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Homestuck: EOA6 Edition

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Well, how was it?
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>>81510123
Are the threads being taken down
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>>81510151
Nah, they're just reaching limit.
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Anyone got a good extract of the Condesce fisting Rose in the gut?
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>>81510151
Don't know.
This is the only one up right now, and it was the only one when I made it.
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Dirk's katana broke and dave used time powers and clover has run out of luck
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Is this the thread we're using now?
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>>81510176
nah but I have this
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Roxy's generic object combos were rad as fuck.

Best girl confirmed.
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>John is the only prospit kid that gets a sick fraymotif circle

And Terezi.
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What will the next update be?
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If you don't think Tavros practically tapdancing on LE's face isn't the hypest shit ever then get the fuck out
I had never imagined he had the courage to do that. Not to mention LE beat the shit out of him not long before
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I've been listening to Heir of Grief on repeat since the update
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>>81510227
Davekat making out
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what is holding the curtains?
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>>81510123
Medium
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F

https://youtu.be/crF1tUx2nI8
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>>81510227
Intermission 3.
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>>81510223
Those fraymotifs are the bomb shiggidy.

Makes me want to run an online tabletop SBURB simulation campaign.
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>>81510227
>caliborn muddles through six new sub-sub-acts
>only 5 acts of homosuck so far
????
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>>81510246
he can be saved right
he was before
right, guys?
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>>81510256

Makes me wish we were getting an actual SBURB RG, instead of whatever the fuck Hiveswap has been reduced to.
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the dad crocker part was hype as fuck
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>your daughter will never spaz out while summoning skeletons
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>>81510265
This was foreshadowed in the walkarounds when Rufioh talked about how he got a robo horse body
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I really don't understand why the striders and Terezi felt the need to interven in the Jack battle.

Couldn't they have sit it out and maybe take on the one who survived if necessary.

Seems to be they went through a lot of unnecessary trouble...
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watching it yet again was a good choice
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>>81510318
was thinking of that too
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>>81510318
Just following vriskas shitty orders. That and they had no idea what intentions robojack had.
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>>81510176
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>>81510318
nah would have taken too long. everyone needed to kill their boss ASAP before LE shows up
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What was she doing here? Just being more distracting?
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>>81510318
>English Jack kills Slick
>they now have to fight English Jack armed with English's cane AND Crowbar's crowbar AND rainbow lasers without the benefit of Slick as a distraction
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>>81510360
Tags: Mindbreak, Torture, BDSM, Yuri, Ahegao, futa?
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>>81510360
Thanks.
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>>81510318
>>81510327
>>81510341

Considering the first thing Slick intended to do, before seeing Union Jack, was get his cronies out to attack some kid he's never met, it's safe to say that Slick was not going to be friendly.
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This vriska has never been hit on by AH before. She has no idea what the orangeman wants.
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>>81510386
just making sure that everyone knows that she's as important as any other rose around
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>>81510414
It would be just a freindly stab!
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>>81510423
didn't he propose to her
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>>81510437
He proposed to vriska. This is (vriska) hes bugging and has never been dead before.
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>>81510223
Light continues to have the coolest symbol
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can we just appreciate how good the opening part was with Creata playing in the background?

I mean, that shit got me really excited for the rest of the flash
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>>81510437

Wasn't that (Vriska)?
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fraymotifs are OP as fuck though
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>>81510431
Yeah, except with bullets instead of knives.

Wait, if Doze was to use that shotgun, would the pellets be slow as well?
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>>81510437
That was (vriska)
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>>81510462
(Vriska) is the dead Vriska.

Alive Vriska is Vriska.
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>>81510231
>A5A2
>Tavros is armed with nothing more than Snowman's lance and shitty robot legs
>Vriska has a legendary weapon, God Tier luck powers, flight, conditional immortality
>And she can mind control him whenever she wants
>Even though he has no chance in hell Tavros decides he's going to try and kill her anyway.
>For the sake of his friends.

Reminder that if you think Tavros taking on LE was out of character you haven't been paying attention.
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>>81510479
Especially Mind Time

Considering that Terezi isn't god tier.
Unless remembering everything lets her access those abilities.
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>>81510510
I thought that Tavros taking on LE was fucking AWESOME and really great for him as a character.

But he's going to die.
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okay but forreal why was jade fucking useless
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>>81510511
What did that one even do tho?

It like, merged multiple timelines somehow? How does that work and what does it do?

Like, I kinda get it and it was cool visually but I'm not sure it makes sense.
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>>81510123
Isn't Can's ability to punch someone into next week?

Is that retconned now?
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>>81510360
shit, that one looked brutal
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>>81510360
>when the update hits
>in the chest, specifically
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>>81510553
I thought it would be to look and access each timeline then merge them to gain the most favourable result into reality, one where Dirk is alive.

(why can't they just make the enemies dead)
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>>81510556
He's able to punch someone through the wall of the panel, that's how it's always been. Just so happened that in the felt's mansion the panels were on top of a calendar.
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>>81510553
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How did The Condesce die so quickly?
I guess Gamzee is canonically the most OP troll
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>>81510551
She was just there to look cute.
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>>81510553

According to the artist, neither they nor Hussie actually defined what it does. It just revived Dirk, any logical reason for that comes later.
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>>81510581
I thought that was only because dave used time powers too
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>>81510601
So it's just shits and/or giggles?

I can live with that.
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>>81510606
Yes the fraymotif is what is being discussed, specifically the time/mind ones.
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> touhou reference
homestuck confirmed for bros
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>>81510639
That undertale thing felt forced
What even happened there
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>>81510591

I feel kinda bad for Gamzee though, being thrown around in that fridge for half the flash. That image of him sobbing while looking beaten up kinda just drove the pity home
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>>81510659

That would be because it was in fact rather forced.
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>>81510680
No it was funny, because Gamzee is awful.
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>>81510659
davepeta dodging almost all of LE's attacks like a pro i guess
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>>81510553
Mind players can see different outcomes while time players can take you back in time so you can work your way towards a desired outcome. If they gad a light player to help them they could easily see what sets of moves takes them to best outcome but without one they have to manually test them out and switch until they can go down the best road they can.
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we all know who the real star of the flash was
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One thing that I'm not certain about, because there was a lot of stuff happening during the UA fight - was Speed Slick fighting UA, or was he fighting both the kids and UA? Too much shit going on during that fight.
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>>81510718
some eri once told me the wworld wwas gonna roll me
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>>81510718
Cannon best father
keeps jobber son from dying
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>>81510659
Le bad time lord skeltal
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>>81510718
Serenity?
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Wait
What happened to Ms. Paint? Tell me Jake didn't hurt the dame
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>>81510639
Not gonna lie but I loved that. LE Undertale dlc when
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>>81510744

Both of them. Killed Dirk, remember?
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>>81510553
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>>81510766

Right, with the gun version of the staff. Though I saw it more as an accident.
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>>81510744
UA?
>>81510761
Probably working on reviving Spades.
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>>81510718
His job here is eri-done
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>>81510761
Well the Dame lost her man so maybe it is better that way. WHY DID SLICK HAVE TO DIE FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>81510659
The heart player turned into a heart. How hard is that to understand.
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>>81510770
This is Jojo's bizarre adventure level of bullshit
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>>81510778

He definitely paused right beforehand, but shot anyway. So you could see it more as 'you weird kids aren't my target but you're kind of in the way anyway'.
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John felt really weak in this flash
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>>81510783
Ugh, UJ of course.

Sorry, I'm posting right before I head to class, and I'm still not fully awake.
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>>81510718
>>81510033
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>>81510770
Now I just need to know what that multiple soulsuck thing Dirk and Dave tried on English Jack was.
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>>81510784
You mean his work is ogre.
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>>81510793
See >>81510590
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>>81510123
Bretty good, I thought. But it felt like it didn't have the same kind of wham moments Cascade had.
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>>81510813
He was jobbing it to let the girls have a good time.
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The undertale refrence ruined the flash for me.

Is this what it feels like to be triggered?
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>>81510813
He's saving up his energy for the final boss.
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>>81510832
Just looked like dave was timelocking UJ to make it easier. Only other thing I can think of is it was speeding up the succ since it takes awhile like when DreamBrainDirkn took forever with arenea
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>>81510872
Nah, you just have autism. Slight difference.
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>>81510856
Yeah, no big plot twists happened. I was only like 'woah' when people died and when serenity turned up.

Although this flash was really nothing like cascade,not until the final part at least.
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FUCKING REMOVE KARKAT

WHY THE FUCK DOES HE EXIST????????
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>>81510872
Yes.

Even though it didn't ruin it for me, it was definitely the "we are going there now?" part of the flash.


it just reminded me that undertale was an ultimately more satisfying work of fiction than homestuck is.
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>>81510872
Why would a reference take such a terrible toll on you? Homestuck is full of references.
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How exactly did Gamzee get to the battle again?
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>>81510872
It was a fun wink from the big man AH to his old pal Radiation
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are we actually gonna get some more good homestuck porn before it ends
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>>81510861
>tfw your girl gets the killshot
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What was the song playing when Jake was fighting the felt?
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But guys, guys -- we just got to see unprototyped Jack Noir for the first time since Act 4. Shit was hype as fuck.
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>>81510783
Easy enough.
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>>81510199
Nah, Karkat just figured how to exploit the grey areas.

Clover basically has defensive luck against anything that would leave with with serious/lasting pain, injury or death. Tieing up all his limbs, or wopping him on the nose with a newspaper, is fine.

Tying up Clover is thematic with the Blood aspect, which is about bonds.

Dirk's blade breaking is significant. Was it Dave's loyalty to Dirk that let him split the blade? It would fit the Heart aspect. Dirk let himself be split.
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So did anyone else catch the fact that Caliborn was actually responsible for killing TWO Yaldabaoths in one flash?

Also I hope they didn't need Dirk's house or planet for anything more to win the game...
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Didn't think the Undertale reference was necessary. But it was short.

>>81510964
Is this a screenshot from the video? Hardly any piece of contributor art seems to have been uploaded by them.
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>>81510872
"oh, it's an undertale reference, that's stupid"
and then that was it
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>>81511018
Well they already completed the ultimate alchemy didn't they?
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>>81510999
Dirk's sword is a zilly weapon, representing cherubs. Dave's sword is a cueball weapon. It's the one weakness.
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>>81510964
>tfw so happy you forgot your eyes
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>>81511018
>TWO Yaldabaoths in one flash?
Elaborate?
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the fights looked like shitty mugen characters

condy on saltybet when?
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>>81511050
There was a yaldobaldo on that planet, and most of the planet is gone now.
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>>81510926
There's a difference between having shrek in the background moving so quickly many people won't even notice him and a +5 second segment that is exactly like the thing you're referencing.
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>>81510123
>Well, how was it?
Better than sex
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>>81510919
>>81510999
We finally found the Serket Destroyer.

God, I am crying right now. No more shitty mary sues getting away with everything.
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>>81510964
Roxy is best girl.
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>>81511068
I forgot that Dirks Denizen was Yaldabaoths
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>>81510793
It reminds me of D4C
DOJYAAAN
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>>81511018
That black hole worries me.
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>>81511025
yeah it's a screenshot
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>>81511070
>tfw i wouldn't know the difference

>>81511084
Anyone who disagrees is an idiot.
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>>81511069
Dude for real homestuck has been full of long, gratuitous and unsubtle references and homages since the beginning.
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>>81511084
Homestuck the anime is real.
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>>81511069
Split second shrek isn't the only reference to something in Homestuck.
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>>81511084
Stone Cold Babe
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>>81510511
You don't need to be GT to use abilities OR fraymotifs (ahem Kanaya). John did the wondy thing before GT'ing and Dave and Jade used Adagio Redshift before GT. Remembering probably helped her know what she could do, especially with doomed GT Terezis.
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>>81511084
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>>81511089
It's just a retro active epitah. C'mon Tom.
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>>81511121
you forgot entire pages dedicated to Con-Air
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At best there will probably a newspost today.

Wonder whether the remaining updates will be midnight again or EST afternoon?
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>>81510813
True, where the fuck was the mangrit. Where was the being wind rather than using it. Unimpressed desu. Atleast Roxy was great
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>>81511084
>yfw a homestuck animated series in this style
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>>81510770
I just wish analysts like this weren't so overenthusiastic. Sideways timeline hopping and retrieving alternative versions of a character isn't that special, and seriously, all this "tldr? terezi and dave are a POWERHOUS" stuff is cringeworthy.
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>>81511148
Terezi is Epitaph part. Dave is Crimson King part.
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>>81511135
Dont forget aradiabots talked about how the trolls had all their fraymotifs purchased for the blackking battle. Also terezi uses mind powers to kill vriska.
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>>81511164
Hopefully afternoon. I'm not getting up at 5 again.
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>>81510928
He was in the fridge. Arquius used it as a weapon and Cans ended up knocking them around, Gamzee ended up sucked in with Jack's head, and The Crowbar, where he makes it to Caliborn's session, busts out, and shows up in the masterpiece
Also Arquius is cool as shit
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>>81510123
I don't normally get on this board, but at this point I sort of just want to see the series end.

It's been going on since I was in high school. I was either a freshman or a sophomore and I'll be out of college in a year or so.

The animation was appreciable though.
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>>81510813
>>81511167
He's not weak, it's just that the Condesce is OP as fuck. Every player is on a lower power level than her.
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>>81511154
The con-air references are diegetic, it's a massive difference

>>81511117
name one as bad
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>>81511045
That's a good point
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>>81511176
> terezi and dave are a POWERHOUS
Dice can literally do the same but better
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>>81511180
>legit not knowing how King Crimson I or II works
Why do I suffer these plebs
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>>81510590
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>mfw UNDERTALE
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>>81511196
And Arquius got it from where? I think to remember they threw it into the sea?
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>>81511211
fucking rufioh dude
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>>81510639
I didn't see one, only undertale
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>>81511210
He didn't even use his powers effectively. It's not like she was stopping him become wind. It's not like she had a counter. I'm fine with how it turned out because it was Roxy time, and that's cool. However, he was pretty weak HiC power level aside.
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>>81511084
That fucking thing in the corner is preventing me from saving this
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>>81510318
Spades slick isn't necessarily a good guy
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>>81511246
You can't see it, only hear it.
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>>81511232
medium jej
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>>81511176
>Sideways timeline hopping and retrieving alternative versions of a character isn't that special
Imagine being this jaded
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>>81511232
Beyond perfection
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>>81511238
They didn't throw it in the sea
Vriska said they were going to but never did
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>>81510694
gamzee is the best and only ever had pure intentions
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>>81511249
>He didn't even use his powers effectively. It's not like she was stopping him become wind.
She grabs him with telekinetic powers several times. It doesn't matter if he was a flesh person or a wind person at that point.

Condy2Strong
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Regina Duodecim Angelus when?
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>>81511279
>getting touchy
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There was a lot of Jade in this despite her not doing much. But it was cute.

>>81511285
Oh, that explains it then.
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>>81511273
Senior Lyl
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Reminder

John/Roxy
Dave/Karkat
Rose/Kanaya
Terezi/Vriska red
Dirk/Jake
Jasprose/Davepeta

Jane and Jade get fucked over

Here are your endgame ships, fampais.
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>>81511345
>fampais
It's famtachi you prole
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I hope the whole process of funneling grist out from LoTaK's core was already finished or they're going to be 1/8 short on a galaxy.
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>>81511345
Vampires?
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>>81510639
>Touhou reference
>Not realizing it's Undertale.

Bro, I think we gotta have a talk about something.
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>>81511365
Theyre making a universe FUCKASS
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>>81511345

Why not Jane/Jade?

Also, Terezi/Vriska is literally canonically pale, bite me.
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>>81510872
>Not putting a reference to something created by someone who did nearly all the music in your own comic
Honestly if Hussie didn't reference Undertale at least once it would have been poor form imo desu.
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>>81511365
Wasn't there a flash about that, some decades ago?
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>>81511365
pretty sure they did it
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>>81511365
Galaxies are pretty big anyway. I think an 8th could go missing without too much issue. Maybe they could enlarge a couple rocks and throw them out into the void the eighth created.
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How exactly did Karkat capture a being that always had luck on their side not even some dumb explanation relating to his blood title would make sense with it
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>>81511377
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>>81511381

I mean, I'm technically not wrong. They would just be short 1/8 on every universe.

There, my embarrassing mistake is smoothed over.
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>>81511403
He's just that good ;)
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>>81511403
Getting tossed aside lightly is more of a grey area as far as luck is concerned, like getting whacked with a newspaper.
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>>81511403
>>81510999
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Jade's perfect egg shaped head.
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>>81511140
So, I've forgotten, Did Kayana achieve God tier, or was this fight 3 god tiers and a regular troll vs The Condense? Cause Kayana really felt like she didn't do much during that fight at all.
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>>81511403
This was the most fortunate outcome for him Clover/Karkat is endgame
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>>81511403
Because Karkat is the Anti-Luck Messiah.

He is the reason why Vriska got backstabbed by Terezi / punched by John.

He is the reason how Bec Noir won his fight against Ancestral Awakening Vriska.

He is the reason why Aranea's whole plan got fucked up.

His fucking anti-luck aura is overpowered as fuck and even lasts after his death.
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>>81511403
Two options. Either he's the walking, talking equivalent of a rolled up newspaper, or the curse of misfortune that Sollux' virus put on him canceled out Clover's luck.
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>>81511391
>nearly all
Wrong.
But I think Radiation might have the most credits, since he did most of the random sound effects.
The UT reference was pretty inevitable though, seeing as basically everyone who worked on UT is linked to HS somehow.
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>>81511439
Kanaya has no aspect powers whatsoever, she went all in with brute physical force.

All things considered that's pretty hardcore.
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>>81511462
>Wrong.
Nah it's true. Most of the music that's actually IN the comic is Radiation. Of course with albums there is less Radiation overall, but I was talking about the comic.
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>>81511403
Either:
Karkat and everyone around him is cursed with bad luck because of Sollux's virus
or
Clover had fallen in leprechaun love with Karkat so he was lucky to be captured by him.
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>>81511439
Kanaya's just a rainbow drinker. It makes sense that she contributed the least to the fight. She also didn't use any fraymotifs, although you don't need to get the tiger for that.
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>>81511478
>Kanaya has no aspect powers whatsoever
She doesn't seem to use them, but she should have them. All the trolls were at the top of their echeladders.
Unless going vampire somehow revoked her player status or something.
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>>81510999
>Tying up Clover is thematic with the Blood aspect, which is about bonds.
Karkat ties up Dave when he fucks him confirmed
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>>81510123
I was bored, it felt rushed and was somewhat anti-climatic. I guess that's what not giving a shit anymore does.
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Clover X Karkat confirmed
Suck it Davekat fans
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>>81511509
>>81511456
>>81511455
Why are people saying this like as if it's the simplest explanation? We already Clover's powers only protect him from serious harm, Occam's Razor says thats enough.
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>>81511377
Denizen's lazors at this moment was totally a touhou reference.
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>>81511478
Oh that was just brute force? And she kept pace with 3 god tiers?
Damn girl.
>>81511514
Which is a shame, cause That would have been interesting to see her get involved with.
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>>81511548
The Mobster Kingpin callback was noice

This fight was the only thing there should've been more of in the flash
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>>81511365
>funneling grist out from LoTaK's core
I completely forgot about this
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I hope Hussie releases a book about all the shit that wasn't fully elaborated on, like Classpects and Denizens.
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>>81511403
Clover let him win
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>>81511548
So Caliborn just beat a giant laser shooting monster snake to death with a crowbar. That's hardcore
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caliborn yaldabaoot bullet hell game when?
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>embedded youtube video
>still had loading percentages
Maybe I'm auso but this shit was fucking triggering.
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>>81511597
to be fair the crowbar is a litteral gamebreaker
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>>81511518
>She doesn't seem to use them, but she should have them. All the trolls were at the top of their echeladders.
Being at the top of the echeladder just means you did a lot of fighting or did something important in-session like release the grist horde. Lots of characters have gone through the whole game with no powers. Karkat being another example. It's part of the whole "They did the game wrong" shit.
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>>81511548
Oh yes, totally. I thought Anon was referring to the undertale moment, considering the picture they used.
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>>81510123
It was good, but I was kind of hoping for a One Punch Man tier animated throwdown given how long we had to wait. Or at least Symbionic Titant tier animation, Jesus.
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>>81510449
underrated post
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I am reminded by Trace's initial decision to use hi shotgun as a club in this panel that the Felt are really largely incompetent. Based Crowbar for actually killing Jake a few panels later.
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>>81510770
>that's unprecendented in homestuck
They just did what Terezi did in [s] Flip, just in reverse and a lot more thorough, didn't they?
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> :^(
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>>81511605
We all expect that shit in any case, good animators like hussie make the loading part of the fun.
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I love the color schemes in these fights
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>>81511652
nononononoNONOONONONONOONONONO
TAKE IT AWAY
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>>81511637
Crowbar has always been the competent one.
And speaking of, Inaugural Death of Mister Seven part two fucking when?
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>>81511544
>implying being tied up and ready to be raped isn't serious harm
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Currently, the video has roughly 50k views.

How much do you think it will gain till EST midnight?

>Homestuck Official
It's funny that it would only get an official channel for the last stretches.
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Could they have cut the pointless Jade shit for more of the Caliborn fight?
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>>81511664
WHAT WILL MS PAINT DO NOW?
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>>81511637
forgot the picture

Oh yeah and shit, ARquis intervened in the Felt battle but didn't meet Aurthour!
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>>81511678
500k, at the least.
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>>81511661
>kanaya applying her lipstick
>friends fighting for their lives
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>>81511167
He uses being wind defensively, and a psychic grab can't be stoped so easily.
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>>81511627
why would you ever expect anything close to that quality

jesus christ
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>>81511652
I'd forgotten all about their relationship.
RIP SLICK
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>>81510813
this makes me wonder how will they even stand a chance against LE or mega Caliborn or Alt Calliope or whoever the fuck is the final boss
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Be honest, if somebody had told you a year ago that the last proper fight with Lord English would have mostly involved Tavros, Aradia, and Meenah, would you have believed them?
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>>81511684
The only good thing about jade was her getting punched in the face

What a shit character. It's been a while, so can anyone remind me if jade has any redeeming qualities? I remember finding her to be the worst kid for quite a while.
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>>81511652
Oh god no. Why would you do this to me?
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>>81511652
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>>81511678
he learned to not post a fucking flash on newgrounds like it happened for Cascade
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>>81511550
>Oh that was just brute force? And she kept pace with 3 god tiers?
>Damn girl.
I honestly don't know what's more impressive, that, or the fact that it'd occur to her to read a motherfucking book in the middle of a deadly battle.
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>>81511712
LE isn't dead yet.
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>Send 1 million+ ghosts at LE
>He wipes them all out with ease
LE the strongest
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>>81511661
I completely missed Meenah siphoning some health off of English.

>>81511673
That's exactly what I was saying mate. Or rather the Maroon Felt Members are competent, given Cans . . . shit, why no-one uploaded an image of Cans vs Dad yet?

>>81511676
Your penis would suddenly develop erectile dysfunction. Come on, is Clover's power THAT hard to understand?
>>
THERE'S NOBODY ABLE TO CONTROL PM NOW
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>>81511750
If only they had a shred of plot armor to protect them.
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>>81511750
Ghost are legitimate retarded. Why don't use their god tier powers like not-Feferi for example?
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>>81511712
he aint dead
they're all fucking nuked tho
last proper will be against Caliborn And LE
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>>81511750
This ain't even the first time he's done that.
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>>81511622
John's MANGRIT gains were parallel with him climbing up his echeladder, though. Even if you say that going up on the echeladder doesn't translate into strength, it is synonymous with it.

Which just means Karkat retroactively ended up having the shittiest stat gains ever.
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>>81511757
Especially once she puts on the other ring.
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>>81511757
But unlike Bec Noir she isn't evil.
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>Jade, Karkat and Vriska are the most worthless members

>there are people who even argue that Clover let Karkat win
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>>81511684
But then we wouldn't get that awesome moment where PM goes full DETERMINATION and punches her. Jade's the one thing that could calm down anyone that's part-Bec but PM's will was simply stronger. Stronger than an omnipotent god dog. The strongest. THE STRONGEST
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>>81511742
Well now I have a reason to go back and watch it yet again. I noticed her reapplying lipstick, but she was reading a fucking book?

>>81511757
Is anyone else worried she may try to put on the other ring now?
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>>81511757
Yes there is
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>>81511786
if she does I think that both erm arms will fall off
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>googled lard english
>was not disappointed
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>>81511804
And what, lose both arms?
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>>81511743

We've got about 40 pages to go, this shit's over as far as battles go.
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>>81511808
Yeah, it's genius. Can't cut off what isn't there.
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>>81511805
he dead boy
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>>81511742
>or the fact that it'd occur to her to read a motherfucking book in the middle of a deadly battle.
She was applying buffs, anon. Don't tell me you just spam attack skills the entire time.
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>>81511805
F F
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>>81511750
Lord English beat the shit out of Tavros
I thought he was about to kill him
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>>81511586
In the interval, fancy a classpect discussion?
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>>81511785
Karkat just leveled up CHA or WIS
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>>81511816
Why would she lose the other arm, it's always been the same arm before. No, she would just get a nega-arm obviously.
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>>81511804
She will give the ring to WV and they will be happily married.
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where's the Dignitary
>>
what if PM gives the ring to The Mayor?
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>>81511785
>John's MANGRIT gains were parallel with him climbing up his echeladder, though
Homestuck is an RPG parody and MANGRIT is a joke stat that means whatever Hussie wants it to mean in a given situation to be used or ignored as he pleases and is mostly there to just indicate that John is growing up whether that is in a literal maturity sense or in the jokey stat sense.
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Anyone got a screenshot of Hussie crossing out characters at Vriska?
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>>81511866
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>>81511757
I like that Jack became less ruthless and bloodthirsty. Here's to hoping he survives as the last Jack standing.
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>>81511831
Droog specifically is, but you're not thinking right if that's the only DD on your mind.
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>>81511866
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>>81511808
what if she puts one on her tentacle?
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>>81511862
That should've happened during Cascade.
>>
I think it's fairly obvious that both rings will get destroyed at this point. PM likely doesn't feel the need to be angry and omnipotent all the time now. Don't they need to throw a magic ring into the forge for the endgame thing anyway?
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inb4 DD gets the ring
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>>81511882
theyre carapacians
they're smooth as porcelain dolls down there
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>>81511875
>>81511879
>Dave is crossed out too
OH NO
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>>81511860

The one who got one of the Queen's rings? It's been so long, I forgot.

Speaking of, what happened to this session's White Queen?
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>>81511862
He doesn't want it. He carried one through the desert for years and never put it on.
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>>81511875
Feferi and Equius are alive?
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>>81511864
You're ignoring the sentence that came RIGHT after that.

What you're saying? Basically what I'm saying, except that I add the fact that it's more of a tracker for growth rather than direct upgrades to stats. When I said Karkat had shitty stat gains, I was simply saying that Karkat didn't improve at all.
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>>81511884
Why do people think WV should've been the one to get the ring? It was pretty clearly foreshadowed that he didn't really want that.
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>>81511887
What better way to deliver post than with all powerful teleporting green sun powers?
Also when she gives the ring to WV they can get married
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>>81511875
>Hussie confirms that Jane and Dirk are dead
>no Kanaya and Sollux
>Feferi is alive
>Erisolsprite is going to die
>Dave, Davepeta, Terezi, Vriska and Karkat are going to die
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>>81511903
Probably got blown up with most of Prospit.
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>>81511927
Odds are that the green sun's about to go bye-bye.
>>
Arquiusprite is a cool dude
Too bad he becomes a creepy puppet man and a giant buff skeleton
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>>81511952
Calliope said as much herself, didn't she?
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>>81511962
You mean one version of Arquiusprite

from one side of a retcon
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What happened to Jane? She's just unconscious, right? The Condesce wouldn't want to kill her heiress, right?
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>>81511945
Calliope is probably going to link herself to the Green Sun a la Dark Souls and extinguish it
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>>81511979
She got knocked the fuck out
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>>81511968
>>81511988
Why though? What purpose does that really serve?
>>
Why did Hussie turn Karkat into such a cucked failure?
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>>81511916
Man you're confusing me because you're both taking the echeladder literally but also with a caveat that you're not taking it literally.

Karkat... stat gains... man, I'm not in a thinking mood today, can we just agree he's a fucking weenie regardless of whatever sight gag game mechanic happens to be there.
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>he put it on jewtube

Lame. Probably another plot to show how many views it can get.
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>>81511952
There is literally no point in removing the sun now since the only negative thing about it was Bec Noir and he's gone now.
It also powers guardians to protect planets with intelligent life and prepare them for the game. Destroying it by choice is a bad move at this point of the game since it doesn't power LE in anyway.

That being said alt-Calipope is probably going to do something with it.
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>>81511875
>>81511943
Do you know what this means?

>NO ONE WINS THE DAVEBOWL
>>
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>>81512013
He's never been a factor in combat, he should be grateful he had any role here at all
He'll be the prime minister of Alt-Alternia
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>Rose starting the attack
fuck yeah
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>>81512008
Lord English's plans and powers rely heavily on Green Sun energy such as through Doc Scratch.
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>>81510123
new thread? this one is pretty long
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>>81512025
Mituna is cute!
cute!
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>>81512018
probably bored of server assaults. they are quite the hassle after the initial oh wow moment.
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>>81512020
Space and Time don't work linearly in the Void

Odds are the length of Time for which the Green Sun has existed will enough to furnish infinite first guardians.

We just need to destroy it now to eliminate LE.
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>>81512008
I dont know
maybe erasing English's primary power source?
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>>81512018
>thinking an 18 minute flash animation is a good idea
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post yfw condy was beaten by all passive classes
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>>81511742
she's a mary sue, she can do what she wants
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>>81508596
I was on omegle way back in 2011, randomly chatting with people. One of them I hung out with playing video games via steam, and he was a fan of homestuck and told me to read it. Lifechanging.
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>>81512050
Don't be silly, the last two threads were 1000+ posts long.
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>>81512050
last two hit 1600
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>>81512050
the last two got around 1.5k posts each, we haven't even hit bump limit in this one yet.
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hey
its me

krabkrab
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>>81512044
>John's face
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>>81511345
Jade/Tavros is endgame, mark my words

>>81511859
>>81511862
Would he want it? He had nightmares about putting it on and becoming too much like Jack.
Maybe after the Green Sun blows up or whatever. (It'll be sad to see it go.)
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>>81512068
Passive classes are good team players, and there was four of them.

Also Jane got involved.
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>>81511884
>A gentle natured midget becoming Noir's foil and not the tall vengeful mail lady
>two dersites instead of a dersite and prospitian for the ying/yang symbolism
nah
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>>81512061
How would destroying the sun eliminate LE though? He doesn't get a power boost from it.
Unless you want to finish the theme of lord English creating black holes and trap him in the singularity created when it goes supernova
>>
Hussie seemed kinda giddy when Karkat attacked LE.
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>>81512098
>cat x dog
>>
Question in filename:
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>>81512109
>ying/yang
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>>81512119
He wants all of his characters to die horribly
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>>81512116
He does because he's a First Guardian.

The black hole trap/Problem Sleuth callback stuff is just gravy.
>>
sticky when
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>>81512068
Is there any actual evidence that supports Classfagging.
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>>81512098
I feel like the dream was more about him being more of a responsible bearer of the ring.
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>>81512071
If she's a Mary Sue then call me Captain Kirk cause damn gurl I wanna be written in a convoluted piece of fanfic that ends up with us getting married.
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>>81512141
what're you looking at maryam
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>>81511750
I don't know why the fuck did Hussie planned making an army vs one man fight if he probably knew from the start that most of them would just stand there doing nothing and letting themselves get killed. I mean he probably planned animating most of them attacking or something but in the end that's way too much work.
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>fncysntakind
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>>81510551
because as far as she knows, she can't go to any of the fights except the dogs, and she thinks her powers and theirs are going to disappear soon (if alt callie does her job)
so she was stalling
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>>81512180
I mean their whole purpose was just to be in his way briefly. Meenah literally said "throw your torsos at him".
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>>81512156
Little, but that doesn't mean it isn't fun
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>>81512152
LE isn't a first guardian.
Doc Scratch was but his whole deal is that he is literally holding the soul of LE which is released when hussie mangles his corpse
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>>81512068
> mfw when Thief is dead because of backstab
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>>81510551
PM's willpower is bananas
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>>81511800
It was all because of the mail, the mail is always the priority
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>>81512185
how bout she uses her fuckin powers while she still can
fuckin honestly dumbass mf baka senpai
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>>81512018
Do you not remember what happened with Cascade?
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>>81512119
he went full William Wallace/Lerooy Jenkins
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>>81511265
Or, in yaldababoner's fight it used two non-directional lasers
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>>81512184
Fancy Santa is stronger than Crowbar's Crowbar
>>
>>81512013
>>81512043
That he was useless at fighting came up after the fact "recently".

So your reply is completely inappropriate. Anon is asking why Hussie turned him into a (cucked) failure. The fault can be found in the fandom (if you wish to specify, then "tumblr") viewing and treating him as a wimp. The fact that he's on the ground crying from fighting Clover really drives it in how hard the influence has tainted him.

I mean, this isn't the only thing that's gone wrong with the story that came from Hussie being changed by bad influences. It shouldn't be a surprise.
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>>81512229
Karkat has been a crybaby since Horrorstuck in Act 5 though.
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>>81512229
When was he ever useful at fighting before?
And "recently" is actually like several years ago. You're living in an idealized and largely fabricated past.
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>>81512155
When it ends

>>81512116
We don't know what will happen if the green sun is actually destroyed. I'm guessing something to do with black holes because otherwise there was literally no point to the cherub exposition.
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>>81512229
The guy's always been a wimp. He fucking fainted when Kanaya cut Tavros' legs off.
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>>81512195
True. I wonder if someone will get around to making an actual 'literary' analysis of this silly webcomic and analyzing all this class shit, whatever the fuck that means.
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>>81512244
His best friend fucking died, you stupid fuck.

It's like your shitty mind flanderized him to cry over minor bullshit.
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>>81512219
She did use them. She teleported around to distract them.
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>>81512184
Shit, Sawtooth and Squarewave didn't turn up in any incarnation, did they?

Wonder if they're fighting the Dignitary at the head of an army of Drones
>>
You know posting this on youtube was pretty wise from Hussie, I mean he gathers the tons of views that usually a random youtuber would win by uploading this shit to their accounts and he doesn't have the same shitty problems he had with Cascade.
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>>81512277
I wonder if the video was even made in flash.
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>>81512229
Karkat was never meant to be badass or anything anon. The point was that he was all talk.
He cried the most out of any troll and faints at the sight of blood.
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>>81512205
You're going against Hussie's word here. The only thing LE lost from Scratch was the near-omniscience, as the body part responsible for that literally exploded. LE has crackled with FG green stuff repeatedly.

This is why Doc Scratch is an excellent host while Noir is merely adequate. First Guardian powers come in very handy, such as for retrieving the Cairo Overcoat from the 3rd window.
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>>81512229
Please tell me one time where Karkat was good in a fight, other than when fighting some generic monsters on his land

Fucking up and impotent rage is like, his thing
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>>81511699
It's a JRPG, you have to wait your turn.
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>>81512306
> knight of blood faints at the sight of blood
> knight of time is afraid of time travel
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>>81512328
rex duodecim
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Goddamnit I felt so bad for him at this point
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>>81511211
>rufioh
>random meme references
>juggalos
>etc
>>
People just fucking hate tumblr flanderizing him into a fat hobbit woobie mascot who needs to be cuddled by Sollux, Dave or John.
>>
Why did LE choose to take his overcoat off and beat the shit out of the army personally instead of just lasering them from a distance
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>>81512267
>His best friend fucking died, you stupid fuck.
BOO HOO HOO MY BEST FRIEND DIED BOO HOO HOOOOOOO

Hey, I found a violin, do you think I could play it? It's really small, see. Possibly the world's smallest. Fuck it, I'll give it a shot.
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>>81512345
he did what he always does, made the first cut and pretty much nothing else
>>
>>81512363
Because it's fucking fun.
>>
>>81512365
>being this much of an edgy fuck
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>>81512363
He was in the mood for some fisticuffs.
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>>81512363
More fun
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>>81512363
Caliborn really hates trolls because Calliope really loves trolls. Seeing them form an army against him was probably doubly offensive to him.
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>>81512351
Gamzee has a reason to cry
Karkat's just a random fuckup who's sad because he sucks at every single thing he does
Karkat must be retarded to run up to LE like that
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>>81512267
That doesn't make him not a crybaby
Get over it, he was never a badass
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>>81512387
>mfw
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>>81512340
like pottery
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>>81512406
>at every single thing he does
Except being a leader. Like how he lead the charge, or lead the group through the game.
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>>81512363
he took the coat off for literally one reason only.

easier animation

I see no other reason for him to have made that little jump other than to make a transition
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>>81512261
Not quite sure what literary is meant to mean here. All literary means is that the work being assessed has writing in it.

Analysis is basically taking what's stating in the comic and plugging the gaps with what you'd bet as more likely than the alternatives. It's more a mathematic or geometric exercise than anything else.

I'll share my model in another post to show you what I mean.
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>>81512406
> Karkat must be retarded to run up to LE like that
Yeah... He should just stand here and wait for his turn to be bitch slapped... Wait.
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Who /tearedupabitatsomepartsoftheflash/ here!
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>>81512351
>all his friends are in the thick of battle being cool as shit and he feels like he can't do anything
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>>81512421
>Except being a leader. Like how he lead the charge, or lead the group through the game.
ah yes, the amazing feat of becoming the first blood spilled, or how everyone under him managed to get fucking killed or go on a murderous rampage
what a great leader
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>>81512433
Feels like a gentlemanly thing to do, doff your coat before engaging in fisticuffs. Totally in character for English actually.

But those other reasons are also correct.
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>>81512437

Or, you know, attack in a group, supported by other team members who would allow him to effectively land some hits.
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>>81512332
This image is stupid because you have to wait for your turn in a fuck ton of WRPGs too.
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>>81512421
Anon, he just bullied his friends into submission.

Terezi and Vriska did all the hard work, while he listened to Slick's plan.
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>>81512459
>how everyone under him managed to get fucking killed or go on a murderous rampage
He managed to keep them from doing that until Jack happened and forced them into that pressure cooker of a meteor.
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>>81512436
This is the non-refined heroic title block I've put together.

Different sections contain stuff which is shown directly in the comic, stuff which is generally inferrable if not directly shown or stated and stuff which is more conjectural.

It's more of a database for the interested than a neat model.
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>>81512459
>how everyone under him managed to get fucking killed
That was always the plan. The ghost army was a distraction, and it succeeded in distracting him. The question is whether Vriska utilizes that distraction.
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>>81512487
>Anon, he just bullied his friends into submission.
That's what leaders do - make people do things they don't necessarily want to do. And when you're leading a group of 6 sweep old, teenage loony trolls then some bullying will be necessary.
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I'm a bit disappointed nothing cool happened with the Serenity part.

Thought maybe it would leeway into god-tiering those who weren't god-tier.
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>>81512494
And this is refined model. It's the most likely (abstract) meaning I reckon fits the evidence on heroic titles.

(okay I think there's a few contradictions between these images, I made them a while apart)

This is the sort of thing I reckon a "Sburb Explanation Book" would do, along with lengthier text descriptions.
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>>81511788
dude. Bec wanted to stop fighting
she kept going
she even hurt jade
>chaotic evil confirmed
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>>81512536
Serenity/firefly influence will probably occur in the next 40 pages
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>she can shoot blasts out of her hands
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>>81512548
Only the mayor can stop PM. (good thing they landed on the planet where the mayor is).
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>>81512406
>he sucks at every single thing he does
That sounds like a good enough reason to cry though
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>IPGD got Hussie to say Davekat is cannon
>But not Cocknaya
I've never felt more betrayed.
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>>81512559
Magic is real, muthafucka.

But yeah, the lasers she shot out of her needle-wands, like Eridan's hope blasts, came from her all along.
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>Vriska's plan worked
Jesus fuck, being Karkat is truly suffering.
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>>81512539
>>81512494
Another chart for mine chart collection
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A brief moment where the Felt and Jake could bond over their shared love of biscuits

Also, Nanna surely must've had some thoughts for seeing her young brother again in fruity shorts
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>>81512579
>>IPGD got Hussie to say Davekat is cannon
wut? When?
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>>81512579
deer-puncher never cared about cockanaya. You're lucky she didn't make davesprite having a cloaca canon, that got her rocks off
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>>81512494
>>81512539
You're insane.
Still pretty cool tho
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>>81512593
where have you been

https://vine.co/v/iIaLbvbuEJZ
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>>81512559
Man the flipping was really stupid in the animation
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>>81512548
That was a punch for non-lethal damage. She got Jade out of the way without causing significant or permanent harm so she could carry out justice on Jack. PM is LN at most, LG more likely.

No Gm would make a Paladin fall for getting a CG buffoon out of harm's way forcefully.
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>>81512593
There's a vine of it somewhere

>>81512591
damn, forgot the picture

>>81512585
Explain how this one works?
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>>81512619
It's pretty much the same thing as John flipping out with his pogo-hammer way back when
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>>81512583
But it's not finished yet
LE needs to die and all attempts to murder him are unsuccessful
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>>81512615
I had missed that.
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>>81512609
>>81512585
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>lightning out of the fingers
is she azula
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>>81512615
But he didn't write it, he just signed a piece of paper. For another of his oh so hilarious jokes supposed to rile certain people to make sure they keep watching.


The pig hasn't even watched the flash. Or so she says on her twitter.
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>>81512615
how did this never hit the rising or homepage despite being popular than 90% of the vines featured on both? it's literally all black memes and stolen content.
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>>81512645
>not doing the Dr Strange devil horns
come on Hussie
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>>81512625
The Felt and Jake are teaming up since both Slick and Jack are dead
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>>81512608
I didn't mind cloacasprite, I just wanted Kanaya's oversized impractical dong to be real.
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>>81512585
Man, you don't want me to upload all my draft models.

>>81512609
I think that's a little more insane, given that it's projecting someone else's philosophy onto Hussie.

Hussie draws influences from a lot of places, but the odds of this wizard's square thing or whatever either a) deliberately being used as the basis for the Aspects or b) accidentally aligning perfectly by coincidence is small. Basically it violates Occam's Razor.
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>>81512646
But Davekat is canon, anon.

We don't want that pairing to be endgame, though.
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>>81512646
>For another of his oh so hilarious jokes supposed to rile certain people to make sure they keep watching.
>to make sure they keep watching.
It generally baffles me how people can read so deeply and incorrectly into someone's character. Do you GENUINELY believe Hussie signed that paper with the ulterior motive to ensure more viewers? That's unbelievable.
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>>81512077
>>81512081
>>81512087
christ.


also calling it now: Dave attacks with a flood of daves, similar to aradia
but Davepeta still gets the final hit
making dave still not be the hero he always and never wanted to be
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how about that aspect inversion eh?
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>>81512653
Oh definitely, Crowbar is impressed at the end of the flash. Wonder if Dad will become the new Snowman.
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The final boss of Problem Sleuth was a white mobster.

What if the final boss of Homestuck is a black mobster?
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>>81512665
> upload all my draft models
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>>81510123
>Well, how was it?
well, it certainly ended Act 6

i have been listening to the flac of the album nonstop since it dropped

and i have been freaking out about all the symbolism and callbacks in the flash
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Reminder that Davekat isn't Canon :^)
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>>81512666
>we
HAH
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>>81512638
So let me guess - each class is meant to function as an intermediary from one group to the other.

Rogues help the Team influence the World
Heirs help the World influence individual Players
Princes help individual players influence . . . Unusuable?

Here's where more information is needed.
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>>81512670
Yeah, the reason he did it was pretty clearly to fuck with hst. Wouldn't that put people off, rather than advertise?
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>>81512699
LE is a pimp. Caliborn's whole thing is being a misogynist, cruel individual who wants to control women - see his bullying of Jane, Calliope, etc etc etc etc. That carried over to LE.
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https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/s-collide
Gotta love how the price for the album is $6.66
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>>81512646
>For another of his oh so hilarious jokes supposed to rile certain people to make sure they keep watching.
you obtuse motherfucker

the joke is that him doing that pisses off the fucknuts who keep talking about how "davekat isn't canon" and "hussie wouldnt do that" because the truth makes you uncmfortable

hussie's having a joke, and the joke is on you
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>Caliborn just straight up beat Yoghurtboner to death with a crowbar

I was sure he'd cheat. But damn, that kid did it completely legit. He's a bad guy but damn does he try hard. You gotta respect that
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>>81510718
So how did this Shrek come to be?
Was he just some dream bubble nonsense?
Was he alchemized somehow?
Was he the real Shrek that somehow got into Homestuck?
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>>81512749
explains the cane and the bling ak
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>>81512548
she sheathed her sword and punched

she didnt want to hurt jade, but she really wanted to hurt noir
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>>81512219
she's using the bare minimum. Damage control
she was told to deal with the dogs
but she's seen Bec Noir be kind to her, care for her, and show compassion
Because Bec was her pupper and Jack isn't actually bad. Antihero.
but the fucking mailman fucked it up
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>>81512306
>doesn't faint at the sight of his blood and even casually chats with others when he just got stabbed by Slick
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>there was a way bigger flip out over Cascade
>there was way more discussion after Cascade
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>>81512778
>Jack isn't actually bad.
He killed all of Prospit and entire armies of carapacians for no reason and he killed AR also.
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>>81512749
It looks like Jade is the only normal person on that art because of the colors and kinda like if the other 3 are death or sprites or something. Makes you think what if in the end just one of the kids ends up alive, or maybe one of the alpha kids since Jane and Dirk seem to be pretty death.
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>>81512782
because it was his blood
he got adjusted to it
but different colors freak him the fuck out
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>>81512775
Him being a pimp is honestly something I thought was common knowledge. One of Dave's tiers on the echeladder is even "Pimpslayer"
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>>81512786
Because the end of Cascade was fucking confusing.

>There's a giant bomb and you're both going to die oh by the way here's two God Tier beds also here's the Green Sun all of a sudden, good luck understanding what happened without consulting the internet
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>>81512799
he did nothing wrong
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>>81512703
Conspiracy stuff is a different kettle of fish.

Hussie obviously referenced and borrowed ideas from Greek philosophers all over the place. So did the WoNZ and others. It's classic confounding.
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>>81512832
>Hussie obviously referenced and borrowed ideas from Greek philosophers all over the place
excuse me
what
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>>81512736
It is more how aspects are transfered by players. Thieves take from others to themselves, etc.
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>>81512752
>calls someone else obtuse for saying a thing and then says the same thing

At least he isn't retarded.

>but I meant the riling up part

That still seems to be the case though? You can make a joke and still benefit from the results. And Hussie knows angry people will watch or read, so why not kill two birds with one stone.

Why so pointlessly defensive of this guy?
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they're all so cute
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>>81512774
a father's bond with his son transcends logic
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>>81512832
>>81512852
Frankly, if you're born in the west everything you do will inherently reference/borrow from Greek philosophers
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Gamzee being abused constantly is building up his rage
He's going to freak the fuck out real soon
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Can we just give Karkat the headcanon that he can triumph over luck-based characters?
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>>81512536
well we saw Rxoy is bamming slamming bootylicious
also.
she's better with the void powers
so....
sacrifical slabs for karkat and kanaya?
I feel like god tier karkat would escape the pussification
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>>81512799

Also Bro, Mom, Dad, John once, Dave twice, Rose once... a literal entire universe... plus some others I'm forgetting, probably. Lots of Aradiabots.
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>>81512786
>more discussion
We're 3500 posts into the discussion now, and it hasn't been 12 hours yet.
Not that there was a lot to discuss. Everything is straight forward.
Collide is all about conclusions. Final battles were had. Bosses were slain. Heroes fell. Davekat is cannon.
Pointing out the little references and callbacks hidden through out is pretty much all there is to it.
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>>81512889
I thought he only beat Clover because the Sollux virus that made him and anyone around him unlucky.
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So did anyone find any mistakes?

At ~7:50 Jade moves herself, Bec Noir, and PM to LOFAF, but then around 9:07 they're back on Prospit with Serenity.
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>>81512871
see >>81512670

im not defensive of the guy you're just crazy and im calling you out
he had no ulterior motive
he's not trying to desperately ensure people watch
he's fucking with you
and you fall for it constantly
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>>81512852
TimeausTestefied
A troll with visions called Terezi (Tiresias)
The evolving shape of the Battlefield
Platonic Solids
The fucking Denizens

Are people really not picking this up?
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>>81512891
the beds are jujus, you can't just unmake the non beds
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>>81512873
I love how sprite mode characters just bounce around like pieces of plastic or something. I know it's technically bad animation but it's funny.
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>>81512889
You don't understand. He beat Clover because it was a grey area.

Clover is into Bondage, so Karkat tying him up can't really be considered an unlucky situation for him.
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>>81512889
But not Vriska because she was intillegence-based character and luck is just one of her many tools in your perfect plans and schemes
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>>81512886
>is building up his rage
>le "gamzee is an incoherent ragebeast" meme
he's in the fridge, crying
he's crying you idiot

let my honkfriend go
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>>81512925
>A troll with visions called Terezi (Tiresias)
Hussie didn't name the trolls
anything meaningful in them is the result of other people.
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>>81512852
oh and this >>81512884

>>81512862
So this model envisages all the classes as transferers? Perhaps contradicting stated canon but we'll see.

The question still stands, what exactly does Unusuable mean in context? Things that are destroyed/forsaken/lost?
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>>81512927
>the beds are jujus
[citation needed]
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>>81512946
>Vriska
>intelligence
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>>81512925
That's mostly names, not ideas.
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Does Hussie not like to draw anymore? He seemed like a guest artist in his own animation
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>>81512953
He picked them, which is pretty close to naming them himself.
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>>81512774
technically he's a randomized lusus.....
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>>81512638
That's actually pretty clever, if absurdly complicated.

>>81512665
>I think that's a little more insane, given that it's projecting someone else's philosophy onto Hussie.
Oh, no, that's completely unrelated to classpect. It's from the website >>81512703 linked here.

>>81512736
Nah, I think it's take from/give to. Let's see...
Princes render players unusable (e.g. killing, etc, see Eridan with Feferi, or Dirk with Jake)
Heirs take from the world to give individuals (himself; that's how he becomes the Breeze)
Rogues take from the world and give their team. (Roxy with nonexistent stuff)
I think that checks out.

>>81512774
This Eridan's hope powers made his dream dad real.

>>81512925
Out of curiosity, how is the Battlefield's evolving shape related to Greek philosophy? And what are the roles of platonic solids in Homestuck? The rest makes sense.
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>>81512972
No he's outsourcing the comic now.
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>>81512953
He picked the names from those submitted. Someone on the forums clearly had the same idea of naming a greek astrology themed character with prominently blindness after a legendary prophet, and Hussie leapt on it and used thoroughly.
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>>81511211
The Saw flash. You don't even remember it.
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>>8151296
You literally watched how her plan worked perfectly in last flash.
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So is Jake cool now? Killing the whole felt is pretty impressive for a guy in hotpants who has no idea how to do the hopey thing
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can we appreciate how glorious LE sprite was?
it's like the final boss of a sidescrolling fighting game
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>>81512966
>the names of ideas implemented and fleshed out in the comic don't count because they're just names

>>81512990
I'm well aware, and it is because someone has tied them into homestuck heroic titles in a big grand theory, which is obviously what we're taking about.
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>>81512972
Either that or he doesn't have time. Organising all the guest artists was probably a huge part of the work he did.

Did he draw anything for this at all?(other than the original sprites)
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>>81512771
The crowbar is a juju.
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Please god just let the pain end already
>>
are we ever going to get more hussnasty panels?
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Am I the only one who shouted OH YEAH when dad burst out of the wall cool aid man style to fight cans?
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>>81512799
>>81512898
JACK
DID
NOTHING
WRONG
2K16
>>81512927
the beds are not jujus
and even so
there are the slabs which are separate from the beds
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>>81513024
He was always cool. Just literally autistic on top of that.
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>>81512949
Do you not remember what happened on the ship and on game over you retard? This fucker is gonna come out of there somehow and start fucking everything up like the asshole he is
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>>81513017
Frankly her plan wasn't even that complex. She just said "we need to beat these four people", dudes volunteered to fight, that's it. The only complex part of her plan was getting the treasure to beat LE and well... we don't know how that'll work out yet.
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>>81513039
it's a juju made to break jujus
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>>81512891
Making Papaya and Karkat god tier is too fucking good to happen
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>>81513029
You didn't name any "ideas implemented and fleshed out in the comic". You named a bunch of names that the comic namedropped.
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>>81513029
>the names of ideas implemented and fleshed out in the comic don't count because they're just names

You know how in neon genesis evangelion everything is themed around christian mythology? It's like that in Homestuck. Ultimately it's only there to look and sound cool, not to symbolise anything in particular.
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>>81512771
> Caliborn cheat
Guy brute forcing everything
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>>81513058
he was POSSESSED you fucking idiot
do you remember how gamzee acted before he met lil cal?
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>>81513070
Yeah, the most impressive part is just compiling all the intelligence beforehand so they could decide how to deal with it.
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>>81513057
nah
he was just fucked over constantly
Jane sexualized him
dirk loved him but doesn't into socializing
and roxy never took interest in him
he was the side friend who no one gave a real fuck about so he never was really explored
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>>81513026
Fuck, can't someone use all of these sprites and actually program some sort of fighting game? It doesn't really sounds complicated
>>
What if Homestuck was actually the friends we made on the way
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>>81513095
>do you remember how gamzee acted before he met lil cal?
I remember he was high on sopor slime
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I can't believe Bec Noir is finally dead. He made it so far despite being only a mini-miniboss.
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>>81513108
I saved them all from papersyeverywhere's tumblr
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>>81513095
he was high
lil cal is like 1/4 him
are you saying he possessed himself to kill his friends? seems silly huh?
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>>81512771
He also had his golden rifle though
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>>81513134
>lil cal is like 1/4 him
Oh fuck
You just destroyed him
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>>81513026
I highly enjoyed him putting that grossly oversized bod to actual use, as opposed to just insta-nuking the army with his lazer. You really felt that whilst Aradia, Meenah and Tavros were doing everything they could to harm him, it just flat out wasn't registering damage to the guy.

I really can't wait to see just how they deal with him and who will live through the process.
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>>81513126
>mini-miniboss.
remember when he was the #1 threat
I miss that
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>>81513126
B1 Jack lost his ring, but the dude is still alive, and there's no way his part in the story is over. He's the only Jack left, after all.
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>>81513134
I DEMAND SAUCE
FOR THE GREATER GOOD
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>>81513095
>He was POSSESSED
The only time Gamzee has ever been possesed was when he was on Aranea's control and he was harmless as fuck at that point. He actually became dangerous when he got out of that mind control and started acting like the crazy motherfucker he is you retard.

That time he was possessed and the times he was high on those green things were the only times he didn't act like a fucking lunatic
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>>81513134
>lil cal is like 1/4 him
Untrue.
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>>81513095
Fucking gamzee apologists are scum. Even regular homestuck tumblrinas spit on them.
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>>81513188
Literally shown in the comic.
Unless you are saying his angry half is 1/3 of lil cal which would be more precise.
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>>81512786
Cascade ended in a sloppy clusterfuck for story purposes, it's unbelievable that Act 5 Act 2 was as long as it was and STILL needed more time than it got.

>there's some basic idea of a plan
>everyone is doing their part
>suddenly Jade goes God Tier
>ALRIGHT NEW PLAN EVERYONE HURRY GOGOGOGO
>shit starts happening way too fucking fast
>it just ends with no one having any clue what just happened
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>>81513095
How this even works? He was possessed by LE who is arguably was half of himself?
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>>81513180
KATNEP PLEASE JUST FUCKING stay I miss this ship why couldn't it have been canon
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>>81513086
the christian mythology is just window dressing. evangelion is themed after freudian and jungian psychological theory, with allusions like Mother is the First Other, the relationship between the libido, destrudo, and the AT Field, infantile dependence, introjection, pleasure principle, seperation anxiety, anima, animus, and the collective unconscious
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>>81512583
>The strategist who has tons of gamer experience made a good plan
>worked out to be better than any plan made by a guy whose role was mostly unionization of his team mates
It's neither that bad nor surprising
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>>81513026
Yeah, these were great. I especially love his Hugo clap right here.
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>>81513214
shit
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>>81513221
This comic is not over.
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>>81512873
Hussie think he slick...
SHE dabbin
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17 minutes of fighting, where nothing really happened. some people loved and some people died. about the only thing unexpected was when pm punched out jade.
that and a ton of other things were out of character (tavros fighting LE, vriska sitting back and watching the entire time).
the art and animation, while pretty, were basically glorified fan art. it's disappointing that hussie has done this and it's obvious with the number of loose ends that didn't/won't be tied up that hussie checked out a long time ago
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>>81513106
do you remember what happened to the only other character to look a possessed lil cal in the eyes?

and you can't just ignore the 1/3 of LE that is the actual canonical incoherent ragebeast bent on killing everyone, and say "gamzee was obviously only influenced by himself to go kill all his friends"
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>>81513280
>tavros fighting
read the thread
>vriska sitting out
she's always been the type to let people duke it out then take on the weakened winner
>glorified fan art
guest artists told how to write the story
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>>81512990
Alright this is parsable, so let's check it out:

Rogues give from the team to the world. Not seeing this, how did Roxy shift things from her peers/friends to reality? Is that what magicking something from nothing means, moving the team's "nothing" to the rest of the world and thus conjuring a something? How would this differ from transfering from Individuals to the World? Aka Mage in this model. I can sort of see this for Rufioh/The Summoner, but I'm really not seeing it from Nepeta.

Heirs transfer from the World to players. That works out to me, Heirs are an assimilator or nexus of sorts.

Princes render Players unusuable. Well, they also render objects unusable like the Matriorb. Is the Matriorb a player? I can see this connection working with more accurate terms, like Individual and Groups for Player and Team.

Sylphs transfer unusuable things to the Team. Kanaya fits, perhaps Aranea fits.

Thiefs transfer things from the Group to the Player. This is among the more sound entries here.

Mages transfer from Individuals to the World. Maybe Sollux's sacrifice to propel the meteor fits this, and the Disciples love. I think someone official called Mages a fostering class once, which feels more like Individual helping Individual to me.

Seers transfer from the World to the Team. Seers seem to chiefly work on an information basis, so while this feels like the right shape of the Seer's powers it's not in the right ballpark.

Bards render teams Unusable. Yep, gotta go with this.

Maids restore Unusuable Players, or unusuable things to Players. This obviously fits Jane like a glove but Porrim and Aradia are drawing blanks.

Witchs transfer from Players to the Team. I can feel hints of this from Feferi and Jade but nothing strong. How does The Handmaid fit into this? How can its influence be distinguished from Player to the World (ie Mage)?

1/2
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>>81513280
>that and a ton of other things were out of character (tavros fighting LE)
Did you miss his character development earlier?
>vriska sitting back and watching the entire time
Did you miss Hussie fighting her?
>were basically glorified fan art
I would have preferred him to have drawn all the art but I don't see a problem with the art since it looked pretty good.
>And it's obvious with the number of loose ends that didn't/won't be tied up that hussie checked out a long time ago
The comic isn't over. And what specifically are you referring to?
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>>81513280
It was only one half of 30 minute flash anon. Other would be used on Vriska.
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>>81513291
>ragebeast
....?
you mean the little bitch crying in a fridge?
and the other characters weren't fucking 1/3 of lil cal.
or are you about to go full Bro apologist too?
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>>81513026
It looks a lot nicer here in full than in the animation, where it's detailed and well animated but clashes with the other sprites.
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>>81513280
>r (tavros fighting LE, vriska sitting back and watching the entire time).
Uh.Tavrois went a long way, what he did is in perfect continuation of his character progression.

and Vriska didn't sit out. She had to fight against Hussie.
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The Mobius Double Reacharound Virus is a ~ATH program which Sollux wrote and shared with Karkat. This code, when executed, immediately causes the user's computer to explode and places a curse on the user forever, along with everyone he knows and everyone he'll ever meet.

It's like pottery, it rhymes
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>>81513280
>nothing really happened

When will this meme end?

We've known for a long time EOA6 was largely going to be this fight. The description on Youtube even describes it specifically as "the final battle of Homestuck". And it's not over yet, we know we're getting another decently-sized flash, which will be devoted entirely to the story.
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>>81512583
She did say she peaked into the future, anon. And we all know the kids triumph here so that they can later get their asses kicked by Caliborn.
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>>81513348
iknowright?.jpeg
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>>81513269
haha holy fuck, did she actually got to do lewd camshows or just teasing?
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>>81513280
>tavros fighting LE
>out of character
--> >>81510510

>vriska sitting back
she was busy getting harassed by orange dude.
which is a good thing, hussie is the one who gives her all the screen time and sometimes he's got to be the one who won't let her hijack the show.
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>>81513361
Why did Sollux decide to do that right before the big game they were gonna play?
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>>81511822

There'll probably be another animation at least, looking at the most recent news post

>and I think make for a nice runway leading up to the final animations.

Either that's a typo or there are multiple
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>>81513280
I agree
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>>81513322
Knights transfer the World into the Unusuable. Seems a bit grim. Knights are cynical and project a false outer self but I wouldn't characterise them as this destructive. They're more defensive from what I've seen.

Pages transfer from the unusuable to the world. Not seeing how Pages draw from things that don't work either.

All in all a positive mixed bag, nothing outrights smacks of wrong and several thing seem perfect but other stuff is weak. Last question, what of the Lord and Muse?

>>81512990
Greek philosophy delved into geometry and perfect shapes of various sorts, and how they evolve into each other, or are connected, and so on. That big conspiracy image covers a lot of that stuff. The Battlefield's ever increasing shape is a part tribute to this, as well as a general dimensional thing. Stuff concerning dice, anything coordinates/geometry and so on are connected.
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>>81513342
Why are tripfags so retarded
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>>81513410
He can predict the future. Kind of.
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>>81513410
he's a dick
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>>81513185
so what you're telling me is that an incoherent bundle of rage, one who had enough power to nearly kill the black king, and who wants to murder all of his friends, it's currently sitting in the refrigerator crying

>>81513342
I meant caliborn you idiot, the person that makes up most of LE andwas in lil cal too, thus also possessing gamzee
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I wonder what the budget for this thing was?
Like most of Homestuck is literally zero budget, but this flash had like 20 contributors. It must have cost a least something.
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>>81511084

press f to pay respects
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>>81513436
>mfw i realzied davepeta is karkats dream (wo)man
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>>81513084
So you're telling me that Jake English's online handle happening to include Golgotha, an ancient word meaning "Place of the Skull", is just pure coincidence? Come on anon, give Hussie credit.

>>81513086
This is the opposite error of >>81512703. Don't assume Hussie has literally included everything perfectly in reference form within the comic, don't assume it's empty nothing either.
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>>81513426
Cubes are 100% better than wheels.
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>>81513461
The contributers DO IT FOR FREE
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Sum up the flash in Five words or less.
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>>81512825
Cal is the pimp that shall enter the crib, thus allowing Dave to drop his ass like it was hot.
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>Jade teleports the dogs and herself to the LOFAF
>When Serenity flies by shes suddenly back on prospit.

LITERALLY
UNREADABLE
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>>81513437
>Karkat's one victory isn't even his
Like POTTERY
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>>81513484
oh god i came everywhere
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>>81513484
Vriska was right
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>>81513484
pow, right in the kisser
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>>81513459
he's a fucking purpleblood
they are genetically made to be violent motherfuckers for three quarters of the time
we saw this when he sobered up from slime pie
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>>81513484
STRIFE STRIFE STRIFE STRIFE Jade
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>>81513475
>Cubes are 100% better than wheels.
You take that back you piece of shit
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>>81513484
Doesn't stop from getting taller.
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>>81513484
it just fucking works
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>>81513484
Rest in peace, Spades Slick
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I can't wait for pewdiepie to do a Homestuck game play through
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>>81513484
SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME
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>>81513461
Hussie lost more than you might understand. A sizeable chunk of the Kickstarter funding, his dad, seven years of his life, and everything else pale in comparison to the real price he had to pay to make it this far.
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>>81513484
ha ha jane is dead
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Is Huss going to put the flash on the website eventually?
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>>81513484
Loose end villain mop up.
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>>81513280
why the fuck is everyone ignoring the fact that Dirk got his fucking head chopped of?
I mean there is a possibility that he will come back because that's what happens on the claymations shit but maybe caliborn changed things since he said he "learned about that outcome" and Lord English can still be made without the original Dirk being alive because Jake's ghost Dirk is still a thing.
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>>81513484
that's a good mcguffin boy
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>>81513477
Seriously? I'm sure I heard somewhere that they were commissioned.
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>>81513484
Good flash, mediocre conclusion.
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>>81513544
He's still got his free Jane resurrection, doesn't he?
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>>81513475
Having thoroughly experimented with both:

a) I agree

b) They ain't got nothing on Toruses

(another old junk model, but less old and junky than the others)
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>>81513540
Is there even a flash? Was the video made in flash?
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>>81513544
Nah, seems pretty unlikely he won't just be resurrected.
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>>81513536
what happened to the money?
like I've heard all sorts of shit but no real answer?
>>81513544
listen. been there done that. his head is like a damn ken doll. pop off, put it back
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>>81513540
It's 18 minutes long, it might be too much hassle.
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>>81513540
It makes more sense to NOT use flash for a straight up video. No issues with the site shitting itself, don't actually have to host it, and it's mobile friendly.
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>Kanaya just punching condy
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>>81513484
WOW

IT'S FUCKING

N O T H I N G
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>>81513510
and you honestly think that if he wanted to he couldnt just break out of the fridge?
that's what it sounds like to me, it sounds like you're calling him a violent and powerful troll who can't even break out of refrigerator, because he's too busy crying
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>>81513484
Just let it die already
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>>81513426
> nothing outrights smacks of wrong and several thing seem perfect but other stuff is weak.
Yeah. It was kind of old model. It is very hard to come up with a unification scheme that doesn't just describes 6 pairs of randomly picked roles.
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>>81513567
jane's dead senpai
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>>81513536
How old is Hussie again? Last I checked he was in his mid thirties
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>>81513540
Probably, he clearly made a loading screen for it.
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>>81513544
They brought him back through time-mind majjyks.
It might be a Dirk from another timeline, actually. But no one is going to care.

>>81513541
underrated post.
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>>81513459
Because he is fucking crazy, that fucker can go from completely relaxed and normal to motherfucking ragemode in a second because he has some sort of 2 personalities or some shit like that
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>>81513577
The studio he hired to make Hiveswap used the funding they were given to make a King's Quest sequel instead of the game they were payed to make.
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>>81513577
>what happened to the money?
have you heard of a game called King's Quest?
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>>81513582
Why didn't Rose luck the fuck out of Vriskafucker so John could Ancestral Awaken
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>>81513607
Like 36. Which is fucking crazy because he still looks like he's 25
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>>81513571
Wew lad. Now we're using graphics to display measurements about visual media.
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>>81513636
sheeeeeeeit
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE

Sawtooth
Squarewave
DD
Drollgorg
Erisol
Gcatavros
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>>81513643
>seer lucking things out
pls
maybe in a fraymotif with Dave
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>>81513643
>Ancestral Awaken
>Implying that's even John's ultimate roll.
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>>81513664
Who cares
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>>81513592
I'll give it credit for its interconnectedness and simplicity. (my own effort to interconnect all the roles was massively more complex) I just don't think it ultimately survives Occam's Razor.
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>>81513649
What anime is this?
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>>81513671
What was the point of this part, anyway?
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WHERE
IS
FEDORA
FREAK
HES A GODDAM GOD TIER
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>>81513669
Fine

Dadly Awakening
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>>81513584
This just shows that with the exception of maybe two characters a x2 design is best.
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>>81513595
Nah, last we saw her, she was getting chocked by the Condesce before the latter dropped her on the ground. Didn't look like the same motion as when she broke Aranea's neck, so she's probably fine, just unconscious from asphyxiation.
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>>81513664
>who knows
>who knows
>who knows
>who knows
>daaots
>sleeping
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>>81513666
Man I wanna see a fraymotif between Rose and Dave
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>>81513577
>his head is like a damn ken doll, pop off, put it back
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>>81513645
Damn, he's only 12 years older than me. ipgd was wrong saying he's like 40. I think the comic has definitely aged him, compare some recent selfies with older stuff
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>>81510123
gud
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>>81513682
Symphogear. I haven't watched it, though.
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>>81513699
I want to see the Fraymotif between the original 4 kids. It would probably be an insane 20 minute long cutscene attack.
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>>81513685
so we can see how far they've come
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>>81513595
She shows up fine later for the brawl against Caliborn, anon. Don't put too much stock into what
>>81513544
said. Or if that's you, don't put your cart before the horse. Dirk can easily be brought to life again so long as Jane is alive, so if your entire theory is dependent upon the idea that Jane unambiguously died, then it's crap from the get go.
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>>81513698
>daaots
He can't be dead and out of the story. He still has to go back and exist near Jake while he gets his Lolipop.
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>>81513685
to remind you of how far they've come
it's also literal, since they are inside the house juju.
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>>81513699
i wanna see a makeout between dave and rose
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>>81513649
Man, I wish 3D graphing software was more readily available. It would kill Simpson's Paradox stone dead.
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>>81513699
>just outright select the best possible timeline
alright
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I honestly though this flash would COMPLETELY end the plot and Act 7 would just be them on neo-earth relaxing.
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>>81513685
nostalgia pandering
That's what the entire flash is
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>>81513484
slick does nothing and dies
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>>81513723
>knowing it but not watching it
>spoon feeding when I wasn't going to say
Bruh
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>>81513727
>>81513733
Oh, right. The juju. That makes it a nice touch.
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>>81513726
It's gonna happen aganist LE. Mark my words.
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>that part where it zooms in on prospit timed to the music
muh dick
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>>81513688
10/10
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>>81513744
>he thinks this isn't a fakeout curtain
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>>81513744
That was a silly thing to expect
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It was shit.
t. Kid Blueperson.
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>>81513664
What is the purpose of GCATavrosprite
When Callie destroys the green sun he won't have any powers anymore
There was the whole thing about him overcoming his allergy but then nothing happened
He's worse off than every other character right now
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>>81513744
Wishful thinking.

If anything it looks like Homestuck is heading for a downer ending, if that ominous-as-fuck ending indicates anything.
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>>81513699
I wanna see the fully animated Adagio Redshift and what does it exactly do
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>>81513744
>COMPLETELY end the plot
>LE is still fucking shit up
>Alt Cali is still gonna do something fucking crazy
>B1 kids still need to get trapped in the Juju
>Vriska still needs to unleash them out.
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>>81513744
I take it you haven't been reading the news updates
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009832

We know what Jade's about to do, at least.
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>>81513789
to make sure gcat was out if the way
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>>81513080

Karkat can't go god tier though, his dreamself is fucked.
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>>81510360
hot af
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>>81513789
The only reason Vriska created GCATavrosprite was to neutralise another of the exceedingly poweful wildcard element, to ensure it didn't fuck up her strategy in some way.
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>>81513484
good strife, featuring shitty wizards
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>>81513821
>implying PM won't toss the ring in on her own
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What was your favorite moment of the flash, /hst/?
For me it was on 13:10
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>>81513109

But I hate you.
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>>81513669
>Implying it ain't
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>>81513840
Death beds bro. Roxy just needs to think one up into existence.
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>>81513821
If she can get the ring back from PM, that is.

The black hole from Union Jack's death also seems like it will interfere. There's already no grist coming from LOTAK since Dirk's house was destroyed.
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>>81513840
>dream selves being relevant to god tiering
Dude, you're kind of behind on how this works
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>>81513783
I don't expect Homestuck to end with the kids still fucking around in Sburb, so I really think there will be some degree of time spent with them adjusting to new lives. Or maybe it will end like Hyperion, if anyone's read that. But even Hyperion had a sequel.
>>81513820
What did I miss?
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>>81513874
Well, maybe there was enough grist sent from lotak already. It was probably being sent for a good while before it exploded.
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If you think that homestuck ends with anyone but the OG 4 alive....
oh buddy
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>>81513715

Pretty sure the ridiculous tramp beard is what's aged him.
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>>81513821
I'm still kinda concerned about PM becoming evil, maybe she will let the power get to her head with the 2 rings on and she will have a crazy fight with Jade
>>
Reminder that we still have no idea how long Act 7 is actually gonna be and still have roughly 12+ minutes of animation left.
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>>81513933
>Jane and Dirk are dead
>Roxy is cursed
>Jake is shit
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>>81513946
Well there's like ten people available to fight her if so.
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>>81513789
>When Callie destroys the green sun he won't have any powers anymore
That's why he won't let it happen.
TRUE FINAL BOSS
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>>81513952
Reminder that Davekat is endgame.
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>>81513958

Jane is knocked out and will revive Dirk as soon as she comes to.
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>>81513887

I'm the speedreader, so yeah, I may have missed something.

As far as I understand you need to have a quest bed or your dreamself intact to go God. The world that the trolls are from is gone, so no quest bed (unless Rose makes one with Void powers).
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>>81513952
Reminder that they already cut most of those flashback sequences someone linked up there.
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>>81513109
I started reading this shit like 2 months ago and I haven't made any friend at all because of it. If anything it made some of my friends be annoyed at how much I insisted in them reading this trash
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>>81513933
If you think John won't find a way to tag Roxy along you're not following this right
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>>81513990
They need a quest bed either way, so that's really the only relevant factor.
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>>81510813
Couldn't he just zap anytime a teammate got hurt and prevent it?
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>>81513958
>Roxy is cursed
wait, what?
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>>81513978
I will be so goddamn happy if the middle column bites it you don't even know
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>>81513990
>Rose makes one with Void powers).
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>yfw the real endgame is hussie killing GRRM and Jon snow being put on a quest bed to become god tier and defeat lord english wit the white walkers
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Imagine Vriska and/or (Vriska)'s face when she learns Tavros fought LE 1v1, tapdanced on his face and lived
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>>81513978
Condy is already dead my shitty tripfag
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>>81514025
When the Condesce killed the Handmaid, she gained her powers but was bound to serve LE.
There's a chance it might pass on to Roxy.
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>>81514051
while she was doing fucking NOTHING, to boot
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>>81514057
well it was a blank one
heres my chart
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>Dave finally broke Bro's Unbreakable Katana
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>>81513026
he got some sick combos on travos
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>>81510360
right in the ovaries
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>>81514051
>>81514075
At least they can both laugh how fucking worthless Karkat is and bully him
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>>81514108
>yionks bopnch
what did she mean by this
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My only problem with the flash is that some of the tension wasn't even there as long as John was alive. I mean if shit really shit the fan or anybody died he could just retcon them back to life.
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>Stabbed through the back
>Die
>Lose shit load of limbs
>Bleed everywhere
>still live

I dont get trolls
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>Homosuck is almost over
FINALLY
TIME FOR ME TO CATCH UP FROM THE BEGINNING
4 YEARS I WASTED ON THIS FUCKING WEBCOMIC
I FINALLY DROPPED IT 3 YEARS AGO WHEN THE HIATUS SHIT HAPPENED TO FOCUS ON COLLEGE
BUT NOW IT'S FUCKING TIME TO CATCH UP
H A P P E N I N G
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>>81514087
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>>81513892
Why don't you just go on the website and read?
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>>81514087
that's because:
caledeflwch is made with the cueball
or
the sword is a juju and the one roxy brought with her is actually the real one
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>>81513134
Sauce please!!!
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>>81514139
Blood loss is apparently small time injuries for higher-bloods
Getting stabbed in the chest is a critical hit though
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>>81514026
>happy if Karkat and PM die
you fookin wot m8
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>>81513934
And the permanent frown/thousand mile stare
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>>81514155
>the sword is a juju and the one roxy brought with her is actually the real one
Ooh, didn't think of that.
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>>81512645
ZAP, MUTHAFUCKA
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So basically Jade was useless in this flash.
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>>81514138
John didn't even make lot's of him which he can undue or make another of himself, watch the fight, see what they did wrong or right and go back and explain to the team while helping.
Freedom is not just a meme it's meme magic, now.
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>>81514217
This comic is really racist.
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remember when everyone thought Jake was going to get fucked up and casey would save him?
remember when casey's skeleton army just walked through the fight?
remember?
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I like how Roxy learned to conjure wizards thanks to combining her powers with Rose's in a fraymotif.
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>>81514178
Karkat less so than any of them but I guess it's great seeing him suffer.

PM is only tolerable because she's not a speaking character; she's really just as bad as Kanaya in that she has made absolutely no mistakes ever and everyone respects her. Also, having FG powers on a person that isn't an antagonist is a BIG mistake.
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>>81514237
She got jack's guard down
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>>81514237
If condy got word of her being awake she would have been much worse than useless. They got lucky all things considered.
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>>81514257
please leave
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>>81514051
He's not out of the woods yet
LE looks like he's about to do some crazy bullshit
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>>81514138
Homestuck hasn't had any stakes since Act 4. Act 5 had the Dream Bubbles, which made death mostly meaningless. Act 6 had LE, sure, but he never did much except blow up some ghosts every now and then, and never relevant ones.
Act 6 also had Jane, who can apparently revive everyone once.
John being able to retcon anything into working out is just icing on the cake.

>>81514139
There's obviously a vital organ in the chest, come on.
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>>81514285
I hope we get to see Jade, Jane and Dirk in the dream bubbles.
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>>81514087
Good ol' Dragonball callback. Glad they went with the more distinctive, less direct version too.
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well, condy didn't even wake up and mind control GCATavros. i'm sorta disappointed.
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:o(
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>>81514311
I wish dream bubbles were introduced or alluded to a bit sooner in the story.
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>>81514335
Well the whole plan was to keep her distracted with combat so she couldn't start mind-controlling people again.
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This flash really makes you want to feel bad for Bec Noir but the asshole had it deserved after all the people he's killed
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>>81514311
at the same time, until now the dream bubbles have been an inconvenience
LE has literally been destroying reality
Bec Noir is an ukillable unstoppable boss (until now)
Jane can only bring back ONCE in a fight against literal gods
John's retcon powers end when he enters the juju

i still don't get how the caliborn fight is apparently after they fight LE ..... bt they still lose?
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>>81514337
Get fucked clown
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MONTHS
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>>81514337
destroy cloun
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>>81514337
Last time we saw the fridge it was on LOTAK, and... >>81511018
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PM is like the manifestation of lawful good, holy shit.
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>>81514058
Now THAT would be a plot twist. Maybe that's why they leave Condy's death for the final moment
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>>81514402
I'm sure he's fine
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>>81514402
hoh shit I hope you're right
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>>81514409
Yeah, they're so happy and then the flash ended abruptly. I hope Roxy gets cursed. I've been expecting this for a while now (it was predictable) and I hope it pays out.
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>>81513201
I don't apologise for him, Gamzee murdering everyone is a beautiful thing to behold.
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>>81514372
>but they still lose?
they aren't trapped inside the juju forever, just until Vriska unwittingly lets them out when he tries to 'use' the 'weapon'.

Most likely LE is the one who sends them back in time to fight himself as Caliborn, because he knows that he has to complete the time loop to maintain his origin story
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>>81514402
Mhmm.
Clown Status = down, or otherwise just hurtling through empty space locked in a refridgerator
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>>81514402
People in fridges have been known to survive cataclysms.
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>>81514429
The black hole might be how earth and Gamzee get to Caliborn's universe.
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>Almost entire flash is dedicated to combat that is shown on screen
>It's all in sprite form or similar to sprite form (Even more than flashes like Jade: Enter)
>Fucking Freymotifs
>No retarded psychouts

I can't fucking believe it.
Hussie actually managed to make it good.
What the fuck. Did we return to the Alpha Timeline?
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>>81514402
havn't you seen Indiana Jones?
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KARKAT VS (KARKAT) FUCKING WHEN
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>>81510360
It's okay to be turned on by this, right?
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>>81514337
when is this piece of shit going to die already? He's too dangerous to just leave him locked, they should've straight killed him just like Eridan
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>>81514477
falling through the black hole is most likely how he ends up on the relocated Earth to raise the cherubs
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>>81514489
HS is no longer doomed
>>81514494
heh kek
>>81514507
>pic realred
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http://imgur.com/a/D475s
Looks like Adrienne did all the fucking storyboaring/visualization. And he got someone else to do all the compositing.

What he hell did Hussie even do? Or was he working on act 7 instead?
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>>81514559
>he
wot
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>>81514559
he directed
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Putting it on youtube to avoid crashing the servers was definitely a good idea but I hope the flash gets uploaded to mspa at some point.
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>>81514402
Lord English still needs to be made buddy, but maybe the explosion only destroyed one half of his body and the other one is floating around getting ready to be part of LE
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>>81514559
Adrienne is BEST ARTIST. She's the best thing ever to happen to Homestuck. It's a pity it happened so late in the comic.
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>>81514609
>Hussie
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>>81514559
>tually managed to make it good.
He directed and scripted the whole thing.

He is a Webcomic director, now.
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>>81514508
>Hating on best clown
fuck off
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>>81514507
It's as okay as being turned on by this
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Who was the Rogue of Heart?

Looked cool as fuck.
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>>81514623
You can see the "skip to X part" at the beginning of the animation, so it's definitely supposed to be a flash on our end.
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>>81514559
He wrote what was meant to happen, corrected peoples assets, and presumably organised the whole thing.
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It occured to me that Nanna is just hovering there, smiling and watching the bitch that made her childhood miserable get pounded
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>>81514337

#freethecloun
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>>81514654
Naptap.
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>>81514559
She really needs to make her own thing when Homestuck is done, she is pretty damn tallented and who knows maybe she could be the next Toby Fox
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>>81514559
GHOST

WRITERS
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>>81514654
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>>81514623
Yeah, it'd be nice to see it with less compression, even if it does have a killer load time.
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>>81513946
that victory howl is ominous as fuck
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>>81514653
is Rose actually blushing there?
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>>81514675
>first thing she does when she sees her long lost "brother" is zap him up a pile of cookies
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>>81514559
I hope hussie is paying her a lot, although the boost of popularity that she is getting thanks to this is the best pay she could get
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>>81513994

Most of us have been reading it for many years, and for most of that time it was way more popular than it is now. You also kind of need to post somewhere that isn't anonymous to make friends. Or go to conventions.
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>>81514641
No one likes Gamzee here anon, well I mean a lot of people do like him as a character, but he is definitively an evil jerk
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>>81514675
Well finally there is people is making gifs out of this
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i still think the whole "kids being captured in the house" thing is stupid
especially when john later uses it for the retcon powers
like
meh
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>>81514559
A lot of the composition is pretty boring but I can look past that for the amazing reaction from Crowbar
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I hate midnight releases because if you're one of the motherfuckers that stayed up the extra couple of hours when you fall asleep and wake up there's nothing new and then you have to wait until you're unconscious again for new shit.
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>>81514801
> Gamzee
> evil
he was just misunderstood
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Anyone got the mp3 320k/flac of the new album?
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>>81514867
the house is to the comic what the Troll Universe frog was to Sn0wman.
They weren't actually trapped in it, just Caliborn thinks, they just became one with the comic for a moment then got spat back out again
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>>81514912
It was posted in a thread. Go search the archive.
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Anybody got a gif of Tavros kicking LE
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>>81514903
I'm just gonna hope you are baiting here
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https://spellmynamewithabang.bandcamp.com/album/stuckhome-syndrome-part-one-v1-years-in-the-past
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>>81514108
i've had this gif in my folder for years, and I finally get to use it.
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So the video already hit 70,000 views. How many views do you guys think it will get in the end?
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>>81515011
At least 100,000 by the end of the day.
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>>81514937
Found it, thank you very much.
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>>81515011
Only 70k? The Homestuck fandom has really died hasn't it?
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>>81513671
>http://paperseverywhere.tumblr.com/post/142336711253/heres-the-initial-sequence-for-the-beta-kids
What the shit hussie, this looks 10 times better than what we got in the end, specially the face that we get to see how the kids actually grew up a lot physically on all of that time
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>>81515011
How reliable are those numbers, anyway?
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Where was the Shrek?
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How the fuck do we fix Karkat Vantass?
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>>81514897
Yeah I was just gonna say
>still gotta wait till tomorrow for the next upd8
AUGH
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Outright revealing the confrontation with Caliborn was a mistake, zero tension for this flash because of it.
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>>81515110
In the dreambubbles with an Eridan on his shoulder
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>>81513671
Oh man, that was so much better.
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>>81515132
timestamp?
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>>81515079
isn't 100k unique IPs each month the peak readership?
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>>81515086
>>81513671
What the fuck, that looks far better than what was used in the flash. Fuck you hussie.
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>>81515113
>tfw european
>update right when I wake up

>>81515156
10:57~58
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>>81514675
>Kan was useless
Embarrassing desu
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>All of these fraymoitifs on toasty's tumblr
Now I really want a fighting game, fuck.
http://toastyhat.tumblr.com/
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>>81514897
are you sure you're unable to stay up till midnight? because it's really not that difficult to do.
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>>81515156
During the scrap with Lord English when he summons the Trollnado.
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>>81515160
Not him but didn't it have a huge following back in the day? Cascade made Newgrounds crash for example, and I think it would take more than 100k people to do that. But who knows, maybe their servers are garbage.
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>>81515175
they ran out of time I think
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>>81515105
They are exact numbers, the countdown only has problems around the first 5k views but at this point they are pretty accurate. But this is pretty normal, viral videos start like the first days and around a week they get millions of views. I don't think this one is gonna be thaat popular but I'm sure it will get a fair good bunch of views.
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>condy didn't mindcontrol kanaya with scorpio powers to chop a lalonde in half

shame desu
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>>81515079
It might have seemed big, but I don't think it was ever really that big. It just had really rabid fans and a lot of cosplayers.
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>>81515127
maybe he's lulling you into a false sense of security
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>>81515175
He should've made the effort to at least show them as kids and now as teenagers like on that animation. Just that would've make it much better.
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>>81515195
That's wasn't what I was saying at all.
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(for some reason this didn't post 20 mins ago when I typed it)

>>81514626
It's true, Adrienne Garcia's stuff for PXS and such is top notch, along with Mal Dyer

>>81514637
Damn, now that could be a cool career
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>>81510872
I was just wondering why it was a bullet hell. Isn't undertale an RPG?

If there's a bullet hell segment in it my respect for it increased a little. Not enough to buy it, but...

Al things considered, this flash was great and hussie did a good job not letting anyone properly fuck it up.
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>>81515257
Yeah, jade's boobs weren't big enough
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>>81515258
then what were you saying at all
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>>81515192
With all of those assets programming one would be pretty easy mate, I would try to look for some tutorials and do it but I'm pretty bussy with other side projects although getting some free homestuck popularity boost thanks to it would be nice
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>>81515206
Cascade wasn't peak popularity at all. That wasn't until the Kickstarter.
We never went below pre Cascade levels (according to google) through all the hiatuses.
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Davekat is endgame
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>>81515323
After he killed Slick?
Yeah right
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>>81515293
>pretty easy
yeah no

>>81515192
Why the fuck does Nanna pummel roxy and john with whiteware?
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>>81515347
it's an AOE attack and they were standing too close
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>>81515283
That it sucks I gotta sleep two times instead of one for new content.
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>>81515300
oh really?
I'm pretty sure the 100k figure is from cascade times.
>>81515206
do note that there was probably 2-3 times the monthly readership viewing it during the first day.
serving an upwards of 30 terabytes in a day isn't an easy task for any server
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Did someone ever sum up Act 6 up until the most recent updates? I can't remember every important detail that was brought up.
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>>81515347
Don't ask me, I'm still cumming from these animations
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>>81515393
was that in the flash
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>>81515393
I hope we get more fraymotifs in the next flashes.
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>>81515393
what
when was this even used?
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>>81515427
I don't think so. There seems to be a lot of cut attacks.
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>>81515393
>starmotif
suddenly random scribbles
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>>81515377
oh, fair
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Man I might as well post some of these that we didn't see.
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i accidentally named my dog after homestuck dog and it's really fucking confusing
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>>81515486
Is there a full list?
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>>81515522
holy shit
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>>81515522
Reminds me of that gif from Totally Spies.
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>>81515546
Mostly got them from Toasty's animation tag.
http://toastyhat.tumblr.com/tagged/my-animation
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>>81515535
wat
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>>81515535
>accidentally
how do you do something like that by accident
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>>81515499
It suddenly occurs to me that Pedigree Mendogant punching Jade out is reminiscent of the latest TF2 comic

Where Zanna knocks out Ms. Pauling to get through to the Blue Demoman

Pretty good concept if you ask me
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>>81515546
All in here bro
http://toastyhat.tumblr.com

I'm just been going through and saving them myself
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>>81515486
>physically drags out iterations of yourself through time/space with damage and slaps them all together
KISS!
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>>81515005
She's clearly punching her in the stomach. You can even see the energy going through her back
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>no Hope fraymotifs
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The important question: how many levels are they getting from these battles? What kind of sickass badges will they unlock?

does Dirk even get any exp?
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>>81510123

Just saw it. Hussie's still got it.

I absolutely loved the use of sprites in the fight, it reminded me of the old Strifes. The crazy combination attacks were wonderful too.
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>>81515704
Collecting multiple self memories and amalgamating them into one experienced motherfucker? That's you on Heart+Time.
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>>81515593
well not really an "oops i dropped the baby" accident but more of a "how people are born" accident
i didn't think anyone would actually go with the name i just said it as a joke
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Also some sprites from Papers
http://paperseverywhere.tumblr.com/
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>>81515738
No Hope buddy! If Jake has another fight with someone else, maybe we'll witness some.
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so
>jake the new Spades
>Roxy the new Condy
>Ghosts are dead
>Karkat and kana may go god tier, or die. 50/50
>John still hasn't done the windy thing
>dirk dead
>Jane dead or passed out
>terrazzo with dave sometime
>gamzee in the black hole probably
>jack noir presumed dead
>mayor still mayor
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>>81514153
I obviously have
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>>81515393
this is strangely cute
a dorky fraymotif for dorky friends
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>>81515659
oh my god roxy's the best
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>>81515704
Those look like the trollian timeline markers
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>>81515867
That's clearly a punpkin rose, no one else has a head that gourd-like
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>>81515267
>If there's a bullet hell segment in it my respect for it increased a little
The entire game plays like a mini bullet-hell game, it's how you dodge attacks
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so how many times have you rewatched it?

I think I'm at 4, going for a 5 as soon as I'm out of work
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>>81515906
they practically have the same head
and that's roxy doing a voidy thing to make a pumpkin dummy
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>>81510639
This was the most disgusting, unwarranted thing I have ever seen in Homestuck
I hate it with every fiber of my being, there was no fucking reason for Hussie or whoever wrote this to twist the nipples of Toby in Homestuck's probably most important Flash
I'm surprised there wasn't much backlash against it, it was fucking disgraceful
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>>81515957
izza joke nugga
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>>81515967
>or whoever wrote this

You mean Toby
Because Toby and Temmie made it
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>>81515967
I can't get really mad at the controversial joke character having a controversial joke moment desu
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anyone else REALLY want davepeta and jasprose to die?
painfully?
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>>81515967
but anon there is backslash
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>>81511211
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003831
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>>81515951
Two.
>>81515967
Stop sperging. References to stuff are really nothing new in Homestuck.
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>All the kids and trolls do their normal quick flippy shit for movement
>The condesce and LE have big out of place overanimated walking cycles
Who thought this was okay
Even hussie saw the problem becaise they're only used once each in the entire thing
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>>81516010
everyone else.
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>>81510872
Toby did a large portion of the music for HS and Tuyoki/Temmie did art for both HS and UT. Having a blatant reference to UT in HS really isn't that surprising.
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>>81515826
>>81515393
>rose trying to do an elegant magic star thing
>john's antics turns it to scribbles
Makes me think of how much fun they had together
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>>81515822
Then reread, you cannot possibly miss this a second time
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>>81515951
i watched it once, homosomo is shit bruv
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>>81515967
Undertale, Homestuck and Shrek share one universe anyway
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>>81516037
Have you never seen a beat em up boss before
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>>81516032
Look up diegetic
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>>81516037
>being this much of a pleb
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>>81515826
Remember when John and Rose were friends?
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>>81515951
once was enough
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>>81516090
Yes, I have
And they totally look the part
Which is why they're out of place
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>>81516139
>>81516053
stop being this pleb

>>81516033
you too, a bit less
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>>81516148
they're bosses, not players
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>>81516010
I don't, I love them. holy shit jasprose was cute jumping around with her little wands this fight
but I know I'm in the minority there
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http://bladekindeyewear.tumblr.com/post/40399609957/the-green-suns-destruction

I'd like this theory to be true.

Is there any chance for John/Vriska endgame?
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>>81516169
>I'd like this theory to be true.
>BKEW
PICK ONE
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>>81516037
Very appropriate if you consider what the largest influences to Homestuck originally were.
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>>81516135
I don't have to remember because they still are
Like what? They've been talking to each other nonstop in recent updates
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>>81514653
>rose barely comes up to condy's waist
holy shit )(IC is fucking huge in this pic.
...hot.

>>81516169
the theory is shit and so is your ship
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>>81516168
they're OP, silly, and eem immortal and overtly strong
like stop. sprites are strong already. The super powerful beings that get you through most of the game then go and disappear before the final boss so you can win on your own
at the end of Halo, cortana doesn't become a giant mech to kill the boss of the game
she always disappears for some reason
they're just not....good
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>>81516037
beat em up bosses work exactly the same
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>>81516202
You mean Undertale? Seems nothing like it.
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>>81515967
When I saw it, I thought it was an earthbound ref. (never played undertale).

I really don't see the issue there. From the very start, Homestuck has been doing earthbound ref, which undertale is based on (or so have I heard).

What is wrong with two artists who are friend and have worked close together for years to refer each other's work?

I really see zero reason to get mad.
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>>81514439
Roxy getting cursed gives John motivation to 1v1 LE
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>>81516260
Remember that part when sburb was played by the rules?

ME NEITHER
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>>81516273
Eathbound.
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