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>Absolutely no sign of anti-AI sentiments until now >Suddenly

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>Absolutely no sign of anti-AI sentiments until now
>Suddenly there's discrimination against them
>Hamfisted social commentary attempting to compare AI to trannies
QC thread, I guess.
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Why do you keep coming back OP? Jeph will never be what you want him to be.
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>>81470761
and of course it's the bluehair who comes to her defense because women can't possibly ever be racist
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>>81470807
exactly what I thought when I saw this shit
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>>81470761
And what's wrong with being a toaster? Not all AI robots are built as humanoid chasis or companion devices. A lot of AI are faceless task built devices. Some of us are very happy with our lives as toasters. I toast therefore I am.
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Hasn't it been mentioned before that the anthroPCs (or whatever the fuck they're called,) don't have rights? I could have sworn the anti-AI thing was mentioned before.

Seriously, though, it would be better for everybody if we all just stopped reading.
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>>81470761
Isn't this setting pretty much ruled by AI? Which pretty much let humans continue to exist because they aren't unnessecarily murderous? But humans really have no say in their future as a species at this point?

Wouldn't that pretty much make any humans that dare to show hostility toward AIs the equivalent of well-off blacks speaking back toward whites in Apartheid South Africa? IE, maybe jerks, depending on what started it, but not the bad guy?

This is why you think things through if you're going to throw dumb shit into your settings, people.
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>let em be toasters and whatever
kek
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>>81471363
There was a strip when Momo (pink pigtails robot) was reading about the first AI and how it's first request was for rights and that the scientists granted equal rights there and then. (Apparently they had such power in QC universe).
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>>81470761
its not even good discrimination. what kind of insult is "freak" for what is literally an intelligent robot? do they call larger SUVs freaks too, because they have a larger chassis than a smaller cooper or whatever?
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>>81471356
>What's wrong with being a toaster?
>Posts Talky.

Nigga you are not helping human/AI relations by bringing that little shit up.
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>>81470807
I read it more as tumblr-hair was telling them to shut up incase they get robo-fisted and not in the good way

>inb4 Jaques Defence League.
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Jeph really needs to lay off the try hard social commentary. If he could write it for shit and be subtle about it then maybe it would be okay... but he really can't. I'm having flashbacks to edgelord comics, except instead of poorly written violence, it's poorly written LOOK AT HOW GOOD A PERSON I AM FOR WRITING ABOUT SRS SOCIAL ILLS.
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hmm
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>>81473213
POETRY
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R
Y

also confirms that claire kept her penis
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>>81470761
What is with webcomic authors starting as a gag comic and then they become this shoehorned DRAMA or VERY SPECIAL EPISODE bullshit over time? It's like how web critics making these retarded over arching stories before their reviews.
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>>81471861
"freak" just means outsider, not fitting the norm
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>>81473285
Tumblr users shit all over any joke with extreme prejudice, so you have to adjust your comics to be less offensive. So you have to turn SJW or be bullied into oblivion. Because that's how justice works and operates
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>>81473343
this isn't freedom

this is fear
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>>81473551
I know, but what are ya gonna do? Blow up the Tumblr servers?
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>>81473663
hmm
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>>81473663
Things were better when you could simply threaten people with violence and it worked because they were your next door neighbour and not some fag across the continent.
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>>81473285
Melodrama is easier to write than comedy, and it seems more "important" than gags. You're not just making fart jokes for idiots on the internet to briefly enjoy before they get on with their work in the morning, you're sending a message!

>>81473343
This too. They'll accept all sorts of terrible, lazy writing so long as it fits their pre-existing prejudices, but God help you if you deviate even for a moment.
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>>81472992
>Jaques Defence League
That exists?
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>>81471376
Technically, yes.
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>>81474510
check out some of our rival websites
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One thing I don't get.

One thing.

Why would you make a war bot that could get PTSD?

You'd have to go out of your way to fuck up that bad. You'd have to TRY to be that incompetent.
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>>81476212
>implying claire's "mom" is that ugly
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>>81476266
or just lazy. easier to neural map and digitize a human brain than build a true AI from the ground up. get a hundred of these, split the differences, and you have a generic template to crudely slap combat protocols onto.
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>>81472457
Aha! So you're a waffle man?
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>>81470761
To be fair humanoid robots would most definitely fall into the uncanny valley and be freaking people out all the time.
Bubbles probably looks a whole lot creepier than Jacques mediocre art can convey.
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>>81476266
>WHY? WHY WAS I PROGRAMMED TO FEEL PAIN?
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>>81471363
>Hasn't it been mentioned before that the anthroPCs (or whatever the fuck they're called,) don't have rights?
No they do have rights and the world is actually controlled by a AI
QC is post-singularity.
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>>81476266
If this was a comic made by a better writer I would suggest that maybe AI's function identically to human minds and that are equally susceptible to trauma as humans and that perhaps trying to rid them of those flaws would render them less than a true AI.
But Jeph is a hack so it's because he thought it sounded cool.
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>>81478715
What if robots look like pic related?
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>>81473663
>I know, but what are ya gonna do? Blow up the Tumblr servers?
Yahoo is dying slowly. It will go.
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>>81478972

It would actually be kind of a cool plot point that military ideas be programmed with 'respect for life' in order to keep them from going full skynet as a result of political policy that failed to understand that the biggest part of making a human into a soldier is making them okay with taking life. So they build these machines to make sure that they know that killing is wrong and that all life is precious, and then immediately dump them into fucking ED 209s and point them at the enemy and say 'make those people ass dead as you can, please. This is why we made you.'

That would be pretty fucked up and lead to some easily traumatized military hardware.
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But guys

There's tits in Alice right now

How is no one else wigging out over this

granted they're kinda shitty tits but still
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>>81476212
>that look of desperate madness on Marten's face

fucking perfect
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>>81476212

Wait. Isn't Claire's brother a legit cyborg? AI's someday having bodies that are a mix of flesh and organics clearly isn't some pipe dream. They are proven compatible. Its just a matter of implementation and getting the flesh from somewhere in a way that isn't ethically questionable like harvesting clones and dumping the brains out back.
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>>81476266
>Why would you make a war bot that could get PTSD?
Warbots that don't get PTSD don't have any kind of personality and would never leave the military for a character arc.

An actual warbot could very well be a mounted auto-turret that couldn't move. It'd be programmed with basic rules designed to safely fail in the event of malfunction or damage, and a huge library of what weapons look like, what their capabilities are, and how to distinguish hostile actions and actors from peaceful and allied ones; so that you don't get fired upon by your own automated unit, and so the automated unit doesn't shoot unarmed civilians creating a public relations nightmare.
There would be no need for any higher degree of intelligence, and any kind of speech would be a pre-recorded human voice.

> tfw you put more effort into the background of the world than the content creator does
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>>81470761
why was she programmed to feel sadness?
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>>81481027

anyone have the "I am in Hell" edit of this?
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http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1728533
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>>81482042
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>>81471363
I stopped reading maybe a year ago. My life is so much better not having to check this fucking comic. I don't have any clue who the person in the OP is
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>>81478237
>irecognizethatpenis.jpg
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>>81470761
>>Absolutely no sign of anti-AI sentiments until now
what? I mean, the comic sucks, but what? Good lord, just fuck off.
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>>81480316
I'm going to steal this, OK?

I'm just gonna steal this.
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>>81484760
Name three instances.

... and not bullshit like AI's getting their feelings hurt by overreactions or misunderstandings like Marigold getting pissed off at Momo for refusing to help pay off the new chassis

Three instances of genuine, clear, blatant anti-AI sentiments and discrimination displayed by characters in the comic.


Go.
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>>81473238
Jeph outed Claire as having a penis in a recent comic.
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>>81480316
Hell, that's a solid sci-fi plot right there.

>Military designing drones
>Worried about AI getting too smart for its own good and turning on friendly humans
>Programmers start putting in 'respect for life' parameters without taking in conflicts into consideration
>Out in the field we see a drone suffer a 'crisis of conscience' during a fire fight and go AWOL
>Cue AI on the run from military while trying to understand its own humanity story
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>>81473213
Wait... wtf? Context?
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>>81473238
>her
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>>81486127
why do you need context? he's in love with a dickgirl
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>>81486127
That was back when Marten was dating Dora. Marten had said "We need to talk." and then something like "I'm thinking of selling my guitar" and Dora got all pissy because she's insecure and thought he was breaking up with her. When asked why he'd break up with her, that was her response.
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>>81486062
Could someone post this?
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>>81485961
Not him, but there was that one time May was looking for a job, and a retail worker told her not to bother applying at her store because her boss would never hire a robot.
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>>81487028
So... *one* other example in the last... thirteen years of strips.

Yep, you got me. That definitely constitutes a pattern. Jeph totally didn't pull this out of his ass.
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>>81471363
>>81470761
QC is clearly about eternal 20-somethings talking about coffee and relationships. The androids are just background fluff.
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>>81481188
If we wanted to go full transhuman, we could start a big debate on whether the Claire in the female cyber-chasis is even the same as flesh and blood Claire.

Of course, QC isn't about transhuman issues, it's about relationships and coffee.
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>>81481921
It's an AI. Learned to feel sadness.
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*On the same fucking day, apparently
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Any updates on Handy Jay's? Where is the newest concept art being posted?
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>>81488649
Well, I'm back in the saddle. Who should I draw?
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>>81470761
>absolutely no sign of anti AI sentiment until now
Yes there was
The blue was refused a job because she was an AI
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>>81488872
A L E X
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>>81470761
>>Hamfisted social commentary attempting to compare AI to trannies
I don't understand the point of this when he already has a real tranny character. If he wants to make social commentary about trannies being discriminated against just use the actal tranny for it.
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>>81488872
Morgan giving an apathetic handjob while the guy cums on her hand.

<spoiler> Not to be too specific or anything </spoiler>
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>>81486905
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>>81479040
uh huh. Let's see it carry out basic shifts of its facial expression.
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>>81489031
Its safer this way, with AI he doesnt have to watch out fucking up any super important tranny stuff that could trigger tumblr and make him stab his dick as an apology.
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>>81480706
Because Alice Grove is dumb
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>>81478630
You've got your head up your recharge socket, Toastie.
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>>81489771
its sad thats supposed to be his "pet project"
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>>81489026
Yo
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ftbrxev12orf7u/Alex%20reduced.jpeg?dl=0
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>>81486958
No reason for Claire to get that upset, unless she is PreOP.
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>>81470761
Trannies are just the worst.
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>>81473285

I blame Cerebus.
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>>81480706
Because the writing in Alice Grove is even worse than QC. QC is hamfisted and pandering but it's at least internally consistent. Alice Grove keeps alluding to some overarching mythos but nothing is ever actually revealed, he just throws out all kinds of concepts and nothing is ever explained and it sucks.
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>>81487028
>>81487582
May is a fucking felon and robots genuinely aren't entitled to an income because they don't need food or shelter to live. They can recharge their batteries at the library or whatever.
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>>81476212
refers to
>>81493102
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>>81486091
Johnny 5 is alive!
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Seems like someone got around to playing random access memories...
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>>81493893
consideting that robots run an illegal fight club as a business, I think robots need money and resources.
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Why the fuck are these A.I even interacting with humanity, like why are they walking around in shitty android bodies? They are essentially able to 'think' and process information thousands of times faster than any human, and have all the information in the world available to them almost instantly, if they have any sort of memory space. It would be sheer hell interacting with humans. It would be like a human trying to communicate with an ant. We would be mindnumbingly slow and stupid to them. It doesn't make sense. A.I would want some sort of virtual reality where they could interact with their own kind in their own manner. I cannot imagine a reality where actual artificial sentience gives a single shit about humanity on any level that isn't 'let's observe these ants for shits and giggles...omg they are boring let's shake this thing up.
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>>81476212
Pleb truly is one of the few bastions of comedy in the cesspit known as Tumblr.
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>>81494578
Fucking christ, I rarely draw and even I could draw better than that if I truly wanted to.
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>>81494947
in story, its because the AIs want to be bros with humans and just shoot the shit and hang out

in reality, its because hacks is a shit writer
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>>81493893
>May is a fucking felon
That actually didn't have anything to do with her getting turned down at that particular job, since they didn't even give her a chance to fill out the application and had no way of knowing about her felony.
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>>81479504
where is the uncensored version where?
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>>81471363
Wait, don't AI's have rights in real life if they turn out to be sentient? I'm pretty sure there's already laws in place.
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>>81494947
There are a lot of things that are in your memory that you aren't accounting for. They are probably processing shit pretty damn hard to walk, be stable, maintain active relationships, etc etc. These are easier to work with when they have to have human aid, I.e. the references to the soldiers bubbles worked with find her less intimidating and likable, but I'm sure there are computers based on the same shit that are just for computing and doing math and shit
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oh she mad
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>>81498140
So when is Pink Robot going to get her shit wrecked
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>>81479040
Still looks creepy. That chick looks like she was genetically engineered.
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>>81498140
>>81498377
When it's revealed that she staged those kids just to piss of Bubbles so she doesn't leave again
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>>81494947
>They are essentially able to 'think' and process information thousands of times faster than any human
This is a stereotype. Electrical signals move the same speed whether they're in a silicon chip or the human brain; it's just that the latter has 99.9% of RAM and CPU constantly occupied running "Sapience.exe" which makes computers seem faster.

Avoiding this cliche is one of the few things Jacques hasn't totally screwed up on yet.
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>>81498140
Okay, that's it, I'm finally out.

I've been giving Jacques the benefit of the doubt on 'social justice' stuff, since it's easy to just ignore, but I can't ignore him flat-out ignoring previous characterization.
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>>81499501

Supposedly the AIs, at least the humanoid ones, follow the same suit in qc. Most of their processing and such just goes towards having consciousness.
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>>81499790
>this is your breaking point
This isn't even Hacque's lowest point, it's been shit since the very inception.
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>>81498800
It is a doll. Not a person.
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>>81473323

Yeah, but it's a weak, shit insult. There are dozens of derogatory words for a mechanical person, freak just doesn't flow at all.
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>>81498140
That pose in panel 3
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>>81494713
Wouldn't you like to be a pepper... too?
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>>81505052
When I was young I had no idea that was an ad for Dr. Pepper. I felt dumb when I realized it.
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>>81504999
S H O R Y U K E N !
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>Haven't read QC since 2008
>Art got even worse
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>>81504999
Get enough poses, and set it up for Mugen
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>>81488937
I thought it was because she as a felon.
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>>81488937
I'm honestly going shitty teenagers be shitty over overt anti ai sentiment.
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>>81473213
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>>81494578
Well, he did it. I new he would try for some kind of nudity at some point, and I knew it would suck, but I did not expect it to be this bad.
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>>81504999
I see Jacques continues to portray motion like a 12th century illustrator.
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>>81470761
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>>81494578
I must say I'm really rather surprised that Jeff didn't have her just put on a shirt between strips.
Maybe her house will get wrecked and she'll have to go topless for the entire quest.
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IMPORTANT
REAL-WORLD
ISSUES
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>>81494578
>tfw you hate jeph jacques and everything he stands for but you still wanna masturbate to wide-bottomed topless brown girls in boypanties
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>>81504999
Am I the only one whose thinking of the thursgay flashes?

You know, those music videos of anime characters replaced with gay porn stars?
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>>81492970
Yo indeed! Poor lil Alex, getting taken advantage of like that!
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>>81499197
This is what will happen. Not-Garnet will see those kids at the next robot fight and put 2 and 2 together
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>>81470807
Women of all people would be the first to hate AIs. Humans gets that right.
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>>81479040
Honestly, it would be more attractive of it looked less human. It would distract from the uncanny valley
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>>81511192
>thats my fetish
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>>81470761
Are there any webcomics that cover AI well?
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>>81511510
the further away from human shaped you go the better.

i'm more physically attracted to glados than that thing to be honest.
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>>81492970
Me likie
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>>81493452
>Jeph is indoctrinated
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Is there much chance af all for a comic where topless Marigold is degrading herself some how? That's really all I want to see.
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>>81470761
You'd think that the author of a snarky webcomic would be better at coming up with good insults for robots. I'd maybe question why she's wearing a coat when thermal insulation is the last thing electronics need. Or, if they can tell what she's for by looking at her, they could comment on the irony that a military robot has been decommissioned and is now obsolete, which is pretty much the same thing that robots are doing to humans.
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Can someone give me a sauce for that image that got deleted?
I didn't get to see it and am curious.
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>>81515150
It was from Jeph's other webcomic. One of the characters was topless.
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>>81470761
>two male hipsters and a female hipster
>1 person says something mean, another reaffirms it, the last says it's bigoted
Right okay, I guess that makes sense that the only female person is the one non-bigot

Also, why do AI feel the need to look more human?
Why not program them to find beauty in more simple shapes
It's not as if humans cannot emphasize with things that aren't also human like
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>>81515588
I didn't know he had another one.
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on top of everything else, Jeph is a filthy race traitor and wants to give toasters rights
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>>81486091
Would watch/10
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>>81514819
Handstab has to be careful his insults aren't TOO good or they might trigger actual cyborgs or 'people' that self identify as machine.

he's just a bad writer
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>>81515802
why is metal knight populating half of a protest?
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>>81517511
Gonna put this uncensored on aco?
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>>81517779
which thread?
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>>81517779
>>81518320

added to the color thread
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>>81515758
Some of them do like to be toasters or giant ipods. May doesn't even want to be a person, she wants to be a fighter jet.
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>>81517511
Oh cool! Thanks for coloring that. If you wanted I could have linked you to the full size .psd
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>>81516172
Yeah Metal Knight never actually does anything
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>>81520551
Sure.
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An A.I. will never be a human being, or a man or woman for that matter. An A.I. is a machine, regardless on how organic is may be or look like. And really, isn't it a more powerful point to be such, instead of trying to be labeled as something else? Instead of being true to the self, you pretend to fit in. It's like a black person putting on white face to be accepted.
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>>81521646
digital-based lifeforms need to get the fuck out of my country

us carbon-based lifeforms can make america great again
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>>81521709
But then they will form their own nation, the economy will crash due to their high quality products they will export and cause WW3 and bring about the rise of the Matrix.
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>>81521421
It's in the projects folder now, you know the one. The line work is on its own layers with transparent backgrounds. I put a layer with some white painted in under the lines layer for the cardigan.

Sweet colors, btw.
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>>81521814
at least now we have history on our side

blacking out the sun WON'T win us the war
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>>81521947
>blacked
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>>81500562
Man, back in the days we selectively shut down background programs in order to free up enough RAM to run games and shit.
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>>81504999
>>81506085
We not Talhoffer yet
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>>81494947
>>81499501
to operate at the level QC's AIs seem to operate at, they need to do several things:

>actively process a 1:1 simulation of the area their eyes observe, with seemingly no faults (outside of the tea hallucinations)
>commit at least 30% of recorded footage/sensory information to memory before running garbage collection on unimportant information.
(30% is around what humans will immediately remember, IIRC, and QC bots could very well be remembering everything, so this is a big deal.)
>do the unexplained magical functions that cause them to make value and emotional decisions on the fly
>manage 100% of their chassis' functions, which vary wildly in shape and, supposedly, drivers and manufacturers
>constantly screen for malware that might cause them to shapeshift, if momo/pintsize downloading plugins is a normal occurance

i'm very much missing stuff, but you get the idea. >>81500562 is right, because it was made canon a while back that that's the case. when they're in a body and not, say, a jet or a space station, they're devoting 90% of their resources to being human, and everything else to being on the internet.
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>>81515764
neither does he most of the time
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>>81518525
based
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>>81509899
You're giving him way too much credit, he even had the Tumblr-sidecut girl as a voice of reason, chiding the other delinquent teens for their anti robot sentiments. He definitely wants to portray the robot as facing some small degree of inequality for once, and he put an embodiment of tumblr* in there to say that doing so is wrong

*embodiment in that it is a cool teen with a trendy hairstyle, if it were an accurate representation it would of course be an obese transperson who hasn't left their home in 80 hours
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>>81520972
Except be yet another vague possibility for the eventual threat that will take two punches.
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>>81508859
>MFW a joke comic that had like less than 10 installments does a better job portraying the trials of an intelligent but intimidating looking robot integrating into human society than Jeph's done with hundreds and hundreds of them.
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