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A wild Mando appears - Edition

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode (2x20 - Twilight of the Apprentice):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-bJu__WXmY

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Download links: (Check here for the newest episode + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
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Pink hair next season?
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So, what eventually happened to Jar Jar Binks? Dubs decides the dunce's fate.
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So...what are they going to do with Rex next season?

What arc can he finish?
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>>81432128
he was snoke the whole tiime
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>>81432128
The real power behind the empire.
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>>81432128
he became a senator in the New Republic
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>>81432144
WEW
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>>81432144
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>>81432144
The first post out of the gate.
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>>81432144
That was quick.
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>>81432086
>Sabine shaves her head
>prosthetic maul horns on her head
What? It's not like Kanan will ever see them.
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>>81431404

His eyes came into physical contact with a searing hot object. When that happens to eyeballs, they explode. His sockets are empty now.

>>81432086
>Pink hair next season?

I personally hope she'll go with something natural looking as far as humans go... So it probably won't happen.
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>>81432128
Pablo has spoken
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>>81432144
EVEN YOUSA, DA BOMBAD MASTER OF DA KNIGHTIES OF REN, HABEN NEVER FACE SUCH A MUY MUY CHALLENGE
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>>81432128
Something about being given a high position in the Empire for being the one Senator to believe in Palpatine during his rise to power.
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>>81432144
So that theory about Jar Jar Binks is true.
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>>81432227
Based Pablo
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>>81432226
We have no idea what the saber did precisely. Those blades are really hot, just passing near within an inch of his face would be enough to fuck it up. After all, as far as we can see his nose isn't missing the upper bridge but the skin was melted.
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>>81432227
>Jar Jar Binks takes the advisory position
>in the Imperial Ruling Council, stealing food from Sate Pestage's plate, making Mas Amedda trip and fall down the Thousand Steps of the Imperial Palace
>Oopsies! Moy moy so clumsy, As Mademma!
>He survives every assassination attempt because all the assassins keep getting in each other's way
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>>81432230
Holy shit I'm laughing so hard at this.
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>>81432376
>Mr. Magoo's his way to a natural death as an old man after near daily attempts on his life for decades
>>81432227
But did he ever end up having kids with his gf?
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Im 4 episodes into this show and I cant get over the amount of plot armor the main characters all have.

I know "storm trooper aim" is always joked about but holy shit, storm troopers, turrets, ships, etc can never land a hit on them. Or they just dont shoot at them. And if a hit is magically landed, LOL they have shields.

Im also amazed at how casually storm troopers die on a disney channel show.

>the kid is in a storm trooper training facility
>they have cadets training doing shit that actual storm troopers could never hope to do
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>>81432545
was she finger fucked through the force?
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>ywn cuddle with the Seventh Sister on Christmas eve.
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>>81432376
>After the Emperor falls, a battle fleet masses over Coruscant to destroy the Imperial Palace and finish Jar Jar off
>Jar Jar fumbles a plasma ball into the planetary shield complex and creates a unique oscillation that bounces their glassing shots right back at them
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SENATOR BINKS STORYTIME

From Star Wars Tales #20
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>>81432618
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>>81432558
If you read the books you find out that is actually an OFFICER TRAINING school.
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>>81432605
The force is strong.
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>>81432657
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>>81432558
>>they have cadets training doing shit that actual storm troopers could never hope to do

I really don't know what happened there. But then again, you see those kids in a special class where the cadets Aresko is screening might have the potential of being Force Sensitive. So it makes sense they might have better aiming skills.
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>>81432700
And so, the true identity of Snoke was foretold in 2004!

The End
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>>81432637
Which really only makes it worse. Officers in Star Wars are typically even lazier fuckers.

Pretty much like real life officers, amirite?
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>>81432690
>Jar Jar pulling a Bentsen-Quayle in reverse
Truly a political genius
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>>81432727
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>>81432727
meesa not even gungan and meesa found this offensive
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>>81432558
Well from memory there was that one guy who almost beat the shit out of Kanan in a fist fight.
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>>81432762
Huh?
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So can we all agree yet that the season 2 finale was kinda a huge letdown.
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What do you guys think we'll get from Maul in season 3?
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>>81432861
Vice presidential debate from 1992 election season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRCWbFFRpnY

To this day, still considered one of the sickest burns in politics
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>>81432727
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>>81432886
I wouldn't call it a letdown, though I wish the finale hadn't been like 75% about Maul. The actual main event ends of feeling like an afterthought because of it.
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>>81432886
The only part I found disappointing was how they didn't explicitly show the result of the ahsoka-vader fight. If she had survived, we'd have seen her process the final revelation that Vader was Anakin, and we'd get a better emotional payoff; if she had died, we'd have gotten a satisfying, touching conclusion to their relationship. Instead we get some metaphorical horseshit.

At least she didn't become a lumberjack
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And for good measure, here's George R. Binks, also from Star Wars Tales #20

And yes, this was done by Tony Millionaire
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>ANGRY HELICOPTER NOISES INTENSIFY
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>>81432605
The force is definitely strong in her.
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>>81433058

>>81433057
I'm imagining YOOOU FOOOOOOL blaring over loudspeakers
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>>81433096
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You know, considering the whole point of Disney's nucanon is to expunge the sins of the prequels, why are there so many constantly moving lightsaber blades?

Wasn't that one of the big problems with the prequels? Lightsabers out the ass, lightsabers fucking everywhere. TFA does a pretty good job limiting lightsabers but they're fucking everywhere in Rebels.
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>>81432968
It would have been fine if Mauls story had a good conclusion. He gets tossed of the pyramid because he knew Vader was coming and attacked his allies anyway. He was fucked when Vader came down anyway, even if the battle station was operational. Did he really think he and Ezra stood a chance by themselves? No, it was lazy writing and the payoff was shit.
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>>81433153
End
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What do you guys expect to see from Maul in season 3?
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>>81433110
That's not the point of the nucanon, the point was to expunge the shitty EU. More lightsabers = better
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>>81433110
>considering the whole point of Disney's nucanon is to expunge the sins of the prequels
No? Where did you even get that idea?
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>>81433177
>Come Back
>Gain Power
>Lose it all
>Almost Die
>I'll get you next time Gadget
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>>81433177
It'd be cool if Ezra just kinda went away with him for a little while. Have an arc where the crew is looking for him and Ezra is undergoing sith training and kinda realizes it's not what he really wants. That would be cool. What I expect is for Ezra to act like a edgy cunt for awhile and for Maul to job to not! Rom Kota
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>>81433118
The only part of Maul's plan that made sense was conning someone into helping him get the holocron. He went full retard on everything else. Even if he hadn't decided to betray Kanan and Ahsoka way too soon, he already fucked up by sending Ezra up alone because he was confident that after having talked for a few minutes and shared a few things about each other Ezra was now going to be loyal enough and immersed enough in the dark side to just go along with the plan. The moment he realizes what the holocron-temple combo will do, he goes "oh shit I didn't want this, fuck Maul tricked me" and that's without Ezra even knowing that Maul had already turned on the others. So Maul pretty much engineered a scenario that had no way of ending favorably for him. He keeps trying to be Sidious but he's horrible at it and doesn't even realize how bad he is at being a mastermind.
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>>81433184

JewJew's shitty "muh practical effects" copy-pasted reboot of A New Hope

I want to punch this bastard in his smug, smug face

> HEY LOOK GUYS I KNOW WHAT STARWARS IS REALLY ABOUT
> copies whole plot of the old one, not daring to explore new themes because change is bad
> there's still no Jedi
> look a new death star
> the main villain's an actual school-shooter edgelord
> muh diversity
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>>81433288
xD
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>>81433288
Worst part is he got away with it. TFA was a huge economical success and critics loved it, all thanks to Disney's huge media empire. Fuck this gay earth
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>>81433288
Okay, well yeah, that's TFA. But that's not what the nucanon is about. Abrams has no control over canon or any input on projects outside of TFA and to a lesser extent Episode 8.
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>>81433273

He decided to rush things in hope of gaining control over the superweapon before Vader arrived

> sees vader
> sends Ezra to initiate the process
> kills inquisitors
And if the plan had gone right:
> kills kanan and ahsoka
> "ezra im so sorry, your friends are dead. They weren't strong enough to protect themselves from the dark side"
> uses superweapon on Vader once he arrives
> rules the galaxy with a new apprentice at his side

Of course there are a couple of holes in this plan (like what if the superweapon can't target just one person, or Ezra knows how good Maul is at fighting and doesn't believe he tried to stop the inquisitors)
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>>81433288
I was talking to a buddy awhile ago, he said if I didn't like a TFA I didn't like ANH. I love ANH, I hate TFA because it copies it plot point for plot point. It doesn't break new ground, and it kind of makes the OT seem pointless. They coulda done anything, and as long as it was well written it would've been loved. But they chose to make a sequel that rehashed the first movie. I haven't been more disappointed in a movie in a long time.
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>>81433110
>Disney's nucanon

You realize Disney didn't have a hand in the EU being axed, right? Lucasfilm had been planning that well before George sold it to Disney.

>why are there so many constantly moving lightsaber blades?
>Wasn't that one of the big problems with the prequels?

No. Lightsabers were among the things the prequels did better than the OT.


>>81433180
>the point was to expunge the shitty EU.

More or less this. Tough arguably there were some gems in the old EU. But as a whole it was plagued with inconsistency and retcons that weren't retcons but were sorta retcons twice removed on the Solo's side.
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>>81433273
>He keeps trying to be Sidious but he's horrible at it and doesn't even realize how bad he is at being a mastermind.
Yeah, pretty much. Even his Shadow Collective didn't have a strong foundation because he just bullied everyone into it. The moment he was captured the Hutts bailed on him, and the Pykes and Black Sun were already having doubts about the arrangement because it was clear Maul was just using them as a personal army for his personal problems and this had absolutely no benefit for them.
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>>81432558
>d I cant get over the amount of plot armor the main characters all have.

It gets much worse until it gets better, but hang in there. Pic related.
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>>81433288
I wanted to like TFA. Then I remembered that JJ was involved in Lost and I had to hate it on principle.

It was no wonder TFA was just a bunch of set up and unanswered questions.
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>>81432143
Fighting in Endor
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>>81433419
The only group that was even really loyal to him were the Mandalorians and that was thanks to him exploiting their rule about challenging the leader. The others had no reason to stay with him beyond fear. Sidious and even Dooku both know that fear alone isn't the best way to get minions to obey, it's a handy tool when they get out of line but incentive works better.
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>>81432919

Oooooooooh

B R U T A L
R
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A
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>>81432919
I like the little "nah bitch, nah" look Bentsen gives him right after he compares himself to Kennedy
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>>81433250

That is fucking AMAZING.
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>then you will die

>haha jk
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>>81433507

>Fighting in Endor

He'd be 72 then. That white guy ain't Rex.
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>>81433288
I liked TFA
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>>81433607

>Okay Master, the kid and the blind guy are gone, it's time to show each other 15 years worth of unresolved 'technique'.
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>>81433665
would it be ok if they invented a thingy that slows down his aging?

they'd just have to be careful not to make it not super gay like the RC novels did
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>>81433782
>would it be ok if they invented a thingy that slows down his aging?
Why would they need to?
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>>81433782
meant to quote
>>81433628
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>>81433628
What do you know about how long humans live in Star Wars or the possible types of health care that can keep their old folks relatively physically active long into their twilight years?
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>>81433782

>would it be ok if they invented a thingy that slows down his aging?

Not really. I don't think the Kaminoans are interested in altering a mature clone's aging process. Especially a clone who's served the purpose they were paid to create him for. And even if they did know how, I doubt the Rebels would dish out what would probably be an outrageously huge amount of credits just for one guy.

>>81433937
>What do you know about how long humans live in Star Wars

Enough to make a logical assumption that they age the exact same as we do. They outright say that Clones age twice as fast as a normal Clone, and that a mature clone takes ten years to make.

Face it son, your headcanon is dead.jpg
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>>81434090
>they outright say that Clones age twice as fast as a normal human

whops.
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>>81434090
>>81434117
>They outright say that Clones age twice as fast as a normal Clone
Well, that's not technically wrong if you had phrased it as "Clones" vs "clones", where the first is "Clones" that everyone knows as the troopers and "clones" as a generic term biological copies
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>>81434146

See >>81434117
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>>81434090
>Enough to make a logical assumption that they age the exact same as we do. They outright say that Clones age twice as fast as a normal Clone, and that a mature clone takes ten years to make.

Aging twice as fast says nothing about longevity, anon. That says even less about what their medical technology can do to keep someone relatively active in old age. Face it, anon, your "facts" are uncoordinated.
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>>81434280

Regardless, it's obviously not Rex.
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>>81433177
I want him to die in an excruciating way.
He took my waifu...
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>>81434444
Regardless it can be whoever they want it to be. They control the horizontal. They control the vertical. They do not even respect your quads.
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>>81434453
> getting attached to this shell of a character who only appears for one season
Never got this meme
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I'm expected to be massively disappointed by the Ezra-Kanan duel.

Maybe it'll take place where he first explained the Force and Ezra will switch back to good for some reason.
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>>81433180
>>81433184
>>81433401
There are still too many fucking lightsaber blades in Rebels. The Inquisitors have fucking double-bladed lightsabers, Christ. It's overkill.

Plinkett is right about how the prequels ruined lightsabers.
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>>81434090

They don't outright say the clone troopers age twice as fast as a normal clone. They say "a mature clone would take a LIFETIME to grow" without growth acceleration. Since an unaltered clone is just a human, this is referring to the fact that it would take as long to grow a clone to maturity as it would to grow a typical human.

The clone troopers have growth acceleration. Sifo-Dyas placed the order approximately ten years before AOTC. Therefore, the first batch of clone troopers is -- at most -- 10 years old in AOTC. So we know from canon that clone trooper growth acceleration must at least double the rate of development to produce an adult human male ready for combat in 10 years.

For all we know, they may actually grow faster than double speed.

That said, this is a galaxy full of all kinds of very old people in very good physical condition. Most of the ones we know are Force-sensitive, so that probably has something do with it, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that a man in his 70s -- or equivalent -- could be kept in fighting condition with the aid of Star Wars medical science. Tarkin was doing well enough at 60 to go on combat operations to capture a Jedi and destroy a comm tower.

On top of that, the Alliance needs every man they can get. If Rex is the equivalent of a 72 year old man and wants to go on a combat op, they're not really in a position to say no.

I'm not saying Rex IS Gramps. I'm saying he COULD be. The slight difference in skin tone is something they can gloss over; perhaps all that time hiding out with the fleet has made him a bit paler on account of less sun exposure and more artificial light exposure.
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watching rebels season 2, I honestly thought I wouldn't like this as much as I do, though it'll never compare to based Fives fucking shit up.

I want to lewdly jiggle Hera's lekku, she's absolute top tier desu. Is she the same girl the clones saved during the Ryloth arc?
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>>81433288
This man would've probably done a better job.
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>>81434519
Most people don't seem to have any problem. There are more complaints about how thin the blades are than how many there are.
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>>81434531
Not sure he's ready for major motion picture directing. Lucas sadly wasn't.
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>>81434519
I thought they all got the same lightsaber more as a uniform than anything. Their spinny ability makes up for the inquisitor's lack of proper sith training
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>>81433177
I don't think Obi Wan is doing much these days other than watching sand, maybe he wants to get another piece of Maul- you know, after he got his legs.

(although the rumors of Obi-Wan: the trilogy might make his involvement DOA)
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>>81434523
As much time as you spent writing that (kudos, btw) you could just show him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcWfipoEz6k#t=2692

Filoni has more say on the matter than one disgruntled anon.
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I hope Vader kills Maul, maybe not in Rebels but just eventually at some point. And preferably in some way that mirrors his original supposed death on Naboo. That way Maul could go out in some tragically pathetic way that seems to be his style, and Anakin's Sith Lord kill count could be bumped up to 3.
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>>81434488
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>>81434519
>Plinkett is right about how the prequels ruined lightsabers.

Except he's wrong about everything.
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>>81433110

>considering the whole point of Disney's nucanon is to expunge the sins of the prequels

Where the fuck did you ever get this idea? No, seriously, where?

You are aware of what got axed and what didn't, right? The purge happened April 25, 2014. The only things that survived are the OT, the PT, and The Clone Wars, i.e. anything George Lucas had a direct hand in.

The prequels are all canon. So is The Clone Wars. They were specifically kept deliberately, not by accident. They didn't try to purge them and "miss" somehow.

The fact that JJ decided to do the whole prequel hate dogwhistle bullshit is because JJ a shit. That's his own damn fault. And I guess it's also Kathleen Kennedy's fault for letting him. Still, the only reason they did that is because they correctly guessed it would make money, not because they're somehow committed to the idea in itself.
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>>81434653
I'd rather it be Obi-Wan to do it, but at this point I'm not even picky. Maul just needs to be put down.
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>>81434570
He would've at least come up with a script that is not copy paste ANH
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>>81434531

This man is your friend! He fights for freedom!
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>>81434701
Obi-wan would be good for the bookends aspect, but yeah I agree that Maul needs to die already.
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>>81434531

Is it just me, or does Dave bear an uncanny resemblance to the Traveling Wisdom Minstrel from oglaf?
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>>81434800
Nose is a little different, but other than that it's pretty similar.
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>>81434687
>The purge happened April 25, 2014.

I thought it happened in 2013.
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>>81434716
A lot of people could have at Lucasfilm. They have some talented enough people. End of the day their original writer dropped out on them and they called in JJ and Kasdan to complete it. They also didn't want to delay production as much as possible. End of the day Kathleen Kennedy signed off on it.

Honestly I think it has more to do with playing it extremely safe, though at the same time I feel, yeah, they didn't have to rip off ANH to do that. The only good thing about the situation is imagining the entire First Order is a bunch of tryhard fuckups just as bad as Kylo's Vaderboo worship. They are probably proud their super weapon was destroyed, just like the Empire's. Their next one will be even cooler! And involve some kind of overly elaborate but still pretty obvious trap!
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>>81434872

Nope.

2013 is when it was announced that the Story Group had been formed and was working on reorganizing the canon.

April 25 2014 is when they finally showed everyone what they'd been working on and announced the creation of Legends.
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>>81432011
I am about to marathon the entire show, what should I know beforehand?
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Seriously though Snoke? Out of all the things you could have called your villain you went with Snoke?
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>>81434899

It's a little more complicated than that.

Lucas and Arndt were already working on a screenplay, but it kept breaking down around the time their female Jedi heroine got off her shitty home planet and used the map to find Luke Skywalker, because he couldn't avoid taking over the whole damn movie after that.

They were still working on it when Lucas decided that it didn't matter, people would hate it anyway just because his name was attached to it, he should just sell it all because fuck it. So he sold Lucasfilm.

Disney took a look at the story treatment, made some requests as to things to change, and brought in Abrams and Kasdan. Arndt said that given the circumstances, he would need 18 months to produce a screenplay that would be ready to go. Disney told him he had 6.

Abrams and Kasdan decided they could do it in 6, and let Arndt go, then hammered out a screenplay in 6 months. And that's the story of how TFA's screenplay was written.
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>>81434931
Don't get attached to imperial waifus/husbandos
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>>81434649
why the hell

what is the purpose of this

why do we need to shove muh oc's into every single appearance that we can? This is some deviantart-tier shit. Not everybody needs to be present at key points throughout the franchise.

what happened to there being a larger galaxy full of people whose stories we may never even see (but document extensively anyway because we're all autistic)

am I the only one that feels this way?
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>>81434931

All the interesting characters, aka Rebels original side characters, are dead/dropped.
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>>81434942
Tell that to Han Solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KECJT7uX6rE
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>>81435093
Because he can. And if you had his job you'd do the same, because that's what that kind of power does to you.
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>>81435009
I know a lot of people who don't like the movie blame JJ, but Kasdan to me was always kinda shit without George to reign him in. I feel like TFA was made with a lot of George's ideas in mind though. Rey especially.
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>>81435093
I see no issue with this, it's not that important what Rex does, guy on endor or not.
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>>81435093
You mean they should just focus on the boring day to day life of, say, a teenage moisture farmer on Tattooine?
Good luck getting any interesting stories out of that scenario.
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>>81435231
>but Kasdan to me was always kinda shit without George to reign him in.

How gone do you have to be for George to be the one to reign you in?
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>>81435166
He's pretty much George's apprentice now so he's earned it
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>>81435093
I'm so sorry for your original Endor old man husbando, anon. RIP in peace, Nik Sant, aka Gramps. You and the rest of the EU shall be avenged.
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>>81435260
Wanting to kill Lando off in the Sarlacc scene bad. He doesn't understand Star Wars as much as George either.
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>>81435231

The problem is that Kasdan can write good dialogue and that is IT. That's all he can do. He needs someone else to do everything else.

George is the kind of reckless idea factory that pairs well with that. Kasdan can steer George's crazier ideas a little, while George gives Kasdan material to write dialogue for.
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>>81435260
Sometimes it's easier to recognize the madness in another. They kept each other in check. Kind of like the odd couple, only less gay.

Probably less gay.

A little bit, anyway.
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>>81435009

>ucas decided that it didn't matter, people would hate it anyway just because his name was attached to it, he should just sell it all because fuck it. So he sold Lucasfilm.

I would've watched it, George. At least you cared up until then!

Sometimes I wish they'd just hand it all over to Dave. But overseeing the cartoon understandably is a big task that requires all his attention.
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>>81435009
>he would need 18 months to produce a screenplay that would be ready to go
>Abrams and Kasdan decided they could do it in 6
This explains a lot, really
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>>81435460
The sad part is how much effort he was putting into TCWs but how little credit he received. People still are shocked to hear how much he did. It's really sad. He deserved better. Hell, he deserved better than whatever the hell was going on in Strange Magic, but then we all did.
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Reminder to anyone doubting Rebels or Ezra's character:

Filoni has the amazing power to create or retcon the most implausible or broken characters and settings and make them compelling and interesting. We saw it with Ahsoka and Maul, we saw it with the Clone troopers, we saw it with Asajj. We saw it with the peaceful Mandalorians. Hell, we've been seeing it with Kanan over the past two seasons. He basically redeemed Anakin into a likeable character, by tempering Movie Anakin with his own flavour of Cartoon Anakin. The man knows how to make you attached to characters and make that attachment pay off.

I have no doubt that by the end of Rebels Ezra will be in a much better place than he is now.
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>>81435460
>>81435509
At least we still have Dave and his TCW team. The guys at Lucasfilm are alright and Disney likes them.
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>>81435520

TCW didn't get good until season 3. It was sure trying, and it had scattered great episodes in season 1 and 2, but it didn't get consistently good until season 3.

That's the benchmark Rebels needs to meet. It needs to get good in season 3. Hopefully it will.
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>>81435509
>People still are shocked to hear how much he did.
Yeah, I still see people who think he just came to a meeting or two and signed off on stuff like he did with a lot of EU projects, but when people say this was George's show, they mean it. He didn't just slap his name on it and call it a day, this was his baby.
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>>81435520
>>81435541

Dave should make a movie.

I mean, he made the Clone Wars movie, but that was before he and his team had learned how to properly do their jobs. Plus it was meant to appeal to children. Without those considerations he would probably be better than Abrams.
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>>81434488
>not falling in love with beautifully crafted art
SS wasn't that, but you get the point, I hope.
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So:

-Rex mourns Ahsoka
-Kanan adjusts to being Daredevil
-Ezra opens the holocron and learns its secrets, subverting Kanan
-Seeks out Maul, hostile but willing to learn
-Eventual Ezra vs. Kanan duel
-Rebels have a base and begin large assaults?
-Inquisitors are pretty much cucked, don't see the point on spending any more budget on them
-Non-Force villain?

-Sabine continues being boring
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>>81435585

I have a theory that TCW is actually Star Wars in its purest form.

Think about it.

Movies, as a storytelling medium, are horribly hamstrung by several factors - need to make back money / appeal to a large audience, need to fit within a certain length of time, and need to spend money on special effects.

Lucas wasn't constrained by any of these factors when he produced TCW. It's far more practical to fully animate a show than create special effects for a live-action TV show or movie He was spending a million dollars per episode to make each perfect. He was often sitting in on meetings and getting very involved in every stage of the production.

And he trusted Filoni to do a good job with it when he wasn't there. This factor more than any others makes me think Filoni is our only hope if we want a proper Star Wars movie again. Problem is I'm not sure the guy knows how to work within a time frame and outside of animation. Those could be big hurdles.
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Finally caught up. Oh boy. Now I can write my fanfiction AU where Ezra agrees to be Maul's apprentice.
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>>81435705

That's not a theory, that's a goddamn fact.
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>>81435762

It's not an AU when it's obviously going to happen in canon.
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>>81435587

>I mean, he made the Clone Wars movie,

Actually, that wasn't meant to be a movie. It is/was what was supposed to be the show's first three episodes. Fox or whatever just made them cobble them together into a 'movie'.

But yeah, Dave should totally do a movie when/if he gets a chance.
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>>81435585

That makes me sad. People shit on George too much, he gave us a lot of things to love.
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>>81435698
>Kanan adjusts to being Daredevil
Lost it.
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>>81435798
Yes, but I can't wait that long.
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>>81435698

you forgot

-Zeb and Kallus continue their lame-ass budding bromance
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>>81435801

4 episodes.

And iirc it was George's idea to stitch them together.

It was the early days. George was still rusty and having questionable ideas. Ziro was originally going to speak Huttese, but then George came into the office one day and said he wanted Ziro to speak Basic and sound like Truman Capote, so that's what we got.
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can I watch this season without watch 1 and 2 and still catch on?
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>>81435923

This was season 2.

Watch Rebels season 1. Honestly, I feel like overall season 1 was better than season 2, even if season 2 delivered some excellent episodes that far exceed anything season 1 offered.

Then watch this season.
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>>81435947
Oh only one? I tried so hard to really get into it, since I missed out on TCW fun, but after 6 episodes I just can't bring myself to care about anyone. And as anon said before, their plot armor really takes all the fun out of it. Gee, I wonder if the gang will get out of this mess. Oh they do. ....But then again I guess the same goes with TCW? Not like you didn't know Obiwan, Anikin and Asoka were not going to make it.
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>>81435798
Doubt it. Ezra seems to have decided that Maul had some good points but I think he's also decided that Maul himself is a shit.
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>>81436013
Yeah, Maul totally blinded and fucked up his Mater/friend/father figure. You think he's going to jump ship and go hang out with him?
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Maybe the holocron contains a red lightsaber crystal

Ezra makes another one, Kanan is horrified, but accepts due to limited resources.
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>>81436013
If anything I think losing Ahsoka is what may have inspired whatever Sith-like thoughts led him to open the holocron. So he may have taken some of Maul's advice in how he thinks and what he needs to do to protect the people he cares about, but I really doubt he'd fall for Maul's "trust me" act again (especially since Maul has already proven he's actually pretty shitty at it). I think Maul's purpose in Ezra's character arc is just to plant those seeds, not to actually become his teacher.
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>>81436043
What if Ezra just learns from Maul then betrays him at the last second? Like becoming a balance in the force. Purple lightsaber wielders are said to use an aggressive style that incorporates both light and dark side teachings.
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>>81436059
>Purple lightsaber wielders are said to use an aggressive style that incorporates both light and dark side teachings.
I still laugh at Stover having come up with that.
>Mace's lightsaber is purple... so that means HE MUST BE DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO THE DARK SIDE AND DAYDREAMS OF MURDERING PEOPLE FOR NO REASON
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>>81435996

TCW has plot armor in full force when it comes to characters who were in Revenge of the Sith, but absolutely everyone expected Ahsoka to die by the end of the series. For the first season or so, some were praying it would be much sooner; she was an annoying little bit for a while there.

The thing is, The Clone Wars didn't have a central crew to follow. It just told various stories that happened during the war. A lot of these center on Anakin and people he knows, but there are tons that don't involve Anakin, Obi-Wan, or Ahsoka at all. Season 1, episode 5, "Rookies" is one of the best episodes the show ever had, and it focused on a squad of clones stationed on Rishi Outpost during a CIS attack. The only character in this episode that you know for a fact has to survive is Commander Cody. Everyone else is expendable.

It was one of the episodes that got everyone to actually sit up and take notice of TCW. The rest of the season did a poor job of keeping the hype going, but eventually the show figured out what was great about Rookies and how to apply that elsewhere. Episodes that focused on Obi-Wan, Anakin, and/or Ahsoka remained common throughout the show's lifespan, but episodes that focused on characters who really COULD die became steadily more frequent, just because they could do more with those characters.

TL;DR: Rebels is Star Wars family-friendly Firefly, with all that entails. TCW is Star Wars teen-friendly Game of Thrones, with all that entails.
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>>81436087
Honestly it wasn't too bad of an idea.
Blue + Red = Purple it's just logical
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>>81435705
This was posted word for word on /r/starwars, hi /u/TwoSquareClocks
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>>81436192
Naw I developed it a bit before posting on Reddit because I didn't want to get torn apart by retards
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>>81436059
>Like becoming a balance in the force.

Except that's kinda what the Jedi are though. If they were light side like everyone thinks they are, they'd never act and be monks in their temples instead of space-samurai peacekeepers. The light side they use to be selfless and serve. The dark they use to act for the greater good.
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>>81433177
Mail and Kenobi, with Kenobi brutally shutting him down when he tries to talk shit.

"Go ahead and find out. I don't care. Because the all-powerful Maul is a failure. It's the TRUTH MAUL! You hounded me without mercy, but you never broke me! You only made me stronger! And even if you kill me, I'll be laughing at you because the last thing I'll think of is you on Mandalore for another 30 cycles - being ground back down into nothing"
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>>81435841
>lame-ass
Only when Zeb's catching
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>>81436249
> the light side they use to act for the greater good
> the dark side they use to act for the greater good
You said basically the same thing for both
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>>81433288
>>81433366
>>81433394

but Anons, you cried when the Prequels were different from the OT. This is what you wanted. This is what you asked for. This is the future you chose.
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>>81436243
>posting on reddit

lel
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>>81436153
There's a sense of logic to it, but applying it to Mace Windu doesn't really work
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>>81436104
>For the first season or so, some were praying it would be much sooner; she was an annoying little bit for a while there.

I admit that I was one of these people. But then Ahsoka started getting better each season. And then she left the order (which was something I figured from the begining would happen if she didn't die). And when it happened, when she walked away from Anakin and the credits ended, I sat quiet for like twenty minutes processing what the fuck just happened. That's when you know that you've made good shit when there's a character that someone starts off hating, and by the end of it all they actually, genuinely care about what happened to that character.
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>>81436304
> he's not a karma master
why do you even bother living you filthy pleb
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>>81436347

We watched Ahsoka grow up. Simple as that.

Like I feel as if she was my younger sister or something, it's weird. Fantastic character development
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>>81434662
Not really. A lot of his larger points are accurate, if also sometimes exaggerated for humor.
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>>81434531

>In order to ensure the security and continuing quality of the Star Wars movies, the person in power shall henceforth be Darth Filoni.

>For a safe and secure viewing experience.
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>>81436437

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN3BntTh7fE&index=10&list=PLDA8AB0D75771F1DA
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>>81435705
>TCW is actually Star Wars in its purest form.
Eh. Though that doesn't speak to quality either way.

TFA was as "proper" a Star Wars movie as TPM (using the original film/s as the standard) it just wasn't very good and rarely interesting. Not unlike the TPM and the other two prequels.
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>>81436508
>ROTS
>Not being good
(you)
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>>81432352
Thinking about it, two things:

1. they weren't going to alter Kanan's model to show damage to the structure of his nose, they just did a simple texture replacement to show the burns

2. they REALLY weren't going to show damage to his nose and horrify the children with kanan having a horizontal chunk of his face removed

Definitely a fwiw. People have played up the damage but it's a huge blink and you miss it moment, which is surely how they got it past S&P.

Mostly it's sad to realize the next time he calls members of his crew by the wrong name it won't be (as) funny.
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>>81436508
Hell, TPM was a decent enough movie too. Never got why people disliked that one. AotC has the shit romance, the shit dialogue, the shit everything else (only the action is good) - what was TPM lacking? except for the obvious fact that it had Jar Jar
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>>81436564
Ian McDiarmid served his ham with a masterful elegance. Otherwise no, I don't think RotS is good or interesting.
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>>81436564
Doesn't surprise me, I mean opinions are all over the place anyway especially with these controversial movies.

For the most part I agree with this fairly common assessment:

TFA was a popular movie that had a solid enough plot (even if it borrowed heavily from earlier movies). It was story strong but sorely lacking in world building.

The Prequels are generally considered rather flawed. The stories are weak, and a good way to describe them is having the proper ingredients but with incorrect proportions and overall very sloppy. But it built the Star Wars universe like a champ. Very alien planets, cool ships, cool droids, cool aliens (for the most part), overall a cool setup for the war. TCWs shows that you can take the Prequel Era and tell some damn fine stories in that setting.

Say what you will about Lucas, the man has a damn fine vision. Execution can get out of hand at times but with the right creative team backing him up they did some of the best work in the franchise. I'm sure that'll come off as controversial for some, but for a "mere kids cartoon" it did a lot with the lore, the characters, and even found ways to make the politics largely work.
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>>81436584
I'd watch the prequels over TFA any day.

JJ and his entourage are useless sacks of shite at best.
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>>81436584
I found the Obi-Wan parts were generally enjoyable, Anakin's was just painful to watch and too often got just plain creepy.

Kamino was very well handled, not too many problems with the dialogue and provided a lot of scenery porn and briefly gave a very convincing look of the clone's creation (the three actors used to show the stages of clone development were a bitch much, should have just left it at two). The scenes in the Jedi temple, however, blah. The missing planet puzzle was so obvious it made Obi-Wan look like a child himself for not figuring it out.
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>>81436707

the movie became less stupid after the asteroid scene. Of course it didn't become stupid-free - we still see stuff like Padme jumping around a droid factory - but it became less painful at least

Kamino was a tad boring but the concept of the clones and the Jango Fett chase were good enough to draw attention away from that
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What is with the way characters talk in Rebels? It's like every time they open their mouths their entire bodies have to move with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl3Q1wkP06o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=082FURQHd1A
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>>81436648
The Prequels also had better music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nk_WHHTQtY
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Why didn't Ezra start picking up sabers left and right? Spare parts for days. And I guess they're going to have Ezra convinced by the holocron that he NEEDS to be tutored by maul if he's going to have to fight more inquisitors?
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>>81436787
I can understand that opinion of Kamino. Mostly I appreciated the view, the scale, and the brief setup for how it was done. The growing vats especially. All those sterile sci-fi columns with little glass bulbs containing embryos. Elegant but creepy.

Lucas had an eye for setting up adverse dichotomies. Inside the complex it was very bright, clean, medical. The Kaminoans were very sedate, serene even. Outside the weather was wrecking ten kinds of hell.

Beautiful and peaceful but also foreboding, threatening.

Rather like the clones themselves. The rows of clean white armor, gleaming in the light, the calm, quiet professionalism - but knowing in the end they were destined to become the first Stormtroopers.
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>>81436870
That's how people talk anon. Hand gestures, movements of the head, switching your weight from one door to the other. Very few people just stand still and talk.
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>>81436870
More exaggerated communication. Easier to read their intentions, alignments and emotions.
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>>81436967
Guess he thought he didn't need it. What I'm wondering is how Vader cut through the lightsaber, handle and 'handguard' without cutting Ezra's hands and/or fingers off.

>>81436981
People don't bob up and down like chickens. Watch any conversation on the Rebels ship, especially Zeb. It's like he's trying to jump out of his chair.
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>>81437012
>Zeb.
He is an animal, though.

The expression is exaggerated, and this is because it's aimed at kids. They miss many nuances from mere speech, but they can intuitively read body language.
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>>81433782
That I wouldn't mind. I'm not sure how likely it is since it would require a diversion from the usual plot, but I would love an episode where they make a trip to Kamino hoping to help the clones.

Rex seems to be very lucky, a lot of the clones are described like Gregor and Wolffe. Okay Gregor was through some shit, but Filoni has mentioned a lot of them have mentally degraded. Effects of their genetic programming and conditioning, they tend to break down in their early old age.

Basically it would be nice to see the state of Kamino during the time of the Empire. Good to see them forced to do something right from their role in screwing over the galaxy and the Jedi. And just good to see them finally take some responsibility for their "products" and treat them like people. It won't reverse the early aging but just something to normalize it so they can enjoy the rest of the time they have left. Some kind of gene therapy or something.

I realize the Republic Commando novel series explored this, but who cares about Traviss. It's still not a bad idea. Rex and his brothers deserve better.
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>>81437040
I guess they don't understand Chopper at all then. I also forgot how animated Zeb gets. From what I remember he does let his shoulders slump until he becomes more active in a conversation. I kinda figured that was just his ego/arrogant speech pattern but maybe it's something all lasats do.
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>>81437012
But...sabers for days!
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>>81437161
Respect, then? A lightsaber is important to a Jedi, and looting it might be considered taboo among them.
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>>81437183
He would just be...recovering them. Yes. Perhaps they could help a new generation of jedi. As long as he doesn't let Hondo know.
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>>81436870
That entire episode with Tarkin in Rebels was absolutely fantastic. Filoni did a great job in Tarkin's entrance and introducing him to an audience that had no idea who he was and what he's capable of.
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>>81432545
This looks lewd instead of sad.
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Was there ever any explanation why the Republic suddenly decided to model their ships and uniforms after the guys that nearly wiped them out 3000 years ago?
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>>81434942
I have the vague feeling that was one of the things from Lucas they left it.

Haha, no, I bet that was all JJ.
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>>81437339
Perhaps because they're a practical design, based on however space works in Star Wars?
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>>81436648
Here's to (You)
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>>81437351
If they are a practical design, why do other designs even exist?
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>>81437339
Because a knife works better than a hammer if you have to ram someone.
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>>81437353
Oh shit, that was for >>81436655
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>>81437339
Because the people working on STOR only hired voice actors and just copied everything else from different eras without thinking about it.
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>>81436584
TPM had some weird pacing going on, but I never got people saying it was a bad movie.
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>>81437351
>>81437366
And uniforms?
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>>81437400
They're sexy
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>>81437339
I would like to think that they begged the Mon Calamari to build them a fleet and they refused.
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>>81437339
I'm going to be honest, it was pretty damn obvious that the plan was for the Sith Empire to WIN and the Jedi to eventually overthrow them anyway because the Sith are a shit.

So obviously after that Imperial trappings become de rigueur in the Republic and it got passed down via history.
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>>81437392
Plinkett sure nitpicks a lot, but makes many fair points about how the plot makes no fucking sense at multiple occasions.
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>>81432144
>>
>Dream I'm on a party ship in space with loads of friends, family and acquaintances
>Place gets locked down with no exit for some reason.
>People milling around, claiming spaces to sleep until lockdown is stopped
>I'm walking around looking for somewhere to relax
>See a fuck ton of Sith show up on the ass end of the ship
>Run and hide in the ventilation shaft
>Don't even tell anyone they're all gonna die.

Am I a coward /swr/?
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>>81437634
Yeah.
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>>81437634
When did your teeth fall out?
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>>81437634
You'd get betrayed by a filthy Neimoidian in the end anyway.
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>>81434523
I really do hope the old man does become Rex.
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>>81437634
Yes, you are. I wish I could dream.
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>>81437634
>>81437756
>>81437695
>>81437684
>>81437668

>Implying you'd try and throw hands with Sith Warriors

You're no coward anon, you're a quick thinker.
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>>81437421
>BioWare dev in thread
Any source on that, pham?
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Imagine how good it must feel for Matt Lanter to be the voice of Vader along with James Earl Jones.
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>>81432352
THIS IS HOW A SABER WORKS:

(Or at least NEVER fails to be able to answer a saber related question/situation/interpretation presented by the show/books/etc that I've seen)

Plasma encased in a magnetic energy field. Bam, the end. The sabers clashed and the sparking energy you see is the plasma bursting/attempting to burst free as their fields are compromised/warped for brief moments.

I never have any issues applying anything in the works with this interpretation, it answers how they can function just like swords and stay embedded in stuff, the force seem to create on their own when impacting things etc etc.

I'd field anything specific but I'm going to bed atm. I'll check to see if anyone has any thoughts on this though when I'm up.
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>>81432558
>Im also amazed at how casually storm troopers die on a disney channel show.

Actually like most of the time you can see them in the shot still...moving/groaning to show they're still alive. Sometimes it's just a foot but look at that foot move!
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>>81437923
"Oh yes, it was great. I cummed buckets" -Matt Lanter

Classic Matt.
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>>81438106
He's the Raimi of voice acting
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>>81437392
Weak characters, bad dialogue, weak plot, weak acting.
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>>81438253
:^)
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>>81437392
A lot of the dialog was excruciating and the plot meanders through three planets before eventually ending back on the first one, for pretty much no reason.

People have made an effigy out of the Prequels and let their hate get away from them, but the Prequels are, to greater or lesser extents, not very good movies. As shown by all the EU and New Canon shit that came out of them, the basic ideas were solid. But as movie in it of themselves? Not great.
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>>81438398
Why do you hate my movie, /co/?
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>>81438443
Because it's shit
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>>81434531
No you fucking retards. Dave Filoni directed the Clone Wars movie, the only thing that is worse than the prequels. He's a hack.
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>>81438443
because contrarian funposting makes my dick hard
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does anybody have a webm of chopper doing a sheev spin on the cargo freighter in rebels season 2?
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>>81438240
>"Ahsoka, why did you leave?"
>"Where were you, when I needed your dick-sucking lips gently kissing my genitalia."
Wasn't this a family friendly show, Matt.
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>>81436584
TPM is a horrible movie. The plot doesn't make any sense, the characters aren't likable, there is no sense of adventure, no humor, no tension and half of the characters are cartoons. The villain is a generic bad guy with no lines and no personality and there isn't even a main character you could root for. The dialogue in TPM is just as atrocious as in AOTC and ROTS and there are so many plot holes that even the most die hard SW fan can't suspend their disbelief when watching Phantom Menace.

The fact that you're defending this piece of shit movie shows that you're a young nostalgia fag who never watched TPM with a critical eye.
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>>81438484
But him as a producer would be great.
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>>81438484
That was nearly a decade ago, before he and his team had any experience. That movie was also a mess of Season 1 episodes thrown together because Lucas wanted to introduce Ahsoka (and the series in general) on the big screen.

Once he got off his feet, Filoni and his team turned TCW into essential Star Wars viewing, and he is starting to work the same magic into Rebels.

Filoni easily deserves another chance at making a movie.

I know Filoni did concept art for TFA, but I doubt any of it was used. In the Art of TFA book, he drew concept art of Felucia which looked neat.

Thing is though, I don't think Filoni actually WANTS to do movies. I think he and the LSG are happy for him to work in his little bubble of small screen adventures. He actually probably has more freedom that way, and can actually produce a lot more content in a Season of episodes than a movie, and he has previous experience so he knows how to make a Season of episodes work.

So while Filoni "gets" Star Wars, and probably could make a great movie, I think I am happy, as he is, to stay in the realm of tv.
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>>81438398
I don't like TFA much either. I'm willing to acknowledge both TFA and the prequels as being somewhat shit.
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>>81438535
>I won't leave you again
>then you will get die alongside those faggots you roped in, you backstabbing bitch
How the fuck Matt roped James into saying that line with him is anyone's guess.
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>>81438602
Jesus christ, Matt is a punk.
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>>81433607
Wait, snips didn't die in the last episode?
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>>81438568
Yeah, Filoni himself and his team grew very noticeably over the years. I don't think they would have done such a good job back in '08.
It didn't help that they pushed a couple produced-for-TV episodes smushed together into a theatrical release, of course.

I'd be down with them tackling a movie again - something that was conceived and produced as a movie - but at the same time I don't know if he could work his magic in live action.
And I don't know what the market is for a theatrical production of an animated movie in the style of TCW. Seems like a big risk.
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>>81434531
just let him make a throwaway SW movie about some unimportant shit and see how it goes
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>>81435698
What's the probability of Ezra getting a slight time skip growth spurt to make him look intimidating when he finally duel with Kanan?
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>>81438568
Not that person, but I don't think Filoni could direct a good or even decent movie. People here think that being a good story teller or being knowledgeable about the lore does make one a good director, but a director doesn't just have to be a creative person. I mean Lucas himself is a great example.
Did Dave Filoni ever have to direct real actors? Did he ever have to fight with demanding producers? What about building sets, balancing the use of practical effects and CGI and being pressured to make a financially and critically successful blockbuster movie for the masses? For people who might wanna go to see the new Star Wars movie but have never even seen any of the previous films? People hate Abrams for doing exactly what you have to do when you direct a major blockbuster movie. I don't think someone like Filoni could do that. His SW movie would probably be very similar to the prequels.
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>>81438724
Why would Filoni agree to do a high profile movie when he has more influence on the SW universe by doing the cartoon?
By creating long-term, nuanced stories he's actually created the bedrock of the nu-canon. You even get the feeling that TFA was influenced by his work in places.
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Man that finale was pretty good. Shame Asohka isn't dead. I really wished they'd tie that whole thing up. Oh well, hopefully season 3 she'll finally kick the bucket. Also Maul was really good. I'm a little iffy about him bring back in the game but at least his lines were good and even through his retarded decisions I still couldnt help but think he was the best part. Also I'm glad they made his light Saber sound like it did. Everyone else's sounds so flimsy and soft but his just tore through the air. RIP seventh sister you won't be missed.
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>>81438819
You raise valid points.

I think that people want Filoni over JJ because, yes JJ knows how to make a movie, but his movie was sorely lacking in anything new to get people really talking. And also lacking, lets face it, fanservice, that wasn't just winks and nods to the OT.

You're right though, I think a Filoni blockbuster would probably be closer to the Prequels than to TFA, for better and worse.

Also also agree with >>81438827 that he has more influence on Star Wars by doing tv because he can just pump out SO MUCH lore and shit that other creators have to abide too.

I think just about every book and comic released thus far has in some way been influenced by TCW, some of which even influenced by Rebels. And even TFA has some nods to TCW/Rebels thanks to their influence on the universe of Star Wars.

So I think Filoni should just stick to what he is doing.

Maybe if they ever do Live Action tv, they can get him on for a few episodes of that and see what happens, right?
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>>81438827
That's fair, of course. He seems to have found his niche, he has appreciable amounts of freedom and a lot of influence at this time. And from the looks of it, less pressure than someone in a high profile, high budget situation like JJ was.
He's already living the dream.
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>>81436436
Listen, Plinkett was definitely right about that, but you're missing the forest for the trees. It wasn't that lightsabers and the flippy shit that he objected to. It was that there was no emotional depth to those fights, where in the originals, underneath each fight was a philosophical, or personal battle being waged. Clone Wars and Rebels have the advantage of being a television series firs, and thus do not need to make every lightsaber fight this climactic thing, but when they are big ending of the season fights you get...
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>>81438876
I kinda hope Maul and maybe Ezra will preserve the Sith legacy to resurface again in another trilogy after Snoke.
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>>81438917
could Ezra be Snoke? The same lifeforce sappy shit that happened to Sheev in episode 3 could have made him look all old and fucked like that.
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>>81438905
>>81436436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg

So theres a ton of flippy shit here. Shit that would never happen in a real swordfight. But there is still a ton of emotional depth and payoff here.
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>>81438952
That's a big stretch. I'm still on board with the Pelagius theory. I'd be very disappointed if it's Ezra. I'm getting more and more nervous we're going to see Asokha on the big screen.
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>>81438905
Plinkett also criticized the prequels for focusing too much on lightsabers and not enough on the force like the OT did. I too think that introducing new ways to use the force would be more interesting than showing us lots of lightsaber fights, both in the movies and the TV shows.
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>>81439022
Why is it so hard for people to accept that Snoke is a completely new character who has never been mentioned before? The galaxy is vast enough for new villains. We don't have to use the same old characters again and again.
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>>81439053
The problem is the people who could show that off are either dead or palpatine. Yoda helping as much as he does is a stretch.
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>>81439071
Because it makes him even less interesting.
That's why.
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>>81439053
>>81439074
As it is the show is doing a lot with Ezra's Force empathy with animals, and some interesting question of why some animals seems predisposed to the Dark Side
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>>81439074
You don't have to be a master to learn new abilities. Kylo Ren is still an apprentice and he can freeze blaster bolts in mid air. Why shouldn't Maul or Kanan be able to do other neat things than push, pull and choke?
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check the Star Wars facebook, Andi asks Ridley
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>>81439022
I just finished the first half of the rebels season 2 finale. Ezra and Maul are the only mouscannon dark side force users I know of who actually hate the Sith. I don't know much about Plagueis other than what was said in ROTS, but from what I understand if he decided to make a comeback, he wouldn't make an entirely new order as he was a faithful Sith.

Maul would be too old to be Snoke, so Ezra does make sense. It probably will end up being Plagueis or some brand new asspull secret Sith character invented for the movies though.
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>>81439132
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>>81439071
Oh I'm sure he'll be some new OC. I don't really care either way since it's not like I have a say
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>>81439121
We don't know what Kylo Ren knew or didn't know before joining the knights. I sorta think a lot of his demonstrated force proficiencies (Energy redirection, Paralysis, mind meld, and push and Pull) were the basics Luke taught his students. All defensive techniques, All light side techniques. But thats rampant speculation, so feel free to ignore it.

Like I said, Ezra is doing new things with the force, and its not exactly brand new, but we haven't had a canon blind Jedi yet. And if you really think about it, this season has done quite a bit that has nothing to do with sabers. It just happens that this finale brings together almost all the forcewielders that use lightsabers left in the galaxy to one spot.
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>>81439133
Maul hates the sith only because they betrayed him. More accurately he hates Sheev. If he enacted his revenge then I'm almost certain he'd keep up the old traditions. He still buys into the rule of two and the sith faith.
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>>81439142
Too cute.
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>>81439142
>coming to HD-DVD
Did I hear that right? Why not put it on VHS and Laserdisc for that authentic old-school Star Wars experience?
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>>81439238
Season 3 Ezra and Kanan become inquisitors. Kanan becomes Jerec and season 4 is the adventures of Kyle Katarn.
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>>81439320
I can dig it
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>>81439133
Snoke is Luke's apprentice who killed all the other students.

Think about it. When Han is telling Rey and Finn about what happened to Luke, he doesn't mention Kylo by name. We're lead to believe it was him, but all we really know is that Luke took on a bunch of new students, one of them turned dark and wiped out the rest, and Luke went into hiding. And it seems like he's been hiding for some time.

Kylo isnt that old, and DEFINITELY isn't that talented or experienced. But he has this new dark side master whom we've never heard of before.

So I'm putting my money on the theory that Snoke was one of Luke's first students, likely his most promising. He turned dark (for unknown reasons) and defeated or corrupted the others. Kylo was only a kid or teenager when he turned, and the Knights of Ren aren't just his lackeys but the original students who fell with Snoke.

Snokes scars are consistent with what could be lightsaber wounds, too.

Seems way more likely to me than some random leftover sith, or some character from a cartoon.
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>>81439238
I wouldn't be surprised if they retcon all the jedi temple guards to have been blind to make themselves closer to the force or some other bullshit
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>>81439443
It might be that the helmets simply limited their sight, but I can't see the Jesi perpetuating that
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>>81439477
Blinding themselves I mean. But yeah so...Is the Holocron Kreia's?
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>>81439443
I can imagine them regularly undergoing blind training, as the little padawans do.

That's why I don't get why everyone was upset that Maul lost against a blinded Kanan. The latter was trained to fight without sight.
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>>81439429
Snoke is much older than Luke. We know that he saw the fall of the Republic and the rise of the Empire. He might even be older than Sheev.
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>>81420676
My one worry for lego TFA is going to be length.

The first and second lego SW games had 3 movies to work with, with 6 levels each, for 18 levels plus bonus missions.

Then the Complete Saga (not so complete now) had all 6 movies, with 6 levels, making 36, plus bonus missions.

Lego Clone wars had 6 levels for each boss, plus a final mission where they meet for 19, plus at least two bonus missions that i can remember where you play as the bad guys, for 21, plus mini games.

TFA, from what i've heard, is only going to have 18 total levels, including the Endor bonus levels, the movie itself, and levels showing what happend between RotJ and TFA.

The missions about what happened between, unlock every couple of main missions you complete.

So we'll probably get 10 main missions for the movie, 5 for in-between, and 3 for Endor. Shield Generator assault, Luke and Vader Vs. Palpatine, and the death star run.

I don't know that there is enough movie to get 10 levels of a game from it, unless they stretch it out really thin.

Also characters.

There could be at least 3 Finn's, 3-4 Rey's if not more, 2 han's, maybe 2 poe's, 2-3 Kylo's, etc...

Honestly I would have preferred a SW rebels game now that season 2 wrapped up, giving them time to at least get Rouge One done so that could maybe have characters, vehicles, or DLC story for the game to expand the play time.

I'm cautiously optimistic about TFA, but i'm too jaded to be anything more.
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>>81439498
dunno senpai, I really should get up to speed with the good parts of the old EU so I can get all these references and discuss shit with /co/. I've just finished all of rebels (and TCW) so I guess I better make my way through that endless old canon backlog while waiting for new mousecanon to arrive. I've read Knights of the Old Republic, and the story of the jedi going into exile after order 66 (I remember one jedi took a bunch of younglings in hiding with him and they all lived on some uncharted planet). Not sure where to go from here, I've heard good things about the Thrawn trilogy though, is it a good place to start?

>>81439521
We've seen before that when Kanan has no distractions he connects very strongly to the force and lets it guide him in battle, when he fought the High Inquisitor. It may be that his mediocre fighting ability normally isn't the result of being a former padawan who never received full training, but rather a gifted individual who never had the time to master his talent
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>>81439631
I agree. Star Wars Rebels or Lego Clone Wars 2 is the way to go. This is the first time I've been cautious of the game on the fact that what will there actually be to do? Especially as the new lego games have open world hubs, I just can't see any of the new planets being particularly interesting to explore
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>>81439651
at least we have based Hera and muh qt orange waifu

>ywn find a worse girl in the galaxy than Padme

>>81439631
it'll probably show the battle of Jakku in 1-2 levels as well
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>>81439594
That doesn't mean he couldn't have bbeen Luke's student. He may not have had any formal training prior to meeting Luke.

The new canon is being very cautious not to overshadow the Holy Trilogy, and having a secret hidden dark side master who is totally just as bad as Palpatine or Vader that no one knew about (IE Maul, rebels characters, Plagueis) kind of sabotage that effort.

Unless he's a clone of Palpatine with some or all of his memories (accounting for witnessing the rise of the Empire and his force origins)
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>>81439730
But SS was such a qt...I'll miss her...

>ywn find a worse girl in the galaxy than Padme
Agreed. Does Anakin realize how badly he fucked up?
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>>81439730
Orange waifu is the best waifu, Hera is not, but she's cute too.
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So, what's up with Sith eyes then? What's the background behind them?

Why didn't Dooku really get yellow eyes compared to the other main Sith lords?
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>>81440015
The dark side corrupts the body, that's what is happening to the eyes. The yellow eyes only occur during times that the Sith are closest to the dark side. I believe this is mentioned in the commentary on either the DVD release or the blu rays.

If you'll notice, when Anakin attacks the Jedi temple, his eyes were normal Sheev told him after the attack on the temple he would be strong enough to feel the full power of the dark side.

You'll also notice that his eyes go yellow after slaughtering all the seperatists, which would be a huge spike in the use of the Dark side.

They go back to normal when Padme arrives. They are also normal while fighting Obi Wan. His eyes go yellow as his rage and hate fill him when Obi deals what should have been a death stroke, and (my opinion here) he hates Obi Wan even more for letting him suffer.

You'll notice in ROTJ, His eyes are back to his normal colors as well.

As for Dooku, He was a Sith Lord, but I honestly think he was a Sith Lord trying to do right. More of a Grey Sith Lord than a true Dark Lord. He's never really put into a situation where he would have to call upon the full power of the Dark Side. You'll notice even during his duel with Yoda, he appears to duel only to find a way out and run. Same with his Duels with Anakin and Obi Wan.

Now for the Emperor, There is no doubt he is under the full influence of the Dark Side at all times. Once he made his "Change" into his true form, his eyes remain Yellow all the time, but when he was Senator Palpatine, he avoided using the Dark Side any more than he had so that he could remain in hiding.
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>>81440015
It's just something to make them look cool there isn't a DEEPEST LORE explanation for why they have different sith eye styles
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>>81439631
I played only Lego LOTR and the side content is really big with puzzles and shit. I hope the TFA game would be like that.
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>>81440015
Same why Palpatine didn't have them: Cloaking one's Sith eyes is some high-level force magic that they did to easier be the political navigators in the war. Maul, Vader and Palps as Emperor didn't need to do it.
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>>81440069
hello plebbit
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>>81440089
*tips
It's just a good answer to a common question, theres no reason not to repost it
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Would you, even if she's had more clones through her than a revolving door?
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>>81440142
I'd be to afraid she could dislocate a vertebra from her neck by a to intense movement
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>>81438905
>missing the forest for the trees.
Not really. When you have a bunch of overly-elaborate lightsaber fights just to have them, it diminishes the very emotional depth you suggest is lacking. You're suggesting that these are separate points, but they're not. There's also the simple fact that the "shit's getting real!" aspect is undermined, too.

I also didn't find the Mail/Opress/Sidious fight all that emotionally interesting. Partially because the whole plot was intensely stupid. It was entertaining, but not gripping in an emotional or thematically resonant way.
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Why didn't she just use carbon monoxide?
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Daily reminder that it's all over now. Your waifus are all dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyiYl7h2Q70
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Which Star Wars villain did the most literally nothing wrong?
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>>81440015
The real reason is that Lucas did never care about subtlety at all. For him, evil dark siders have to look like monsters with yellow eyes and burned flesh because a normal looking person can't possibly be evil. Dooku didn't get this treatment because he wasn't really evil in the movies.
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>>81440015
It's just a less-than-subtle visual metaphor/cue. You can reconcile inconsistencies with ideas like Palpatine and Dooku being able to control how their corruption showed, but I don't see the point in hunting down consistency with it anyway.
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>>81440392
Jar Jar, he never got comeuppance for allowing Palps to become Senator.
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>>81440421
It was more likley that Christopher Lee was a selling point and putting him in makeup would fuck the image too much. Or Lee didn't give enough shits about the movies to bother putting in contacts.
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>it's going to be Luke vs. Vader

D-does Luke have a chance?
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>>81440383
Hera is alive.
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>>81440451
>Luke vs Vader

That's lame. I would've preferred a Rey vs Kylo showdown to see which one of the new leads is more popular.
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>>81440383
There will be another. They have a one per season trend to uphold.
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>>81440514
>I would've preferred a Rey vs Kylo showdown to see which one of the new leads is more popular.
This desu
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>>81440421
>>81440422
It's funny that many fans expect Kylo to have "Sith eyes" in episode VIII. Did they completely miss the point of his "normal" appearance?
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Mark Hamill 'favorites' more tweets than any man I've ever seen. What an oddly nice guy.
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>>81439071
Because my intricate knowledge of all this lore has to be validated otherwise I have to accept that my life has been a waste.
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>>81437756
>Yes, you are. I wish I could dream.

What would you do instead?
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>>81439651
Guess she should be called Severed sister
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>>81440514
They're both shit.

This is finally the year of the Luke.
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>>81439071
Because in the book version of TFA it says that he is old as fuck, he knew Vader was Anakin, he knew who Palpatine was and he has been around for ages and has had a bunch of apprentices, but Ben is the first one who started out as a Jedi.
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>>81440612
Kylo's a decent character.
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>>81440612
Rey is okay, Kylo is great. Also, Han was always better than Luke.
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Why is Maul best boy? And will him meet Kenobi in S3?
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>>81439521
Man in the off occasion when Rodians are depicted as cute they're just adorable
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>>81440709
>Also, Han was always better than Luke.

Anyone who prefers Han is a complete pleb desu.
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>>81440709

How so? All Han ever did was be comic relief for most of the films. People only seem to like him because of the misconception that he's a "badass" to project onto.
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>>81440792
Maul is best boy because he's always up for fun.
Hopefully Kenobi can put Maul out of his misery, he's had a hard life
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>>81439834
IMAGINE being Anakin in that scene...
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I hope Cad Bane is the primary villain of Rebels season 3 because we know the bounty hunters are going to appear in Rouge One and Cad Bane is making his live action debut as well.
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>>81440678
Zuko/Loki ripoff
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>>81440860
Kenobi is an even bigger jobber than Maul, son
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>>81440015
>Why didn't Dooku really get yellow eyes compared to the other main Sith lords?
He did a few times in TCW, usually when he's zapping people. We just never saw very good close ups of it.
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>>81440917
This desu
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>>81440580
Mark is based.
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>>81440902
All of them play off of pretty common themes. I highly doubt Zuko was running through their minds when writing.

Are you joking? Can't tell.
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>>81441013
Nope, he just felt cliche. I've seen the "villain with daddy issues who can be easily woobified by the fandom and absolved of all responsibility" trope enough times that I'm sick of it.
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>>81441036
I read this as Sabine then and got excited. Fucking useless character
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>>81440850
He's a well-executed application of the cynic-with-a-heart-of-gold archetype. He has a lot of great dialogue. The scene where he saves Luke's ass and the scene before getting frozen are classic and endearing. He works well in the story and Ford does a great job with him.
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>>81441068
You need a self insert for the 12 year old girls anon
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>>81441084
>>81441068
Meant to reply to >>81441057 but it auto updated the thread.
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>>81441068
There's nothing particularly fantastic about him though other than maybe being the original "le funny quip" character. It's like the equivalent of preferring Tony over Cap.
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>>81440979
Kenobi jobbing will never not be funny.
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>>81441057
Don't worry, Maul will kill her in front of Ezra for maximum poetry and to compare his reaction to that of a true Jedi.
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>>81441044
But unlike with Zuko we have first-hand experience with the legacy Kylo finds daunting, which makes his struggle with finding his place in it feel approachable. He also works well as a subversion of expectation: Kylo has to deal with the baggage of his family's imposing accomplishments the same way the sequels itself have to deal with the baggage of being 'STAR WARS'. His story can be traced to all kinds of drama and literature, but I think TFA does a good job with it. It's the one thing I think its story does fairly well. Adam Driver did a good job.
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>>81440576
So he's like a Dooku? That's pretty interesting.
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>>81440576
They obviously missed the point that Kylo isn't a goddamn Sith, so there's no reason for him to get the Sith Eyes
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>>81441205
>muh super deep character dindu nuffin wrong

Your insistence only makes me hate him more, anon.
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>>81441229
I don't think he's dipping as deep into the dark side as he'd like to get the eyes.

Hey lore people, the Jedi strive for the Balance of the Light Side - christian theme, you have to fight to do good and slip up to be evil - yet Kylo's "tempted" by the Light reaching out to him. Is it the Force trying to fix things halphazardly while also moving Rey and Finn into the game?
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>>81441126
But I just gave you two examples (three, if you count my reference to Ford's performance) of why he's a good character. It's not just his quips. It's the way his quips and attitude serve the story, acting as a great surrogate for the audience's natural skepticism. The way he opens himself up to a higher cause (the original) and to another person (Empire) feel rewarding for this reason. And he's funny. What more do you want?
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>>81441289
None of that makes him better than Luke though, he just caters to your preference and need for quips.
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>>81441258
I never called him super deep or suggested his moral compass was perfect, you twat. I just gave you a basic and easily gathered thematic analysis.
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>>81441300
I never suggested he was better than Luke. I'm not that guy. I just think you were selling Han short.

I never said I "needed quips" either.
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>>81441288
Force-users generally dip between the light and the dark. Just as you can slip up to be evil, you can slip up to be good as well. It's only when the force-users reaches the absolute of either side that they're not tempted as much anymore.
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>>81440792

Because he looks scary but fails constantly. And in Rebels he sounds like Frasier Crane.
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So does the blind Jedi get to bang the alien?
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>>81441332
Would've helped if you'd specified in your first comment that you're not the anon who said Han was better than Luke because that's what I assumed you were implying the whole time.
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Gentlemen, how do we fix Sabine?
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>>81441386
you just asked for 20 posts of "kill her"
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>>81441400
That's what retards say about everything.
>kill Kanan
>kill Ahsoka
>kill Ezra
>kill Hera
>kill Zeb
>kill fucking everybody except my evil black and red imperial husbandos/waifus
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>>81441386
Give her a something she wants. Thus far she's clearly very proficient believes in the rebellion, has some mando backstory drama, and the shit with her friend, but she doesn't seem to have any drive. She's not a bad character, just a shallow one
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>>81441386
Remove her from the series.
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>>81441386
We give her a dick.
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>>81441428
Ahsoka really does (did, depending on your interpretation) need to die, though.
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>>81441386
According to the interviews, she's getting equal screen time to Ezra in the next season, which implies both Mango involvement and/or that she's getting development so that the old Sheev Cleave will be more impacting.
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>>81441386
teach her how to fight by levitating chainsaws, and give her a hot wife
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>>81441455
They are gonna poetry the Ahsoka Vader scene with Ezra and Sabine aren't they
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>>81441386
Make her leave Phoenix Squadron and join a rebel cell that lets her fulfill her homicidal tendencies.
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>>81441430
See this is what I mean.
Kanan is a badass cowboy jedi with a troubled past that we know via the comic series and hes now forced into this Rahm Kota father figure role for Ezra.
Ezra is an abandoned Aladdin orphan who desperately needs a family to keep his latent force powers from heading in the wrong direction.
Hera is an ace pilot and descendant of freedom fighters and lover of Kanan.
Zeb is the wandering Jew working to prevent the genocide of other peoples as it happened with his own and has a planet Israel waiting for him
Chopper might be a maniacally annoying psychopathic fifth column "comedic" relief, but at the end of the day he's a crotchety old war hero like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino
Sabine meanwhile just went to the academy with her bff, likes pretty colors and explosions, and also wears Mando armor. What is the point of her character other than to sell toys?
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>>81441493
I'm imagining more Kenobi/Satine related clay work, only Ezra will flip out instead.
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>>81441449
ebinnnnnnnnn

>>81441439
>>81441456
>give her a dick
>give her a hot wife
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>>81436153
Except crystal colors don't match your personality, so yes, it's still retarded.
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>>81441518
>Zeb is the wandering Jew working to prevent the genocide of other peoples as it happened with his own and has a planet Israel waiting for him.
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>>81433177
Maul starts secretly meeting Ezra, to train him. Ezra resists, but can't help but to take his advice.

It turns out Sabine met Maul as a child, and looks up to him as a hero. She discovered her love of painting armor from when Maul made all of Visla clan repaint their armor for him.

Maul and Hondo meet. Hondo doesn't recognize or remember Maul, infuriating him.
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>>81441574
I'm not sure whether to treat him as a holocaust survivor or a Judean Sicarius
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>>81441557
>ebinnnnnnnnn
I don't say that because I dislike her. I say that because it's what both her character and Vader's needed. It wouldn't make sense for her character arc if she just fucked off and disappeared forever, especially not after turning up again in Rebels.
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How do you think they will change the looks of the characters for season 3? Will Ezra have a Stubble
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>>81433177
Maul goes to reclaim his lordship over Mandalore with Sabine.
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>>81437339
Because in the aftermath of all of that, the only ones left standing to build ships were the same megacorporations that had produced ships for both sides. All they did when Palpatine tossed up a fat military contract was dust off the old design archives, make everything BIGGER, and started dropping keels at Sluis Van and Eriadu as fast as they could machine parts and tools.
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>>81441518
Over the years I've come to trust Filoni with the long game concerning character development. I'm sure something is coming, I just wish it was a bit sooner...

But yeah, I don 't think the character is unsalvagable by any means, she just needs a more vivid want and need. Even if it was just, the art of explosions, if they doubled down on that. It'd be a bit weird and shallow compared to everyone else, but it'd be something
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>>81441518
Originally, she was the one with trust issues that wanted to do good, but was worried about the shady nature of their cell, and of Fulcrum's hidden identity and possible agenda.
That kind of died out later on when Ashoka came in the open.
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>>81432352

>We have no idea what the saber did precisely.

Unless you pause and brighten the video.
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>>81441623
I've heard that exact same argument a million times before and it boggles the mind that people simply cannot fathom a decent scenario in which she survives. They NEED her to die, despite the creators evidently having enough talent to write any variety conclusion to her character they see fit. If she dies, she dies, but without a body, I see no reason she could not appear (though not necessarily should not) appear in a later season of Rebels or in post ROTJ media.

>>81441652
>>81441672
My thoughts exactly.
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>>81440451
I didn't even notice Luke wasn't on the 2015 bracket at all.
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>>81441678
Just vaporize my eyes up.
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>>81441729
It's not that there aren't scenarios where she could survive. There are. But it would be suboptimal storytelling.
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>>81441826
Maybe to your opinionfleet Admiral, but not this Story Group.
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C U T E
U
T
E

and sadly dead...screw you Filoni
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Could it be that Filoni is a madman?
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I think whatever happened to Ahsoka is not as clear cut as "alive or dead".

Y/N?
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>>81441982
D E A D
E
A
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>>81442028
Filoni already said that, so yes.
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>>81441386
We need to break her before we can fix her.
Let her have her own adventure, a proper character building one, that tells us about her.
Who she was, what she was before and what she wants to achieve now.
Let us see her perspective on the whole Mandalorian war past stuff.
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>>81440709
>Also, Han was always better than Luke
>implying

Also Han still got rekt this year by Luke despite having a leg up with the sympathy vote. Luke is finally getting the appreciation he deserves.
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>>81442034
Why do you have to taunt us SS waifufags anon? Haven't we suffered enough under the tyranny of Lord Filoni? Why kick an anon when he is already down?
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>>81437408
Honestly if the Mon Cals were such brilliant star ship designers how come we never saw them being contracted by the Old Republic Navy? It would have been cool to see various ship designs from some of the major senator worlds.
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>>81442202
If it makes you feel better, none of the OC characters created on the show matter in the slightest to actual canon! :D
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>>81442202
Sorry, anon. My waifu is still alive but I fear Lord Filoni too.
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>>81442283
Ezra is going to be Snoke, y-you'll see!-! YOU'LL SEE
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>>81442283
Except Ahsoka, who actually gets referenced in the latest canon novelization of ROTJ. Anakin gives her a passing thought of regret before he dies.
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>>81433256

I like that idea too, but with the addendum that Ezra meet up with maul after another mission goes awry and separates him from the crew of the Ghost, or maybe even Maul spirits him away without them knowing
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>>81442283
(You)
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>>81442367
>who actually gets referenced in the latest canon novelization of ROTJ

Literally means nothing to normies.
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>>81442283
Oh look it's THIS anon again
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>>81442367
Does he give a passing thought to Padme or Obi Wan as he's dying too? Cuz if not, that's kind of bullshit.
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>>81442428
You think he's mad because we made fun of his donut steel Mando killing the new characters?
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>>81442420
they why post "matter in the slightest to actual canon"? Why not just say movies unless you're a closet wookieepedophile?
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>>81442459
Oh wait it's THAT GUY? HAHAHAHHA You're talking about that Polish deviantart faggot who posts badly drawn guro of the rebels cast?
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>>81442470
Because the vast majority of SW fans only know of the films and are unaware of side material.
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Would Charles Dance be good as a FO officer?
I hate how they're all so young and Charles is basicly modern Peter Cushing
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>>81442496
No way! My wife's son loves his art :^)
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>>81442454
Yeah he does, he remembers everybody that made an impression on him basically, I think he mentions Mace Windu too, I'll post the excerpt when I get back from uni in a couple hours.
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>>81442496
I don't know if it's him but the idiocy is a big clue
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>>81442428
>>81442459
>>81442496
What? I have no idea what you're talking about, I only started visiting these threads two days ago. Just felt like leaving a "guaranteed replies" post.
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We are talking about the artist who made pic related
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>>81442532
Thanks, that'd be neat.
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>>81442608
I found a pic of the guy who made this shit.
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>>81442496
>>81442560
Someone post the edits.
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>>81442608
You forgot to mention that his entire gallery is full of this kind of stuff, dude didn't even spare my husbando
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>>81442608
Why would this artist use Boba Fett to convey this message when he's such a shitty non-character?
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Will Pablo allow it?
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>>81442723
To show that everyone has the potential to be a jobber?
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So since Rey is the only surviving female force user, will Luke fuck her on the island to make new force users?
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>>81442784
anyone can be a force user
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>>81442784
Luke is pure and Leia was the one who made all the moves on him, if anything Rey will fuck Luke to continue the species.
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>>81442784
That's not how it works
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https://kat.cr/star-wars-episode-vii-the-force-awakens-2015-bonus-disc-1080p-bluray-remux-avc-dd5-1-rarbg-t12344048.html
Pls someone MEGA this.
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What is left for Maul at this point? What is his motivation?

Does he still want revenge on Kenobi?
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>>81443047
He wants a legacy and revenge on Sheev. Getting that holocron? That was him trying to get something Sheev failed to do.
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>>81442784
the reason it's called the force awakens is because something swept over the galaxy and turned a bunch of barely force sensitive people into force savants.
even Mr Snrub is concerned by it, because an awakening was not part of the plan.
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>>81442519
He could definitely pull it off.
Sure looks like someone who could be an imperial officer.
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>>81443209
yeah, that's why I think Rey isn't a Skywalker, just s random.
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Did they ever confirm what species the Fifth Brother is?
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>>81443209
Imagine if this is how things turn out to be.
We could big Darkside v Lightside battles just like in one of the concept arts.
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>>81443345
torelian jango jumper
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RIP Team Rocket

I loved you SS
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>>81443368
That's 8th

>>81443345
Nah, see pic related, there's no species behind him (yet)
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>>81443393
> they'll never form a bond over their mutual experiences of rebel hunting and fear of Vader

My sweet summer children, you were never given chance to grow as individuals beyond attack dogs
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>>81443209
I like the way Snrub thinks
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What was the point of introducing a new Inquisitor if they were just going to kill him in the same episode?
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>>81443345
>>81443435
It is possible hes just a big human guy who looks fucked up cause reasons
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>>81442891
Why not just torrent it yourself?
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>>81443590
What's thw point of making a new death star if they are going to destroy it in the same movie? Welcome to Star Wars.
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>>81442891
Just stream it.
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>>81443637
not him but cmon anon, that's not the same situation here
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>>81443637
That was actually a legit problem with Return of the Jedi though. Not only does them making a new Death Star open a lot of questions, it was also redundant.
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>>81438545

> no sense of adventure
ayy there's more than "lets go to the bar and then to "

> no tension
bullshit. that final battle with Duel of the Fates playing had fantastic tension to it. the podrace was fun too

> The villain is a generic bad guy with no lines and no personality
literally exactly what Sheev wanted from Darth Maul in the first place - get in there and fuck shit up, no distractions

> isn't even a main character you could root for
A movie doesn't need a single main character you retard

> The dialogue in TPM is just as atrocious as in AOTC and ROTS
See, the thing is that I'm willing to forgive a literal child for having bad lines, as opposed to creepy grownup Anakin - which is where most of the cancer actually was

> so many plot holes that even the most die hard SW fan can't suspend their disbelief when watching Phantom Menace
Firstly I've met many SW fans who would disagree, and secondly I can't off the top of my head think of any plot holes. Name some, nigger
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>>81443209
I wonder if Finn and Poe are also force sensitive? Because even before Finn decided to run away it looked as if Kylo Ren sensed Finn as he walked by him? I don't even think Kylo saw that Finn didn't shoot.

Poe too could be force sensitive, maybe why he has such an insane edge in combat?
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>>81443637
What's the point of making a movie if it's going to end?
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>>81443466
>5B will never relentlessly tease SS over her crush on Ezra
>They will never play pranks on 8B together
>They will never enjoy movie night at Inky HQ with Grand Inky
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>>81443756
At least it was the final chapter and Lucas loves his poetry. Also, the new death star was a glorified bait for the rebellion fleet.
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>>81443849
What's the point of living if I'm going to die someday? Brb gonna kill myself.
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>>81435562
Rebels season 2 had plenty of good episodes.
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>>81443911
What's the point of typing a sente
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>>81442519
Yes yes fuck yes
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>>81441678
It's a new texture overlaying existing Kanan model. I seriously doubt they went to the bother of creating a dino-damage version.
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>>81443855
> they'll never learn to pool their strengths together
> they'll never help each other out in the thick of combat
> they'll face death together
> I just now realized they're Team Rocket with a Meowth in my pic
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Anyone got the model sheets of the Inkies? And have they released all model sheets for both CW and SWR? Would make sense to make an imgur for that or dust the booru of.
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>>81444003
>ywn fly into the sunset with your inkie friends
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>>81444003
They're Imperial Inquisitors working for a Sith Lord. They were never going to do that anyway. Any Inquisitor showing camaraderie or concern would be a sign of weakness and the others would tear that Inquisitor apart.
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>>81443722
Where?
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>>81444210
Anon, are you aware of the magic of greentexting?
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>>81444003
>To protect the Galaxy from devastation!
>To collect large crystals for our battle station!
>To support our Empire that we know and love!
>And destroy Rebel SCUM from the Star Destroyers above!
>Seventh Sister!
>Fifth Broth!
>Team Inky Spins off at the speed of light!
>Surrender now or prepare to fight!
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>>81442507

> that retard in my 5th grade class who though AotC was the best because of the romance story
> feminists who drool over TFA just because the main character's a woman
> oldfags who discount PT because new things are bad and praise TFA because it's the same exact thing
> fuckheads who still think it's "Dark Vader"
> casuals who think Luke is the deepest character Star Wars has to offer and see Darth Vader as a generic bad guy

> respecting the opinion of normies at all
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>>81444295
Thanks for that anon, I couldn't do the Rocket Theme since I only know it in my language.
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>>81444295
Bravo cAnon, this is gold
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>>81444295
>>81444415
>>81444396
>Looks like Team Inky is blasting off again!
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>>81438007
That wasn't the issue, especially since that's an old school interpretation you laid out. The issue was how it actually damaged Kanan and whether contact was even needed. Saber's can produce incredible amounts of heat such as Qui-Gon melting a security door. Lightsabers can melt durasteel beams, and with rather a lot of easy. This is in obvious evidence with Kanan given his face was burned over a wider area than the beam could possibly have encompassed even on a pass through tissue.

Now the question in play was whether the blade has to contact in order to transfer heat or is merely passing very close to a relatively frail organic target enough to cook the tissue? In the long run this doesn't actually matter, the damage was done, so it is more of an academic inquiry.

The problem is Star Wars isn't always consistent with minutiae like this across the franchise, and circumstances and context can alter the situation. And frankly they were never going to alter Kanan's model to show damage. A new burn texture? Sure. But they weren't going to bother with the time, effort, and cost to model Kanan with a part of his face missing, and not least of all because it's just gruesome.
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>>81444295

You forgot the last line!

What fun! HAHAHAHAHA, WHAT FUN!"
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>>81442734
I hope he does.
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>>81444501
The last line is just 8B popping up and laughing his arse off
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>>81444439
I dont know why but I really like those flying sabers
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>>81438545
Hello TFA
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I really want to see some cute inky-related drawings. Any draw anons here?
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>>81444501
Can we have a clip with sound for that line?
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>>81444439
haha those rapscallions are always fun they're all dead
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>>81444500
Underlying questions remain.

Kylo Ren's lightsaber seems to hurt Finn before the cross blade comes into context with his skin. But Finn could be merely panicking and even then Kylo's lightsaber is extra-strength and unstable, constantly spitting sparks.

The Inquisitor once held Kanan's lightsaber close to his face, tip first, and Kanan didn't melt. But it's possible Jedi lightsabers are more careful about their heat to avoid collateral damage, something the Sith wouldn't care about as long as that collateral isn't them. Or you can change the field strength along with changing the length of the blade.


Maul's lightsaber appears to work like regular ones, but it also appears to be cobbled together and may not be as stable in addition to the possibility that Sith let their lightsabers burn hotter and more brutal. The end result in the same in the movies, so no real appreciable difference. However increasing the heat makes sense when you need to burn down a door, such as Qui-Gon did.

At any rate lightsabers are in constant operation, they don't just fart out plasma gas and then contain it in blade form. They're constantly imitating energy. When you deactivate them the blade seems to retract, presumably because as it stops supplying plasma the blade gets smaller and smaller. It appears to extend and retract almost like a physical blade, but it's not. The problem is it's generating massive amounts of heat, enough to melt reinforced security doors (unless, again, the amount of heat can be changed via the controls, but we're still talking about a good deal of heat regardless). Containing that during extended operation would be, well, amazing. And highly unlikely. The excess heat generated HAS to go somewhere, so it surely isn't contained within the magnetic field.

The ultimate answer? It's just a show/movie/comic/book so we should really just relax.
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>>81444725
I could probably draw something if I had a full-body ref.

Restricted to mouse and keyboard though and drawing isn't my strong suit.

Eighth brother was so damn cute though.
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>>81444854

Maul's new lightsaber isn't cobbled together. It's a scavenged Inquisitor's lightsaber. He most likely killed an Inquisitor and took the lightsaber, then broke the circle part because he doesn't need any of that spinning nonsense.
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>>81444725
>>81444941
Are there Model sheets for all characters of CW and SWR? If yes, we could make an imgur folder for them, would make it easier for artists.
We could also host Hunger Games easier with a folder with icons.
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>>81442367
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>>81442608
>Zeb made it out alive.

Based
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>>81444988
I would sacrifice a puppy just to see Maul's first reaction upon seeing a spinsaber.
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>>81442367
You're kidding, right?
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>>81445067
Even he knows that Zeb is not to be harmed.
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>>81442693

The real pic is much much funnier.
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I want a cute picture of all 4 inkies lounging on a couch.

>SS reading a book and lying inbetween 8B and 5B resting her head on 8B's leg and her legs on 5B's lap.
>8B looking something up on his Holopad.
>5B muching on some popcorn clearly annoyed at SS for using him as a legrest.
>Grank Inky enjoying a space beer and smiling at the others.
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>>81445146
> the "nose hole" and "teeth" on the helmet to make the Punisher Mando look complete

gotta give him credit, he's going the extra mile.
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>>81444988
>i-it's not cobbled together, i-it's scavenged

No, he has parts of their sabers he's put together to make a functioning double bladed non-spin saber. That's cobbled together. It's not an Inquisitors saber with the ring conveniently broken off, it's too long and the ring that's left points UP. He built this shit apparently out of spare parts from people he's killed, so it's no less impressive, but it's still a kludge saber.
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>>81445146
Looks like a psychopath t.b.h
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>>81444500
Oh, he got blinded the same way that Rahm Kota got blinded if you weren't aware, like I said here. >>81438007

Kanan blocked the saber too close to his eyes, they make it very clear.
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post yfw when Anakin/Vader Force ghost appears in VIII.
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>>81445246
M8
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>>81445328
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>>81445369
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>>81445353
>shows how the blade was obviously rebuilt
You sure did show him, fella.
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>>81445353
the real question is
where did he find that piece of wood?
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>>81445397
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>>81445369
You spin in heaven now, my beautiful green little angel. With young boys you can have whenever you want...
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>>81445421
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>>81445328
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>>81445444
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>>81445408
I wanted to give him a superior show image instead of only using Maul's

>>81445420
Same where he found the food and water to survive
Maybe it's not wood but a non-humanoid statue arm.
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>>81445263
>like I said here
But that post says nothing about Kota, at all.

Feels like you're trying to salvage a point you never eve made by declaring it as very clear. It's a neat trick, but not as good as spinning your post.

Allow me to help you. Kanan raises his saber defensively but is still injured. It could be argued that Maul's blade never came into direct contact as Maul hadn't pushed Kanan's saber into his own face. No vertical burn to represent that, you see.

So this would cover the "lightsaber blades (or at least Maul's) emit intense heat" theory. Which is really the only academic part. Lightsaber blades can fuck you up without touching you if they get close enough.
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>>81445369
>Cobra Commander and Destro become attack helicopters.jpg
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>>81445517
>But that post says nothing about Kota, at all.
>Feels like you're trying to salvage a point you never eve made by declaring it as very clear. It's a neat trick, but not as good as spinning your post.
I explained it to you quite simply, I've seen Kota be brought up here before and I thought you guys had already heard it countless times...

Not going to bother reading the rest of your post since you have some issues, kid.
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>>81445539
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>>81445517
>That weird passive aggressive shit

You're weird, dude. You sound like you didn't remember something and are getting all butthurt. Chill the fuck out, weirdo.
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>>81445577
what kind of omonatopeia is "soisoisoi"?
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>>81445599
Protip: declaring someone passive aggressive while whining and hurling childish insults makes you look like a total knob. It isn't the "instant win to any argument" you seem to think it is.

So congrats.
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>>81445517
>But that post says nothing about Kota, at all.
He's specifically referring to the Kota scene as his example. It's literally the only thing he could be referencing, dummy.
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>>81445712
>>81445517
You have issues dude, how the fuck can you be such a dick over someone explaining something to you so simply? Holy fuck. Autism-meter is exploding here.
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>>81445552
Jesus, way to chicken out. You know you're anonymous, right? You can be wrong on minor or even major points without ever having to own up to it.
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>>81445776
>>81445712
You are a very sad individual.
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>>81445770
>can't handle the discussion
>better call the other guy autistic, that'll net me some internet cred for sure!

The state of these threads today is appalling.
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>>81445812
>discussion

That's what you call your attitude? Really?
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>>81445728
Well if you want to discuss what actually happened to Kanan we could actually focus on what they showed us, as opposed to dredging up old non-canon EU material.
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>>81445843
>>81445802
>>81445770
You're responding to a troll or someone with severe mental issues so you should just stop, guys. (Probably the latter)

>>81445849
Witwer said outright they were using things from TFU, this was one of them.
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>>81445328
This is literally the only thing on my episode VIII wish list. It would absolutely make the movie for me.

How do you guys think it should be handled?
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>>81445843
As opposed to what you're doing? This is 4chan, you take what you get here. Ad hominem abounds, but at least that post actually kept talking about the actual matter. You've merely resorted to complaining that you were treated badly. On 4chan.

You man, in fact, be too delicate for this place. I say that for your own sake.
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>>81445890
>Witwer said outright they were using things from TFU, this was one of them.
Unless he specifically noted HOW Kanan was damaged was used, and the team working out the actual scene was doing so, then the material they used from TFU was just "blinding". The discussion was about how lightsabers worked to damage, but has devolved into people spazzing out.
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>>81445920
The fuck kind of image is that. Is that food. By god.
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>>81445929
You think you're a hardass but being an asshole on here is easy as you're showing, but it's simply not necessary or required. It's clear you didn't remember Kota and are somehow embarrassed or something. You feel upset someone tried to educate you on Star Wars, whatever, deal with it. There's only ONE thing he could have been referencing that we've spoken about here quite a few times in the past when it comes to this and a lightsaber blinding you as our example was Kota.
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>>81445920
I think the seeds for it were planted already in VII.

When Kylo has his monologue with Vaders helmet he says something like ''Show me again, the power of Darkness.''

I clearly recall hearing ''again'' bit - which implies he experienced something that led him to believe he was in contact with Vader.
Probably some illusion or dream that Snoke conjured up.

The Art of TFA book has various concept arts for it.
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>>81446034
I think whats more amusing is that Kylo says the Light Side is constantly calling to him?

And to a side note, I'm not adept in Lightsaber forms but Ray from the movies, when fighting Kylo did a lot of thrust saber moves, almost identical to the Emperor, from the slight pause before thrusting in too
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I miss the George Lucas budget
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>>81445997
What the fuck did you just say, you little bitch?
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>>81446109
That's because she fought with a staff for quite some time.
You'd be surprised how often you thrust with such a weapon as a stick.
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>>81445997
As opposed to your darling response of "someone on 4chan was being mean to me so I'm not talking to that poopy head!"?

And then you resort "appeal to authority" by declaring someone else doesn't remember Kota, a non-related example, because the anon didn't care to talk about a non-related example. An example you threw out like people were talking about Kota all along instead of Kanan.

I realize their names are similar, maybe it's confusing you. Kota is the one with a T in it. Okay?

Kota =/= Kanan

They're both blind guys now is the extent of the comparison.
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>>81446170
>As opposed to your darling response of "someone on 4chan was being mean to me so I'm not talking to that poopy head!"?
Not him but that's actually a mature response, and like them, I won't read the rest of your post either. Stay mad!
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>>81446156
Relax, anon. He's just talking about Kota.
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>>81446109
>I think whats more amusing is that Kylo says the Light Side is constantly calling to him?

I don`t find anything amusing about it - it`s a clear set up for redemption.
Shame it`s so obvious two movies before the climax of the trilogy but oh well.

That said, I`m very worried where they`ll take him in VIII and IX - I think in the short-medium term he`ll be a lot more focused, properly menacing and Dark but eventually him killing Han will come & haunt him, leading to his redemption.

We already saw glimpses of that after the commited the patricide - he feels weak, shocked and confused. He thought doing what Vader did not do will only strengthen him.

Ultimately, Kylo is a good person. He has been deluded and is deluding himself in to thinking he has a chance of being what his ancestor was - if you end up begging Vaders ''corpse'' to empower you with his abilities, shit is not working for you.

I will not be surprised if in Episode MCMLXXV someone will be telling the tale of ''The Tragedy of Ben Solo the Decieved''.
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>>81446141
>that despeckle
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>>81446183
I think most people without actual social skills don't understand how important it is to disengage at time, and they have the internet so they even more confused as when people are sick of them and don't want to talk to them because of their behavior.

We want to talk about Star Wars, not entertain some asshole like this guy >>81445517
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We get some weird trolls in here. I guess when people are bored of posting, "Ahsoka is dead!" and "Rebels is baby shit for babies" they go totally off-topic meta. Declaring people as being not mature enough for 4chan is a good one, you have to admit.

At least the thread is in autosage. Hopefully people get this out of their system and we can actually discuss the show without namecalling.

Yeah right.
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>>81446141
As do I. Filoni is doing the best he can with what he's got, but god damn, it looks so inferior. And half the time characters are not animating dynamically, they just stand still talking in the middle of battle. It's bad.
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>>81446300
>Declaring people as being not mature enough for 4chan is a good one, you have to admit.
You really got burned, huh?
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>>81446237
We get it, you like samefag trolling about how mature you are on 4chan. You win absolutely nothing for trolling an autosaging thread, though. Sorry.
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>>81446300
When we start the new thread, could we make a compilation of model sheets released so far? I tried finding some for the inkies but so far I got a DIY- Imperial Probe Marionette. Pic related.
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>>81446348
That's not Kanan. YOu can tell because he's not typing

asdpi ahweopuih apsjdsadf22
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>>81446300
Why do you think behaving like an asshole here constantly is a good thing? Stop spreading the /b/ shit to here, what the fuck is wrong with you? 4chan only ever had a bad rap because of /b/, loli board and the furry board. Two of which are fucking dead and gone, why do you INSIST on making this a shit hole and think it's okay to behave however the fuck you want?

You don't know a thing about 4chan, fucko.
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>>81446411
>implying kanan wouldnt ask Ezra for help with typing
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>>81446380
There used to be a collection of Rebels concept art made around the end of season 1, especially when the last Recon showed off some of the elements for season 2 like the A-Wings and Pelta-Class.

It's probably not in the pastebin anymore, but I haven't checked for it. It's been so long and nobody has brought it up I doubt the collection has been maintained.
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>>81446341
Man, I miss the cinematic feel of it most of all.
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>>81446415
THIS, just because this play is a lot more lenient doesn't mean you should deliberately be an asshole, it says a lot about who you are if you engage in that shit willfully.
>>81446370
You prove my point
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>>81446449
Only if he was desperate. I can't see him trusting Ezra, Zeb, and especially not Chopper to accurately dictate. Imagine what Chopper would post instead.
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>>81446493
I'm so sorry someone called you out on your bad post, but pretending you have the high ground isn't going to fix things. It's over, anon. Let it go.
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>>81446476
The aggrivating thing is that someone used a low-res model sheet for the 8th brother as OP but no put a better one of him forth, or the Sister, or 5.

And I checked, there's not link for it in the pastbin. what a shame.
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>>81446493
There was a chance to continue the discussion with you acting like this superior type of poster you claim to be, but you threw that out when you abandoned the actual discussion, failed to ignore what was upsetting you, and shat up the thread in the process.

You come off like someone who got his feelings hurt (on 4chan of all places). You need a stronger mental filter for places like this if you wish to discuss, or you'll fall victim to the first troll. Meta posting about it isn't helping.

We need to do better next thread.
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>>81442367
Seems like the type of thing he might do once he'd been turned good again.
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I like to think this >>81438007 was Pablo's foray into 4chan to pass on his wisdom but he tripped over Kota, fell victim to off-topic posting, and is probably gripping his coffee mug so tightly right now that his knuckles are white and the porcelain is starting to shatterpoint.
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>>81446655
>triple dubs
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>>81446817
I screencapped the post and will pass his wisdom on. Maybe one day we'll be worthy of him.
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>>81446817
He thought he was the Obi-Wan, that he had the high ground. Turns out he was the Anakin.

>>81446880
Tell him to flee before he becomes our Vader.
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>>81446944
He could just go into the new Thread and be a bro and dump some model sheets
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Guys, I miss Savage.
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>>81438007
If I recall the original lightsabers had to be attached to a portable battery box as the effort of maintaining the constantly-on sword energy was massive.

Then someone figured out that they could get away with making them just normal weightless beams of light until the beam is interrupted, where a massive amount of energy is pumped into the sword and it becomes 'real' for cutting purposes.

tl;dr they're just normal light beams until they touch something, then they get massive amounts of energy for cutting.
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>>81440269

He's not saying that they have Lightsaber fights just to have them, though that by now is a prerequisite, in fact that's exact;y what he's arguing against. The "Shit's getting real" aspect has been more or less gone since 1999, audiences know we're going to get a lightsaber duel at some point in the movie, they're quite literally the iconic weapon of the franchise.

and

>opinions

I know a lot of people were rubbed the wrong way by Maul coming back, but look at that duel from the lens of Palpatine being an evil fucker. He doesn't need to duel them at all, if he wanted them dead, he could just go full-on Tetsuo mode and explode them from the inside out. The whole point was to show how easily Sheev outclassed Maul in every aspect of being a Sith, not just in the use of the force.
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>>81447112
It reminds me a bit of the end of the Matrix. The final message Neo gave to the machines was 'now you're gonna see some serious shit.'
Then the sequels rolled around and it was just more of the same old kung fu. Sure it was impressive but hardly the game-changer we were expecting.
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>>81447076
He's a dumb brute, but he means well.
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>>81435285
>He doesn't understand Star Wars as much as George either.
I love how autistic shitlords say this. Like they created the franchise.
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>>81447699
Tell that to Black sun
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