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thoughts on DC Rebirth costume redesigns?

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WW looks like the perfect blend of the movie and Jim Lee's earlier take
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I think the trinity looks great, especially Wondy

Damian and Jon are qts

Wally looks fine

I'm glad they put Hal back in his pre-FP costume, it's pointless to try and improve perfection
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>>81356941
I'm getting used to the blue boots. The belt is still shit tho.
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>Gives Supes his trunks back
>Make them blue
Fucking why?
>Make Supes' boots blue
Are you fucking kidding me? Next they're going to make his cape and S blue also.
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>>81357111
>>Gives Supes his trunks back
>>Make them blue
they've been drawing his shorts like that since the new 52 started
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>>81356941
>>81356941
>Jessica
Boring/10
>that Supes
Actual shit
>Wondy
Yes
>Damian
Meh, too thick boots
>Jon
qt

>>81356953
Too much red but still good. End of the skirt or top of the boots should be yellow imo

>>81356986
Boots should be all orange but I still like it.

>>81357000
The only collar I enjoyed, and it's gone.

>>81357012
Nice

>>81357111
Lee draws undies out of habit.
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>>81357012
I love that.

Someone explain Rebirth to me. Is this just another event? Is Anti Monitor back or something?
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>>81356941
Honestly, I think Wonder Woman has never looked better.
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>>81357012
I really like this look

that's a sweet bird jacket

>>81357138
>Someone explain Rebirth to me. Is this just another event?
Naw, they're just relaunching all their books except they're trying to be more appealing this time
>Is Anti Monitor back or something?
yeah he came back in Forever Evil and Darkseid War
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Wondy looks like a combination of Fabok's costume and the movie costume, I love it
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>Still no red trunks.

Fuck this.
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>>81356941
Still going with the gun toting Arabic Green Lantern, I see. You'd think a ring would make the gun redundant.
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>>81357232
That gun saved his ass when his ring fucked up though

he's wise to carry backup
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Supergirl a cute.
Slade looks awesome, but there's no real reason for him to be old.
Dinah is nice as fuck.

I hate the cape on Wonder Woman. It's gross. At bare minimum, it shouldn't be red.
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>>81357272
>but there's no real reason for him to be old.
He's sexier that way
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>>81357272
>I hate the cape on Wonder Woman. It's gross. At bare minimum, it shouldn't be red.
Would this be better?
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No Hawkman
No interest
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>>81357178
>Naw, they're just relaunching all their books except they're trying to be more appealing this time

So what's the difference? It's not a reboot, so what are they doing differently?

>yeah he came back in Forever Evil and Darkseid War

I don't know why I forgot that.
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Oh look Baz is back. Because yeah...........we were all hoping to see him again. Fucking Power Ring had more going for her
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>>81357364
They're supposedly bringing back certain Pre-N52 elements.
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>>81357348
Yeah, actually.

I'd love to see a version with Sharp's overall design.
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I don't like the gold edging on Batman. It looks better here, but most of the time it's super garish.

Superman needs more red. Bring back the trunks.

Deathstroke's chain-mail shoulder is pretty distracting too.

The rest I don't really care about.

Except for Black Wally. He can fuck right off.
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>>81357364
>So what's the difference? It's not a reboot, so what are they doing differently?
They haven't really explicitly said WHAT makes Rebirth a Rebirth, they've just compared it to GL Rebirth and Flash Rebirth and said that the new 52 had some missing elements that they want to bring back (I'm thinking those elements are interconnectivity throughout the DCU and stuff like old friendships and acquaintances and whatnot that have been absent)
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>>81357468
>GL Rebirth and Flash Rebirth

Well, I never read those. I meant to though.
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Good:
>Superman's Neck
>Wondy's cape
>Wondy in General
>Superson
Bads
>Damian's boots and gauntlets
>Harley looks like a mascot for /k/
>Is GL holding a gun?
I've never read anything for Simon Baz, does this make sense?
>Superman's boots
Overall: 7/10
Really though, Super Neck is back. So happy
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>>81357508
GL Rebirth is pretty cool

personally I like Flash Rebirth but it's unpopular around /co/ and it is kinda skippable

>>81357511
>I've never read anything for Simon Baz, does this make sense?
yes
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>>81356941
The blue boots kind of bug me there but I think they look okay when his suit is a little lighter colored
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>>81356953
I hate this. Her skirt is way too long. Why did they get rid of the panties? This is just boring.
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So my understanding is that rebirth's Superman will be post Crisis Superman, and we're already seeing that Batman is still nu52 Batman. What about Wonder Woman? Moreover, how will nu52 Bats react to his best friend being replaced by post Crisis Supes?
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>>81357579

That looks even worse.
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>>81357580
>Why did they get rid of the panties?
because they looked retarded

they ought to shorten the skirt or reduce her boots to knee high because she looks oddly frumpy with that costume as is, but it's loads better than the stupid crotch plate
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>>81357511
Bonus: Damian's Ra's-esque tunic really fits his character and makes him unique from the other robins.
Just not sure how he's supposed to do acrobatics in knights greaves.
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>>81357588
new 52 Superman will probably still be around in some capacity? it'd be really weird to kill him or write him off entirely

Wonder Woman is still new 52 Wondy although it sounds like Rucka may intend to retcon some stuff
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Are these books meant to be new-reader friendly or are they going to be marred down in continuity? DC is really wonky about their reboots/relaunches.
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>>81356941
I'm really digging most of the Rebirth looks. I like New-52 Clark and Diana's movie inspired looks.
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>>81357652
I believe the Rebirth one shots and new #1s are all intended to be jumping on points
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>>81356941
>>81357111
>>81357213
>YFW the two Supermen become Superman Red and Superman Blue
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>>81357611

The panties made the most sense as far getting rid of the notion that she's giving everyone an upskirt peepshow though.
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>>81356986
>Deathstroke designed by Underarmor
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>>81357732
when she wore a skirt before they drew shorts on under it so there weren't any panty shots anyway
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>>81356941

They all look like shit. What's wrong with sticking to the classic simplistic styles of old?
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>>81357000
You know out of all the shit redesign of Lee, Aquaman was actually the best.
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>>81357611
This looked good.
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>>81357364
>So what's the difference? It's not a reboot, so what are they doing differently?

In a nutshell, New52 tried too hard to be a full "reboot from scratch". So, they didn't incorporate a lot of things that they previously had.

Add in the editorial nightmares associated with it all ("hey, can i use this hero/villain for my--" "NO, THEY HAVE TO BE INTRODUCED IN THIS WAY." or "NO, WRITER X HAS DIBS ON THEIR INTRO." or "NO, BLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A BAD EDITOR WHO'S GOING TO APPEAL TO THE BOSSES BY FORCING YOU TO WRITE CRAP WHILE NOT STEPPING ON ANYONE'S TOES.")

Keeping all these things in mind, it's no surprise that the Batfamily books were successful, since their editing group was much more lenient.

Still, and I think this is the most important thing -- the whole point of this is to tell better stories. When you have more in your arsenal, there's a greater potential to hit something amazing. It's the equivalent of a deck of cards: you might have a lot of combinations with, say, 26 cards, but 52 cards will MASSIVELY dwarf those possibilities.
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>>81357788
it doesn't, though

>>81357782
I liked that necklace he had early in JL, wish they'd kept that a while longer
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>>81357693
I sort of stopped reading Justice League after Amazo virus.

Did Power Ring officially join the Green Lanterns?
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>>81357788
The only thing I didn't like was the weird exposed knees thing. To me it would have been great if they got rid of the band over her knees or just covered her knees with the boots too.
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>>81357839
She will soon, pretty sure she'll be a GL by the end of Darkseid War
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>>81357740
Look he even has an Allen Iverson tm shooting sleeve.
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>>81357788
Should've just been a leotard like Power Girl.
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>>81357000
Dumb faggot that designed this doesn't even know that its scale-mail not chainmail, retard. This doesn't look kingly at all it looks like sharkboy grew up a bit
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They're whatever.
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>>81357839
She hasn't yet. she's just getting trained by GL since they're ring slingers too.
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>>81357839
>Did Power Ring officially join the Green Lanterns?
not yet but she will

Jessica and Baz are going to be Earth's/2814 GLs while everybody else is dicking around in the rest of space
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>>81357788

It looks like she's wearing a diaper.

The art here is so good otherwise. The top of this design was nice too. It was just the diaper that was the problem.
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WHY DOES SIMON BAZ HAVE A GUN?

HE'S A FUCKING GREEN LANTERN.
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>>81358030
he had it before he got the ring and it came in useful several times, why wouldn't he keep it
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>>81357772
Eventually every design gets old and outdated. Even Superman's relatively simple costume has been changed and adjusted in various ways to fit with the times - from the design of the shield, to the shape of accessories, to the shade of the outfit, to the addition or removal of the yellow cape shield, etc.
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>>81356953
So they just copied the TV show costume?
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>>81358030

I haven't read anything with Simon yet but from what I understand he had a malfunctioning ring, so the gun was his back up plan.

If it helped him a few times I don't see why he wouldn't keep it as back up.
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>>81358073

Her TV costume is pretty accurate to a look she's worn quite a few times though.

It's more like they tweaked her most recognizable outfit.
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>>81358110
Ah, i see.
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>>81358073
Yeah, you can thank CamStew for that one.
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>>81357012
I wish they would stop giving Black Canary color. She called Black Canary because of her black outfit.
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>>81356941
Every time they redesign Harley she gets worse.
Other characters have ups and downs, but she's been on a downslide ever since Arkham.
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>>81357579

So if Superman and Action Comics are both about pre Flashpoint Superman with the blue boots design what's the deal with this art for a red boots Superman?
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>>81358030
>WHY DOES SIMON BAZ HAVE A GUN?

Why does Flash drive a car?
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>>81356953
looks too frumpy. I like her outfit in that new cartoon. they should give her that
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>>81358110
Her most recognizable one's the white one with the Mickey Mouse gloves though, thanks to Superman TAS and JLU.
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>>81358209
Is it an unused design?
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>>81358232
Is it really? Even though she wore it in the comics for a while too that one never seemed particularly popular to me

the TV show has probably popularized red & blue skirt costume more now
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>>81358232

That's not Kara's outfit in the comics. It's Linda's. And I don't really know if I'd call it her most recognizable one. Blue with a red skirt is far more prominent.

And she wears a variation of that one in JLU. Just with a midriff
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>>81356986
Aco better be doing something with Rebirth.
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Fucking DC, just admit you made a mistake with Wally. That was 20 years of character progression that was abandoned and spat on by blackfacing him.
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>>81358163

This better?

I agree with you though.
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>>81357693
>pic
Why you didn't use pic actually related, the newer and more updated one?
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>>81357693

I'm surprised Batman Beyond is surviving. Rebirth is clearly a back to basics thing and a book about a Tim from a future that will never be fucking around in a further post apocalypse future that will never happen seems like something that would be cut first.
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>>81358366

Also no one posted Helena so here you guys go.

Curious to see how she gets into superheroing.
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>Batman going back to blue
Not a fan. Granted, this wouldn't bother me as much if he didn't have the gold crap, but both is too much.
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>>81358030
The better question is why is Simon Baz a character at all? What purpose does he serve that the other million Earth GL's don't?
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>>81358209
This design is so good. I've hated everything they've put superman in sans the briefs but this strikes the perfect balance between classic, MoS and N52 Superman design. It'll be a shame if it doesn't end up getting used anywhere.
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>>81356986
Metal Gear Slade
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>>81358405

He's Terry again.
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>>81358209
Looks like the movie costume.
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>>81358405
This time it will be about Terry
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>>81358405
Terry is BB now
So back to the basics
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>>81358414

I would assume that's why he and Jessica are sharing a book. To flesh them out since they've gotten so little.

But sadly it'll be a book written by dogfucker and not Johns.
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>>81358414
He was supposed to be like a mix between Hal and Sinestro but then he never hung out with his ring dads and he barely showed up in anything
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>>81358314
He said he's taking a break and has a book later
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>>81358405
Terry is gonna become the Bat of Time and basically be DC's Cable, showing up to stop the latest bad future from happening
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>>81358384
Because I didn't have that one saved
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>>81356941
>Simon still has his gun
>Superman needs more red
>Wally is still black
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>>81356941

Well I already think that's the best Wonder Woman has ever looked
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>>81358441

That's a good start. I wonder what Jurgens will do with him? If he's just going to do post cartoon stuff they might as well get Higgins back to continue 2.0. Maybe they'll pull a Spider-Man 2099 and bring him to the present?

Then Jurgens could do a crossover between his books and have Terry and post crisis Clark bond over being stranded in an alternate world. Plus that would give Terry access to potential bat event tie in sales boosts
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>>81358511

Wait really?

Why did they give that concept to fucking Jurgens?

>>81358528

>Flash and Titans have spoilers hidden in their solicits
>Lightning storm in Rebirth cover, hand most likely belonging to a character from the old universe reaching outward
>Flash deals with a speed force storm in Central City
>Titans has four of the five classic line up members with Roy/Donna/Dick/Garth
>Johns book spins directly out of Rebirth and has yet to be announce
>Talk about Rebirth being for the fans, yet the most vocal want is not there.

Are you ready for two Wallys?
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>>81358740
Waverider and Zero Hour I guess
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>Simon
Gun thing still bugs me.

>Harley
I miss good ol crazy Harley, not Crazy super
fanservice Harley.

>Killer Croc
Lol relevant

>New GL I havent the foggiest.
So... her main constructs an eye patch?

>Batman
Eh.

>Superman
Ill be honest, I actually LIKED his New52 look. This movie inspired look... not so much

>Wonder Woman
1111/10 would let her do butt stuff to me.

>Damien
I have some mixed feelings. Love how its a delightful blend of the League and Robin looks, but it doesn't really look good for the crazy shit Batman and Robin typically do.

>Superboy
... Really? Is that supposed to be Conner or Chris?

>Wally
This doesn't bug me... but its still weird to see.
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>>81358922
>... Really? Is that supposed to be Conner or Chris?

Neither. It's Jon Kent, son of post Crisis Superman and Lois Lane.
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>>81358405

It's going back to terry. No iea if the rest of that world will be scrapped but it should never have happened in the first place. Futures end should have been a bit tighter and had the first arc of Beyond as the finale. But Terry should have been the one to go back
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>>81358922

Wally bugs me because he's not with his group. He's got no where to fit in like this.

Dick, Donna, Garth, and Roy are older than him.

Tim, Con, and Cassie are supposed to have Bart.

So he's left with Damian who is really too young to be his friend and who lost the group of kids he should have been friends with in the reboot.

Even if they do bring the original universe Wally back, and I hope they do he'd be awkward too and all he would have is Superman. But at least they would have each other.
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>>81358952

There isn't backlash about this is there? He's the son of Superman and Lois. It's straight forward and the least confusing origin he ever had. Fuck all that clone shit
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>>81359004
>Even if they do bring the original universe Wally back, and I hope they do he'd be awkward too and all he would have is Superman. But at least they would have each other.
There's a pre Flashpoint Hal Jordan floating around too that they could hang with, Hal and Wally use to be pretty close

He just has to get rid of that pesky Fearbug first
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>>81356941

Really digging the WW
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>>81356941
Robin and Superboy look ridiculous.
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>>81358066
Eh, I think Post-Crisis Superman was perfection.

All the costumes over the years have been pretty similar for the most part. It's only the New 52's weird-ass decision to forget it ever happened that throws people off. It'll be mentioned years from now in threads like "remember the time Superman wore armor for five years?" along with the mullet.

I'm interested in seeing how this new costume changes over time.
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>>81359033
Not that I know of. From what I've seen people generally like the Lois & Clark comics.
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>>81357679
It's kinda unfair if you're using something by Gleason (or even Manke) as the measuring stick for Superman art, compared to the other regular DC guys.

Also

>No Spectre
>No Jay Garrick
>No White Wally
>Two Lanterns but not one of them is Alan Scott

Literally shit line up
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>>81359124

Lee draws a weird Damian Wayne.

He looks better on the supersons cover.

And goddammit am I upset that isn't shipping twice a month but fucking Red Hood is.
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>>81359202

Johns has a book spinning out of rebirth.

White Wally, Jay/JSA, and Legion are the big three guesses.

Jay had the promo art, Legion because it was a huge property once and it's long overdue for a revival in popularity, and Wally because most of /co/ wants him back.
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>>81359202
Jay and Alan are probably still in Earth 2, which isn't a part of Rebirth but will continue. According to BC they're also bringing back the classic JSA, but eh, it's BC.
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>>81359124

Fuck you and your shit taste Gregg
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wat
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>Superwoman

What's this all about?
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>>81358066
I wonder if people got pissy the first few times the costume and shield got changed
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>>81359205

Redhood has fans. I don't know why but it's a safe bet
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>>81359375
OC Doughnut character
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>>81359375
New character apparently, by Phil Jimenez
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>>81359402
>>81359444

She better not be another kryptonian whose parents also saved her before the planet exploded
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>>81359444

Aw. Here I thought it's Earth 3 Superwoman having a change of heart because of childbirth.
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>>81359459
Not sure how much hsa been said of it, but I'm going with a Phantom zone gal who wants redemption and a new life after escaping
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>>81359500
Doesn't seem to be

I think the new Superwoman and Chinese Super-man might be introduced in Tomasi's Super League crossover
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>>81357166
>dubs
>Etta
>post about Wonder Woman

A-are you a mod because this is too perfect
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>Green lanterns
>Hal Jordan and the gl corps
>blue beetle
>teen Titans
>supersons
>superman
>justice league/Trinity
What do you think of my pull list /Co/?
Will I enjoy these books? Are the writers any good?
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>>81359500
That's pretty fucking retarded, Whitney.
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>>81357000

I like the ideas here, but I much prefer the regal looking belt and collar from the New52.
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>>81357349
>being a characterfag
>in 2016
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>>81359550
Those could all potentially be decent to good
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>>81357788
Oh god no it didn't. It was so fucking stupid. I don't know what idiot decided to have the the diamong red shit at the bottom thats partially bordered in gold like shes having a goddamn kryptonian period.
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>>81356941
I hate the blue boots. I bite the bullet and get over red trucks but I draw the line at red boots dammit.

>>81357679
This looks great, but why are his boots red in this? Is this old universe Clark? Please say yes
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>>81359550

>Maxwell isn't buying Wonder Woman

Surprise, surprise
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>>81356953
Perfectly dine, back to basics look. Fixes the idiotic boots of the new52 suit.
Will probably last like a year and a half- this is Supergirl, after all.

>>81356986
This would probably look better if the belt was actually a full belt.
May be a touch too generic with all that grey.

>>81357000
Yup, that's an Aquaman alright.

>>81357012
Hey look, it's a ready for tv/movie costume. Sweet bird graphic.

>>81357193
I'm still not sold on silver as the accent colour for Wondy, but this is overall good.
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>>81359605
I'm honestly just hoping that blue beetle sticks around this time
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OP of >>81359633

How did I read >>81357679 and not see the answer to my question... Well fuck. Can anyone tell !e how the Lois and Clark books have been?
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>>81357349
Where the fuck IS Hawkman?
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>>81359550
>Green Lanterns
It's Dogfucker, so chances are it'll be shit.
>Hal Jordan and the GLC
It's Venditti, so chances are it'll be shit.
>Blue Beetle
Looks good.
>Teen Titans
Probably shitty.
>Supersons
No idea
>Superman
Looks pretty decent.
>Justice League
Hitch is a pretty terrible writer so chances are it'll be shitty
>Trinity
Manapul is a pretty... eh writer so who knows, maybe it'll be decent.
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>>81356941
So, why is Swamp Thing/Possibly Killer Crock in the line-up?
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>>81359748
>Can anyone tell !e how the Lois and Clark books have been?

Readably mediocre. Not bad, just nothing special.
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>>81359974
They've had nice guy Croc going for a while now.

>protects the homeless of Gotham
>Roy's AA sponsor, also the same guy that helped him clean up
>fairly loyal friend of Selina
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>>81357232
That's the gun that shot Sinestro, you slut
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>>81359396

Robin was selling better by a good margin.
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>>81359974
Movie
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>Batman
>Wonder Woman
>Supergirl
>Blue Beetle
>Trinity
>All-Star Batman
>Deatstroke
What do you think /co/? What are you pulling?
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>>81360022

He is also protecting Olive and hanging with the Gotham Academy kids.
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I'll hop on for Batman, Superboy & Robin, and maybe Supes/Wondy

I always try to hop on DC weeklies but they never stick with me.
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>>81359550
No, not really. Green Lanterns, Hal Jordan, Teen Titans all have shitty writers. Super Sons has nobodies. Justice League and Trinity have mediocre writers. Blue Beetle and Superman could be good.

It's funny, because the Rebirth talent lineup is actually not bad at all, but you managed to pick most of the shitty/mediocre writers. Except for Red Hood and the Outlaws.
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>>81360022
also his appearance in Gotham Academy
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>>81360022
Cool, I liked Croc's part of Eternal and I loved him being Roy's sponsor, hopefully we get some more spotlight.
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>>81360072
My tentative list is Wonder Woman, Batman, Nightwing, GLs, HJGLC, Super Sons, Deathstroke, Supergirl, Blue Beetle, maybe New Super-man, Trinity, All Star Batman, BOP
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>>81360081
I think Percy deserves another chance. He's already evolved some, and I think Titans will be worth checking out, at least. Also, Trinity is probably worth pulling for the art. Mannapul will probably be god-tier.
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Black Wally can fuck off. I'm not touching any books that will feature him.
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>>81360072
Trinity only.
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>>81360141
I don't know about Percy. He comes across to me as that guy who's convinced that what he's writing is philosophical brilliance. But maybe Teen Titans is so out of his comfort zone, that it might be fun
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>>81360141

Percy's GA is filler until Rebirth. It's not really indicative to his overall quality. I want to wait and see as well.
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>>81358740
>Why did they give that concept to fucking Jurgens?

It sounds suspiciously like the concept of Booster Gold's 52 spinoff series. Which was good, and did bring back Booster's creator, Dan Jurgens.
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I'm curious. Why are you guys excited for Snyder on All-Star Batman of you dreaded his run? Is it because it's not the main book or something?
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>>81358740
>>Flash and Titans have spoilers hidden in their solicits
>>Lightning storm in Rebirth cover, hand most likely belonging to a character from the old universe reaching outward
>>Flash deals with a speed force storm in Central City
>>Titans has four of the five classic line up members with Roy/Donna/Dick/Garth
>>Johns book spins directly out of Rebirth and has yet to be announce
>>Talk about Rebirth being for the fans, yet the most vocal want is not there

Would they like bring in pre-Flashpoint Wally or something? Because if they do, it would still make no sense for him to be friends with the classic Titans who are younger than him
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>>81360302
>All Star Batman
>Without Miller
It seems like sacrilege.
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>>81360302

Yes. Snyder has straight up said that he couldn't do small stories because Batman was the event book. He is excited to write small stories with villains that aren't Joker. Snyder isn't a bad writer he just can't carry big stories.
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>>81359263
Geoff Johns already tried to 'Rebirth' the Legion, though, and it didn't really work.

He did like two or three stories, got bored with it, and tossed it back over to Giffen.
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>>81360348

They could bring back a younger version or deage him to 21 somehow.
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>>81360302
That, plus I've liked a lot of Snyder's non-joker work (Court of Owls, Zero Year, Black Mirror). Plus, even if the story sucks, the art will be godly. I'm already pumped for Paul Pope.
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>>81360348
Titans Hunt is already explaining how they had adventures that never took place in this continuity. I don't know why you're pretending like it would make no sense.
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>>81360403
Use Speedforce bs to deage Superior Wally.
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I will gladly trade Superman's red boots for the classic neckline. And Jon's costume is adorable.

I ain't mad about any of these.
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>>81360415

I am just worried about Muh Kingfu. I've seen quite a few people say they are switching to All Star for Snyder. I hope he can get that 100000 a month readership. He deserves it.
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>>81360420
Speaking of Titans Hunt it has been cut short to 8 issues total because of Rebirth.
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>Croc is incredible hulk

>muslim lantern still carries a handgun even though he can create ANYTHING with his ring

why
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>>81360460
It's going to drop from that regardless because of the double-shipping, but even 70-80k a month would be good
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>>81358740
Johns' spinoff book is probably going to be Legion.
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>>81360471

They explain why he has it in his run.

But of course I wouldn't expect /co/ to read comics.
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>>81359459
Maybe they're bringing back Karsta Wor-Ul who existed just long enough to disappear before New Krypton happened.
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>>81360496
It seems like he mentions them in every interview, but I'm scared to say he's on it for sure. Don't want to get myself excited.
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>>81360254
He's had a full year on GA, and all he's produced is racist tentacle machines and "I became a werewolf and learned about privelege"
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>>81360420
Titans Hunt is how they forgot about their adventures that did take place in this universe, not that they took place in others. Everything said in it is about how they forgot, not how it was someplace else sometime else or whatever.
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>>81360496

It really does deserve to be a top tier property again. Johns does have the name recognition to do it too.
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>>81360302
Because Black Mirror was awesome, and here we'll have Snyder not writing big long events
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>>81360348
>>81360403
>>81360427

Wally was like in his mid 20s. You don't have to de-age him to have him hang out with people around his own age.

Though they'll probably off his kids/not bring them back.
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>>81360386
He never worked on an actual LOSH ongoing though, just did a couple stories
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>>81360545
Plus, he fucking loves the Legion.
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Should I read New 52 to understand what will happen here?
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>>81356941
Female green lantern from earth, finally, but again just a generic GL thing.

Baz needs to go away, he's not happening DC, stop trying to make him happen.

Wondy is meh.

Batman needs some yellow or something to break up the cool colors.

Harley looks dumb as hell.

Superman looks okay, but way way way too much blue.

>Black Wally now has wally's old costume

Fuck off Didio.
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>>81360386
>>81360564
He had to pass them along and generally drop all his Superman related stuff to do Blackest Night and Flash Rebirth.
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>>81360562

I want his kids and Linda back.

Honestly he should have returned not Superman.

Why does DiDio hate Wally so damn much?
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>>81360596
It really, really should be his kids teaming up with Damian. Atleast Iris. Imagine Wally and Bruce talking about how their kids are hanging out and shit. It'd be great.
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>>81360630

>We will never get a young justice reboot with Damian, Chris, Sin, Lian, Iris, and Jai.

Why live?
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>>81360655
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>>81360588
So he dropped them to do complete garbage, and the second worst Flash story he ever did.
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>>81360683
Is that Flash a girl?
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>>81360770

That's Iris West Jr. The second Impulse.

>>81360769

What's the worst Flash story he did? The Brightest Day run?
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>>81360770
Yup.
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>>81360583
Nah. You should (probably) read the one shot tho.
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>>81360807
>>81360810
Cool, thanks.
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The Hulk has seen better days.
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>>81360583

Might depend on the book. Read Grayson if you want to pick up Nightwing.
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If they bring back OG Wally it should be with this costume but with gold instead of silver.
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>>81360542
How are they explaining the fact that NuDonna is less than a year old then?
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>>81360460
Post yfw King crashes Batman to 15k with no survivors.
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>>81360807
I never before realized how unusual it is to have a female character named Jr
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>>81356953
Supergirl is cute!!!
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>>81360891

Typing that out I agree. I wanted to convey she wasn't a deaged Iris. She really would be a Jr huh? I'm just tired sorry.
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>>81356941
>lil superman
wait
is that superman's son from pre-crisis Superman??
HYPE
also
>wonder woman being the shortest trinity member
SEXIST
Diana was always 6'0", iirc, and she wears heels.
she should actually be tallest because of that.
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>>81360585
>Black Wally now has Wally's old costume
No, Wally has Wally's costume.
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>>81360887

If it doesn't make him a top seller what's the point?

>>81360917

Shit I meant wouldn't.
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>>81360769
>he doesn't like Blackest Night
No accounting for shit taste, I suppose.
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>>81360935
>is that superman's son from pre-crisis
Yes. I'm pretty hype too.
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>>81360807
The one where he retconned Heatwave's face turn as Barry brainwashing the Top into turning the Rogues away from crime.
Identity Crisis was the worst, and very little good came out of even the tie ins.
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>>81360962
Blackest Night is shit m8, all it did was pointlessly kill off legacies and bring back some old farts who were better off dead (plus Aquaman and MM).
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>>81360988
shit
i'm shaking with excitement
i was waiting for a few issues of the pre-crisis supes book to pile up before i started reading, guess i better jump on it.

whats the name of that book?
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I like pretty much all of it, even if Damien looks a little too 'anime', I can put up with it.

But why in all that is good an just are DC so afraid to give Supes his red undies back?

Super hyped for Rebirth though. Can't wait.
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>>81360962
My interest in his Green Lantern stuff dropped after Sinestro Corps War, when he really started pushing the Empire of Tears as innocent victims and couldn't be bothered to come up with better names for the various colour rings than [Colour] Lanterns.

Blackest Night was just too shlocky horror and fully committed to Johns' splatter fetish for me to like.
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>>81361029
The event itself was still fucking cool. Also, Captain Boomerang was not better off dead.
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>>81360770
Yeah but she's dead now.
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>>81360886
It's Donna Troy, dude. It wouldn't be the first time her origin was a convoluted self retconning mess. Hell, that's probably more true to the character which is the entire point of Titans Hunt.
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>>81361100
If you think he pushed that, you're understanding it wrong. They're more like the Punisher: Something awful happened to them, but they became something as bad, if not worse, in response. Anyway, I found the run pretty consistently great up until Baz's introduction, and even then it had a god-tier finale.
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>>81361082
>But why in all that is good an just are DC so afraid to give Supes his red undies back?
They aren't "afraid" to bring the red undies back. The red undies are simply a dated concept. They look stupid. There. Deal with that.

If it's okay for Batman to ditch his undies, why not for Supes too? Silver age fags are the worst.
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>>81361115
>"Trevor" Jordan
Nice try, Hal

For real though I enjoyed Blackest Night, some great Hal+ Barry bro times and it was fun overall

Most of the tie ins were repetitive and boring though
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>>81361115
They just traded one Captain Boomerang for another.

Owen Mercer ended up being completely pointless.
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>>81360917
She wouldn't really be Iris West Junior because her mom isn't named Iris. Naming your kid after an older relative is common enough that if it were the case there'd be a lot more juniors running around.

It's probably just easier to call her Iris West 2 or II, really, since junior does look weird. Not that it matters since she doesn't exist and dollars to donuts she wouldn't come back even if Rebirth brought the the real Wally back.
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>>81361174
>Owen Mercer ended up being completely pointless
He was introduced in Identity Crisis, he got what he deserved
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>>81361188
Despite being shoehorned into "Barry is an agency raping monster" the identity crisis Flash tie ins were fine books.
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>>81361174
No, they traded a boring, flat kid for one of the greatest characters in comics.
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>>81356941
>All the trouble of bringing Pre-FP Superman back
>Won't let him keep the classic look

God fucking damn it DC
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>>81356941
Why does the Muslim GL still have a damn gun?
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>>81361254
It's his thing.
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>>81361188
Bart having a brother was a fun notion though. Just wasted.
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>>81361082
They're trying to send a message : in the DC universe, pretty much all men go commando.
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>>81361254
Isn't the better question "Why doesn't John "Oorah" Stewart go around with a gun too, now that his character is like, 140% generic marine man"
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>>81356941
>DC Rebirth
Are they rebooting the universe again?
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>>81361406
Nope.
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>>81361412
Not for another six or eight years then I guess.
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>>81358384
>Priest on Deathstroke
Holy shit.
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>>81360078
>Supes/Wondy
Cancelled and replaced with a Trinity book
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>>81360887
if fewer people buy it, then it'll be good
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>>81361254
Because hes not a retard who wants to 100% rely on a broken ring
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>>81361929

The entire point of King on Batman is so his name cam sell smaller characters and a great book like Omega Men can actually sell and last.
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>>81362008

You seem to actually read comic books why are you here?
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>>81356941
based wonder woman cape
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>>81361045
It's not Pre-Crisis, it's Post-Crisis, and I think it's called Superman: Lois and Clark.
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>>81356941
Coulda been worse.
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>>81357693
>>81358384
too many double shipping comics
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>>81356941
>>81357579
>>81357679

Why do they keep making these shit belt designs when they already perfected the look? I'd argue this is even better than the red trunks.
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being a green lantern and flash fan is suffering
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>>81356941
Every recent Harley redesign screams "I hate harlequin costumes so here's a shirt that vaguely calls back her original outfit."
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>>81358163
>She called Black Canary because of her black outfit
The black part has been metaphorical since day one.

>>81357012
I like it.

>>81356941
My boner likes Power Ring the rest are meh.
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>>81356941
Did they reveal the other silhouette picture with the blue curtain?
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>mexican blue bettle
>cancelled after a few issue once again
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>>81356941

Why is Kid Flash black?
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>>81363461
Gotta fill that racial diversity quota somehow, anon. Whiny bitches will get mad if you don't.
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>>81357012
Fuck this new shitty Black Canary so much. Fuck the punk rock bullshit.

Why did they have to mess with perfection?
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>>81363481
Yeah, gotta please the tumblristas that only comment on comic covers.
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I will continue boycotting DC until nigger Wally is gone.

Notice their sales suck.
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>>81363055
this
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>>81358411
I like it except for the ties across the front. It makes the whole thing look weirdly Asian.
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>>81358411
>>81363655
Oh, and the lack of horns on the mask
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>>81356953

Looks like the assignment was "draw the most normal-looking Supergirl you can, with no distinguishing features whatsoever".

To be fair, that's not a bad idea if they're serious about going back to basics.
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>>81356941
>Superman now with EVEN LESS red!
Huh. I like >>81358209 better.

>>81356953
>>81356986
>>81357000
>>81357012
>>81358411
These are cool. Kara's side profile makes her look a little anorexic in this style though.
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>>81357000

Looks like gay shit.

They should just copy Aquadrogo.
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>>81356986
this is gorgeous
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>>81357000
looks like he shit himself twice
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>>81356986

I hate Deathstroke as a character, but if they have to use him, that's a pretty decent look for him.
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>>81357511
he has a gun in case his ring powers down so he isnt defenseless
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>>81357012

Kind of eh, but looks like the sort of thing that can be salvaged by a better artist with a nicer style.

The bird in the back is a nice detail, but a BC should be without her jacket a lot of the time anyway, and this outfit doesn't look like it works like that without some changes.
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>>81356941
They're rebooting AGAIN? Fuck. Batman's outfit looks really shitty and ill-designed. Female Lantern is nice but who I assume is Stewart looks dumb. Looks like they're trying to ape the movie outfits for Superman and Wonder Woman. Supes looks bad, glad the classic logo is back though. WW looks FANTASTIC. The kids look terrible except for Flash. Quinn... she's looked awful for ages now. Get rid of the white skin and bring back the blonde hair.
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>>81363879
>They're rebooting AGAIN?
Every five years until you like it.
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>>81358030

So he can shoot Sinestro again.
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>>81358030
They explain it in his comic. Fucker isn't even in that many and you haven't read them.
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>>81359388
>MoS logo looks like the S got fat
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>>81363461
The show. Not even joking
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>People thought it couldn't get worse than Nu52
When did tumblr take over comics?
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>>81363461
Because it would be racist to change him back. Soon every comic character ever will be black for this exact reason.
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>>81356941
Male GL: Okay suit. But put away the gun and use your imagination.
Don't like the character.

Harley: Not a fan of the hat.
Don't know her personallity in Rebirth. Loved how in some of the other comics she is doing hero work. Or atleast NOT working with the Joker. Dunno how she is in Rebirth.

Swamp thing?: Not sure if thats him. Don't like the design.
Hope he hasn't changed too much personallity-wise.

Female GL: Kinda looks like a regular GL.
No idea who that is or what she does.

Batman: Batman

Superman: Isn't even wearing red boots anymore? First the undewear, now the boots. Meh don't really care.
No idea how he is in Rebirth. As long as he isn't Captain Douchebag anymore.

Wonder Woman: Either she need pants or a longer battle skirt. Or alternatively she could cover up her chest like the costume from the gif. Atleast she doesn't have that annoying star patterns anymore.

Robin: I like.

Superboy?: Could use an actual costume.

Kid Flash: Looks like regular the Kid Flash costume, not much changed.
I miss Wally West.. The REAL Wally West. Not whatever this little shit is surpose to be.
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>>81364239
will it circle back in like 60 years or so? The new diversity thing will be to make a character white.
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>>81364276
>Swamp thing
Just realized it could be Killer Croc. In which case he looks alright.
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>>81364283
No because by then everyone will either be black or mixed, and so all the characters will be replaced by even blacker characters.
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>>81356953
I would have prefered if they had keep the cape from here new 52 costume but otherwise I like it.
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>>81364316
>even blacker characters.
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>>81356953
>>81356986
>>81357000
>>81357012
>>81358411

Nothing changed.
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>>81364276
>Robin: I like.
Actually gonna take that back, not a fan of the thick armor bits. Could be thinner. Otherwise, I like it.
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>>81364388
>strawpoll

fuck off
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>>81364388
>No sweet Christmas
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>>81358511
>bring Terry back
>turn him into a time traveller
DC really should just leave this character alone
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>>81363446
Teds in it as well
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>>81356941
I don't think any of those outfits are going to be real. Supershota and Dame are wearing different outfits in their ongoing. Same with Harley.

>>81356953
Long overdue. Looks perfect.

>>81356986
I don't think he needed a change, but if he had to have one it's not bad.

>>81357000
I thought Ivan had a perfect one. Not bad, but not great.

>>81357012
Perfect.
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>>81363879
>They're rebooting AGAIN?
No theyre not
Look it up yourself
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>>81364548

I wish they rebooted again. Their whole current universe is shit.
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>>81360944
If you read that awful Flash book you wouldn't be pretending he's the same character. Nothing alike, no reason to treat him as anything deserving respect.
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>>81360880
So you basically just want Van Sciver's terrible Wally design but darker?
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>>81360944
I like how they given him a little rock and roll pose to make him look cheeky even though this will without a doubt be the third time they've told us black Wally will be just like old Wally before making him a troubled urban youth that don't take no sass from no one.
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>>81358384
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>>81358066
>Eventually every design gets old and outdated
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>>81364687
> without the armpits

Case in fucking point
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>>81364687
>Trying to prove costumes never really change
>Chooses Spider-Man
God damn man, this has to be bait.
>>
>>81364558
Superboy Prime, pls.
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>>81356941
dark blue make supes look like murderman
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>>81364724
>>81364767
the core of spidey's suit always stayed the same since its inception, small details like web armpits or eye where the only thing that actualy changed, Supes has been going trough radical suit changes the last 20 years. the only thing Spidey has that compares to that is the black suit and even that didnt stick for long
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>>81365123
Theyve changed the black to blue which is a big change
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>>81365123

>the only thing Spidey has that compares to that is the black suit

Two words: Iron Spider.
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>>81365136
>alternate costume he wore for an event

you sure showed him!
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>>81359205
I'm pretty sure Red Hood is monthly.
>>
Maybe I will try this Rebirth thing. I only really read 2000AD and only know DC people via osmosis.

Might be worth a roll of the dice, /co/?
>>
>>81360655
What no maxine?
>>
>>81365486
Give it a go, man. Any particular characters you interested in reading?
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>>81357698
Superman looks pretty good in all red.
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>>81358384
>>81364600

It is a relaunch. Johns even called it a relaunch multiple times.
>>
Green Lanterns is about the 2 new human Lanterns that nobody give a shit about, and Green Lantern Corps is now Hal's book.

John Stewart is nowhere to be seen.

Why is DC so shit?
>>
Diversity, yes!
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>>81365599
John Stewart's in GLC along with Guy and Kyle
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>>81365641
The only real diversity is Black Wally and GLs, the former being from before Rebirth anyway
DCYou had a gay headlining a book
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>>81365527
Yeah, actually, all of them. I have always kinda wanted to read comics American style for a change where there are multiple titles and they all co-exist in some sense. I think its kinda neat but obtuse and difficult to engage with. I'm used to buying just two different titles.

Overall I am most keen on the main ones, the trinity of course, and Aquaman.
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>>81365782
So he's stuck playing second fiddle to Hal.

Fucking disgusting.
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>>81365861
He always has aside from Mosaic
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>>81356941
man first time seeing diana
she's perfect
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>>81359932
that's...a really good question actually
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>>81357693
>no omega men
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>>81365134
Not really, considering that even when it was black it had the blue highlights.
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>>81365813
> Yeah, actually, all of them.

sweet. You'll likely end up dropping a book or two, just out of personal taste and the like, but yeah, connected universes are one of the biggest reasons I still read comics.

There are a few characters that will turn me off a book, like Harley Quinn for example and I tend to not want to continue reading, but I find that reading them for even just minor background references to other characters, like seeing a kid walk past with a Green Lantern t shirt on, makes it worth it.

I find it makes the world seem real, these people like Constantine or Commissioner Gordon are still going around, doing their thing while Superman fights a space god in orbit.
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>>81366023
I am looking forward to this, actually.

To be honest, I really hate Green Lantern, though I have never read page one of his comics. I am actually excited to put my prejudice aside and give Lantern a fair crack.
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>>81365956
Not sure if retarded or just pretending.
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>>81366112
well i'm sorry i love the omega men
maybe the new series not so much
but v1 for sure
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>>81366070
haha well that's funny. He's my favourite character.

To each their own, though. If you'd like to read some "good" GL /co/ will shit on me for having an opinion here, I cannot recommend enough starting with the, fittingly named, Green Lantern Rebirth. It really kicked the character and their series into full gear.

I find them easy to read, because they've changed so little over the years, especially with the likes of New 52, pretty much nothing was retconned. They had a pretty dedicated writer for a long time and he really helped shaped the mythology.

I'm sure you'll find a few favourite characters to rant about on /co/.
>>
>>81356953
>>81356986
>>81357000
>>81357012
Any pics like this for Jon and Damian?
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>>81366070
>though I have never read page one of his comics
>green lantern is just one person
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>>81366230
>implying any GL but Hal really matters.
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>>81366252
>implying Hal isn't worst GL
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>>81366271
>alan scott

>implying pic related isn't best lantern
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>>81366308
nice try
we all know who the real hero is
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>>81366359
b'ox can't even hold a candle to Dkrtzy
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>>81356941
Why would GL need a fucking gun?
Why is Harley a soldier?
What the fuck did they do to Swamp Thing?
Yellow doesn't look very good on a black guy. But it's not horrid. Everything else is pretty alright. I kinda think Batman needs a little bit more color and Supes' belt and shin lines are a little dumb.
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>>81366437
>Why would GL need a fucking gun?

Today on "how to spot the guy who doesn't read comics".
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>>81366403
you know i wish mogo would get some more attention
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>>81356941
>2 green lanterns: a Muslim guy and a dark chick
>black kid flash
What the fuck
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>>81366457
Yeah me too, though I can see why he's left alone more than not.
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>>81366437
Wait, that's Croc isn't it?
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>>81366437
>Swamp Thing
ishygydigy
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>>81356941
I love em
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>>81366453
No I don't read GL. At all. Please explain why he would need a gun?
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>>81366572
its been answered like five times already, but its a personal thing. The guy like to have it as back up for when his ring gets drained or runs out and it has saved him more than once.
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>>81366230
I'm not about to go into details that I don't even know. Suffice it to say that I always thought his powers sounded stupid. I have been told they're virtually limited only by imagination. If so, Lantern must be the dullest boy in town because every time I have seen him in a cartoon or a computer game or whatever its always 'giant fist to punch a guy', 'giant catchers mitt to catch something', and other lame rubbish. I am sure the comics have been grand they are just out of my experience to date.

>>81366203
Thanks man. I don't sweat having my own tastes. Hell, I'll admit that I have an interest largely because I really liked Batman v Superman. It had tons of problems, but I can forgive a lot in a movie for the sake of the parts I like.
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Finally some more brown waifus. Suck it /pol/
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>>81366629
again "green lantern" is not just one guy
there are so many goddamn lanterns it's pretty much impossible to hate all of them
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>>81366629
>Hell, I'll admit that I have an interest largely because I really liked Batman v Superman. It had tons of problems, but I can forgive a lot in a movie for the sake of the parts I like

Yeah BvS was flawed, for sure, but I loved it. Going to see it for a second time in a few days.

I hope you find some books you enjoy.
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>>81365861
Quiet Desh
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>>81366629
>If so, Lantern must be the dullest boy in town because every time I have seen him in a cartoon or a computer game or whatever its always 'giant fist to punch a guy', 'giant catchers mitt to catch something', and other lame rubbish.
That's because drawing or CGing anything more elaborate costs too much time and money
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>>81366598
>"My ring's power is gone w-what should I do!? Oh wait, I have a gun!"
Makes sense.
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>>81366687
Oh; vital question!

Are US comics still infested with ads? I picked up a catwoman comic once in 2003 and literally every second page was an advert. I remember counting them. I don't think I finished reading the issue either.

None of that in 2000AD. Very little advertising, never in the middle of a story, and with very rare exception its all for other 2000AD stuff.
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>>81367514
Just get the digital edition - or print collected editions - no ads.
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>>81367514
Sadly, yeah. It's the only way they can keep going.

I tend to only buy floppies if I really, really like the book, or If it has a great cover.

The majority of my comic funds go to digital copies and collected editions.
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>>81367514
Yes. With a 20 page comic there will be 12 pages of ads

You could go digital which has no ads, it occasionally 1-2 at the front of the book, or trade wait
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>>81366760

His ring didn't work right at first. The gun has come in handy. Why is this even an issue?
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>>81367514
honestly the floppies are at this point, just glorified advertising. The ratio of physical to digital gets closer every day
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>>81367788
It's not an issue, the guy is just a dumbass trying to bait you.

Either that or a legitimate dumbass who can't comprehend something so simple.

Either way, /co/ doesn't read comics.
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Batman's new costume is shit
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>>81364581
That's the Dark Flash costume, you massive casual.
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>>81368142
I like it
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>>81368142
I like everything except the orange.
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Could be worse, could better but at least it doesn't include mutton chops and goggles.
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>>81367798
Digital has began to stagnate

It's trades that are growing more
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>>81368404
Really?
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>>81356986
>one exposed arm

WHY?
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>>81368142
We will never have this costume again :(
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>>81368502
really? well thats great news i guess
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>>81368528
Looks good.
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>>81368540

feels bad, man
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>>81356941
The problem is everything Jum Lee draws seems ok, but then in hand of other people the results can be really bad. I really like the new costumes for Superman, WW and John, and I wonder which costume will wear New52 Superman and the Justice Society, if and when they come back.
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>>81368747

That's Simon not John.
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>>81369028
Isn't Superman son's name John?
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>>81368601
>>81368540
not movie synergetic enough
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>>81369442
Jon
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>>81369460

I think Squad and some costumes are it at least. Rucka said be was told to disregard synergy entirely and Perxy told the Felicity fans to fuck off.
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>>81358384
Isn't All-Star Batman bi-weekly as well?
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>Simon Baz still has a fucking gun

YOU'RE A FUCKING GREEN LANTERN

YOU CAN MAKE ANYTHING WITH YOUR MIND
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So just to be clear: Post-Crisis Superman, Flash, and Parallax Hal are all floating around somewhere in the new universe...and every other person in that old universe is fucking dead?

Jesus.

I want a giant event when the three of them team up to save/ressurect their old universe. Just, give them a happy ending, christ.
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>>81365134
the reason it was changed was because everyone always thought it was blue
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>>81356941

GL there looks like Kickass. As in the character, Kickass, not "GL looks kick ass".
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>>81356953
Considering the N52 costume, this is a improvement
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>>81370671
until the ring fails. The gun is a back-up
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I like Harley's soldier look - well at least more than her New 52 look
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>>81358740

Anon please don't fill me with false hope
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>>81371553

Just remembered he's actually not anon, thanks april fools.
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>>81366437

>Why would GL need a fucking gun?

He's black
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>>81356941

WAIT THATS KILLER CROC

I thought that was fucking Swamp Thing dude holy shit
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>>81357698
Is this an upcoming story, or did nu52 redo the red vs blue?
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>>81371684
It's a variant.
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>They abandoned Earth 2
why god, why
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>>81371818
Cover variant?
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>>81371872
Earth 2 is continuing though.
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>>81371934
Is there any other kind?
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>>81371662
He's just a really tan Lebanese
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>>81371956
They abandoned it LONG before rebirth though. Ever since Robinson walked. though from what I hear, they did a "soft" reboot already with Abnett(i think) I need to look into it

>>81371993
I was thinking that too, but maybe something like another elseworlds or a one-off

speaking of, Does Grayson end when Nightwing gets rebirthed?
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>>81370580
I don't think so, Snyder said he didn't have time for a double shipping book

>>81370933
And crisis era Supergirl, yes

At least Supes and Lois have mostly fit themselves in, Hal is just fucking crazy
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Where are the Trunks?

Superman needs his undies, they're requisite
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okay, is there somewhere that ISN'T wikipedia that can give me a good, clear rundown on all the major events? a lot of things seem to be tied to "Crisis", which I assume is of infinite earths, but I'm still not sure
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>>81372109
Never, ever, ever coming back, so you should drop it already.
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>>81356941
>Baz
Did something change?
>Harley
uhhh that's not a one off costume?
>power ring
aww lame she's not just a green lantern
I'm more happy that she's still gonna be around
>batman
yeah that's a batman
>superman
I think this might be better, still don't like it
>wonerwoman
FINALLY!
>robin
might actually be my favorite robin costume of all time
>superboy
might actually be my least favorite super costume of all time
>kid flash
now we're talking
>>81356953
yep that's a supergirl
>>81356986
this is the worst
>>81357000
fins on the gloves work, fins on the boost not so much
also this art is not good
>>81357012
sure
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>>81372276
Oh I also forgot the mention the incredible swamp thing
because there's a reason to wear pants ugh
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>>81372327

That's Croc.
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>>81372045

Grayson isn't so much ending as it is evolving into Nightwing. Seeley is continuing the plots started there and Midnighter and Tiger will be supporting cast members.
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>>81372509
That's good to hear, then.
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>>81359388
>GOAT tier
Kingdom Come
MoS
Action Comics #1
>Good tier
Superman: The Movie 1978
Adventures of Superman
Superman The Animated Series
Max Fleischer's Superman
>Alright Tier
Columbia Serials (give it the color of Superman Returns and it would look a fuck ton better)
Smallville
>Objectively Bad tier
Superman #7
Original Logo
Electric Blue
>What in odin's beard is this rancid shit Tier
Mark of El
Superman #4
Superman #9 it makes me physically feel like shit looking at it
>Does anyone even like these tier
The Rest
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>>81359388
Kingdom Come and MOS are the best. I liked the logo they came up with for the unproduced Superman Lives
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>>81372446
...why does he look like he's made of moss?
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>>81366136
That is some quality bait. I was really close to falling for it.
>>81366203
C'mon man. GL:Rebirth ruined Hal's character arc. It's shit. That said, Johns' actual GL run is God-tier, and a good starting point to see if you like the character (you can find reading lists for it easily, or buy the omnibuses). If you like the character, you should try Wolfman's run, O'Neils original run, DeMatteis' Spectre (v4), Marz' run, GL: Mosaic, Jones' run, Last Will and Testament of Hal Jordan, and WillWorld.
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>>81372857
Because Lee is a bad artist
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>>81373267
>GL:Rebirth ruined Hal's character arc.
Who cares

His arc from Parallax to Spectre was good but it already lasted a fucking decade, he didn't deserve to have that baggage attached to him forever
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>>81356941

Fixing the Kid Flash costume and the new creative teams got me having a little hope for nuWally
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>>81373267
>stop liking things i don't like
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>>81358005
I really like her creepy eye, to bad her costume couldn't keep up

man I really liked Jessica, she was the way to add another human green ring slinger that didn't piss me right the fuck off
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>>81373618

That would imply he read the original.
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>>81373361
He should've redeemed himself via spectre-ness. The guilt would've made him more interesting.
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>>81373676
good point
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Has Power Girl regained her big tits and her boob window? Or are the SJWs still steering this ship?
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>>81373618
Not that. I meant not liking the new one. Also, not realizing that there's no chance in hell it's continuing post-Rebirth .(although maye that was a different anon?)
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>>81373731
She's trapped in Earth 2 so no.
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>>81373731
Yes, but then she was replaced by a black teenager (with small tits).
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>>81373752
>>81373772
Well then I have no reason to come back back back.

Power Girl is my nigga. But she is being twisted into a generic, bland background character.
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>>81373676
I have not, but I assume it's good. It's 80's DC cosmic, how could it not be?
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>>81373882
you're missing out. go read that shit, it's glorious

>>81373738
i realize there was no chance they'd continue the series after rebirth but one can still hope
and it's not that i don't like the series as a story it just doesn't really feel like it's the omega men
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>>81374018
Fair enough. I'll check it out.
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>>81356941
Anyone know what Cyborg will look like?

>Like he needs an update
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>>81374252
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>>81356941
>Jessica Cruz, craven coward
>joins an organization whose only per-requsite is that you aren't afraid

yeah ok
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>>81374398
bueno, thanks anon
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Wait I thought a new justice society or earth 2 book was coming out
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>>81374542
E2 is continuing
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>>81358066
That looks almost literally the same for decades.
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>>81356941
>they're bringing back "totally not a terrorist" Green Lantern
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>>81356941
Wondy's doing nothing for me. Likewise Supes. Bats looks fine, but I wouldn't want a Trinity that fit with him. Damien's silly but I like it in a Ninja Turtles way, Jon looks cute, Wally looks good, Harley looks ridiculous, is that Killer Croc, Jessica looks great, why the fuck does Simon have a gun.

>>81356953
>>81356986
>>81357000
>>81357012
Kara looks fine, I don't give a shit about Deathstroke, Arthur's passable but not as good as his last costume, Canary is rad.
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>>81375352
At least make him drop the fucking pistol. John uses construct guns all the time and its perfectly fine.
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>>81356953
>>81357000
>>81357012
>>81368469
disgosteng

i thought these were supposed to be improvements
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>>81375329
WHO DRAWS HEADS LIKE THAT


ARRRGGGHHHH
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>>81376013

For the hundredth time he has a reason for carrying the fucking thing.
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>>81376204
Then give him a holster so he isn't toting it gangsta style.
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>>81376295
he's wearing a holster
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>>81356986
Man, this is based. Thanks, Speedy.
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based wilkinson's design inspiring the new comic design
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>>81356941
I don't notice much of a difference but it's about time they aged Damian. He needs to get in some sexy hijinx with teenage girls.
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>>81378981
Damian is not for sexual
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>>81378981

Right. Girls. Sure anon.
>>
>>81356941
.Harley Quinn
Awful but I doubt this is her "standard" costume. She's been wearing lots of variations of her costume recently. It's probably just one of several.

>Swamp Thing...?
Pants? This is a disgrace.

>Batman
The yellow-lined bat is okay, I guess. The yellow-lined belt is just dumb tho.

>Superman
It's good they got rid of the collar and the belt is better, but goddamn those stupid fucking boots and MOS sleeve cuffs

>Wonder Woman
The cut of the skirt isn't great but overall I'm digging this

>Robin
ew

>Superboy...?
Not bad, kind of reminiscent of '90s Kon-El

>Kid Flash
Costume itself is fine, but it still feels stupid as fuck to revert the guy who had been The Flash for 20 years, so long that he wasn't thought of as just "that replacement Flash" but as "the MOTHERFUCKING Flash" to "Kid Flash." Like wtf might as well put Dick Grayson back in the fish-scale panties and act like the last few decades never happened. Literally the WORST retcon in comics.

Oh yeah I'm also supposed to complain that he's black I guess
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>>81380988
I think that is Killer Croc, not Swamp Thing
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>>81357698
thats what im expecting
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>>81378943
It wasn't even mandated. Rucka said he likes the movie costume and Liam Sharp happened to draw it so he told him to go with it.
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>>
You know /co/ it only just hit me.
>A new Blue Beetle title features Jaime Reyes teaming up with Ted Kord, who will mentor the young hero.
Must mean that pre-52 Ted is coming back. The post Flashpoint Ted we've seen isn't old enough/has never even been a hero.

and I thought my hype levels couldn't get any higher.
>>
>>81375305
action comics #1 (2011) and Son of Krypton are objectively best
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>>81358209
This might be for New 52 Superman, who I'm sure will keep appearing, right? Like even if Pa Clark is the Supes with solo titles, New 52 Clark can be a supporting character.
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>>81383064
This could result really confusing. I don't like the fact they're mixing these pre and post reboot characters. They just need to write the new ones in a better way (Snyder on Superman Unchained was ok).
I really hope New 52 Clark comes back as Superman ala Steve Rogers in Standoff.
>>
>>81357772
That they look dumb and dated
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>>81382739
Can't it just mean they retcon shit back in

We've seen literally three pages of the guy and looks young because Finch can only draw pretty feminine looking dudes if he can't draw massive hulking dudes.
>>
>>81383064
>>81383404

Pa Supes should have kept the beard.
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>>81382621
It's like I'm looking at a pic from deviantArt. The Colors aren't bad but that suit is way too busy.
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>>81357788
>This looked good
It looks like she's got a bloody maxipad on.
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>>81376038
Green Arrows definitely is.
Grell Arrow was the last good costume he had
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>>81356941
Can someone please explain to me what they're planning to do with Superman? Most of the solicits point to Superdad being this relaunch/reboot's Superman.

So my question is, what happened to the New 52 Superman? What about all the delicious Superman/Wondy fanservice?
Why is DC going back to using a character with no personality, after building an angsty kid into the man of Steel over the last 5 years?
>>
the only design that looks good is wonder woman's. the rest are fairly shit.
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>>81388175
Fuck off pleb, Post-Crisis Supes is best Supes.
>>
>>81388175
They want to regain all the readers they think they lost, and I say think because sold copies are always the same.
[MY OPINION]
There won't be any increase in the long term. This for 2 reasons: DC believes that everything said on forums and boards are true, when most of the people simply comment for the sake of writing, they didn't buy the comic before and they won't buy it now; the second reason is that they don't understand that the 22 monthly pages system is not attractive anymore. Stories need to be weekly (at least bi-weekly, so DC made a good choice) to fidelize the readers, since there are many other entertaining stuff they could look at.
>>
>>81375352
>implying he was a terrorist in 2011
>repeating /pol/ mantra outside of that shithole

18+
have sex
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>>81376204
NO HE DOESNT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>81389520
Yeah, he does. Read comics some day.
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>>81389520
Dumb frogposter.
>>
>>81356941
Who's the new Superboy?
>>
>>81389990
Jon White, pre-new 52 Superman and Lois's son
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>>81390016
Aha. That IS cool.
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>>81389177
Thank you. The numbers don't lie. It shows that no matter how angry a few neckbeards sound on the internet, DC has managed to keep its core fanbase happy.
>>
>>81391401
Or at least replace some of those old core fans with a new core, which is arguably better, loyalty be damned.
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>>81365596
Will be corrected. It's a line-wide relaunch indeed.
>>
>>81357788

Absolutely not.
>>
>>81388175

I'm so happy that my Clark and Lois are back and that Supes/Wondy is recognized as a horrible mistake.
>>
>>81396437
It's not Line Wide but it's darn close.
>>
>another reboot
>finally a chance to get Jason free from Lobdell's claws
>nope
>not only is the kike still murdering him, now he'll be in a shitty group of people in a comic that will flop

Fuck my life
>>
>>81401901
Sorry friend. Lobdell's Red Hood has just a big enough following to keep selling and it's basically the only place where he doesn't immediately tank sales.
>>
>>81359388
Fleischer and DCAU logos are the best
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>>81372509
Spyral is gone though. So there isn't going to be much to continue.
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>>81360471
>muslim lantern still carries a handgun even though he can create ANYTHING with his ring
Has that motherfucker shot anything since his ring got fixed?
>>
>>81360655
>Lian
Why on Earth would Roy's little girl be on a super team for at least 15 years? She should just be happy to be alive.
>>
>>81360655
They really should've done a Mas y Menos thing with the West kids.
>>
How long till one of the more major charachers are turned into a "minority"?

I'll say max 20 years and bats or super is black.
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>>81405497
Wonder Woman got turned into a ginger for a while.
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>>81357788
Yeah, fuck Tumblr, political correctness, and modern beta culture in general... but shit like this actually does make me embarrassed to read comic books.

Girl needs pants.
>>
>>81358414
Simon Baz exists to add a check mark to a box somewhere that will make a bunch of guilty white men feel better about themselves. It's like asking why nobody kills the Joker: because he makes a profit for the company. After a certain point, you can't just ascribe in-universe logic to certain things.
>>
>>81356941
Oh god what the fuck did they do to flash
>>
>>81356941
most of them are pretty ok to great. Kid Flash looks surprisingly real good, then again. That's literally just Bart's costume.
>>81356953
They literally just used the show suit and gave it brighter colors
>>81356986
It's... not bad? Sword is his classic sword funnily enough
>>81357000
Aquaman sorely needs his collar back, it made him look like royalty, which he is.
>>81357012
hawt, I love it.
>>81358411
I know a lot of people love the abs window but I am strangely aroused by this one.

>>81358209
From what I heard this was a proto-Design, ugh should have kept the boots color.
>>
>>81382350
What does the moon speak mean?
>>
>>81358414
Cool mask.
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>>81374398
>red
>not the based fucking blue
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>>81357138
"Rebirth" itself is a 80 page comic, but it's also the name of an almost complete relaunch that comes after that.
>>
>>81358209
It's just a proto-design for the new suit of the Pre-Flashpoint Superman.
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>>81359290
The first promo art for Rebirth had a silhouette of someone with classic Jay's helmet.

An Earth #2 Rebirth had been announced alongside everything else, but then it hasn't been mentioned at all afterwards, when they started revealing covers, solicits and creative teams.

http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2016/02/18/dc-entertainment-reveals-first-details-of-%E2%80%9Crebirth%E2%80%9D-to-retailers-at-comics-pro-2016
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>>81388175
>So my question is, what happened to the New 52 Superman?
There's no information about what happens to him.

Some people think he's the "Clark Kent" that shows up in Action Comics at the same time as the Pre-Flashpoint Superman. However, that isn't likely since that Clark Kent is meant to be a mystery for the arc.

Something probably will happen with him in Rebirth, so DC isn't revealing it to avoid spoilers. We know that by the time of the Action Comics renumbering Metropolis will have no Superman, which is why Lex takes the suit and Superdad becomes publicly active again.
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>>81356941
>harley's

I want her outfit. It's cute and just tacky enough that I'd wear it constantly.
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>>81358411
I-Is Helena not white? I'm not complaining, I just didn't realize that. I haven't followed any of her comics though so that might be why I'm thrown off. She doesn't usually look tan.
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>>81405789
You haven't seen people bitching about what happened to Wally West after FP? OP is what happened.
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>>81406438
What did they do to wally
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