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This picture has never been more relevant.
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Remember when Homestuck was good?
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Last words each important character said in-comic:

John: yeah!!!
Rose: The degree of maturity you are showing here is really bad for morale.
Dave: why are we so fucking awesome
Jade: see ya!!!!!!!!!!
Jane: That would be great too!
Jake: By my estimation that makes you a dead ringer for the alice of this tea party!
Roxy: k guys???
Dirk: Anybody ever asked.

Karkat: I HOPE HE'S OK.
Terezi: YOU BOTH DON3 W1TH YOUR ROOFTOP F33L1NGS J4M?
Vriska: Why is everything always so wonderful?
(Vriska): Can you just stay a little longer so we can talk a8out this?
(Tavros): yES, mY LIEGE,
Gamzee: HONK.
Aradia: sounds like a dare to me
Sollux: can s0me0ne please tell me wh0 is talking. / LADIES.
Kanaya: Im Sure That Possibly All Made Sense Good Speech
Meenah: sea ya nubs

Hussie: I wonder what Spades Slick is doing right now.
Calliope: yoUr friends all miss yoU here.
Alt!Calliope: goodbye, jade.
Nannasprite: HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO!
ARquius: YES!!!!!
Davepeta: this is supposed to wake you up!
Jasprose: Please give these bros my best, then.
GCATavros: ACHOO,

Caliborn: I WANTED TO PLAY A GAME.
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>>81777327
First for determinism and loop theory
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The ANNOYING DOG has absorbed the ending.
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>>81777349
No
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>>81777327
>big bads are dead or disarmed (jack)
>all the kids live happily ever after even though they are the last humans (besides jane's dad)
>caproacians still overrun earth because Jade and Dave didn't want to go back to fuckin human times
>Roxy didn't make sacrificial slabs to make the troll god tier and save them
>aradia nowhere to be found even though she's god tier
>so many fucking open holes and loose threads it could be a Siberian porno
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>>81777327
This was the kind of shit I wanted from the ending. Hussie totally dropped the ball on the meta elements of Homestuck, something that was the heart and soul of the comic
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HOMESTUCK IS A DAMN WASTE
HOMESTUCK IS A DAMN MESS
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Did Homestuck end yet?

I haven't read it in ages, but I was planning on re-reading the whole thing when it was finished.
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>>81777351
>Caliborn: I WANTED TO PLAY A GAME.
Caliborn constantly proving that he's the only good thing left in this story.
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So the point of the game was to destroy your homeworld and replace all its inhabitants with chess people that you have to watch over?
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Why is everybody saying the new universe they created is the one Calliope and Caliborn inhabit?

Genuine question, I've paused on this comic long enough that a lot of the details are hazy. All I remember is that the planet was covered in shitty jpg Statues of Liberty.
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What I feel bad for is that the whole story was building up to be something such as Cave Story.

Then Act7 came and the whole thing suddenly became another copy of Assassins Creed or Uncharted.

I blame the Mega and Omega pauses. Fucking hiatus, killing everything I love.
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>people STILL don't get that the ending was a fake made by Caliborn
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So

What do we do now?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-vaZwirDw
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First and last lines:
>What is his name?
>That is the best fucking questions anybody has ever asked
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post yfw TIDoMS was the best thing Hussie wrote since Problem Sleuth, but part 2 is never coming out
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I wonder how Hussie feels right now.
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>>81777386
ITS OVER
NOW WE WAIT EAGERLY FOR A EPILOGUE
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>>81777386
It's over
Don't read it it's a waste of time
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lets do a kickstart to punch hussie in the face
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>>81777379
So my erotic fanfiction of Jade repopulating the earth by knocking up Roxy, Rose, and Jane is safe and intact.
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>>81777379
see:
81775476
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>>81777388
The point of the game is to create new universes at the cost of one planet.
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So, what was the last thing in Homestuck that Hussie actually drew?
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http://strawpoll.me/7359067

Ouch.
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>>81777395
ha
so lemme guess, 4/13/2030 we get a real one
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>>81777433
Some stuff in Collide. It was the last thing he finished.
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>>81777410
>Don't read it it's a waste of time
Well obviously. It was never going to be anything but a waste of time anyway.

But I'm a NEET loser so I have nothing but time to waste, so it's a perfect match.
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>>81777380
I was hoping for Hussie to do something, particularly involving a never-ending story reference.

Was this meant to be a trickster cherub in sex mode?
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>>81777422
CANON
A
N
O
N
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Act 7 could have been a tribute video. Nothing shown was anything we weren't explicitly told was going to happen.
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Is Jade holging B1 or B2 Earth in her hand? Or is it the new Earth from the new universe?
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I would definitely recommend someone to read homestuck now its over but the 7 years experience? hard pass
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>>81777393
>became another copy of Assassins Creed
oh my god you're right
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>>81777424
why the fuck would you type it like that
I'm making this comment only so I won't have to scroll and find the fucking number
how fucking impossibly retardedly new are you

>>81775476
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU'RE WELCOME
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>>81777401
I still have hope. in the epilogue my sweet robots
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>>81777476
We assumed it wouldn't go exactly like we expected things to go if it weren't for the fact that we weren't expecting things to go exactly like we were expecting.
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>>81777393
>Then Act7 came and the whole thing suddenly became another copy of Assassins Creed or Uncharted.
huh?
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>>81777454
No see it's a waste of time because the ending was very beautiful but also fucking awful and kind of makes everything before it seem utterly meaningless in retrospect, but maybe we're all just bitter because of years of investment that shriveled up like sidewalk worms. The story is fun. You'll likely have at least a few characters you love because the cast is insanely large.
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>>81777393
Megapause was only 3 months long, not too bad.
The gigapause and omegapause were whaat killed the comic.
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>>81777393
>it'll never be undertale

l-o-l
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now he's going to say "for the full ending buy my game to see the fight and how trolls repopulate" because he's a greedy cunt
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friendly reminder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOJwB80oCWk
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>>81777500
I got the rest of the title in so I was cutting out replies and shit. I've been posting in here for awhile now, plus work so I'm tired, okay?
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>>81777458
Isn't that Gamzee's lusus?
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>>81777532
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>>81777532
He looks like Geese Howard if he met the Hulk.
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>>81777532
Are the stars being visible through his body a mistake or not?
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>>81777406
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>>81777468
Don't knock canon
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>>81777546
being tired is never an excuse for being a brainless shitcunt

I bet you're a woman
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>>81777529
>the ending was very beautiful but also fucking awful
This i cry at the "thanks for playing' but still expecting so much more
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>>81777557
it's dust i think
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You fags loved the garbage pile that was Collide and the actual ending was a million timers better

Suck my dick.

>>81777549
It's the dog thing from Neverending Story
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>>81777517
Does it even matter? The epilogue was not planned since the beginning or even now and hes only gonna do it to close the story.
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>>81777458
Wait, what is Hussie's fate?http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=010004
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>>81777549
Nope. It looks similar.
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>>81777579
>hussie even forgot about himself
dear lord what have we done to this man
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>>81777571
It probably have a Problem Sleuth styled epilogue.

Man Problem Sleuth was so fucking good.
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>>81777574

>implying I liked Collide

Silly you. Something felt VERY wrong with Collide and Act7 only proved it further.

Even though the music and a lot of stuff was great, I felt very unneased by that animation.
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>>81777574
At least Collide had some conclusions in it
Like side-villains getting whacked on-screen
Faggot
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>>81777574
>You fags loved the garbage pile that was Collide
Uh no.
I disliked both to be honest. At least Collide had something going on.
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>>81777574
Your opinions are wrong, Collide was at least something. SOMETHING.
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How long will it take until Hussie starts something new?
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>comic ends with Caliborn powering up and John about to step into the unknown
>people think this is the actual ending
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>>81777614
>>81777604
Huh when I showed up to the /hst/ threads people couldn't stop themselves from gushing over how awful it was and bending over backwards to suck its dick.
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>>81777639
He probably won't do anything new until after the game is done.
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>>81777639
End of Hiveswap + one year
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>>81777639
3 episodes of hiveswap and a full explanation on what homestuck 2.0 is.

so give it 3 - 4 years.
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Homestuck peaked with [S] Cascade and the last 4.5 years have just been a big waste of time.
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>>81777639
He already has! I can't wait for Joey's game!
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What bugs me THE MOST.

Has Hussie even drawed ANYTHING at all since the absurdly huge hiatus?

He went missing for an year or so and comes back with art only from other people. All music was arranged by Toby and even the last big animation was all comissioned.

What the hell was the explanation for such a huge hiatus then?
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So, /hsg/

Was it worth it?
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>>81777656
So right after Mighty No. 9 comes out, cool.
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>>81777653
It's funny because yesterday I saw someone claiming that everyone here hated Collide when it dropped.
It's almost like. Group of people have more than one opinion.
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>>81777639
Hussie's already started something new. As soon as that kickstarter launched he started paying less and less attention to HS until he just slapped a "The End" on it because he didn't want to bother anymore.
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>>81777653
This is not a hivemind you nerd
>>81777639
I couldn't care less. He's already proven that he's burned out as an artist. When someone fucks up their magnum opus, it's the final sign of doom.
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Am I the first one to notice this?

>Russian astronomer Nikolai Kozyrev believed the Sun (like all stars) is made out of pure compressed time
>the Green Sun is the center of Paradox Space
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>>81777670

hiveswap is the explanation

god, what a great idea
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>>81777661
>Homestuck peaked with [S] Cascade
eh, I feel descend was more compact, cascade was good, but the story was already full of troll exposition at that point, and it couldn't really recover completely act 6 or not.
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>>81777351
>Gamzee: HONK.

hehe
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>>81777386
It's fun but tedious. The fandom, which was the main reason for joining, has left it's glory days. There's a lot of conflict with little to no resolution.
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>>81777670
Probably had real life stuff that the internet doesn't need to know about to deal with.
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>>81777679
I was the only person I saw in these threads say a single bad thing about Collide, but you're right, different people etc.
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>>81777691
there you are big guy
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The main villain of the whole story only spoke once.
Thanks hussie
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>>81777673
Yes.
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>>81777697
>The fandom, which was the main reason for joining
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>>81777351
The (end of) the first line in Homestuck is "What will the name of this young man be?" and the last is "That's the best fucking question anybody's asked".
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>hussie can't draw anymore
>can't write anymore
>hemorrhaging money due to continuous outsourcing of projects
What's left for him?
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>>81777702
Well your opinion is still wrong.
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>>81777670
God, it really bugs me how much hiveswap production probably hurt homestuck.
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How much of the hiveswap money was spent on this animation?
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>>81777390
I think the symbolism of the door flipping around is that somehow Caliborn's session was scratched, so the kids did their shit in a universe which would have an Earth which wouldn't end up in as crappy of a state as Caliborn's.

I guess the Alpha kids went and scratched Caliborn's session at some point after the masterpiece then escaped.
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>>81777727
Suicide
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>>81777697
>The fandom, which was the main reason for joining
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>>81777737
Judging by it's quality, negative five dollars.
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It feels like we didn't 100% the game and we got the neutral ending.
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>>81777679
>It's almost like. Group of people have more than one opinion.
Not who you're replying to, but that unnecessary sentence break is fucking disgusting. I would expect that shit from Tumblr, not a quality establishment like /hst/.
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>>81777727

the sweet release of death
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>>81777722
Homestuck was convoluted and full of holes. Discussing it with you faggots kept it from being a total wreck. Without the fan content, homestuck would be pretty fuckin lackluster.
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>Implying this isn't just a leadup for the Homestuck movie
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>>81777754
oh shut up you contrarian weenie
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>>81777737
They don't really have any money for Hiveswap, so $0
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Homestuck was a mistake
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>>81777759
Suck my dick
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>>81777351
I'm happy with Dave and Dirk's story concluding there, but everyone else got shafted
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>>81777673
No
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>>81777397
That's the best fucking question anybody's asked.
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>>81777773
I'd say that people who liked that piece of shit are the contrarians
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>>81777777
Better than Act 7
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>>81777777
Slow day, eh
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>>81777754
the animation was pretty neat quality anon i don't know what are you talking
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>>81777673
Debatable.
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>>81777697
You're the reason the comic went to shit in the first place. I hope you feel bad about yourself and possibly contemplate suicide.
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>>81777758
HOMESTUCK EXPANSION PACK, GET THE TRUE GOOD OR PURE EVIL ENDING NOW FOR ONLY $19.99 MADE BY TOBY 'UNDERTALE' FOX™
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Calliope orchestrated the end of the universe with LE in it, such a fitting form of intervention for a muse and batonkind user. The kids completed the game and earned a happy life on earth. Vriska deployed the house juju that represents SBURB, symbolizing that LE was defeated by the kids finishing the game and entering a new universe where he can't follow, while simultaneously Caliborn destroyed his clock and tied his life to the game, and Calliope finally destroyed the green sun and the game. THE MAYOR AND PM GOT TOGETHER AND BUILT CAN-MOTHER-FUCKING-TOWN. Roxygen, Rosemary, Dirkjake, and JadeDaveKat are about as canon as it gets, while Jane got back her Dad.

There. this is the explanation i got by a person and I want it to be like this since is the only one that makes a slight sense
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>>81777697
>The fandom, which was the main reason for joining
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>81777397
Wait for the epilogue
See you guys in five months
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MLPG here

I'm so sorry

You guys were alright
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>>81777379
> Jade and Dave didn't want to go back to fuckin human times
Going back to an earth before the reckoning doesn't sound very healthy. Its destruction through SBURB mechanics is necessary to keep all that time bullshit stable.
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>>81777807
Radiation's a better musician, a better coder, and a better writer than Hussie.
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>>81777786
>Homestuckbeforeandafter.png
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>>81777351
Dave and Dirk's (expanded to include "That is the best question") are alright.

Aradia's is pretty cool. Meenah's works. Both Calliopes are fitting. And Davepeta and Jasprose get pretty good ones. Caliborn wins hands down, though.
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>>81777800
What does the animation's quality matter if the contents are shit beyond belief.
Cool, we got a pretty several minutes of a rainbow tadpole.
WHERE IS MY CONCLUSION TO THE INVINCIBLE TIME MONSTER STORYLINE.
It's like, yeah it's pretty but it doesn't matter. None of this matters anymore.
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>>81777821
fuck off
hold me
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>>81777758

That's because John didn't shit on the table.
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>>81777697
>The fandom, which was the main reason for joining
you are exactly the cancer that killed homestuck in the first place
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>>81777758
Man, it really does.
Did we miss a John's arm or something?
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>>81777777
nice
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>>81777697
>The fandom, which was the main reason for joining
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>>81777811
This is sort of what happened.

>>81777818
That was 5.5 years ago, I don't think he still has the same opinion.
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>>81777723
DEEPEST
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>>81777777
impressive. very nice.
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>>81777821
no.

no we weren't.
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>>81777784
It's like aliens stole the punctuation from this post and sent it back it time to make you look like a faggot.
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Guys, the REAL satisfying defeat of Lord English was the friends we made along the way.
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>>81777640
it is though
that's the thing
everything else was outlined in caliborn's masterpiece
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>>81777818
Just wait until Hussie's next work is 10 times as long and convoluted.
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You know, DD was a really shitty right hand man, not having a contingency plan and all.
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Anyone think this is just a goof and Hussie will post everything else later tonight? Like, PSYCH!

Anyway, if that is the ending, everyone fucking died. The whole earth thing was a vision in jades magic ball of bullshit and the white house would have taken everyone to the dead plains. Lord English would then kill the unsuspecting kids with his giant ray of unresolved plot lines and Hussie would ride the shit put of Gamzee until the end of Paradox Space.
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>>81772497
is this the only time we see vrisk with a chest?

>final update is an undertale battle with L.E
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>>81777827
bowman is better than both, he has left the tumblrverse and is doing great things beyond that of pop culture trivialities
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>>81777758
That's a great analogy.
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>>81777758
>To get the best ending we have to play again

buckle up faggots
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>>81777865
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>>81777896
HOME
STUCK
TWO
POINT
OH
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>>81777889
bowman is fucking dead
also his voices is annoying to me
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Hussie about canon
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>>81777872
but caliborn's masterpiece was just the beginning for him, he continued to fuck around in the multiverse through lil cal
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>>81777878
The animation was Caliborn's masterpiece, none of that actually happened.
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>>81777865
I didn't make any friends though
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>>81777758
honestly I was still waiting for some character to pop up and break the 4th wall one last time, either hussie, or some kinda ominous caliborn thing, something, someone, anything
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Well Ellie, I guess we really were the Homestuck
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>>81777653
The art was weird and the music was honestly underwhelming but it had fun and felt pretty much like "the final battle: part one", but then he skipped right over to "the end" with no real part two

>>81777670
>didn't draw anything from the hiatus onward
>didn't even write specifics for the pages leading up to the finale
>claimed to storyboard the last animation but judging by the Can Town bits he didn't specify much about what the actual characters were doing

>>81777754
The faces were a little weird but for one person in a year this was pretty great. Too much frog, but shit like LE/Caliborn and Can Town itself looked dope as hell.

>>81777811
>Roxygen
>canon
>she's literally holding hands with Calliope while John is next to her, handhold-less
When will you people read the fucking comic

>>81777821
Fuck off.
Fuck off.
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>>81777777
mother fucker i knew it would be in a general

it always is
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>>81777889
>he has left the tumblrverse and is doing great things beyond that of pop culture trivialities
Right, because Radiation isn't swimming in money.
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>>81777673
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>>81777912
i would've been happy if fucking sans popped out honestly
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>>81777878
>Last flash is Hussie riding through paradox space on Gamzee's fridge like a surfboard
>It's a game
>You have to dodge LE until you can escape into the world of Hussie's next project
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>>81777697
>everyone shitting on this post
>as if HSG wasn't one of the very, very few things keeping them tethered to this comic
You fags are capricious idiots.
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I wish I could be as angry as all of you are, but I can't really muster up the energy.

I just feel kinda empty. I didn't hate it, but it was so little...
I just wanted resolution. Not even that, I wanted a super final attack, people putting their hands together for a final giant laser cannon of friendship power, or something to that effect, so that they could pose as a team with the explosion of their enemy in the background.

Instead, all of the fighting is told through a style previously used 'jokingly' (Think of the very first Dave vs Bro rooftop battle)

The music was good, but it's didn't have HIGHS AND LOUD trumpets, the slow and poignant parts that precede the EXPLOSION of the chorus, or the hype that such a piece should inspire.

It just...happened.
And as I looked out of my window, the first lights of the new day lighting up my room, I realized it's really the end.

It's been so long, so many stages of my life, such a ride. I'd like to say that it ended abruptly, but it was more like it never did.

Like a speeding vehicle swallowed in the mist, never to be seen again.
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>>81777874
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>>81777653
Damn I just realized I said "gushing over how awful it was" instead of "gushing over how great it was".

That could easily cause confusion.
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>>81777365
Toby Fox is a hack
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>>81777924
first laugh ive had all day
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>>81777914
go to bed its late over there
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IT ISN'T OVER! THE KIDS STILL HAVE TO FIGHT LE WHEN THEY GET OUT OF THE JUJU!
ROSE CAN STILL PLAY THE RAIN!
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reposting:

Am I the only one who got the impression that at the very end, after the green blackhole was created, the whole fabric of reality finally came apart?
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>>81777912
I was expecting the snoop dog statue at some point to hit LE.
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>>81777673
Eh.
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>>81777673
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>>81777924
that stream was pretty good
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>>81777758
>mfw we find out this was easy mode
>mfw Homestuck 2.0 is medium
>mfw there will be a hardwood and a Dark Souls mode
>mfw it never ends, the ride NEVEr ends
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>>81777959
Dude, the comic's over.
I'm so sorry.
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DID THE DOOR LEAD TO THE MASTERPIECE BATTLE OR THE NEW UNIVERSE
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>>81777929
I would not be upset at all if that was the case
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>>81777944
Not as much as Andrew "People do not have Arcs" Hussie
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im n0t 0kay with this
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>>81777924
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Ladies and gentlemen, it was an honor riding with you all these years.

Never forget Commustuck, Metastuck, Mafia, that time Andrew said hi and thanks for not being the weird ones, and all the other nonsense.

Through highs and lows, we were shit, but we were still the least shit of the bunch. Here's to you all. I'll see you in hell.
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WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T ROSE PLAY THE RAIN?!?

HUSSIE YOU HACK
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>Roxy gave the ring she wanted to give to the person she'd marry to fucking CALLIOPE

I'm FURIOUS
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We still have until midnight tonight for the psyche out to happen, so I can't give up hope, not like this.
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>>81777914
>roxygen
I just literally copypasted the thing. Didn't even bothered to correct it but you're right.
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reminder

been a while
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Where did it come from?
Was it the necessary element for cherubs to exist in a given universe? (trolls didn't include theirs in their Genesis Frog and there were no mentions of cherubs in human universe plus the frog has rainbow eyes and cherubs have natural connection to the rainbow eternity powers)

Also:
How did Black Queen's lifespan get connected to the one of the whole universe frog?
Why destroying Green Sun made English lose his connections to the rainbow majyyks since he got them by smashing his personal death judge clock?
Who turned the frog switch?
What about the Cairo Overcoat? (Hussie even pointed out in the blog post he did when Cascade hit that we should notice that the inside of the coat showed the panels of the comic.)

And more. There are so many things left... Never in my entire life I've been so disappointed in a work of fiction.

I mean he's the man who did Problem Sleuth, a comic about a fucking detective that is stuck in hiss office and yet half of it is a epic boss fight. Remember the whole fan and cord thing that was key element in defeating MK? Or the Temporal Pickle Inspectors. That was the shit. He's the man who wrote the whole Green Sun destroying/creating. A marvelous plot element with lies of omission. He wrote the "invincible demon entering our session" with plot twist of it being Bec Noir. The whole sequence of BN getting to Troll universe. The fucking [S]Enter with the scenes showing that in future there will be WV's station where Rose's home was. This final stretch wasn't created by Hussie, the MSPA author. I don't know who wrote it but it is impossible it was him. Impossible.

Fuck I'm sad.
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>>81777972
The comic may be over. But the story isn't
wonk

*wink
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>>81778005
>2016
>still caring about the shitty pointless planetary questlines
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>>81778016
hahahahaha who is this from
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>>81777825
>reckoning
it is before the reckoning already
it's Roxy and Dirk's earth
i mean reverse it until Jane and Jakes time instead of like 10 years prior to Roxy and Dirk
get ride of the carpacians and let humans run earth again
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maybe the real homestuck ending was the shitposting along the way :)
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act 6 was a mistake; comic should have ended at cascade with some modifications to ensure crucial plot points aren't entirely out of reach (LE kept more as some sort of looming threat in the background and part of Sburb's cycle than something that could actually be confronted by the hero) and ensure the comic isn't a fucking joke (Kanaya stays dead instead of randomly being resurrected); it would have still been an ending that left the characters' fates open, but at least it would have actually resolved plot threads
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>>81777777
witnessed
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I need Roxy to steal the void from my heart
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>>81777944
There is nothing new under the sun. This image impacts Undertale's quality in no way at all.
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>>81777957
It's 6:45 AM over here and I've been ranting non-stop since the update dropped at 9 PM, I conceded that I wouldn't be sleeping tonight around 2 AM but I appreciate the concern

>>81778006
And yet people are still trying to challenge how canon they are, like fools

>>81778014
Oh, right, the "you people" was poor phrasing, your friend needs to read the comic though
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Do you know when things begin to decline?

When because of lazyness stuff began being upload as videos in youtube instead of doing god work with the layout of the website.

Look at how this: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/GAMEOVER/

Which is a post-alpha kids animation is a trillion times better both Collide and ACT7 together.

It's unbeliavable.
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Reckon Hussie regrets starting his lord english tattoo combo now that his comic has unltimately flopped?
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Will Roxy be able to handle Calliope's giant energy snake?
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>>81778016
and yet it's still not really tell if that's suposed to be ironic or sincere anger. it frightens me that some people can be some people can be so emotionally stunted that bad quips and nonsensical rhetoric are the only mean they have for communication. It must be like living in a box with a gloryhole as your only window to the outside world, and try as you might to ask for help all anyone ever seems to get out of it is that you want to suck more dick. what a life.
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>>81778068
>When because of lazyness stuff began being upload as videos in youtube instead of doing god work with the layout of the website.
That wasn't laziness you imbecile that was "Let's not crash the website AGAIN, ok".

Game Over was pretty shit though, because it was all retconned
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How does Hussie expect the average reader to understand that Gamzee went through the black hole to Caliborn?
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So the kids go into their new universe, live whatever dumb life they can, the trolls and Dad die of old age because not gods, john and his friends finally decide to go take on Caliborn, sealed away and then summoned to defeat LE in the present time. Right?
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HEY EVERYONE

Now that /hsg/ is over (or will shortly be), I seriously hope that the remnants or former members won't shit up other fandoms' threads. Keep it orderly, please? Thank you.
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>>81778076
I honestly wondering what hussie response will be over this feedback
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>>81778047
>(LE kept more as some sort of looming threat in the background and part of Sburb's cycle than something that could actually be confronted by the hero)

That's literally what happened though. They never confronted him directly cause they knew they couldn't win. No comment on the rest, that's up to preference.
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>>81778088
I guess?
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>>81778103
He will never respond to it
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The only cure for this disappointment was going back and reading Problem Sleuth's ending again
God damn that was so fucking good, why dont we talk about that for a moment?
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>>81778085

Either they get it, they figure it out, or that sucks for them. It's pretty clear with context, especially for future archive readers who won't have forever to wait between those pages.
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>>81778100
I think we're all too tired
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>>81778076
No
He pulled off the biggest scam ever by bullshiting a story bigger than some of the largest stories in the English language. I would be proud too.
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Who /the5stagesofgrief/ here?
Although I still haven't been happy or accepted it
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>>81778088
No, LE's just stuck in the Black Hole, made from the Green Sun.
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>>81777931
I loved the comic for the comic you tool. 4chan conversations about it were sprinkles on top, nothing more.

[Spoiler]I'm going to miss you fags after the epilogue threads though. ;_;7
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>>81778100
too late i'm gonna take a big smelly dump over /sug/
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>>81778068
what the fuck is this dragon ball furry final fantasy crossover
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>>81778134
Anon, take my advice. Be happy it's over. You're free.
Live.
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>>81778125

I don't want to elevate my mangrit to unbearable levels again, anon.

Twice or thrice was enough in my life for me to get buffed to the maximum.
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Imagine if the final panel had been an incredibly long vertical image, starting with Skaia, then prospit and derse, then the kids' planets, then alternia, the trolls...a collection of all the 'Skies' the game has seen, blending into eachother between each 'change', until you reach the end of the image.

It's a grassy field, nightime, every character is lying down or sitting on the grass, looking up.
At every sky that ever existed.

And just under that
The End
Thanks for Playing
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>>81778125
Goddamn, I'm so glad I'm not disappointed by the ending. You all look like you're in a lot of pain over this. But you're right. Problem Sleuth is better.
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This was the panel. This was the one when you started to see the bigger picture. Take a look at that filename for a second. How long ago was that?

A shame.

A damn shame.
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>>81778068
I thought that he was just letting shitty artists contribute because he wanted to rush and get to the ending, turns out he just wanted to rush and get to the end.

>>81778079
Yes, and it'll be hot as hell.

>>81778100
There's nothing good to move onto anyway. This comic was all we had left and it just imploded and we're all husks.
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>>81778100

There's no other thread worth shitting up.
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>>81778100
That sounds like a challenge but nah, fuck it.
This vessel is fucking empty.
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>>81778100
will be over? idts you can technically post whatever the fuck you want here as long as it's hs themed
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>>81778169
You kidding? The one where you started to see the bigger picture was a flash and it's called WV: Ascend.
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So were the trolls not there to fight Caliborn because they fucking died?
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>>81778166
wouldn't have made it any better
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>>81778169
>This was the panel. This was the one when you started to see the bigger picture.
Try WV: Ascend
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>>81777811

BUT HE CAN FUCKING FOLLOW THEM BECAUSE HE CAN STILL SUMMON HIS CAIRO OVERCOAT AND HE CAN STILL TRAVEL THROUGH PARADOX SPACE BECAUSE PARADOX SPACE TOUCHES ALL UNIVERSES INCLUDING THE NEW ONE

THE PLAYERS DID NOTHING AT ALL

NOTHING AT ALL
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REMEMBER STITCHES' DOLL?
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>>81778084
I don't think making Collide in flash would have been particularly feasible. Cascade was already a bitch and three quarters, apparently, and had to be hacked into chunks to work at all.
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>>81778125
Imagine if Problem Sleuth ending arc entirely skipped the ENTIRE DMK fight and instead focused on Godhead P.I.'s sewing skills.

That's what Homestuck's fucking ending was like.
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>>81778181
>>81778192
that goes without saying, I meant the bigger picture beyond sburb, don't be dweebs. although admittedly you could put the pieces together in the intermission at the earliest
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>>81778100
/hsg/ am will become /mlp/
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>>81778169
>This was the panel. This was the one when you started to see the bigger picture.
Wasn't that like mid act 5

The "full scope" of things was seen at end of act 2 .
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>>81778187
Not him, but it would have given us at least something to dwell on.

Another thing I was disappointed in not seeing was a final page consisting of a wallpaper-sized image containing every single character.

You just know every single reader would have had that as their wallpaper for months.
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aspect doodle anon are you gonna post it here? or like /i/ or /aco/
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>>81778060
They are delusional. I'd be upset too if my ship didn't sail. Luckily though, I'm not in that boat. wew lads
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>>81778138
so when do the kids even get put into the juju?
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>>81778217
is mlp still going?
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>>81778175

On one hand, I hate it because it's just making an excuse to maintain all ships and headcanons.

On the other hand, he's right. The ending did it right. I'd have liked to actually see LE defeated, sure. But we got everything we needed and if there were any more people, would still find things to bitch about.
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I think it would have worked better if Collide, the 6 updates, and the end were one final video.

I think part of what killed it for me was that I was saving up all my hype for the final flash/video and by then all the interesting things had already happened and all that was left was to show them entering the new world.

So then I get super hype and watch the end and it's just like "meh".
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Once more

With feeling

When I say Shai, you say
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>>81778193
That was BEFORE someone would use a juju to create a new universe. I don't think he can interact with this one.
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>>81778214
>you could put the pieces together in the intermission at the earliest
Not really. The intermission was written with the intention of killing off Lord English in the end, but Hussie ended it earlier than he'd expected.
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>>81777865

I DON'T KNOW WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE BUT I KNOW THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE

YOU'RE LIKE STEPHEN KING. WHEN I READ THE ENDING TO THE DARK TOWER, IT WAS LITERALLY

>LOL HE ENTERED THE TOWER SHOUTING PEOPLE'S NAMES

AND THEN HE HAS THE AUDACITY TO BERATE YOU FOR WANTING A SATISFYING CONCLUSION AND WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT AND INTERESTING INSIDE. FUCKING BELITTLING YOU FOR HAVING CURIOSITY AND SPOUTING SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT HOW
>THE JOURNEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE DESTINATION

WELL GUESS WHAT?!

YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG AND EVERYONE WHO THINKS LIKE THAT IS WRONG! THE POINT OF A JOURNEY IS TO GET TO A DESTINATION YOU WANTED BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULDN'T UNDERTAKE THE JOURNEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!

IF I FOLLOWED THAT LOGIC THEN MY GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE DIED MUCH EARLIER BECAUSE I WOULD'VE GONE FOR HIS INSULIN BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING TO THE PHARMACY, I WOULD'VE MET INTERESTING PEOPLE, AND HAD TEENAGE DRAMA PROBLEMS AND MAYBE GOT INTO A FIGHT, AND NEVER MADE IT TO MY DESTINATION, AND COME BACK A WISER MAN.

BUT GUESS WHAT?!

MY FUCKING GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE BEEN STILL DEAD BECAUSE I NEVER MADE IT TO MY FUCKING DESTINATION!

SO YES, I AM COMPARING THIS SHIT TO MY GRANDFATHER DYING BECAUSE IT'S METAPHORICALLY THE SAME THING. AND YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT IF YOU SUPPORT THIS.

The only thing. THE ONLY FUCKING THING that makes this all better is that I only joined the bandwagon a month ago. If I had invested more time in this, I would've felt bad. Now, NOW I can just go on with my life. But I feel so bad for other people, who ARE actually invested in this.

SON OF A MOTHERFUCKING FUCK I AM STILL FURIOUS!
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>>81778247
'Hulud.
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>>81778238
The show is. I'm pretty sure ratings are dropping, but Hasbro's still making bank.
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>>81778192
Not even close.
>>81778169
This anon gets it.
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>>81777663
Who is Joey?
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>>81778247

*wwalks into thread*
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>>81778275
>Not even close
I wish the newshits would leave.
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>>81778258
in relation to sburb you see karkat at the end and if you are astute (I wasn't at the time) you can see all of the signs. LE would become very relevant
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Most disappointing ending to anything, ever. Not only was the last arc small as shit to the point it really doesn't count as an arc (lmao 7 years 7 pages 7 arcs ebin XD), but there are so many unresolved points it's staggering. Instead of properly finishing the story he decided to say "fuck it" and drop it.
And despite his pretending he's hard at work, there was almost no text in the post-hiatus parts and the animations and soundtracks weren't even made by him in the end. The long one was also dogshit.

The good news is, I will no longer have to suffer that shit ever again. HS is finally over for good. Epilogue? Fuck that shit I don't even care anymore.
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>>81778271
Actually, the rates keep going up every year, it's the only Hasbro thing in the girls department that is doing good
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Hey thread what where your classpects (if you cared about that stuff)

I was usually a Seer of Doom
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John found his dad again, and a maturity that truly makes him a man- a fact realized even through his father, who recognizes him as a full grown adult.

Dave found the courage to be a hero, in spite of his fear of his brother, cutting straight through him to do the right thing.

Rose found love- romantic and maternal- and with it the strength to forgive herself for previously eschewing it.

Jade got punched.
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>>81778262

But The Dark Tower's ending was literally a perfect conclusion to the story.
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>>81778262
He mad.
But he has a good reason to be
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I have nothing to live for now
HS ended and it ruined the characters
Imma just kill myself
anyone want a livestream link?
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>>81778286
nobody is disputing how good the early flashes were in terms of worldbuilding, but in the whole fucking comic that's all in the first 20% or so, it is integral to sburb, yes, but we all know sburb hasn't actually been hussie's focus for years now.
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>>81778301
I was a Prince of Void but it doesn't matter anymore.
Now i'm just Void.
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So I guess

In the end

Homosuck really was shit
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>>81778301
it was bard of doom :^]

but i dont feel very bardish these days
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>>81778289
There could be no signs of LE being relevant because LE was not intended to be relevant. He was a one-off throwaway villain, just like the rest of the Felt.
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>>81778184
Yep. Even the god tiers you thought were more or less safe were just fucking obliterated, so all of the trolls are dead in the next few hundred years while all the kids live on forever. Pour one out for Karkat in probably the next 30 years given hemospectrum-based lifespans assuming he counts as below Aradia instead of above Feferi. Or, if he's analogous to lime... 90-120, probably?

>>81778232
Poor souls. Having to deal with this whole update and Roxy isn't even hypothetically macking on the person of their choosing.
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>>81777697
>THE MAIN REASON FOR JOINING

It's people like you.
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>my adolescence is completely over
>all my friends from high school have moved away and are getting married and having children
>the thing i spent so much of it dedicated to was a big fat flop
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The only thing that gives me more cancer than the ending is the retarded comments on the video of underage b8 sucking Hussie's cock for no good reason.

Some of which are trying to imply he animated it.
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>>81778301
I was one of the Mind guys, I don't remember what class I was.
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>>81778328
the point being hussie's direction did change, as you said. but when you realize that slick isn't dead, and the intermission is very much bleeding into doc scratch's story it becomes the focus. between the intermission and act 5 there is some set-up.
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>>81778328
>He was a one-off throwaway villain, just like the rest of the Felt.
So the Intermission didn't originally have any purpose in the story?
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>>81778281
... w-what
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>>81778175

one of the top dumb things to say about a story

you can just write a fanfic if you don't like it, or imagine some other ending.
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>>81778356
it didn't. midnight crew were originally created for some guy on the donation page, and hussie decided to take a break from the HS narrative to get some PS styled shenanigans. he then realized he could merge the two via exile story, and the rest sort of happened
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>>81778356
The Intermissions original purpose was to characterize Jack
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>>81778100
OK first of all
Bitch, did any of that happen the many times Homestuck wasn't "allowed" to have threads during these hiatuses? What the fuck are you even on about?

Fandoms are not goddamn islands and countries, stop acting like people fuckin immigrate over to other shit. People are multi-faceted and like whatever the fuck they like and post about it at any given time. Tabbed web browsing has existed for damn near more than a decade, posting in threads isn't a commitment, I can post here and post in a thread about whatever the fuck else, freely, and it has absolutely zero effect on anything

tl;dr fuck off and yes I'm mad
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>>81778346
Oh no Hussie hasn't made shit in Homestuck in a while (though he apparently storyboarded the last flash), but narratively it was a lot better than people seem to think.

>>81778356
Yea. It was literally supposed to be an intermission, and the only reason Slick didn't kill LE at the end comically was someone pointed out "Lord English" was similar in name to "Lord British".
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>>81777697
>which was the main reason for joining
Please die a painful death.
I joined because i liked the first part of the comic. That was until middle Act 6 but I still continued to read hoping that hussie will reedeem himself and then we have this shitty final open to conclusions and the only thing that can be sorted out is that LE is actually stuck in the game because of juju's shit
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>>81778301
heir of mind
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>>81778379
Epilogue confirmed in the update text.
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>>81778301
Rogue of Time
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It's really over, isn't it?

I mean this shit is just starting to sink in.

Fuck.
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>>81778379
There's still the epilogue. Fucking hell the fake caliborn ending theory better be true
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>>81778251

WHY THE FUCK NOT. IF THE UNIVERSE TOUCHES PARADOX SPACE (IT DOES) HE CAN TELEPORT TO IT VIA OVERCOAT.
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>>81778382

Basically anyone who doubts Hussie's ability to turn stupid shenanigans into major plot points needs to read Problem Sleuth and remember that every command there was actually input by a reader and it still weaves perfectly start to finish.
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>>81778386
What was Homestuck going to end like before LE took over. Just making a new universe successfully?
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>>81778311
Just upload Webm containing highlights when you're done.
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>>81778356
It was a stopgap thing, I'm not exactly sure for what. Either for some server thing or the making of that walkaround. The idea was for it to be this fun side thing that also happened to show off the fact that there are multiple universes with SBURB sessions.
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>>81778240
>On the other hand, he's right.
kill yourself
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WHO'S READY FOR WLF'S BIG ANNOUNCEMENT?
>mfw it's another t-shirt contest
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>>81777827
Shame I cant tell him that because he made his tumblr private or something.
I wanna send a message saying playing undertale saved me from suicide I was gonna commit after Homestucks atrocius "ending"
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>>81778402
i have poisoned myself
kiss me wouter, lets end this
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>>81778262
Your argument falls flat when you realize the significance of the destination is only heightened by the journey.
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What if the real ending was posted in a hidden page that we can only access by going through some sort of ARG thing that no one has noticed yet
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>>81778405
1. He doesn't have the overcoat.
2. The juju killed him.
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If you think it's really over you are an idiot. John's hand never touched the door. There was no EOA7. That flat "The end" should be the biggest tell. The credits didn't even fucking roll.
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>>81778402
There might an epilogue, to fill in the gaps.

But yeah now we know how the story ends.
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>>81778408
And defeating Jack.
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>>81778301

Sylph of Void.

Even though I'm a man, go figure.
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>>81778405
But that didn't required interacting with jujus. This time the universe was created using the one juju LE used to became the thing he is right now
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Honestly Act 7 could have taken place immediately after Cascade and i would have felt more fulfilled. Act 6 was a fucking train-wreck
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>>81778408
There was going to be an antagonist (possibly still Jack). Hussie said a few years ago (so, not actually that long ago, narratively) that the end of Homestuck hadn't changed much since the beginning of the comic.

The rKids were planned since before the start of the comic, too.
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>>81778386
>but narratively it was a lot better than people seem to think.

Narratively all it did was "here's the cherubs making the black holes, you figure this shit out".
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>>81778301
Seer of Time.

Looking at clocks is my job.
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The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel
And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
And a dark wind blows

The government is corrupt
And we're on so many drugs
With the radio on and the curtains drawn

We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine
And the machine is bleeding to death

The sun has fallen down
And the billboards are all leering
And the flags are all dead
At the top of their poles

It went like this:
The buildings toppled in on themselves
Mothers clutching babies
Picked through the rubble
And pulled out their hair

The skyline was beautiful on fire
All twisted metal stretching upwards
Everything washed in a thin orange haze

I said: "Kiss me, you're beautiful - these are truly the last days."

You grabbed my hand and we fell into it
Like a daydream or a fever

We woke up one morning and fell a little further down
For sure it's the valley of death

I open up my wallet
And it's full of blood
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>>81778404
What is this theory?
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>>81778240
>On the other hand he's right
THis is motherfucking Hussie. Did you even see the shit he's been pulling for years with crazy twists and his ability to conclude shit? Did you even READ Problem Sleuth?
If he really tried he could a wrapped everything up over the next couple of months.
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>>81778307

YES, THE FULL ENDING, NOT THE COPOUT
>HURR I GET TO THE TOWER, I'M HAPPY THE END

THAT IS A BULLSHIT ENDING JUST LIKE THIS WAS A BULLSHIT ENDING TO THIS COMIC
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>>81778451
Yea, which is a lot more than "LITERALLY NOTHING" people keep shouting about.

LE was defeated in the intended way, and this is 99% shown.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cht80JzvC_g&nohtml5=False
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>>81777865
Im too late for that. Joined just before gigapause, stopped and came back when I heard the end was coming. Now im just left with autism and depression
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what the FUCK BLOOD DOES?
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>>81778426
That doesn't nullify the destination though. If anything, it means the destination becomes much more important and almost required
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>>81778301
Waste of Piss
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>>81778430
I remember posts like yours. Only they were made by people talking about Metal Gear Solid V.
There's going to be an epilogue, but it won't cause any massive changes or twists to anything.
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>>81778430
>The credits didn't even fucking roll.
credits page

then again, gaydeer did only stop by to say enjoy and then left. maybe she left so she didn't leak something. hmmm
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>>81778436
>And defeating Jack.
>Jack used to be the main antagonist of Homestuck
Things have changed so much.
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>>81778425
ew no, i'm desperate but not that desperate

>>81778432
I know, I got up early to witness it live but I guess it didn't really sink in until now....
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Just watched the ending and it fucking sucked.

So many loose ties, so many questions that will forever remain unaswered.

It's like Homestuck was cancelled and everything had to be wrapped up in one fucking episode.

Hussie, I don't care about the comic anymore. Just write everything down how it goes down for real and then stay out of the webcomic business for good. You lost you style, you got too jaded, and you know it!
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>>81778459
The Act 7 animation is Caliborn's PURE ART SKILL manifested and is entirely a work of fiction
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How is Collide so amazing at nailing everything people wanted and needed and didn't expect from it, yet this is just 9 minutes of gradually building dread and regret?

Was this intentionally to restore our hope just so he could break it?

This feels like something from an abusive relationship.
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Jesus fuck. Now I feel like shit for making cuck jokes to Karkat and (Vriska).
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>>81778451

All the pieces are there. If you've been paying attention, most of the gaps people are complaining about aren't gaps at all. Did you really expect anything more than an anti-climax to top this all off?
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>>81778477
Blood is the power of blueballing
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>>81778301
was there some kind of "official" determiner for that, like a horoscope thing, or was it just arbitrary preference? I remember in 2011 or something I made a needly convoluted set of my own trolls using obsolete heavenly bodies and their own set of aspects. I must have deleted all that shit a computer and a half a go but now I kinda wish I still had it.
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>>81778384
bc jack ended up being so relevant to the plot

all he did was fly in, be an antagonist that no-one was really rooting against, and die to get *another* irrelevant jack killed. not even on purpose either
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>>81778469
>LE was defeated in the intended way, and this is 99% shown.
Can you explain what happened to an idiot like me please
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>>81778459
The animation isn't the actual ending, it's the anime masterpiece Caliborn has been working on for most of act 6.
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>>81777349
really it never was
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>>81778459
Homestuck becoming an anime is Caliborn's doing, whose art has been becoming more and more anime like.
Then John turns up and fixes everything somehow, or something.
(Nothing like that is actually going to happen.)
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>>81778428

1) HE DOES HAVE THE OVERCOAT BECAUSE HE CAN SUMMON IT

2) NEVER SHOWN THEREFORE DIDN'T HAPPEN

YOU'RE A FAGGOT FOR BUYING INTO THIS SHIT
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>>81778501
Collide was mediocre though
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>>81778501
>implying collide wasn't a major let down as well

Use your brain, anon. This shit has been a long time coming
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>>81778489

Highest point for me in the comic is definitely Karkat apologizing for bringing Jack to the kids session(giving the frog cancer), and thus fulfilling his handle of carcinoGeneticist
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>>81778459
That the ending is just a big psyche made by caliborn who mastered his anime skill and created the animestuck that we witnessed.
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>>81777777
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>>81778301
ruf1oh
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>>81778477
we will NEVER know
just like we don't know what happened to Fedora Freak, the god tier Piss man
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>>81778518
She used the Juju, and he died
The end
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>>81778514
He was originally the main antagonist
Act 6 killed his character so badly
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>>81778527
Green sun is gone, he can't summon it anymore.
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>>81778518
Muse Calliope made a Black Hole out of the Green Sun, and other spacey shit to confine LE in the universe/area/etc he was in.
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I think we all just wanted to see the fight. you could leave the result of the fight ambiguous, and still keep caliborn's masterpiece as the one depiction of that fight, but the LE fight was pivotal.
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>>81777896
what if we have to read the whole comic again to get the true ending? like some cookies or somthing unlocks it?
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>>81777387
He was a little shit, but he was an entertaining little shit.
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>>81777872
yes but that already happened, it's a loop, you dongus
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>>81778499
homestuck went full firefly
>>81778500
it branches off the 2x caliborn theory
which was mostly disproven ish?
that the art caliborn and the LE caliborn are 2 universe versions
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>>81778501
>nailing everything people wanted and needed
No one wanted karkat being a fucking joke anon
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>>81778514
Jack used to be important.
>>
I THINK
THAT HOMESTUCK 2
WILL BE AS MUCH HOMESTUCK 2
AS FAR CRY 4 IS SKYRIM WITH GUNS
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>>81778529
>>81778532
Collide was fun. It has good music, fanservicey fights, characters died and things happened. It was everything homestuck had been missing at that point in light of the last 2 years or w/e of beta kids shipping.
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>>81778501
>How is Collide so amazing
Collied was okay

>>81778541
>Fedora Freak
Like who the fuck was that huss
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>>81777413
>413
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>>81778467

But
>HURR I GET TO THE TOWER, I'M HAPPY THE END
is never the end. I don't understand your point.

Are you sure your grandfather died? It seems like you might have left the service early, just before he popped back up and shouted "Surprise, motherfuckers!"
>>
Why again was Calliope important?
So much that the brought her back to life and even Vriska made a point of it to keeping her alive?
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>>81778469
The "LITERALLY NOTHING" is about the fact nothing on screen was shown for it, you had to have been keeping up with it all to know exactly what went down.

Which I'm sure some jackasses would call spoonfeeding but anyone who would've complained if they added more for the people in the back is a faggot.
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>>81778356
The entire story had no fucking purpose apparently
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>>81778469
>a lot more than "LITERALLY NOTHING"
But it raised more questions than doing nothing. What is the black hole for, eating the sessions? or the dream bubbles? A scratch? Why is there no visual sign of it affecting LE? Etc.
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>>81778501
>How is Collide so amazing at nailing everything people wanted and needed and didn't expect from it, yet this is just 9 minutes of gradually building dread and regret?
>Was this intentionally to restore our hope just so he could break it?
>This feels like something from an abusive relationship.
Really because I felt the exact opposite.

Collide was dog poop and I was very upset at how awful it was, especially considering it was 19 minutes.

Act 7 wasn't Descend 3: With Passion, but it was sure as shit better than Collide.
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>>81778427
rev up those passwords, boys!
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>>81778514
What the fuck WAS the point of LE Jack and SS showing up?
Condensese coulda just blown up Prospit and Derse, and SS did all of Jack shit
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I feel like I just went through a really bad breakup.
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>>81778594
She made a black hole out of the green sun
I don't know why, but she did
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>>81778500
God, I want to believe. I found it really odd that the second to last frame in the very last flash was Caliborn gaining his powers and immortality with a reference to "PURE ART SKILL" instead of the scene with English getting trapped. I mean, as a matter of storytelling, that's just bizarre.

>>81778594
She's cute and Roxy loves her.

Also she helped make the Matriorb.
>>
How old is little johnkarkat
Do you think his mommy regret
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>>81778602
The entire story was about a couple of kids playing a game that creates a universe. That just happened.
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>>81777777
Fuck this entire board
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>>81778346
I think that only people who were satisfied with this shit were bandwagoners who were only in it for the shipping and didn't read a single page of the comic, thus they probably had no fucking idea what was going on anyway.
>>
>>81778616
Welcome to the retcon and YOU DON'T NEED HIM
>>
Still waiting for my drawing of Roxy eating herself out.

You know who you are
>>
>>81778577
I said it before and ill say it again
this was easy mode
Homestuck 2.0 will have the same OG 4 kids
but it'll be hard mode
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>>81778598
>The "LITERALLY NOTHING" is about the fact nothing on screen was shown for it, you had to have been keeping up with it all to know exactly what went down.
>You actually have to have read the story to understand the ending
How awful

Spoonfeeding is a bad meme, though.

>>81778605
>What is the black hole for, eating the sessions?
Green Sun was LE's power source, and it was turned against him.

STILL love that reference from the song
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>>81777777
Excellent.
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>>81778344
That had me dying and I have no idea why
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>>81778632
That would be if there were no bumps in the road
Like, i don't know, an immortal skeleton guy hellbent on destroying everything
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>>81778627
Either to destroy LE's power source, or even the realm within which he exists.
But anon meant the other Calliope.
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>>81778301
I feel like I'd be a Seer of Space. I'm the advisor and strategist of my friends.
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>>81778645
i'm literally sitting here listening to pinkerton on the verge of tears

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUm5-1x1LfA
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>>81778628
Honestly it would have been kind of neat if the story ended with Caliborn getting his powers as long as we saw LE die right before.
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>>81778631
She probably started just calling him "John" a long time ago.
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>>81777327
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>>81778407
That was the old Hussie
Now he's no more than a hack
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The worst part is how great it was. Sire there's lots of other great webcomics, stories in general, but nothing like Homestuck. It was so marvelous and felt like something new, and yet it's ending leaves worse than a bitter taste in my mouth. It's like I was served the tastiest meal I'll ever have, and the dessert completely wiped my pallette clean. The flavor was ruined before I could truly savor it. I was rereading through the comic, didn't make it to the recent updates before the end. Nos I'm not sure if I wanna even finish.
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>>81778703
Or maybe Hussie is just Hussie, but he bit off more than he could chew with Homestuck.
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>>81777959
Rose did play the rain.

It was just a different Rose from a different timeline.

And the kids in the juju were also from a different timeline.

See, everything is resolved.
>>
>PS ending
>half the fucking comic in a large drawn-out fight scene

>HS ending
>two flashes

MSPA Reader: you know what to do
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>>81778548
Green sun wasn't the source of his immortality
There was no source of his immortality
It was the opposite, you are mortal as long as your clock is functional
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>>81778683
what will we call our adopted children
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>>81778407
>every command there was actually input by a reader
wrong
hussie took over the story pretty heavily by the end out of necessity. he even experimented with it early in the story. the panel where problem sleuth wraps himself in tape like a mummy and the narrator says "wow, what a fucking waste of time!" was a command hussie put in to see if he could slip it by without anyone noticing, and he was successful
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>>81778612
H4CK
D1SS4PO1NTM3NT
NOTH1NG
SU1C1D3
Any luck?
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>>81778621
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>>81778301
Mage of Time. I'm pretty pissed knowing we still don't know what the fuck mages do beyond having personally important knowledge of their aspect.
>>
>people thinking that if they haphazardly connect loose ends they can justify this ending

no, just... no
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>>81778736
>two flashes
Twenty-six minutes total. That really isn't something to complain about.
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>>81778407
yeah and then he started homestuck on the same premise and chose to ditch it because it was too much to handle. Hussie had been on the downward slope for a long while. it was just that the promise of a resolution to the loose ends was there to keep you distracted from it.
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>>81778544
He didn't though
did we watch the same flash
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>>81778463

To be fair, when he was making Problem Sleuth, that's all he was doing.

Right now he's sitting on top of a god damn media empire that got too big too fast, trying to manage a horrible video game's in-house production with a fraction of its funding because too many people threw money at it and then he got swindled and he has to make sure it's not complete garbage. He's got a bit more on his plate. It's not an excuse, but it is worth nothing.

And also the ending is fine.
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>>81778736
They didn't even pose as a goddamn team.

>>81778754
>adopted

Don't discard mpregnancy so quickly, lapis.
Eridan and Eridan 2
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>>81778751
I was talking about the overcoat.
>>
What were the things that you were looking forward to the most in the ending that the just didn't happen?

for me, explanation on the classpects
>>
Does anyone have an updated chart of the homestuck pages per pixel?
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>>81778621
>Nothing! I wrote nothing!
lost it
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>>81778778
It is. 2 hours of watching paint dry is worse than a complex 5 lines description of what's happening.
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>>81778477
Doesn't matter anymore
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>>81778788
No it isn't.
Fuck off Vriska
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>>81778729
the whole retcon was just to save vriska, but it hurt this story more than anything ever could have
no retcon and this would have been amazing
plus, the retcon didn't save NEpeta and Equius, argubly the best trolls
I WANTED EQUIUS TO ONE PAWNCH LE
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>>81778795
resolution on the majority of plot points
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>>81778791
They posed as three teams in the updates just before Collide.
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When you make a point that the multiple worlds theory is true, and every quantum state exists, thus every outcome of sburb tailored to your context is feasible in different timelines...

ITS PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA TO LEAVE THE END OF THE FUCKING COMIC HINGING ON THE 'OOOHHH I WONDER HOW IT ENDS' AMBIGUITY NONSENSE
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>>81778666
>How awful

You're right Satan, how dare anyone want to see any extra effort after these fucks have collected so much money from this fandom.
>>
reposting from shittygifsanon

>What about the felt? Are they all dead?

>Where are all the fucking Sprites? Are they Dead? Do they not get to come to the new world?

>GCATavros

>When did the 8 kids and no trolls go to fight kid caliborn

>After John got retcon powers, Jade never moved the planet for the Calis to grow up on

>Gamzee

>What the fuck happened to living vriska and/or the rest of the dead trolls

>Jane never reunited with her dad

>John never reunited with Casey

>John and Dave didn’t have a single fucking fight together

>We never saw all 4 of the original kids in a single fight together

>Rose never actually had a fucking arc that wasnt just being bullied by vriska to not become an alcoholic

>Literally what was the point of all the Dave/Jake foreshadowing of beating English?

>Literally what was the fucking point of the Beforus trolls? Why was any of the retcon shit needed? The retcon shit that fucks up the actual timeline and would actually be relevant to beating LE?

>The current timeline is a fucking infinite paradox loop where caliborn always lives, wins, becomes LE, and fucks up the other sessions

YOU CANT HAVE A FUCKING EPILOGUE IF THERE WASN’T A FUCKING CONCLUSION

I”M NOT FUCKING DONE

>Where are Vriska, Terezi, Aradia, and Sollux in the new universe?

>Wheres the Matriorb? Are the trolls being remade?

>Wheres Zillywave or Sawtooth?

>WHEN THE FUCK DID THE MASTERPIECE FIGHT HAPPEN
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https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=6uxJU2pT5FU&video_referrer=watch

YOU (YOU) THINK THE ABOVE GRAPHIC LOOKS FAMILIAR. YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THIS GREAT DRAWING BEFORE, IN A DIFFERENT CONTEXT. YOU SEE. THIS IS WHAT MASTER STORY TELLERS REFER TO AS A "VISUAL CALLBACK". TRULY EXCEPTIONAL PROFESSIONALS OFTEN WILL TAKE AN OLD DRAWING THEY DID. THAT SHOWS A SIMILAR SITUATION. AND DO A COUPLE OF HALF ASSED THINGS. LIKE CHANGE THE COLORS. TO MAKE IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

YOU (STILL YOU) OBSERVE THAT THIS INGENIOUS FEAT OF LAZINESS. MAKES THE REPEATED THINGS SEEM MORE PROFOUND AND MEANINGFUL THAN THEY ARE. FOR REASONS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST. THIS IS A TRADE SECRET AMONG SKILLED ARTISANS SUCH AS I.

PLEASE TRY TO KEEP THIS ON THE DOWN LOW. AND NOT TELL ANYBODY. IT CAN BE OUR SECRET. THEY DON'T EVEN NEED TO KNOW!
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>>81778795
An actual ending
A sense of conclusion
Not some Gainax ending bullshit
>>
>>81778816
like which?
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>>81777777
Impressive
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>>81778840
I've never watch a Gainax show with an ending as weak as Homestucks.
They're usually satisfying on at least a thematic level.
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>>81777327
MB is a fucking idiot
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>>81778840
Hey Evangelion had 2 great endings, they weren't bullshit
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>>81778832
most of that shit i agree with, but jane did actually reunite with her dad.

not that anyone gives a shit about that
>>
UPDATE
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>>81778795
>for me, explanation on the classpects
Then you're an idiot.

Anyway, I was kind of afraid we wouldn't get a suitably impressive sequence of the universe being created, so that was a nice surprise. I was also hoping to get some surprises and twists in the defeat of Lord English, though, and "it's not really clear what happened because we didn't get to see any of it" was not what I was thinking of.
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>>81778795
character arc conclusions for literally anybody (the only character who got a satisfying arc was dave i'm pretty sure). easter eggs/throwbacks/thematic tie-ins that reference earlier parts of the comic. something funny and cheeky. my favorite part of homestuck has always been the humor but the ending was played completely straight and that's what surprised me most.
these were the most disappointing things for me.
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>>81778788
>And also the ending is fine.
How?
It was pretty, I wont deny that. But it was just shit we already knew being shown to us in a vague manner.
Oh wait there was one new thing, Calliope black holing the green sun, which in turn just raises MORE questions.
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>>81778795
>it was all just a video game after all
>>
>>81778795
someone getting called a little green toilet elf
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>>81778851
most of the shit in >>81778832 for a start
>>
What was the point of the beforus trolls
>>
>>81778840
hey clap ending > this ending
>>
>>81777413
The blind prophets have spoken, their numbers:
confirmed
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>>81778840
you've either never watched a gainax show or you weren't paying any attention to it/them when you did
>>
>>81778871
I laughed

Then I laughed more
>>
>>81778859
Abenobashi's ending was hot garbage
>let's fucking ditch any sense of character progression and let the whiny kid get what he wants instead of growing up and dealing with life's changes
>>
>>81778859
>panty & stocking
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>>81778871
...I still checked.
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>>81778840
Gainax endings have a reputation for killing everyone off and leaving the remaining things open-ended, yet satisfying.

This ending was too open to be satisfying. We have no idea what happened and there's still loose plot threads dangling around everywhere.
>>
>boohoo Vriska's saga to forgiveness was all for nothing, she ended dead anyways

I love how the implications of this act simply destroy everything without any hint of thought through it.
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I have some issues with this but this is close enough
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>>81778729
>And the kids in the juju were also from a different timeline.
I'm not sure about this
>>
>>81778946
Panty & Stockings final episode was fantastic.
The last minute was pretty obviously a joke. Even the cast is confused.
>>
I mean I guess if Hussie wants to take the ending and explain it as "Homestuck is a story about growing up. Not everything works how you want it to or gives you a satisfying conclusion." I could accept it.

Either that or a "everything you just did was a waste of time"

It almost seems like Hussie did this intentionally to try and slip back into some form of obscurity. I don't see anyone but hardcore fans reading any further comic he does after this.
>>
so, when hussie said homestuck was gonna have a bittwersweet ending he meant because of how unsatisfying it was gonna be?
>>
Did Terezi kill herself because she knew Vriska died?
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>>81778935
>Rose talking about character arcs.txt
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>>81778985
Presumably.
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>>81778301
Mage of Doom.

Dunno what a Mage does, dunno what Doom does.
I just exist.
>>
Where did it all go wrong?
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>>81778988
No. Roxy didn't like her flirting with John so she stabbed her to death.
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>>81778976
this is reasonable. Its kind of like when I first saw Jade: Enter and had no fucking clue what was happening
>>
>>81778477
You know who you are in a different parallel universe, assuming you don't hate yourself to the point of rejection.
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>>81778976
>Rings are thrown in volcano. This kickstarts the production of the new Genesis Frog
>Money are thrown in a figurate volcano, through a kickstarter to produce a new failed game
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>>81778976
>kickstarts
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>>81779013
Right here.
http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001901
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>>81778832
>What about the felt? Are they all dead?
Sure, Slick kills them later.

>Where are all the fucking Sprites? Are they Dead? Do they not get to come to the new world?
Probably not.

>GCATavros
Ha ha, who?

>When did the 8 kids and no trolls go to fight kid caliborn
Probably after the trolls died of old age. So, a few hundred years in the kids' future.

>After John got retcon powers, Jade never moved the planet for the Calis to grow up on
That was Earth all along.

>Gamzee
The black hole that sucked in his fridge took him to Earth's far future where Caliborn was.

>What the fuck happened to living vriska and/or the rest of the dead trolls
They dead for good probably.

>Jane never reunited with her dad
Sure she did.

>John never reunited with Casey
Bubbles Von Salamancer is his own man now, ruling an undead army beyond mortal eyes.

>John and Dave didn’t have a single fucking fight together
>We never saw all 4 of the original kids in a single fight together
Yeah. Well.

>Rose never actually had a fucking arc that wasnt just being bullied by vriska to not become an alcoholic
Everyone needs to accept that Rose's arc was about letting herself be loved.

>Literally what was the point of all the Dave/Jake foreshadowing of beating English?
Dave beat that English who possessed Jack, Jake beat Caliborn before his soul got sucked into Lord English.

>Literally what was the fucking point of the Beforus trolls? Why was any of the retcon shit needed? The retcon shit that fucks up the actual timeline and would actually be relevant to beating LE?
Ha ha ha ha ha ahhhhhh

>The current timeline is a fucking infinite paradox loop where caliborn always lives, wins, becomes LE, and fucks up the other sessions
Before dying by the very thing that gave birth to him, yeah.

>Wheres the Matriorb? Are the trolls being remade?
Yeah, and then they inhabited a bunch of other planets, one of which got destroyed by Cali's dad.
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Remember when Jade was just an internet handle and we didn't even know her gender?
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>>81778976
Okay but why didn't we SEE most of that? Why didn't we see Lord English languishing inside the Juju, or even entering into it? Why didn't we see what the kids did inside the new universe instead of having it be presented ambiguously?
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>>81778281
as much as I don't want to believe it's indicative of anything, I also can't quite bring myself to believe that hussie's really fallen so far as to just forget to update basic elements of his site like that. He's a mess, I know, but he can't be that much of a mess, right?
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>>81778076
he looks like john sakars
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>>81778501
Hussie didn't even cared about writing text post Collide.

I am sure he hates Homestuck at this point.
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>>81779046
>>81779059
Yea that's one of the things I have issue with, but the kickstarter joke is nice too.

>>81779072
Because Hussie assumes his fanbase isn't retarded.

He was apparently mostly wrong.
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>>81779065
no
it was always going to be 2 girls and 2 boys
also she typed like a girl
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>>81778976
>This creates a stable time loop
How? When were the kids originally captured? When in their timeline does the masterpiece take place?
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>>81778890
she set up the hole for vriska to sink lord english in. notice his eyes turned into double 8s? lord english always has a pattern to his eyes, the 8 ball is the last to go if you want to win pool.
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>>81777865
And the friends we fucking killed along the way. RIP
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>>81778897
>>81778795

yep

basically the A1, A2, B2 (except Roxy), and Rose just don't matter

>Vriska says that Paiges are worthless and don't do a goddamn thing
>you realize that Paiges actually don't do a goddamn thing
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>>81778627
I was asking about the "main timeline" Calliope.
She was set up as a big deal, yet naught.
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>>81779090
>Because Hussie assumes his fanbase isn't retarded.

Holy shit, fuck off. 99% of people are confused about this poorly directed pile of bullshit. You're not smart, you're not clever, you might not even fucking be right in your assumptions about this shit. Kill yourself.
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It's bittersweet because:

>Vriska dies
>Karkat and Kanaya will eventually die
>the kids live out full lives, but then need to fight Caliborn to ensure their universe continues on
> the beta kids get trapped in Homestuck forever
> the alpha kids have an uncertain fate
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>>81779090
Go away Andrew i'm sick of your shit
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>>81779090
What do you have issue with? The rings being needed to stoke the Forge? I really don't see a problem with that.
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>>81779116
Uncertain, that Juju fucked with the alpha
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>>81779090
>Because Hussie assumes his fanbase isn't retarded.
Oh shut the fuck up Andrew you are a hack
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>>81779095
In the far future of their lives in the newly created universe.
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>>81779013
The undead Kanaya twist
Any protagonists getting FG powers
Introduction of the dream bubbles
Romance being actually part of the plot
Jack English
Retcon powers

These are the worst plot developments in Homestuck, and all of them contributed to how awful the ending ended up being.
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>>81777874
these are problematic gold
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>>81779095

Do you remember that Caliborn thing with wax figures and such? All kids get absorbed into the house thingy.
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>>81779126
I don't remember it ever really being mentioned, though I could just be forgetting it.

PM hated the rings, but I don't think that had anything to do with the forge or the frog.

Of course that could just be something inferred
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CALLIOPE FUCKING DIES

she must take out off later and Roxy banishes it to Caliborns session for the sake of the loop
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>>81777777
Checked.
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>>81778251
How did our heroes create the new universe with a juju again? I lost track of this goddamn comic a long time ago.
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>>81779115
>>81779124
>>81779145
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>>81779164
Pretty sure the trolls say they used their rings on the Forge.
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>>81779090
>Because Hussie assumes his fanbase isn't retarded.
>extrapolating events that are not portrayed happening means you're retarded
Oh my god, fuck off.
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>>81779183
They made it with the frog dude.

Remember, literally the point of S_URB? Universe creation?
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>mfw I thought alt!Calliope would literally fight LE

I don't know what to think of this.
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>>81779061
Slick revived the Felt with Die's doll from when he killed them earlier, I'm pretty sure. Their fate past Collide is ambiguous.
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Wait so what happens to Calliope to where she becomes Caliborn?
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>>81778795
>thinking that the Trolls will be revived, get their own arcs, and all ascend to god-tiers
>Hussie "nope they're all dead and useless!"

being a troll (besides the Karma Houdini Vriska) is suffering
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>>81779100
His eyes have been static 8's for plenty of fucking panels
They were like that when Hussie threw the god damn revolver at him
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>>81779208
They could have, I'll look around later.
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>>81779204
I need moar of these. Link?
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>>81778017
Don't forget the Condesce dying despite having that LE's immortality curse. What happened to that? That thing wasn't powered by the Green Sun, as far as I recall.
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>>81779153
I guess that could work. Just seems kinda unsatisfying.

>>81779163
I remember that, I was asking when that happened in the kids' timelines.
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>>81777777
Witnessed
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>>81779222
Vriska fucking died in every timeline
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>>81778589

IF YOU READ THE BOOK, IT HAD 2 ENDINGS.
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>>81779164
It was mentioned last year, when Kanaya told Jade what they'd need to make the new universe. But Hivebent already mentioned that the trolls threw their queens' rings into the Forge. I thought the whole thing was rather fitting. Beyond the obvious LOTR parallel it also gives the players another final boss type encounter. They need to get the scepter from the king to stop the Reckoning and the ring from the queen to light the Forge.
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>>81778976
I was under the impression he wasn't "trapped inside" the door, the door simply ended his game, effectively disengaging any game structures in effect, like his immortality. it forced him to grow up by ending the infinite game, the one thing he didn't want and couldn't do because outside of the game he mastered he was powerless. Then he died.

of course it has also been over a year and I have yet to go back and actually brush up on any of the everything I'm sure I don't remember
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>"I didn't want it to end like this."
>"Nobody ever wanted it to, Reader."
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>>81779210
The genesis frog is a juju? Wow. I've forgotten more about this shit then I realized.
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>the end of Collide sets up some ominous shit
>literally nothing like that happens
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>>81779215
Nothing. Caliborn took over their body, and had their sessions Jack kill her dreamself. It's her ghost walking around now, they're completely separate.
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>>81779241

I have no clue. That whole part is a mess time-wise.
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>>81779241
After they've lived long enough in their universe to be happy. Notice how Karkat and Kanaya aren't there: they're dead.
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>>81779160
>The undead Kanaya twist
What's your big problem with that? Seems a little silly compared to the rest.
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>>81779090
>Because Hussie assumes his fanbase isn't retarded.
Hussie prettymuch exclusively assumes he fanbase is retarded, did you miss the part where the majority of readers took his parodies at face value for 5 years?
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>>81779095
naturally it takes place after Caliborn smashes that clock

>John: hey the universe is rebuild and everyone is happy!
>John: soooo, do you want to fuck Caliborn's day up?
>Dave: smartest thing you've ever said
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>>81779262
No lil cal and the box were jujus, and maybe other things? I don't remember.

The genesis frog is just a thing about S_URB and always has been
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it'd be nice if the comic ended with the style of 95% of the comic and not with a fucking fan animation. At least Collide was filled with Hussie's style and humor. I'm starting to believe that there was no point to any of the last few years in the story, John getting the Retcon powers didn't even build up to an ultimate climax. Should have just had GAME OVER be the end of the comic.
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>>81779276
That or they just didn't come because they're not god tiers.
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I always wondered what the deal with john and jane's dad was. For some reason he looked extremely similar to colonel sassacre, and then the post-scratch dad seemed to know john at the end there. Why are both of their dads the same guy
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>>81779188
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>>81779292
the problem with that is the lack of all the other characters in Caliborns masterpiece. I guess you could take it as caliborn not caring about them and not including them.

But could calliope get the golden tooth, leg, and gun if someone said caliborn?
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>>81779297
Yeah I still remember that much. It's just there was this anon earlier in the thread claiming that the new universe was made using a juju and that means LE can't touch it.

I have no idea what that anon is talking about.
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No one else is noticing that all the visions of the future Earth occur inside time-bullshit framing?

No one else is noticing that the actual final moments of Kids on Platform (John at Door, Caliborn powering up) are a perfect parallel of Trolls on Platform (Karkat at door, Jack powering up)?

Has everyone forgotten about circumstantial simultaneity? Hussie just obfuscated the BAD END we all knew was coming into a Gainax ending, probably because of all the autistic fucks in the fanbase who might literally kill themselves if he gave it straight.
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>>81779231
https://web.archive.org/web/20090201171029/http://andrewhussie.com/comics.php
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>>81779300
> I'm starting to believe that there was no point to any of the last few years in the story
Act 6 was totally superfluous, yes.
This finale reeks of "I planned this for Act 5 and when I sent the storyboards out I had no idea where I was going with Act 6."

>Should have just had GAME OVER be the end of the comic.
Game Over was awful and one of the worst looking flashes.
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>>81779277
because Kanaya is a mary sue character that is too perfect for the comic to be believable if she has an active influence, it undermined death in the comic, and it felt like pandering just allowing a fan favorite to live after she died
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>>81779095
Yeah this is the part I don't get. All that stuff with the kids inside the juju but not actually inside the juju is really hazy.
ORIGINALLY, I thought this was what happened:
>John opens the door, but instead of bringing them to the new universe, this brings them to the "fight" with LE, because by Vriska activating the juju, it summoned them there
>Things play out like in Caliborn's claymation - the kids get sucked into the juju (again) and this is the loop, the kids are eternally stuck in the juju
>Alt!Callie breaks the loop by destroying the green sun and making the black hole and destroying LE along with the universe or whatever
But that can't be right, because then why wasn't Vriska and the ghost army present in Caliborn's claymation telling of the events? And why are we shown the new universe with the kids living in it if they never even make it there? And it would also imply that they're just trapped in the juju forever, but the universe is destroyed anyway, so I guess they would get destroyed along with it? I don't know.

This >>81778976 makes the most sense but it still doesn't explain the juju thing.
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>>81777351
Was waiting for someone to post this. Saved.
thanks bro
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So what was the deal with Doc Scratch then? Did alchemising Cal somehow transfer English's soul over to the outcome? And why did it even make scratch and not just English? How about the allusions to Calliope and Scratch? Was it something to do with how Cherubs share bodies? And what was with the 'calling card' bullshit and painting him as the way paradox space gets rid of universes like English hits up universes on the regular? He's only in like 2 universes.
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>>81778815
For me it was the scratch and the begin of the three years travel.

It took so much dynamic out of the story and I hated the fact, how the group got split.

They could at least train or hit up some books or do show matches to arrive prepared, but noooo, they did their best to waste their times as much as they can.

Rose and Terezi were both Seers, yet Terezi implied on Rose's planet that they didn't talk even once on the Meteor. GG no re.

And yes, the retcon was fucking unnecessary. John has a literal gamebreaker at his hand. He could've prevented Murderstuck, instead performing would you kindlies by Terezi. Excuse me, that I assumed his OP power will play a major role during and after the fight.

Also Aradia best troll, in all her iterations. I mean just look at the pic! I'd wish to know what she and Sollux were planning, but alas!
It's incredible, how Hussie could write out a troll, despite being one of the alive faction, but it could be a good thing. At least Hussie didn't had the chance to ruin her.
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>>81779335
That's what I want to believe but it would be too good to be true, and his news post doesn't hint at it at all.
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>>81779357
It's from a post on tumblr.
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>>81779317

Alpha Dad is sort of John's son, anon.
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>>81779145

FUCK OFF PIG
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Caliborn did nothing wrong, he was just following his nature. :(
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>>81779317
dad's are a universal constant, anon
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>>81779366
English destroyed a lot of universes offscreen. We don't see him destroying them because it's not that important.
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>>81779317
>and then the post-scratch dad seemed to know john at the end there.
John was Jame's Dad's Dad

You don't remember poppop?
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>>81779344
Yeah that's definitely silly.
>pandering
Nigger, what do you even mean by that? It's not like she was dead for months and then he brought her back in reaction to some kind of backlash.
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>>81778501
Did Hussie actually make Collide? If he did it kinda works for me as a meanspirited jab at fans wanting a straight fight. It shows that it doesn't really work with Homestuck's style.
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>>81779322
only living characters that wasn't included was the trolls

and the trolls are busy with the whole "rebuilding the troll society" thing
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>>81779366
Scratch was just Lil' Cal plus cueball, creating a different entity that later served as the gateway for LE.

>How about the allusions to Calliope and Scratch?
There was never anything there.
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>>81779334
He's just retarded, ignore him.
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>>81779409
I don't think I would recognize my dad as a fifteen year old, though.
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My main gripe is that both Collide and ACT 7 feel more like set-up, not proper endings
Like, if you've seen Zootopia, you'll know what I'm talking about. Some events were concluded but there's still way more story to be had. Imagine if Zootopia had ended with Judy's press conference
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>>81779440
Actually to be more specific, he was Lil' Cal plus cueball plus the first guardian code.
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>>81779430
Collide and ACT 7 were put together by the same person.
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>>81778568
I like the part where he visits Echidna and gets knocked out in order to lead the charge and then that development goes nowhere and he doesn't gain anything from it.

Karkat really got fucked over by Hussie's writing. At least he gets to survive, I guess.
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>>81779367

This. Aradia best girl.
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>>81778507
It could've been funnier.
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>>81779379
>>81779404
>>81779409
Oh, right. Thanks for clearing that up.
So dad is jake's son pre-scratch then?
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>>81777697
i bet you live and breathe undertale you colossal faggot
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40585720/Combined_Formspring_Web_Aug-28-2011.htm

reading through this
everything makes sense
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>>81778795
Actual fucking closure

What do they do on a day to day basis? Who hooked up? What do they want? What's it like living on a planet with just 8 humans and 3(?) aliens? What happened to the sprites?

WHERE ARE MY BITCHES?
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>tfw you realize you just wasted the past several years of your life
It's what hurts the most.
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>>81779440
>>81779366

Doc Scratch was the Juju named Lil Cal fused with a cueball.

Because the cueball suppresses cherub nature, this pretty much made LE without Caliborn's influence, so we get Auto-Responder with Equius and Gamzee quirks.
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>>81779494
No. Pre-Scratch he's Nanna's, i.e. Jane's son.
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>>81779503
Not like you would have been doing anything more worthwhile, really
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>>81779350

EXCEPT WHY THE FUCK WOULD LE BE DESTROYED BY A BLACK HOLE? HE'S IMMORTAL. LIKE, NO BULLSHIT IMMORTAL.

PLUS HE CAN STILL TELEPORT OUT AND ENTER THE NEW UNIVERSE
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>>81779375
No it isnt, i made this yesterday.
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>>81779494
No, technically the uncle.

Nanna+??? = Dad
Poppop+??? = rDad
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>>81779503
Dude if the ending of a webcomic can determine whether you wasted years of your life, then those years were wasted no matter what that ending is like.
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>>81778976
But there is no "old" and "new" universe for Calliope to destroy, it's all part of the Paradox Space. If Calliope's black hole destroyed everything, it'd include Bilious Slick and the universe within him.
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hey guys, remember Karkat's curse? Dad didn't die; when did that stop being a thing?
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>>81778976
So Gamzee is in the new universe? And Vriska is too?
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>>81777723
>That's the best fucking question anybody's asked
i didn't find it, the last words are from the greatest reunion (arquiusprite and davepetasprite^2) and are "But most of all, post them because you really want to, and were PROBABLY going to do it anyway even if I didn't say all this bullshit."
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>>81779530
the juju you dumb fuck, and no he can't teleport out, he doesn't fucking have the coat
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My first thought was
>Im not rereading this
Later I thought
>Im rereading problem sleuth
And now Im thinking
>Ill reread problem sleuth and reread this piece of shit bit by bit instead of a week of speedreading
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>>81778795
LE should have actually fucking died instead of being trapped in the Absolutely Safe Deus ex Machina. I mean, it was all leading up to his fucking clock being brought back by the retcon house and instead it just traps him? What the fuck?
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>>81779515
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < but you werent actually deprived of important experiences
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < stuff like us dating and johns stupid birthday parties and playing shitty ghostbuster mmos
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < that stuff all happened to you, its just you dont have access to the memories
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < they didnt happen to shape this particular version of yourself
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < but they all played a role in helping like "greater jade" grow if that makes sense
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < everything that ever happens to every version of you is an important part of your ultimate self... like a superceding bodyless and timeless persona that crosses the boundaries of paradox space and unlike god tiers or bubble ghosts or whatever, it really IS immortal
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < but in your physical form there are all these partitions in your mind that prevent you from remembering any of that which makes your existence f33l totally linear
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < which is probably for the best!
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < in a regular body s33ing all that would be too overwhelming
DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < in an advanced sprite form like mine tho its fine

Remember when Davepetasprite said this shit? It's cool as hell, talking about the platonic ideal self of the players.

It amounted to fucking nothing and I'm mad about it. It's a cool as hell idea that's wasted.
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>>81779563
why did he take it off
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So what was the point of the John arms?
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>>81779494
Nana adopted Dad, Dad adopted John
Poppop adopted Dad, Dad adopted Jane

Nana is Jane
John is Poppop
Dad is Dad
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>>81779247

Maybe I'm forgetting. It's been a bit of a while since I read. I didn't remember him entering the Tower as an ending. Just a brief pause before the real thing.
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god DAMN i hated that ending. Lord english was foreshadowed to be an indestructible demon but once vriska found the juju macguffin they were able to just show him being one shotted.
The hype had no payoff aside from LE killing a bunch of ghosts
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>>81779559

it's the final text before the fight against the spades, anon.
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>>81779367
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>>81779530
Apparently the cue ball was made from parts of Caliborns destroyed death clock. So Dave's cueball sword can kill him.

How did people figure out that the cue ball was made from that clock though?
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I think it's overwhelmingly clear that this ending was storyboarded and planned out long before the rest of the plot here, and that's why it's a completely disjointed experience that does not seem to follow with what led up to it.
We don't care about Caliborn getting his invulnerability juice. We already know how he became Lord English. But we didn't when this was storyboarded.
We don't care about Bilious Slick. We already know he's going to be made into a new universe, safe and sound. It wasn't something that was in question, or if it was, it was a question that nobody cared about anymore.
But when Hussie storyboarded this, we might have. We last saw Bilious Slick just before [S] Cascade, probably around the time this actually was jotted down. So instead of a proper wind-up and release, we've had years to lose all tension about the fucking frog. He's been out of sight and out of mind.

And so, the big finale, the end of the book, is 3/4ths about stuff we do not fucking care about.
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>>81779496
>Wait, Virgos have a belly fetish??
>I guess that explains all my stupid fat Vriska jokes.

Classic.
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>>81779559
>i didn't find it, the last words are from the greatest reunion
no, it's not

it's dirk talking before collide happens
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>>81779375
>implying i go on tumblr
Then i never would have seen it.
Guess i should say thanks for posting it -here-.
Just copy paste but im still grateful. Fucking manners, anon.
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>>81779063
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>>81779606
got it
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>>81779578
Are you kidding me? It's completely relevant, its telling the audience that the characters from the Game Over timeline still live on, just not literally.
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>>81779618
You see the cue ball on the clock's pendulum when Caliborn breaks it over his knee.
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>>81779633 (33)
See >>81779533 (332)
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>>81779344

The trolls are all parodies of various things, anon. Kanaya was that from the get-go. It's not like the troll-vampire thing was a sudden asspull. It was hinted at from her first god damned panel.
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hussie drew 0 things for the finale
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>>81778979
>What about the felt? Are they all dead?
For the sake of tying loose ends up, yes. Brutal, Savage, Rekt, Absolutely Taken Down!

>Where are all the fucking Sprites? Are they Dead? Do they not get to come to the new world?
Who knows? Looks at Nannasprite. Sometimes she's there, sometimes she isn't.

>GCATavros
Lel, bitchboy is just Vriska's satellite character since Hivebent. No Vriska no Tavros. The only other troll he ever talked to was Gamzee.

>When did the 8 kids and no trolls go to fight kid caliborn
When everyone of the trolls dies. Terezi is the one who may live the longest, so in a thousand years? (Mindfang's live minus the life of a rust blood). That's right, 8 grown-ass adults couldn't deal with a kid cherub.

>After John got retcon powers, Jade never moved the planet for the Calis to grow up on
Earth?

>Gamzee
Black holed

>What the fuck happened to living vriska and/or the rest of the dead trolls
Ded, either by LE or by Black hole

>Jane never reunited with her dad
Act 7
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I'd hate to say something even remotely hopeful, but you guys do realize there is still one more 4:13, right? 4:13pm that is
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>>81779563

HAVE YOU AND I BEEN READING THE SAME COMIC? HE CAN TELEPORT THAT COAT AROUND WILLY-NILLY AND EVEN BETWEEN DIMENSIONS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE HE SUDDENLY LOST THOSE POWERS?

AND WHAT ABOUT THE JUJU? IT WAS JUST THERE AND GLOWING MENACINGLY AT HIM. LITERALLY DID NOTHING YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
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>>81779658
I mean that's the sort of concept or bombshell you can build a story or arc around. You don't fucking drop that shit when 99.9% of the comic is done. That would've been a cool angle to explore way earlier in the comic.
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>>81779335
I think the ending was probably intended to be very ambiguous.

It really isn't clear if the future is real or imaginary, since we cut back to john at the door afterwards.

You could take it many different ways. Was it a sweet happy ending? Maybe. Did everyone die fighting LE? Also maybe.

Hussie might tell us his intentions one day, but damn, this ending was unsatisfying. I like ambiguous endings and all, but I don't think HS needed one. It would have worked fine with a more conventional ending.
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>>81779497
the immediate lives of the kids wasn't even what was really important, it was the idea of what kind of society they'd make. That was the whole point of emphasis with the chance to make new universes as illustrated by the dynamic of the trolls having two sessions with flipflopped social values: one driven to make a more warlike universe because theirs was too peaceful, and the other to make a more tolerant one because theirs was too ruthless. The creation of a new universe was about recitfying the kids' issues with their parent figures, which had all come to the forefront over the course of the story and in particular parts of a6.
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>>81779223
yes and? it wouldn't have been as funny if his eyes were flashing. his defeat was symbolic to a pool game.

vriska sunk the 8 ball into the hole and beat LE. the end.
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>>81778301
>were
fuck.
...fuck
it's really fucking over, isn't it?
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>>81779701
this is just like mgsv afterparty

no, there is nothing coming at 4:13, you have to admit it
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I never posted in these threads, only came here for the finale.

Can someone fill me in on the "Vriska is fat" or "EVERYONE IS FAT" memes?
How were they born?
Why?
I kept seeing them mentioned then deleted before the shitstorm exploded
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>>81779704
im almost certain that used the green sun to teleport. Calliope destroyed it.
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>>81779704
>EVEN BETWEEN DIMENSIONS
LE is Funny Valentine confirmed
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>>81779542
No matter how much you participated in the fandom, even if it's just HSG, the average person here who has also read the entire comic at least once has put in at least a few hundred hours into all this. I know I personally have dedicated thousands of hours of my life towards enjoying this.
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>>81779687
Riddle me this: how did Condesce end up dead without Roxy inheriting LE's Curse?
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I haven't felt this angry since the ending of Umineko and Remember11.
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>>81779679
"liking vampires" is not foreshadowing of being a vampire

moreover, those introductions didn't mean shit: eridan didn't become some grand military commander, feferi did nothing of importance regarding the empire or creating a more ideal society, karkat was never a crucial leader, nepeta never became an actual cat, et cetera
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>>81779704

Summoning the cloak and sarcophagus was tied to the power of the green sun and, effectively, the power from the game itself.

alt Calliope destroyed the sun and took the powers it bestowed on players with it, thus ending abilities such as summoning and the guardians power.

I believe that up to this point even John's retcon powers would not function anymore.
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>>81779740
Hussie started it
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>>81779740
Search this thread for "formspring" and read the archive.
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>>81779730
Nope

Hope you're happy with another 7 years until the epilogue
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>>81779600

THE WAY THE BULLSHIT BOOK WORKED IS THAT IT HAD TWO ENDINGS.

THE FIRST ONE WHERE HE WALKS INTO THE TOWER SHOUTING THE NAMES OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO DIED/HE SACRIFICED FOR THE TOWER.

THEN STEPHEN KING TAKES LIKE 3 PAGES TO INSULT YOU FOR WANTING TO KNOW WHAT THE TRUE PURPOSE OF THE TOWER AND WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS THERE, FOR BEING CURIOUS, AND WANTING MORE CLOSURE THAN "LOL HE MADE IT."

THEN THE THING WITH THE CYCLIC NATURE OF TIME HAPPENS.

SO BASICALLY THE REAL ENDING HE WANTED EVERYONE TO READ WAS A COPOUT ENDING, JUST LIKE THIS FUCKING ENDING. THE REAL ENDING ACTUALLY GAVE A SENSE OF CLOSURE.
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>>81779618
I assume it's just assumption based on the pendulum having a bit that looks kinda like it.
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>>81779704
>HAVE YOU AND I BEEN READING THE SAME COMIC? HE CAN TELEPORT THAT COAT AROUND WILLY-NILLY AND EVEN BETWEEN DIMENSIONS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE HE SUDDENLY LOST THOSE POWERS?

He literally DID suddenly lose those powers with the green fucking sun, which is the origin of Space powers like that.

He lost because he teleported his coat of I-can-do-time-shit away so he could fight shirtless like a man, then lost the power to teleport it back to himself with the green sun's destruction.

Like fucking pottery
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>>81779744
Yeah, that was pretty clearly a Green Sun effect in the second intermission flash.
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>>81779687
>yfw Dad pie'd Cans to death
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>>81779787
I remember reading it and there was one change to what he did from last time. I took that as the next time or very very soon he was going to not fucking kill all his friends and finish it.
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>>81779796
We've seen that pendulum a bunch of times. It's literally a cueball.
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update!
>you will never fall for a fake update post again
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>>81779778
Wouldn't the destruction of the green sun kind of fuck up everything? It was necessary for Sburb, since First Guardians were powered by it. Its destruction created a supermassive black hole bigger than 2 universes combined.

I don't think the retcon powers came from it, since there's no implications that jujus require it to function.
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>>81779799
That's incredibly retarded if that's the case
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>>81778404
Well. The day hasn't ended yet. And ending beign shorter than Cascade or Collide is fucking bullshit,
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>>81779844
Just like Caliborn.
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>>81779618

YEAH, EXCEPT AWESOME HOW NONE OF THAT HAPPENED, AND WE JUST HAD THE FUCKING LOGO GLOW AT HIM MENACINGLY
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>>81779816
What would be the one change to the story that would lead to a better ending?

It's John shitting on his desk isn't it
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>>81779816
Yeah, the Horn of Eld. There's the theory that the number nineteen keeps coming up in the books because it's the nineteenth time he's going through the loop.
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>>81779740
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>>81779621
I cared about the frog, and thought it was neat to see the new universe being formed.

I'd be happy to pass that up for something that resolves the issues actively rather than going "hey, you know that shitty joke battle that happened a few acts back? yeah, that was actually all we feel you needed to see of the bad guy's end, so we're not gonna bother with the actual fight".
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>>81779837
Are the First Guardians actually necessary, or were they something English added to the game to make sure he could enter universes?
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>>81779858
for HS the kickstarter not happening

for the Dark tower eh I was cool with it. I read it years after it concluded though so I never had to wait. The later books got kind of wacky though
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>>81778832
>John never reunited with Casey
Casey is the reason LE was killing those ghosts in the first place. See, for necromancy, you need a Consort skeleton and a Troll ghost to bind it to them. LE is a piece of shit, but even he had standards, and double killing those ghosts and crippling the horrorterrors, who supplied Casey with the unholy powers was a huge fucking favour he did to everyone, otherwise all the Troll and Kids sessions would be overrun by spooky trollghostconsort skeltals. Also since when did the Horrorterrors became so irrelevant? Weren't they supposed to be mutated Gamzees and Kurlozes, since they bled purple?

>John and Dave didn’t have a single fucking fight together
They did fought Caliborn together and lost, but that is a different story.

>We never saw all 4 of the original kids in a single fight together
Same as above. It should be rather "we never saw all the kids fighting a single fight and WIN

>Rose never actually had a fucking arc that wasnt just being bullied by vriska to not become an alcoholic
Alternative Roses had. To be honest, I was expecting a soul merger after they entered that door, ever since Davepeta implied it and Rose actually performed it once.

>Literally what was the point of all the Dave/Jake foreshadowing of beating English?
Red Herring. Shitty Twist. Pick one.
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>>81779704
Karkat pls go

>>81779678
thanks
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>>81779778
>I believe that up to this point even John's retcon powers would not function anymore.
but you would be wrong because he uses them in cherub session
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>>81779837

It did fuck up everything, in a sense. That's why people are saying that everyone in outer space is dead. Even probably the old gods. The kids and everyone else in that platform were safeguarded by in theory being moved to an entire new universe, not connected to the one they were inside in any way.

First guardians only objective is to protect the players, or whoever they pledge alliance to. They are not necessary for a session to be successful.

It's still quite confusing, given how little information we were given.
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>>81779767

Liking vampires, being a troll that can miraculously go out in the sun. Not long after, we get the whole 'desire to try drinking blood' stuff. It was beating you over the head the entire time, anon.
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>>81779899
It seemed like they were a failsafe in case the god tiers couldn't enter the created universe. Beq was definitely a benevolent force who was implied to protect Earth up until his death.
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>>81779920
>safeguarded by in theory being moved to an entire new universe,
Universe frogs exist in paradox space, a fact Bec Noir gleefuly exploited. There's no escape.
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>>81779744
>>81779778
>>81779799

I WILL FUCKING QUOTE AGAIN:

"There is only one in existence, and it is the source of the powers of all first guardians. The pre-scratch kids and post-scratch trolls intended to destroy the Green Sun so that Jack Noir would lose his power. According to Doc Scratch, the destruction of the Green Sun would result in the destruction of the first guardians. "

IT'S NOT THE SOURCE OF SPACE POWERS. IT'S NOT THE SOURCE OF THE CAIRO OVERCOAT. IT'S JUST THE SOURCE OF FIRST GUARDIAN POWERS.

NOW IF YOU WERE TO SAY THAT LORD ENGLISH WOULD'VE LOST THE POWERS GRANTED TO HIM BY DOC SCRATCH'S BODY, THEN YES, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.

BUT BEING THE OWNER (AND SUMMONER) OF THE CAIRO OVERCOAT IS NOT A FIRST GUARDIAN POWER, THEREFORE, HE STILL HAS IT AND CAN USE IT TO ENTER THE NEW UNIVERSE.
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>>81779844
Well, most of the stuff in Homestuck's incredibly stupid if you think about it.
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>>81779920
>green cherub ushered in the destruction of everything
>direct opposite of what green cherubs are said to do
Eeeech, might as well have just let LE go
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>>81779920
We're shown that there's one overarching "universe" in which everything is contained. The Genesis Frogs, the Furthest Ring, and all Sburb instances all take place in some kind of endless expanse. The Green Sun is no exception, so creating a black hole greater than the size of two universes would probably have some kind of negative effect on neighboring structures.
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXCPLAIN WHAT THIS SHIT WAS
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>>81779924
>a benevolent force who was implied to protect Earth up until his death.
Bec fucking glassed the Earth. He was the final nail in humanity's coffin.
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>>81779920
Except that new universe should be connected to the rest of paradox space, in the same way A1, A2, B1 and B2 were adjacent to each other and the green sun

in the sense that there is any adjacency when space and time are arbitrary anyway
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>>81779973
Bad.
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>>81779721
Whatever anon, you can believe your fanfictiona ll you want
We never see what the Juju did to LE, we've seen him with 8 ball eyes plenty of times, so that's all your words are, a theory.

The Sun being destroyed could have just been to stop his overcoat and sarcophagus like many anons are saying
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KIDS AND FUN
WASTED YOUR TIME
KIDS AND FUN
WASTED YOUR TIME
KIDS AND FUN
WASTED YOUR TIME
KIDS AND FUN
WASTED YOUR TIME
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>>81779973
the end of homestck
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Would you guys be more satisfied with a walkaround flash with John where you got to interact with everyone one last time instead of this ending?
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>>81779946
>enter the new universe
He doesn't have the coat though.
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>>81779973
Disappointing.
http://strawpoll.me/7359067/r
The "ok" section's been getting bigger as the day continues, which is people slowly accepting their miserable fate.
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>>81779966
>overarching "universe"
Isn't that what you refer to as paradox space?
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>>81779744
He teleported the coat from Hussie's mansion.
When flying between the two fenestrated walls Jade said her first guardian powers didn't work there.
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>>81779973
they won and had a happy ending the end
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>>81780018
Yeah, I forgot. I'm too mad about this ending to remember every piece of terminology.
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>>81777574
>You fags loved the garbage pile that was Collide and the actual ending was a million timers better

Reminder that a million times zero is still zero
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>>81779946
Fucking use your eyes. You can see that the Cairo Overcoat uses the EXACT SAME effect that all Green Sun powered beings use.
Also, what you're quoting there is the fucking wiki. There is no legitimacy to that.
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Is there a way or a link to download all HS pannels? I need for a thing.
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>>81777872
Except getting the Ring of Void. That's the biggest unanswered question about Caliborn becoming Lord English. How the fuck did he get the Ring of Void?

Looking back at this comic, I have one thing to say. The Retcon wasted all of the characters and their development, and it seems like it was just because Hussy was too lazy to care about proper character arcs and made up some bullshit about "Ultimate Selves" as an excuse.
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>>81780013

YOU ARE A RETARDED IDIOT.
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>>81780012
I'd be satisfied with a straight up text story. I don't fucking need any bells and whistles, just explain shit to me clearly Hussie.
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>>81779744
He teleported it from Hussie's mansion.
While flying from one fenestrated wall to the other Jade said her first guardian powers do not work there.
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>>81779921
being a troll that can miraculously go out in the sun doesn't require being a vampire
desire to try drinking blood is exactly the same as liking vampires

moreover, even assuming she is a vampire, being a vampire does not imply being undead
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>>81780013
>OWNER (AND SUMMONER)
The guy's assuming the ability to summon it is part of owning it. I've long since given up on understanding this steamy fresh fuckery, but whether or not he can summon it is what's in question here, not whether or not he currently has it.
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>>81780012
Yes
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>>81780056
Ultimate Selves are a real thing but they were only used to develop like 4 characters (John, Roxy, Davesprite, and Rosesprite). The retcon should never have happened and the pre-scratch trolls should never have been introduced. Those were the two single largest fuckups Hussie has done to his story.
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>>81779973
see
>>81775476
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i cant wait for the movies and rebuild
they will fix this
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>>81780056
Yeah the Ring of Void is a loose end. Where was it the last time?
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>>81780083
before you shout at me for that first statement, I mean it could have just been some weird thing about jade bloods that doesn't require being a vampire to explain, like vriska/sollux/aradia/tavros/gamzee have their psychic abilties and eridan/feferi can breathe underwater
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>>81779944

But paradox space is gone, anon. That's why the juju was used along with the frog creation process, to shut the new universe out of the whole paradox universe thing.
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goddamn lord english is hot

damn shame there's little bara of him
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>>81780078
SBURB made the frog, it also happened to kanaya's session, i dont see what you missed here.
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>>81779787

There comes a point where the author is part of the story. Literally, in the case of The Dark Tower. King doesn't berate you for wanting more, so much as tries to tell you to be happy with what could be seen as a concrete ending point. Because the true ending, even with its glimmer of hope, is decidedly more grim than if Roland reaches his destination and that's that.

Of course just reaching the tower would be a terrible ending. But it's not the ending. If King actually didn't want you to read on, he wouldn't have written any more. You're supposed to be unfulfilled and you're supposed to carry on to the top of the tower. It's just a brief interlude to warn that there is no storybook ending waiting there. It's flavorful and it fits nicely into the narrative and world he's weaved.
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Leakerbro here.

>Hiveswap is actually a time paradox also set in Homestuck
>Adult Karkat becomes the mad god tyrant of trollkind who killed his human friends, because he got ditched by Dave (Rufioh style) and then waged war on humanity.
>he is also the final boss of Hiveswap
>Vriska becomes the legendary God-Queen who saved the universe, but Joey and her troll friends think she is actually a huge tool when they comment on her statues. She also "mysteriously" vanished on earth.
>There is even a dreambubble part where Joey gets to chat with the dreambubble inhabitants like Meenah and Tavros and they confirm that Vriska took all the credit and did some dubious shit to banish LE.

I hope you guys will enjoy this game.
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Nothing indicates the Cairo Overcoat can escape the black hole anyway.
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>>81780125
>That's why the juju was used along with the frog creation process,
Please explain, I really don't get this part.
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English can't enter the new universe because the way he enters universes is through Doc Scratch. No Green Sun, no First Guardians, no Scratch.
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>>81780121
Rebuild of Homestuck 1.0 The Ride (Never) Ends
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>>81777744
No
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>>81777390
>All I remember is that the planet was covered in shitty jpg Statues of Liberty.
That planet's name... was Earth!
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>>81780140
Why do people make elaborate fake leaks
I never understood it.
Do you guys really value the attention of anonymous users
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>>81780140
>Karkat is the final boss because he got cucked

PLEASE be true
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>>81780012
Well no, because that doesn't sound like it'd resolve the climactic scene either.
If that was done in the usual picture/dialoglog format followed by a walkaround to cap things out though, that would have been nice.
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>>81780140
>dream bubbles from loop k existing
>Vriska of loop k still alive
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>>81780140
What about Honk Friend
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>>81780163
The way he enters universes is through Lil Cal causing nightmares though right? Or maybe through some bullshit with his Ring of Void. I think there are lot of ways for him to already be there.
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So how does John feel about dating a single mom?
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Everyone shits on the retcon, but thematically I like it.
Like, IN EXECUTION it's severely lacking in enough aspects that it's awful, but the idea of it was pretty okay.
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Daily reminder that Hussie storyboarded the ending 4 YEARS ago.
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>>81779881
back when HS was good and Hussie wasn't shit
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>>81780211
John loves to spend time with his wife's daughter.
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I never liked calliope
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So

Which ending was better, this or Mass Effect 3?
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>Terezi killed herself
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>>81780200
Vriska got out before everything died.
All the trolls did
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Finally Hussie has time to work on what's truly important, SBaHJ!
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Anyone else stopped caring about anything else Homestuck related after this?
I lost all of my faith in the Huss.
The game was supposed to be released a long time ago, the comic ended in the worst way possible, there was nothing to redeem the shipping bullshit.
Remember how amazing the "final blow" against DMK was?
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>>81780209
Cal doesn't work either, since Union Jack absorbed the juju power from him and died.
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>>81780126
God I know, he looked so fucking good that it almost makes up for a fraction of how bad this was

>>81780242
She never liked you either
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>>81780155

Me neither, so take it it a whole pound of salt.

If the frog was created under normal circumstances, it would inhabit paradox space and thus be eligible to be killed not only by jack, but also by LE and whatever would happen to the entirety of PS.

By using the weird house thingy, Vriska was able to shut the session of the 4 kids down as a particular point in whatever place, NOT pertaining to the paradox space. As John enters the door, he moves everything along with himself to this new place, unreachable by LE and anyone else left behind in PS.

This is what I believe makes the most sense as to why the fuck Vriska used that damn Juju.

Aside from that, only the epilogue would be able to explain something more clearly.
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>>81780214
But the execution is what we shit
Davekat could be good, squared sprites could be good, a happy ending could be good. They all lacked execution.
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OH SHIT

Hussie didn't know Terezi would be alive or the Felt would be back, so they weren't in the flash.
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>>81780244
It doesn't get much worse than 'it's all just a dream, buy the dlc' but it's a close one
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>>81780253
no she's away at namco high
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>>81780253
>Roxy killed Terezi
ftfy
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>LE getting sucked into a black hole

Uh, I'm pretty sure you guys have read Problem Sleuth. This is a pretty fucking bad idea.
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>>81780083
>>81780123

>You are one of the few of your kind who can withstand the BLISTERING ALTERNIAN SUN, and perhaps the only who enjoys the feel of its rays.

That doesn't sound much like all jade bloods being sunwalkers. It could have been a thing, but I think the way that was handled was fine.
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Lets remember:
>sprites all presumed dead
>most trolls presumed dead
>Roxy didn't get the curse of Handmaiden or HIC (even though HIC is immortal but whatever)
>Roxy couldnt be bothered to make sacrificial slabs for Sollux/Karkat/Kanaya/Terezi
>Epilogue someday
>jumped
>the
>fucking
>shark
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>>81780288
Yeah.
What it all comes back to is that Hussie just kind of fucked the last leg of the comic up, even more than usual.
I guess that's what happens when you stop giving a fuck.
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Shhhh, hsg, shhhhh.
Pap, pap, pap.
Let's pretend Hussie died before finishing the series, and let's post our favourite music and pictures related to he comic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8sBtl3WYZo
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>>81780280
ALSO check out this important skull-boy bulge
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>>81780261
Because that makes any fucking sense at all. Especially given they were swarming LE and LE was pocketed.
Aradia watched the vortex and she wasn't even in the swarm. Sorry mate but only lilypad trolls made it into cherub session.

Quite frankly they were the only ones worth saving.
>terezi not featured on the reel
Fucking annoying.
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>>81780312
He got sucked into the house which got sucked into the hole

all the epilogue really needs to cover is what happened to

>Vriska
>Terezo
>the Felt
>sprites
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>>81780298
Ït was all intended, wait for the epilogue (which is not a way to save my ass after all this backlash).
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>>81780347
good shit
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>>81777327
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>>81780240
He also enjoys cuckolding his own father/adoptive son.
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>>81780244
This. It's bad, but it's nowhere near "All organics will killed by synthetics, so if you don't want us synthetics to kill you instead pick A,B, or C."
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>>81780352
We didn't see any of this
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>>81778976
is this some fan who had to explain it to everyone or is this the word of huss.
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>>81780352
Vriska died
Terezi went to the new universe???
the Felt faded into irrelevancy after Jake beat them
the sprites did ????
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>>81780354
>my ass
oh andy
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>>81780280
I loved the LE eye animation. How they were rolling. Act 7 looked great, apart from those mmd tier 3D models.

What was the point of the retcon though? And Davepeta and Jasprose. And where was Terezi?
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>>81780274
what was the fucking clam about
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>>81780140
>Adult Karkat is the final boss of Hiveswap
Don't play with my heart, anon.
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>>81778832
>Literally what was the fucking point of the Beforus trolls? Why was any of the retcon shit needed? The retcon shit that fucks up the actual timeline and would actually be relevant to beating LE?
Hussie hated Feferi, so as a "saving throw" for Pisces fans (fuck you Aquarius fans) he invented Meenah, who was a sociopath just like Vriska. Since it was impossible to create her alone, she came with a 12 pack. Bar her and Aradia, everyone was some kind of homestuck fan and fandom parody. Needless to say that Hussie got tired of Meenah after 50 entries and 3 walkarounds.
Retcon shit was needed to bring Vriska back and make her great again, after Hussie got bored with (Vriska) and Meenah

>The current timeline is a fucking infinite paradox loop where caliborn always lives, wins, becomes LE, and fucks up the other sessions
Yes. Putting the kids in that home juju would've probably initially linked us to page fucking one, where John is staring in his room and it's 13.04.

>Where are Vriska, Terezi, Aradia, and Sollux in the new universe?
After getting lazored, their ashes are going towards the black hole

>Wheres the Matriorb? Are the trolls being remade?
I hope not. Those fuckers did enough damage as it is and didn't deserve a second chance.

>Wheres Zillywave or Sawtooth?
Porygon effect. Since the trickster arc was a total failure, everything associated with it gets removed and never mentioned again.

>WHEN THE FUCK DID THE MASTERPIECE FIGHT HAPPEN
Probably later or in a different timeline. Only Hussie knows and he will take it to his grave.
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>>81780284
Well the logo turning white has to mean something at least. So it's that or the kids get teleported to the Masterpiece battle.
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So now that the dust has settled: which girl was best girl?
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>>81780300
What was that thing even? A dating sim? What happened to it and can I date HS characters in it?
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>>81780444
Skull girl.
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>>81780444
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>>81780444
Snowman
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>>81780444
lapis
alt calliope
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>>81780444
Nepeta, obviously
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>>81780444
Roxy

>saves and adopts an alien child out of the goodness of her heart
> also buff and hot
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>>81780468
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Did anyone else feel somewhat underwhelmed in spite of that animation
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>>81780444
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>>81780444
casey
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>>81780444
Aradia, anyone else is factually incorrect
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>>81780487
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>>81780444
They are all shit for being in Homestuck.
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>>81780430
>Probably later or in a different timeline. Only Hussie knows and he will take it to his grave
REREAD THE SEGMENT. It makes it very clear that the B1/2 kids were prepped and leveled thereby meaning after all the B2 shit. It happens after they enter Cherub session.
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>>81780444
Terezi.

There's no way around that
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>>81780500
Ara deserved better so much better
Choking LE was nice tho
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>>81780529
So great she wasn't even in the ENDING HAHAHAHAHHAHAH
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>>81780529
She was smart enough to exempt herself from this shitty end
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>>81780489
>somewhat underwhelmed
welcome to the all night whinge party

guest of honour; your last ass
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>>81780444
Roxy
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Since clearly this original ending no longer works for the monster homestuck has become, I hope one day an insane fan will cut and edit the shit out of homestuck so the ending makes sense. I'm pretty sure you can cut out a lot of extraneous bullshit from act 6.
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>>81780529
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>>81779960
Why did they need to stop Lord English again? It really doesn't look like it changed anything. The whole thing was fucking pointless and would have turned out the same if they just let him blow up everything on his own.
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>>81780368
The last words written are "THE END" dumbdumb.
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retcon power is literally retcon power. it was the moment Homestuck jumped the shark, but it was ambiguous enough at the time that we all wanted to give it a chance to turn out good. it's not.
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>>81779946
I understand that but it uses the exact same effect. Its very likely that it shares its source of power right? For all we know it was made with green sun || Vriskas pirate coat
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>>81780444
Caliborn
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>>81780169
Homestuck 2.0: I Told You (About Stairs) Bro
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So, being a god of a new universe lets you.... uh.... ???
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>>81780298
The Extended Cut DLC was free.
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>>81780444
Roxy
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>>81780618
Play soccer
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>>81780011
Some of these things can just be inferred. Its not too far of a stretch to say the kids tossed those in there after the fighting was done.
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>>81780576
They needed to close the time loop. All time loops must be closed and they closed the biggest one of em all.
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>>81779462
It's like if Lord of the Rings ended when Frodo reaches the top of Mt. Mordor.
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>>81780607
Homestuck 3.33 The Games Will (Never) Stop
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>>81780571
I want someone to hack the website. Dont care what they will replace it with, be it the creepiest HS porn they can find, autistic shipping comics or death threats and rage at Hussie, I just want someone to to something REALLY visible
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>>81780618
Play football.
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>There was no final Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff update

Truly the greatest of crimes.
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did that guy ever start drawing the god tiers here or what
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>>81780055
theres an offline archive that a dude from the...mspa forums had
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>>81777684
>When someone fucks up their magnum opus, it's the final sign of doom.

This pretty much. I still remember how awesome Homestuck was back at the start of Act 5. "[S] Make her pay" will probably go down as one of my personal favorites.

Even up to "[S] Cascade", everything was still super interesting and engaging.

I really do agree that the intermissions had a very heavy hand in killing it. It's incredibly difficult to go back to working on something nearly a year later, and expect to be able to approach it in the exact same mindset, regardless of how long one already has planned out the story in advance.
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has anyone ddos'd mspa yet
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>>81780620
Which only existed in the first place because of the backlash
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>>81780122
Hell, we don't even know where the Ring of Life came from. It's just never explained. All we know is that only one of them ever shows up at a time. Probably because it's a fucking rip off of the ONE ring.

Still, I'm pretty sure Roxy had the Ring of Void last.
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>>81780571
This comic could actually be vastly improved just by removing shit and not adding anything and that's really depressing i think.
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>>81779756
LE was busy.
But actually I doubt LE has a say in this, since it was actually Doc Scratch who initiated it, and Doc Scratch had Lil Hal (13 year old Dirk brain) and the dominant personality.
Going by how Caliborn treated the felt, Lil Hal may do some hypnotic suggestions, but Caliborn ignores it and does his shit regardless of the consequences.
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>>81780444
I'm glad this comic existed just for giving me rose lalonde
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anyone got any webms of caliborn eating his clock
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Quick guys while everyone is in shock this is your chance to make the next homestuck
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Someone should have made the calculations by now. Factoring in all the hiatuses, is homestuck still among the most updated webcomics by pages per day?
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>>81780122
Dirk slapped out of Roxy's hand while they were all being Caucasian.
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guys i'm scared for this to be it
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>>81780740
there's an epilogue coming
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>>81780723
Alright, when in doubt blame Gamzee. Gamzee caught it and gave it to Caliborn later.
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>>81780430
>Wheres the Matriorb? Are the trolls being remade?
>I hope not. Those fuckers did enough damage as it is and didn't deserve a second chance.

There are trolls in the new universe. Remember when Caliborn's/Calliope's dad wiped out the canon fan trolls?
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>>81780723


I still think tumblr fan service ruined the comic
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I stopped reading in 2011 or so. What happened to John, Rose, Dave, Karkat and Kanaya? Only characters I care about.
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>>81780687
I thought that both rings were from the B/W Queen from the B2 session
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>>81777482
Read the fucking comic
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>YFW HUSSIE HAD THIS SHIT RIGGED FROM THE START
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>>81780717
~8000 pages / (7 * 365.25) = ~3.14 pages per day
So, yes
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>Act 6 is shit
EOA6 and ACT 7 WILL REDEEM HOMESTUCK
>EOA6 and Act 7 are shit
THE EPILOGUE WILL FIX EVERYTHING, IT'S OKAY GUYS
>The epilogue is shit
I DON'T WANT TO BE ALONE
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I was about to order something in celebration of HS ending yesterday

THANK THE FUCKING GODS I DIDNT GET ANYTHING TO REMIND ME OF THIS GIGANTIC FAILURE
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>>81780671
Fuck, google doesnt even have a cached view.
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>>81780465
yeah, it was a comedy dating sim where you could date HS characters and some obscure namco characters. the weird thing about it is that it was only playable through a browser and you had to PAY for it. the company that made it closed down and now there's no way to actually play it.
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>>81780717
2556 days and 8121 pages makes it 3.18 pages a day. It seems unlikely to be topped.
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>>81780787
jade vored them
anally
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>>81780818
>Not 3.14 pages a day
Hussie, you hack .
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Why is Lord English the villain if all he does is kill ghosts, when it seems like alt!Calliope literally killed every ghost we have ever seen?
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>>81780755
>It'll take a while to produce
>I'm not in a huge hurry at this point.
I wouldn't expect it for a long time. At least not until after Hiveswap.
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She lived, right? She lived happily ever after and gets to hold hands with someone, right? Right? Guys?
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i'm still doing classpect analyses and quick session analyses if you guys want me to. i think it's helping me calm down.

i'm glad at least johnroxy is canon though, that's the only thing i care about besides dolorosa and classpect autism.

i'm so mad hussie, who could you do this to us?
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>>81778058
>nothing new
>some of this shit looks exactly the same

keep telling urself that
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>>81780800
>>81780818
God bless workaholic early days Hussie.
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>>81780818
>2556
it's 2557 actually
we had two leap years
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>>81780618
Play leg egg
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>>81780782
At least, in the end, Jane is canonically thin as a twig and everyone was basically white. It was his final, muted, FUCK YOU to tumblr.
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>>81777931
The fandom and constant generals essentially ruined the comic, and 4chan as whole to an extent.
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Were these circles always in the Light symbol?
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>>81780782
What do people mean, when they say Caucasians?
John doesn't looks like Hovhannes Egbertyan, to be honest.
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>>81777944
he learned from the ultimate hack
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>>81780812
i spent $50 on merch
i want to kill myself
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>>81780856
Id join you in making theories but I just wanna forget it all
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>>81780138

EXCEPT HE LITERALLY INSULTS YOU FOR WANTING AN ACTUAL ENDING. I NO LONGER HAVE MY PHYSICAL COPY BUT I DISTINCTLY RECALL HIM SAYING SOMETHING TO THE TUNE OF
>BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU'RE A BORING ASSHOLE WHO WANTS EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF ACCEPTING THINGS AS THEY ARE
TO WHICH MY COUNTER-ARGUMENT IS, WELL, FUCK YOU FOR ME DARING TO HAVE GOALS.

BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. THE POINT IS, IF HE WOULD'VE LEFT IT AT THE ORIGINAL ENDING IT WOULD'VE BEEN SHIT OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER.

JUST LIKE THIS ENDING.

>>81780095
YES, I AGREE THAT IS AN ASSUMPTION BUT WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY

>>81780053
JUST LIKE YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE, OTHER THAN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WHEREAS LOGICALLY, THE CAIRO OVERCOAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FIRST GUARDIANS THEMATICALLY. IT'S A JUJU WHICH ARE "SELF-CONTAINED" IF YOU WILL
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>>81780843
he doesn't only kill ghosts, he kills universes, which is antithetical to sburb's purpose of creating them. while it's up in the air whether or not he could kill them faster than sburb players could make them, i'd say it's likely enough that paradox space spat out this five-universe orgy in order to both create and kill him.

or, as some theories i've heard stated, calliope orchestrated EVERYTHING from the background to kill her brother, and homestuck is just the story of her getting revenge by proxy.
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>>81780618
Suck karkat and jades pussy. In a row.
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>>81778788
If he got swindled out of his money, why didn't he ever try to sue the original development team? The Fine Gentlemen or whatever. I'm pretty fucking sure what they did to him broke at least ONE law.
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my wish right now is for the epilogue to be entirely focused on Hussie's character's perspective during this finale. Him floating around the comic as everything ends/explodes/implodes/dissintegrates/ceases to be/addressing all the loose end shit and how he doesn't care about it right before it goes up in smoke
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>>81780908
Oh shut up spongefan
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Can we all migrate to a hiveswap thread on /vg/?

I don't want to leave, /hst/, you guys are my only friends
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>>81780867
Damn, you're right. Still 3.18.

>>81780883
But HSG got Mituna made and Mituna was great, therefore HSG improved the comic. Confirm/deny?
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>>81780881
Jane Feferi and Aradia.

Allowing guest artists to import their head canons was a horrible idea. At least the artists from [S]Collide had the decency to abstain from that.
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>>81780571
The retcon kind of doesn't need to exist.

It feels like this ending was written for the pre retcon world, actually. Make Vriska's eyes white and it could have happened in that timeline. Davepeta and Jasprose don't show up at all, and no ships are confirmed.

I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to make a completely different Act 6 from about Meenahbound onwards and keep act 7. Maybe with a short epilogue to wrap stuff up.
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>>81780946
We can once Hiveswap is substantial enough to have a general.
/vg/ policy is you actually need a game to have a general about it.
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>>81780941
Didn't spongefan die a bunch of years ago?
How old would he be now anyway
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>>81780946
>hivestuck
FUCK that SHIT. Even if the ending was 10/10 I wouldn't look at hivestuck
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>>81780860
>taking inspiration from things makes you a hack

100% agreed. The only worthwhile thing ever made were the original cave paintings, but even those were inspired by things that already existed.
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Canon
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>>81780888
Eggbert seems pretty generically pasty nerd loser white kid to me, but Jade was always very clearly asian. I assume that was before any finite plans about paradox twins and ectobiology were an object. Strider and Lalonde however were always clearly white. Also the entire host of archetypes of the early case were clearly obnoxious 90s-00s white teen stereotypes, so there's really no need to miscast them as arbitrarily diverse ethnicities.
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>>81780802
I was hoping for a drop of like 50 pages or something today.
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>>81780979
We can just pretend to like it!
Joey, guys! Very cute!
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>>81780854
I fucking hope she is dead.

I was hoping for (Vriska) to man up and steal the juju while she was fighting with Hussie.
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>>81778405
paradox space is done, not existing anymore
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thanks fit never showing us Caliborns land or coat alchemization huss!
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>>81781005
Rose is potato. CANON.
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>>81777351
>I HOPE HE'S OK.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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also yesterday when fucking around i met some people doing a rewrite of the story post-gameover without the whole vriska retcon mess and, i mean, i guess it's decent enough to placate me.

http://mspfanventures.com/?s=12003&p=1

>>81780994
the only one i like to get super concrete about is jade because there's so much fucking asian sound-imagery (is there a term for that?) in her songs
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>>81780970
It seemed like the retcon ability was going to be the glitch that defeated Lord English, but alas, Hussie Zahack refused.
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>>81781005
jade is
C U T E
U
T
E
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>>81780885
>these circles
you mean the sun? yes since the very first time eggbert left his house
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>>81781005
lmao
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>>81778832
Do you want to be spoon fed?
Or do you want to actually read the comic and feel satisfied with the ending
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I came here because I wanted to say this.

I dropped out early because this series was convoluted and drawn out. There were too many questions and not enough answers for me to continue to be interested.

Simply put, it got boring for me though overtime, I came back and saw parts of this series here and there, heard discussions about the series from /co/ generals and other places.

Now that I've seen the ending, it's dawned on me that this is almost exactly what happened with Lost. It was never supposed to go on this long but he milked it for all it's worth and gave people a halfassed vague ending that doesn't answer anything nor give a satisfying conclusion and you all paid the price for it. He knew exactly what the reaction would be and he doesn't care because he already has all the money he got from this series, including that crowdfunded game.

So I ask you now, after all these years with this series from the journey to the destination, was it worth it?
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I think a big part of the upset is just how little content there was. Homestuck is all about 'MAXIMUM MAXIMALISM', and yet, after OMEGAPAUSE, we get less than 200 pages, one big co-authored flash which, really, was not that impressive overall, and certainly NOTHING compared to Cascade. Then the actual finale is a single commissioned animation.

And, that's it. There was not a single person who clicked that arrow under [S] Act 7 NOT expecting significantly more content. That's the problem.
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GUYS LETS MIGRATE TO /qa/ /trash/ or /r9k/
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>>81781005
They look deformed.
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>>81781037
>I HOPE HE'S OK
Oh fucking kek I totally forgot about this shit.
Fucking amazing
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>>81780717
to be fair most 'pages' of homestuck are more like a single panel in most comics
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>>81781048
tilt your screen back
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>>81780941

I'M NOT WHOEVER THE FUCK.

I'M THE GUY THAT WANTED CALIBORN/LE FUCKING SHIT UP.

CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW FUCKING BLUEBALLED I AM RIGHT NOW!??!!?

AND I ONLY BECAME A "FAN" A MONTH AGO. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE KIND OF RAGE I'D BE EXPERIENCING.
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>>81781005
Lalondes have ROCKIN' bods
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>>81778100
Tell me your fandom. I'm going to shit all over it for you being the world's biggest faggot. There's probably not room in it with your faggotass in it though.
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>bkew has a reaction video to act 7
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>>81780837

>thatsmyfetish.jpg
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>>81781019
Caliborns land was showed. Its Earth.
Also alchemizing the coat is one of the offscreen things that went right, thats not important.
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>>81781085
>it's an hour long
i don't have a face for this
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>>81781073
?
Bring someone out of the loop up to speed?
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>>81781078
That's just coloration mate
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>>81781064
>all these years
Archival reader here, yes. The ending waas fine if you connect the dots as hussie explicitly suggested you do in an interview.
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Oi am fookin dying here
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>>81780979
As if you aren't going to play it.
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>>81780996
I'm half holding out hope for a surprise 4:13 PM epilogue or (Psyche). The lack of an "End of Act 7" seems suspicious. But it'll probably fall through.


>>81781085
I had to close out before he hit the final ==>. Too much.
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>>81781085
I imagine he starts crying and screaming at the end
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>>81781085
What is the most disappointing reaction? I need something to watch while stuffing my face with regret/disappointment pizza rolls
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>>81780992
Yes, those are all canon characters in the webcomic Homestuck
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>>81781019
We saw LOCAM as it is seen from space.
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>>81781112
Karkat's last words in the series were pinning about Dave
>he gets cucked by Jade
BRAVO HUSSIE
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>all the davekat shippers crying and saying hussie needs to make davekat canon because the davejade shippers are homophobes

This is delicious
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>>81781084
He runs a quest on TGchan
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>>81781085
Can someone make the wemb of his face when the video ends?
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>Jake and Dirk rekindled their friendship
>Jade and Dave can finally be together
>Roxy is Calliopes surrogate mom
>Roxy and John and Calliope are a con air reference
>Rose and Kanaya are still together

>Terezi.........???????????
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>>81781059

THAT'S NOT SPOON-FEEDING YOU PIECE OF HORSE ANUS.

THAT'S CALLED CLOSURE.

SPOONFEEDING IS ASKING "WHO IS THIS GREEN SKULL GUY AND WHY IS THERE A RULE 63 VERSION OF HIM?"

ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ASSHOLE MENTIONED ARE LEGITIMATE QUANDARIES THAT DESERVE A FUCKING ANSWER.
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Draconian Dignitary will never take revenge upon the Condesce for humiliating him in front of the entire online population of Derse.
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Shai' hulud
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>>81781145
>not posting caps
You're not my friend.
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Was Condy's implied presence in Pre Scratch Earth ever explained? No one ever talks about that. She took Alpha earth hostage and prepared the kids for their session but she's still the Batterwitch in Beta Earth.
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>>81781115
No it's a shit ending. Connecting the dots still leaves shit empty and unsatisfying.
It was bland dull and pretty looking, the exact opposite of everything else in the comic
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>>81781161
She's dead, anon.
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>>81781161
Cuckat will take her in while he wanks to dave and Jade
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>>81781115
What interview? Link?
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>>81781179
Seeing them breakdown after their smug asses were handed to them is satisfying, even if it doesn't make up for the ending
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>>81781180
She fucked Colonel Sassacre
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>>81780881
true
i hated the "dave and roxy and rose and jade and all the trolls are black" shit
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>>81781161
Don't you get it?
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>>81781161
Most importantly, this all happened without text.
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>>81781168
THE COMIC ANSWERS ALL OF THESE FUCKING QUESTIONS YOU ILLITERATE BLIND FUCK

THESE QUESTIONS ARE THE MOST BE NINE OBVIOUS SHIT ANYWAY
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I need an alternative for Homestuck.

What's Weaver doing nowadays?
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>>81781161
roxy killed her
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I dug through about three of the threads that went up last night before the update hit to see if the artbro had posted progress on my Bougereaue request. Dunno if it's finished now but cheers dude in any case!
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>>81781064
Hussie wrote Lost was one his favourite shows in an article on his old site (Before it had finished).
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>>81781135

No I mean childpile is canon
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>>81781208
It's been posted around. I don't have a link. He was talking about Act seven and the franchise. He uses the terms riddle and jigsaw a lot if that helps your serach.
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>>81781161
She killed herself to avoid being in a shitty ending.
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>post yfw you waited 7 y e a r s for this
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>>81780958
comfurrrrrmed
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>>81781215
Yeah that much is obvious but why the fuck was she there? Did she hitch a ride into the Troll's freshly made universe when no one was looking?
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>>81781211
>we need davekat to shut up all the people who rightfully hate my ship
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>>81781217
How the fuck can Dave be black? That's not how black hair works. Is he wearing a wig?
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>>81781252
>discomfort post collide was mind powers blaring alarm bells about hussie's plan for the comic
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>>81781258
Most of the character resolutions wrapped up literal years ago.
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So during the battle with Lord English there were certain trolls who completely missed out.

Gamzee
Damara
Aradia
Kurloz

Additionally there were only one Meenah and only one Vriska to show up
I don't believe they died only once in their previous sessions, and from Vriska we know this is definitely not the case.

So were they bitching for not being in charge or what?
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>>81781285
She fucked him, dude
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>>81780984
taking inspiration doesnt mean literally copying a design numbnuts
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I started reading Homestuck in the middle of Act 2. Never posted on this board before. Never took part in any part of the fandom because it seemed autistic. I enjoyed every part of the comic, including the convoluted bullshit and tedious bits because I was given the impression that there would be some kind of payoff.

I'll save you the trouble.

THERE WAS NO FUCKING PAYOFF, THIS WAS A GOD DAMN FUCKING WASTE OF 7 YEARS OF MY LIFE, HOW IS ANYONE DEFENDING THIS FUCKING GARBAGE

THIS IS MOST PATHETIC COPOUT OF ANY FUCKING STORY I HAVE EVER READ

FUCKING PATHETIC
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>>81781230
Fnaf
Patreon stream(apparently? I dunno)
Boxdog updated during april fools
You propably already know Nanquest
Divequest is still not regulary updated
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>>81781304
Oh boy, it's MGSV all over again.
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>>81781315
Anon plz.
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>>81781302
who the fuck cares about "character" "resolutions"
ive been waiting for years to see LE get fucked up in combat
it didnt happen
thats all that matters
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>>81781258
I only waited 8 months, I guess I'm lucky to have started reading it so late.
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>>81780762
Yeah, but it's a pair with the Ring of Life. When one is lost, the other appears. That's how it works.

Caliborn having the ring is a death sentence for Calliope.

>>81780790
Nope. They never explain where the Ring of Life came from. Only that they appear one at a time.
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>>81781161
>>Roxy is Calliopes surrogate mom
When will this fucking meme end they are m a r r i e d gay singularity happened they're holding hands because they like-like each other they knew each other longer than John and Roxy did they're gay lovers come ON
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>>81781308
Aradia probably ran from the black hole because she wants to be alive.

Damara and Kurloz worked for LE, they wouldnt fight him.
>>
So why was a door appearing in Vriska's juju? Were John & company going to walk through it immediately after the ultimate alchemy?
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>>81781069
i feel /x/ is the most appropriate seeing as how we have a ton of ghosts and a spoopy skellington
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>>81781343
Fuck off you name fag piece of shit. John Roxy was foreshadowed way back in B1. Get your disgusting repulsive skull shit OUT OF HERE.
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>>81781339
I figured the Ring with No Orbs was a queen ring from the Noble's sterile session, since it's unprototyped.
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>>81781343
she's a small child

roxy is Mom and wants a family

connect the dots
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>>81781343

Calliope is a literal CHILD, namefag.

Do you support pedophilia?
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>>81781064
Knowing the ending, if someone asks me if it is worth looking up homestuck, I'd say no.
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>>81781308
Well, Gamzee and Kurloz are working for LE and both have only one incarnation.
Aradia is a strange miss, but there's only dead Aradiabots.
Damara just wasn't willing to cooperate.
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>>81781308
Makaraz and medigo serve LE
Aradia is just aradia
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>>81781302
>Most of the character resolutions wrapped up by vriska via retcon
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>>81781245
I guess it's a consolation that all of them are together. Not as satisfying as it could of been though.

>>81781304
It's more like pic related.
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>>81781211
These people can suck my dick
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>>81781354
They got trapped in the Juju remember?
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Why is the last arrow ==> and not ====>?
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>>81781380
no anon she supports xenophilia anon
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>>81781323
I feel the same.
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>>81781308
Gamzee wasn't there because he's still alive. Even after being cut in half. I believe that the clown is a universal constant. He won't go the fuck away
Kurloz sat the battle out because he thought LE would win
Aradia wanted to see everything break apart.
Aranea will never ever be relevent again
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>>81781389
For that last time the series was SEL not NGE
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>>81781308
>>81781350
>>81781384
>>81781385
Fuck I didn't meant Aradia, I meant Aranea.
>>
Aradia is going to be the plot device that gets Vriska out of the dying universe.
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>>81781417
immediately after the ultimate alchemy?
>>
Did doodleanon ever drawed all those god tiers? I feel asleep with rage
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Did doodleanon ever drawed all those god tiers? I feel asleep with rage
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From 0 to 10 how good ending was?
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>>81780883

HSG had never negatively impacted the comic in any way. And I doubt you can point to a single example of it doing so.
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>>81781437
Aranea decided to become a villain, so Hussie didn't want to show her doing a heroic sacrifice.

Cronus ended up more heroic.
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>>81781424
why would it be ====>?
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>>81777758
this
I was really expecting hussie to post the rest of it by making us play some sort of game by looking for clues on the rest of the comic to unlock the real ending or some shit
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>>81781440
I sincerely fucking hope she isn't. Vriska was point blank during the pocketing. Unless the B1 made time for a troll retreat before really kicking on then it makes no sense.
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>>81781460
-413
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>>81781460
4/13
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>>81781460
-413
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>>81781343
Gay singularity didn't happen though.
Meenvris is dead. Dirkjake is dead. Scourgecest is dead. Davekat is still in limbo, and is pretty much dead. That leaves only Kanrose, and that makes no singularity.
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>>81781384
What happened to the Gamzee who wrote the Honk code and prematurely killed Karkat and Terezi, before they even entered the session?
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>>81781460
0
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>>81781161
Terezi didn't find the door and fell of the lilypad.
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>>81781460
4/13
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>>81781258
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>>81781460
6
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Whoever's the last one out, lock the door for good.
I want to sleep forever.
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>>81777796
>>81777797
>>81777850
>>81777859
faggots new annoying janitors deleted this, what was the post?
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>>81781498
canon
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>>81781476
>>81781485
>>81781488
johnmind
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>>81781446
Caliborn's claymation Masterpiece shows the Beta kids being trapped in the Juju.

When did this happen in the Kids timeline? Unstated, but according to Caliborn, they looked prepared. I believe they lived out a life int their new universe first. Then decided to finally close the time loop.

They went there, got trapped for a longass time, then got out to kill LE at the end.
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>>81781460
As an ending to the kid's story of playing a game and creating a universe. 8/10

As an ending to the story and plot we we're following. 3.5/10
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>>81781463
Yeah, but that was only one Aranea.
One of thousands that are possibly existing in the bubbles.
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>>81781424
The Beta kids fucking died.
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>>81781513
He was asking people to check his digits.
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>>81781509
Don't forget to take it out on hussie first =^)
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>>81781228

OKAY THEN PLEASE TELL ME WHERE GCATAVROS IS RIGHT NOW
>>
How do you feel right now /hst/?

I'm just really dissapointed, empty and tired
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>>81781513
a get
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>>81781461
Even the dildos didn't work
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>>81781375
I figured that too, but while Aranea has some idea where the Ring of Void came from, she has no idea where the Ring of Life came from.

Our only knowledge as to its origin is that Hussie had it when he proposed to Vriska.
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>>81781350
>>81781385
Wait, Damara serves Lord English?
Did I just forget this part? I knew about Kurloz and I knew Damara was the one who scratched the session and went kind of crazy, but was it ever outright stated she served LE?
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>>81781424
It's been ====> since the betas got to the B2 session. Each dash represents a player in the session. The beginning of the series had ==>, and Hivebent had ======>.
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>>81781258
One thing I learned today.
Andrew Hussie is not Eiichiro Oda
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>>81780930

Legal fees are expensive, and it's entirely possible the legalese of the contract between them allowed it through some loop hole. We don't know the full story and details, so it's hard to say why there was no legal action.
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>>81781460
1
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>>81781176
gesundheit
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>>81781460

5-6? The animation was great but I dunno, I'm not too happy with the lack of resolution. See what the epilogue adds I guess.
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>>81781489
Davekat ain't in limbo, Karkat's frowning, Dave's monogamous
Even the davekat shippers know it's gone. The realization finally caught up with them and it's the one good thing that came out of this
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>>81781522
why didn't hussie show that????
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FUCK me, I actually am starting to like the ending.

Besides the no Terezi bit.
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>>81781461
tumblr did though
remember caucasiangate
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>>81781380
Not only is Calliope a child, she's a separated Cherub. A child who will never grow up or mature.
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>>81781535
I can believe that.
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>>81781460
1 for happy rosemary and 1 for looking pretty makes it a 2/10 for me
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>>81781603
Because the comic is about weird time shit. We've seen part of the ending before act 7.
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>>81781578
You're just learning that? Don't even compare the two, m8.
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>>81781380
>>81781379
They're all children. Hussie never actually confirmed an age for her according to Shelby (who asked him) and there was a line early on in Caliborn's journey that pins him as a teen which could ostensibly make her at MOST 3 years younger than Roxy.

>>81781615
Why the heck wouldn't she mature, at worst Calliope ends up dating a midget

>>81781371
John calling Mom pretty is fine and all but a lot of shit got foreshadowed and went nowhere. Guess what else got foreshadowed? She gave Calliope the ring she intended for her future betrothed. Really weird she'd make a point of that, almost like Hussie was preemptively writing them together

>>81781489
Dirk and Jake are playing soccer which in this case is a metaphor for gay sex. It's all coded and it's all singularity.
>>
I'm pretty sure this was Andrew Hussie's social experiment to see what happens when horrifying millennials experience the same existential nightmare/dread as nerds who were excited for the Star Wars prequels
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>>81781602
I think there's maybe two instances ever of Karkat not frowning.
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>>81781603
He wants people to figure it out for themselves.

It's pretty stupid.
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>>81781568
She implied this to Rufioh, but this was more out of spite to Meenah and the entire group as a whole.
Whether she actually pulled it of, especially after knowing what he did to her in the A2 universe I doubt, she has that low of self-respect.
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>>81781568
She says something about the glorius lord punishing you skank ass when she talks to Meenah. Propably Kurloz mindvoodoo since he is the only influence LE had on the pre-scratch session
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>>81781080

This has always been known. Look at Mom. Lalondes have curves for days and booties that don't quit.
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>>81781549
From what we can guess from the troll's session all sprites are supposed to die at the end of the game

The troll's session is the only vanilla session we've seen through the game (all sprites mysteriously died)
Even in the kids's session Jadesprite said that she felt compelled to travel to the battle field during the reckoning. This is probably a programmed death sequence for sprites

I'm just going to go ahead and guess that all the sprites are currently dead or out in paradox space somewhere.
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>>81781649
>Why the heck wouldn't she mature,

READ THE COMIC
>>
>Hussie just ended homestuck in the simplest way possible
The goddamn madman.

Was anything that could have been answered cleared up at all? Like, I don't think the ending doesn't work, but it doesn't feel like the massive conclusion to homestuck I was expecting, maybe because it all happened in literally thirty minutes.

Still. I can't believe it's actually over. Homestuck is actually finished. I almost wish the ride never came to an end.
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>>81781649
Pardon, *Roxy ends up dating a midget
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>>81781460
>writing anything else but 4/13
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>>81781669
>>81781549
Any more questions?
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>>81781651
Yeah but frowning while on a picnic in paradise with your supposed boyfriend?
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>>81781649
>Why the heck wouldn't she mature,
For the exact same reason Caliborn can't. Cherubs need to absorb their other half to properly mature. Calliope here is still stuck with swirls.
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>>81781688

>Still. I can't believe it's actually over. Homestuck is actually finished.

Not quite yet, he's planning to add proper epilogues "eventually"
>>
at the very least, the shot of LE's 8-ball eyes sliding into place was cool as hell, i'll give them that.
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>>81778795
I'd have put up with anything for the sake of justice. But Vriska basically looked Karma in the face and flipped it the bird, and GCATavros is probably suffering along somewhere like the miserable, depowered monstrosity he is.
I guess even then my expectations were too high. Still a gut-wrenching feeling, though.
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>>81781649
>Dirk and Jake are playing soccer which in this case is a metaphor for gay sex
First of all, it's called "Football".
And this statement is just nonsensical.
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>>81781551
like i'm bleeding
hurts good desu at least I'm feeling something
>>
So the sprites are dead as hell right?
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>>81781707
He's frowning because he's sharing Dave with Jade. It's a threesome ending where everyone involved is fucking each other. Jade and Karkat having good chemistry didn't stop being a thing.
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What the fuck was the deal with the clock again? I literally don't remember anything about it other than the judgement cast upon god tiers when they die.
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>>81781688
Give us character interactions, tell us what they're actually doing. For fuck's sake man, if you introduce shipping, at least give us conclusions

Then stuff like
What happened to the sprites
What involves the fight with Caliborn
What about the matriorb
What about the repopulation machines
Why is Karkat in a park being a cuck to Dave/Jade and not out raising the trolls like Echinda said he would
Where's Terezi
Where's Vriska
WHERE'S TEREZI
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>>81781649
>k and Jake are playing soccer which in this case is a metaphor for gay sex
As brazillian i can confirm this
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>>81781602
So when ipgd said Hussie said Davekat was canon, they were talking about Davepeta?
>>
WHAT WORLD IS THE CITY ON

??????
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>>81781649
>Dirk and Jake are playing soccer which in this case is a metaphor for gay sex
This is what Murricans actually believe
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>>81781765
Yeah, but Jade and Karkat have no romantic chemistry.
Jade isn't interested in Karkat, and Dave is monogamous
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>>81781765
>where everyone involved is fucking each other
You realize they aren't even 17 yet you creep?
>>
When did the masterpiece happen?
Do we just have to assume the kids all decided to go kill LE as a kid for some reason and then were stranded on a barren planet/ absorbed into the juju forever?

That's a pretty bleak ending.
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>>81781669
>>81781706

OKAY, BUT YOU'RE GUESSING. YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW.

WHEN YOU FINISH WATCHING THE GOOD STAR WARS MOVIE, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE CHARACTERS. IT IS SAID, EITHER EXPLICITLY OR IMPLICITLY.

THERE'S NO GUESSWORK INVOLVED. YES, THE THEORY IS NOT BAD, BUT I CAN SAY THAT GCATAVROS USED HIS SPRITE POWERS TO KEEP HIS FIRST GUARDIAN POWERS AND THAT HE TURNED INTO LORD ENGLISH.

WHY THE FUCK NOT, I'M JUST GUESSING WITHOUT STRONG EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT UP. SAME AS YOU.
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>>81781604
Welcome to me a few hours ago. May I ask what interpretation you've taken of the events
Is it by chance the closed loop?
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>>81778832
You're doing god's work, man.
Well, no, technically you're doing Hussie's work.
But you know what I mean.
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how u want ur karkat f a m
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>>81781767
the clock is what decides a god tier's mortality - without a clock arm (correct term?) it can't swing to just or heroic and judge caliborn if he were to die. I think that alone would make him immortal in the game's rules, but him breaking the thing was just extra icing on top of the fuck-cake - his death can NEVER be judged as just or heroic, or judged at all, therby assuring him immortality by the game's rules.

he's exploiting a glitch, anon.
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>>81781783
Yeah
He mean Davekat like Davecat, sorry.
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>>81781783
Dave was the intermediary the whole time
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>>81778006
It was the ring JOHN wanted to give to the person HE'D marry
unless roxy also said the same
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>>81781804
We saw the same kind of "flirting" between Karkat and Jade as we did between Karkat and Dave
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>>81781792
Well, it seems to be earth, but as for the incarnation, I'm not sure, though the way it is staged, it seems like B2.
>>
I smell trolling.

This can't be the ending. I'm in denial.

Hussie is fucking with us. He will release Act 8 in a few hours. Wait and see.
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>>81781737
I wish I could say the same. There are no tears. No sadness. I look upon all that is unresolved with this ending, and there's just one thing that comes to mind.

Given how everything before it was shitting on the idea of resolving character arcs or telling a good story, I really couldn't have expected anything better.

I had hopes but I never got them up. We all knew it'd be shit ever since the Retcon came into play, and it only went downhill from there.
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>>81781819
Yeah. Either they close the loop when they have fulfilled their lives to secure the future of their universe, or it's another timeline of kids . Either way is pretty nice.
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>>81779946
Yeah, but he got rid of the coat prior to the fight, and if the post-Cascade flash was any indication, he uses Green Sun powers to summon it up when he needs it.
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>>81781230
Mainly on /5N@F/ and rarely /utg/
Notapaladin is still alive and well so that kinda fills the void
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>>81781783
Yes.
He storyboarded this four years ago, that's why Vriska is in the dreambubbles (she would have been dead), and that's why there's no Davekat
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>>81781852
We have been. In a few hours you will learn to accept it as many here have, perhaps even begin to like parts of it.
>>
Hiveswap killed Homestuck. The drama and time that was dedicated it slowed Hoemstuck to a crawl and most people just didn't have the patience for it. by the time it came back too many had been turned away or gone to something else, not too mention all the stress it likely caused Hussie probably shifted the story quite a bit.
>>
comedy gold
>>
So wait

Caliborn's soul is in the fucking void, spreading its influence into every Sburb session... somehow ? and he's manifesting himself into them... somehow ? And then supposedly breaks the universe everytime. Is that what's happening ? That villain was incredibly nebulous, most of the characters didn't even meet him directly.
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>>81781846
And neither amounted to anything. Jade outright stated she wasn't interested in Karkat
>>
opinions on the thought that the kids on the new earth are

a: a vision and everything went wrong
b: copies of the originals
c: the originals themselves

?

i prefer b because it makes it feel kind of bittersweet while a feels too cruel.
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>>81778301
Knight of Life
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>>81781873
THEN WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT OF THE RETCON IF VRISKA COULD HAVE STAYED DEAD ANYWAYS?
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>>81777673
I guess?
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>Hivebent confirms that the sprites die when a new universe is made

>somehow ARquius is around to become part of Scratch and English

PLOT

HOLE
>>
>tfw Homestuck is the reason I made friends in high school
>tfw without it I would've been a loner the whole time
>tfw this fact came back to me when watching the finale

I can't function right now f a m
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>>81778301#
Bard of Doom
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>>81781895
something something Cal something something Doc Scratch something something already here
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>>81781916
Put it in the bucket
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>>81781913
TO MAKE DAVEKAT
OH WAIT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN
DAVEPETA?
IRRELEVANT
JASPROSE?
SAME.

IT LITERALLY DID NOTHING.
HAHAHA
>>
I haven't had this amount of WHAT since the ending of Stone Ocean
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>>81781902
a or c. it can't be b, john's retcon powers made it so that only ONE of him could exist across time and space, so it's not possible that there's a copy of himself. and why would it be copies? where did the copies come from? i don't understand.
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>>81781814
Secret Bad Ends are the best ends.

We've seen the entire comic (which is about creating a universe) up to this point, so deciding to kill Caliborn must have happened after the universe creation.

You could interpret it as a happy ending if you want though. John retcon zaps out of the black hole range, go back to the masterpiece session after the alpha kids banish lil cal, and zaps back to their created universe.

Of course this is all bullshit speculation, since that's what happens in ambiguous endings where you're forced to infer things yourself. Goddamnit Hussie.
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>>81781916
There was a pre-retcon ARquius. Which actually mades me remember erisol could still have survived.
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>>81781817
Sure anything could happen really.
But using evidence from the comic we can make guesses about all of these questions and assume what happens. We can assume that the sprites (probably) died. We can assume that the ring of void appeared out of the void to caliborn like it did to Roxy. We can assume that LE is defeated

After all homestuck is just a story of kids in houses and that story is over.
There has been alot of interesting things we've seen along the way like a big angry skull monster and a green sun but that's not part of our story. That's a totally different adventure we will never get to see in it's entirety. And that's really cool to just think about.
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Never forget those who didn't make it.
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>>81781895
>into them... somehow
through a little cal that is made from caliborn and eq every cherub session
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>>81781902
>b: copies of the originals
That's what they've been ever since the Retcon.
>>81781913
It was all so Hussie didn't need to actually resolve any character arcs in a satisfying manner.
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>>81778478
The journey is still more important, sorry. Anyone can go from A to B but we need development.
>>
R O S E W I L L N E V E R P L A Y T H E R A I N
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>act 7 only has 127k views on youtube

homestuck confirmed daoots
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>>81781872
whos Notapaladin? Is he an old drawfag like Weaver or?
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>>81781323
This tbth. I waited until the end of Homestuck to post on this board, and now I'm here with a boiling rage.

Seriously, how did he finish this animation and think to himself, "This is suitable, this is a good place to end the story."
>>
WHERE IS

T
E
R
E
Z
I
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>>81781979
this makes me sad
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>>81781934
>in highschool
Oh shit it hadn't even crossed my mind that the stupid underage garbage that jumped on board the bandwagon during the grotesque troll shipping influx are actually old enough to be the intended audience of Homestuck when it started. Do you think these kids ever realized they were being made fun of and parodied and that they weren't suppoed to relate to all the bullshit the characters fret over?
>>
Who is the biggest cuck?
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>>81781979
HUSSIE
A
C
K
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>>81781960
that was me and I was just kidding, I'm still here

in the dream bubbles
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>>81781902
c) -> cherub session-> training -> Caliborns master piece-> lil cal/LE made-> next sessions -> LE corruption -> a2/a1/b1 -> LE dream bubble assualt. Caliope session wipe -> Cherub session
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>>81781979
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>>81781979
what is the deal with this child
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>>81782006
karkat easily
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>>81782006
the MSPA reader
>>
How the fuck did one person managed to do a fucking anime all on her own and make it look so good

and how the fuck did hussie managed to screw what could've been the best thing on homestuck so badly?
>>
>>81781304
At least we SAW Sheev get defeated.
>>
>>81782006
Well I mean, Karkat obvious
Terezi and now Dave?
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>>81781677
>>81781718
I can get why she might not physically age but she isn't a stubborn and steadfast little prick like Caliborn and it's not like she's in the dreambubble echo chambers where development as a person stagnates (except weirdly for (Vriska), kind of a contradictory message when contrasted with the Beforans). It's an interesting topic of discussion for cherubs in general, but Caliborn jumping the gun on his own development might not have affected her all that greatly since she's probably a very unique case for cherubs as it is.

>>81781734
It is, I'm just defending the only thing I can about this update fervently
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>>81782006
Hussie
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>>81782006
us
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>>81781979
Her whole character was about rebelling against the game, she never was going to do her fucking quest.
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>>81782027
lapis pls
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I'm so pissed about the sprites because I was one of the very few people who thought they were fascinating and that they were going somewhere but nope, even I was let down in the end
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>>81782043
it's the person that did A Lullaby for Gods, so, I guess that's what they can do with what pumpkin funding (what funding? ha ha) and a lot of time and a direction, or something.
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>>81781960
He's in a better place now
>>
>>81782004
Yes, we realized it when Hussie did the "weh" shit.
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>>81781989
Some anon who does quest threads on /v/
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>>81781979
What was Dave's planet quest?
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If homosuck had a classpect, it would be the "Waste of Time".
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>>81781871

Except if you look at Collide, you'll see that it vanishes with his prismatic energy.

Not to mention that it constantly flashes with his type of energy.
>>
I just wish there were more homestuck porn
not the drawn stuff
but like. Real porn. Slutty cosplays and such
>>
>karkat dies of old age loving nobody
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>>81782065
I totally forgot about this character jesus christ
>>
>>81782065
You're the only one how saw the potential in the sprites
Not the only one to be let down
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>>81781973
Well, we retconned three years of that fucking journey. I don't care about bullshit like "ultimate selves". That shit doesn't fly in a story unless there's some actual relevance.

Now I finally understand why the fusion sprites existed. Just to give us that shoddy explanation and tell us that it doesn't matter if the characters never experienced anything or resolved their problems, because some version of them -did-.

Guess what? In some alternate universe, Homestuck had an amazing ending and never went to shit, so it doesn't matter if this version we have here sucks. Another version of you got to enjoy the whole fucking thing being great.

Aren't you satisfied with that?
>>
Hey guys. The final link changes back from ====> to ==>. Four kids. Just saying.
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>>81782043
Well for a start it took an entire year and a lot of shortcuts were taken, like the battlefield being CG
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>>81782084
Sword forging. I think Davesprite actually finished it.
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>>81782096
there is, some good stuff too
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>>81782110
Beta kids die in the fight with Lord English.
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>>81782091
It would be all kinds of Waste.
It is better spent playing Munchkin and turning that into a Homestuck-esque story.
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>>81782096
Everyone is like 13-16
/tv/ pls go
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>>81782099
>Karkat will be the first to die because of his shitty blood.

>Gamzee will be the last
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>>81782147
where tho
>>
So basically Dave became Prison Gay for Karkat when all he had to choose from were two lesbians and Terezi, but as soon as he rediscovered Jade he turned straight again?
>>
Okay so, I cannot believe no one's picked up on this yet but, Hussie has posted an edit to his last message on the website.

"If you're curious about whether there will be anything resembling an epilogue to this ending, yes, I've been thinking about that for some time. It'll take a while to produce though, whatever specific form it ends up taking."
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Someone draw cute John/Roxy feat Calliope right now
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>>81782091
Waste of Life
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>>81782134
Wasn't it actually pulling a Welsh sword out of a rock?

As far as I remember, neither he nor his sprite ever pulled it off, always broke it in two.
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>>81782174
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>>81782174
slowpoke.jpg
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BKEW right now.
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>>81782174
Come on, man. I don't know if this is bait or what, but you're like 8 hours late to the party. Everybody saw that last night, you dongus.
>>
WHAT
>DOES
BLOOD
>DO
THO
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>>81782194
Who is bkew?
>>
>>81782049
Caliborn may have been stubborn and steadfast, but he announced his intent to suffer to grow stronger and mature. It wasn't like he refused to be an adult or anything.

Besides, everyone pampers Calliope and tells her that she's perfect just the way she is and doesn't need to try to do anything or contribute at all. Bitch isn't going to mature under those conditions.
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>>81782174
>no one has picked up on this
Kek, fuck off m8, you're late to this party.
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>>81782190
Okay so why is everyone still bitching about the ending and saying "That's it?! That can't be it! I refuse to believe it!"
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>>81782174
We know.
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>>81782084
Pull Caledfwlch from the stone and have Hephaestus fix it.

he talks about it with grimbark jade
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>>81782196
nothing
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>>81781085
You can actually see how heartbroken he was. I feel sorry for him for thinking about homestuck more than Hussie.
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>>81782196
unions, bonds between people and all that.
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>>81782175
draw snake callie penetrating Roxy's mouth and ass and playing with her nips while john fucks her pussy
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>>81781953
Then why the fuck was so much time spent on it.
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>Vriska died

So did Terezi kill herself?
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>>81782174
>10 years later
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>>81782183
I think he was always meant to break it and he was always meant to reforge it. Didn't Dave speculate as much in one of the chat logs? It's been so long, I don't remember
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>>81782196
carries energy to muscles among other things
>>
what the fuck was that
What happened? The frog became the universe, vriska opened the juju and.....?????
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I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

I MUST MURDER KARKAT

I JUST WANT TO FREE HIM
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