CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR

>>81936418
I was kind of hoping Cap would honestly. I would have cried. It'd be nice to have a cry.

>>81936467
It'll happen in "Infinity War". Either him or Iron Man.

>>81936418
I'm more angry that That Cap single-handedly beat Iron man

>>81936527
He's the superior fighter and tactician. Plus he can do it all day.

>>81936526
Just like how people were swearing up and down it would happen in Civil War?

>>81936567
Now people are going to say that batman can beat Iron man the same way.

>>81936418
It's not just that no one dies, it's that there are no meaningful consequences to this (or, really any Marvel) movie. Everything that happens can be easily undone without any fuss. You could skip the whole thing and still watch Infinity War without losing anything.

I assumed it from the get go. All the people speculating otherwise weren't keeping the bigger picture in mind, namely that they want these guys for Infinity War down the line.

>>81936628
>Evans and Downey Jr. both confirmed for "Infinity War".

Those were silly people.

If it came down between the Avengers putting aside their differences and being friends again and Cap dying only to be revived in IW, and how it actually ended, I prefer the real ending. I'm way more interested in the journey of how all the characters are going to recover from this than some team up adventure of them getting an infinity stone to bring Cap back and the Avengers go on as usual.

>>81936688
>It's just going to be Steve in a flashback/hallucination! Y-you'll see!

>>81936650
Batman is a scrub compared to Cap.

>>81936567

Literally one repulsor blast should be enough, he blew up robots with it in IM2, fair enough he isn't trying to kill him, but at least put it to a level to injure him

>>81936418
No because there's no one I want to see dead.
I want to see fucking everyone in IW, even if it's a clusterfuck.

>>81936897
He blows off Bucky's arm.

>>81936418
For a movie that was all "ramifications for the entire MCU!" it's nothing that won't be resolved by a tense talk scene in IW. So, yeah I'm quite a bit miffed.

>>81936657
Captain America is an outlaw, the Avengers are fractured, Iron Man has alienated nearly everyone close to him, Wakanda is in turmoil over the death of its king and its relations with the United Nations are shaky, and the Sokovia Accords are in full effect, threatening the activities of all superhumans emerging across the planet.

I'd say those were pretty far-reaching consequences. I fail to see how much Cap dying would change it, especially since all leaks claiming that pointed to Bucky taking the shield anyway.

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>nobody dies.
Whew, that actually makes me more psyched to see it, Cap is without a doubt my favourite thing in the MCU. I honestly started reading Captain America comics because of the films.

I usually read Steve in Evans' voice

>>81936897
Didn't Cap take a point-blank repulsor blast to the chest in AoU and shrugged it off?

>>81936958
Yeah, all the people that haven't SEEN the fucking movie and claiming there are no consequences because Cap doesn't die are being stupid.

I'm excited for the BP movie now seeing how that ties into what the fuck just went down.

I was certain that Steve would die, but I actually prefer that he doesn't. Evans is a treasure and they should keep him close to the chest now that he's open for extending his contract and RDJ's is up.

>>81936766
Or him getting revived. We're talking cape here.

>the Accords actually don't get shut down

thats a better twist than just "Cap dies and they go away lol"

>>81936866
If it were strictly hand to hand of course Cap would beat bats, but with his gadgets he can beat cap.
>>81936897
Are you saying he lost because he was holding back? if so then I may still watch this movie.

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I don't care as long as no one is clearly set up to die and then doesn't with no explanation for why they live

>>81936958
You know as much as I do that the Accords will amount to dog shit in the movies leading to Infinity War. Strange will certainly not get hassled, Spidey is street level and no one wants to see him deal with the accords together with his highschool stuff and then there's Ants who will most likely not deal with it either since it doesn't fit his fun theme.

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So, only one of the post-credits scenes was in the movie, what do you think the other two will be?
I'm betting on this.

>>81937082
Better
>Accords will give Zemo the power to go full THUNDERBOLTS

>>81937001

Yes, but Iron Man probably wasn't actually trying to hurt him.

Also that's got nothing to do with anything, I could see Cap survive a 50 cal to the head or nuke in these movies if the stupid writers wanted, it doesn't mean that there is any way it should be possible.

>>81937050
I prefer that he didn't because reviving him in IW would have seemed way too cheap and predictable. I like that it kept the conflict between Tony and Steve unresolved and their fractured relationship to carry forward and have lasting effects.

>>81936940

Exactly my fucking point, if he can blow up a metal arm he can at least knock out a flesh and bone human.

>>81937130
That's a lot of assumptions.

Especially since it's been mentioned "Spider-Man: Homecoming" would deal with the Accords.

Plus it'll definitely affect "Black Panther".

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>>81936418
>nobody dies.
So, what was the point of the movie then?

>>81937246
>Especially since it's been mentioned "Spider-Man: Homecoming" would deal with the Accords.
Just so they have actual fuel for JJJs hatred of Spidey. Mark my words.

>Plus it'll definitely affect "Black Panther".
That I can believe more. Him refusing it could very well lead to war with Wakanda.

>>81937246
There were rumors since CW filming began almost a year ago that the Civil War would be prominent throughout the entire Phase 3 and that you would see it a lot in the solo Spiderman movie.
Looks like they were right

>>81937160
Is there actual confirmation there's more than one?

>>81937283
Muh Accords staying in place and Ross probably felating himself because he'll have potentially the chance to get himself an entire army of supers.

>>81937283
capes now have to be monitored by the government or they are fugitives of the law

>>81937092
>If it were strictly hand to hand of course Cap would beat bats
HA! Batman has defeated worse and has been trained by the best. Cap only has his shield and his drugs.

>>81937295
There probably is.
In pre-screenings they never show all post-credit scenes.

>>81936418
Good. It would have gotten spoiled within the next three weeks constantly and Steve needs to have his moment with Thanos.

>>81936418
>complete reverse of Civil War with Cap winning straight up
Oh man so many people are gonna be triggered watching that in the theater

I wonder if Marvel regrets announcing "Infinity War". Seems like ever since they did there's a large contingent that just regards everything aside from it as a filler.

>>81937160
Wanda having a small part in Strange akin to Falcon in Ant-Man would be ideal. I feel like all the upcoming solo movies need at least a cameo or tie in to the fallout of Civil War.

If there were more Cap movies coming out, I'd say something hinting to one of those super soldiers in Siberia not really being dead. Wasn't that the plot of one of the comics?

>>81937283
I think probably a change of tone for the Phase 3, to have the Accords in the background throughout all movies.

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>nothing important happens in the end
>10/10 guys!

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>>81936418

I'm surprised people aren't complaining about how mediocre it is.

Fuck you.

>>81937367
tfw I actually wanted to see Cap and Bucky tag-teaming a bunch of supersoldier assassins.

>>81937318
So, basically the regular comic view on capes? Minus the monitoring that is.

I'd like to see them try that after Strange and co. saved a city or two and are beloved by the populance.

And cue the the console war cucks!

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>Cap winning Iron Man
Glorious, can't wait to see all my friends' faces.
Thank you Russos.

>>81937398
Because it's actually good.

I don't know how /co/ can give Whedon so much shit for killing Coulson and Quicksilver for shock event and then go "NO DEATH IN MUH CIVIL WAR? DROPPED"

>>81937398
they're all mediocre all that matters is if it's better than the Thor movies and Iron Man sequels

>>81937367
>Wanda
Post-Credit scene of Strange.

>>81937286
Not to mention the fugitive(s) Black Panther is now harboring. I really hope his film deals with that. Political tensions of Wakanda vs the UN would be great.

The fact that Evans and RDJ both want to be those characters til the end of time makes this a whole different ball game. In the movies, the characters are only as good as the actors.

>the CW comic was crap
>CW II will be crap
>this movie sounds like a big disappointment
Children, never create something with the title of Civil War.

>>81937442
Report and move on.
Based mods do delete them in here.

>>81937474
>Evans and RDJ both want to be those characters til the end of time
Aren't they afraid of typecasting? Or did they stop caring after the first Marvel check?

>Civil Skirmish

>>81937534
Phase 4 is pretty much gonna be a soft-reboot.

>>81937422
Same. I really hope one of them survived. I remember there being a comic where one broke out after being presumed dead and fucking shit up. I just have no idea where in the current movie lineup this can come into play.

>>81937544
>Civil Domestic

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>>81937554
>soft-reboot
...the MCU is really going to end like the Ultimate Universe, isn't it?

>>81937534
Evans was initially afraid and mentioned he wanted to direct more after his contract was up. But his first movie was critically panned and it looks like it disencouraged him from pursuing directing quite as much.

RDJ said he's more than happy to jump between Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes 'till he's done, but he's getting way too expensive for Marvel.

>>81937554
This. I would have said Inhumans based too, but I heard this was put on hold until the stars die.

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Remember that time when Scarlet Witch brainwashed Hulk into raping her?
I wonder if we'll get something like this in CW or IW.

>>81937534
I think they're very devoted to the franchise now that it's proven successful and both their characters fan favorite, and now that MCU has a more coherent vision and proven track record. And that Whedon is gone.

>>81937615
delete this, she would never do that

>>81937607
Marvel is probably the only people that can still afford RDJ at this point.

>>81937598
It's not a soft-reboot, unless that applies to them shifting focus to new characters now that the old cast's contracts are up.

>>81937598
I think he worded that wrong. Phase 4 will still have two Strange movies, Spidey movies and so on.

>>81937607
>RDJ said he's more than happy to jump between Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes 'till he's done, but he's getting way too expensive for Marvel.
Well how long until he is done? I doubt anyone wants to see Old Man Tony

>>81937607
>his first movie was critically panned
Source? And a Crying Evans GIF, if possible?

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>>81937689
It was a romcom which he also starred in.
Also, no crying Evans, have trap Evans instead.

>>81937665
Go away, Vision.

>>81937166
What? Zemo was exposed and locked up and, if anything, the Accords make it harder for the Thunderbolts to be a thing. We won't be seeing them until Phase 4 at the earliest, anyway.

>>81937689
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/before_we_go/

But at least he got to make out with Alice Eve a bit. Totally worth it.

>>81937625
Well, unless this >>81937398 becomes the norm.
>repetitive arguments
>in aseries of cape movies
YOU DON'T SAY?

>>81937726
If there were Thunderbolts I don't think they could fit them in Phase 3 anyway.

>>81937738
Next time he should make a MCU movie; critics would automatically give him a minimum of 8.

>>81937781
Madness.

>>81937726
>Accords
What are those?

>>81937775
James Gunn pretty much confirmed Warner's "Suicide Squad" killed any chance of Thunderbolts.

>>81936527
What are you talking about, he had Bucky's help throughout the whole fight.

>>81937814
He said he wanted to direct, but not anymore due to GOTG.

>>81937738
I imagine if the Birdman Effect applied here.

>>81936418

Eh another bloodless disney movie without consequences or a story that matters. Heroes still being ass holes to eachother despite knowing eachother for years.

Eh I'll watch a cam online maybe kind of over Disney.

>>81937685
No, I meant that Phase 4 is going to be about telling new stories in new directions. Marvel Studios is more than likely recast heavily.

>>81937812
Do you know literally nothing about the movie you're posting in the thread about?

>>81937677
I can see RDJ going before Evans, simply because he's older. Though it'd be easy enough to transition both into mentor roles in the MCU. Have Steve become Captain Rogers, replace Fury. But he's still fairly young compared to most of the cast, if Marvel plays it right and doesn't kill him in IW to be dramatic, they can keep him around for a long time.

A dramatic flashy death would be better used on RDJ and a good way of "redeeming" his character at this point since most of the Avengers hate him now.

>>81937726
Who the fuck do you think he will befriend in that nice little prison?

>>81937814
>Warner's "Suicide Squad" killed any chance of Thunderbolts
And this is bad because?
>>81937845
Explain.

>>81936418
Yeah. What's the point? What are the stakes? Is it just two hours of a hissy fit between friends? How will it matter in the next movie?

>>81937881
It's not like RDJ has to do much.
Just walk around and have a camera in his face in front of green screen for the helmet shots.

>>81937867
I doubt it. If Evans comes back, and it looks like he will, they can just anchor the entire new slew around him and Spidey and give focus to guys like Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, etc.

Maybe even get the Fantastic Four back.

>>81937738
>23% - 57%
Welp, I guess that pic of Affleck and Evans will not be seen around anymore.

>>81937814
Why?
Because some stole his "let's make a movie about villain characters!" idea, which a lot of people had in the past?

>>81937598
I don't think Peter's gonna die and get replaced by a black kid though

>>81937890
The people who will make up his Masters of Evil. They come before Thunderbolts, and don't require as much exposition.

>>81937922
Dude. Disney, Marvel, minorities. Do the math.

>>81937891
>>81937920
No, Gunn said he was interested in directing the Thunderbolts movie, but he said he won't be able to because he's now focused on GOTG 2, and he will probably be busy with GOTG 3.

>>81937824
Did he?, all I was told is that cap was that cap over powered Iron man and beat the suit off him one vs one, which is why I didn't want to watch it anymore because that just doesn't make sense

>>81937915
>tfw when Evans will be the only one to truly expand his contract
He's the best part anyway.

Everyone who is posting "WHAT IS THE POINT" is actually retarded and more than likely didn't see the movie

1. Avengers are fractured and broken now.
2. Future Superheroes must be monitored with the government, else they're seen as vigilante's.

>>81937918
Why? Affleck didn't direct BvS and Evans didn't direct Civil War.

>>81937923
They might as well just use the term Thunderbolts for it because I doubt that they would use the term Masters of Evil straight.

>>81937949
They cast Peter young because they plan on keeping him around for a long time. Once the actor starts getting older and has his own trilogy, and if these movies are still going strong, then they'll introduce Miles. But I think it's clear they plan on strongly establishing Peter in the MCU first.

>>81937949
But you forget the most important part: nobody actually gives a shit about Morales.

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>wanting another fake death in the MCU

The people who should stay for Phase 4 should be
Cap, Wanda, Vision, Antman and Wasp, and of course the newcomers from Phase 3.

>>81937951
>Gunn said he was interested in directing the Thunderbolts movie
He said literally the opposite.

http://www.newsarama.com/26322-james-gunn-drops-major-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-hints-reveals-his-favorite-characters-more.html

>Gunn also spoke about his future projects, saying he was no longer interested in directing a Thunderbolts movie, primarily because of his involvement with Marvel's cosmic wing keeping his hands full. Gunn also revealed that he is consulting on several more cosmic projects for Marvel, but could not say what they might be. Though he no longer wants to direct Thunderbolts, Gunn said if he were to work on another Marvel property outside of the cosmic side, he would want to direct a Hulk film, though it would not be based on "Planet Hulk." Gunn also said that if Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 performed well, further sequels were "likely."

>>81937954
Maybe see the movie for yourself instead of believing what every random anon tells you, including me.

>>81938004
Just call them the Masters like EMH did. Calling them the villain group the Thunderbolts would mean they couldn't actually do the Thunderbolts.

>>81938030
That's what I mean, he's not going to direct Thunderbolts because of GOTG, doesn't mean that they are not going to make a Thunderbolts movie.

>>81938023
Recast for Thor? It would be hard to completely ignore him and the entirety of Asgard.

>>81937992
>Avengers are fractured and broken now.
Well...to be fair the original Avenger team was broken up at the end of AoU already.
The way they make it sound had me thinking this would be a full on Disassembled scenario.

>Future Superheroes must be monitored with the government, else they're seen as vigilante's.
Supers ARE vigilantes anyway.

>>81937915

>Maybe even get the Fantastic Four back.

First, the whole reason why Fan4stic was made was to keep the rights. Also Marvel has said they really only care about Galactus and the Silver Silver.

>>81937476
>Disappointment cause no one died
You still have AoU and BvS

>>81938089
I don't know, are they even going to do anything interesting with Thor?
They have never shown too much interest in him.
Hell, his entire arc for AoU got butchered.

>>81938089
Keep Hemsworth. All his non-Marvel movies are flopping and he might need the job.

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>movies called CIVIL WAR
>Nobody dies

For fucking real?

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>>81938089
>Recast for Thor? It would be hard to completely ignore him and the entirety of Asgard.
So what does the MCU do all the time unless it's Avengers?

>>81938107
AoU at least ended with the new team training together. Avengers had a new direction and facility and were active.

Now all the old Avengers hate Stark, and there is nobody left on the team because they're all fugitives.

>>81938107
And American goverment AND the UN in MCU had members of a Nazi cult being on leading positions. If you believe AoS' third season. Still has.

>>81938132
There's always a guy complaining about that in the first posts.
He samefags for a while and ends up giving up.

>>81938107
Not really. Banner disappeared, Hawkeye retired, Thor took a leave and Iron Man went on vacation, so they recruited some new people to fill the gap. Pretty far cry from the team hating each other's guts and on opposite sides of the law.

>>81938107
Tony, Vision, and maybe Black Widow are the only Avengers left together by the end of the film.

Everyone else is with Cap, and are on the run.

>>81938205
Isn't Cap's team locked up in the rift by the end?

>>81938162
>Now all the old Avengers hate Stark
This is honestly the highnote for me.

>>81938205
Nope, they're after BW too.

>>81938205
Black Widow leaves.

Tony is left with Rhodes and the Vision, and Rhodes isn't even apt for field duty anymore.

>>81938219
You mean the Raft, and no, Steve breaks them out.

>>81936527
>>81937954

>won't watch a movie because his favorite hero loses a fight

hoy shit keep crying little bitch

>>81938152
There wasn't a lot of deaths in main event of Civil War, too. Excluding Punisher's kills, only Bill Foster died. Cap died after Civil War as part of the arc that had very little to do with CW.

>>81938219
Cap breaks them out

And then In the post-credits, they put Bucky back on ice in Wakanda

>>81937998
But Affleck directed better movies than Evans.

>>81938267
Which remains irrelevant to the joke at hand.

>>81938148
>All his non-Marvel movies are flopping
At this rate, Marvel Studios is going to become Hollywood's biggest homeless shelter ever.

>>81938107
>Well...to be fair the original Avenger team was broken up at the end of AoU already.

everyone who left at the end of AoU got replaced by someone who fills a similar role.

Wanda replaced Hulk as the superpowerful but unstable one, Vision replaced Thor as the flying guy with a ton of abilities, Falcon replaced Hawkeye as the bird-themed normal guy, War Machine is just gray Iron Man. This movie supposedly ends with just Tony, Vision, and maybe War Machine left together.

Also, Iron Man, Thor, and Hawkeye were still on friendly terms with everyone at the end of AoU and willing to help each other still. Who knows how the fuck Thor is going to react when he comes back?

>>81938288
It doesn't.

>>81938237
Same. Movie worth watching for him getting torn down alone.

>>81938363
>I'm not mad, guys. I'm just disappointed.

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>>81938363
>Who knows how the fuck Thor is going to react when he comes back?
"Man, I can't wait for the Ragnarok!"

>>81938478
sauce

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>>81938478
Did he punch him after? I hope he did.

>>81938511
Actually...is Hemsworth confirmed for IW?

>>81938605
Yes.

>>81938595
Oh, he did something better.

>>81938605
Yes, I remember reading that they said the events of Ragnarok is a huge part of what drives his character into IW. Starlord confirmed too.

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>>81938591
One of the few JMS floppies I actually bought.

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>>81938725
btfo

>>81938643
Which we'll never see in the MCU ;_;

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In IW I want every single one of the other 62 heroes protecting her.

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>>81938657
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>>81938746
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>>81938746
Its always satisfying seeing Tony get btfo.

I was kind of hoping he'd address the whole civil war thing but I guess that'd be beating a dead horse
Thanks for posting though, saves me the trouble of actually reading.

>>81938799
>tfw im just watching CW for her and Daddyhawk

I'm kind of surprised, but I'm sure I'll enjoy the film.

Besides, at least we'll get this out of the way so people all over the internet will stop asking for a Civil War film.

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>>81938867
That and Cap.

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>>81938478
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>>81938746
If only Iron man had his Endosym Arm, he would wrecked Thor's shit

>>81939032
Cap and Wanda are my MCU husbando and waifu.

Why are they so perfect?

>those people who wanted cap to die and be brought back for Infinity War

Yeah, naw, fuck off. There are no "consequences" when someone dies only to be brought back in the next movie. If you're not ready to keep a character dead don't kill him

I'm more assblasted ove the fact that Iron Man lost to Captain America. He fought Hulk and still lost to a nerd with a fucking shield.

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>>81939069
>you will never be in this sandwich

>>81939110
Get btfo normalfag.

>>81939120
>normalfag

you mean manlet. Only manlets are assblasted over being put in their proper place

>>81938799
What a qt smile.

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>>81937319
Cap only NEEDS his shield and his drugs.

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>>81939120
>you will never be in this sandwich
Don't remind me.

>>81939110
You mean with the Hulkbuster.

>>81936418
>nobody dies
Then what about the funeral that was filmed last year?

>an idealist defeats a man who makes America great
>meanwhile, Marvel donates to Trump
Oh the hypocrisy.

>>81939149

/fit/ pls go

>>81939208
>Tony
>makes America great
Manlet please, you almost destroyed the world.

I've Civil War, it was great just some things really bothered me.

Mostly the jobbing, at one point Iron Man and War Machine are chasing Cap and Bucky who are flying away in a Jet and Falcon is on their tail and we are supposed to beleive Falcon is a threat to them.........

>implying implications

that's the one that bothered me the most but everyone on Iron Mans team were fighting no where near close to what we've seen them do in previous movies (apart from Widow), I get that they don't want to kill but they should still have enough energy to drop or knockout someone, there are also millions of less lethal things they could have at least TRIED. On top of that everyone on Caps team were GOATing it up like you've never seen before (apart from Wanda).

>Why was Blacked Widow even at the airport
>Why didn't Tony just bring a spec ops team with him
>Literally would have been much better than bringing one woman

Can't complain too much though since Wanda would have also had to go full power but she didn't so I guess theres that.

>>81939204
It's Peggy. It was known for a while.

>>81939208
>meanwhile, Marvel donates to Trump
Wait what?

>>81939272
One million bucks went to his campaign.

>>81939120
fight me nerd

>>81939272
Ike the kike donated to Trump.

>>81939293
It went to veterans.

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Who /SuperCap/ here

>>81939252
Yeah yeah, they say the same about many other corporations but you keep buying their products.

>>81939082
The next movie is Dr. Strange tho.

>>81936418
Of course Cap wasn't gonna die. We knew this the moment we learned that he was contracted appear in Infinity War.

>>81939327
>veterans
Of what? The GOP?

>>81939328
You are gay af pham.

>>81937367
>>81937471

I think this is one of the things I am most excited for. Wanda's Chaos Magic is a mystery to Stephen and them exploring it together would be how they bond. His knowledge and her emotion being a source of growth for both.

I don't care what you faggots say, Tony did nothing wrong and he would destroy Cap if this wasn't a Captain America movie.

Also, who cares if no one died, Civil War was a shit arc anyway

>>81938246

Cap is my favourite hero of all time.
I've NEVER like Tony Stark, I much prefer Rhodes if anything.

But there is no way Iron Man should loose a fight to Captain America, epecially after all the feats we've seen from IM in these films.

He definitely should be in the right, he definitely should be the protagonist, he can even win the battle and the war, but not in a one on one fight.

>>81939416
Iron Asshole built the genocidal robot in the last movie.

>>81939416
>months of assblasted Tonyfags
Delicious.

>>81939378
Nah I just like both heroes
Honest

>>81939445
But Bucky helps him. A lot. Also, he isn't thinking straight. Zemo told him about Bucky killing his parents.

Why doesn't Tony just stay in the air where Cap can't catch him and shoot repulser blasts all day long?

>>81939445
As if Cap's feats in the MCU aren't also impressive.

He took down a jet, deflected Thor's hammer and went toe to toe with Ultron. Holding his own against Iron Man and beating him is not that far fetched in the movies.

>>81939530
No one wants to kill anyone.

>>81939568
He doesn't even have to kill him that way though

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>>81939530
Bad bad writing

>>81939530

Cap could reflect them back

>>81939712
It's like people forget he has a vibranium shield.

>>81939530
He is flying in the airport fight, in the fight in the raft I think bucky damages his ARK by punching it.

>>81939712
Tank missle, regular missile or even call in the iron legion.

>>81939798
But he wants him alive.

>>81939798

shield, shield, jump on them like stepping stones to reach Iron Man

>>81939696
It's not bad writing, it's the typical ''Why didn't the eagles take Frodo to Mordor'' complaint.

It doesn't because it would be a retarded narrative choice.
Everyone wants to see Cap and Iron Man just exchange blows, not Iron Man floating over him.

>>81939826
Okay Legolas

>>81939826
Cap isn't Raiden
Made me laugh out loud though
>>81939820
Well good then at least shows it wasn't a Death Battle, Which Iron man would have won.

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Cap beat Iron Man in the comic CW too, why are people surprised it happened here? MCU Cap is also much, much stronger than 616 Cap.

>>81936418
What happens to Bucky?

>>81939945

manlets never learn

>>81939539

He didn't punch the jet to death
He didn't fist fight Thor
Ultron was also retarded Jobbing, absolute trash scene, and just made Ultron look weak, it didn't make Cap look strong.
>If Ultron can't even choke out Cap why the fuck don't they just call the military to fuck him up

Also yes it is. In Avengers Tony lands in the engine of the Helicarrier and comes out armor intact enough to fly him all the way to Avengers mansion.

In Iron Man 1 the first suit is taking hits from what I remember to be .50 cal rounds, might have been 7.62 which is obviously alot less but still. He also took a tank mortar directly and came out with no scratches.

>>81939991
Cap fucks him hard and forces Falcon to watch.

>>81940026
>He didn't punch the jet to death
>He didn't fist fight Thor

he used the shield for both of those,which he would presumably have in a fight with Iron Man

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>CapxBucky broken
>Cap beating Iron Man

Is this movie carefully crafted to make mad as many people as possible?

>>81939945

Civil War is a shit comic.
MCU Cap is much stronger yet it still doesn't make sense.
I love Steve and I hate Tony but it just doesn't even begin to make sense.
Obviously I don't mind that much because Tony is a faggot I just don't want them to make a habit out of it and turn Steve into Batman where he can never loose a fight and always seems to get stat boots every time he fights opponents out of his league.

>>81940128
In the comic Vision damages his suit, I think.

>>81940162

in the movie Bucky damages his suit, I think

>>81940093

>The shield covers Steves whole body

Thor only tried to hit him once, then calmed down, Thor could have killed both of them, shield or energy boost regardless if he wanted to.

>>81940226
>he can't move the shield to block hits

wew

>>81940226
>Thor could have killed both of them
No he couldn't, considering how much of a problem iron man alone was giving him. Thor is a massive joke in this universe.

ALL IRON MAN HAS TO DO IS FLY HIGHER THAN CAP CAN JUMP OR THROW HIS SHIELD AND USE HIS ARSENAL HOLY FUCK I AM SO MAD

>>81940178
>>81940162

The point I'm trying to make is that I've actually seen the film and I was cringing even as a Steve fan at what I was watching.

The worst though has to be War Machine jobbing though.

I still can't get over the scene where Falcon was chasing Iron Man and War Machine, like it would matter if he caught up to them or not.

>>81940267
Iron Man wasn't doing much of anything. Thor wasnt even bleeding.

>>81940226
>Thor only tried to hit him once, then calmed down
Because of the massive shockwave that knocked thor on his ass.

>critics hailing this as a 10/10
Can we finally conclude that critics are paid shills?

>>81940267

>I didn't watch the movie

Iron Man started loosing and his suit was getting destroyed till Cap came to his rescue.

>>81940267

hey now, Thor was about to crush Iron Man's suit with his bare hands and it's not like Cap could really hurt him.

>>81940334

Do you honestly beleived that did any damage to Thor?

>ob

>>81940277
HE DOESN'T ACTUALLY WANT TO KILL CAP YOU FUCKING RETARD.

Holy shit. All the people who say "lel just blast him with missiles what's so hard" are autistic.

>>81940320
He sent him flying through a tree with his own lightning, while thor was in a crazed bloodlust screaming incoherently. Iron man wasn't even worried and just danced around him quipping.
>>81940341
> and his suit was getting destroyed
A slight dent in his helmet and gauntlet does not equal getting ass kicked.

>>81940398
>A slight dent

Thor was crushing the dude's arms once he got hold of him.Iron Man was only staying alive by pulling out trick after trick and slipping away.

>>81937615
>remember that time Wanda raped Banner with her mind powers
ftfy

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>>81940501
She femdom'd him into raping her.

>>81940456
>>81940398

And remember this was Iron Man boosted to 400% power.

>>81940386

He doesnt have to kill him you absolute fucking moron.

How about that cage that he used on the Hulk in AOU?
How about the Iron Legion? Would't have to kill anyone, just fight them till they get tired.
How about the sound/forcefield generator weapons from Stark Industries that they used on the Hulk in the Incredible Hulk.

>HE LE DOESN'T WANT TO LE KILL HIM

I've seen the movie, he wouldn't even have had to use any missles, just at least not act 100% retarded.

>What are smoke rounds
>What is tear gass
>What are less lethal rounds
>Why not just set your repulsor to shrek instead of light tap

>

>>81940456
And quipping, don't forget the quipping.

>>81940398

Yes but it would have been destroyed in a minute or two had Cap not come to his rescue.

>>81940631
Because they don't want to make a boring fight where Iron Man just floats around spamming nades on him.

>>81940662
How many quips in this movie?

>>81940627
From thors useless lightning.

>>81940662
this xddd

>>81940677
Yes but why not just make it so that Iron Man's suit was malfunctioning or something?
Regardless I'm happy with the decision, Cap BTFOing Iron Man is good compensation for Supes losing to Batman

>>81940663
More like after several hours, maybe.

>>81940715

don't be upset, quip-bro

we're on the right side of history

>>81940702
that was the only way to give iron man a chance against him. After Iron Man gets power boosted every time they trade blows Thor doesn't look fazed ad all and Iron Man gets rekt.

>>81940744

Several days, really. Iron Man is above all of the other heroes in the MCU, there's no way Asgardian ''''technology'''' would compete.

>>81936418
It comes off as being weak and playing it too safe. There is nothing wrong with having a little grit in your universe. To show that even the greatest of heroes still tread a line of danger. That even they aren't immune to the real dangers and even death. But, that doesn't stop them from taking up their responsibilities time and time again.

I don't know the rational behind this decision, but I will say it's pretty annoying to me that this event is being left without any major consequence. I know children watch these movies, and yeah, it would suck to see their favorite hero fall. But I feel like it would give a sense of respect to the older audience to see their emotional investment tested, to feel sad but still have respect for the property and characters, to build a narrative from this going forward.

I may be in the minority in feeling this way, it just seems like a waste to me. You can still be family friendly but introduce the concept of bravery in mortality. Disney has done it in plenty of movies before. Why back down now?

>>81940736
>in both films the overpowered hero jobs hard to make the badass "normal" dude look good

I'm pretty salty about this to be honest.

>>81940631
>How about that cage that he used on the Hulk in AOU?

destroyed by Hulk

>How about the Iron Legion? Would't have to kill anyone, just fight them till they get tired.

destroyed by Tony in IM3 and then destroyed by Ultron again in AoU

>How about the sound/forcefield generator weapons from Stark Industries that they used on the Hulk in the Incredible Hulk.

does he normally carry one of those?

Why didn't Bucky just use that super minethrower he had in Winter Soldier to BTFO Stark?

>>81940677

And the truth shall set you free...

That's the reason!

Not that Cap is Superman like you seemed to be implying in your stupid arguments earlier.

Unless it wasn't you.

>>81940838
>this event is being left without any major consequence
>only death can be a major consequence
lol

>>81940744
>arms start getting crushed in seconds
>hours

No way Tony would last 5 minutes more.

>>81940819
Considering starks tech is apparently immune to infinity gems, you're completely right.

>>81938023
I hope we will got more movies of Captain America, he is my favourite of the MCU actually

>>81940902
>>arms start getting crushed in seconds
He slightly bent his gauntlet and then couldn't squeeze anymore.

>>81940867
What the fuck is a mine gonna do to a guy that got blown out of the sky by a tank and wasn't even damaged?

>>81940736
>This bullshit victory is compensation for the bullshit victory in this other movie

Uh, okay.

>>81940867

Why doesn't he just build another one?
Why doesn't he just build some more?

I don't know why doesn't he? Oh because they don't sell them in the fucking shops you moron.

Unlike the Cage which can be replaced and the suits which can also be replaced.

>>81940953
What? The only reason he stopped is because Iron Man blasted him in the face. He could have likely kept going and outright broken Tony's arms.

>>81940972
Whatever, we all got what we wanted, Iron Manlet getting btfo.

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>>81940953

>we took the bait for this long

ok guys we can go home now

>>81940959

dude

do you not remember Fury's car and how super armored it was, taking machine gun fire for like over a minute? And then the mine 1HKO'd it

>wasn't damaged

It didn't do anything major but the tank shot definitely dented him.

>>81941008

>Using logic and reason against drones

You naive soul

>>81940974

so instead of fighting Cap you want him to go back to the workshop and start building that shit? ok then, that still wouldn't count as a victory

Tony was never a great fight nor strategist, he's just very smart and spontaneous jumping on fire first and then making things as they go. I'm not surprised he lost considering he wasn't on his mind and unable to do fast thinking. I'm a Tonyfag and I ain't even mad now

>>81941017
>>81941069

Oh shut the fuck up. MCU Thor is not 616 Thor and he never will be. He's slightly above black widow in this universe.

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I wish Scarlet Witch got to btfo Tony at least once.

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>Iron Man beat the Hulk with the Hulkbuster
>doesn't have tech advanced enough to beat Captain America

>>81941181
>3. Just 7.9 in IGN
>4. Everyone on /tv/ and /co/ mad about the movie.

Do these two matter towards the quality of the movie?

>>81941194
Apparently she does in this movie.

>>81941128
How did he lose? Weren't cap and bucky fighting with him? 2 vs 1 its not a fair fight. Also..in the comic cap cheated

>>81941197
>with the Hulkbuster
>which got rekt in the process, and which he had been saving specifically to fight the Hulk
>doesn't have a Capbuster on hand

>>81941240
For /co/, absolutely.

>>81941181
>4. Everyone on /tv/ and /co/ mad about the movie.
This is almost always a good sign

>>81941188
>survives a city blowing up in his face
>just above black widow

>>81936418
Well, that's a good thing, they make Stark looks like shit in AoU and this is already bad enough if they killed Capt or some other dude off then many kids will fuck-off.

Just keep the light hearts tone at the end of the movie at this shit will sell like water.

>>81941181
>Everyone on /tv/ and /co/ mad about the movie.
What?
People on /co/ are just discussing it, and in /tv/ there's nothing but autistic company war drones.

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>>81941194
>SW and Vision won't be a couple

>>81941240
Who knows. I'll see it to form a fair opinion about the movie but i would be lying if i didn't say my hype its now very low. I'll just go see it with low expectations just lile every other cape movie

>>81941310
Always hated that couple and their shit children. Vision could do a whole lot better, at least in the comics.

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>>81941310
Vision apparently prepares a Sokovian dish for Wanda.

>>81941254
He could easily repair it and use again against cap

>>81941349

do sokovians typically eat robo-cock?

>>81941252
It's not supposed to be a "fair" fight when one person is trying to kill another person's best friend. You expect Cap to step back and let Tony murder Bucky in a blind emotional rage? They didn't just gang up on him for no reason. Tony is the aggressor and they are defending themselves.

>>81941389
Maybe. Shame Vision is as smooth as a doll down there.

>>81937130
>and then there's Ants who will most likely not deal with it either since it doesn't fit his fun theme.
We will see him again struggling with the fact he will not be near his daughter again.

>>81941381

So you want him to fly home, repair Veronica, then come back, and maybe Cap is still waiting for him to fight?

>>81941419
Wanda and him can just have sex psychically.

>>81941381
He wasn't preparing to fight Cap. He gets emotionally compromised and then attacks.

>>81941348
Byrne pls, don't you have some underaged girls to draw?

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>>81941471
You mean mutual mindrape?

>>81941348
Yeah, Wanda should kill Vision, and the children too.
Fuck all of them, that's the only way Wanda will achieve greatness.

>>81941520
>entertaining
At least you admit the MCU is not about quality.

>>81941520

you forgot

>people bitching that a character whose major development was not spending all his time building backup robots doesn't have an endless supply of backup robots anymore

It's a fucking Marvel movie, of course no one dies.

Oh boy, company war drones are here, better prepare those reports.

>>81941427
>Finally gets to bond with his family.
>The Avengers call him.
>The gov is looking for him now.

>>81941496
Wait, she gave birth to her brother?

>Everybody is angry because Cap doesn't die.
>Forget that Cap's death lasted one year in the comics.

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>>81941691
She was already pregnant.

>>81941658

The govt doesn't know he's Ant-Man, only his family, Pym and his buddies do. Also out of all the heroes, Ant-Man is the one who could most easily manage being a fugitive and never get caught.

>>81941685
Why are you speaking like a 10 year old?

>>81941722
>Quickass is still dead

Goddamn fuck Whedon.

>>81941416
Faggot killed his parents, he deserves to die

>>81941722
>That interview with Elizabeth Olsen where she said she played Scarlet Witch as if she were in an incestuous relationship with Pietro

>>81941748
Except for the fact that he's locked up in the Raft at one point along with the rest of Cap's team. The government would definitely find out who he is after taking off his suit.

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>>81941815
>as if
>implying they weren't
You just KNOW.

>>81941815

l-link?

>>81941748
Yeah, after collapsing he should've gone micro to run away.

Then at the end when Cap is freeing everyone, a giant hand could tear up the roof of the building. That way nobody would ever know who he was.

But the Russos/Gunn/Reed/Watts all work in the same building, so they talk these things through. There's a lot more synergy now.

>>81941834

How did they detain him? He can shrink out of handcuffs. Did they already have PymParticle-neutralizing restraints ready to go? Would have made more sense if they captured everyone but Ant-Man slipped away and helped Cap free them.

>>81941929
Probably took his helmet away. He can't without it. He was unconscious at the end of the fight, I heard

>>81940897
Well, with one of the heroes die then they will fall apart forever but with everyone lives...Well, I think you know how it end.

>>81941968

welp, RIP

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>>81941867
She said she read the Ultimates version and that she and Aaron worked to make the twins seem much closer than normal and that they played around with all the incest thing.

>>81941929
They take him down while he's giant-size. They just would have had to have taken off his helmet and he couldn't have gone ant-size without killing himself.

>>81941815
Well, they have a kid in Godzilla, lol.

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>>81941979
Well, at least we will have picrelated as the perfect ending for IW part 1.

>>81941996
>They just would have had to have taken off his helmet and he couldn't have gone ant-size

does Team Iron Man know this? Actually, why the fuck would they send him to prison anyway? He never signed any Accords. Weren't the Accords directed specifically at the guys named in the document?

>>81941774
Everybody in the Avengers have killed somebody, voluntarily or through brainwashing. So in that case, they all deserve to die, including Tony himself.

>>81942063
The Accords predict you either become a government-sponsored superhero or cease activities. Considering Ant-Man was still an illegal superhuman AND aiding a group of fugitives AND a repeated offender, it's obvious he'd be thrown in jail.

>>81942066

>Faggot killed Wandas parents

>>81942063
He was helping a bunch of fugitives, including Bucky, the guy believed to have bomb the UN. Why the fuck wouldn't they arrest him?

And the Accords are directed at all superheroes. Cap and friends are fugitives because they wouldn't sign and they're still doing unauthorized superhero-ing.

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>>81942130
Faggot has indirectly caused the death of her entire family.

>>81942044
I think IW1 will end with Thanos arriving/close to arriving on earth

>yfw Thanos punches Thor uncounscious.
>yfw Thanos uses the time gem to shrink Steve to his skinny self
>yfw Steve still does this while skinny with his clothes hanging off of him
>yfw he still holds up the shield
>yfw Thanos breaks the shield and sends Cap to the ground towards Mjolnir
>yfw Steve grabs the hammer, gets rebuffed, gets Asgardian blue mail armor and a winged helmet
>yfw Steve smacks Thanos with the hammer and distracts him long enough for a disfigured Loki taking the place of Nebula grabs the gauntlet out of Thanos' hand
>yfw when Steve yells AVENGERS ASSEMBLE after that and everyone alive gangs up on Thanos
>yfw Loki restores himself and redeems himself for Thanos hurting his brother and destroying Asgard

screencap this.

>>81942231
i'm a big guy for you
screencap this

>>81942130
Tony didn't kill her parents. They're just looking for a scapegoat

>>81942111
>>81942134
>And the Accords are directed at all superheroes

I thought their was a line for each Avenger by name and a spot for each of their signatures or some shit.

>>81942231
What, no quips?

>>81942268
Whedon is long gone by now, anon.

>>81942266
Initially, to agree with the Accords.
Then they just enforce them globally.

>>81942266
Because they're the only superheroes the government is aware of at that point. But whoever pops up afterwards will be required to sign as well.

>>81942294
Thank god they fired him.
Really interested in seeing what comes from IW.

>>81942231
The visual of a re-scrawny Cap getting juiced by Mjolnir would be the greatest scene in the MCU

>>81942297

So how is Ant-Man even supposed to be held accountable for what's on the Accords if they didn't give him the same chance to see them?

>>81942268
Infinity War is by the Russos's Team

>>81942266

>he thinks a peice of paper that comes with the dvd is canon

>>81942343
Because he still fights Iron Man's team, so they arrest him.

>>81942339
I wrote all that to justify >>81942044 happening with skinny Steve.

>>81942343
He reneged on his chance for a fair opportunity when he aided wanted fugitives.

>>81942343
I never signed any law saying I wouldn't aid a suspected terrorist and a group of fugitives. Does that mean I can't go to jail if I do? Are you retarded and don't understand how law works?

>>81942343

>because we're the goverment
>do what we tell you or else

pretty realistic