JSA Storytime: Rann/Thanagar Holy War

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>>81491041
I just spent time on Twitter arguing on behalf of Deathstroke and I don't even like Deathstroke

But at one point someone said I am thinking of violent antiheroes and there are too many to mention." and I tried listing them off, and how many starring-in-an-action-oriented-book violent anti-heroes are there right now?

>>81491041
Hello Storyteller.

>Rann/Thanagar Holy War
They're still fight? STOP FUCKING FIGHTING.

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>>81491142
Missed a quote, there:

"I am thinking of violent antiheroes and there are too many to mention." is 100% something that requires a list to justify.

>>81491142
Wolverine, Deadpool, and Harley would be my instinctive list, without checking what's currently being published.

>>81491142
>>81491226
Most arguments like that are really "not enough of what I want" rather than "there's too much x"

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>>81491226
https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/717466357860663296

The Deathstroke rant was occasioned by yet another person saying "It's awful that LOWW won't continue [even though they said they don't know yet they're just being pessimistic] but there's a Deathstroke book. Who cares about Deathstroke?"

>>81491273
that's a good start; I think Deadpool and Harley both slide into a bit different niche because of the humor/fourth-wall factor. Griffles counted but got canceled; I guess Red Hood counts, but that's a team book and I don't know how anti- the hero is these days.

>>81491273
And the latter are played more for comedy rather than trying to be hardasses like the typical antihero

>>81491273
Laura is not really an antihero, is she?

Deadpool seems right and I suppose RHATO counts? Harley isn't really an anti-hero in her solo, I guess you could argue that she is in Suicide Squad

Would Midnighter count as an anti-hero?

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>>81491308
this new Thanagarian religion sounds kind of Ferengi

>>81491142
Black Widow, Midnighter?

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>>81491402
Middy and Deathstroke are some pretty close demographics/niches, IMO. I myself would angle them differently by playing on the crazy sci-fi stuff with Middy and other WSers as his supporting cast, and being more real-world gritty with Mr. Stroke.

>>81491402
Are Deadpool and Harley in action books?

>>81491308
I'm in the camp that doesn't care about Deathstroke but cares about Priest doing Big Two work, so yeah.

I'd usually add Punisher to that list but is he even in anything right now? Ditto the more Liefeldian X-Men (although that is an era I haven't read much of, and I'm not really following the current X-line so I can't really comment on that anyway).

>>81491308
And I see I was right >>81491286

It sucks about LoWW, but I don't see why you would target Deathstroke given that Priest is a good writer and actively wants to do it for his first comics job in years. At least point to a more obviously shitty book that doesn't sell if you're going to complain.

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>>81491482
One of the people bitching (continually) about what DC is doing hadn't even noticed that Priest was on the book.

>>81491474
Becky Cloonan's writing Frank next.

>>81491452
There's a lot of dudes who you might not expect to be into Middy but would expect to be into Deathstroke who are into Middy.

That said I'm dreading this Wednesday to be honest. Dialogue on /co/ has seemed particularly bitter today regarding racial, sexist shit.

>>81491308
>The Deathstroke rant was occasioned by yet another person saying "It's awful that LOWW won't continue [even though they said they don't know yet they're just being pessimistic] but there's a Deathstroke book. Who cares about Deathstroke?"
Well let's see
Legend of Wonder Woman 2 16,816
Deathstroke 15 26,534
Yeah, that explains that.

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>>81491142
Speaking of, since you asked, I'll share this gem with the rest of the class.

>>81491286
Yeah

Anyway I find it difficult to empathize with people who say shit like that since there are so many comics that exist now so it's mostly a matter of finding what you want and supporting it if you like it, and broadening your horizons to other genres, characters, and publishers

>>81491286
Yeah, blaming Deathstroke for LOWW not getting a sequel is pretty nonsensical because they are two completely different books with disparate audiences

It's like when Talon was going on and I saw people getting pissy that Talon was a book but where was Cass Cain's solo???

>>81491226
Are we seriously coming off Rann/Thanagar religion story into Rann/Thanagar religion story? These were published some time apart, right? With arcs in between?

>>81491541
>a person who only cares about Dick when he's wearing a certain outfit
I've seen /co/ complain about it but I haven't seen it until now

>>81491530
To be fair that isn't a number outside of continuation for DC. The trade sales might boom or bust it.

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>>81491530
here's the twitter thread:

thalestral/status/717138316106326016

>>81491556
2006, then 2008

>>81491541
<3

>>81491402
Laura... She's being Disneyfied really hard, but they still play her as "more violent than necessary."

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>>81491590
Right, the thing is that the LOWW creative kind of went nuclear on the "we haven't been picked up and we think we won't be, call DC and complain" front. And it's been couched very heavily in the language of FOR GREAT JUSTICE/new audiences/etc.--which may be fair, may not, I don't know.

>>81491041
>We Stalin now
Wh-What?

HEY THREAD

LLL

>>81491683
>Captain Comet
>Lady Styx
I remembered, and winced.

>>81491683
I guess they should have come to 4chan and spat venom here instead.

>>81491683
And in about a thousand years, Earth becomes a linchpin of of interplanetary civilization.

Wonder what happened to Thanagar and Tamaran/Rann?

TamaRann?

>>81491590
I would guess the speed in how it has dropped on the digital charts might be a concern. It's below Bombshells the past couple of weeks going by some of these threads (I didn't go back that far though): http://desustorage.org/co/search/subject/comiXology%27s%20Best-Selling%20Comics/

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>>81491703
HI ANON

I wonder if ECCC will bring anything?

also, I approve of the Zemothread

>>81491724
wait, was that in 52?

Are there any good action-centric comics at the big two? Midnighter is the closest I can think of offhand

>>81491683
Considering how the industry works, I don't disagree about asking fans to show the fuck up and represent. We did bitch calmly over Omega Men, and we did get results.

But I'm guessing they expected fans to be rational, good-faith actors and not fuckballs insane, and this is going to kinda-rightfully make them toxic for inciting a shitstorm.

>>81491793
Pretty sure yeah. Think it was part of Animal Man and Starfire's road trip through space w/ Lobo.

>>81491793
>I wonder if ECCC will bring anything?
I'm guessing Vertigo news, there is a Vertigo panel listed and BC's rumor from the other day

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>>81491736
They should have bitched in private and waited graciously in public.

>>81491806
They've done a wonderful job hand-selling the book. But I don't think it's diplomatic to go all out on the 'showing the audience your pitches' and the like when it's not for sure not picked up. THEN, you say "Please show your support".

>>81491794
If you don't mind Valiant, I strongly recommend the recent Valiant back-catalog. Most of their shit is either light-action or hard-action, you can pick according to what kind of tone you want.

>>81491794
I haven't read it but apparently Black Widow #1 was one big action scene

>>81491793
I'm liking Comet less and less.

>>81491590
Oh that's true
I hope the trade sales do well, unlike how the other minis DC's done so far.

But it's also a 9 issue mini that's selling 16k at issue 2, which is pretty disconcerting

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>>81491857
>>81491794
Detailed action art is one of the real skills of sequentials that doesn't get pulled out often enough because it's a lot of work.

>>81491793
>I wonder if ECCC will bring anything?
Vertigo, probably.

And wasn't there some other DC stuff that was promised? like Legion, Shazam, New Gods. They may announce books or them being in other books.

>>81491921
THey've been hinting at LOSH a little bit, but I wouldn't get my hopes up this soon

at least there's always Copra

>>81491858

I think Valiant is good is the craziest/worst meme on /co/. I tried that Lemire/Paolo Riveria mini and just snooooooooooze.

>>81491867

i should check that out.

>>81491794
Black Widow's cold opening is a bit repetitive for the character, but it looked good.

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>>81491902
Okay, we missed some shit, so here it goes:

>A year after the events of Infinite Crisis, Captain Comet was captured and tortured by Lady Styx, forcing him to jettison his primary consciousness from his body before death.[35] His psychic self merged briefly with that of The Weird, which had been drifting in space since his death,[36] and both were revived in new bodies.[31] Captain Comet's new body re-formed at Hardcore Station - with golden eyes, a 20-year-old's physique, and the ability to teleport, although he had lost some strength. Shortening his name to Comet and fostering the misconception that he was his own nephew, he searched for the remains of his old body on Hardcore Station, discovering that it had been stolen by the Eternal Light Corporation Church and he was being hunted by a team of their telepathic assassins.

>>81491932
>Lemire

Well there's your problem.

>>81491867
It looked so cool but it reminded me of how decompressed comics are

>>81491793
>>81491921
PLEASE LET VALENTINE BE ON SOMETHING

PLEASE

anything

>>81491932
>at least there's always Copra
Is Copra still going?

>>81491962
I think great action art is a separate thing from decompression. Mostly.

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>>81491949

Citations:
>52 Week Thirty-One (December 2006)
>The Weird #4 (July 1988)
>Mystery In Space (vol 2) #2 - #4 (December 2006 - February 2007)

>>81491969
She has Xena, at least.

>>81491932
Nigga, Lemire doesn't write every single comic. Harbinger is like what TT would be if it were good, A&A is like getting extra volumes of iHerc.

And there's some fuckers called the HARD Corps, and they're not even male pornstars. I was really unhappy about that

>>81491931
I will tolerate a mediocre to alright Superman event if LOSH shows up.
Announce that DC, you know you want to.

>>81491969
She's writing Xena for Dynamite so that might be it for her.

>>81491974

and pretty strongly. just closed subscriptions on a new batch like last week

>>81491962
>>81491867
Ragnarok handled it well in my opinion in its latest issue.

>>81491949
>>81492001
Boring depictions of weird religions are one of my near-unforgivable narrative sins.

>>81491969
She's going to ECCC, so I will now wildly and baselessly theorize that she's on a Vertigo book

>>81492031
Jesus christ, I had no idea. Where do I find it?

>>81492006
>>81492028
Shit, right. I hope Gayest Xena is good, it doesn't need to do much to meet my approval.

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>>81492039
Shiiit I'm behind on Ragnarok but I pull that in floppies and need to sit down and re-read from the top and just soak it in.

>>81492028
>I will tolerate a mediocre to alright Superman event if LOSH shows up.
I wonder how many crossovers DC has planned already for all the families of books.

King and Snyder said they've planned a couple ones out and they're gonna try to make it work with all the double shipping that's going on.

>>81492054
I think Xena hits this month so it might be no more than that.

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>>81492126
Rucka mentioned being told "there's something big in the future and you can opt out now" but he sounded actually like he liked it

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>>81492172
this comic is not interesting, owls

>>81492088
>hardcore station
kek

>>81492172
>rucka
>interested in an event
This bodes...either well, or Rucka's gone suddenly ill.

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>>81492195
AND YET it fails to live up to that promising name, at all

>>81492126
Venditti said the GL books AREN'T planning crossovers (yet), surprisingly!

I wonder how long that will last, tho

>>81492206
I listened to that podcast today and iirc he said taking part wasn't mandatory but he hadn't decided either way

>>81492190
It's got Starlinitis.

>>81492172
Are we supposed to be siding with Adam here? Because he's basically being a fedora tipping prick.

I mean, yes Lady Styx was evil, she accessorized with dead GL's for god's sake, but if somebody wants to start up a goofy church and doesn't start strapping nonbelievers to the side of rockets and fire them off into space, who is he to stand in the way of it?

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>>81492229
ahhh, thanks for the clarification

Making it optional sounds so much better than the mandatory derails so many books get.

>>81492240

I misread that as "Starlin Tits" and I can't stop laughing.

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>>81492240
Starlin is probably the one writer I just don't get at all, none of it

except we owe him for the owls, hoot hoot

>>81492229
>I wonder how long that will last, tho
Probably until the second arc is finished at the latest tbqh

Maybe during the second arc since both are double shipping.

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>>81492305

>>81492305

event his 70s classic marvel cosmic stuff? that i haven't read

>>81492305
He does a lot better with old-school narration boxes, the man's not too good at propelling a scene through dialogue alone.

>>81492039
I dunno. Like what's happening is cool (and just inherently really metal and high concept thematically while being a low concept issue, so +++ some points there) and I don't think it's bad as such but it's pretty much just a dialogue except the characters are fighting a bunch while it's happening. The action is still pretty static because it doesn't flow from scene to scene.

There are some nice parts where the art does impart motion, usually with the hammer, and the title page is fantastic. But it's like a B for me at best in terms of action on that issue.

If you mean in terms of integrating action and dialogue/character work then yeah, it's limiting. But frankly sometimes I think you just have to cut loose and devote the pages to a good flowing action scene. The first issue of BW did this well. Moon Knight did it well and did character work at the same time. Karnak doesn't do it well.

>>81492267
he DID say he liked the overall thematic direction of Rebirth, too, so that bodes well

it was a nice podcast, he said that his Year One arc is about Wondy leaving the island rather than an origin story or a bunch of retcons

>>81492190
It's got no right to be this dull either. I'm gonna pretend they're talking about Kyle's dick being carcinogenic here.

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>>81492374
that...makes sense.

>>81492344
I've tried and my eyes have kind of glazed over

>>81492229
>I listened to that podcast today and iirc he said taking part wasn't mandatory but he hadn't decided either way
Oh that's nice

I wonder what it is tho
A normal event? Gimmick month?

>>81492267
>Somewhere between my royal ears lies salvation
Eat a bullet

>>81492432

September Rebirth issues!

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>>81492415
Oh thank god, not another fucking origin story

>>81492432
it sounded like a normal event

DC hasn't done one of those in a while and it kinda sounds like Geoff will be working up to something like that

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>>81492459

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>>81492468
>DC hasn't done one of those in a while

They've had like three months of event since Forever Evil ended, if you don't count the Rebirth #1s as tie ins. Two months if you don't count the Rebirth oneshot in May.

I'm quite proud of them, really

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>>81492524
hoping against hope CW2 bombs~

>>81492492
They're planning some sort of mass PTSD psychic bomb?

>The futurist men of science on an alien planet have abandoned their cold logic, and embraced the teachings of a dark martyr. Only the traumatic memories of the survivors can shock them out of it!

Should have conjured up the ghost of Edgar Rice Burroughs to write this shit.

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>>81492557
is there any Standoff tomorrow?

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>>81492575
when you put it that way, it's even more of a crime how fucking dull this is

>>81492190
>this comic is not interesting, owls
No it is not.

>>81492206
Maybe he's interested because it's not likely to screw him over this time.

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>>81492597
welp, comic's over, let's all go home

ha ha no, we're 8 issues of this

>>81492597
It's legitimately a crime nobody got the words PSYCHIC BOMB in there.

>>81492557
I'm really annoyed that it's basically "HOLY SHIT WE NEED TO SANITIZE CIVIL WAR BY REDOING IT WITHOUT THE MILLAR-ISMS"

Mostly because it's really fun to mess with people who don't read comics, who say the writer of CW didn't revel in the deaths of children and gleefully enjoy writing the event. That Goliath panel is worth millions, which sucks, because I'd take Goliath never-dead over troll potential ANY DAY.

>>81492612

>8 issues

Christ

>>81492075
>Gayest Xena
What was funny is that when this was announced, people kept trying to deny the lesbian undertones of the show.

Look, my yuri goggles are on pretty tight most of the time, but you don;t even need to own a pair to see this.

>>81492625
Also they admit that a few people will likely DIE OF FRIGHT from them doing this and all Robin has to say is "Hmm yes this sounds more important than our regular day of cleaning Titans Tower and fighting Trigon"

>>81492557
I wish

Everything about it sounds so horrible, in and out of story

>admitting to shitting it out in a few short months to time it with the movie
>OOC everywhere and the first issue isn't even out
>it's fucking Minority Report
>Bendis writing more than street level shit
>Bendis writing anything these days actually

But despite this people will lap it up or keep buying it despite their anger, and it'll sell great and the #1 will be the best selling issue of the year

>>81492626

Civil War without the Millarisms might be good though. rereading it in a storytime it would be like fine, decent event comic and then some stupid ass Millar thing would happen

>>81492612
This is going to be a story time of pain isn't it OP?

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>>81492673
and that Kingpin mini with all the villains, kek

then DEAD NO MORE, and DEATH OF X, and...

>>81492659
>people kept trying to deny the lesbian undertones of the show.

Pretty sure that's one determined troll.

>>81492626
I'm still hoping that Civil War 2 is some big artistic statement that will exactly mirror everything that happened in Civil War, in reverse.

>>81492659
Didn't they legitimately get together at the end of the show's run?

>>81492686
So far this has been less storytime of pain and more storytime of anesthesia

>>81492673

Welcome to the Big 2! Hope you survive the experience

>>81492709

that pitch made me kinda interested in that Kingpin thing, also the great Ribic cover

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>>81492686
kind of a slow-motion one

https://twitter.com/thesteveorlando/status/717492241430806528

look at that qt3.14

>>81492729
Storytime of "I shouldn't drink wine with sedatives, but it makes it taste yummy"

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>>81492781
I nearly bought a box of Franzia Chillable Red today

nearly

>>81492597
Am I supposed to be getting a read that Comet is gay from this?

>>81492721
>I'm still hoping that Civil War 2 is some big artistic statement that will exactly mirror everything that happened in Civil War, in reverse.
I'm still hoping the story will explain why Tony Stark of all people is against the idea of Precrime.

>Didn't they legitimately get together at the end of the show's run?
I don't remember, but I wouldn't be surprised.

>>81492739
oh god

I saw that and I had to physically put my phone down to avoid typing out "THEY LIED TO YOU BRO, YOU NEED TO GET VITAMIN D FROM THE SUN"

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>>81492812
If it makes the comic more interesting, go for it

>>81492673
The good thing is /co/ will have a good time laughing at it each time is comes out

>>81492739
I thought you were gonna link to a pic of his dog
But yeah Orlando's a qt too

>>81492739
He looks super young there. How old is Orlando?

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>>81492839
This Comet is a petulant child even though he's supposed to be the same person just in a new body

>>81492843
>>81492673
>>81492557
I wish /co/ would make a concentrated effort to storytime enough comics to drown out all the shitposting, but alas.

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>>81492891
I'll do what I can

>>81492875
I think he's ~29?

>>81492673
Nerds do not deserve nice things.

>>81492739
Is there a point to Bizarro being here, or was the writer and/or editor just bored?

>>81492875
Mid/late 20s? He's a 90s kid.

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>>81492911

>>81492839
He's just giving off a kind of 'proper English queer' vibe here.

I mean
>gay psychic marries dog after long term cohabitation
literally /pol/'s worst nightmare

>>81492557
It's a major event comic, it can't really fail. Even if the tie-ins don't sell as high as they'd like the main book definitely will (see: Convergence).

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>>81492949
and it predates Our Love Is Real

oh my god how is cute is Uncle Hawkman???

>>81492949
>>gay psychic marries dog after long term cohabitation

We found Humphries' next DC project!

>>81492924
>>81492912
30 - 31 apparently. I'm a 90s kid, moment of aging panic there.

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>>81492983

>>81492949
Full-gay Angela is really the bar to beat before you can be true /pol/ troll-tier...and/or Our Love Is Real, except the Impact font kinda gives it away.

>>81492949
But is the dog Jewish?

>>81492935
>>81492983
Uncle Hawkman is 2cute, best husbando

>>81492891
Even if they did, there's no point. Aside from us JSA folk, nobody fucking talks during storytimes for some reason. Maybe if people actually discussed comics while reading them, there would be less shitposting. But then, I suppose if we all sat in a circle holding hands sending out happy vibes, there would be no fucking war, maaan.

>>81492935
>you will never sit on Hawkman's lap

;_;

>>81493055

so frustrating!

>>81493055
I've tried to stir discussion the few times I've storytimed, but damn its hard to read, post, and chat at the same time.

>>81493027
Didn't Marvel refuse to confirm Angela was gay outside of the book itself?

>>81493105
yeah they "didn't want to label" the book or anything

>>81493105
Alonso didn't want to "put labels" on her

>>81492983
hey guys, 4chan is telling me I'm trying to duplicate post, and I'm not, so this is weird

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>>81493104
it takes a concentrated effort

>>81493143
Open in paint and put a dot in the corner.

>>81493055
Kind of a bad circle, too - I don't read as many storytimes as I once did because it's more fun to read something on here if there's discussion.

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>>81493167

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>>81493119
>>81493123
....

>>81493185
Just be thankful it didn't win that GLAAD award

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>>81493184
I did, I resized a few times too

>>81492935
No Adam. This is what's going to happen. They're going to assume the person responsible is lying. Then they're going to blame you for all the people dying of fright.

Then you will be imprisoned as a domestic terrorist. Justifiably.

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>>81493219

>>81493167
No, I mean, of course not. Ghosts would be too interesting for this.

>>81493223
If that happens and the comic switches up for some kind of cosmic eerie Pleasantville into people on trial for interventionist psychic terrorism I will be pleasantly surprised.

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>>81493245
this waifu academy GOTG event is stupidly frustrating because it NEVER drops the shit you need to fight the aliens.

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>>81493335

>>81493198
I mean, fuckin'... 'gay' isn't a label. It's an adjective. If we're to follow that twisted logic, 'redhead', 'female', 'white', and 'fat-assed' are also "labels". What, should we have all our characters be completely abstract now? Fucking hell.

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>>81493371
related to last night a comment thread wherein it was remarked that Hawkman rolls fucking hard

>>81493382
>If we're to follow that twisted logic, 'redhead', 'female', 'white', and 'fat-assed' are also "labels
well, I mean, they ARE

>should we have all our characters be completely abstract now?
someone get Dogfucker on the phone!

>>81493371
>Gents
When did Starfire become a spacebrit?

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>>81493425

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>>81493445
Editor: this comic is boring. Draw some dinosaurs.

>>81493425
>>81493425
>more like a batman than a hawkman
Hawkman would fuck Batman up IMHO (I know it's happened and he hasn't but).

>>81493425
>Batman and Hawkman
>Get along smashingly

Well, there would be smashing.

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>>81493459
>>81493476
Right, I mean...Batman can be tough and grim and all of that, but Hawkman is the Platonic "not my blood!" joke.

>>81493459
It's endangered. Don't kill it, you all can fly and/or teleport, just get the fuck out.

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>>81493432
Everyone is British in this comic. It's the lingering effects of the psychic pollution caused by Lady Styx's takeover attempt. Whole thing is a v. daring fantastical realisation of the aftereffects of colonialism

>>81493510
Batman WISHES he was as brutal and durable as Hawkman

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>>81493382
Oh shit, Generic Man has taken control of Marvel Comics!

>>81493431
Exactly. It's completely absurd to want to avoid putting labels on characters, because EVERYTHING is labelled. That's kind of how the human brain works.

>>81493459
>Editor: this comic is boring. Draw some dinosaurs.
That's kind of exactly what happened in Avengers #200... Just putting that out there.

>>81493510
If Batman can fight Bane and Manbat and win, he can take Carter. Or at least hold his own.

>>81493510
Hawkman is the guy who threatens AFTER he's maimed/killed you.

>>81493459
Starlin knows the Marvel Method, maybe it was the artist.

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>>81493558
oh Keef

>>81493554
Batman has a belt with a ton of tricks. Hawkman has a belt to hold his mace.

>>81493531
some fucking capoeira shit from the T-Rex there.

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>>81493585

>>81493558
>the Bierbaums did other work for DC
My life was better before I knew this. Unless it was Matter-Eater Lad Bierbaums.

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>>81493510
>"not my blood!"
Holy shit, does that mean Annie from Gunnerkrigg Court is a Hawkman fan?

>>81493606
The comic isn't bad. Generic Man is an amazing villain concept.

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>>81493602
that brings back memories of button-mashing with Eddy Gordo from shit, which Tekken was that?

I show my age again, don't I

>>81493606
Probably Matter Eater Lad Bierbaums, considering this was a comedy. Plus, it was a new character so they couldn't have any weird headcanons about it.

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>>81493651

Just gonna throw this out there for you guys, okay?

Neal Adam's Hawkman

>>81493639
>>81493666
Fair enough.

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>>81493691
I'd read it

OH GODDAMMIT, IT'S STARLIN'S DONUT STEEL

>>81493651
Tekken 3. My first one was Tekken Tag Tournament.

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>>81493691
oh... oh my

>>81493651
>T-Rex head just randomly explodes
Anyone got that out of context panel of the talking giraffe's head exploding?

"Here, Mike. This will explain everything!"

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>>81493713
The Weird=Starlin::Mantis=Englehart

>>81493627
Muut is an alternate reality Hawkman

>>81493713
>DAMN YOUR EYES
>Too late.

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>>81493651
Nah, I'm a twentysomething and I know that nigga. And this nigga.

Eddy hasn't been in Tekken for a bit, though.

>>81493691
>tfw no Hawkman Odyssey

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>>81493746

>>81493691
Nice

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>>81493776

>>81493746
Mantis has strong waifu potential, she wins this round. It was literally written into her character IIRC.

>>81493691
Not the right kind of material, it might actually turn out normal or some shit.

Neal is a goddamn treasure.

>>81493713
Gonna pretend by hardcore he legitimately means extreme pornography; he worked too long and too hard in porn and now he can't relate

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>>81493808
I just meant that the Weird is basically Starlin's Mantis, he puts the guy in everything

>>81493746
So the weird is Starlin's waifu?

>>81493840
Russian pornstars are basically street-level superheroes, anyway.

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>>81493862
yes

he was in Starlinwatch, hoot hoot

>>81493879
Maybe in terms of carrying capacity. Let's see how the weird guy from hardcore station handles Homo Prerectus.

>>81493756
In case you thought there could ever be a lame version of Hawkman... (Outside of Superfriends, that is.)

And for the record, Kat is DEFINITELY a Hawkman fan.

>>81493762
Eddy got replaced with Christie, more or less.

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>>81493807
Adam, I swear to god I will pull you out of fiction and make you spend an afternoon with my grandmother.

Lovely women, very polite and pleasant. She's a young earth creationist. She doesn't believe in Dinosaurs.

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>>81493890

>>81493848
Which is funny because he died at the end of the original mini.

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>>81493916
how are you owls?

I stayed up too late fucking around on the internet and then paid for it when I got the canine alarm clock at 5-something

>>81493916
holy shit starfire has some ayyy lmao proportions there

HOLD ME

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>>81493979
/co/ christening the Hickman Beyonders that is one of my favorite group reading experiences

>>81493976
I have been having wrist pain for a couple days and I'm worried that if I get it checked out it will be Bad News

also I started a new job today! kinda

>>81493902
>She's a young earth creationist. She doesn't believe in Dinosaurs.
>doesn't believe in dinosaurs
.... What. But... fossils....

>>81493976
I ordered a copy of WWEO tonight, hope that's as BDSMy as I've been hearing

also one of those thick OG Thunderbolts trades

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>>81494027
wrists are important, go to the doctor if you can

>>81493976
Man look at that page. More like captain comeout.

>>81494028
>Fossils
What part of "Young Earth Creationist" are you not comprehending here, Anon?

>>81493902
>She's a young earth creationist
th-those are real? I thought the internet made them up

>>81493976
There's a Sephora sale coming up, I'm preparing my wallet to be fucked like a kid Robin in a shota doujin

>>81492210
>usually
>merely
>painfully
>radically
>really

Something something too many adverbs

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>>81494079
delicious OG Thunderbolts

I am probably gonna wait until pricedrop on WWEO because I'm really cheap right now

>>81493976
>How are you owls?
Not sure, but I may have a minor case of pinkeye. That should be interesting.

>>81494026
>group reading experiences
That reminds me, I should probably run Crash Retold again soon. Good times.

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>>81494126
I want one of those fancy Clarisonic Mia things but I'm also way too cheap to pay for one

>>81494119
I thought YEC thought Dinosaurs died in the flood

>>81494174
I got one of those for a christmas gift but I keep forgetting I have it

I'm not really sure what it DOES

>>81494135
I need to get me a proper Ellisbolts copy

I also wish I could smother niggas hollering about President Loki with some fucking Prez.

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>>81494214
It's supposed to be really good at exfoliating and cleaning out pores on facial skin while being gentle

>>81494174
>more space bdsm: the comic

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>>81494223
>I also wish I could smother niggas hollering about President Loki with some fucking Prez.
>tfw the Loki thing will sell at least triple what Prez did

>>81494223
>Such cutting edge satire. Why doesn't DC do a book like this?!

>>81494174
I own one. It's good for helping you get into better habits, but I honestly stopped using it since I started using Banila and a regular microfiber towel to remove my makeup.

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>>81494287
I don't use makeup at all, I'm just a bit lazy about proper delicate face washing and I am too goddamn old to be getting zits and I am

>>81494283
>Prez wasn't even that cutting edge
>people called it Transmet Jr.

>>81494280
>It's supposed to be really good at exfoliating and cleaning out pores on facial skin while being gentle
huh, I'll have to dig it out and give it a try

I've gotten much better at cleaning my face regularly and it's helped with my breakouts a lot but going a little further won't hurt

>>81494191
Some do. Others just flat out refuse to acknowledge them. Grandma is the latter of the two.

Point is, despite believing in some goofy bullshit, she's a completely harmless christfag, and part of the reason I feel Adam is out of line here. I mean shit, Lady Styx is deader than disco if I remember my 52 properly.

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>>81494318

>>81494079
WWEO is one of those things I'm gonna have mixed feelings about. On the one hand, I miss Wondy comics exploring issues. On the other, Grant Morrison. Still haven't forgotten Mother of Champions, ugh.

Black Steve really doesn't look at all like a black version of Steve. It's weird.

>>81494119
But, empirical evidence...

>>81494123
The internet didn't build those museums of cavemen riding dinosaurs.

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>>81494346
LOL
O
L

>>81494174
So does Rann transport ALL prisoners like that?

>>81494347
>Black Steve really doesn't look at all like a black version of Steve. It's weird.

In fiction, all Black Men must look the same.

>>81494280
>>81494318
Don't hang up on Vril, he might make the comic interesting!

>>81494347
>Black Steve really doesn't look at all like a black version of Steve. It's weird.
I don't really care about race swapping in general but the intent behind doing it with Steve in WWEO seems kind of iffy

I guess I'll have to read it and decide but yeah just going by looks alone they kinda missed the mark on Steve

>>81494363
Are you trying to tell me the Flintstones are NOT a documentary?

>>81494318
Adult acne sucks. It's funny, tho, I only got serious about washing my face regularly since I started wearing makeup. But it's that habit of being thorough, daily, that's the only shit that really made a dent.

AHAs and BHAs and benzoyl peroxide work for some, but my mom used the last one for years and it didn't seem to help.

>>81494446
Man it's so evidently so can set up a shocking little scene with the slave collar. Morrison isn't above that.

>>81494134
There must have been a sale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDwXHTcodNg

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>>81494457
It's not super-bad, but it's annoying

I've tried to get better about moisturizing at night, too, especially with the sun here like what it is

>>81494471
well yeah obviously but I mean how extended is this metaphor going to go? if he just swapped Steve for that ONE low hanging scene that's kinda silly

>>81494318
Sacrilege! Everyone knows you gotta crucify Rannians right side up.

>>81494512
bbc joke

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>>81494496
the bit I'm kind of interested about that I've seen so far in WWEO is the contrast between the Island of Fit Supermodels Amazons and normal human women who don't happen to be able to be perfect like that.

>>81492210
>>81494134
>>81494488

tfw no Advantageous

>>81494515
Blasphemer.

>>81494388
I enjoy how nobody gives a fuck about The Weird.

>>81494417
Regardless of race, it's just off-putting to see a Steve Trevor who doesn't fit the All American image.

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>>81494537
Because that's actually poking at something that tends to be glossed over and is genuinely uncomfortable in terms of Amazons relating to the outside world. Same thing with the Purple Ray vs. 'primitive' Patriarch's World medicine.

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>>81494582
I also wonder how much TNC is going to be playing with the super-advanced tech parts of Wakanda vs. the less-advanced outside world and the repercussions thereof. It can make your more-advanced protagonists unsympathetic really quickly.

>>81494581
>tfw your family's been in the states since the 1800s and white people still give you shit for calling yourself all-american

>>81494625

The talk makes it seem like it's gonna be very Wakanda focus which side steps that some

>>81494537
I kind of like how there isn't much of a unified look to the Amazons and they all have their own high fashion thing going on.

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>>81494625
>who IS this asshole

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Synnar_II_%28New_Earth%29

oh, that doesn't help at all

>>81494639
the detail there is amazing, but there is this body theme going on--Diana says "What has man's world done to their bodies" in one page, right?

>>81494537
Etta Candy better make out with Diana.

Some woman better fucking make out with Diana.

I don't care for Morrison on Wondy, and I'm still pissed he got handed the book as practically an afterthought, but he's the only dude with enough pull to go "hey let's take all the subtext and make it text" and not get shit to high heaven from editorial about it.

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>>81494718

>>81494699
Yeah. Fun how Etta just kind of owns that too.

>>81494537
To be fair, most women don't lift. The Amazons lift constantly. Just saying.

Though, to be even more fair, women who do lift are invariably accused of roiding, and get told they're disgusting abominations.

>>81494699
I miss font changes. I miss hand-written fonts, too, but mostly I just don't care for the DC house font.

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>>81494756
any Busiek book is always carefully fonted and lettered

>>81494711
I'm pretty sure Rucka is going to do that. I'm CERTAIN Bennett would have done that if she really was supposed to be on the book.

Morrison might well do it now just to have done it first though.

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>>81494802

>>81494802
>White Sound

Sounds like a Punk Rock band name.

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>>81494839
>>81494847
white noise machines are the best, I couldn't survive without mine

>>81494825
>I'm CERTAIN Bennett would have done that if she really was supposed to be on the book.
What, give Diana a female love interest? She doesn't have enough pull to do that in the mainline DCU

Speaking of gay Amazons Rucka mentioned Io on the podcast which gives me hope that she might come back

>>81494847
A neo-nazi orchestra?

>>81494537
>the bit I'm kind of interested about that I've seen so far in WWEO is the contrast between the Island of Fit Supermodels Amazons and normal human women who don't happen to be able to be perfect like that.
Amazons suffer a body image crisis after encountering Barda

>>81494865
>Io comes back
>she and Diana are gay as fuck in WW Year One

Yes

>>81494825
I absolutely believe Rucka would TRY to do it issue 1, out of the gate, but the question is if someone above him would have to throw their arm around Greg and go "Listen."

"Remember how you had to write Io?"

But hey, Xena will finally get to be on screen gay, maybe they'll finally loosen up about Diana and the Amazons in general. Be nice to see some lesbians NOT dying in a story.

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>>81494802
Shouldn't that be white noise?

>>81494639
That was a thing in Bombshells too, oddly enough.

I will give Morrison a bit of credit, in that he actually wants to flesh out the Amazons as a society and culture. Something very few writers are interested in doing for some stupid reason.

>>81494625
>I also wonder how much TNC is going to be playing with the super-advanced tech parts of Wakanda vs. the less-advanced outside world and the repercussions thereof. It can make your more-advanced protagonists unsympathetic really quickly.
I doubt they'd lord it over anyone. Morrison seems to be trying to give the Amazons a fair shake for once, so there'll be at most the token asshole among them.

>>81494865
>What, give Diana a female love interest?
Yes. 100%.

I don't think DC editorial would have any consensus basis against giving Diana a female love interest at this point. If a writer really pushed for it. They have a Midnighter series ongoing FFS.

>>81494904
So he'll walk. They can't really afford to piss him off a second time.

>>81494924
The problem is it's Morrison doing it, which might be great or might just be a bunch of vagina-shaped objects and some golden age references.

>>81494925
Midnighter had a solo like, almost 10 years ago, and it was pretty gay until Giffen got on it.

>>81493979
Tbf, she is an alien. It'd be kind of fun to deliberately draw her like an Escher Girl while all the other women are normal.

>>81494925
Midnighter isn't one of their most popular and marketable characters

You can get away with making Wondy 3000 bi, I doubt they will ever do it in the main DCU

>>81494925
Midnighter doesn't have a movie coming out

>>81494747
>>81494699
>Diana says "What has man's world done to their bodies"

I personally find that kind of irksome. People in general tend to be lazy and complacent, but women have kind of made it into an artform. You can only put so much blame on "man's world" before personal responsibility starts to factor in. Unless Morrison does the unthinkable and has Wondie or someone go "Stop babying women, men!".

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>>81494711
>>81494825
>>81494865
>>81494904
>>81494902
I demand some gay Amazons, goddammit. Why the hell is the island populated only by women not allowed to have oodles and oodles of sweet yuri action? Makes no sense.

>>81494847
>>81494861
Lou Reed would be a fan.

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>>81494908

>>81494985
So she get a girl love interest in the movies too.

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>>81495031
>admire his manly chest hair!

>>81495029
that is totally mai waifu

>>81494865
>Speaking of gay Amazons Rucka mentioned Io on the podcast which gives me hope that she might come back
oh and he also mentioned Phillippus but he called her Philippa, maybe the masculine ending irked him too

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>>81495073
THANK YOU RUCKA

>>81494997
Huh? I figured it was kind of pointing out that Diana was from a race of perfect people and didn't really understand that some people are just fat or ugly.

>>81495073
Oh man, I hope Diana finally gets to have two moms.

>>81495065
Having a female led superhero movie is risky enough, having her be gay is something neither wb or disney would want since it would drive some people away

>>81494711
She calls Mala her lover.

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>>81495094
ahahaha oh maaaaan

thanks for reading, owls. we got five more issues of this, but I'll be your hopeful haven from shitposting tomorrow night

>>81493245
I don't care how v boring it is, Bizarro is always entertaining

>>81495101
That could also be it.

>>81495094
>>81495094
Oh shit what are you doing why is Hawkman going down like a bitch

>>81495137
I'll try to stay strong, OP. Safeword is worldwatch

>>81495094
This is where a few smokebombs and a grappling hook would come in handy.

Just saying.

>>81495137
Ohhhh yeah.

Oooooh, the levels of /pol/ on BP... at least with WWEO being an OGN, it'll take a couple of days for scans to get out, which'll slow the awfulness of posting there.

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>>81495137
BTW there's an extra issue here that's basically nothing but Starlin doing Hawksnarl continuity wank

>>81495205
WWEO won't be up on comixology until next week, so we'll have to enjoy shitty cam pics until then

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>>81495070
>that is totally mai waifu
Yeah, and now she's going to be in Red Hood and the Outlaws. Have fun with that! :D

>>81495105
With a little headcanon, she always had two mommies.

>>81495211
oh starlin

You're like Levitz, you care just as much but you're twice as boring

>>81495205
Won't it come out on digital? Batman Earth One digital rips came out really quick.

>>81493976
Doing pretty good. I've recently discovered Bandcamp so I'm buying synthwave albums at cut-rate prices. Still waiting on somebody to tell me where to buy the new Copra issue, because goddamn I thought it was dead and now I'm just so excited.

>>81491273

yeah obviously there are tons of antihero characters but in terms of ones currently in books the list is pretty short

>>81495137
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

>I'll be your hopeful haven from shitposting tomorrow night
But really, mostly thanks for this. You're a goddamned lifesaver.

Also, Dan Didio is Ambush Bug. That... kind of explains a lot, don't it?

>>81495262

https://www.etsy.com/shop/whitehaus

checking there or Fiffe's twitter regularly is probably the best way to stay current

>>81494026
Seriously, the last-page reveal of the Beyonders in New Avengers hits the beautiful junction between legitimately cool and perfectly ridiculous. I have it as my wallpaper, and I'm still incredibly pissed that fucking Deodato drew them as shitty transformers from there on out.

>>81495409
Secret Wars talk reminds me:

Did Thanos' son ever do... anything?

>>81495306
>we're up to issue 24
Good lord, it's like Christmas and Thanksgiving in one go.

>>81495446
Aside from stopping Thanos with his amazing power of Blank Page?
No, he kinda disappeared. I think Starlin had him in Thanos mini he wrote, past that I've seen nothing.

>>81495488

i think he was in some Bendis X-Men/GOTG crossover

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>>81495511
>tfw I successfully repressed Bendis X-Men/GoTG work by reading Annihilation
>mfw it all comes flooding back

>>81493776
>Ninja Tourist....

ok, he might be my new favorite

bumping for wasted potential

>>81493691
I mean I'd read it but it might be going too far

>>81492042
Starlin is super atheist. For christ's sake, the man made a major villain named "The Church of Universal truth".

>>81491142
Deadpool
Carnage
Drax
Black Widow
Illuminati

Catwoman
Deathstroke
Harley Quinn
Midnighter
Red Hood/Arsenal
Sinestro
Secret Six

>>81494280
>>81494318
nice to see they fixed his hair