Batman v Superman

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I like how superman was the "ultimate good".

>"If god is all powerful he can't possibly be all good, and if he's not all powerful he
can't possibly be god"

Not only did superman dying mean he was "all good" he truly became a mortal, a human

The costuming and the score.

The visuals were also, as in any Snyder movie, impressive.

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There's some good religious imagery there too, painting superman to be a messiah type, which worked.

And some Moby dick and Excalibur references too

>>81372231
The warehouse scene, Alfred and Wonder Woman.

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It was really interesting how Zod killed superman the same way he killed Jor el

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And to close up, Diana and Clarks team up was great

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the Knightmare sequence being a Speedforce/Time Travel induced vision was interesting and it got me and my friends pretty hyped
to bad everyone thinks this Flash will be shit and no one else liked it

>>81372231
-Batman Warehouse fight scene (also "I'm a friend of your son")
-Batman hanging from the ceiling
-Wonder Woman rolling her eyes at Lex's speech
-Wonder Woman smirking during her fight with Doomsday
-Bruce and Alfred's interactions
-Lex's speech about god not hearing his prays when his father beat him
-Bruce and Diana talking about Alexander the Great's knife

>>81372231
Batman's borderline panic when he realizes kryptonite wears off.

>>81372231
Batfleck was pretty awesome. And Wondys theme.

I was JUST about to post this exact thread to make me feel better

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>>81372231
>This>>81372351
>Superman's death and funeral
>flash time travel shit
>ceiling Batman
>Batman
>Alfred
>Trinity battle
>Lex Luthor on top the tower
The BvS battle was disappointing

Alfred.
The Cyborg scene
Time shenanigans starting already.
More Alfred scenes.
Batman mounting Martha Kent to "protect" her.

>>81372351
>I like how superman was the "ultimate good".
As much as I want this to believe this, isn't he the one who said
>No one stays good in this earth
after stating he'll have to kill batman on luthor's request?

Jeremy Irons and Battfleck overall were the highlight of the movie

I actually liked Eisenberg's Luthor a lot even if he was lacking the charisma of his counterpart. That scene with him making him ultimatum to Supes on the roof of his tower was fucking fantastic.

I loved how the Knightmare sequence and Flash's message were shown even though they really needed to be contextualized better within the main narrative of the movie

Soundtrack was fucking great

Funeral scene was great, even though the ending suffered a bit from prolonged fatigue.

Luthor's warning in the prison at the end

Gal Gadot's wardrobe department. God DAMN.

>>81375530
>after stating he'll have to kill batman on luthor's request?

He was referring to his public image.

The entire movie, Supes' character revolves around the struggle he faces trying to convince the rest of the world through his actions. He has the intention to do what's right and to serve the best good for humanity, and he has trouble figuring out how to convince everyone else of it too.

I saw it a friend and during the Doomsday fight when WW shows up
When they finally reveal her and her theme plays on
The audience fucking cheered and were hype as fuck

Was so glad to see casual hype/love for WW

>>81372351
>superman dying

I like how this disproved Batman's earlier comment towards the seemingly invulnerable Superman.

"You're not brave, men are brave."

Said less than an hour before Superman sacrificed himself.

>>81375692
>The audience fucking cheered and were hype as fuck

That part got cheers from my audience as well.

Along with the part where Supes' opens his eyes after regenerating from tanking a nuke.

When it ended
Because I liked it
And I would be able to watch it again

>>81375603
im pretty sure he referred to his own personal goodness(?) by bending to luthor's will
besides, there was nothing public about what was going on there and his public image was already pretty fucked up

>>81372496
Holy shit didn't realise that. Pottery

>>81375743

I'm probably going to go see it again tomorrow afternoon on my own.

Only thing that makes me second guess that decision is the fact that it's two and a half fucking hours long when it really could've been cut down by about 10-15 minutes at least.

I liked almost all of it, I liked the tone being serious because while I like the Marvel movies I tire very easily of Disney's overbearing "family movie" tone

It's just a shame that it takes so long to pick up with any action and that it kinda crammed some not needed scenes into it, probably causing other more important scenes to be shorter than they should have, otherwise I think it could have had the potential to be 10 10

>>81372231

I liked a lot more of the movie than disliked it. Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, Superman's death, the Apocalypse dream were all good parts.

>>81375796
If anything it should be longer. Like 12 hours or so.

>>81375780
>besides, there was nothing public about what was going on there and his public image was already pretty fucked up

"Superman fights Batman" I think would make the news rounds pretty fast.

Either Supes is forced to kill Batman and Superman's public image is forever discredited, or he dies in the process. Either way, Luthor wins. He just didn't count on Batman's opinion of Supes being turned around in any way.

>>81375814

I think that's why so many people are pissed off at it.

It could've been a much better movie, and while I liked what we got, it desperately needed better editing.

-Bruce Wayne introduction.
-Alfred being always right
-Superman recoverying mid fight. Holy fuck that was fucking awesome.

>>81372231
Knightmare sequence was the best part of the movie
I want to see Superman (the real one) stuck in the Knightmare

What I liked:

>Flash cameo. If you didn't like this, how can you say you love comics? It was unexpected.
>Batman using every gadget at his disposal during his fights. The warehouse scene is one of the greatest comic book fights caught on film ever. Also seeing him set traps for Supes is pretty much straight out of the books.
>Superman saving people. This was actually ruined, much like every other good scene, in the trailers. I expected a much longer montage of Supes saving people but, nope, we get exactly what we've been seeing in trailers for 2 years.
>Actual Green Kryptonite. I'm happy they didn't dodge this with some other scientific bullshit. I was pretty upset at how it was handled in Man of Steel with Krypton's "bad atmosphere." The radiation and use of kryptonite was done well enough.
>Alfred.
>Everything about Ben Affleck's Batman.


I've defended MoS for years but this movie was a let down. Especially after believing Snyder's bullshit that Superman would win in the end of the fight. I've read fan ideas that were better than this shit. What a let down. Here's to hoping Affleck doesn't quit. At least something good can come from this mess.

I also don't understand how you can make a Lex Luthor somehow worse than one who is a Real Estate scam artist.

>>81375692
Again, her entrance was arranged to make the audience feel the need to cheer even if they didn't knew who the character was
It's not a coincidence that almost every screening everywhere got the same reaction

>>81375881
>Superman recoverying mid fight. Holy fuck that was fucking awesome.

That honestly got the biggest laughs out of the audience I saw the movie with.

There was also

>Batman's "....oh shit." moment against Doomsday
>"I'm a friend of your son's"

>>81375970
>I also don't understand how you can make a Lex Luthor somehow worse than one who is a Real Estate scam artist.

An arms dealer with a god complex? I dunno that sounds a lot like Luthor to me.

>>81375835
They fought in the conveniently abandoned port
no one had any idea they were fighting

>>81376036

>God complex

In the form of a 5 foot tall, whiny voiced mogul. Right. I've seen it all, but defending Eisenberg's Luthor takes the 40 cakes for me.

>>81372231

Batfleck, WW showing up, the audience scene. And so others.

The movie was fun, Rotten Tomatoes are a bunch of faggots.

>>81375796

It was weird, I never felt it was that long, but yeah.

All the Superman is Jesus stuff. I eat that up with a soup spoon, it was all grand.

Like, the Dia de los Muertos scene, his death with shots pulled straight from classical Christian paintings, the Sistine Chapel pose after he got nuked, all the stuff of him saving people (especially the Katrina shot), like it was unsubtle as fuck but I still loved it.

>>81372231
The fact it shows that only Marvel should be the only ones making Cape films. Fuck DC, Marvel baby.

>>81376135
>It was weird, I never felt it was that long, but yeah.

There were a few scenes that I felt dragged way too long for no reason other than to show off the soundtrack. And the ending took a long time too, as much as I loved the funeral scenes.

>>81375972


Well Yeah? it was obviously arranged, is like you're implying they were improvising it. And it did the job.

>>81376208

The hurricane scene is arguably one of the best pieces of Superman imagery ever on screen.

>>81372231
It ingrains an appreciation for DC animated stuff, even the Damian-heavy newer shit.

>>81376228

>The funeral

Oh yeah, I get you now.

>There were a few scenes that I felt dragged way too long for no reason other than to show off the soundtrack.

In retrospective, I think I know which scenes you're talking about, I have to agree, then.

>>81376217
>>81376279
good meme

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>>81376390
>tfw hated every Marvel cartoon before and since EMH
>tfw loved every DC cartoon since TAS days
>tfw love even the shitty Marvel movies like Thor
>tfw hate direction DC movies are going after not-bad Nolanbat

>>81372231

Batman and Superman fighting. Especially when Batman was about to stab the shit out of Superman. Felt so great. Overall it was a fun film, I liked it. Cant wait to see more of Affleck as Batman. It felt different to Bales Bat, which was good.
The Nolan trilogy is great, but its good to get something fresh too.

when it ended

>>81376536

Batman's one fight with henchman was better than all 3 of Nolan's films.

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Lex Luthor.
And the greatest love story in DC comics.

>>81376577

Yeah the fighting was better, but the Saga of Nolan, he did something that was great. It was cool to have Batman fight bad guys that were grounded. Heath is probably the reason I like the Nolan trilogy so much tho.

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>>81372231

Can Snyder outdo himself after the Wayne murder montage?

Bad movie.

>>81372231

I liked when it stopped being about Batman vs Superman, and started being Dawn of Justice. As retarded as the "lol our moms are both named martha" scene was, everything after it was the movie I wanted to see. Wonder Woman and her teaming up with Bats and Supes was the best part, even if Doomsday was just a shitty Cave Troll from LotR.

I'm skeptical of the Justice League movie, but I have hope that Wonder Woman will at least be good.

>>81376695
They made Joe Chill a black guy? Really?

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>>81372423
That hole

>>81376243
the previous post implies the character itself made everyone hyped regardless of arrangement

>>81376695
The worst version of this scene so far.

>>81372231
There were precisely two good things about this film:

Batfleck.

Batfleck hitting Superman with a sink.

That's it. The supercut of this film would just be Batman's solo scenes, and then that one moment where he wallops Superman with a piece of bathroom.

I enjoyed a lot of the film but the one thing I really loved was the Knightmare scene. It probably should have had some lead in but I loved Batman's outfit and all hell breaking loose as the parademons flew in. I'd watch a movie of just that.

I don't think it's a great film but it really got me excited for more DC films.

>>81376737
Are you by any chance retarded?

>>81372423
>good

Obvious doesn't necessarily equal good.

>>81376873
Nor does it equal bad.

>>81376695

Speaking about the Wayne death scene, the kid who played Bruce looked like a genderbent kid version of Drew Barrymore.

>>81376826


>her entrance was arranged to make the audience feel the need to cheer even if they didn't knew who the character was

Are you sure? Doesn't seem like.

>>81376737
He's hispanic.

>>81375566

I liked Lex somewhat. Problem for me is that he is actually insane, as opposed to just an amoral and arrogant.

>>81372496
Holy shit, I didn't notice.

Nice.

>>81372231
The money I saved from not going to see it.

The entire movie you marveldrones

It was a good movie

>>81376525

nice meme!

>>81377152
What if they use that kid to make Damian?

>>81377729

This

>>81376208
But DC doesn't make the movies. It's Warner Bros.

;_;

>>81376577
I think that warehouse fight was the best action sequence in any comic book movie.

>guy shoots Batman point blank in the head multiple times and he just shrugs it off
>I believe you

Anyone making any webms yet of the camrip? It's a pretty decent rip.

>>81376695
>>81376837
There's been a lot of hate for this version of the Wayne murder, particularly when Thomas throws a punch at Chill rather than stand defensively in front of his family. The thing you need to remember about this version though is that it's one of Bruce's dream sequences and it represents how out of control his violence as Batman has gotten lately, he's become so aggressive that even his most important memories have been corrupted by it. The real blunder was putting this scene at the start of the movie before we get to see Batman's escalating violence.

>>81377996
That armor was meant to withstand Superman Anon.

>>81378208
That was his normal cowl.

>>81372351
>A real hero
>A real human bean

>>81378055
>It's a pretty decent rip.

Not the one I found. It was from a 3D showing so it was blurry as shit.

>>81378233

Which makes it even better. This Batman can take bullets to the head and still be an acrobat at the same time.

I know people want WB to fail, but this Batman is the best one ever on screen besides the killing he does.

>>81378233
Was it? Huh, I don't remember that well, didn't he have like 10 minutes to find Martha and save her? Where did he find time to go back to the Batcave for a costume change?

>>81372231
The part about the Jar of Piss:

>Senator looks at piss
>Slow close-up shot of piss
>Senator looks at invalid
>Senator looks at piss
>Slow closer-up shot of piss
>Senator looks at supes
>Invalid looks at supes
>Senator looks at piss
>Invalid looks at senator
>Slow closest-up shot of piss
>Senator Looks at invalid again
>Invalid looks at senator
>Kablosion
>Superman looks at entrails on the wall like he just stepped on dogshit
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyZDZCGQJf8

>>81378350
>I know people want WB to fail, but this Batman is the best one ever on screen besides the killing he does.
The general consensus, even from people who hated the movie like me, was that he was great, discounting the killing. He was one of the few legitimately good things about it.

>>81378450

He took the armor offf, you idiot. The headpiece was broken from his fight with Superman anyways.

>>81378450
The armor suit is just armor plates that go over his normal suit. He probably just took them off and changed cowls.

>>81372231
Shitposting about it.

>>81372231

>That it ended.

But seriously, I loved every single conversation between Superman and Batman.

>>81378509
>>81378522
>Going into battle against unknown odds
>Better leave this nigh-indestructible armor behind

>>81372231
-Bruce trying to save people during the super powered beatdown in Metropolis

-Every scene with Batman , in particular his introduction in costume. Fucking scary as hell, the way Batman ought to be

-Alfred and his banter back and forth with Batfleck

-Wonder Woman rolling her eyes when Lex talks about Zeus.

-Montage of Superman saving people

-Courtroom /piss in a jar scene

-"i'm a friend of your son's"

-Batfleck's speech about what his father taught him as he beats the shit out of supes

-Wondy showing up in costume

-The Trinity fighting Doomsday

-Doomsday knocks Wondy down, she smiles before getting back up

>>81378453
>Luthor you're under arrest, forensics found your urine all over the crime scene!
>I did not think this all the way through.

>>81378656
The armor was torn up from his fight with Superman and he was also only fighting one guy in it and it was more of a brawl. Going up against a couple dozen guys with guns means he needs to be mobile, the armor would have just slowed him down.

>>81378656

The suit's pretty obviously bulletproof already and he needed to be able to be more mobile to take on mercs with guns (which he knows Lex is employing already).

Now it might've been a good idea for him to double back and grab it again when Doomsday showed up though.

>>81375796
It feels a lot shorter the second time

>>81378453
The image on that videos is perfect. Like Supes would go up to the Stage and look just like that looking puzzled at the still intact jar of piss.

>>81378729
I honestly thought the movie was paced really well, it didn't feel long to me. There were just some unnecessary scenes that disjointed the movie a couple times(mostly dream sequences).

>>81375970
>>Batman using every gadget at his disposal during his fights. The warehouse scene is one of the greatest comic book fights caught on film ever. Also seeing him set traps for Supes is pretty much straight out of the books.

>>Alfred.

THIS!
This is what makes me so fucking hyped about the upcoming Batfleck movie. Finally a more accurate on screen Batman. Movies before this always gave tidbits of how he was in the comics. Focusing on certain things but not others . I am excited that we finally may be getting the definitive Batman on screen.

The opening Batman scene with the human trafficking ring was damn near perfect.

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Time for some world building.
Did the original doomsday have anything to do with the abandoned kryptonian out posts? Or was it darkseid?


You can see one of the holding a gun in this shot, self defense maybe?

That it wasn't a longer cut.

I liked the ammount of deaths. Batman was SO RAD. He ran over people, he shot some motherfuckers, Joker would shit himself if he had to face this Batman! He wasnt afraid of anything!

Best Batman ever.

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And when will luthor make his war suit?

>>81378986
I know at least one person who wants him to suit up against Darkseid's forces in one of the JL movies.

>>81375530
He never tries to kill Batman during the fight, he even says he wants to talk.

>>81378895
>A demon saved us
>cop opens cage, only for the sacred girl to close it back
>it's still here!

I almost came.

>>81378971
I know you're shitposting, but I wasn't so much bothered that he manslaughtered a bunch of goods (which he kind of does from time to time, depending on the writer's attention), but that he actually premeditated Superman's murder. That's just waaay to far for him.

If Ma Kent was called Selina, Supes would be double fucked.

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What are the chances of superman ever wearing kryptonian armor ever?

>>81372231
I liked how Wonder Woman was more impressive than the other two at fighting, how it should be.

>>81378879

I loved "Stop being a fucking idiot and get me some grandkids" Alfred.

Irons does such a great job of being passive aggressive about the whole thing, constantly trying to cajole Bruce into realize that he's making a huge mistake, but still always standing by him regardless.

>>81379032

One of my favorite cinematic versions of Batman ever

Also

>try not to shoot the good guys

Even after that whole horror-movie-esque sequence with Batman, and we hear about all the terrible shit he's doing to criminals without due process, it was kind of neat to see that he still has fans.

>>81378656
He had to get there before time ran out. Did you want him to walk across the bay in that heavy armor instead of taking his plane?

>>81372231

Seeing Bill finger get the credit he deserves was the best part. The opening scene of Bruce in Metropolis, I think that was very well done, especially with how it syncs in (almost) perfectly with the final fight in MoS and the Trinity fighting Doomsday. Everything else was shit

>>81377644
this. I actually like Eisemberg performance but it's clear it was the superman version of Joker, not Lex (or jr. or how the fuck you want to call him)

>>81379065

Why would he need too? Isnt being drunk on Earths sun enough armor?

>>81379065
When darkseid takes over and he becomes his general and batgod and his justice league have to stop him once again.

>>81372231

Why does Batman have guns?

>>81379223
He's Jokerish, but I wouldn't go any farther than that. Just way more manic than a Luthor should be in general

>>81379110
"New rules?"
Man how can two words sound do disapproving, disappointing and yet unconditionally supportive at the same time?

10/10 Alfred.

>>81378680
>-Wonder Woman rolling her eyes when Lex talks about Zeus.
>-Montage of Superman saving people
>-Courtroom /piss in a jar scene
>-"i'm a friend of your son's"
>-Batfleck's speech about what his father taught him as he beats the shit out of supes
>-Wondy showing up in costume
>-The Trinity fighting Doomsday

These

>>81378986
Wow. That doesn't look bad for the DCEU version of Lex's armor, but it's still weird to imagine Eisenberg in it.

>>81379065
I'm wondering what they're going to do to his costume since there's a giant gash in it now from being stabbed in the chest.

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>Movie Lex is manic-depressive and has nervous tics

>OMG HE'S TOTALLY THE JOKER

I hate you all

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>>81372231
well

>>81379268
It's a grenade launcher that shoots kryptonite gas.

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>>81379312
>eyebanging Lex in her first scene

>>81379223
He was the Riddler

>>81379312
>She totally was eye-banging Lex
>too bad Lex was too busy eye-banging the kryptonite and didn't give a damn about her other than as an expendable resource

Lex/Kryptonite OTP

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>>81372231
What I liked the most?
There were some scenes that I liked.
And they all had this theme playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw_o7XUX3fg

>>81379362
He was pretty much what Lex Luthor would be like if he were a villain of the week on the Sixties Batman.

>>81379373

>Lex/Kryptonite OTP

This has been true for decades

>>81379436
That's actually spot on

>>81372231
>What did you like most about Batman v Superman?
The fact I didn't waste ten bucks to see it. Sometimes, it's nice to not give a shit.

>>81379433

I would've liked it better if they saved the big reveal of that theme for when Wondy first appears in costume. In the theatrical release as it stands, it's overused a bit.

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>>81379282
Yeah, jokerish is how he acted, but he had a more running religious theme going on.
Also, why did he acted all weird during his speech at the library?

>>81372231
Pretty much all of this >>81378680
I also quite liked Lex in general, even if he wasn't the traditional Lex.
I can't believe I'm saying this though, but this Snyder movie needed more action.

>>81379578
yeah, it was used 3 times for some important scens.

>>81379578
It's an action theme, yeah, so it does weigh down scenes where there isn't any action.
Like...looking at a picture.

>>81379452
> Lex sees Robin
Mmhmm BOYS!

>>81379586
>Also, why did he acted all weird during his speech at the library?

Because he wasn't in the public eye and was trying to convince the Senator of his ACTUAL worldview.

That Lex and the Lex we saw confronting Superman was the REAL Lex, just a seething core of megalomania and cruelty.

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>>81379373
>mfw Lex in reality went in jail for committing the crime of not banging her
truly justice was done

>>81379286
Fucking GOAT!

>>81379641
or looking at El Flasho.

>>81379110
I fucking loved when he said Bruce should make some kids but it was clear they far away to going there. Sarcastic alfred is always the best alfred
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGw6bZPxGrA

>>81372351
>I like how superman was the "ultimate good".
>KRYPTON HAD IT'S CHANCE!
>zaaaap

Uh, no.

>>81379868
We're talking about BvS m8.

>>81379898
It's the same Superman.

>>81379949
DId you see the movie?

>>81380036
Yup and it has the same Superman/Clark Kent from MoS. Not Superboy, Cyborg Superman or Steel pretending to be Superman.

>>81379306
Buuut, he was to LedgerJoker like, really.

I don't know why he doesn't approached more to Lex megalomaniac behavior instead of that psycho thing. I mean things were clear and easy to make apart one villain from the other but instead he sort of copied and reinforced that trait without reason.

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So how will superman be resurrected? Anti-life right? Has to be.

If zod couldn't be revived through natural methods, neither can supes.

Doomzod probably infected him with something.

>Black suit confirmed

>>81372351

Snyder damn well better be a devout christian and tithing his ass off because the man's career would be literally nothing without all the Jesus swipes.

>>81372231
Batmans crazy fascist superman dream.

Not much else.

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>>81380232
>If zod couldn't be revived through natural methods, neither can supes.

Zod was on Earth for 1 day.

>>81374989
>Batman hanging from the ceiling

I felt bad for actually LOLing at that scene for being so comically goofy. Sorry to my fellow theater patrons that day.

>>81372231
The action makes up for the story. There just needed to be even more and it needed to be longer because the Dawn of Justice part of the movie was boring.

>>81372231
Batfleck, the look of Gotham at night, Alfred, Wondy, and the score (dat Lex Theme)

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>>81372231
How accurate is this?

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>>81372351
Yes! Someone has a screenshot of this! When this scene happened, I physically cringed in the theater. Why did Warner Bros think it was a good idea to let Zach Snyder do this? Where is that studio interference when you need it?

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>>81380286
Doesn't change the fact that they both died.

Why didn't Zod come back to life like superman?

>This is the closest we got to a handshake

>>81380510
He was on Earth 1 day

>Metropolis, 18 months ago
>Earth is first introduced to the Superman
I don't know why but I thought the wording was cool

>>81372231
I liked how pretty it looked

>>81376525
>he loved Thor
0/10

>>81380446
Batman = Reddit
Superman = 4Chan
Reddit loves that Batman kills, and thinks Superman is boring because he is too good. They don't appreciate or understand that a person can be altruistic and thinks everyone needs to be edgy or dark.

>>81380576
/co/ as a whole adores the Thor movies. They were comfy wumfy and cute and full of feels.

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>>81380510
"I failed him in life, I won't fail him in death"

I feel sorry for superman, all he wants to do is good, but people want to kill him simply because he's got powers

I liked how Darkseid was alluded to which explains why bats and supes behavior were different

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>>81380623
>I genuinely enjoyed the first Thor
>Thor 2 is easily the weakest of the MCU but has some good moments

>I also loved BvS and the shitposters can go fuck themselves

I liked how they made Bruce and Lex pretty obvious foils for each other.

In fact Batman's big character arc can be described as "coming dangerously close to becoming Luthor before he realizes his mistake"

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>Diana will never give you that look

jdimsa

>>81380723
Are you me?

>>81380623
I don't mind the first one, the fish out of water stuff was kinda funny. But The Dark World was fucking awful.

>>81380286
>>81380524
^
As he mentioned zod doesn't enjoy the benefits of the earth since he hasn't lived his whole life there superman is basically the swamp thing to our solar system

>>81380539
same!

>>81380623

/co/ always shit on the Thor movies.

Before those movies most people shit on Thor much like they do Aquaman. Thor is a character Marvel loves to push but he never sells. Even his movies perform lower than the other Avengers. Whor is selling better than Thor ever has.

>>81380777
>you will never make her gag on ur cock while she opens her legs and gives you that slutty smile.

I think i heard every guy in the theater collectively pop a boner at this scene. My dick was fucking diamonds. kek

>Jesse Eisenberg has confirmed he didn't do much research into his character at all and considered what research he did do "meaningless." Zack Snyder has similarly gone on record as saying that this "cold indifference" is exactly what he wanted.

Fucking really?

>>81380945
>/co/ always shit on the Thor movies.
A vocal minority does not equal /co/. They had shirtless hemsworth so that makes them perfect.

>>81380777
Yeah that part was bitting lip inducing

>>81380595
then you are superman kid, you are superman

>>81380999
Jesse could have fooled me, honestly.

>>81380999
>>81380999
Damn he really hates comics

>>81380595
>They don't appreciate or understand that a person can be altruistic
Sounds like they have something in common with 4chan, then.

>>81380999
He read a bunch of comics, but he felt that it didn't really mean anything other than finding out why Lex hates Superman so much.

>>81380999
Ledger did exactly the same thing.

>>81381139
He hasn't even watched the movie, although he thinks it sounds interesting

>>81381143
How did he not screw it up then?

>>81381193
He said he doesn't watch any of his movies. A lot of actors don't like watching their own movies.

>>81381219

Because despite the shitposting Nolan is a good director.

Snyder is not. Snyder reads comics and copy their imagry but he seems to not grasp it at all.

>>81380453
>spongebob reaction
>namefag
>cringed
>doesn't like BvS

this has to be a meme...right?

>>81381272
>Snyder reads comics
Hardly. He looks at the pictures and picks out panels that looks cool.

>>81372496
POETRY

The soundtrack, some of the fights like armored batman vs superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman vs Doomsday, Superman's sacrifice, the batmobile chase scene, and the Batman warehouse scene. I liked the Superman saving people montage, Wonder Womans appearance Batman,and the mad max Bruce Wayne nightmare. the Justice League teaser was cool too.

>>81381219
The way the Joker was written in TDK didn't require a lot of knowledge of the character. Also Ledger spent ages trying to figure out his mindset

>>81374989
Oh yeah those were great too.

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someone fucked up this movie and Snyder is getting ALL the blame for it, eventhough a lot o fuck ups seem like Exec decision to me, pushing many characters as possible. Now Snyder may be gone for good instead of keeping him for the things he is good at and letting anyone else do the rest.

I'm not mad, I'm just sad. Snyder created a great movie that got fucked over by too many cooks, elements and references.

>>81378680
I really thought the montage of superman saving people was really too much. He's so freaking stone faced and the people are touching him like a god, he's framed against the sky...I get that he has the power of the gods, but he's really just a good guy from Kansas. I just can't see Clark acting that way

I really enjoyed the intro sequence of the man of steel ending from Batman's perspective. It was pretty cool how it started with the title card 'the world is introduced to superman', then like some disaster movie or monster movie, military jets and helicopters are flying into the city, the world engine is off in the distance tearing metropolis apart, and afterwards, zod and Superman tear down what's left. I didn't really enjoy the movie that much, but seeing the same man of steel sequence from a really grounded human perspective was really one of the few excellently crafted parts of the film, even pacing and editing wise.

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It's the small bits, really, where Jesse shines.

>The problem of you on top everything else
>The problem of you above all

>>81381600
If the movie got fucked, then snyder making a great film pre fuckery is purely speculation.

>>81381606

The whole purpose of the sequence is that that's how the rest of the world sees him. It's framed against this big long montage of people comparing him to a messianic figure, treating him as a larger-than-life presence, when he really IS just a good guy from Kansas.

He wants just to be known as someone who's trying to make the world a little better however he can, and doesn't want this level of scrutiny or distrust around his actions.

>>81381600
but snyder was the retard pushing for the grim derp superman.
he is to blame and he shouldn't be given any work ever again.

>>81381272
>Because despite the shitposting Nolan is a good director.

rather Ledger was a good actor who did a lot of ad-libbing, he was fucked up anyway and showed it through his role as joker. Jared Leto seems like a more obvious fucked up person to me, thats way his acting is gonna be amazing, people liking his Joker is a whole different thing though.

>>81381708
Clark does not have enough humanizing moments in these movies. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, Cavill's IRL personality and charisma is a far better fit for the character than what Snyder has him do

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>doomsday looking inquisitively at supes statue
>wonderwoman mid-fight smirk
>heat vision DBZ battle
>supes impaling himself to impale doomsday

>>81381600

I can agree with the execs. They have been pushing the dark and brooding Superman since 1989 and most of Green Lanterns issues are from them being confused by Johns original script.

Marvel has this issue too though. It's why they have lost so many directors but since Marvel grasps their own characters they aren't fucking things over.

>>81381803

They needed to keep those cut scenes of Clark and Lois doing cute bf/gf stuff.

The dialog and acting was better than Man of Steel.
The cinematography was actually pretty on point, when it wasn't ruined by the Twilight lens filters.

>>81381850
He needs to interact with people in a human way while he's in the suit. That often posted page of him the the girl about to commit suicide stands as one of the best character moments for him ever made. Having his emotional connections just be ghost dad, mom, and Lois makes it seem like he doesn't really love people as a whole, just his people. Like everyone else.

I think the director's cut is really gonna decide whether or not Snyder knew what the fuck he was doing.

doomsday

after seeing him in the trailers i though he looked shit. pure shit hobbit troll/no spikes

though when he emerged from a fucking alien cocoon covered in goo screaming and proceeds to hand supes his ass i'll admit i did get hype

>>81381717

WB has been pushing it since Batman 89 was a hit. Kevin Smith infamously told them to fuck off because of it.

>>81381945
When the fuck has Snyder made anything good? It's all style and no substance, beyond these superficial references to paintings, religion, and comic panels. That's the shit I expect from a college art student

>>81381928
If they're gonna do the Regan scene, they'd need to earn it though, not just throw it in a montage somewhere.
It'd probably have to be in a Superman solo movie, actually.

>>81382060
They didn't earn the emotional gravitas to kill him either. But they sure as shit did it

I've got to say that I really enjoyed this movie, which surprised me since I didn't care as much for Man Of Steel. My only complaint is that some of the video editing, particularly scene transitions, was jarring. Like Bruce staring at his monitor as the decryption slowly progresses and then, suddenly, the screen's black for a while and he's in the Knightmare world or the beginning with Superman tackling the African warlord through a wall then another awkward black screen pause before the hearing.

>>81381315
>gets triggered because they don't share the same opinion of a superhero movie
>gets triggered because someone uses a reaction picture of a cartoon on a cartoon board
Happy autism awareness day by the way! I'm glad your people are finally getting the recognition they deserve.

>>81380999
Many did the same, at the end of the day, it's the director duty to decided how the character work and they act base on that.

Who here can't wait for the Justice League movie to ape visuals and themes from Kingdom Come?

>>81382212
People keep thinking he's setting up Injustice with LOIS IS THE KEY, but knowing Snyder's boner for religious allegory, he's setting up Kingdom Come for JL2.

>>81381600
The Knightmare scene and Meta humans cameo came to mind...those scene were fucking retard and out of place.

Buttman v Stupidman

Was there a post-credits scene? If it was, I missed it

>>81382420
Nope, just the deleted scene they released online

>>81372231
Batman beating the shit out of supes was good
the turned-on face wondy makes when doomsday beats her around a bit was good
affleck in general was ok
the "I can tell, it's the cape" joke was decent too
irons is always good to watch

that's pretty much it

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>>81382295
And the worst part is that it'll poison any future attempts to adapt Kingdom Come.

>>81382362

Knightmare sequence was fucking great, they just needed to introduce it better.

>meta human cameos

Not fucking retarded, but very out of place. Should've been DVD extras or release over YouTube like the Communion scene.

>>81382362
Knightmare was fine as it had a purpose relating to Bruce's state of mind. They should have cut out the Flash coming through the speedforce, that was unnecessary. All of the JL setup should have just been left as extras on the DVD that you can click through on your own.

>>81381834
Warner needs a Feige and they need it to be Jenette Khan.

>>81382597
It should be Berlanti and Kreisberg. Imagine what they could do without the stupid CW mandate of relationship drama and with the entire DCU at their disposal.

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That scene where Bruce backs away, audience thinks he's scared, then the sonic devise activates

Smug batman is best batman

>>81382670
I don't trust them.

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Should play Darkseid or Thomas Wayne Jr

>>81382670
>implying they're not the ones that made that mandate in the first place

Why do you think Supergirl has to have a least one shipping subplot in every goddamn episode despite not being a CW show.

>>81379154
I mean, he just shut down a human trafficking ring. Like literally freed sex slaves and gave the shitbags responsible a good thumping. Of course he's one of the good guys. Totally understandable that the cop flipped his shit though. I must admit, in retrospect it's fucking hilarious how Bats is just like up in the corner of the room.

Pretty much all of it. I really don't see where the critics are coming from on this one, or Man Of Steel for that matter.

In BvS, the Justice League cameos are the only part I had a problem with. Seemed forced.

>>81372496
Nice

>>81382735
CBS partly owns the CW. They're known for relationshit also.

My favorite part was the end credits because it was a piece of shit. Ben was great, and the music was great, everything else was either mediocre or bad
>batman killing
>"Lex Luthor"
>sloppy editing
>things happen when they dont need to
>the reason why batman and superman fought was stupid
>the reason why batman and superman stopped fighting was stupid
>doomsday looked like shit
>another origin for Batman
>scenes dragged on for way too long
>movie was way too long
>long haired stoner looking Flash was retarded
>the fact it wasnt Wally West was retarded

Seriously fuck this movie. How has Snyder not been fired yet?

>>81372231
I liked the warehouse scene the most and thought the film was decent overall, but it felt a little too quick with transitions.
Only parts that were 'eh' were the Justice League cameo scene and Flash appearing in front of Bruce.
Cutting that stuff out and maybe relegating it to DVD extras, like one Anon said, or modifying them to work as a after-credits scene would have been better.

>>81382885
also Lex's intentions made no fucking sense.

>>81372423
LAME should've been a bat

>>81372351
I think I missed something about Supes

Did they reveal to the public that he was Clark, or did they keep it a secret?

How do you justify them keeping it a secret if they did?

>>81382969

We just had a big goddamn thread on this yesterday

>manipulate Batman into fighting Superman
>manipulate Superman into fighting Batman
>create Doomsday as a contingency if Batman fails
>doesn't give a fuck about the collateral damage, he just wants Superman dead or discredited

>>81379292
That's the design for the DCEU Lex Armor?

I'm worried if that's it, because the helmet gives away it'll be like the vasts interior of Tony's helmet

>>81382021
>Kevin Smith
When the man that made Mysterio suicide thinks it's too dark then you know your fucked

>>81382982

Because look at how they treat Superman himself. You think Supes wants to face that as Clark Kent and have zero chance of having even a partially normal life and a chance to go where he wants without demonstrations and paparazzi and people treating him as an alien overlord/messiah 24-7?

>>81383038
That's just a recolor of the Kryptonian armor from MoS.

>>81382762
Nearly all cameos in capeshit are forced.

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So, why the hell did they kill off Clark Kent in the second movie? Are they just gonna use him as "smashing shit with a side of mope" from now on because some goddamn human interaction doesn't lend itself to slow-motion?

>>81383027
it still never explains why he wants all this. he doesnt gain anything from it. It doesnt explain why lex dislikes batman or superman

>>81382982
>>81383074
I fucked up that post.

I meant to say 'did they keep his identity a secret AFTER HE DIED'

When it was over and I was starting to calm down from the sheer shitfest I had witnessed.

>>81383263
He gets to be the guy who defeated a god.

>>81383176
Well you could do it like DD and introduce new heroes as arch rivals.

>>81383335
That is a retarded reason. fuck that movie

>>81383263
>It doesnt explain why lex dislikes batman or superman

Did you miss literally everyone monologue he has?

Lex hates the idea of anyone else having power over him. His worldview is literally incompatible with the existence of Superman, who is at best merely an obstacle for him, and at worst, competition.

>>81383263
Lex despises those who have power over him. He's always the smartest guy in the room, but his brain didn't protect him from his dad, and his dad's religious teachings taught him to resent the idea of God. So when a literal Messianic figure comes down, he goes crazy trying to figure out how to kill him.

It's not that hard

>>81383368
DD season 2 was a better Batman V Superman than Batman V Superman.

>>81383444

Well you must really fucking hate the comics then because Lex's massive ego is what drives him there too.

>>81383484
Well, you're not wrong.

>LOIS IS THE KEY TO ALL OF THIS
What did he mean by this? And was that really the FLASH? Why did he appear in a dream? Does he have dream powers?
How did Lois know that she needed to grab the kryptonite spear that she just threw into the water filled hole?
After the dream that told him that "lois is important", why did Batman completely ignore Lois?

>>81383447
stop trying to justify his stupid reasons.

>>81383263
Luthor monologues about this pretty much throughout the movie.
He basically hates that someone like Superman, a god-like being that basically stands above him on a physical scale, exists.

>>81379312
Seriously fuck Snyder for killing her off

>>81383486
That Luthor is not comic Luthor. Might as well of been Riddler.

>>81383263
He hates Superman because Daddy beating him made him believe that you cannot be both good and all-powerful at the same time. So if Superman murders Batman, he is not all good. If he dies fighting Batman, he is not all powerful. Lex gains vindication that he is right and his worldview is correct. Lex doesn't care if the whole world is destroyed, as long as he is right in the end.
Maybe it's not the Lex we wanted or expected, but it's Lex as he was portrayed in BvS.

>>81383263
He doesn't necessarily dislike Batman, he's just using him. If either of them kill the other, Lex wins. He either gets rid of Superman, or successfully corrupts Superman and proves to the world that he isn't all good.

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>>81383552
>stop trying to reasonably explain something that's pretty obvious in the movie!

>>81383475
All he did was make more powerful being to stomp his shit in. If Superman was not there his ass would be dead by his own mistake. Even if Lex got his way he just have another obstacle he has no power over.

>>81383639
Also, Batman is just a tool to Lex; he is insignificant and Lex completely ignores the fact that he can be a threat because he views him as "just a man" who can be manipulated easily.

>>81382969
Well, Lex was quit petty in the movie, he's jealous of Bat for everyone fear the guy and hate Supes for everyone worship him like a god.

He deemed himself superior than them but no one notice it so he was extremely pissed and will do everything in his power to fuck them up and he want them to knows that he's better than them too and here comes the retard plan, the end.

>>81383723
The film as a whole was a clusterfuck. Thinking anything is obvious is just a lie.

>>81383552
He was answering a question all about Lex's reasons dude.

>>81383552
Are you retarded?
An explanation that Lex pretty much says himself, does not mean that Anon is trying to justify Luthor.
Luthor's reasons for disliking Superman were always pretty stupid.

>>81383743
I am shocked he didn't try antagonize Batman after all the shit he did as well.

>>81383119
Oh yeah, I forgot about it.

Still, if they go with something like that...

Wonder Woman
Batman (specially how his suit seems to be bullet proof, I digged his reckless style. Also liked that he just didnt give a shit about killing)
The plot about Superman accountability

>>81383533
if they get Lois working, because she's a funnier character than they had in any of the movies before.

>>81383859
what

>>81383844
>Also liked that he just didnt give a shit about killing

you dont know shit about batman. That is the only huge problem with batman in the movie.

>>81383552
his daddy beat him and god didn't protect him
ergo an allpowerful and good entity can't exist -otherwise it would have protected him-
therefore supes existing is an oxymoron according to his views, since supes is like a good god and lex denies the existence of that

why is that complicated?

>>81373218
It was confusing. Why not just have flash come back in not-dream?

>>81383729
No. First he gave men(Batman) the power to kill God(Superman), men didn't do it so in his mind only the devil(Doomsday) could do it, he knows that the devil isn't good and he knows the devil will bring suffering to everyone if he wins, he just don't give a fuck anymore.

Superman could have easily disfuses a bunch of situations just by speaking up. Instead just lets them say whatever only to speak up one time which could have saved them a great deal of trouble. I get they wanted to bring down Superman but it felt kind of forced.

>>81383761

The film is a clusterfuck but most of the plot is as straightforward as it gets. That doesn't make it good but it's really easy to follow. The sticky most people failed to grasp Lex fucking Luthor was lying and manipulating people.

When a movie as dumb as BVS is too smart for modern audiences maybe the audience is the big problem though.

>>81372496
Took me a moment to understand.

Snyder the poet.

>>81383911

I think it makes sense with how his character is portrayed why he doesn't give a shit about killing anymore.

But I understand why some people are mad about it.

>>81383729
Lex made Doomsday as a contingency

>>81383911
Look, I like his autistic sense of justice, but some times it doesnt make sense
Nigga cant be all brutal and have all that gear and at the same "OH BUT I DONT KILL NO ONE SHOULD KILL KILLING IS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD"
Seriously theres nothing I hate more when Batman doesnt something incredibly fucking lethal and then the show/movie goes out of its way to explain how Batman exploding a car somehow didnt kill anyone and so he still hasnt broken his oath
Which was exactly what I was expecting this time, but was glad it didnt happen

>>81375064
Plus, when he starts hitting Supe's face and every punch gets weaker, that was dope.

You guys seem to like this Lex Luthor, but i kinda dislike how they handled his traits.
Don't get me wrong, he played a great role and had interesting traits, motives and flavour, but that ain't tastes like Lex Luthor.
Lex Luthor is a megalomaniac scheming businessman; this Lex is more a flamboyant, pshycotic Joker. Sure, he doesn't kill people directly, and he does his fair share of planning, but he feels too much like acting as and edgy teen in a play and spewing mithology quotes rather than a businessman moving chess pieces and reacting accordingly (aside from the scene where he asks access to the ship)

>>81375972
My screening got dead silence for that scene, like all the movie. The guitar riff was really jarring too since there was no previous remotely similar cue in the entire soundtrack

>>81384009

I wasn't made 7 movies where Batman kills numbed me. Plus Elseworld logic.

>>81384009
His moral code is the only thing that keeps him from NOT being Batman. He should always give a shit. If he just goes and kills people without any problems, he isnt Batman anymore, he becomes the Punisher, and that's retarded.

>>81383911
>if you aren't a one rule fag you don't know shit about Batman
Maybe he just likes Golden age Batman

>>81383911
It's about time Batman grew up and stopped giving a damn about the criminal scum he would, otherwise, leave beaten to the point of broken bones and near death.

How's the Chinese box office? BvS needs it to be able to reach billion?

>>81381272
> Snyder reads comics and copy their imagry but he seems to not grasp it at all.

And Nolan shy's away from the source material as if ashamed of it. Which is why his vision of Batman was far from definitive. Though it's funny people constantly bringing up the Nolan trilogy, which was a solo Batflick that was trying hard to be grounded in reality and tried to avoid being too "comic booky" and comparing it to a movie which is the exact opposite.

Also Lex was fuck all like Ledger Joker. Not sure where people are getting that bullshit from

>>81384150
stop posting.

>>81384102
>every vigilante that kills becomes the Punisher
I really hate this meme

>>81384158
it doesnt deserve a billion.

>>81384158
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=superman2015.htm

>>81384158

bad, very bad.

>>81384182
Snyder obviously doesnt read comics. He's only read TDKR and thats it

>>81384158
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2016/04/02/justice-league-already-doomed-in-china-as-batman-v-superman-plummets-82-percent-in-second-weekend/#1c796d541e13

>>81384158
China is damnn overrated
Europe is more important
its doing shit in europe

>>81383972
You knows the saddest part? Some critic actually said that the movie is hard to follow and understand...a fucking professional critic of all people complaint that this stupid ass movie is hard to get.

Bloody hell, what an age to be alive.

>>81384186
Nah. If anything, Batman's no-kill rule just highlights his sanctimony, as well as the sanctimony of batfags such as yourself, in light of all his other actions.

>>81384297
Stop posting.

>>81384274
The amount of references present in the movie would suggest otherwise.

>>81384182
>Not sure where people are getting that bullshit from
TDK is the only movie with a jittery psychopath that capeshit fans have seen

A lot of it actually, including Lex (even if he was way too manic and energetic a few times)

Just came back from my 3rd viewing actually, and honestly? Was the most fun one. Appreciated the great parts, laughed at the worse. Not what Snyder wanted but who cares about him, it was a fun watch.

>inb4 someone calls me a shill
I wish, but no. Feel free to call my taste shitty though

>>81378144
The scene is a recreation shot by shot of the murder in Dark Knight Returns. In there Thomas also closes his fist to attack the dude. People hated that there too?

>>81372231
>What did you like most about Batman v Superman?


Nothing

>>81372231
Batfleck.

I can't take this movie serious after the flying bats and bleeding line. At that point it bece a comedy. The oversaturtion of theocracy were like cherries on top of this jar of piss.

>Ben Affleck as batman
>Jeremy Iron's Alfred (probably my favourite character in the movie)
>The scene where Bruce's parents are killed is really nicely done
> Lex

I actually enjoyed it honestly, not perfect but I liked it

>>81372231
that it ended

>>81384346
yeah like batman killing people left and right. Zack reads a lot of batman for sure.

>>81384360
Nah. Same for me i enjoyed it for what it was. I know what to expect when i go to see a Snyder film and it delivered on many of the aspects i am looking for in a super hero movie. It was flawed yes, but still enjoyable. I look forward to Solo Batfleck movie and JLA.

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>>81372231
I hate loving this movie. Because it is an objectively badly put together movie in most aspects, so i can't defend it when people inevitably call it shit.

>>81384392
So why are you in this thread?

>>81384411
Seriously did any of you fags read the OP? There is literally another thread for people to bitch about the movie.

movie was fucking TRASH TRASH TRASH. Horse shit, garbage, awful, terrible, rubbish, shit, horrible. It had good moments but it was a bad movie. There's literally no reason to ever watch it again

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>>81372231
Why did critics not like this movie again? Was it because it didn't try to conform to their "progressive" agenda?

>>81384360
I've only seen the film twice, but what I like about it was that I came out of it wondering WHY I liked it, and which aspects of the film I liked. Yeah, it was flawed, but the acting was top notch and it was nice to see Lex keikaku the plot of the film.

>>81384427
I liked many isolated things about it, but in my uneducated opinion, it was a shit movie.
Seriously poorly made. Even though I enjoyed it, I understand why critics and some other people hate it.
With BvS, I think its clear Snyder cant direct for shit. He has some nice ideas but he just doesnt know his cinematography.

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>>81381010

Webm when?

>>81384521
Critics didn't like the film because it was at once too dull, too full of CGI, too loud and yet too quiet, and too sad. I think WaPo called it an "insult to comic book fans" which is hilarious, because it's obvious that none of them read comics

>>81384427
How many fucking times do we have to see Batman's origin story? Seriously it so overdone. Why couldn't they do Frank Miller's Dark Knight returns with the mutants and shit? That would have been fun

>>81384427
I like the actor for Lex but it didn't fit what his character really is. I kept thinking he was just an assistant for Lex's dirty work.

>>81384445
Well seeing as how Batman has killed in comics, more than once in fact. ( he actually killed KGbeast in the comics before it was retconned) maybe it's YOU who should read more Batman comics.

Also again i have to note how Snyder's name isn't anywhere in the writers credits, just saying. Also...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psVIG7YvdjM

>>81379023
>this goes over everyone's head

>>81384595
A lot of people on /co/ don't read comics either so i am not surprsed

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Batfleck was GOAT.

Also here is the Warehouse Fight Scene. Excuse the music the poster added.

Does kind of get me hype though.

https://twitter.com/CinematicEX/status/716049747597926400

>>81384445
Batman's killed before. In his first appearance. But, of course, batfags ignore that because 'not muh batman!'

>>81384595
In a way it is insult, because they think we'll buy into something just because it's got Batman or Superman in it, regardless of quality.

While that may be true, that doesn't mean they have to exploit it so blatantly.

>>81384102
That's kind of the point of his character arc in the movie. He becomes so obsessed with Superman that it drives him over the edge and turns him into reckless killer. It's not until Martha is mentioned that he snaps out of his fervor and realizes what the fuck he's doing. He was 2 seconds away from becoming Lex Luthor.

>>81384624
>defending snyder
I think we're done here, shill.

>>81384520
Cool man. Here's your (you)

Imagine how cool a scene it would have been seeing Batman break into LexCorp to steal the kryptonite. Genius to make all that happen off screen.

>>81384363
It's not cool to like Miller anymore

>>81384780


AS much as I loved this movie otherwise, it seems like they filmed two movies' worth of footage and made some pretty terrible decisions as to what to keep and what to cut.

>>81384079
He had Lex's motivations inside the Riddler's body. Whatever, maybe being in prison will change him.