more forced tha fanfiction will be.

Jane defeating the Condesce is one example of that going overboard, in Game Over alone we saw her power, one that can't be beaten even while throwing a planet at her. This was written before Collide, but after Game Over, so it should have taken her at consideration. If the Condesce can kill Aranea, then why would Jane stand a chance against her alone?

Likewise, was there a need for Dirk to rip out the Equius part of the sprite?

Karkat's whole speech against the Condesce was great, I give you that, but not for the situation, not without buildup. Going out of nowhere and doing that, doesnt that make the speech lose its beauty?

DDoAt has a lot of those situations in a circle of repetition, thats what I have against it. Sorry for the unecessary confusion I caused so far. I hope I explained myself well this time
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>>81946355
she's not cute tho, she's below average
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>>81946110
>now it's because deviantart tier fangirls want to be diverse

Indeed.
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>>81946347
Polynesian hula girl Jade where
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>>81946316
I don't think the B2 exiles lacking barcodes was at all intentional. It's convenient that large amounts of carapacians should seem to generate in yet another sprawling lab complex.

In any case, they can obviously have sex, and that's what matters.
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>>81946347
wasn't her dad some kind of british?
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>>81946317
I'd take a nude picture outdoors with the right lighting and accessories, and I have a benis.
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>>81946400
Then she did it for the people who don't think she's below average, or for herself
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>>81946406
Is that a beard on Jade?
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>>81946406
why do people draw characters ugly but think they're beautiful?

>inb4 beauty is in the eye of the beholder

that's just an excuse for people with bad taste.
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>>81946435
Going by impact, they are all Americans.
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>>81946435
He was a Great White Hunter spoof.
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>>81946485
yeah, because she's Dave's beard.
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>>81946140
Kazerad is a fucking idiot who thinks it's more important to deliver his shitty kickstarter merch to a thousand autists than to update the comic literally all the other fans are still reading.
He deserves to be forgotten for not learning from Hussie's mistakes. They aren't so different after all.
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>>81946366
> If the Condesce can kill Aranea, then why would Jane stand a chance against her alone?

Why did CD defeat Jade? You'll find in the answer to that question that you're an idiot.

>Likewise, was there a need for Dirk to rip out the Equius part of the sprite?
I assume getting an actual good character instead of a meme. And it used established Prince of Heart powers, I liked that.

>not for the situation, not without buildup.
This is right after Game Over, not right after Act 7. Put your mindset in the right place.
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>>81946488
it's the last 40 years old Mr. Rogers type ideologies backfiring
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>>81946470
she and anyone who thinks that needs a reality check desu
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>>81946318
Well, I dislike the forced mopeyness as much as anyone. But canon made him believably nervous about meeting Dirk, but not a wreck. Almost everyone is too emotionally muddled in DDotA.
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>>81946110
>>81946406
Deviantart and Tumblr dislikes Armenians, Georgians and basically everyone from that region.
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>>81946288
Everyone was PEACHY when they were hit by Trickster mode. The first Trickster mode was paper-white John turning pink, and Caliborn's zillytop helmet was also pink. it's a trickster thing.

I wonder if Caliborn fucking with the story is why the circus zilly shit was the best-in-slot weapons.
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>>81946544
i never watched mr. rogers, but i did watch that show with the woman and the couch
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>>81946555
I think canon was wrong then, because anyone would be a wreck after meeting his childhood abuser again.
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>>81946166
People might say they fought him, but they didn't even come close to anything like what you might imagine that might mean. All of the villains became cardboard cutouts killed by Roxy and Dave. Karkat and Dave got gay but Karkat got cucked by Jade, otherwise he did literally nothing but flirt with Meenah. Really bad, nearly everything (possibly everything) since a point called "the masterpiece" was not even touched by Hussie, as it's all import art, no dialogue, and the import artists even decided what characters would interact and what they'd be doing on the pages they drew.
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>>81946328
What, like a cliffhanger ending?

>Karkat beats up Clover and that's his big moment.
FUCK
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>>81946575
>all white kids

let the dream come back to life
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>>81946418
One thing's for certain: when she's with a male, a lot of little white tadpoles are going to die.
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>>81946488
Because they look like that or have friends or followers who look like that and want to assure them that they're either beautiful or, in spite of a lack of beauty, capable of going on fun adventures and making friends like the kids do.
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>>81946366
Nobody really cared about your tone. Spinning 180' from obnoxious to forced politeness and word-wall without addressing the salient points brought up against it already doesn't accomplish anything.
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>>81946485
I hope you're not implying that women can't have beards, shitlord.

Personally I like the fact that Rose is apparently from Moon Over June.
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>>81945243
Probably both
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>>81945064
Does Double Death of the Author let the B2 Midnight Crew do important things?
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>>81946541
I'm 90% sure what you just said was a bait. I will ignore the two first points because it seems you ignored my whole explanation, now for the third point:

Where is the build up? Where did that whole speech come from? It was out of nowhere, uneeded in the whole situation. Read, re-read it and read it again, that speech is the type of thing of cheesy fanfics that don't know where to place or balance things.

I already said: those were just examples while DDoAt is full of situations like that, forced without explanation or need.

>>81946641
No, I'm not changing it because of how you people care. I'm changing because of how I care. If this is supposed to be a discussion and I would rather people discussing instead of insulting each other or being aggressive, then the least I can do is stop myself being aggressive before someone does that to me as well.
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>>81946629
then they gotta understand they ugly af and accept that. Don't make characters ugly just because you and your friends are
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>>81946366

Those are concise and agreeable criticisms. They're too gung ho about satisfying what they want without considering much of the canon, or being flexible enough with the narratives they established for themselves before Act 7 came out.

There's other shit that is self-fulfillment that I can't let go and for its faults there are bits I still appreciate with it. With the superior bullshit that Spades Slick was given in Collide, his entrance and section of introduction with DDotA was wonderful and everything I was hoping for.

It's "Wish-Fulfillment: the Homestuck" but shit I'm curious to see how it wraps up with what they tied together so far. Shows how desperate I am for closure Hussie the Hack didn't give.
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>>81946576
I love this minecraft mod
shame it's still really early in progress
and it was on MSPAF which is now dead
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>>81946575
is that why they hate Jade
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_eternity_sign
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>>81946488
Real life people are ugly, so that makes the characters look more realistic and relatable.
You know, sort of how characters in Homestuck all have completely retarded interests like Nic Cage movies, furry shit, wizard slash and whatnot.
Don't you deny it, anon. You may not think you're ugly but you've got some shitty guilty pleasures that you keep secret like pretty much everyone.
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>>81946700
B2 Midnight Crew? Union Jack got a fight scene, B2!DD showed up briefly and had some interaction with Bec Noir, but besides that no

>>81946715
>I will ignore the two first points
well then I'll ignore your entire post because you're a baby
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>>81946575
Basically if you are from her, you are literally evil.
It doesn't help that a huge part of the Caucasus, is part or used to be part of the CIS.
CIS is short for Commonwealth of Independent States and consists of former Soviet states.
Tumblr hates them for some reason. "Die CIS scum" is a popular battle cry.
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Does anybody happen to save those word clouds for Cascade, Collide, and ACT 7? I can't find them anywhere.
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>>81946591
Oh damn, not this conversation again. Dirk was a rough and aggressive parent, but equating that with capital-A Abuse was definitely an error in canon. Someone who thrashes his children with a belt, or does rapey things, or acts purely to hurt his kids, is not comparable to someone who clearly loves his son and is (wisely and effectively) training him for challenges he will definitely face, even if he goes too far at times and leaves weird softcore porn on display.
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>>81946784
It was an error in canon because it wasn't used effectively like it was in DDotA, that was what I meant.
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>>81946110
>hairy arms

disgusting
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>>81946611
>What, like a cliffhanger ending?
Very much so, imagine the vaguest handwavy cliffhanger ending you can and you probably wouldn't be able to match it.
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I wonder what Dave would have been like as a Seer
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>>81946400
You are objectively incorrect
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>>81946763
no everyone in real life is ugly tho, just because some characters are beautiful it doesn't make them unrealistic
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>>81946802
Dunno, she's pretty cute otherwise
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god damn it, I'm a dumbass, it took me this entire sequence to realize Rose was underwater
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>>81946715
Because of "how you people care"?
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>>81946832
It's so cute
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So, if the alpha kids had to use John's powers to zap out of their new universe, what happened after they beat Caliborn? Did they just walk right back through the door again?
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>>81946154
Meanwhile:
>GCATavrowho?
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>>81946766
You ignored half of my explanation first, so I dont care if you ignore anything else. Like what you want for whatever reason you like, we all have free will, if you are so biased do defend your opinion without good arguments, then live on with it

>>81946732
Thanks for replying, sorry for how I acted previously. As much as I criticized DDoAt, I will still admit it's one of the better adventures we have on Homestuck fandom and it could have been far far worse. The main problems with it is balance and this type of wish-fulfillment it has, which isn't exclusive of it

>>81946875
Look, english isnt my first language, so probably many things I will wirte will sound ambiguous, and so will responses and I wont undertand well what you said while I may misinterpret myself. What I meant is: we are doing a discussion, I wasnt discussing but bashing, I felt I was wrong, so I decided to actually build my arguments first.
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>>81946844
no im not, the person in that picture is below average
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>>81946763
Voluminous studies on babies pretty much disproves the hypothesis that ugly makes characters more relatable. At best it makes them more pitiable, like the runt of the litter with his teeth sticking out at odd angles.
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name a worse-written character than Act 6 Vriska

you can't
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>>81946953
I'm not ignoring your explanation. You're saying "hey there's this huge problem so it doesn't matter if you shoot down three of my examples, I'm just right". And you're wrong about that.

You can't say a rule exists if I can find three exceptions off the bat.
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>>81946873
show me the face and we'll see if she is or not
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>>81946832
Oh hey, I was goning to ask if I was close on that
>>81946883
I assume not then?
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>>81946829
>>81946602
>Kitcar doesn't even end up with the blind one

Fuck it.
Thanks niggas, you've saved me a lot of time I would otherwise have wasted on rereading this hunk of junk.
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>>81946832
That's better reasoning for Dave being the Seer than some others' speculation back in the day

I remember this guy insisting Dave was the Seer of Light because he literally looked up at the sun a lot
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>>81946988
One out of four.
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>>81941299
Call it shit taste anons, but I loved the sense of seeing the trolls various stages of adult life. The Beforus, and Ancestors were a neat concept when you consider that the remaining trolls (Karcuck, Kanaya, and Terezi) could grow up to be even more badass just like them.

But then Hussie drooped the BALL and we got perpetual 13 year olds. Fuuuuck.
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>>81946798
No, it was an error in canon because it was contrived and made no sense when every other parent in the comic was comparable, and sometimes actually abusive (Mom being totally sozzle constantly around Rose, Grandpa's decision to move at a very old age to a remote island where a very powerful wild animal lived with his tiny granddaughter and no emergency systems)
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>>81947016
>>81946994
Damn
Rose is the Witch Right?
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>>81946984
You can see her face in both those pics you dumbass
How are you able to notice her arm hair but not the face
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>>81947046
The problem is that by the time DDotA happens it's already canon. And this isn't an AU, they can't just erase that shit. They just made use of it.

I know Dirk being a real abuser in any timeline is really dumb, but that doesn't mean it's not canon, as much as I wish it wasn't.
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>>81947073
_No
But maybe you should just wait and see
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>>81947073
We'll see.
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>>81947073
Why do you want spoilers

I'll just give you this one clue, sburb titles are meant to be challenges, not descriptions
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>>81946953
Okay, I'll give you a pass since you're an ESOL. Generally be more careful about these sorts of linguistic-y discussions in the future. Apologising like you did early was actually a good manouvre, now that I know you're not a native.
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>>81946336
>Almost as ugly like aradia.
Motherfucker I will fight you.
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>>81947107
im asking for her full face facing the camera you fucking idiot, the fuck am i going to be able to tell from half of her face at an angle?
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>>81946874
oh that's cool, who's the artist?
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>>81947170
aradia is ugly, fat and useless she deserves her fate as a nothing character
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>>81947113
Dave's serious Dirk reservations were only developed post-retcon. That's exactly the kind of thing this au is designed to dodge.
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>>81947107
>>81946873
>tfw you'll never know what this feels like
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>>81947210
one of the two creators of Double Death of the Author
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If you want diversity and not make all of them sound like Uncle Toms, you should copypaste the site with their dialogues through gizoogle

http://www.gizoogle.net/index.php?search=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mspaintadventures.com%2F%3Fs%3D6%26p%3D001926&se=Gizoogle+Dis+Shiznit
http://www.gizoogle.net/index.php?search=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mspaintadventures.com%2F%3Fs%3D6%26p%3D001935&se=Gizoogle+Dis+Shiznit
http://www.gizoogle.net/index.php?search=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mspaintadventures.com%2F%3Fs%3D6%26p%3D001939&se=Gizoogle+Dis+Shiznit
http://www.gizoogle.net/index.php?search=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mspaintadventures.com%2F%3Fs%3D6%26p%3D001963&se=Gizoogle+Dis+Shiznit
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>>81938311
To be fair, this was intentionally subverted and made his death sadder. Of course, then we got ARquius.
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>>81947238
Get a load of this horse's ass.
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>>81947249
I must be misremembering, I could swear it was canon before the retcon.

In any case I think they're only dodging lack of development and plot developments, not inherent future character traits.
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>>81946591
But he didn't. Dirk isn't bro, theyre similar but not the same dude
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>>81947170
not only she a mad cunt she ugly AND boring
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>>81947261
>tfw I do
Get fucked Nerd
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>>81947276
no wonder she wears such loose clothing, she of course has to hide her fat roles. Just like ham-planets wearing hoodies.
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>>81947238
YOU SON OF A BITCH
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>>81947325
How the fuck is Dave supposed to know that?
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>>81946983
your justifications for the first was aquestion about Condesce efeating Jade out of nowhere that made no sense, in the second was you considering Arquius a meme, and while his character is random, ripping out one part of the soul was very forced and uneeded aside from the will of the author. I mean, where did that even come from? Maybe some osrt of reason would be welcome? Like the muscle part making him get out of his mind or something? But we didnt get that, even if you say you have, it has been in no way more the rest of the actual comic was.

Only your third example you actually gave me an argument, but even at that the whole speech was out of nowhere. Sure, lets meet the Condesce for this specific mission. Out of nowhere he says that whole thing? Even with her getting to his nerves, that was out of character. A lot.

>>81947167
Thank you and sorry for whatever misunderstandings and needless anger I may have caused
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So why can't I buy a tangle buddy set?
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>>81947336
I wish I could
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>>81947340
sick fires
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>>81947357
accept the truth anon
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>>81946728
No one has to bend to your aesthetic whims if you're not commissioning them and traditional beauty can be artistically limiting.

I mean, I end up getting annoyed because characters are taken leagues away from their canon detailed depictions and I end up wondering what version of Homestuck this person read, but with the general fandom climate as it is, this kind of fanart would have prospered with or without Hussie's official "aracial" approval.

>>81947393
You're telling me! They need to be made out of that shitty kind of soft silicony rubber. You know they'd smell that sickly chemical sort of sweet.
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>>81947374
You're using forced like a buzzword. Stop it.

Your birth was forced.


>I mean, where did that even come from? Maybe some osrt of reason would be welcome? Like the muscle part making him get out of his mind or something?

THAT'S DIRK'S POWER. HE ALREADY USED IT TO RIP CALIBORN'S SOUL OUT OF HIS BODY, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

You seriously have to be a troll.

>Out of nowhere he says that whole thing?

"Out of nowhere he says that whole thing" is a nice title for Karkat's entire fucking life
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>>81947374
Holy fucking shit, spell check your paragraph you fucking caveman
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I wonder what Gamzee must've thought when Caliborn went through his weeb phase
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>>81947431
it's most like those people have no taste, i just wish i didn't have to see the failed abortions that slithered out of the bucket and onto my screen, such disgusting creations of a fandom's delusion.
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God, does anyone have that pic zwid posted of his basement? I wanted to save it, but forgot to, and now I can't find it.
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>>81946956
Keep telling yourself that anon. One day you may develop taste
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>>81947329
>>81947406
Fuck both of you.
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would homestuck have benefited from implied rape or not?
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>HSG now considers crappy fanventures to be better than the comic
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>>81947614
Mindfangs stories.

But otherwise, depends on who.
Implied rape of rose would have improved the comic, I know that much.
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>>81947323
It's a shame really. Still an impressive fic.
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>>81947572
Okay, go and make or commission your own fanart exclusively and stay away from the fandom. This is much easier than you're making it out to be. I mean, you could continue whining, but that's much less effective.

>>81947614
It had it in Mindfang's journal. It was precisely neutral.
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>>81947363
Because one is a fully grown adult and the other is a teen in pantallons
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>>81947625
It's more like
>the comic turned so shitty that crappy fanadventures became better
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>>81947593
im rubber you're glue what you say bounces off me and stick on to you. plebeian pls
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>>81947614
Anon.
There's already implied rape in Homestuck.
Sorry.
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>>81947614
Only if it happened to Vriska.
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>>81947374
People who get angry will always get angry, nothing you can do about it nor is there anything you should. No problem in any case.
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>>81947491
its about being Dirk's power. We already know he can do this typeof stuff. Its about his motivation, What did Arquius do, in that small space of time, to mkae Dirk rip out the Equius part of his soul at that point? Arquius did many things which would drive Dirk mad, yes, but that situation was no different. It's not about him having the power to do so. It's about the motivation. Before all else, Dirk's problems are with the Hal part of Arquius, even if he was ripping out Equius to do Equius a favor, that was without a clear reason.

For the second point, look, characters have a way they act according to the situation. Karkat giving a speech about Alternia, blood and this stuff for the Condesce was not something for that situation in particular. There wasn't a sequaence of events that would bring him to do that, and Karkat has been through way worse in the comic. For that point in itself? No, it didnt make sense

>>81947564
English isnt my first language

>>81947724
Understood
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>>81947491
He can kill people by destroying their souls. He can't do fucking soul surgery and pick out specific bits
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>>81947655
>the victim is implied to have been the Dolorosa
>most ancestor murders are the opposite of canon murders
I WANT KANAYA TO RAPE VRISKA!
I LOVE VRISKA!
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>>81947595
ACCEPT THE TRUTH ANON, ARADIA IS HOT GARBAGE
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>>81947666
The only thing he was told was that he was a younger version of his guardian

it's like meeting kid hitler

>>81947740
> Its about his motivation, What did Arquius do, in that small space of time, to mkae Dirk rip out the Equius part of his soul at that point?

Honestly it's more out of character for them to not get every random troll out of the kernelsprite the moment they get the chance. It's just logical. Gamzee fucked things up, so you gotta unfuck them.
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>>81947747
he created lord english, he damn well can do whatever the fuck he wants with souls
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>>81947357
that's the image I use in my "anti-carpal-tunnel" software. I can set custom gifs:
- stop working: Karkat freaking
- resting: Karkat frowning
- rest over: Nep and Equius hugging
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>>81947665
If i wasn't trash at drawing these doodles, i would hell i'd even draw a skinny rose.
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>>81947764
No, fuck you. Aradia is best girl and your opinion is SHIT.
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>>81947393
Why does everyone keep telling me not to skip the story? I clearly enjoy it and if its in the story its gotta be related to the overall plot?
Do people actually skip parts of the story?

>>81947431
>You know they'd smell that sickly chemical sort of sweet.
I hate I know exactly what you're describing
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>>81947794
Yes, it is fucked up and probably would be better to separate them. But they never did so before. If he would start separating anysprite, he would need a clear reason. Thats the problem. Whatever motivated Dirk there doesnt compare to previous situations that woul have made him do so
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im sorry i should have specified, i meant implied rape of one of the main characters like jane raping dirk or dave raping rose
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>>81947879
That's because in this version of events the character act more realistically. It's kind of the problem the story is trying to fix.

Surely you understand that, right? This isn't an alternate path as Hussie would write it.
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>>81947857
> two fingers
that's nice, but I think she'd want something STRONGer
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>>81947857
if my opinion is anything but fact, then why is she such a nothing character? why does she wear loose clothing? because she's fat and ugly and a useless nothing character, truly a pathetic creature
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>>81947871
>>>81947393
Uh, did you mean to reply to another post?

The reason that people always tell newbies not to skip a part of the story known as the Intermission is because at first glance, it appears to have absolutely nothing to do with the main story. The name "Intermission", along with the seeming irrelevance of the section, makes people want to skip it to "get to the good part".
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>>81947595
>>81947857

lel nigga don't need to fool yourself anymore. just accept the facts.
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>>81947857
Best troll girl maybe
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>>81947897
Jane should have raped Jake like she said she would.
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>>81947939
>You put my sunblock on.
And that's how Aradia broke her spine.
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>>81947939
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Anyone who thinks there's a better girl than Roxy is WRONG.
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>>81947979
it has to be the gay man
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>implying Roxy isnt best girl
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>>81947840
. . . is this a commercial product you developed yourself? Or something you knocked together to help your own hand troubles?
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What about titles for Team Sleuth and co?

PS is some sort of Blood player for sure. A diplomatic class that is most likely passive.

PI is a Mind player. Potentially a Seer.

AD is a Heart player, I'm thinking Knight. A real brawler.

MK should probably be a Lord.
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>>81948025
mary sue
she didn't have bladekind
dirty cheater
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>>81948025
howd did they even beat her
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Best girl: Roxy

Best troll girl: Terezi

Best boy: John

Best troll boy: Karkat
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>>81948025
>>81948032
Good taste today.
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>>81948025
She's got competition
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>>81948055
don't dirty the masterpiece with classpects
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>>81948025
Condy had smoother thighs
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Roxy's fluffy, white-blonde, swirly pubes
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>>81948092
I want Roxy to beat the shit out of me
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>>81947953
>why is she such a nothing character
Hussie's a hack
>why does she wear loose clothing
Because it's comfy and easy to wear?
>she's fat and ugly and a useless nothing character, truly a pathetic creature
Fuck you, I bet your waifu is fucking Vriska.
>>81947966
They aren't facts, they're opinions. And they're shitty opinions at that.
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All humans are best, provided they don't get involved with the trolls.
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>>81948120
The only way to tell which one of them has smoother thighs is to rub your cheek against both of their bare thighs slowly and studiously.
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is there any way to find out your aspect/role, i need to know so i can self-insert harder and do things in my mind with the the story
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>>81948135
>roxy will never shave her pubes into a landing strip for you
>roxy will never get you liquored up with the intent to fuck
>You will never impregnate roxy and make her your wife
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>>81947922
Yes, I know. I understand this type of stuff and I wouldnt complain if they separated Equius from Hal. My problem is that there is a sequence of events. If someone does something, then there is a reason for that. Emotions, desires, goals, this type of thing. An authotr can't just do a situtation of a character doing somehing important without a reason for that.

DDoAt has this problem. It diverged, which is something no one forbids it to do, but for the path to diverge and for character to act, they will need reasons for that sans if they are just having fun or goofing around.

We have them executing plans in DDoAt, but most of the times, their actions come around without a clear or a good reason for that. This something that is okay one or two times, but the whole comic is like that, without them following some sort of natural logic behind their actions.

Many points in it, they do that. That's the problem.
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>>81948055
MK would be Lord of Space because of the black hole stuff.
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>>81948174
When I judge an artist, I look at two things: their hands, and their guns.

This artist fails both spot checks.
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>>81948032
That's what we're implying
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>>81948120
Condy had smother thighs
Imagine how many prospective heiresses she finished off between them over her millenia long reign
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>>81948202
There was no reason for Dirk to NOT do it in canon.

There was a reason in this story. It was the logical thing to do. It was a flaw of canon, not a flaw of this story that the events happened differently.
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>>81948217
I was thinking Void for the same reason but I think Act 7 regrettably clenches it. Space it is.

It's amusing to imagine him on frog breeding duty.
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>>81948040
I'm a linux nerd, so it's a free thing that I can config juuust right

/usr/bin/xwrits typetime=30 breaktime=2 maxhands=5 +mouse +noiconify \
rest-picture=$HOME/homestuck/Trolls/KarkatQuest/KarkatMSPFA-09.gif \
ready-picture=$HOME/homestuck/Trolls/KarkatQuest/KarkatMSPFA-52.gif \
warning-picture=$HOME/homestuck/Trolls/KarkatQuest/KarkatMSPFA-02.gif
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>>81948169
such denial, just accept she's garbage

yes vriska has been my fav from the begining :^) i got upset at that dyke bullshit tho but was happy when she got cut out and true vriska came back
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>>81948055
I think they're canonically prospitians. Doesn't Meenah's walk-around include her finding a Problem Sleuth action figure or something in a chest, with a caption about him and his friends being famous agents of the White royalty?
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>>81948055
Problem Sleuth: Rogue of Blood

Pickle Inspector: Page of Space

Ace Dick: Knight of Heart

Hysterical Dame: Sylph of Blood

Nervous Broad: Maid of Space

Mobster Kingpin: Thief of Mind

Weasel Warrior: Prince of Blood

Elf Mage: Mage of Life

Hog Cleric: Heir of Doom

Clown Bard: Bard of Time
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>>81948250
>MK in the Land of Clowns and Frogs
This planet would be Hussie's masturbatory fantasy.
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>>81948288
i deep part of me wished this ship would come to life, and i don't even like it that much
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>>81948055
PI is probably hope, since his broken as fuck imagination stat lets him poof things into existence if he believes hard enough..
He's also a scrawny pushover who eventually ascends to godhood, might be a Page.

>>81948185
Find some interpretation of aspects you like and stick with it.
Then do lots and lots of introspection.

>>81948276
>Vriskafag happy about his waifu ruining the comic
I don't even like Aradia but I think I might start aradiaposting out of pure spite.
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>>81948169
How can they be opinions when it's literally in the comic you read you little dummy? She's literally half of the mary sue/gary stu semi-main character cesspool.
>>
I'm really enjoying watching that anon liveblog their way through HS. It's nice to vicariously relive your first readthrough.
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>>81948294
That's just a fun what-if. I think the same description says they aren't really the "real" PS crew we know.

>>81948299
I like the way you think.
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>>81948337
>He's also a scrawny pushover who eventually ascends to godhood, might be a Page.
Didn't PI ascend relatively early in the story? That sounds more like something an Heir would do. GPI wasn't that useful since he mostly did one thing.
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so happy these two made it

best couple
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>>81948347
>>81948169
also I don't have a waifu
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>>81948337
Hope works really well for him, you're right.
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so I've been working on a primer-style fanventure wherin a time player's insecurities of his other selves' motives doom his timeline, and he ends up in a spiral of non linear deceit. it will work in causality (except when it doesn't)

It's going to be confusing as hell, but ultimately fit together to the minute. I'd post a screeny of the timeline window, but that would spoil the whole thing before I even have any art pumped out. interested in reading?
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>>81948337
the real hero vriska saved the day desu
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>>81948243
Dude, its not a matter of what the audience wants or agrees is for the best, but more of a character in question to judge the need. If Dirk never bothered to rip Equius out of Arquius before, why bother at that point?

Im all okay with him doing that, but not without some sort of reason. I mean, was it too much to ask for Dirk getting fed up with the Equius part that was addicted to horses and his own muscles? He got fed up wth Hal instead, which is fine, he was angry at his splinter. But then why rip out Equius there?

He could have said ''I tire of this!'' or ''I can deal with you anymore, not with you like that!''. Instead, he ripped out Equius stating it was better for him like that. Saying he was sorry for the troll.

He was enraged at Cal, man. He had all the situation to act based on emotion and it was fine to do so, but that behavior was unnatural and so was his action
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>>81948388
you will never see them kiss
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>>81948218
It's just a little doodle anon.
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>>81948425
>If Dirk never bothered to rip Equius out of Arquius before, why bother at that point?

Read the Dirk pesterlogs, holy shit, he talked about AR several times and how he was unhappy with his situation
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>>81948459
>you will never see any actual significant canon couple kiss
>except rosemary, which amounted to nothing good
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>>81948459
Epilogues are made for kissing.
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>>81948472
all cartoon characters are just doodles anon
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>>81948413
I'm a sucker for time-travel stories, especially ones with stable loops.
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>>81948482
i never saw the point of gays in the comic desu
>>81948507
do you trust the hack?
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>>81948459
they had cuter moments than the couple that did

im content
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>>81948544
just let the dream come to life hussie, pls
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>>81948413
>Primer

You're a fucking madman, but yes.
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>>81948413
>sburb time shit

YES
YES
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>>81938466

>it's pretty obvious that he didn't want to explicit what happened.

WHICH IS EXACTLY THE FUCKING PROBLEM

BEATING LORD ENGLISH IS THE MONEY SHOT OF THE WHOLE GOD DAMNED COMIC AND HE JUST DECIDES TO SKIP IT? WHY!?
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>>81948413
sure
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>>81948653
his girlfriend probably told him that it'd be more artistic that way
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>>81947491
Sprites dont have souls
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>>81948653
because actually letting you see the villain die wouldn't subvert any expectations :^)
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>>81948480
Again, the rage was diercted at the Hal part of him, not the Equius part. He ripped Equius then said:

DIRK: I have no idea who that guy even was, but he deserved way better than having his corpse shoved in a kernelsprite with YOU.


Ripping out to do a soul a favor? Kinda strange.
Ripping out because he couldnt deal with the Equius side? The problem is he was angry at Hal.
Ripping out because he couldnt deal with Hal any longer like that? Fine by me, makes sense, but he didn't state so. He continued to argue with Hal in anger and he didnt justify his action at that time.

He just said ''thats it'' ripped equius, said what i pasted above and continued to argue with Hal ad if nothing happened. Was it too much to ask for something more? It was a situation that had the perfect build up, but wasnt carried on like that. Something very important, made as if it didnt matter and ignored by the two characters present as if nothing happened
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>>81948694
Funny headcanon you got there

explain how the ashes brought nanna back
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Hussie seriously dropped the ball with the retcon shit
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>>81948710
He wanted to be face to face with the real hal

you really miss all kinds of social subtext, not everything has to be spelled out

DIRK: I'm really angry so I'm going to remove the troll that shouldn't be part of this conversation before I rage at you, grrr
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>>81948482
>except rosemary, which amounted to nothing good
How the hell did that ship get off the hook so many times, which ultimately resulted in both Rose and Kanaya losing virtually any character they had?
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>>81945909
I'd like to know:
Why Bec Noir didn't use the red miles, and why all of a sudden he's not as angry as PM, which single-handedly allows her to win.
Why HIC suddenly can't use any of her powers very well and she loses to a bunch of regular God-tier humans. I mean, I'm not saying she should've won, but having her get stabbed in the back without anyone taking any serious injuries is stupid.
>Build up how important it is that Jane doesn't get hurt in battle
>Jane gets hurt in battle
>immediately healed
Why were the other two Jacks incapable of doing any harm to anyone?

It's cheap to just make it so that none of the villains are able to hurt anyone just to get the fights over with as soon as possible.
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>>81948767
Cuckdrew Husscuck wouldn't want to offend the furry gorilla lesbons
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>>81948739
im suprised john never tried to cop a feel when he was retconning
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>>81948717
Sprites are game constructs that do bullshit to imitate the properties of anything that gets put in them.
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>>81948767
because it's cute :^)
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>>81948653
Supposedly English was originally supposed to be killed at the end of Intermission.
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why couldn't John just have retconned Vriska out of the comic?
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>>81948828
I mean that's one of the twists of my fanadventure but I doubt it's how it works in canon, SBURB is like some actual vital part of the universe itself
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>>81948834
no it's not
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>>81948823
I'm surprised he didn't accidentally cop a feel when he first stuck his hand in the house juju.
Like he sticks his arm in there and all of a sudden he's grabbing his 10 year old self's junk in the shower. This creates an alternate universe where John is mentally traumatized by the act of having his balls fondled by a disembodied ghost arm and ends up becoming a gay prostitute.
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>>81948755
It didnt need to spelled out, I'm talking about the situation. but if you want to argument like that, then take this counter-argument in a manner similar to the one you wrote me while spelling out the situation

''Hey Hal, I cant fucking believe you just let all that stuff happen just like that. Lemme just rip your troll part here. Done. Now, HAL WHAT THE FUCK!''

Hmm, okay then
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>>81948806
Red miles are good for destroying big things not on single targets. The alpha kids were able to survive for quite some time away from the miles
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>>81948860
why couldn't John and Terezi prevent murderstuck and instead saved the troll who deserved being taken out of the picture the most?
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>>81948958
Fair point, I guess. It still feels forced that Jade decided to make them stop fighting all of a sudden, and all of a sudden PM is capable of ignoring Bec's urges while Bec Noir didn't.
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>>81946406

Do they... Do they put a beard on Jade since she's part dog?

Ugh, they had to be brutally realistic about it? Seriously?
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>>81948962
Because she's Andrew Hussie's waifu and the other trolls who died are not
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>>81948834
dave and jade are cute
Rosemary isn't anything
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>>81948962
Fucking hell! If they're was going to be ONE recon of a major event, why not this?

OR OTHER MEGA SHIT LIKE BEC NOIR, AND THE RINGS.

HUSSIE YOU HACK!
>>
>>81948817
>>81948834
The rest of the beta kids had some resolution, even Jade, but Rose only gets a shrug for not doing her planet quest and the "we don't have arcs" line? Not to mention how Kanaya's depicted as a perfect babbu when she has her own set of problems that are practically never been confronted on. And this is what the fandom thinks is a perfect, healthy ship?

The more I think about this the more it kinda pisses me off.
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>>81948962
or if we're going for the minimum amount of change, why not just have john go back to before game over and teleport aranea into the hyperbolic retcon chamber?
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>>81948932
was hoping it would be one of the chicks then when they get to the point where he says he did all the time shit she goes"!" and chastises him for it in cute tsundere way, because that how i roll
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>>81948767
>How the hell did that ship get off the hook so many times

dykes
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>>81948653
Not only did he skipped his demise, he also skipped his creation. He is just there.

As far as bosses go, Bec Noir was much scarier than LE ever hoped to be.
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>>81949082
>falling in love with your creation
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>>81949237
Yeah I was thinking of making a joke about shitty harem anime but accidental gay molestation is funnier.
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>>81949233
Going down that route he didn't really have to do anything beyond securing the Life Ring, which was the very first thing he did.
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>>81949270

We did get to see his creation. In puppet form

Oh, you thought that was a joke, a way to foreshadow something we'd eventually get to see with actual art? Nope. Hussie just decided to spend hours making shitty puppet shows instead of just drawing the events because ???
>>
>>81945996
It'd make way more sense to Dave to reflexively flashstep
>>
>>81948739
He dropped the ball with the 3 year time skip.
The pacing before was great then he pulled the emergency break for no reason.
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>>81948242
>those hip windows
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>>81949270
>>81949356

Although I actually disagree with you about one thing. LE hatching from scratch and later, his entrance into sburb/paradox space were both perfectly handled, really drove home the completely different scale of events. Too bad he had to throw that all away
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>>81949191
look on the bright side, anon.
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>>81948938
that's literally how it happened except with the out of character dirk yelling
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>>81949380
>The timeskip will be fine, we'll get to see what's going on in those three years
>then we literally don't
>and then it becomes irrelevant because Hussie just has plot points he had 4 years ago
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>>81949314
im not fond of gays
>>
I don't understand how Caliborn went from drawing perfect angle pictures to anime pieces actually why did he have a fascination for this anyway.
>>
>>81949328
oh yeah that's right
god the retcon was such a mess, instead of just fixing everything or doing the bare minimum for the sake of being responsible, it's this ridiculous middle ground that makes no sense
>>
>>81949356
Because it was something fucking new for once and fit the character and narrative perfectly.

Goddamn, stop bitching and go watch Star Wars or some shit.
>>
>>81949411
That actually hurts me
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>>81949445
bullshit
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>>81949460
manga book and one-upping his sister's art
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>>81949396
gaze upon their glory
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>>81949411
>holding hands with kanaya bit not rose

kek
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>>81949460
He found a How To Draw Manga book
And he took it to heart as the best way to draw.
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>>81949460
because 4chan can draw better then tumblr
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>>81948823
What if his hand ended up in non-canon stories too? Maybe the same story more than once?
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>>81949411
>abortion
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>>81949494
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>>81949477
why don't you believe that?
>>
>>81949356
So basically the kids get tired of soccer in their new paradise and John remembers, there is that green kid with red pyjamas and green bowtie and suspenders and he remembers how easy it was to beat him up and they decide to pay him a visit?
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>>81949411
this is perfectly in character

fucking rose
>>
>>81949411
how long until the kid goes to live with Grandma Roxy
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>>81949569
>静かに
>私の体内に
Was this cropped from something with Damara?
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>>81949554
that's hot and i likes it, but i was thinking of him feeling around and doing it on accident when he couldnt see

[spoier]spoil the uncropped i wanna see pls[/spoiler]
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>>81949411
Fuck you
fuck you
fuck You
and I am glad whatever timeline that story came from is dead and in a forgotten grave
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>>81949653
hahaha implying this doesn't actually work with Act 7, with kanaya having given up the matriorb
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>>81949554
>that fucking picture

HOMESTUCK
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>>81949638
You mean Karkat. Karkat is the designated sitter
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i wanna see a bunch of daves or a bunch or daves gangbang jade or rose

or jane or roxy but not as much
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>>81949411
Is this from the epilogue?
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>>81949638
Hopefully not long.
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>>81949693
hot aint it?
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>>81949712
>Dave and Aradia using their time abilities to have a massive orgy with different versions of their selves throughout the timeline
I can even see a few dead Daves making an appearance since Aradia would probably get off on that.
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>>81949712
>i wanna see a bunch of daves or a bunch or daves
>a bunch of daves or a bunch or daves
Nigga What
>>
reminder that ROSE has the biggest tits in the comic
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>>81949411
>Rose, who refused to fully mature and kept her relationship as a comfort zone, grows up to be a miserable bitch

Feels bad at how accurate this is.
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>>81949712
Good ole Karkat helped Jade by letting Dave get over his timetravel fears
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>>81949411
It's a good thing AlphaRose never had the chance to raise Roxy.
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>>81949839
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>>81949765
mb a bunch of daves or a bunch or johns
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>>81949569
last one i have
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>>81949794
Wish there was more of this, it's fucking pathetic how untapped timeclone orgies are
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>>81949639
Yeah
here's a link to it
http://takaratime.tumblr.com/post/37293144617/damara-and-equius-hit-it-off
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>>81949712
a bunch of daves or a bunch of johns my mistake
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>>81949839
ah homestuck sluts, damaged girls will do anything mmm
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>>81949794
Karkat's such a good friend to Dave and Jade. I wonder if he'll be best man at their wedding
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