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Press F to Pay Respects - Edition

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode (2x20 - Twilight of the Apprentice):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-bJu__WXmY

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Download links: (Check here for the newest episode + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
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>It's cold
>My feet hurt
>Nobody searched for me, or welcomed me back
>The closest thing to a friend I have is a damn purple ape
>I miss Inky...

F...
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Two F's for each cheek...

F F
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Third for Darth Filoni's Endgame
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F
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>>81349948
Anyone?
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>>81350085
But she's alive.
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Kylo Ren did nothing wrong.
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>>81350115
>top lop
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F

May the hat never come off.
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>>81350160
Shit, I just noticed. Thanks Clayton
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>>81350117
Anon, she's a ghost now, her spirit trapped forever by the power of the dark side within the ruins and ashes of Malachor.


>>81350136
Agreed.
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>>81349997
I think the season finale basically killed the show for me. It cemented that Disney/neoLucasArts is never going to do anything impactful if it gets in the way of maximizing profit.

I mean what happened to Ahsoka is directly related to the quality of the show and the quality of the storytelling and you know they left it open ended to bring her back later for $$$

Rebels was never that good anyway, but now that I know for sure nothing that interesting or "holy shit" is going to happen imma skip out on it.

cya star wars general
RIP porkins
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>>81350136
>Kylo will never show you the dark side
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>hera didn't die

only creepy fetishists like her. She should have died.
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>>81350160
Are we still pretending this isn't Snoke?
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>>81350136
>>81350267

Alright let's settle down
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Why was there a Jedi Temple Guard mask in a Sith temple for Kanan to grab?
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>>81350050
He misses having a big purple bara heater to warm up with.
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>>81350287
Hera and Sabine regularly drag the show down by being shit tier, out of place characters that don't belong in Star Wars and seemingly only exist because of Disney's feminazi power tripping of late.
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>>81350287
>only creepy fetishists like her
Not really, she's the Ghost crew's mother and I preffer Togrutas :^)
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>>81350136
Anon, one need only look at his fashion sense to scrape the surface of how wrong you are
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>>81350293
Where did this theory come from?
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>>81350325
One of the dead ancient Jedi had it on his corpse.
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>>81350325
Did you miss the whole thing about Jedi invading the Temple to fight the Sith? All those statues on Malachor were both Jedi and Sith, not just Sith only.

The real question is: why was the mask in such pristine condition compared to everything else?
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>>81350420
>Temple
>Guard
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>>81350136
>ruined everything Luke worked for

He did everything wrong and deserves death.
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>>81350117
She is "alive" as much as she is "dead".

Filoni says he is happy there are so many optimists that believe she is alive because of that last shot of her. But it's not an absolute in the slightest.

I personally believe that Filoni intends for this to be Ahsoka's end. He knows what happened to her. As far as Vader is concerned, she is dead. The rest of us don't get closure. That's how it is.

The Owl is important though...

>They’re actually called Convorees, named after Anne [Convery– Filoni’s wife], but that was back on Clone Wars when I named them that. They appeared first on the Wasskah arc when Ahsoka got kidnapped by the Trandoshans. So that’s where you would first see those types of birds, but I think birds – like many things in the galaxy – appear on different planets so you have different breeds of them. When they get to the Atollon moon, these creatures start appearing.

>I would tell you, though, that it is absolutely not an avatar of the Dark Side. Absolutely not. But, you know, we’ll have to see. You’re going down the rabbit hole now. You know me by now – it’s not accidental that this thing is flying around. It’s not accidental that it’s there, and it’s not accidental that it’s bizarrely on this completely different world at the end of that episode. It definitely has a meaning for me, as the storyteller. It’s a subtle thing that if you know what the owl represents, then it deepens the lore of the whole thing and you go, “Okay, there are things at work here that are beyond our reckoning.” In some ways, I could say that it’s a messenger, it’s an observer. It is definitely something. And I would suggest – I would rather have fans debate – but I would suggest to say that whatever that thing is an avatar of has actually appeared in the animated Star Wars universe before. So decrypt from there… Have a fun summer!
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>>81350429
>>81350420
Why would there be a Jedi Temple Guard in such a raid?
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>>81350105
Hahaha
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Is this canon?

https://youtu.be/X6oDItoMSh0
>best quality of the full thing with audio
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>>81350411
the asses of idiots
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>>81350446
>implying that wasn't Luke's plan all along
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>>81350455

>"In some ways, I could say that it’s a messenger, it’s an observer. It is definitely something. And I would suggest – I would rather have fans debate – but I would suggest to say that whatever that thing is an avatar of has actually appeared in the animated Star Wars universe before."

Why are we not talking about this!?

Its our fucking answer to Ahsoka!

The Sith Temple we see is the SAME DESIGN as the one in Mortis!

THE OWL IS AN AVATAR OF A CELESTIAL

AHSOKA REALLY IS A FUCKING GHOST THERE AT THE END, MORTIS SHOWED PLANETS SUPER STRONG IN THE FORCE CAN HAVE TRIPPY SHIT LIKE THAT BOUND TO THE PLANET

AHSOKA IS PERMANANTLY TRAPPED ON MALACHOR AS A FUCKING SPIRIT
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>>81350467
It was thousands of years ago. Do you really think the whole Guard system that we saw in TCW was the same back then? It may not have even been a guard; the descendants that use the masks could have morphed into the Guard system over time. Or, they set up the Guard system after the terrible defeat on Malachor to protect the Jedi Temple(s) from Sith invasion payback.
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>>81350455
Filoni loves making us feel pain.
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>>81350532
See
>>81350237


Called it
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>>81350504
Luke would never want his students to die.
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>>81350325
why the fuck did he put that on his face? Who knows what kind of diseases were in there? What a moron. He should have died from that.
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>>81350622
>Luke will never be your sensei
Why live
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>>81350582
Remember when Clone Wars was cancelled and once the trailers for Rebels started popping up, there were waves of complaints about how it'd be too cute and childish for the Star Wars canon? Remember how it was called a trashy kids show that could never live up to the legacy built by TCW?
What if all this turmoil was Filoni's punishment for us for not believing in Rebels?
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>>81350455
>Convoree, named after Feloni's wife Anne Convery
Huh. Always thought he was a permavirgin jerking it to cartoon waifus like the rest of us. Weird.
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>>81350532
>AHSOKA IS PERMANANTLY TRAPPED ON MALACHOR AS A FUCKING SPIRIT

No, please don't say shit like that. I've already lost too much, I can't deal with this.
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>>81350678
>Remember how it was called a trashy kids show that could never live up to the legacy built by TCW?
Remember how that still holds true even now?
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>>81350455
I assumed that the owl is Snoke's pet spying on everyone for him.It was mentioned that Snoke was around when Palpatine was in power.
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>>81350504
Are you implying that Snoke is the end result of Luke purging his darkness?
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>>81350455
haha more like
>I created the bird and I just wanted it there
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Alright my dudes, lets roll for George.

Pic related.
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>>81350678
>Remember how it was called a trashy kids show that could never live up to the legacy built by TCW?
it still hasn't and never will.
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>>81350726
Give it a rest, anon.
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>>81350735
Snoke is the Son?
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>>81350765
Rolling for Dave
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>>81350765
/a/ already got George Lucas
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>>81350765
>>>/a/139442614
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>>81350678
I never complained on the internet about that. HOW DOES HE KNOW? He truly is a dark lord of the Sith.
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>>81350806
>moment you have to manually adjust the lighting of the picture to see
Yes it's ""mature"" but it doesn't count to the average viewer that didn't even notice the actual wound on Kanan's face.
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>>81350765
Rolling for Dave Filoni.
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>>81350676
He'd be such a loving and supportive senpai. Also, shorter than his students :3
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>>81350748
He clearly says in that quote that it's in there and designed to look like an owl to invoke the same sort of meaning that owls have traditionally had in various real world mythology. Which is to say wisdom, careful observation, balance and justice
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>>81350850
Let it go. Your shitposting on a thread designed for Rebels.

Just let it go, bro.
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>>81350446
>Kylo made Luke cry

Screw killing his father or terrorizing Rey, this is Kylo's most egregious act.
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>>81350913
in reality owls are quite literally retards. So in a sense he's calling you a retard for caring about these birds and any deeper meaning other than he wanted one there.
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>>81350882
That's kawaii.
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>>81350850
It would seem that you think maturity is determined by how visibly grievous the violence is.
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>>81350532
Vader became the Dark Son, while Ahsoka became the Light Daughter.

Calling it right now.
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>>81351006
you seem to think that I care about your opinion.
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TELL ME ABOUT SNOKE! WHAT MAKES HIM SUPREME?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KECJT7uX6rE
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>>81351054
Whoa.
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>>81350987
That's not pottery and George would destroy him for such a notion. Star Wars is 100% mythology, everything has meaning and symbolism. The only retard here is you Ralph.
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>>81351073
Damn, you destroyed that bitch Tabitha.
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>>81350532
ITS FUCKING TRUE

MALACHOR IS A FORCE PLANET IN NEW CANON

The Owl was a fucking Celestial (how else could it be there, all life on Malachor was destroyed from the super weapon)

Ahsoka is literally dead at the end. She exists only as a spirit, likely because of the Celestial watching over her.

>B-But what if she is alive and just wanted to explore the temple!
Sorry fám, you need two, remember? She sure as shit knows this.

Its solved.

Ahsoka... Is dead.
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>>81351114
Lillie please.
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>>81350850
same with TFA to be honest
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>>81351104
>This blaster? It's broken
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>>81351195
WE CAN'T REPEL POETRY OF THAT MAGNITUDE
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>>81351195
I don't know how to feel about this.

I feel like crying...
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>>81351195
FUCK YOU, FILONI! AND FUCK YOU TOO, DWAYNE! ;.;
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>>81350117
>>81350455
>>81350532
>>81351195


I'm glad after GF ended, Rebels picked up the slack with batshit theories
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Got around to watching the finale. I now agree with Team Rocketfag from a few threads back.

>tfw ANOTHER Imperifu sacrificed to the canon.
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>>81351054
Ahsoka is a Force ghost.
I don't want to believe it, but it's the most likely scenario right now.
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>>81350814
I don't know.Snoke was the only problem I had with TFA.If he was around when Palpatine was in power how did Palpatine not know he existed ?
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>>81350535

or it was an all hands on deck scenario where they needed every last Jedi.
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>>81351440
>Ahsoka is a Force ghost.
So when did Qui-Gon teach her?
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>>81351440
Would her being affected by the Son's darkness have made her more likely to be on Malachor as well? Or would her being purified be the Sister get rid of that?
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>>81350393
Superior taste, my nigga
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>>81351440
>Force ghost
So technically, when they come out with a new version of the original trilogy, they'll have to put Ahsoka next to Obi, Yoda, and Hayden?
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I just now saw the season finale. I'm fucking dead. Holy shit. I'm fucking dead.
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>>81351440
I'm telling you absolute truth of it all: use your imagination :^)
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>>81351539
You don't need to be taught when the literal embodiment of the light side has been living in you to some degree.

>white lightsabers
It all makes sense now. Her crystals tuned to the white color because of the Daughter.
PURE light side energy.
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>>81351640
>I'm fucking dead. Holy shit. I'm fucking dead.
SS? Is that you?
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>>81351640
Should've flown better, Eight.
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>>81351625
No because she is trapped on the planet.
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>>81351539
She's not a ghost. She's an echo. Her cosmic force is being kept on Malachor due to the presence of the temple. She isn't a regular force ghost.
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I don't know, after the Maul ass pull coming back from the "dead," I can't rule out her being dead.

Didn't even see her get killed. Same with that other inquisitor that fell, bet he's alive too.

Maybe she's dead, maybe she's set on exploring the temple. Will probably come back corrupted dark side user and have the whole redemption arc cliche.
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So Ahsoka is a Force Ghost, or Spirit, but only visually existing/bound to Malachor, thanks to the Celestial that was watching over her.

Similarly to how Qui-Gon was bound to Mortis (until the end of TCW where he was finally able to communicate audibly with Yoda)

I can't fucking believe this, I am shaking if this is true.

I can't handle Ahsoka being gone.
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>>81351683
I'm still saying they should have just showm her get killed. Filoni basically copped out so he didn't have to animate Vader killing his waifu.

>>81351716
>Will probably come back corrupted dark side user and have the whole redemption arc cliche.
Sounds like a great idea for a comic entered around Luke as he tries to train as a Jedi after ESB. Having a run in with a Dark Side!Ahsoka and redeeming (and I guess her dying because of it) would make for a pretty good preperation for doing the same for his father.
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>>81351782
Pure speculation. Don't get to upset over some anons overthinking shit.
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>>81351877
Considering we have strong implications from Filoni about the Owl being a Celestials Avatar, and the fact that the Temples on Mortis and Malachor are quite literally identical, I think all signs are absolutely pointing towards this being true.

But of course, we will probably never get an answer, or at least not one for a long ass time if Filoni feels like ending our desperation and misery. (Or prolonging it)
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>>81351877
>>81351840
This. Interesting theory, but in the words of many, "Where's the body?"

Not showing her death explicitly lets them save her for future whatevers, like comics, movies, specials, a cameo in Kingdom Hearts, further seasons, etcetera
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>>81350535

>the descendants that use the masks could have morphed into the Guard system over time.

Jedi don't have descendants. They don't procreate.
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>>81351952
>Considering we have strong implications from Filoni about the Owl being a Celestials Avatar
Didn't he basically say "neat idea but I don't think it's an avatar"?
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>>81351782

Whatever stated that Qui-Gon was bound to Mortis? Maybe I'm just not remembering something from that arc. I don't like the idea of Force Ghosts being "bound" to things, though. I feel like that goes against what else there is that's been established.
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>>81352059
The opposite:

Read this >>81350455
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>>81352037
I didn't mean it in a literal sense. At the time I couldn't think of a better word
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>>81352083
Nothing is stated. But he only ever visually appeared on Mortis.

When he spoke to Yoda, he was just a disembodied voice. It's clear Qui-Gon wasn't taught/didn't master becoming a Force Ghost.

But on Mortis, a planet incredibly powerful in the Force, he was able to manifest himself visually, and appear to Obi-Wan.

I believe Ahsoka is now in the same situation, but on Malachor.
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>>81351195
Damn, son, Lothal has a Jedi Temple and an apparent inordinate amount of kyber crystals in it's crust and it isn't a Force planet like Mortis. Dagobah, which to our knowledge has no temples, is strong in the Force and one of the purest such places Yoda had felt.

As for your owl theory, I hate to break this to you but Maul had been managing to live on the world for some time. He was eating your precious omens, anon. Which, it should be pointed out, was watching VADER limp away so in your theory Vader is now the undead spirit.

The temple weapon malfunctioned and eliminated both sides on the battlefield, not "all life on the planet." Filoni talks about the owl species. If Ahsoka is a ghost you just made her immortal. If she's a vision the only thing the vision is showing you is that she's alive (oops!). As for two exploring the temple, the temple EXPLODED. She's traveling underground. There were three Inquisitors on that planet and Maul only stole one of their TIEs.

Checkmate, Dwayne
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>>81352091
Yeah, you're reading too much into it. He's not "heavily implying the owl is an avatar" at all.
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>>81351782
Force Ghosts don't work that way, and are also blue, translucent, and glow.
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>>81352083

>Whatever stated that Qui-Gon was bound to Mortis?

It wasn't. Qui-gon was more or less able to visually present himself because Mortis was ridiculous force mojo, I forget the way he put is specifically. But it was basically easy-mode for force ghosts there. Anywhere else he shouldn't be able to manifest himself on a visual level on account of not completing the priestess' training.
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>>81352158
>I would suggest to say that whatever that thing is an avatar of has actually appeared in the animated Star Wars universe before.
What else is it then? He's obviously referring to TCW here.

What possibly else in TCW is the Owl?

Unless its the damn Changeling alien, I can't think of a single other thing the Owl could be an "Avatar of".

We have also established that the Temples on Mortis and Malachor are identical.

So.....

Maybe the theory isn't 100%, but I believe that we are certainly on the right track by looking at Mortis and its lore.
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>>81352181
Only normal force ghosts are like that.
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>>81351716
Filoni said that Eighth Brother died from the fall, but they originally had a scene they cut where the temple's weapon turns him to stone while racing against Maul for his TIE Fighter.
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>>81352263
Those ARE the only ghosts. Nothing else can survive after death. The Inquisitor was a vision. Mortis existed within the realm of the Force itself, i.e. vision country.
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>>81352151

>As for your owl theory, I hate to break this to you but Maul had been managing to live on the world for some time.

Darth Maul can't have been there for long if the Eight Bro got there the same day as Kanan, Ezra and Ahsoka.

Also, Sith Lords don't need to eat. They sustain themselves entirely on the dark side.
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>>81352151
Maul brought a packed lunch obviously. Just like his mommy used to make it.
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>>81350806
So was Kanan blinded in both eyes or does the left eye has a chance of survival?
It implies both eyes were lost but from this pic it seems only the right eye was cut
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>>81352306
Priestresses, Bane
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>>81352151
How do you explain the identical Shrine/Temple stuff?

Sure as hell aint a coincidence mayne
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>>81352375
You're forgetting the Emperor sensed shit was going down on Malachor. He sent in one of the Inquisitors, his "hunting dogs," to investigate. Apparently he didn't sense Maul, only something they were calling the "shadow." When the Inquisitors reported shit was going down with multiple Jedi, Maul, and the Holocron they called in Big Daddy Vader.

>Also, Sith Lords don't need to eat. They sustain themselves entirely on the dark side.

Well that's a fine crock of bullshit you've been stirring for us. The Force can be used to sustain life but not indefinitely. Darth Maul, even as a crazy cyborg spider, was being fed by that one snake bastard.
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>>81352453
Bane was a vision that Yoda bitchslapped. The Priestesses ARE Force Ghosts of the type Yoda was trying to become. When one revealed her true form she revealed that the robes were empty. All she was was clothing and a mask. That's the entire goddamn point of that arc, teaching Yoda how to become like her, but the right way that Qui-Gon fucked up.
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>>81352440
>So was Kanan blinded in both eyes or does the left eye has a chance of survival?

Maul hit both. His eye sockets are empty now.
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>>81352453
Priestesses maybe, but Bane wasn't a ghost
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>>81352457
Re-using assets.
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>>81352457
Oh no, are you saying a place that was composed of Force visions couldn't look like an ancient shrine or temple? Even assuming it was real Anakin and Obi-Wan and co. were lured in by a 2000 year old Jedi Distress Code. So there you go, ancient architecture from ancient Sith/Jedi.

Sith and Jedi share an origin. Sith were once Dark Jedi. Don't be surprised that some of their taste in aesthetics run the same as their love of lightsabers and robes, and the same basic force powers.
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>>81352453
Bane was a Spectre, an imprint of his former self, left to guard his tomb.

The scary thing is.... This is exactly what Ahsoka could be right now... And imprint, a shadow, conjured by the Celestial, to guard the temple.

I'm getting spooked guys, this fate of Ahsoka makes me uncomfortable.
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>>81352612
>Bane was a Spectre, an imprint of his former self, left to guard his tomb.
No, he was an illusion created by the Priestesses to test Yoda. They outright say this.
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Filoni put an emphasis on the light-dark/underworld-overworld of the last episode.

Maul was waiting for an opportunity to leave and rose to the overworld, Ahsoka lost her opportunity to kill Vader and descended to the underworld in Exile like Maul.

I don't think Ahsoka is dead, but I don't think we'll ever see her again, she realises that to stay with the rebels would draw Vader to her. So she stays in the temple in self imposed exile until the force presents an opportunity.

It leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
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>>81352528
Then they will just make a new one. The force isn't an exact science and can't be devided into concrete categories.
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>>81352612
>Bane was a Spectre, an imprint of his former self, left to guard his tomb.
But he wasn't. The was no Bane ghost, it was an illusion.
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>>81352646
It also shouldn't be bent from what we've explicitly seen just to support bullshit theories. Ahsoka being a ghost created by Mortis Force gods is a nice bit of speculation with nothing concrete to back it up.
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>>81352631
>>81352659

I will have to rewatch that episode then...

My post still stands though, about it not being a real, living Ahsoka.

I don't think Filoni is that cruel though. Even IF she is dead and/or bound to Malachor in some way, he wont ever let there be a fake Ahsoka. She'll still have her consciousness, if she appears again.

R-Right?
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>>81352472
>You're forgetting the Emperor sensed shit was going down on Malachor. He sent in one of the Inquisitors, his "hunting dogs," to investigate.

I'd believe that if it weren't for Darth Maul carrying an Inquisitor lightsaber. That to me implies the Inquisition's been after him for a while. If Maul had been on Malachor this whole time killing every Inquisitor that came, I think Vader would've came a long time ago.

So yeah, I'm not convinced that Maul's been there all that long.

>Well that's a fine crock of bullshit you've been stirring for us.

LOTS loosely implies that Vader and Sidious don't even bother with eating anymore. So with that in mind, why would Maul?
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>>81352727
>LOTS loosely implies that Vader and Sidious don't even bother with eating anymore.
I don't remember this at all.
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>>81352699
>nothing concrete
Come on anon, the identical temples and the possibly-Celestial Owl ARE evidence. Perhaps not enough for you to personally believe the theory, but you cant outright deny it altogether.
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>>81352612
>guard his tomb
But wasn't canon Bane killed by Jedi? Why would they bury him on Moraband even?
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>>81352757
I think his point is that there's a difference between "well that's nice but there's no real proof" and "OMG 100% CONFIRMED THIS IS UNDENIABLE!"
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>>81350958
>Kylo made Luke cry
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>>81352727
Maul could acquire that part of his saber at any time, not just on Malachor. If Maul hadn't told the truth about his ship crashing he would have used his ship, not stolen the Inquisitors. Unlike Vader's those don't have hyperdrives.
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>>81352764
I don't think we know how he died in canon yet. Either way, it was probably his apprentice that put him in the tomb.
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>>81352037
No but they're are families where the force is more prevalent and thus force users pop up more often among those blood lines. Many Jedi often have a cousin or niece/nephew join the order as well.

The whole Skywalkers debacle, Plo Koon had a niece, Yoda had Yoder, etc.
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>>81350160
Why is his nose so Jewish?
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>>81352757
That's people seeing what they want to see. Problem is the owls were in TCWs too and NOT in the Mortis arc. Temples looking vaguely similar means absolutely nothing in a realm where it can look like however it wants.
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>>81352778
I think its the most plausible theory so far to be honest.

Of course, maybe we're just trying to find an answer where there is none, and it was all just 2deep4u symbolism, and Ahsoka is dead/alive depending on viewer interpretation, as Filoni intended. Which is ok too, I guess. But it's understandable people crave definitive answers, and this theory at least is one that makes sense with some actual evidence of substance.
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>>81352787
Wow cheers to who ever made this.
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>>81352813
>Yoda had Yoder,
Uh
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>>81352825
Why are your eyes so racist?
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>>81352791
I thought that was explicitly stated to be one of the benefits of those new Inquisitor TIE fighters.
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>>81352812
Wookiepedia does though.
> To rectify this, Bane reformed the Sith and created the Rule of Two, mandating that there could be only two Sith—a Master and an apprentice—at any given time. These new Sith would begin a plot to destroy the Jedi in secret. Bane was later defeated by the Jedi, who wrongly believed that the Sith were defeated with him.
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>>81352753

>I don't remember this at all.

It was at one of the breaks the Sith and the two royal guards had while trudging on Ryloth. It might've been the one where they were both meditating. Sidious outright let the two guards have the rations they had. The Sith touched none of it.
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>>81352872
Most plausible theory is that she lived along with everyone else. Maul survived the explosion and escaped with the Inquisitor's TIE after the Phantom got back to base. Vader survived and had a minor enough limp. But Ahsoka is rendered into some kind of canonically dubious "specter" concept someone pulled out of his butt based on an owl that was actually observing Vader, not her.
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>>81352915
The funny thing is that their source for this is an outdated version of the official site's databank, since one of the Wook's weird quirks regarding the new canon is that they consider even past, pre-2014 versions of the databank to be canon.

Granted, the Jedi killing him would explain how they know about him, but it's not official yet.
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>>81352909
No. No shields either. This is why Kanan and Ezra were stuck and needed a pickup as much as Sabine, Hera, and Zeb during the season 1 finale. They had to dock the same as the others with Chopper's gozanti.
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>>81352942
>It was at one of the breaks the Sith and the two royal guards had while trudging on Ryloth. It might've been the one where they were both meditating. Sidious outright let the two guards have the rations they had. The Sith touched none of it.
Okay, that's a huge stretch to read "they don't ever have to eat" out of that.
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>>81352900
>>81352825

Ezra's middle eastern. He's literally space Aladdin.
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>>81353015
I just like it better that he is killed by his own rule of two.
I like to think that he was defeated by his apprentice immediately prior, and left alive as a lure for Jedi by his apprentice to make them believe he is the only one left.
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>>81352757

> identical temples

Only the internal altar was the same, and it's not impossible for powerful sith/jedi to have visited Mortis and seen the architecture, then been inspired to build in a similar style. The Celestials are the closest things to force gods that exist, of course force-users would have sought to emulate them - and we have proof of contact between the two long ago, because the Celestials used an old Jedi distress signal to summon the gang to Mortis in TCW.

And of course there's the possible mundane explanation of them just reusing assets to save money
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>>81352900
yeah well, that's just like... your opinion, man
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I really shouldn't be feeding the crackpot theories but why not.

Ahsoka "died" on Mortis but was resurrected using the life force of the Daughter. Therefore Ahsoka had her Living Force replaced with the Daughter's Cosmic Force that otherwise rendered her immortal except for some silly magic dagger.

Therefore Ahsoka is

immortal

some kind of hybrid Force entity and beyond the rules of the normal galaxy

Mortis was just a vision so she never really died and this is all bs.
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>>81353141
>arguing with Jeff Bridges

Dude, come on. Don't be an asshole. Jeff Bridges called you out, take it like a man.
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>>81353073

I suppose it is. But it kinda' makes sense though. Vader obviously can't drop trou and take a dooku. And with Sidious being Emperor, it works totally to his advantage by avoiding poison or someshit.

>the dark side is a pathway to abilities many would call unnatural.
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>>81352977
At the end of the previous episode, the Owl is circling Ahsoka. Then at the end of the Finale, it flies into smoke, and bam, smoke fades, ahsoka.

Filoni says the owls are important, man. I think it was watching over Ahsoka the entire time, knowing what was happening, what would happen.

I personally think it is a Celestial, because Filoni didn't want Ahsoka to die alone...
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We literally saw a force vision of Adult Ahsoka on Mortis - dressed differently, for sure, but this might lend credence to the idea that her older self can now manifest through the force like Qui-Gon.
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>>81353285
Looking at that, I'm glad she turned out like she did in Rebels.
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>>81353126
Mortis lured them in with an ancient Jedi Distress signal that was stated to be 2000 years old. Tarkin novel states that 1000 years ago the Sith were supposedly rendered extinct. This was the last galaxy wide war since the formation of the Republic (according to that minister on Naboo). After the sith/jedi wars the republic reformed itself into it's current state that had lasted 1000 years (the Republic as a political state has existed far longer, but 1000 years ago it saw it's transformation into an incarnation that lasted until the declaration of the Empire).

So 2000 years ago the Sith and Jedi were still at each other's throats. Super weapons were deployed according to Yoda. Malachor had one such weapon.

Basically this means it's conceivable that the Mortis stuff, if it was real, was based on Jedi/Sith architecture from that same time period as Malachor's temple. Or just looked like it if it was a vision and drawing from their own ancient legends.
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>>81353178
>Her lekku will eternally getting thicker

Unf.
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>>81353219
>Vader obviously can't drop trou and take a dooku
That's what colostomy bags are for.
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>>81353238
Owls appeared next to Zeb, so is he twice the magical Force "specter" now or do these Celestials just dig his tunes?
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>>81353238
That owl was circling Ezra.
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>>81353399
OBVIOUSLYYYYYY, they were trying to tell him he needs a buddy, so he can go get Kallus to join the Rebels.

Season 3 will show you Brenda, season 3 will show you.
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>>81353375
Filoni truly love her and us.
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>>81353219
That machine that puts his helmet on serves many purposes I bet.
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>>81352637
I don't think Ahsoka would do that. Pretty sure she's dead. Otherwise your assessment of the themes and mythology are spot on though.
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>>81353511

Mayhaps. I suppose it could have more arms and such.

Also, is the new layout pissing only me off?
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>>81353645
Is a joke brah.
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>>81353645
>Also, is the new layout pissing only me off?
its an April fools about Moot going to google

but yes its shit
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Clever.
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>>81349997
You're dumb if you don't think she's still alive. Filoni doesn't have it in him to kill her.
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Anyone else find it weird that Disney is having Filoni change the direction Rebels is going in specifically so that it can lead smoothly into Rogue One, a project that they seem so damn sure about that they want everyone to know it'd definitely going to happen, yet they won't actually SHOW us anything of it besides the title and a brief description?
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>>81353758
POTPOURRI
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>>81353552
>I don't think Ahsoka would do that
After witnessing that there isn't anything she can do for her master?
I dunno.
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>>81353791
I don't know anon. A movie about the Rebellion's biggest victory tying in with a show about the fledgling rebellion? Sounds crazy!
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>>81353758
Poddery
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>>81353758
Fucking hell


>>81353791
Even moreso, I feel like the show has dramatically changed for the better since The Force Awakens came out and they've started including all these little connections to it like the crossguard lightsaber. Like the show finally became what it was supposed to and everything else before was just filler trash. I wonder if the show is going to end up being like Agents of Shield where every time a new movie comes out the show has tie in stuff going on?
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>>81353791
It's hype.
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>>81353092

I'm glad I'm not the only who noticed this
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>>81353791
>Anyone else find it weird
Why is it weird? Disney are the biggest jews and probably one of the evilest companies on the planet.

Did you know they tell their employees to pay legal fees for them to do shit like go extend copyright?

Once you take something away from the creator you lose the part where more than just the bottom line matters.

Lucas fucked a lot of SW up pretty badly, but you know that as the creator he probably cared about it a lot.

Disney doesn't care about it outside of $$$$

Why do you think Rebels looks like fucking Reboot? Gotta get them shekels
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>>81353991
I really like that pic, Julius.
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>>81352900
How can racism be real if our eyes aren't real?
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>>81353092
Lothalian NIIIIIIIGHTS.
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>>81350532
>>81351195
I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE TRUE, BUT IT MAKES TO MUCH SENSE!
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>>81352727
>LOTS loosely implies that Vader and Sidious don't even bother with eating anymore. So with that in mind, why would Maul?

So you make an assumption out of a loose implication concerning a character whom we don't really know what he had been doing during the past weeks/months/year or what the extent of his power really is ?

I'm not even particularly against that theory but you must admit that it clearly lacks evidence.

This is really tiring to see people taking their theories or what they assume to be true for granted.
See "Seem", "Look like", "Maybe", Perhaps", "If" and tons of other words and expressions that are great to nuance theories.

I don't like to rant like that but I just think it's important to distinguish what's clearly established in the canon and what's not even if both are great to talk about.
Sorry for being that grumpy anon.
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>>81353758
FUCK Ahsoka has such perfect bj lips
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>>81353758
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>>81354232

You think she was born with those dick-sucking lips? No! She sucked endless dick for years!
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>>81354004
greetings ben, if you're having some trouble call our toll free number, thank you
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>>81354238
hope i get this feeling with rouge one
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>>81354110
>>81354003

Like I pointed out a few threads ago.

>Ezra = Aladdin
>Ezra was street rat
>Sith holocron = Lamp
>Sabine = Jasmine
>Sabine is Mandalorian
>Darth Maul = Jafar
>Maul once ruled Mandalore

I think Filoni said that Mandalore will pop up in some form or another in Season 3. So yeah, I think there's going to be alot more Aladdin parallels to come.
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>>81353791
Where did they say this? You another fuck head who can't do research and spout misinformation?
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>It's a Luke vs Vader "This Is Madness"
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>>81354308
That's what they are aiming for
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>>81354368
Forgot pic
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>>81354347
At least Luke is going to have a shot at this, though I'm annoyed that the dark side finalist is going to be Vader, again.
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>>81354315
So will he set the Sith lady free at the end?
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>>81354403
Who was light side last year?
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>>81354004

Lucas DEFINITELY cared about Star Wars a lot. It's why he made unpopular decisions: he believed it was genuinely important to put his artistic vision out there and complete the story.

It's also why The Clone Wars looked absolutely gorgeous in the later seasons: Lucas was willing to blow a million dollars an episode to ensure that each story got the production quality it deserved.

His wisdom may be questionable, but his love is a certainty.
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>>81354401
Anon please, I can only get so aroused.
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>>81354434

Obi-Wan.

It's part of why Vader won last year: Obi-Wan had already won the year before.

It's also probably part of why Luke will win this year: Obi-Wan's already won once and been the finalist twice.
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>>81354434
Obi-Wan. The finals have broken down like this:
2013: Yoda vs Vader, Yoda wins
2014: Obi-Wan vs Vader, Obi-Wan wins
2015: Obi-Wan vs Vader, Vader wins
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>>81354403

If it's any consolation, I voted Kylo Ren in hopes that Vader wouldn't be the finalist for four years in a row.
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>>81354465
Here's one more
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>>81354503
How disgusting
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>>81354347
LUKEFU2016
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>>81354476
>>81354501
>Final battle of last contest was Obi-Wan vs Vader
>Now it's Luke vs Vader
THE POTTERY NEVER ENDS
I WANT OFF
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>>81354503
If anyone had a shot it was Kylo. I'm not surprised he's losing to Vader, but given that he's the new hotness and the most popular character out of the newest movie I'm surprised he's losing by as much as he is. I expected it to be close, not a total curbstomp.
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>>81354347
Whoever loses, we win
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>>81354401

when I first heard of Rebels, I thought this would be what we would be getting, but nope
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>>81354559
But anon, he can't bring himself to beat his Vaderfu
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>>81354315
Can't wait for Maul on Sabine action then.
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>>81354558

It's even better when you consider the final battle in the contest before last was also Obi-Wan vs Vader, and Obi-Wan won that one.

So 2014 was Mustafar, 2015 was the Death Star, and now the only question is whether 2016 is Bespin or the Death Star II.
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>>81354594
Getting closer. I think next season might end up being much more war and battle centric.
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>>81353758
I knew that sentence was said somewhere before
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>>81354629
THE WILD RIDE NEVER ENDSAFHILASFKDL:ASJKALFK"SAA
:safln[dsak
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I really wish KOTOR becomes canon again, you know why?

besides being about a time where there was a thousand Jedi and Sith fighting, there is a line Bastila says to the player before leaving Taris, "The force is in all of us..."

She was describing that force sensitives are people who are just more in tune with the force than others, but the force does indeed exist in everyone even if its only a whisper for most. This alone makes the mythology of Star Wars feel bigger than the PT made it out to be like.
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All this crazy talk in the thread and nobody touched on the batshit craziest of them all. Anons, we have to go deeper.

Filoni has distracted you guys with owls. The key, however, was BIRDS. What is a bird? A phoenix. What was Ahsoka Tano a member of? Phoenix Squadron. Who was she in Phoenix Squadron? Fulcrum. What is a fulcrum? "A thing that plays a central or essential role in an activity, event, or situation."

Sabine has been painting phoenix symbols which is reminiscent of the not yet existing Rebel Alliance symbol, and she just happens to hook up with Phoenix Squadron. But the Alliance symbol is red. Sabine's are orange. Who else is orange? Ahsoka motherfracking Tano, bitches.

But Sabine was inspired to paint those symbols by a painter using his art to protest the Empire. The Empire stopped him but why did they do that? That just made him a martyr and spread his symbols further. No, that dude was actually a Force sensitive. He wasn't painting protests against the Empire, he was painting VISIONS.

He foretold how an orange Phoenix would rise from her (seeming) death from the ashes (of Malachor) and it would lead to the Empire's doom.

Deep enough for you? I hope not because we're going even deeper, bitches! Continued!
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>>81354766
How deep do you like it, kids? We're thrusting this home all the way!


Luke is horrified to learn his dad is Vader. Somehow after he starts to think that his dad is still good. When did he start sensing the good in his dad? When he learned what kind of man his dad really. Not the childlike worship of the Knight he thought Anakin was from what little Ben told him but the true man himself. He had to learn about Anakin Skywalker. Ben could tell him but Obi-Wan is trying to steer him away from sentiment and surely wouldn't feed it.

No. There is another source. The Fore leads Luke to Ahsoka. She tells him of the man Anakin was. It's these stories that allow him to see beneath the darkness of Vader to what is left of Anakin inside the black armor. She also completes Luke's training which is why Yoda says he doesn't need to learn anymore.

Where did Luke gain his green crystal? Not from Obi-Wan, both he (briefly thanks to Boba Fett) and Vader searched the place. No, he got the crystal from Ahsoka. It's from her original green saber which she doesn't use now that she has her white ones.

Ahsoka plays the fulcrum again, the point upon which the galaxy pivots. It is her love and Luke's that save's Anakin, and her saber crystal that defeats Vader and provides the crucial reminder to Luke how he has an artificial limb like his father, that he could easily become Vader, that makes him deny the Emperor victory.

Boom, bitches.
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>>81354753
You don't need KOTOR for that. Yoda says that in ESB. Hell, Ben says that in ANH.
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>>81352015

Yeah basically Ahsoka right now is both alive and dead.. until she is ether needed to be confirmed dead or needed to be confirmed alive.
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>>81354753
You that single line means KOTOR needs to be canon? Even though that's an idea that's been around since the original movies and Bastila is just repeating it?
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>>81354800
Ahsoka gave her Lightsabers to the council when she left, she didn't have them. Furthermore Luke FELT the good in Vader through the Force in his longing to have his son join him, he did not to be told anything. She's dead and has no bearing on Luke's destiny or Anakin's redemption.
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Now that season 2's wrapped up, what do you want to see from season 3?
Any particular characters, locations, situations?
We already know Lando's coming back, at least.
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>>81354800
>She also completes Luke's training which is why Yoda says he doesn't need to learn anymore.

But Luke's training wasn't complete. He fought worse than Kanan has so far.
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Oh shit. FPJ replied.

I think we're getting somewhere.
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>>81353758
Confirmed then: Ahsoka to appear in Episode VIII and IX as a Kreia-like figure guiding Rey and Kylo into adopting a neutral stance.
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>>81354922
R2 and C-3PO meet Chopper and his depressed new friend. Needs to happen. Also, Vader killing Maul.
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>>81354922
either Vader or Sheev finally putting maul out of his misery
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>>81354917
>Ahsoka gave her Lightsabers to the council when she left

Nope. She lost them. She dropped one after she escaped prison and she dropped the other during her fight with Barris.
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>>81354938
Completed enough for Yoda's purposes, which is all that matters.

Also Luke fought worse than Kanan? Has Kanan cut off Vader's hand yet? Even if Vader's heart wasn't in the fight the Emperor never commented on him throwing that fight.
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>>81354953
>I think we're getting somewhere.
Unfortunately Filoni doesn't tell Freddie anything. Or anyone else for that matter.
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>>81355014

>Even if Vader's heart wasn't in the fight the Emperor never commented on him throwing that fight.

Even still, Kanan's shown a better degree of Technique than Luke did in ROTJ. And Vader's heart not being in the fight is entirely why Luke came out on top. Not because of Luke's martial prowess, or the lack thereof to be more accurate. If Vader wanted to kill Luke, he'd have done so easily.
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>>81355125
>And Vader's heart not being in the fight is entirely why Luke came out on top.
That's a certain point of view. If Vader's heart wasn't in the fight he wouldn't have needed to wait until the last minute to kill the Emperor. The pivotal moment is that until Anakin makes the choice to save Luke he is still the Dark Lord of the Sith.

Luke won because he tasted the Dark Side, gave in to his pain, his fear, and his anger, and his hatred. That's why when Luke sees Vader's ravaged hand, the reminder of how alike he is to his father, Luke pulls back.
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>>81355202
Still the Dark Lord of the Sith who doesn't want to kill his son
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Anyone else find that the series was really kind of, well shit.
The only ones that stood out where two best bros in the cave, and then this episode.
I mean its a fucking great episode but literally every other one was filler.
Like fillers fine and all, but it was too much filler.
Plus maul could've been thrown in earlier. Show him hooded following the ghosts, obsessed with making Ezra his apprentice.

That said; I really hope Ezra opening the holocron leads him to seeking out maul.
Also liking the actual consequences for once, Ahsoka is TOTALLY NOT DEAD (She is) and Kanan gets fucking turned into a blind monk.
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>>81354753

DID YOU KNOW THAT: This is already true, even with the PT?

>ANAKIN: What are midi-chlorians?
>QUI-GON: Midi-chlorians are microscopic life forms that reside within all living things.
>ANAKIN: They live inside me?
>QUI-GON: Inside your cells, yes, and we are symbionts with them.
>ANAKIN: Symbionts?
>QUI-GON: Life forms living together for mutual advantage. Without the midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to us, telling us the will of the Force. When you learn to quiet your mind, you'll hear them speaking to you.

The Clone Wars expanded on this to explain that all life creates the Living Force, just like Obi-Wan said in ANH. When a living thing dies, all is removed and passes into the Cosmic Force. The Cosmic Force, in turn, feeds back into all living things through the midi-chlorians to make life possible.

So, in canon, the Force is in all living things, to some extent. Life creates the Force and the Force creates life, in an eternal cycle. The two are inseparable: you can't have life without the Force, or the Force without life.

Jedi may have more midi-chlorians per cell, but this is simply the difference between a small ensemble whispering and a choir singing out for all the world to hear.
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>>81354559
Normies don't like Kylo as much as internet autists
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>>81355306
You try this every thread, Cynthia. Are you not tired of this?
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>>81355229
Again, that's your interpretation and you're welcome to it. But if you keep saying Vader doesn't want his son dead you have to account for

WHY BRING LUKE TO THE EMPEROR

If Vader is such a good guy now why bring his son to the one place where he will either be corrupted or destroyed?

Vader himself hadn't even decided to kill the Emperor and was perfectly capable of watching Luke be electrocuted for some time before finally intervening. The conflict was there but it wasn't so strong yet that Vader threw the fight and let his own life be forfeit for his failure.
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>>81355332
I've never been in this thread before.
No joke, just came here because I wanted to talk about the finale that I just watched.
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>>81355316
He actually did a lot better in this kind of tournament than I thought he would. But he's up against fucking Vader, the most beloved character of the whole series. Who would expect it to turn out any other way?
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>when you realized you spent hours arguing with a literal retard about a childrens cartoon

I need to stop doing this. I'm going to do it again tomorrow
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>>81355368
Why did he defend the Emperor? He could have just been too slow on the draw. The Emperor trusted Vader to defend him against Luke. That is not the actions of a man who senses that his top bitch is having serious career doubts.
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>>81355308
>When a living thing dies, all is removed and passes into the Cosmic Force. The Cosmic Force, in turn, feeds back into all living things through the midi-chlorians to make life possible.
So the Cosmic Force is the Lifestream, and the Jedi are the Ancients. Got it.
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>>81355368
>The conflict was there but it wasn't so strong yet that Vader threw the fight and let his own life be forfeit for his failure.

Except that's exactly what I think happened. If Vader's shit was straight, Luke's little dark side tantrum wouldn't have lasted two seconds.
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>>81355482
And yet it did. The goodness inside Vader wasn't strong enough to act to help Luke until Luke's life was nearly extinguished.

He wasn't trying to commit suicide via his son. He wasn't 86% good again only for Luke to push him the rest of the way. For that scene where Vader finally dies and Anakin is reborn to have full merit you have to truly believe that Vader is still capable of letting Luke die. Otherwise you dull the impact of that scene. Luke didn't defeat Vader he just beat the shit out of his dad who was actually starting to be won over to Luke's side. And that's a fucked up frame of reference, anon.
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>>81354347
THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE LUKEFU

VADER A SHIT
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>>81355561
I still choose to believe that Luke actually beat Vader, not that Vader subconsiously let him win. Becasue if the latter is the case, then it kinda dulls the whole thing with Luke tapping into Dark Side
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>>81353991
If this happens I'm gonna cry at the cinema. It will be a first but I'll definitely do it.
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>>81355561

Yet regardless; You can't possibly expect me to believe that knowing what Vader is capable of, Luke was skilled and powerful enough (even with some dark side backing him up) to beat Vader, unless something was seriously wrong on Vader's part. Considering Vader's immense skill and godlike power with the force, and Luke's short, bare-bones training. Vader's wavering feelings are the only acceptable explanation as to why he didn't slap Luke's shit all around that observation deck as opposed to what actually happened.
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>>81355561
I'd add to this that if Vader let's the Emperor kill Luke, as he was about to, that's just as evil as doing it himself. It's an act of omission.

This is why Vader doesn't get a moral pass on Alderaan just because Tarkin was the one who ordered them to fire when ready.
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What are the chances that Disney commissions a "dark" Rebels spin-off that focuses on a band of Imperial customs agents trying to hunt down a Rebel pirate band in the Outer Rim?
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>>81350107
Nice hat on the one one the left, looks witchy and like a leaf.
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>>81355943
Vader isn't an unstoppable murder machine. He isn't immortal and he sure as hell isn't indestructible. He can make mistakes and be injured. He can actually fail. He was blindsided by Han Solo at the Death Star, tricked into his own team's tractor beams by Hera, and Ahsoka managed to actually breach his helmet. The comics are also all about how he's more of a weapon, better in the hands of others, and how he's trying to step up. But even by ESB his command abilities are largely down to murdering his own officers and getting his own Star Destroyers destroyed by asteroid fields.

This is not the godlike being you think it is, anon. I'm sorry.
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>>81355989
That's a stupid opinion. Where do you draw the line, faggot? Is it somehow my fault I didn't stop your father from raping you nightly?

Idiot.
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>>81356045
I was really hoping Rebels season 3 would be Ezra as Maul's apprentice. Like a dark mirror of the past 2 seasons of his tutelage under a Jedi.
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Y'all are forgetting that Vader brought Luke up to DSII to become his or Sheev's apprentice. If Vader wanted Luke dead, Luke would be dead. If Luke joins Vader, they can rule as father and son; if Luke kills Vader, he can replace Vader as Sheev's newer, better apprentice.

Vader only turned on Sheev when Luke was being electrocuted because that was the only time Luke's life was in danger.
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>>81356136
Jesus Christ, Francine, you've seem been through some shit. You don't need 4chan, you need to seek actual professional help.
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>>81356116

>Vader isn't an unstoppable murder machine.

To anyone that isn't a main protagonist, he actually kind of is. When Vader enters the fray, you are 100% guaranteed to lose.
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>>81356252
Read Lords of the Sith. They may have power but they are still men, not gods.
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>>81356282
Vader Down proves otherwise. He kills like 300 Rebel troops singlehandedly
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>>81356194

>Sheev's newer, better apprentice.

Luke's just a watered down version of Vader. He'd never be better. He's strong in the force, no doubt. But unlike his father, he isn't a construct of the force. Each generation of Vader's descendants will get weaker over time from non force sensitive genetic diluting.
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>>81356346
I think the tradeoff is that while Luke isn't ever going to be as strong as an undamaged Anakin would've been, he could become stronger than Vader.
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>>81356282
>Read some random shitty book

"No."
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>>81356282
>>81356332

I've read both. It's what I'm basing my points on Vader's power, skills and abilities on throughout the thread.
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>>81356332
A bunch of rebels surround Vader so that any attempt for them all to open fire and which misses the target will invariably hit the rebels on the opposite side of the shooter

and then their first opening volley was rockets that he can TK

I'm not too impressed with what he was up against.

Not to mention none of them were trained in the ways of the Force.
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>>81356346
>He'd never be better.
Where was that said?
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>>81354401
That's not concept art from Rogue One, that's concept art from the cancelled First Assault.
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>>81356401
In the book Vader makes several mistakes, is never tread as some immortal god who is never in any real danger, and is specifically told by Sheev at several points that he has not only failed but that he has much more to learn.
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>>81356045
We'd need a Kallus-like Imperial captain, a hot jailbait Inquisitor in training, a hotshot TIE pilot who thinks with his dick and falls for all the Rebel ladies, and a teenaged Stormtrooper spec-ops cadet to be our main hero.
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>>81356379

Except I don't believe his prostheses lessened Vader's potential one bit. In fact I think he became more powerful than he otherwise would've. The pain the suit gave him fed his anger, his anger fed his hate, and all of this enhanced his connection to the force. His prostheses accelerated his boost in power until the day he died.
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>>81356381
>refuses to read canon
>insists personal head canon is more accurate

Is this you, Francine? Are you going to be okay
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>>81354810

Kanan is up in the /co/'s Hunger Games if anyone's interested.
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>>81356587
I really hope he doesn't end up being blinded in that too. That would just be too much.
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>>81355308
It's heroin.
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>>81356462

I never claimed him to be immortal, though I suspect you may be confusing 'immortal' with 'invulnerable'. But as far as his power goes, he is godlike for all intents and purposes. No one has ever been more powerful in the force than him other than the Father, the Son, the Daughter and Darth Sidious.
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>>81353645
>>81353708
>>81353732
I really like it. Would like it as another theme.
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>yfw Starkiller blinded Kota with a light saber
POTTERY
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>>81356733
The hypercrisis is real
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>>81356669
But he wasn't invulnerable either.

Also not sure where you're getting your power level ranking. Are you sure you aren't confusing Star Wars with DBZ?
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>>81356668
I liked those videos.
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At least we aren't still talking about whether or not Ahsoka died.
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>>81356733
>star killer was modeled after a guy that went on to voice maul in tcw

IT'S HAPPENING

TIME IS FOLDING IN ON ITSELF

THE UNIVERSES ARE CONVERGING
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>>81356587
>Kanan dead

Who didn't see this coming?
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>>81356809
Well, death is pretty definitive.
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>>81356861
Kanan
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>>81356840
I have the suspicion several people at the Wook are saying, "Holy shit, our dark ritual worked! The Disney Canon is cracking open and Starkiller is leading the charges for the Return of the Legends! Our savior!"
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>>81356874
There is no death, Loren. There is only The Force.
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>>81356346
Didn't Lucas outright say Luke is the strongest force user?
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>>81356891
Except that blind Kanan isn't based on Kota. They're both based on Zatoichi.
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>>81356840
No, it WAS the voice of star killer who blinded kanan.

It happened. Star killer did it. He's made himself canon.
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>>81356752

The conversation is, admittedly, sounding very close to one. But none the less, Vader's performed off feats of strength in the force well beyond what we've seen any Jedi Knight or Sith Lord be capable of, apart from Darth Sidious.
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so yeah that song at the end of the finale, i fucking need it
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>>81356927

>Didn't Lucas outright say Luke is the strongest force user?

Not as far as I recall. And if he did, he outright contradicted himself when he made Anakin the physical incarnate of the force. And I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. Nothing comes to mind at the moment, but I think Lucas has done that a few times before.
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>>81356840
This needs to happen.
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>>81357044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyiYl7h2Q70
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>>81357059
Anakin's dad was the Force but Luke's dad is Anakin. Since the Force runs strong regardless there doesn't seem to have been any dilution.
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>>81357227

Until that's proven, I'm going to forever say that Luke is just a watered down version and each generation will be weaker.
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>>81356954
While true, the fact that both were blinded by Same Witwer can't be coincidence.
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>>81357340
He's a good VA that has proven to deliever what the company wants, of course it can be.
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in the Rebels Recon Filoni said there is a big moment in Star Wars history coming in season 3
Is he talking about Han and Chewie first meeting?
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>>81357218
thank you good sir
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>>81351195
>all life on Malachor was destroyed

then what was Maul feeding off of all those years?
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>>81357416
No, that's reserved for the movie.
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>>81350650
If it didn't rot after a thousand years I doubt it had any microbes in it.
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>>81357416
That should have already happened.
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What was with all the Rule of Two shit in a pre-Banite temple? Are they implying the Rule of Two was developed beforehand and only codified by Bane?
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>>81357340

Much so indeed. And let us not forget that all legends are fair game to be used as creative inspiration. This is just Kanan's new development stage. Before, he was based on Kyle Katarn. Now they've added Rham Kota into the mix. Also interesting of note, both Kanan and Kota had significant affiliation with Mace Windu if I'm not mistaken.
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>>81357435
Dark Side and starvation, look how frail he is.
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>>81357416
He's talking about something that either took a lot of saved budget to make or possibly an OT character they've been hunting for the right voice for.
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>>81357474
I think they were just using it coincidentally. It seems dickish enough that the Sith would construct such a thing and MAKE you have to bring someone else along to even access it.
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>>81357416
Probably the formal founding of the Alliance to Restore the Republic
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>>81357416

It'll probably be the formation and open deceleration of the Rebel Alliance. Bear in mind, for the less seasoned of us, that right now they're just a bunch of separate cells and freedom fighters. The alliance doesn't exist yet.
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So are we gonna go back to more raids on Imperial outposts and gathering allies?
>TFW they receive word that a powerful force user has been transferred to a remote Imperial prison
>They're apparently used by Inquisitors to train against force users, and are kept under tight security
>The Ghost crew break in, find the prisoner, wrapped up in a straitjacket and hood, bust them out
>They get them onto the Ghost and make their getaway
>Once they get into hyperspace, they finally manage to get all the myriad restraints and force dampeners off them
>And the sensory deprivation hood falls away, revealing the prisoner to be Barriss.
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>>81357484
And now they're both founding the rebellion
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>>81357227
Shmi was saying that in front of the kids and the jarjar. She was used as a sex slave and doesn't know who the father is. Learn to context.
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>>81357404
There were three Inquisitors and Vader there. It doesn't really matter who blinds him; Filoni knew exactly what he was doing when he had Witwer blind the guy who looks like a young Kota.
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>>81357638
With Ahsoka out of the picture for the remainder of Rebels, Bariss has no point in showing up.
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>>81357654
She said that privately to Qui-Gon. It wasn't a round table discussion.
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>>81357499

I don't know, anon. He looks to be in pretty good shape.
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>>81357719
I actually don't care if your right. She was a sex slave.
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>>81357720
He was natty in CW, but not that slim + his spine is now a bit curved.
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>>81357763
Shmi Skywalker is the worst waifu you could have come up with anon
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>>81357712
You underestimate the power of the Baerriss.
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>>81357597
>>81357516
>>81357416
They're going to nick the X-Wings.
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>>81357499
Everyone in rebels looks too thin and wiry. Stop being retarded YOU COLOSSAL RETARD
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Was the holocron voice Kreia?
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>>81357638
I still feel bad about those poor Mining Guildsmen who were all slaughtered by dastardly fuel thieves.
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>>81357815
Not even Inky could resist her strong ideals and quick tongue.
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>>81357770
He's old, getting a bit bowed is part of the program.

He looks great for his age
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>>81357856
Calm down Cory, kids wore you down? Jeez.
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>>81357885
Old? Dude's barely 50.
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>>81357986
He's 50 an not a human.
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>>81357859
Filoni isn't saying, but did say he has the character's name and story down already and that she is an ancient Sith who built the temple
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>>81357815
She'll be in the book, not the show.

Now that Ahsoka is gone. What's the point?
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>>81357654
You're forgetting the implications of the wider context. Qui-Gon told Yoda he exists as one with the Force but cannot manifest his image, only his voice. He also exists in a state where the past, present, and future are all the same time him

He visited Shmi in the past and impregnated her with his midi-chlorians. Anakin's dad IS Qui-Gon Jinn. This is why he felt drawn to Anakin, he sensed somehow they were connected and wanted to train the boy as his surrogate but actually his real father

Now you know the hot, saucy truth that Lucas was building up to when Disney bought them out.
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>>81357986
>>81358024

I'd but him at 60, assuming he was 30-ish during TPM. And he's actually pretty close to human anyway.
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>>81358116
Ahsoka lives, anon. She is the immortal phoenix risen from the ashes of Malachor.

The killer of waifus cannot abide killing his own. She shall be eternal.
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>>81357763
Toydarian + Human don't mix, anon.
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>>81358251
Yeah Vulcans are pretty close to human too but they have the strength of a Silverback and can live to like 500. Just because they look 99% human doesn't mean they are 99% human.
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>>81358218

>He visited Shmi in the past and impregnated her with his midi-chlorians. Anakin's dad IS Qui-Gon Jinn. This is why he felt drawn to Anakin, he sensed somehow they were connected and wanted to train the boy as his surrogate but actually his real father

Part of me wants this to be true. Whether in a surrogate or actual sense, Qui-gon was the father figure Anakin needed and deserved.
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>>81358279
Gardulla had her first.
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>>81358279
This is how we got Iego Angels, anon.

Checkmate, Motti.
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>>81357654
I want to believe that. Not necessarily the sex slave thing, but the fact that Anakin is just a kid that happened to be extremely strong in the Force and that Shmi's answer is just her being secretive about the father. And since she's dead, that's question is still open...

I don't like shitty prophecies.
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>>81358269
So Barriss is going to go even more crazy on Malachor now?
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>>81358335

True, but none the less, he's identified as old by characters in universe. On top of that, Dathomiri Zabraks are just about half human anyway, in addition to native Zabraks being near human.
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>>81358436
You think Palps had the patience to train someone 30 years? Maul's roughly the same age as Obi Wan.
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>>81358400
The only way to drive the hate out of someone is by by being someone's magic long lost son...or by hatefucking them such as none has other hatefucked before and the very seas boil and the continents shatter

Barriss won't be able to walk for awhile but she'll be back on the right side of the Force. The Orange Side
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>>81358116
Barris comes in and guides Ezra's teachings towards The Dark Side. Tears are had
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>>81358461
Palps has a lot of fucking patience.
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>>81358218
That's bullshit. She was one of Palpatine's many staff secretaries/sexual conquests and got Oops-knocked up. Realizing he was a scheming monster who hung out with a creepy Muun and made coffee cups move with his mind, she fled Coruscant without even giving two weeks' notice and got as far to the Outer Rim as she could on her meager budget. Unable to make ends meet after giving birth, she sold herself into slavery to Gardulla so that she could provide at least basic support, but then Gardulla got overconfident at the podraces and bet and lost her and her bastard child to Watto.
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>>81358523
Other side of the coin, you think Maul would be Apprentice for 30 years or wait that long to try to usurp Palps? He's really not the patient sort.
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>>81358461
>You think Palps had the patience to train someone 30 years?

Yes. It took him decades to enact and complete his plans to create the Galactic Empire. Why should I think that he wouldn't have the patience to train an apprentice for 30 years? Of all the faults that Sidious may have, impatience is not one of them.
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>>81358539
You asked for this, anon.
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>>81358472
She tried so hard, but the power of the Orange Side was too great.
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>>81358595

Considering that he was being used as a tool at that point, was not near strong enough to beat him AND knew of what Sidious was planning, I think Maul would've been content to bide his time. Why kill his master before the Empire was founded? Better to kill him after and THEN rule the galaxy. Of course neither of them knew it was going to happen to Maul in the meantime, but still.
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>>81358682
10/10
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Reminder that Rey is essentially Infinities Leia.
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>>81358761
Of course, Maul's managerial skills are shit so the Empire would fall apart over a single three-day weekend
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>helisaber
What have they done?
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>>81358871
Still a real shame that Leia isn't a Jedi in canon anymore.
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>>81353052
As some one who plays the X wing minitures game, you're full of shit.

The V1 is the advanced prototype and has both hyperspace engines and shilding but is about as frail as an A wing.

http://xwing-miniatures.wikia.com/wiki/The_Inquisitor
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>>81359046
That shit was the only bad part about the finale. It's just way too damn goofy.
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>>81358461
Palps spent ten years grooming his next apprentice
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What if Maul is in the Obi-Wan movie?
Guy won't fucking die.
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>>81354315
>Maul once ruled Mandalore

Yeah, I'm really hoping we get to see Maul and Sabine interact at some point, especially since it's been confirmed that her mother was Deathwatch and also implied that she's not a big fan of their actions.

Also I'm pretty sure that Rook Kast was her mom, and Rook was a member of the group that went to save Maul from Sidious.
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>>81359085
>miniatures game
>canon
Oh dear sweet anon, I am so sorry.

If it makes you feel any better Vader's TIE still has it's own shields and hyperdrive, but the prototypes used by the Inquisitors do not.
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>>81359141
What if it was Plagueis used his magic immortality powers on Maul?
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>>81355306
>leads him to seeking out maul.

I'm not sure he'll want to seek out Maul, especially if he learns that Maul blinded Kanan. The major thing that's been pushing him to the dark side has been the desire to get justice for his parents and the need for enough power to protect his current family. I'm a bigger fan of Maul going on a rampage, cutting down all who stand in his way, in search of the Holocron and by extension, his apprentice.
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>>81359141
That's the problem with bringing a fan favorite character back to life, or any character really. Now there's essentially no circumstance where they can properly kill him off again and furthermore none of the fans will ever let go of the possibility of him coming back again no matter how final it seems. I mean, he was already cut in half and fell into a seemingly bottomless pit, it doesn't get much more definitive than that and yet he lived. I love what they've done with the character, but still.
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>>81359168

I'm pretty sure Filoni said Sabine's mom was one of those who were part of Bo-katan's faction when Darth Maul took over Death Watch. Also, Sabine's surname is Wren, not Kast.
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>>81358972
?
He was able to organize a coup and unite half of the galactic criminal underworld in a matter of weeks.

His managerial skills are pretty up to par for an apprentice of Sheev
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>>81359181
You mean the Advanced?
Cause Filoni himself worked with FFG to help make the wave 8 ghost and V1

So the game actually writes the canon, not the other way.

Look at things like the Raider, which FFG just made and Lucasfilm canonized.
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>>81359351

Maybe Rook was her aunt? You cannot deny the similar appearances and armor.
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>>81359376
>Cause Filoni himself worked with FFG to help make the wave 8 ghost and V1

Source?
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>>81359376
That's not how canon works. Games are designed around balancing the units and the mechanics have always been the most dubiously canon.

What we actually see in the show is that the Inquisitor's TIE Advanced Prototype needed to dock with the Gozanti and couldn't jump on it's own.
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>>81359376
Pablo has worked on games. Those aren't canon either.

They have canonized some rather eclectic items from the games, at least.
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>>81359429
This isn't even a mechanical thing, FFG just made up a ship and got a stamp.

It works how they say.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Raider-class_corvette
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>>81359405

No, no I cannot. In fact I never noticed it until you posted it. I'm now pretty open to there being a relation between the two. But I could've sworn Filoni said that Sabine's mom was on the side that resisted Maul's rule.
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>>81359472
A wook article? Okay

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Inquisitor's_TIE_Advanced

And these are the guys who try to declare canon via the backs of action figure packages.
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>>81359362
Yeah, he's good at building power, just not maintaining it. His underworld fell apart really fast.
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>>81359505
But when she talked to those other Mandalorians and mentioned her name, they called her a former Deathwatch and traitor, and she asserted that it was her mother but not her
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>>81359535
Even in Rebels, he manages to gain sway over Ezra and con him into helping and then immediately cocks it up and gets thrown off a pyramid by a blind guy.
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>>81359505
He just said she was there during Maul and Vizsla's duel
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>>81359535

Only because he got out-Sheeved by THE Sheev. And was against a superior invasion force that attacked all of Maul's bases simultaneously. You really can't hold that against him too much.
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>>81359234

Like, could you imagine, every two or three episodes, Maul comes a crashing in like a force of nature to screw shit up for the crew of the Ghost, all the while calling out to Ezrea to join him
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>>81359472
If your only source is a miniature game and it's at odds with what is actually seen in the shows your source is weak.

But despair not, you can tweet Pablo and he might get you an answer. Maybe they upgraded the Inquisitor TIEs with hyperdrives the same way the Phantom was upgraded. You never know, it could happen.
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>>81359577
>>81359535
I'm okay with Maul being a Starscream of the Star Wars galaxy
especially if it makes him immortal too
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Quick question, what is Rebels rated in America? Is it G or PG7?
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>>81359577
>oh hey Maul where's Ezra
>you mean... MY APPRENTICE? HA HA IT WAS ALL A RUSE I'M BETRAYING YOU NOW
God what a moron
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>>81358611
>earns 15 dark side points

my sides
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>>81359680
I think it's Y7
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>>81359607

Yeah, that that's when the faction split happened. And I'm almost sure the handfull of women in the room followed Bo-katan out.

>>81359551

Sabine and the Protectors likely don't know the whole story. After everything was said and done, I wouldn't be surprised if Maul and Bo's factions were both labeled by the average Mandalorian as traitors. I get the suspicion these things tie into the Siege of Mandalore, of which we don't know a whole lot about.
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>tfw we'll never have a maul vs starkiller fight
I just want to see Sam Witwer yell at himself
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so uh

when are we getting season 3 now

are we going to be a DEAD THREAD ???
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>>81359894
Tweet Witwer the image and message and see if he'll do something for you.
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>>81359901
Show is cancelled. Filoni broke down after he killed Ahsoka and choked to death on his own cowboy hat.

Legends say a pack of wolves broke in and took the body but we have no official confirmation from Lucasfilm.
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>>81359912
Does he normally respond to fans?
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Sooo I've gotten flagged for torrenting a few times recently. Will downloading an episode via Mega get me flagged?
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>>81359901

Probably fall. It's always been fall before.

Since this was a full-sized season, we probably won't even get a special like Siege of Lothal the late spring or summer to tide us over. We'll just have to wait for the season to start.
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>>81359955
I don't know, but it might make him smile, but I'm an idiot. Up to him if he sees it as nagging or a jest in good fun.
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>>81359955
I don't know about twitter but he did a playthrough of TFU2 on twitch a few months back and was very talkative with the stream
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I'm inclined to think that the Inky TIE's have hyperdrives based on season 2. The show doesn't always handle the logistics, but we've seen the Inquisitors show up several times with no carrier ship for their TIEs, especially in the last episode where the other Inky's show up and there was never any Star Destroyer or Gozanti or anything in the system.

I'd suggest they did indeed upgrade them over the season 1 version, no doubt to make the Inquisitors more autonomous and no longer reliant on larger ships for taxies. It makes sense, really.

As for shields, fuck shields, they barely do shit for fighters in Star Wars. X-Wings and TIEs still both go up in flames with a few hits each.
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>>81359934
> not a pack of owls carried his body away
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>>81359967
Who flagged you? You might be in one of the exceptionally grumpy countries
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So Ahsoka is a ghost, the Mass Shadow Generator or whatever the hell that thing on Malachor was was blown to kingdom come, Maul is Star Wars Starscream, Kanan is blind, Ezra is being tempted, Vader's a badass, the Inquisitors are dead, the Owl might have been a Celestial, and meanwhile Sheev is just laughing his ass off and chanting "JUST AS PLANNED" to himself. Did I miss anything?
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>>81360011
I follow him on twitch and I still missed it ;-;
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>>81360051
Chopper is murderbot
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>>81359894
Starkiller was shit anyhow.
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>>81360029
Wolves, Leslie. They are Filoni's spirit animals.

He even has a little wolf pin on his cowboy hat.
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>>81360091
>Ahsoka will never ride a wolf
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>>81360091
Owls AND Wolves? By god, this warlock is to powerful.
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>>81360043
time warner in US, they are fuckin sticklers. I just wanna watch twilight of the apprentice again in 1080p. Fuckin kiss cartoons has a little pop up in the corner of the vid you cant get rid of.
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>>81360089
chopper is building what is to become the great droid revolution

didn't you hear what he said about free will?

HE KNOWS
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>>81360089
Not posting the full version? Mediocre, Stanley.
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>>81360090
The TFU game was my first introduction to the EU. He'll always have a special place in my heart.
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>>81360007
I've seen him talk to fans. Fun guy, he's been jesting with FPJ for months over twitter. Give it a try.
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>>81350105

Thumbnail looks like a goat.
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>>81360051

>Did I miss anything?
>the Inquisitors are dead

Not all of them. Only the four we've seen.There will probably be more next season. In fact I think we'll likely get at least one new Inquisitor every season. Though I think they'll probably be after Darth Maul more than Kanan and Ezra.
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>>81360156
But Kanan lives in the full version
Boring
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>>81360131
Never had a problem with them personally. Are you using a university connection or something?

Anyway megas should be fine, but I'm no expert. They're encrypted at least.
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>>81359687
I would've been so fucking down for an entire season of Maul chilling with the Ghost crew, slowly tempting Ezra more and more, with Maul and Kanan constantly having this secret power struggle over Ezra's soul.

Maul's first victory is when Ezra replaces his lightsaber with a double-bladed version.
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>>81360089
That too. So if Maul is Starscream(Incompetent, constantly jobbing traitor) does that make Sheev Megatron(Power hungry, snarky HAM who wants to rule the universe) and Vader Soundwave(Only competent, seldom speaking, loyal(?) minion)?
>>81360178
To be honest, I'll be satisfied if they just bring in Jerec.
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>>81360189
Maul accidentally calls him Savage
How much would you feel?
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>>81360114
It's all in her background novel.
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>>81360226
I...I-I'd be f-fine...
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>>81360188
no, they just seem to crack down on me more than centurylink ever did
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>>81360263
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Padime was such a random character. How didn't Anakin want to smang Ahsoka instead
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>>81360226
> "Hey Maul, did you call the guy who tried to call me a savage? That was a close one, huh"
> "... Yes."

Don't know if he'd play the dead Brother card in that moment, but the name is easier to explain away as calling "brother"
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>>81360232
Her Montrals make her look like she's and owl or got wolf ears, no wonder Filoni is so fond of her.
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>>81354938
>fought worse than Kanan has so far
Technical limitations. Please remember this.
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>>81360206
>Recruitment is at an all-time low and they've lost a lot of people
>The Alliance scrapes together some money to hire some specialists
>"He'll be accompanying you on your mission. Treat him like one of your own, he's got first-hand experience with the Empire and its tactics. Meet Kyle Katarn, he'll help us put a stop to this supposed "new breed" of Stormtroopers."
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are any of you writing star wars related stuff?
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>>81360189
Is it just me or Maul seemed to somewhat care about Ezra? Maybe in the twisted sith-y way, but him yelling "MY APPRENTICE" struck me as very possessive.
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>>81356346
Completely untrue.
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>>81360486
No, I agree. Ezra was definitely more than just a pawn. I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that Maul "cared" about him, exactly, but he definitely liked Ezra.

I feel like Maul trusted Ezra which is hilarious because he'd never trust another Sith like that, and I think that was the point.
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>>81360486
He and Ezra bonded somewhat - Ezra trusted him, and apart from his brother and mother there hasn't been anyone who was a backstabber.

Ezra has potential and isn't entirely goody-two shoes ("Call me Jabba") and trusted him. That's apprentice material if you ever saw one, especially for Maul who's the last of the Dathomir and Sith teachings outside Sheev/Vader. And there's some things you can only learn from teaching another.

And Filoni said that Maul wants a legacy.
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>>81360445
>Wanting a Mary Sue
No thanks.
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>>81360526
kek I'm imagining Sheev and Maul at that part where one throws the other and Maul just going NOPE.
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>>81360445
>Canon Dark Troopers
>Canon Arc Hammer
>Canon Kyle Katarn
>Potential Canon Jerec
>Potential Canon Thought Bomb
>Potential Canon Valley of the Jedi
Fuck, Darth Bane is canon, why not? I'd love to see them included in the new canon, I wouldn't even care if the Ghost Crew stole the show, it would still be fantastic. Would put a grin on my face at least.
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just finished up the novelization of Ep. 7th. Now completed everything in star wars canon that I can. Have to read the adventures in wildspace books, but not ordering that shit from the UK.

wat do now?
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>>81360576
Sheev would just spin there and back.
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>>81360703
Wonder why they failed then.
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>>81360405

>Technical limitations. Please remember this.

I do remember. All the time. Luke having a poor and vastly incomplete training is how I rationalize why his unrefined, cumbersome fighting style is so different to how the Jedi fought before the Empire.

>>81360445
>Meet Kyle Katarn, he'll help us put a stop to this supposed "new breed" of Stormtroopers."

We already have Kyle in the form of Kanan.


>>81360486

They mentioned in the Recon that Maul is really kind of interested in legacy and securing his own Sith line. So he's seemingly very pro-apprentice.
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>>81360703
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>>81360727
Sheev and Maul had to trust each other enough to go through that stone trial, neither was up for that shit or Maul was still to young to lift.
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>>81351683
>she's an echo
I haven't heard terminology like that since Kotor 2.
Hey wait.
Asohka's a self imposed exile, and she just faced an awful thing on malachor...no they wouldn't.
Not even Dave could pull it off.
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>>81360793
Oh no. You best not be saying what I think you're saying-WAIT A FUCKING SECOND. SION. SION WAS DAMN NEAR UNKILLABLE, AND MAUL REFUSES TO DIE-
FILONIIIIIII!
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>>81360793
>>81360838
Please clue us non-KOTOR plebs in.
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>>81354347
>they've both won before
>neither were disqualified for this
Fucking wook
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>>81360882
Alright, long story short, KOTOR 2 had four important characters who were affected in some way by Malachor V, and the shit that went down there: The Exile, who was the general who ordered the Mass Shadow Generator be used, and was then so traumatized by all the death she felt in the Force that she sealed herself off from it. Later on, when she was beginning to regain that power, she and Traya described it as an echo. Darth Sion is a sith from the era of Exar Kun, who survived countless decades and injuries that SHOULD have killed him through sheer hatred and the Dark Side alone, with Malachor V just driving him crazier. The first anon was comparing Ahsoka to the Exile, and I was comparing Maul to Sion. The other two characters are Nihilus, a "sith" who was so warped by Malachor V that he became an eldritch abomination that devoured the souls of entire planets, and Traya, who was a jedi/sith/force user who's end goal was to either remake the jedi/sith order in her own image via the Exile or KILL THE FUCKING FORCE. Oh, and Nihilus and the Exile were referred to as wounds in the Force.
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>>81360745
>Luke having a poor and vastly incomplete training
But this simply is not true. He's Padawan level by the time he duels Vader in ESB. Vader is very surprised in their encounter and this is a man that's fought Lyleks, Ahsoka and other dangerous individuals. Coupled with Yoda's brutal training regime and time altering, Luke could've taken Kanan on in a fight and won.

By Return of the Jedi, he's on the par with Vader/Anakin. He didn't even consult Yoda for a year. He trained himself. His form may be sloppy but if ESB was made today, the Vader/Luke duel would've rivaled Anakin and Obi-Wan.
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>>81361032
Hot diggity damn. I want to make a better response but I want to play the games now and pay for Darth Felony's beverage of choice.
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>>81361209
If you're going to play them, KOTOR 1 is fine on it's own, but KOTOR 2 got rushed. However some magnificent bastard managed to use a combination of in-game unused data and his/her own modding skill to create a mod that finishes the game, allowing you to play it as it SHOULD have been played. Trust me, you'll enjoy it a lot, I know I did. Look up KOTOR 2 restored content mod.
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>>81361209
That pic is something I never realized I wanted until now.
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>>81361094
>time altering?
What? Did Yoda bend spacetime just to pack in more training? I always wondered why Luke got so good so fast.
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>>81361272
Until you realize that Maul has nothing but a short circuiting junkyard below the waist.
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>>81361209
save on multiple slots. I got like 80% through KoToR 1, then the game crashed during save, corrupted the data, and I lost everything
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>>81361300
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>>81361094
>He's Padawan level by the time he duels Vader in ESB. Vader is very surprised in their encounter

He was Youngling level (and is barely above that in ROTJ). Vader was surprised because Luke had further training where, as far as Vader knew, Luke shouldn't have. Vader and Sidious had no knowledge that Yoda was still around and the pretty much cucked Luke out of almost any Jedi artifact he came across.

>he's on the par with Vader/Anakin. He didn't even consult Yoda for a year.

You cannot possibly expect me to accept that in five years time, Luke went from asshole farmboy to master level who can rival one of the best swordsman the galaxy has ever seen?

Nope. Luke's training is sub par at the point of ROTJ, and just about any Padawan from the clone war era could challenge him. There is absolutely no way in hell I can be convinced from that Luke came out of that situation solely because of Vader's wavering feelings and not because of Luke's imagined great fighting skill. If it were not for Vader not being into the fight, he'd have beaten Luke easily.

>but if ESB was made today, the Vader/Luke duel would've rivaled Anakin and Obi-Wan.

You might be right, and I stress MIGHT. But alas, it was not. And thus the difference will have to be chalked up to Luke not knowing much if anything about actual lightsaber combat at the time.
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>>81361316
a) bionic dick
b) he's still got a tongue
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>>81361316
Robot dick/vibrator
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>>81360890
Luke hasn't won before.
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>>81361316
I think more just Ahsoka with a Sith or dark side character in general is very appealing. I'm a huge sucker for Jedi and Sith romantic pairings. I miss Ben and Vestara ;_;
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>>81361390
>Ben and Vestara
ANON WHY

I COULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY TODAY
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>>81360793
still not entirely getting what this is implying
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>>81361390
Thanks anon, I really needed that! THANKS PAL, I JUST LOVE THIS FEELS TRIP YOU'VE SENT ME ON. BECAUSE NONE OF THAT IS A THING ANYMORE.
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>>81361316
There is a technique known as Force Wang. Vader uses it too, and Sheev is known to use it remotely to fuck with people (literally) when bored.

Obviously doesn't come up in canon often.
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>>81361331
>He was Youngling level (and is barely above that in ROTJ)
The movies disagree with you. Stop factoring in technical limitations. In ESB/ROTJ the duels were as modern as possible.

>Vader and Sidious had no knowledge that Yoda was still around
Sidious sure as hell did. He actually mocks Yoda's death. And with Kanan, Ezra and other Force users running around, it's not impossible to think of Luke encountering other Force users and Jedi temples.

>You cannot possibly expect me to accept that in five years time, Luke went from asshole farmboy to master level who can rival one of the best swordsman the galaxy has ever seen?
You can because Luke is the strongest Force users in history because he has Anakin's potential. Also, you're forgetting Luke picked up training in that time period. And Yoda stopped/slowed time down for Luke to train. He had Grand Jedi masters train him.

>Nope. Luke's training is sub par at the point of ROTJ, and just about any Padawan from the clone war era could challenge him
Proof? Because the movie disagrees with you. Vader and Luke are matching speed and we've seen Vader against formidable opponents. The novelization even has him amazed that Luke is almost better than him at this point.
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>>81361515
>The movies disagree with you. Stop factoring in technical limitations.

I won't.

>And with Kanan, Ezra and other Force users running around, it's not impossible to think of Luke encountering other Force users and Jedi temples.

Kanan and Ezra are probably dead by that point. And force user =/= trained in the Jedi arts.

>Luke is the strongest Force users in history because he has Anakin's potential. Also, you're forgetting Luke picked up training in that time period. And Yoda stopped/slowed time down for Luke to train. He had Grand Jedi masters train him.

I call bullshit on that. There's no way Luke could have the potential of someone who was made out of the force. And yes, he had training. But obviously said training was not very long and what he learned was not nearly enough to contend with the likes of Vader and Sidious fairly.

>Proof?

Watching the films and cartoons. Anyone from the clone war era or before displays significantly more sophisticated technique than Luke did by the time of ROTJ.
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>>81361209
Why do I suddenly want this?

Also, is Maul black with red stripes or red with black stripes?
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She is in a better place now...
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>>81361729
Zabrak are technicolor with black tats, and the tats are nightsister magic, that's why they hold the colour and remain the same despite age.
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>>81361757
Or rather, she's in two different places after Maul's bisection.
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>>81361729
>Also, is Maul black with red stripes or red with black stripes?

I'm of mind that the red and black is all tattoo. I believe that like the nightsisters, the nightbrothers (who are born from them as the nightbrothers are used as breedingstock) come out pasty white and are then tattooed as children. Of course this is pure speculation, but I hold onto it until official sources state otherwise.
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>>81361757
>No NO!
She sounded so scared...I don't know if it was just the double voice, but jeez, that really came through.
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>>81361764
That's pretty neat!
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>>81361776
You just had to ruin it anon, didn't you?

It still hurts
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>>81361757
>Israel Christian
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>>81361789
My headcanon is that Dathomirians are some weird flux between Rattataki and Zabrak.
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>>81349997
Do you really want Anakin to cheat on his dead wife?
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>>81361838
yes
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>>81361832

I think official canon is that the Nightsisters and Nightbrothers, the Dathomiri in general are a mix between Zabrak and Human. Nightbrothers take on Zabrak traits and Nightsisters take on Human ones. Obviously the mixbreeding and climate of the planet have some factors in play. But yeah, Darth Maul, Ventress, Talzin, Savage are all basically half Human and half Zabrak.
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>we never got to see ahsoka meet hondo again
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>>81361764

Not the native ones. Zabraks from Iridonia come in Human flesh tones.
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>>81361699
>call bullshit on that. There's no way Luke could have the potential of someone who was made out of the force. And yes, he had training. But obviously said training was not very long and what he learned was not nearly enough to contend with the likes of Vader and Sidious fairly.

Lucas himself said Luke has Anakin's potential
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>>81361913
Maul and Hondo could meet again.
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>>81361945
Yeah, but they're boring visually. Iridonian and Dathomiri Hybrid Zabrak might be the remnants of two larger ethnic groups.
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>>81361964
Did Rex and Hondo ever meet face to face in CW?
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>>81350765
This thing still going on? Rolling on anything SW related.
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>>81361903
This seems like a really convoluted way of making Maul and Ventress related. It made more sense when they weren't.
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>>81361950

See >>81357059
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>>81361993
I had the same reaction as Dooku in here.
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>>81352181
Anon, how do you kill a vampire?
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>>81362042
Ask Tarkin
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>>81362081
Good thinking, but no.

You kill a vampire however the fuck you want, because vampires don't exist.

This is fiction, there are no rules, fuck your canon.
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>>81362081
Anon, Peter's just waking up his friend Chris, don't be mean.
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>>81361982
>Yeah, but they're boring visually.

I disagree.

>Iridonian and Dathomiri Hybrid Zabrak might be the remnants of two larger ethnic groups.

Maybe, maybe not. I choose to think the Dathomiri ones come off different because of being 'hybrids' as you put it, and by effect of Dathomir. And that when they originally arrived there, they were probably regular native Zabraks. But unfortunately we'll never know until Lucasfilm decides to elaborate.
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>>81362035
He says this in the specials in the 2004 versions of the movies. So I'm not wrong, Luke is everything Anakin was supposed to be.
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>>81362104
That's kind of a dumb line, Max Landis's dad, for two reasons.

First is the classic "if you're not going to make them like what people understand Vampires to be, why call them Vampires?" There's a lot of wiggle room here, because you can have parts of common Vampire traits in a story and not others and have it go over okay. Hell, most vampire stories nowadays have some crack about "hah, is that you think REAL vampires do?" But in the end, SOMETHING is needed to tie your vampires to the common notion of them, or else it's pointless. Names and language are to communicate things, it's stupid to make things mean nothing just because you want to.

Second, there doesn't need to be total agreement between fictional universes, but each fictional universe in it of itself needs some kind of internal logic, some kind of internal cohesion for the reader to make sense of. It never has to be like reality, even in how people behave, but there needs to be some sense of "it makes sense that that happened." This sense, like in the first point, can be incredibly broad, even covering some seemingly nonsensical things. But nonsense, like in the Alice in Wonderland books, can be a sense of its own as long as it's clear that that's how that story operates.

Just saying "it's fiction, there are no rules" is bullshit.
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>>81362219
Look, if making Ahsoka a ghost was to change a major part of the canon of the OT (because that's all Disney cares about preserving) then it wouldn't happen.

But it doesn't, so it's fair play.
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>>81360091
I-is lord Filoni a furry....?
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>>81362351
yes
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>>81362177
In season 6 of the Clone Wars Yoda is told he will receive the "Great Gift" of life after death because he is to train one who will save the galaxy form Imbalance.

So basically Luke is The Chosen One 2.0. Save Anakin, save the Force. Save the balance.

For even more fun the way the Sequels are shaping up the Force is not yet in balance. The Sith are destroyed but the galaxy is still in conflict and Dark Side users are still fucking things up. The galaxy needs Jedi to fully restore the balance, which is apparently their intended function. To keep the peace and keep shit from spiraling out of control.

So...maybe Luke or maybe - and this will cause some people to vomit out their colons if it happens - Yoda ends up training Rey to save the galaxy.
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Oh thank god the old board theme is back. I don't think I could've taken those bubbled comments much longer.
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>>81362351
Furry? HA! You know nothing, Katherine. Filoni is one of the greater Totemic Shamans who worships the Great Wolf Spirit. It gives him power beyond mere canon, but at a price. He must feed it the souls of dead waifus.

His goal is to save the one he loves most, Ahsoka, from death itself and allow her to ascend beyond the canon realm itself to a higher plane of reality: the true 3D world!
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>>81362042
You join him, anon. Qui-Gon would.
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>>81362042
Offer him a job in the Imperial Inquisition.

Seriously that job is a death sentence.
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>>81358682
Fucking hell that's good
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>>81361259
Never knew this. Only played the first. Thanks!
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>>81361326
Oh shit nigga
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>>81358029
Sounded like Asajj to me
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>>81362982
Same voice actress, but it's not her.
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>>81358682
I can't fucking believe how accurate this ended up being.
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>>81362838
I can second anon's statement. The original version got really, stupidly confusing in its themes towards the end, a symptom of rushing the production at the last minute.

KotOR2 also got an official patch 10 years after its release to fix a load of shit and also to technically align the core game to the the Restored Content mod if you installed it. If that isn't an official endorsement I don't know what is.
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>>81361757
The better place for her would be with me.
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>>81363581
But which of the two parts of her would you keep? The lower part with the boobs and the plumbing or the head? Remember they're not stuck together any more.
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>you will never have the chance to make her smile
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>>81363613
Why not both, I'm sure I could use some wire to sew together her head and body.
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>>81363613
She was cut in half at the waist anon. You will see soon enough...Spider-leg Seventh Sister will blow you mind. R-right?
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Why does Filoni always take away the best characters in season finales.

Not even talking about Ahsoka.
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>>81351195
>all life on Malachor was destroyed from the super weapon)

ok so vader is also dead then? good.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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