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How do you make a movie more fun?

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How do you make a movie more fun?
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What the fuck is this real?
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>>81298702
Add more quips?
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>>81298724
The damage control is real!
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>>81298702
I hope Harley puts in a fake moustache and when someone says something she is like "no one has to explain a mustache"
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>>81298702
Just don't spend the whole time following a hero that is a brooding sorrowful asshole the whole time.
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>>81298702
they're actually just pointing the camera at a wall for two and a half hours now. because I can personally assure you that staring at a wall for two and a half hours is gonna be more fun than whatever they were planning to do
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>>81298702
OH FUCK this is the worst thing they could do. The movie didn't look that unfun in the trailers, now they're going to overdo it and it'll suck.
What is going on at WB
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>>81298702
I don't believe any reshoots are to make SS "more fun". Ayer said he was making it fun right from the start.

If they are doing reshoots, that's a very common occurance and nothing to worry about.
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>>81298724
yup
http://screencrush.com/suicide-squad-reshoots-fun/
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>>81298809
This
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>>81298798
Shut up, manchild.
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Add Lex "Ding Ding" Luthor
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>More jokes
>More character interplay
>Brighter color palette
>More rock-oriented soundtrack
>Less wordy dialogues and monologues
>Action scenes that attempt to be glib rather than "epic".

It's pretty easy.
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>>81298702
I doubt they are doing reshoots this late
Suicide Squad unlike BvS is being marketed correctly and not blowing the plot to the movie 2 months before the movie comes out.
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>>81298702

I will bet my left nut they are gonna reshoot Harley being lolzorandumb with other cast members
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>>81298811
Ayer said it'd have more humor than people expect.

BvS also had a lot of humor, objectively. Most of it fell flat, but the jokes and quips were there.
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>>81298702

You don't have to do that much, DC, seriously. Just allow colors that are not black and blue into your movie, and let the movie have emotional highs and lows instead of a constant dourness, and you'll be fine! You don't need a million quips, you just need the occassional bit of levity!

That said, if Harley fucking Quinn didn't crack some jokes, that would be odd.
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>>81298780
>no one has to explain a mustache
Would this be considered funny in one of your animes?
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>>81298809

They are doing what they think will get them more money. Unfortunately it will in the short term at the cost of quality
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>>81298702
D-D-D-DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>81298702
Probably cutting out Batman. Putting in Dickbats.
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>>81298798
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Your reaction when critics hate it or being too silly?
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>>81298702
>By DEVIN FARACI
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WB ruining their properties some more
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>>81298930
>WHEN MARVEL DOES IT ITS FINE
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The best part is that the movie actually looked fun to begin with so whatever they're doing now will probably be retarded

Thanks Snyder! Your contributions will only lead to positive things
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>>81298809
According to the report, all the lighter moments of the movie where in the trailer. The rest was dark, brooding and serious.
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>>81298702
Fun ≠ Funny
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>>81298702
>Chase scenes
>Top 40 musical numbers
>Dick and fart jokes

Guaranteed box office
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>>81298897
No, just in shitty comics
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>>81298974
>>81298809
>A couple of weeks ago I spoke with an excellent source who told me something surprising: the trailer for Suicide Squad, the one with the Queen song, did not represent the film as it then existed. "Every joke in the movie is in that trailer," this source told me.

From the 'source' of the first article posted in this thread. Sounds like bullshit to me honestly.
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>>81298833

>all the jokes or levity that you see in that first Suicide Squad trailer consisted of the entirety of all the jokes or levity that you’d see in the whole film.
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>>81298974
I really don't see how all the fun moments were in the trailer
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>>81298907
Yeah because all those rewrites and executive meddling did wonders for BvS. A+ super coherent movie.
When will they put someone with at least two brain cells in charge. Dammit.
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It is pretty sad to see a comic company with such a longstanding history of culturally significant live action adaptations needing to constantly aim for a distant #2 spot behind Marvel, all because from the top down they've been aimless and inept for the last 20 years.
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>>81298907
>DCEU is a timeless masterpiece and not just an edgy alternative to MCU
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>>81298997
It's Faraci of course it's bullshit
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you got a movie full of meme actors and basically have the funnest character in DC comics starring in it
How does the movie need to be more fun?
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>>81299009
and it grossed half a billion till date and looking to cross a billion, so for all they know they are doing everything right
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>>81298724
>faraci
you tell me
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>>81299041
That's how I know its BS
Its like he didn't watch the trailers and see all the jokes from harley or joker etc
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>>81298702
After what happened to 'YOUKNOWWHO' at the very beginning of BvS because Snyder thought it was fun, I have reservations...
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>>81299094
Snyder isn't directing or writing this.
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>>81299054
If every light moment in the movie is in the trailer they clearly didn't get it right the first time
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>>81299041
He was right about BvS.
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>>81299116
But his 'influence' all over this DC film universe is being felt.
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>>81299001
Because SS=clicks. Someone talked about it on a podcast (Meet the Movie Press? Collider?) that a SS article would be their most clicked article of the day. Its got the right mix of skub (Joker tats, Harleys costume), popular characters (Harley, Bats, Joker), cool trailers and popular actors.
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>>81299116
He's DCEU's Kevin Feige, he's had a role in it.
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>>81299133
Reshoot are standard procedure, so that part is true.
Reshoots for ONLY adding quips? I don't think so.
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>This much denial over a very real possibility

That's how it starts...
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When was the last time you saw a movie that included an epic pie fight? Maybe, just maybe, its time has returned.
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>>81299159
My god, that's depressing. They have a better fucking director on payroll! That's one of the infuriating things about BvS.
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>>81299133
faraci was wrong about everything anon
Its mcweeney who got it right
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>>81299182
But the article specifically says it's not for adding quips, it's for adding more character interplay during the big action moments.
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>>81298852
>>81298929
i didn't realize that it was too early to be jumping on the ironic hate bandwagon
i'll hold out for a few more months, sorry guys
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>>81299094
Well David Ayer is a much better director and writer than Terio or Snyder
He also specifically went to WB with Suicide Squad.

Snyder is just looking at what's cool
Ayer actually likes these characters
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>>81299159
>He's DCEU's Kevin Feige
Oh god, I fucking hope not. DC deserves better
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>>81299185
reshoots happen all the time
reshoots for a movie to add more jokes in when its been marketed as having plenty of jokes already...nah
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>>81298702
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>>81299199
Faraci reported the mixed screenings first. Which was right. McWeeny talked about JUSTICE LEAGUE being delayed, which obviously didn't happen.

Faraci also broke a lot of stuff from the movie like the opening scene in North Africa, Superman destroying the Batmobile, General Swanwick talking about how Superman is taking the fight to an uninhabitable area, Lex Luthor knowing their secret identities and pulling the strings, Bruce living in a cottage because Wayne Manor burned to the ground, etc.
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Its funny becuase I've always maintained that suicide squad would be a much bigger movie than BvS primarily because it has Batman and his villains in the film.

Batman without his villains is boring

Not to mention that this movie is bright and fun type of edgy whereas BvS was just a dark movie
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>>81299198
>Have Oscar winning writer and GG winning director starring in your movie
>dude makes legit good movies
>is apparently doing re-writes on the fly by himself
>Still let Snyder be in charge

How fucking stupid do you even have to be
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>>81299054
It's easy: they don't know what they're doing.
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>>81298702
If this is real I want to die
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>>81298702
Put in some fun so the goyims wont criticize it
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>>81298961
Apeprantlly all the fun parts were already shown in the trailer. It was dark and gloomy otherwise.

now it might actually be a good film.
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This increases the likelihood that Captain Boomerang survives so fine by me
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>>81299341
This is his punishment for Gigli and Surviving Christmas.
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>People are surprised by this.

Wanna' hear a story? Way back in 2007, WB was producing a movie about Captain Marvel. It would've been directed by Peter Segal, the guy who directed the "Get Smart" remake starring Steve Carrell. That was actually the first time The Rock was linked to the Black Adam role.

Segal and his writer viewed the movie as Harry Potter with superheroes. Bright, cheery, fun. They called it "Billy Batson and the Power of Shazam". It had everything. Mary, Freddy, Talky-Twany, Sivana, even Uncle Dudley.

Then "The Dark Knight" came out and WB went through it's edgy phase. All of their movies had to be dark and edgy because that's what made them $1 billion and 94% on RT. Black Adam went from an evil magician who wanted to conquer the world to a bloodthirsty conqueror. Billy Batson himself went from a hopeful 10-year-old to a brooding 15-year-old.

Segal and the writer eventually jumped ship because they simply couldn't make it as dark as WB wanted it without compromising the character. And it was no isolated incident, given we at the same time also had a SE7EN-inspired movie about the Flash in which Captain Cold is a psychotic serial killer who murders his victims by injecting them with a chemical cocktail that "freezes" them from the inside out, then dumps their bodies on riverbanks.
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JUST
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>>81298862

So they're turning Suicide Squad into Guardians of the Galaxy?
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>>81299009
>being so retarded you think it isn't coherent
I'm sorry. I guess 8 years of nothing but Marvelshit will do that to a human brain.
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>>81298702
>Unsourced screenshots.
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>>81299493
Or maybe they kill him because he's a filthy mysoginistic asshole.
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>>81298995
My god
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>>81299570
That's clearly Warner's play.
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WB pls stop
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Post yfw the no movie comes out a complete trainwreck
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>>81298974
>>81298997
If this is true, then yes, reshooting might be a good thing.

Maybe it's due to Queen, but I was hyped as fuck by this Trailer.
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>>81298702
Whey aren't they doing this?

Isn't BvS doing great at the box office? I don't like BvS but c'mon, this is stupid!!
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I think Suicide Squad is the one movie where all the scoopers have been wrong about everything.
Faraci is saying its getting more jokes when we just had a trailer that was pure jokes

Obviously they want to continue the narrative of BvS setting the DCEU into panic mode but Suicide Squad has always been the more popular of the two movies for the normies
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>>81298702
>r-reviews don't matter
>people still l-love BvS
KEK
E
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actually I'm pretty hyped for Suicide Squad
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>>81299316
Wait, I thought Suicide Squad didn't have Batman.
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wait. was this shit supposed to have a serious tone?
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>>81299697
Just because it's doing fine doesn't mean that it shouldn't be doing better. I'm sure WBDC are realizing that their film tones are an issue with a lot of people.
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>>81298702
It's Devin Faraci, referencing an unknown "excellent source". I wouldn't hold too much stock by this.
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>>81299706
They haven't focused on suicide squad because BvS was coming out before it.
Now they can focus on Suicide Squad
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>Hey Jared, we gotta reshoot the scene where you skin that guy alive.
>We need you to pour a bucket of boiling water on his head instead.
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>>81299730
He's in a flashback scene with Joker and Harley.
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>>81299570
I never understood the GotG hate.
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>>81299706
In the article they say all the jokes were seen in the trailer.
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>>81299246
>BvS cast is just like "I wanted to be in that movie"
>Affleck is just like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4
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>>81299706
>Faraci is saying its getting more jokes when we just had a trailer that was pure jokes
According to various source the Trailer contained ALL of the joke. I think part of hte reason there are reshooting is because of the well reception of the Trailer.
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>>81299730
He shows up as Bruce Wayne and Batman in the film.
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>>81298809
>The movie didn't look that unfun in the trailers
>in the trailers
that's your problem right there
Trailers arent previews of a movie, movies are directed by people that show the world the story given to them through their eyes, trailers are directed by hype experts, show what the public wants to see , take fractions of movies and make their own.
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>>81299743
But re-shoot it? Isn't it expensive and extreme? Why not let the movie be and tone down the darkness in the movies to come? Also, there's nothing wrong with the movie being dark, the problem is when the movie has no balance: all dark is dull and flat. We need levity to have a counter-point.
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>>81298702
Fuck it. Whatever it was before the reshots, the rushed changes following the audiences babbling cannot make it better. No matter what the changes are, that never works.
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>>81298737
>Do you quip?
>You will.
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>>81299781
It's not hate so much as it's just acknowledging GotG as being another Disney/MCU assembly line product. Forgettable, easily beaten villain, jokes, quips, witty one-liners, etc.
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I just want this movie to start the Harley Quinn renaissance.
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>>81299570
They wish.
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>>81299781

Wait, who hated Guardians of the Galaxy?

And to be honest, if Suicide Squad had a tone similar to GotG, I think it would work well. Guardians was about a bunch of thugs and fuck-ups working together. That's in the same vein as the plot of Suicide Squad, just with worse criminals.
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>>81298737
>>81299875
Good. I love Quips.
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Did anybody else lose all interest once they found out the Joker was in it?
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>>81299822
From the shots we've seen it seems like he goes to Joker's nightclub as Bruce, then chases after him and Harley as Batman.
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>>81299769
Because either of those are good jokes.
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>>81298737
>>81299875
If there is one movie in the DCCU that is fir to have Quip to the max, it's Suicide Squad.
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>>81299916

They wish? Shit, I wish.
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>>81299947
not the joker but this joker
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>>81299781
Basically if a lot of people like it and it becomes kinda like a mainstream culture thing that normies like even if they dont know shit, /tv/ and /co/ start shitting on the movie saying its pleb tier manufactured bullshit for plebbit and 9fag posters.
Im kinda glad that BvS wont ever be considered that since its basically a normie filter. I just wasnt as bad as it is, not like i cant enjoy it, but there are many issues with it.
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>>81299924
>Wait, who hated Guardians of the Galaxy?
People with taste.
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>>81298780
[onomatopoeia for vomiting]
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>>81299947
At first, yes. But after seeing a little of Leto's Joker in the trailers now I want to see what he does with the character.
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>>81299947
No, I actually "gained" interest.
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>>81298702
I would give anything to see both versions side by side to see what they added in that they think is"fun" I hope though that they don't replace anything.
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>>81299246
>Affleck
Was he happy at ANY point during this?
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>>81299947

I wouldn't say ALL interest, but I'm starting to get concerned that he'll take up too much of the movie. And goddamn do I hate his design. That forehead tattoo drives me insane.
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>>81298702
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hey, check that out! its already working!


WHAT A JOKE
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>>81298702
>look at this hitfix clickbait asshole he doesn't know what he's talking about BvS is going to make Nolan look like the goddamn Goonies it's gonna make five billion dollarydoos why would they worry
>$500m in first week of release
>Green Lantern tier reviews, less than stellar word of mouth from audiences
>least that pays for the reshoots
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Who's doing the reshoots? The only source I see around is El Maybe.

I'm not opposed to reshoots per say but Fan 4 stick gave reshoots a bad vibe.
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>>81299054
>meme actors
Do YOU even know what the fuck this means? Who's a meme actor? Courteney, because he's in right now? Not really, he's never been that popular. Robbie, because of how she appeared in that casual, family-oriented...Scorsese film? Will Smith? Cause he had some quips in some movies two decades ago?
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>>81299133
Yeah but he also heard 'bad buzz' about Daredevil series 1 anon.
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>>81299781
I Love GoTG but I hate how when we first heard about this movie we got bunch of shitposters sayong DC ripped off marvel.
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>>81300041
Does Will Smith wear a fake beard?
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>>81298809
They're being reactive and knee-jerk to everything, just like they always have. There's no cohesive vision among WB producers and execs. So they'll have meetings and committees and second guess and tinker with everything until they kill whatever might have been good.
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>>81298998
Doesn't surprise me to be honest. This is the line that Warner Brothers desire. Otherwise they would have never made the Superman film and the Superman & Batman film the way that they did. In a row with nothing in between.

They did it the way they did since it's what they aimed for. And that likely extends, or at the very least extended to Suicide Squad as well.
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>>81298961
>hasn't directed a single good movie
>gets so much high profile work
How?
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>>81299540
>Se7en inspired Flash movie.

What??? I mean the Captain cold thing, sounds chillingly sinister, but it doesn't sound like Lenny.
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>>81299997
Taste for Edgy Bread and Salty Meats.
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>>81299730
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>>81298702
Looks like the DCEU is already dead. I had hopes for Suicide Squad.
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>>81300019
He was going through a divorce mid-press tour IIRC. Probably very stressful and draining to deal with that on top of being on board a crashing train. Also, he seems like he has a resting sad face. In a lot of the movies I've seen him in, his neutral face tends to look kind of morose.
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When exactly did Harley grow to become as popular as she appears to be now?

I mean, she has always kind of been around. But she was never a major figure like now.
Was it a gradual thing over time, or a specific moment that really spiked her popularity?
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>>81298995
wasn't she hiding a lockpick in there
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>>81300102
>Beard changes texture, length and color between shots.

Ah the Seek and Find of Reshoots will be fun with h this one.
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>>81300102
No. Do you?
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>>81298995
>Harley x Turbo OTP
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We all know how they will fix SS dont we?
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>>81300196
People who grew up with TAS are 30 now.

People who read suicide squad in high school are adults now.
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>>81300231
He will in the reshoots.
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>>81298995
>Shitting on Injustice Harley and her moustache

How dare you
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>>81300212
And didn't she kill him?
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>>81299929
>>81299963
>>81299875
>>81298737

How do you guys pronounce quips?

I pronounce it Kew-ee-peh.
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>>81300173
Isn't it actually a good thing. Th dark and brrody tone of MoS and BvS was one of their bad point.

If any movie in the DCCU is fit for a more humorous tone (as long as it is dark humor), Its Suicide Squad. especially if the rumor that all the funny part were in the Trailer already is true.
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>>81300196
Being a quirky female associated with Batman
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>>81298702

They're trying to deadpool it up real quick
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>>81299730
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3hecGO_04
Did you not watch the first trailer?
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>>81300276
quip
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>>81300260
By far one of the best Harley. Auntie Harley and talks of her daughter were great.
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>>81300281
You just know they going to go too far in the other direction.
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>>81300276
Whip with a q at the front is the objectively correct answer
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>>81300295
I hadn't watched the Trailers so far. Watched the Queen one recently and was hyped like Fuck.
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>>81300223
my nigga


dc is crumbling like a bad cookie

and ill keep giving them my money for a ticket

its kinda fun desu
lets see how many acts the try to stuff into that clown car they call the DCEU
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>>81300132
his wife is a big-time producer
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>>81300148
It was basically "CSI chases serial killer, halfway through becomes superhero, in the third act his mentor becomes omnicial speedster from the future".
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>>81298702
Jesus, this is hilarious.
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WB, you fucking cowards. Stop ruining last chance to get back our hopes in your movies. Fucking shame. What's why we can't have nice things.
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>>81300302
She is great. Oh Taylor why has you forgotten us
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If this makes Harley closer to her more likable goofy TAS version, then I'm ok
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>>81299159
That's Johns m8
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>>81300370
Harley button your damn pants, you're in a hospital
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>>81300370
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>>81299570

>Assassin who takes orders literally
>Super-strong warrior woman from another world
>Leader who gets beaten up all the time

80s SS WAS MCU GotG
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I was going to go see it because I like both Deadshot and Will Smith and wanted to see how that'd go.
Now I'm going to go see it because it'll probably be fucking terrible.
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>>81300403
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>>81299960
Joker doesn't joke
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>>81300403
did the baby just become 80 years older?
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>>81300428
Wow. Where is this from?
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>>81300429
Have you never seen a newborn?
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>http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/31/suicide-squad-reshoots-bode-well-for-the-dc-movieverse

Your actual "source".
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>>81299054
That comic has to be the most infuriating thing to attempt to read. Harley is ok in small doses,but a whole comic series would be grating on the nerves.
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>>81300465
Superman/Batman #65 in which Scarecrow is jelly that Batman & Joker and Superman & Lex are so popular and doses them with his fear toxin
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>>81298809
This. They set the last trailer to Queen for the love of god. This movie looked like the polar opposite of Batman v Superman. This just seems so unnecessary and stupid its actually destroying the hype I had for this movie.
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>>81298702
After the bleak, dark, dank, depressing, serious, grim spectacle that was BvS I'm not surprised
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>>81298702
Add a monkey.
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>>81300574
But Will Smith is already the lead.
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>>81300416
It's a DC movie, it was going to be fucking terrible anyway.
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>>81300534
Many thanx, mate
Missed specifically just this one, cuz it wasn't translated to my language.
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>>81299781
Me neither but I have a friend who read the comics and his main problems with the movie were the depowering of Gamora and Drax and the oversimplification of Ronin.
Personally I loved it. It was a silly fun space adventure that didn't take itself seriously.
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>>81299116
He's a producer on this one, i just hope he is not going to touch anything on Batfleck's film, i can't believe how Warner gave all this power and influence to that asshole
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>>81299947
Actually I'm interested in seeing Joker. I'm glad that they're portraying him as a gangster again, the anarchist shit has gotten old now.
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>>81300606
kek
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>>81298702
God damn it

The trailers already made it look fantastic. Now I'm afraid the reshoots will swing too far toward MCU as WB/DC scrambles to tell people they're fun again.
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>>81300318
What he said.
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>>81300648
If they haven't already, WB really needs to just let Ben do it all himself. It may stretch the guy really thin and take a while but Snyder needs to stay the fuck away from at least ONE of the solo movies entirely.
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>>81298702
>yfw Sensitive Joss Whedon and Age of Quiptron manage to ruin films he's not even involved in
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One day later and I'd assume an April Fool's joke.

How the fuck is a mivie starring Harley Quinn not already "fun"?
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>>81300788
One that has Overlord Snyder's fingers in it.
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>>81300788
it's called Snyderverse
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Oh god, I really have no hope for the DCEU.
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>>81300933

Nobody does, outside of shills.
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>>81300295
What are the chnage they made that decision based on the reaction of the Trailer.

Like, it was mean't to be a real scale test Audience and depending of which Trailer would trend the most, they would decide whther or not to revise the direction of the movie?
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>>81300765
At least, Age of Ultron is a good movie.
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>>81300886
Really all they have to do is fire faggot hack Snyder but instead they change literally everything else.
Why can't WB execs understand that shnitder is the main issue and movie quality would go way up if replaced?
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>>81299094
I just saw the movie, but I got there late. Who was that dude up in Wayne Tower at the beginning?
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>>81298702
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>>81301074
It's average at best.
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>>81298702
YOU CAUSED THIS MOVIE AUDIENCE AND CRITICS

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR WAYS IS THAT OF A PLAGUE
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>81301192
Jack was most likely Wayne Financial manager in Metropolis.
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>>81298702
What a load of horseshit. Ayer said a long time ago that people will be surprised at how funny the movie is. This is clickbait at its finest.
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>>81299781
It is well liked. Ergo people hate it.
Either because they hate that it is a well received MCU film, or that it is liked by what they feel are too many people, or because they just genuinely don't like it.
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>>81298896
if WB wanted to make good decisions, they would ask Snyder what he would do and then do the opposite
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>>81299246
>Godot trying to sneak over to the fun people
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>>81298920
best way to transition into a happier dcu
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>>81298702
is there hope for this movie, /co/?
i'm hoping for some cool deadshot moments just him hitting impossible to hit targets
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>>81300196
she's a female who wears tight &/or skimpy clothes who does whatever she wants and never has to face consequences for any of it of course she's popular
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>>81298702
>Reshoots to make it more fun
Isn't that a good thing?

Not every movie needs to be dark and unfun, we don't need another BvS.

And I'm a comic book movie fan
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somebody post harley ass
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>>81298920
Batman makes money to WB and the people liked Ben Affleck, i doubt it
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>>81301408
So original character appearing for the first time?
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>production arrives on lot
>rational outlets: "Suicide Squad goes for resho-"
>Devin Faggot Raci:"HOL UP HOL MY ''''SOURCE'''' TELLS ME THATS ITS TO ADD MORE JOKES AND ITLL CODST A BAZIILION DOLLARS
>thirsty clickbait outlets: "WOAHHH SUICIDE SQUAD UNDERGOING EXPENSIVE RESHOOTS TO ADD MORE JOKES!!!! REPORTEDLY OF COURSE!!!!"
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>>81300196
>When exactly did Harley grow to become as popular as she appears to be now?

When she first appeared in B:TAS. She was an instant hit.
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>>81301830
And last.
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>>81301719
No, because these are horrible people doing bad things. Out of all the cape movies out there this one needs grit not fun.
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>>81301846
Who is this Devin guy and where did he hurt you
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>>81302009

He's just a hack film critic who likes to pretend he's more influential than he is.
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>>81298961
Nolan was producer of MOS and BVS and nobody gave a fuck about what he said, so sad
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So, how will we be able to tell which parts of the movie were reshoots? Will they put a baldcap on Will?
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Can Will save the DC Cinematic Universe?
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>>81302077
It's a sad day when Christopher Nolan is begging you for restraint.
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>>81301982
But to be a good comic movie you NEED to be fun

It's part of the genre.
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>>81302077
>Nolan was producer of MOS and BVS
There are people who we know will have a bigger pull for a movie depending on their role. For example, Michael Bay doesn't direct or write the new TMNT movies but does that matter? We know it's basically a Bay movie anyway. Tim Burton didn't direct or write Nightmare Before Christmas, but look who's name is on the title

Also, I think, unlike MoS, Nolan was not actually in the marketing much
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They should put a scene where Cap Boomerang throws a boomerang at Joker and he replies:

>"did you just throw a ginormous frisbee at me? the fuck..."
>"im supposed to be a madman, not a dog"
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>>81301880
>When she first appeared in B:TAS. She was an instant hit.
No. She had her own following. But she was never a major character on par with the actual titular characters or nemesis characters.
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>>81298702
Holy shit Warner.
Suicide Squad being dark as fuck is cool! These guys are fuckign super villains!

We live in the universe were Deadshot will be fun and Superman will be gritty.
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>>81302027
is he the guy who whined that Superman wasn't inspirational and happy anymore while saying comics are incredibly kid-unfriendly?
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>>81300276

kwip
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>>81302125
When do they fug?
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>>81298702
this is really deppresing, BvS was great and while i dont want ss to be the same tone, i dnt want it to be another marvel film, fuck that shit
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>>81302150
No. Cape films are a subset of the action genre. Cape films only need action/adventure. Everything else is just fluff.
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>>81302203
You can be excused because you weren't born yet, but you're wrong.
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>>81301074
Shit bait
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>>81298809
Actually desu, SS is one of the only times a trailer has made me not want to see a movie. Honestly can't remember why though
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>>81302150
if you're not kidding, you're a gigantic faggot
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>>81298702
This somehow makes it seem it wasn't "fun" enough. The trailer was "fun" enough I think. WB in full panic mode.
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>>81298702
>watching Suicide Squad for the plot
>not watching it just to fap to best boy
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>>81302203
You are wrong anon
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>>81302251
I think Ayer just wants to make sure people get a movie that the trailer promised. Something dark but whimsical in its own way. If the original movie cut was too dark, then this is for the best.
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I can't believe you morons actually believe this.
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>>81300132
He probably sucks a mean cock and is a very non-threatening manlet.

>>81302256
>He'd watch action movies without dumb jokes

Jsusu christ, you know what they call that? Do you have any idea what an action movie without dumb jokes is?

A FUCKING WAR MOVIE.
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>>81302256
>>81302308

Who watch comic book movies to make themselves sad?

Cape movies are MEANT TO BE UPLIFTING.
It's about heroes and heroines doing great things, and it's to make us feel good.

No one wants to watch something that's depressing.
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>>81301719
It implies WB executives are going back and messing with Ayers product in response to criticisms of BvS.
It's very unlikely that those kinds of actions would really improve it at all.
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>>81302251
>levity = marvel
I'm so sorry you never actually read DC comics, you ginormous faggot.
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>>81302298
No Bait, serious opinion. Good movie, hate for it make no sense.
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After watching the two trailers, I can see them wanting to make it look more like the second one. More light.
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>>81298702
So does this mean Snyder is being fired yet or what

Also does this mean SS isn't going to be good to begin with cause the trailer looked fine?
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>>81302495
>cape comics can be many things
>but cape movies can only be one thing
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>>81302322
I would but Batman would manslaughter me.
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They're going to try to top this joke?
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>yfw pie subplot

I expect at least more Boomer
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>>81302525
nah fuck you dumbass, chances are i've read a shit ton more dc then you ever have, i dont want it to be the same tone as a marvel film,because they are legitimately shit films with no style or consequence.

Simply put, they are saturday morning cartoons when SS is a very good comic and deserves better.
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>>81302686
that..

that would actually be brilliant
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>>81298702

Obligatory
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>>81298702
Give 2 minutes of Suicide Squad and then cut to something like Death to Smoochy or Stripes or Tropic Thunder.
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>>81302315
the 'fun' parts of the trailer were the editing and the music

I remember there being a quip from Harley about being schizophrenic that was edgy 13 year old tier and thus perfect for harley but terrible for any film outside of the 2000s
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>>81302585
Name one comic book movie that wasn't fun but was liked by everyone.

You can't.
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>>81302812
Road to Perdition
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>>81302812
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>>81302812
.
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>>81302269
>>81302375
She was still just second fiddle to the Joker. And it took many, many years for her to get spots on teams on equal grounds with the Joker and others.
She had a comic run of her own before, but it wasn't until the Nu52 that they pushed her along other major names.
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Am I the only one who's glad about this? The last thing I want is another boring grindmark like BvsS.
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>>81302812
The Crow, Dredd, A History of Violence, Oldboy, begins, dark knight, >>81302848, Lady Snowblood and for the most part BvS
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>>81302699
So basically what you are saying is that WB are incompetent jackasses and there's no middle road between actual fun movies and the piece of shit flops Snyder shits out.
When your movie universe is so shit that you couldn't possibly make something like Blue & Gold work in it, and you can't include Shazam in it then it's shit.
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>>81302946
I think that dude is full of shit but how were dredd and the dark knight not fun fucking movies?

I think you are confusing fun with lighthearted.
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>>81298702
You see what happens when trolling goes to far?
Now these assholes are going to ruin the best movie of the year.
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>>81298724
Or is it just fantasy?
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>>81298702
People like humor in movies. No this isn't just a "Marvel" thing. Light hearted humor can break up more serious drama.
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>>81302946
>BvS
definitely not liked by everyone
>Dredd
>Begins
>Dark Knight
pretty fun
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>>81302867
>>81302915
>>81302946

Movie that no one has heard of don't count.
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>>81302125

Where there's a Will, there's a way.
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>>81303011
I don't remember any humor in 12YAS and critics still jizzed themselves over that.
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>>81298809
I bet a pro editor could have taken a Queen song and all the small good scenes from BVS and made it look fun too.
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>>81303045

>Prove me wrong!
>Okay.
>N-No, it doesn't count...
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>>81303045
American Splendor was nominated for an Oscar, and Road to Perdition was nominated for 6
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>>81302202
What's with all the pictures of sad affleck? I haven't been to most threads cause I haven't seen the BvS yet
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>>81303045
>>81303135
and History of Violence for 2
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>>81298702
Dont worry guys, they are just adding in more Boomer.
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>>81303045
>And this is the trick
>where I make the goalposts move on their own
>honestly
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>>81298995
Okay.
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>>81298702
I'm conflicted.

Just becaus Snyder failed to make a Serious Cape movie doesn't mean it isn't possible. Or for Ayer to do it.

That being said, adding more humor doesn't mean it's a guarantee to make the movie worse. Some humor could add levity to scenes or make characters more likable.

But adding more humor doesn't mean it will automatically make the movie better. Bad jokes can make people groan and offend them. Too much or inappropriate humor could ruin the tensions of some scenes.
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>>81303070
That was a proper movie though, not capeshit.
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>>81303157
It's hilarious.
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>>81298702
...This is because of Batman v. Superman, isn't it?
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>>81303163
>More Jai Courtney
>A good thing
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>>81303157
Just look up Sad Affleck. It's from an interview
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEE
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>>81298702
Meme magic has no bounds. First Trump and now this.
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>>81303372
Why do people not like him? He wasn't bad in Spartacus.
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>>81303304
Maybe also this>>81301051
?
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>>81298702

Are you people retarded enough to believe this?
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>>81299133
Faraci actually said he liked BvS and that it was okay. Then he changed his mind and said it was worse than hitler when the movie came out.
Kind of like how he said Daredevil was getting bad buzz because he didnt like DD's dark tone. Or like how he kept shilling for Tranktastic4 because of Black Human Torch. Or when he said people who like DD more than Jessica Jones are sexist. I'm short, Faraci is a liar and an idiot.
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>>81300240
She had nothing to do with Suicide Squad until the abortion that was the nu52...
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>>81299054
>you got a movie full of meme actors
You are an actual retarded person. Nothing you say has value.
>>
Blockbuster reshoots never bode well. However, this sounds kind of sketchy.

>>81301982
...Have you read any Suicide Squad comics? Especially Ostrander's original run? Suicide Squad is largely a black comedy.
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>>81303507
Read the thread
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>BvS was too serious
>SS will be too comedic

FUCKING WHY??

DC just stop this madness!
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>>81298702
Thanks Feige
you visionary bastard
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>>81303045
History of Violence at least it's from Cronenberg
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>>81298702
OH I CAN'T WAIT
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MOM'S GONNA FLOP
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>>81302163
>he though it was a bad idea kill Zod on Man of Steel, they did it anyway
>he though it was a bad idea kill Superman on Batman v Superman, they did it anyway

They never learn
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>>81300295
it really is weird how much /tv/ overexaggerated the title drop
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>>81301074
delusional keks
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>>81304122
There is literally nothing /tv/ won't over exaggerate.
>>
Please tell me that headline isn't true. This movie looked perfect.
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>>81298998
That sounds like complete bullshit.
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>>81304175
Looked perfect in the trailers.
Because we all know cape films can never have misleading trailers.
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>>81303811
Yes a black comedy would be fine but I fear that they will go more for just comedy then black comedy.
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>>81304150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI9GyhX7yHM
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>>81304231
>Titans for Hire

No Anon, you stop that right now.
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>>81298702
this is the future you chose for turning your backs on the saviour of capeshit
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>>81304259
I needed something that looked like a black comedy and that page was the only I felt came close to one.
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>>81298809
It's the DCU
It's already doomed
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>>81304307
you couldn't've picked, I dunno, anything by Garth Ennis?
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>>81298702
Honestly, if all the movie's humor was limited to what was seen in the trailers, I think this change of direction is a good thing.
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>>81304395
That would require me to have something saved on that front.
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>>81301135
His wife is an executive producer at WB.
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>>81298702
Kek, the ship is sinking.
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>>81298702
Doomsday levers, because elephants and carp.

If you understand that joke there is no hope for you.
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>>81299215
I'm sure that's never gone wrong before
>Two guys, a girl, and the thing nobody wanted
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>>81300263
Nah she just knocked him out
>>
If BvS wasn't making a ton of money I might believe it but this is straight up bullshit clickbait to the nth degree.
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>>81304667
it isn't making a ton of money, it's dropping HARD
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>>81304568
fuck
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>>81304704
No it's not. It dropped on Easter, but went right back up.
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>>81304704
this is incorrect.
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>>81304667
It should be making twice what it is just domestic. Its not and that is clearly a problem. Plenty are reporting on this now anyway.
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>>81304667
I don't think its making enough money for Warner to be happy about it.
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>>81304744
>>81304779
it's been going down pretty significantly every day

granted, we'll have to wait until the weekend to see if it's really tanking, but it's not looking good
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>>81304568

HAHA US GAMERS, RIGHT?

US GAMERS
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>people want a R-rated Suicide Squad
>get a PG quipfest instead

thanks Marvel
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>>81300276
You've never heard it said out loud?

I mean, it's a real word and shit, people do use it outside of Marvel movie memes...
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>>81299054
>funnest character
>doesn't post Boomerang
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>>81304845
Money isn't as good as it should be for a massive tentpole and the reviews are utter shit.

So both of those adding up to a die situation.
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>>81302946
>Dredd, Oldboya and Dark Knight trilogy not fun
It seams a lot of DCucks are misinterpreting what audiences and critics mean by a "fun" movie.

Fun =/= comedic, lighthearted or unserious
Fun = a trill ride type experience

The Dark Knight is a dark, serious and trilling (aka fun) cinematic experience

Batman v Superman is a dull, stupid and boring (aka joyless) film.

A movie doesn't need to be a quipfest to be fun.
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>>81303045
I imagine you must get quite a workout from moving those goalposts all day.
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>>81304930
Right this is just making this more a personal intergrated team.
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>>81304868
It's probably too late for THIS movie since a large portion of it is already done, but I'm sure Deadpool made WB more open to R rated movies for the inevitable sequels. That's why they announced an R rated home release of BvS when they did. Gotta piggyback on whatever's popular, as is their way. Imagine getting the GotG and Deadpool audiences all at once.
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>>81304930
Now if only Warner Bros could understand this.
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>>81302994
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>>81298702
>make a suicide squad movie
>they ACTUALLY tried to make it grimdark

How fucking stupid do you have to be?
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>>81304930

I found BvS fun. What now, faggot?
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>>81299781
It did a huge disservice to the characters and comics to fall in line with the Marvel formula. Rocket was good, though
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>>81299246
>Ayer actually likes these characters
>casts Will Smith as Deadshot

Also Ben looks like he just wants to go home.
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>>81305133
Well their "Brain Trust" made it seem like that was a good idea. Thanks Snyder.
>>
Ironic
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>>81298702
They're going to try to be GotG
down to the dance-off moment, except missing the entire point of the scene
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>>81305214
I dunno, I could see Joker getting into an unironic danceoff at some point

then just shooting his opponent at the end
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>>81305152
No one cares, Snyder
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>>81305152
Well, that's just your opinion. I'm my opinion, the film is soul suckingly boring, it felt like I was sitting in front of a dementor for hours. It killed all my enthusiasm for the DCEU. I felt depressed the next day, it was so bad.
>>
>>81299054
>>81304918
Those are funny ways of spelling Plastic Man
>>
>they're genuinely going to include a HOL UP scene
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>>81299054
>Harley
>funnest character in DC
are you high
>>
>>81298702
Just finished reading the news. Urg, so the critics really complaint about the quib? This is bullshit now. My problem with BvS is that it is BORING and shit has nothing to do with quib. Nolan Dark Knight was dark and gritty too but it's still fun to watch.

What the hell are you doing WB, Are you going to make this movie a literally Suicide Squad? It will fucking bomb if you rush thing like this.

If this new this true then RIP WB and DCEU.
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>>81305335
fucking meme magic
>>
>>81305335
I'VE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFUCKING SNAKES ON THIS MOTHERFUCKING PLANE
>>
>>81299054
I'm just glad Harley has blonde hair again.
>>
Damage Control v Blunder of the Year
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>>81302977
you're just rambling now
>>
>One of the biggest complaints about "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" from critics and comics fans alike is that it's simply too miserable. The Zack Snyder-directed blockbuster is missing the fun element that draws readers to the comic books and masses to Marvel's lighter-toned movies like "The Avengers" and "Guardians of the Galaxy."

>Now the studio behind "Batman v Superman," Warner Bros., is reportedly trying to remedy the problem for its future comic book movies.

>According to Birth Movies Death, the studio has requested reshoots of its summer DC Comics adaptation, "Suicide Squad," that would give the film a playfulness that fans reacted positively to in its trailer.

>It turns out, all the jokes in the movie have already been revealed in the trailer, according to Birth Movies Death.

>This might not mean you will see cast members Will Smith, Margot Robbie, and Jared Leto throw out one-liners, but director David Ayer will most likely shoot some more fun interactions among the characters to give viewers more chances to giggle than they did while watching "Batman v Superman."
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>>81302983
nah, but but the person i replied to infered that a non light hearted film is bad
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>>81303372
Courtney's pretty good at times, SS seems to show he's the best thing about it so far
>>
>>81300276
kwhip
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>>81298702
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>>81305558
>Birth Movies Death
literally just read an article by this guy saying that all comic are kid-unfriendly these day
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>>81298702
i havent been following this like at all but the bvs preview piqued my interest. is it a seperate dccu canon?
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>>81305703
nope, same continuity

Batfleck is in the opening scene
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>>81298702
I feel like a lot of people are so incredibly convinced that they are smarter than Zack Snyder, and yet Snyder is the one who keeps getting paid a buttload of money to make his particular brand of movie. At some point, maybe some self-reflection might be a good idea. I'm not saying that the filmmaker is always inherently better than the critic, but in this case, maybe saying "I know what this movie is saying, but the director is far too dumb to do the same" is not giving the guy enough credit. I mean, listing off all of the different references to not only comics, but myth, cinema, and religion, clearly a lot of thought has been put into this movie.
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>>81300196
She was one of the few major female characters around in 2007 when it became okay for women to be interested in comics.
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>>81305750
Snyder tries to tell something and fails at it.

And what he's telling isn't good anyway.
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>>81305750
It's Hollywood. Connections matter infinitely more than talent.
You're forgetting this is the same industry, same studio even, that said a hairdresser from Malibu was the ideal guy to mastermind the Superman movie franchise.

Zack Snyder has friends in high places. Everyone knows this. There is a reason his wife is listed as a producer on all this stuff.
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>>81305152
i concur
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>>81299924
Just /tv/ and just because of the amount of jokes in it.
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>>81301504
After seeing the trailer, my hopes were pretty high.
After hearing the trailer contained every single joke in the movie and they now have to film some more, I'm a little less hype.
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>>81305852
is the reason because his wife is the friend in high places?
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>>81305750

The thing i find odd is that everybody is dismissing BvS because of Zack Snyder, but he didn't wrote the script. Chris Terio did. But you don't see people blaming the story, for whatever it's purpose, on Terio. They blame Snyder.
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>>81305750
having a bunch of references doesn't make a good movie

>>81305910
they're blaming Snyder because it has shit directing
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>>81303811
Black comedy would be instantly labeled "edgy"
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>>81305558
>It turns out, all the jokes in the movie have already been revealed in the trailer
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>>81299877
>Forgettable
for someone with a bad memory
>easily beaten villain
you mean the unstoppable villain that was only taken down after 4 heroes had to hold onto an infinite stone to keep stable?

>jokes, quips, witty one-liners, etc.
nothing wrong with these
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>>81305910
>The thing i find odd is that everybody is dismissing BvS because of Zack Snyder, but he didn't wrote the script.
Okay listen. You saw this exact same argument with Man of Steel, which had similar scripting problems. So let's go over this again:

The role of director is NOT as cut and dry as you think it is. Depending on their personal preference and level of involvement, many directors also contribute in the writing room. The ability to make changes to the script is well within their sphere of influence. A writer's movie script is not sacrosanct or immutable, because at the end of the day, it has to be shot, and the director is the one that gets to decide to interpret that. The director is the one that ultimately has the creative vision put on screen; that's why they're generally a bigger deal and more famous than script writers.

BvS is *absolutely* due to Zack Snyder. The buck stops with him. It always did.

Case in point, many of the same flaws that people have for BvS were present not only in Man of Steel, but are all OVER the place in Sucker Punch, which was 100% Zack with nobody to hide behind.
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>>81305938

>they're blaming Snyder because it has shit directing

Nobody's blaming the weird editing on Brenner or the story on Terio. They're blaming everything on Snyder. Specially the story for being dumb or devoid of meaning because Snyder's a dudebro or whatever despite him not being a script-writer for the movie.

Heck, there are people still blaming Goyer despite knowing that the script was rewritten by Terio.
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>>81305750
Its especially frustrating when you know Snyders background, it really helps understand him as an artist and absolutely destroys the preconceived notions of him as some dudebro comic nerd who only makes shallow stylistic CGIfests. The dude was raised a Christian Scientist and went to a school for Christian Scientists where his mother taught painting, then went to a fine art school in England to study painting and after that went to Art Center of College and Design where he graduated with Michael Bay(which is almost too perfect).

So here we have a guy with a life raised in a very strange sect of Christianity(hm, I wonder why he has such a hard on for Christian iconography) who is highly educated in the world of art. Im sure the guy has lots of paintings hes done, at the very least those he did in an educational environment and Id love to see some of them to get kind of personal look into the guys art.

He is a clumsy story teller and its something Ill always admit, but he is probably one of the most fascinating Hollywood directors to me simply because he invokes this reaction in people that I truly only believe important artists can achieve. You have plenty of bad movies that come and go, people shit on them and forget about them and move on, but rarely do you see a blockbuster like this creating such a shit storm. I have never once seen a movie that has critics writing think pieces about the nature of movie criticism and defending their role in the industry, its insane. This movie is fucking BREAKING people and its incredible.
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>>81305558
>" that would give the film a playfulness that fans reacted positively to in its trailer.
>>It turns out, all the jokes in the movie have already been revealed in the trailer, according to Birth Movies Death.
Putting aside everything else this is NEVER a good thing. It's a large part of what made the Simpsons Movie so god awful.
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>>81301268
blame Warner Bros. for not understanding how to make movies when it comes to their characters
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>>81305910
People are blaming Snyder because he directed the movie, cut it, set it together in a editing room, cast Quiptor Lex and butchered the whole story. He's the one responsible for the final product. Not Terio. He was the one that made these stupid icons for the laptop cameo's. He is the one who fucked up.
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>>81306057

>Okay listen. You saw this exact same argument with Man of Steel, which had similar scripting problems.

Christopher Nolan and David Goyer were the main guys responsible for the Man of Steel's script. Nolan brought Nolan for his visuals, but the first alien contact approach came from Nolan and the heavy-handed Lois' investigations came from Goyer. Snyder only wanted to expend on the fights. Specially in the last fight where he agreed with Goyer that Zod should be killed.
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>>81303062
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>>81303476
yeah I never understood the hate around him, I like him, maye he just turns up in movies people dont like?
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>>81306161

>He was the one that made these stupid icons for the laptop cameo's

Maybe that was Terio's idea. How would you know?
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>>81306215
He's given bland action roles like Sam Worthington

Thankfull Boomer seems to be the opposite
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>>81302163
>Tim Burton didn't direct or write Nightmare Before Christmas, but look who's name is on the title
Tim Burton did write it, he just didnt direct it
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>>81298995
>implying Injustice Harley is bad
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>>81303157
It's Affleck when he hears the reviews of BvS. No bullshit.
pic unreleated.
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>>81306079
Synder should never have touched the Big Two cape stuff. He should have stuck to Dark Horse/Image/Vertigo.
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>>81306268
regardless of what Terrio wrote, what we saw is how Snyder and the actors (at Snyder's direction) chose to interpret his words

a movie script is not the Bible, and the scriptwriter is not God. At the end of the day the director has final say on what is in the movie
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>>81306280
but he isnt bad in those roles, its the movies themselves that are bland

he was good as John McClane's son in Die Hard 5, but Die Hard 5 wasnt good or interesting

and Kyle Reese in Terminator Genisys was interesting, with good connection to Sarah Conner, but Genisys was pretty dull and bad
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>>81306175
Yes, Goyer is the one CREDITED for being in charge of the script, but credits don't actually reflect the process as accurately as you're claiming. Don't get me wrong. Goyer was a good 50% of the problem himself. But for example if Snyder says "I want X to happen. Write a scene where it does", Goyer is still technically the writer, but the core of the idea and how it fits into the rest of the movie, that's all on Snyder. Snyder is still, in effect, doing writing by enforcing his ideas onto the story.

Additionally, Snyder argued for the ending, and has done many interviews where he's detailed the changes to the script he wanted to make. All the misapplied savior imagery that runs contradictory to much of the plot is also his doing. If you want to argue with the man himself you're welcome to do so but you need something to support it.
A director has to be able to tell a story. Snyder isn't a director. He's a cinematographer. Maybe even a really good one. But he's playing at directing.

And to flip this around on you, I find it weird how when something is bad you all want to blame Goyer, Nolan, and Terrio, but when something is good, you don't mention the DPs or the gaffers or the dozens of other effects guys that are doing the ACTUAL heavy lifting.
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>>81306294
didnt burton just desin the main characters?
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>>81306362
Snyder just needs to steer clear of movies in general, he's awful
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>>81306268
Because it makes more seanse. Think about it. The script for the movie contains plot and the general idea of where the movie is going. Terio could just write "Wonder Skeleton opens files on a laptop that contain cameo's from Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg". It's the directors work to putt it into action and make a movie out of a piece of paper.
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>>81300276
Equip without the e
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Marvel innovates while DC desperately chases after them for more sales and fail and also die.

This'll just be a poor man's Guardians of the Galaxy, just like how Batman vs. Superman was a poor man's Age of Ultron.
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>>81305619
No, he implied that.
Fucking learn the difference.
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>>81305535
Thankfully your shit taste will be contained when Snyder is removed.
Hopefully his shit tone will be gone by the time they get to Shazam, and it will be included in the continuity.
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>>81298702

They won't be able to make the reshoots look organic so:

Cutaways a la Family Guy.
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>>81306480
>Marvel innovates
hahahahahahahahaha...here your (you)
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>>81306602

Stay salty, DCuck. :^)
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>>81298702
>reshoots to make the film garbage
Hope you MCUcks are happy. You ruined a great intellectual universe because of "muh fun".
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>>81306399
>Snyder: Hey Goyer, write a scene where where one of Zod's people talks about how they're evolutionarily better than Superman because he's moral and Christian
>Goyer: But Zack, that makes no sense. I wrote the Kryptonians as having a society with genetic engineering. They have no evolution.
>Snyder: Evolution, genetic engineering, it's all that anti-religious scientist crap. It fits, just do it.
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>>81306480
The funniest thing is that DC has the perfect opportunity to fix one of Marvel's biggest problems by fleshing out the movie verse with their superior villains.
Instead they choose to shit all over Lex Luthor's characterization and make the same movies Marvel does, but without jokes because that's how much of a retarded simpleton Snyder is.
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>>81306268
Because despite the fact that you disagree and are unwilling to accept it, there's only one common thread between Snyder's movies, many of which are flat out bad. And that thread is Snyder himself.

It's like there's a string of serial murders and you see the exact same guy covered in blood at each scene, and you, after five appearances are still thinking "Nah, nothing suspect here"
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>>81306399

Nolan had almost no influence in Man of Steel according to Goyer other than the visual style and the fight scenes. Goyer said that he had the script and gave it to Nolan who was excited about it and together they got the movie going, mainly because of Nolan's influence, and that it was Nolan that got Snyder on-board.

I've read the interviews. The ending wasn't Snyder's ideas. It was Goyer. Snyder just agreed and backed him up.

You just want to hate on the man.
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>>81298702
Add more Harley.
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>>81306681

Snyder's only bad movie is Sucker Punch.
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I legitimately do not think WB knows what they are doing anymore
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>>81300132
Damn son your taste is SHIT.
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>>81306684

>SNYDER had almost no influence in Man of Steel according to Goyer


Fix'd.

>>81306659

The religious crap came from Goyer, because according to him Superman is both Old Testament and New Testament and it was time for them to own to it.

Don't believe me? Read the interviews Goyer gave instead of creating fanfics to hate Snyder.
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>>81298702
How desperate and reactionary can WB get? Their management is bad enough already.

It's like they're actively trying to make the shittiest capeshit possible.
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>>81306723
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DC is playing catch up to Marvel and fucks itself in the process.

What else is new? This has been going on since as far back as I can remember.
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>>81306433
pleb
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>>81306012
>nothing wrong with these

humor is for children.

t. zack snyder
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Warner is going to completely fuck everything up aren't they?

What they need to do is play BvS off as the growing pains of the DCU, then have the tone of future films get lighter because Superman is actually making their world a better place.

DC films need to become more like Superman the movie, not more like marvel.
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>>81306072
>still defending snyder

how many shit films must he make before you blame him for one? his entire filmography bar Dawn of the Dead and maybe 300 is garbage.
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>Marvel isn't content fucking up their own properties
>have to shitpost until all of DC's movies follow the Marvel Formula™ too
JUST
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>>81306651
>"muh fun"
not our fault we tested our waters before making new non-grimdark edge movies
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>>81306886

I'm defending Snyder because people only pile on him. You want to complain about the bad directing? Fine. But blaming the guy for FUCKING EVERYTHING? Why not blame Terio for the story and the dialogues? Why not blame Brenner for the weird editing?

That's my main grip. The same with MoS. People blame Snyder for the religious crap or Krypton sequence when those came from Goyer and Nolan. Blame the DBZ fights and CGI on Snyder. That was him.
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>>81306684
>Snyder just agreed and backed him up.
And you're underplaying how much that matters because you want to defend the man.
Again, what you see on screen is what the director wants there.

I don't want Goyer in the industry either but I don't think its a coincidence that almost all of Snyder's movies have been panned worth than Shyamalan's and I've not seen his defense force explain it in any ways other than "he's too smart for this world" or "it's a massive conspiracy".

Occam's razor that shit man. Maybe he's just not that good.
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>>81306886
>bar Dawn of the Dead and maybe 300

When are YOU going to stop making excuses for him?
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>>81306651
I love this "x went wrong with the movie, blame Marvel" dank meme
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>>81306764
>Don't believe me? Read the interviews Goyer gave instead of creating fanfics to hate Snyder.
Link them then.
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>Wonder Woman getting reshoots to be more of a "solo" film with less connections to BvS
>SS getting reshot to be more "fun"
>Aquaman promising to be more "fun"
>Justice League recently announced to be "lighter and more fun"
>Two Lego Batman movie trailers in the same week as if WB wants to remind us "Don't worry, we know Batman is still wacky!" (Admittedly, when it comes to Lego, this is a good thing and the movie seems funny enough)

Have you ever seen a studio collectively lose its shit from one movie before?
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>>81306991
because you're getting Terrio's story and dialogue through someone else's lens

Terrio might not have written a very good script, but we're still experiencing it through Snyder's shit direction
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>>81298702
As if this movie wasn't gonna suck even harder. But you know what, they really do know how to take advantage of idiots.
>Dude did you hear the C U H R A Y Z E E stuff Jared Leto is doing?
>Lol Harley Quinn is such a goof
>OMG QUEEN!!!
>Looks so awesome and epic
>#SuicideSquad
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>>81306991
You know by your argument we might as well kick Snyder out since he's so easily replaceable.
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>>81307092
Leto being a weird shithead off-camera doesn't necessarily speak to the quality of the movie itself
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>>81307006

I blame him for a lot of shit, i don't don't him for everything like you guys do.

The weird expository dialogues from Man of Steel? Goyer. The weird oh so smart dialogues that meant nothing in BvS? Terio. The huge stupid fight at the end with Skrillex Doomsday? Snyder.

I know who to blame.
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>>81307140
Maybe we should just get rid of all of them
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>>81305386
>My problem with BvS is that it is BORING and shit has nothing to do with quib. Nolan Dark Knight was dark and gritty too but it's still fun to watch.
Everyone hates the Nolan movies now(and by everyone I mean critics and SJWs who turned their back on the trilogy because of te MCU's dank memes)
Superhero movies are never allowed to be be dark again because of Marvel Studios.

THANKFULLY, Fox still exists and the X-Men are fighting Jehovah. And the Wolverine solo movie is going to be R-Rated. Get Fucked, pussies!
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>>81307117

You easily can. He's there mostly because he's seen as a comic-book guy. The dude that know how to turn each scene like they're from comic book page or whatever. That's why he's there. You can easily replace him.
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>>81298702
They're adding in more maymays to match Deadpool
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>>81307140
So who's fault is Watchmen?
>Watchmen was good!
No, Watchmen fundamentally misunderstood the core premise that the characters were sad, pathetic fuck ups. Comics Nite Owl is a pudgy loser with erectile dysfunction that wastes his money on frivolous gadgets. Movie Nite Owl is Bear Mode Batman with borderline super strength kung fu powers.

Who's fault is Suckerpunch being a disjointed mis-mash of "cool" scenes and dream sequences filled with pseudo philosophy but lacking in substantial character depth? (Huh. That sounds familiar)

You DON'T know who to blame, because you're ignoring the common thread across several bad movies.
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>>81307168
>Everyone hates the Nolan movies now(and by everyone I mean critics and SJWs who turned their back on the trilogy because of te MCU's dank memes)
This is not true

Well maybe TDKR got some flack but BB and TDK are still loved
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>>81307130
You'd be surprised how many people I've talked to who have noted that as a positive for the film, saying that it gives the movie more 'edge', or something of the sorts.
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>>81307073
Not in quite the same way, but look into how Fox tried to sweep Fantastic 4 under the rug.
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No, seriously, I don't understand what's this fixation audiences - /co/ included - have with "fun" and "comfy" and non-"mean-spirited" content? Is this really this age's paradigm? Inoffensive, quip-laden, sanitized saccharine stories? Is this what storytellers of this time are going to have to cash in to, if they want to see any money from their work?
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>>81306079
>fascinating Hollywood directors to me simply because he invokes this reaction in people that I truly only believe important artists can achieve. You have plenty of bad movies that come and go, people shit on them and forget about them and move on, but rarely do you see a blockbuster like this creating such a shit storm. I have never once seen a movie that has critics writing think pieces about the nature of movie criticism and defending their role in the industry, its insane. This movie is fucking BREAKING people and its incredible.


This criticism while focused on Snyder and his work Has little to do with him and almost entirely the characters he's using. The hating and forgetting you talk about did happen with Snyders Sucker Punch. There was some criticism of 300 but no one really cared about the accuracy or character of the Spartan myth so it does just fade over time.Watchmen, I can't speak for you but it's almost entirely brought up here and other than that people liked it or forgot about the problems they had because they weren't really comicbook fans before. This is Superman and his world by extension. Superman is on a level of popularity with Jesus and Santa, regardless of religion or region or culture there is a good chance you know Superman at least a little bit. People went in with very strong expectations of what that should be and Snyder like the rest of his movies kind of misses the point of the overall story and how to tell it. He kind of ignores character traits for whatever it is he wants to see or do. The reason people haven't been able to let MoS go and are disappointed and carrying that hate over to BvS is because it's Superman.
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>>81307256

Watchmen was bad because Snyder only wanted to do cool scenes. I know that. I blame the violence of BvS on Snyder as well.

Still i won't blame the man for everything.
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>>81307302
That's not really losing it's shit. That's more like "This was a mistake, let's pretend it never happened and it will be better for everyone".

This is affecting every movie
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>>81307168
>Everyone hates the Nolan movies now(and by everyone I mean critics and SJWs who turned their back on the trilogy because of te MCU's dank memes)

what the fuck are you talking about? literally the only place where they get regular hate is 4chan thanks to /tv/'s dank CIA/Bane memes.
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>>81307348
Nobody's blaming Snyder for the soundtrack.
But going "The director is powerless to change dialogue" is stupid since we know that's not the case.
Going "The director can't do anything about the Jesus imagery!" is silly because IT'S FUCKING IMAGERY. That is literally his job!
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>>81307333
Yet another nigga who seems to think the word "fun" means "Age of Ultron that shit up". >>81304930 made it very clear

I mean, Interstellar was a critical and financial darling and that's pretty science and feels heavy so clearly being "soft and easy to understand" isn't the problem. You know what the problem is though? Snyder
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>>81307333
>why don't audiences want boring dull blockbusters?

who knows man
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>>81307418
No see Terrio and Goyer has Snyder's mom hostage. There was nothing Snyder could do.
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>>81302812
Fun is subjective and what one person considers fun another person doesn't.

Some people consider Kill Bill fun. Some people consider The Revenant fun. Some people consider Sophie's choice fun. Some people consider Zootopia fun. Ect.
It's a buzzword

Which makes Op sound terrible since what WB consider's fun is throwing quips and jokes in a bunch because marvel studios did it when doing that could cause the movie to fail. Because adding jokes in scenes doesn't automatically "fun". It needs to blend well.
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>>81307418

Snyder isn't a writer, though. That's my main grip with the whole thing. Snyder just wants to shoot cool things. The story comes from Goyer's influence and then Terio's script and WB desire to follow Nolan's vision and stand themselves out from MU.

Snyder isn't the type of guy who'd want to change the script significantly other than maybe insert a cool sequence full of violence and style.
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>>81307486
Suits misinterpret what people want?
That's unpossible!
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I really love this idea that somehow Marvel "brainwashed the masses" and shit. The movie can't possibly have its own faults. The studio can't possibly not have any idea what their doing. No, we gotta blame somebody else
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>>81299781
It's DC apologists, who can't reconcile the success of a film about a team nobody has heard of, in a completely unrealistic setting, with a bright color pallette and upbeat soundtrack.
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>>81307279
>>81307399
Nope. They are all hated now. And more people continue to hate them because SJWs like Moviebob as Dorkly tell people to hate them and that you should only like Guardians of the Galaxy.
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>>81307073
Never. This is a one-of-a-kind meltdown. I feel bad for DC.
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>>81307544
you're just making shit up

everyone still loves ledger joker.
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>>81298702
Make it more like Ant-Man
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>>81307587
Nope. He's edgy. DC is terrible. Villains need to be fun. Like Loki. And Trevor. Marvel Studios for the Win.
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>>81307530
Welcome to "Company Wars"!
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>>81307544
>Nope. They are all hated now.
Where are you seeing this?
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>>81298702
Suicide squad on suicide watch
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>>81307502
>Snyder isn't a writer, though.
That doesn't stop him from trying.
Again, the role of the director isn't just "make stuff look cool". A director's task is to craft the narrative; it is in effect if not name. MANY elements of a director's job are things that you should consider "writing". Including stuff like storyboarding, dialogue, continuity. If a DIRECTOR, not a writer, goes "This scene doesn't gel with the message I'm trying to send or the theme I want to base the movie around", he's got the power to cut that scene. Director trumps writer.

Snyder is a cinematographer. He's a visuals guy. And ONLY a visuals guy. He's trying to be more than that. He shouldn't.
He should be consulted for visuals only, not for interpretations of characters, not for judging acting performances, not for imparting theme or narrative depth. Snyder is the guy you call in for one fight scene and then tell him to fuck off until the next movie. MAYBE if you're feeling especially ballsy you have him edit your trailer after all the other shooting is done, otherwise you keep him as far away from anything remotely resembling creative control as possible.

And even then he should be kept on a fairly short leash to make sure his visual sequences fit in with the rest of the movie. They tend not to.
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>>81307523
Yep. Exactly.
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>>81306842
Ryan Reynolds remembers that humor can be for adults.
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>>81307694
The Internet.
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>>81307708

>He's trying to be more than that. He shouldn't.

Can you back this up? I bet you can't.
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>>81307726
Yeah, but only of that humor is GOOD. Just because your movie has humor or quips doesn't make it good.
COUGHGREENLANTERNCOUGH
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>>81306571
still rambling, also do you have touretts because you swear so much its funny.
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>>81307701
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>>81299246
Yeah but they all got shitty prison tattoos of suicide squad
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>>81307073
And this is worrisome as they seriously think fun=quib, right now. This is fucking sad, honesly.

You knows when DC and Marvel went full quib then the super heroes genre will die fast just like all those gramp director and producer predict and the only survivor of this mess will be FOX.
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>>81307797
well he decided making Lex Luthor a fast-talking addlebrained lunatic was a good idea

he also couldn't pull a good performance out of Cavill, who definitely has the potential to be an optimistic figure, but for some reason was told to be a dour and contemplative Superman
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>>81307797
I could. All I'd need would be a movie that's 100% Snyder's brainchild. A movie he wrote, directed, and edited himself, from start to finish, with no outside influence.

Oh wait! I have that! And it's his worst movie!
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Wait do people seriously not want Joker and Harley of all people making jokes or anything like that, fucking Joker?
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>>81307333

Speaking from personal experience.

When I was younger ( and this isn't a "young" thing) i would read more, I had a broader range of interests, I liked to be exposed to things that had wider depth of emotion to it. It was informative and enlightening. As I got older and bills started piling up and life wasn't really going according to plan and I didn't really have time to just do the stuff I liked without worrying should I be doing this instead or preparing whatever for tomorrow. You get up and you really don't like the people you work with and there's just a dozen little moments in a day when someone is being selfish or a dick or "mean spirited". When I have time to go out and and spend money on something like a movie or a comic or music I don't want DEEP I couldn't give a shit about thought provoking. I sure as hell don't want to be reminded that the world is FULL OF ASSHOLES, just every where you look assholes. I want to relax, I want to have fun. I appreciate comfy. And alternatively when life takes a little up turn and I can get some breathing room and I'm not so stressed out all the damn time. I find my self more interested in well rounded material. I think most of the time for most people life is kicking their ass and they don't want to go see something that just reminds them that life is unfair and people are judgemental shits and no matter how hard you try to do what's right someone is going to have a problem with it. They want to have fun vicariously through others, they want to be reminded or lied to that if you keep working at it things are going to work out eventually. I do.
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>>81307073
>Wonder Woman getting reshoots to be more of a "solo" film with less connections to BvS

Source or STFU.
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>>81298809
Thats the reality of DC movies: they dont follow a director vision, but trends and percentages from a bunch of executive suits who honestly dont give a flying fuck to comics.
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>>81308037
No, it's just that the movie looked fun from the trailers (though hearing every joke in the movie was in said trailers is interesting) and now it feels like they're gonna make some dumbass choices
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>>81307965
>when DC and Marvel went full quib
Why does everybody think every MCU movie is Age of Ultron all of a sudden?

I can't believe the shitstorm from that thread where the commercial where Hawkeye drops that line and everybody lost it. Like come on.
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>>81302495
>IM3, Thor 2, GotG, AoU
>uplifting

Really? All I remember is the cringy, memey humor like the Mandarin reveal or "DANCE OFF, BRAW!"

The Winter Soldier is hailed as the best Marvel capefilm in a long time. Guess why? Precisely because it put the quips and levity aside for a few minutes and actually dared to have a heavy, more sober plotline.
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>>81308044
So basically you want the experience of a safe space in your entertainment. OK. That's cool for you. Some of us don't, though.
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>>81298702
It's bait to get people to come see the movie after Dawn of Justice being boring.
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>People actually believing this
Holy shit some of you faggots will believe literally anything.

Every site that's reporting this is getting their info from the same site source.
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>>81308182
>"DANCE OFF, BRAW!"
Yes, the turd blossom scene was awkward, but the rest of the movie was awesome and I'd call it uplifting.
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>>81298702
Gotta punch it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK9decuuPC0
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>>81308182
>memey humor

what the fuck is wrong with you. besides i didn't see many quips regarding all the mom stuff star-lord dealt with.
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>>81308172
I'm not saying all their film is like that but I said when both of DC and Marvel went full quib in the future then it's doom.
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>>81301412
>Ayer said a long time ago that people will be surprised at how funny the movie is. This is clickbait at its finest.

Exactly. Since the start he's been trying to explain it's not another gritty superhero movie, this article is full of shit.
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>>81308366
it's quip, jesus christ
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>>81308182
>everything about the movie is these two dank memes posted over and over

I don't know about Thor 2, but IM3 is a pretty clear "hero falls and rises" story with that awesome airplane rescue and GotG is really hopeful with it's bad guys get a second chance and do something good for their lives (and win straight up because of The Power of Friendship)

I don't know about AoU being uplifting at all because it felt like that movie needed to exist to set up CW but seeing the Avengers save civilians or the scenes with Hawkeye's family were nice
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>>81308172
>Why does everybody think every MCU movie is Age of Ultron all of a sudden?
Why indeed?
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>>81308366
>when both of DC and Marvel went full quib in the future then it's doom.
Well they got rid of Whedon so I don't see that happening
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>>81308182
>autists are still upset about the mandarin reveal

haha fucking nerds.
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>>81307333
>and non-"mean-spirited" content? I
Oh, we all want it to be very Mean Spirited. But yes, we also want it to be fun. it's Suicide Squad after all, it fit perfectly to the tone of the series.

But it's true for all, it's not about being sanitized or "audience-friendly" it's simply about the movie being enjoyable to watch.

Mind you there is nothing wrong with making a movie adaptation that would be Dark and Broody, but every attempt has turned into complete failure. It's not dislkied because it's Dark and Broody, it's disliked because it's bad. Simply, only Movie comic I can think of that managed to do it right (and is overall liked by /co/) is the Sin City movie. tO few have managed to meet that marlk.

As for the quip, it's an unpopular opinion from my part, but I consider Quip as being part of the DNA of cape-comics. I like Quip, but quip by itself doesn't make a movie good. but it doesn't make it bad either.
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>>81308366
you realize the comics that superhero films are adapted from are full of quips and one liners right?

you realize action movies in general love quips and oneliners right?
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>>81308198
>Some of us don't, though.

True, and I don't all the time. I just think you're in the minority. And that means you're going to have to look harder for the material you want. People do make things you'd like they just don't make the money or get the attention more widely accessible things do. At the core of any company that's putting up money to produce things it's in the hopes of making more money in return. So if you like anything that isn't popular you usually have to go out of your way to find it. It's one of those shitty things about life.
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>>81308436
>two movies have jokes and are comedic thus they are the same

why are you so dumb
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>>81308436
Did you have a point to make or was all you could think of was a dank meme?
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>>81307073
>Have you ever seen a studio collectively lose its shit from one movie before?
Sony after Amazing Spider-Man 2

>We're totally going to make part three and part four! They even have release dates!
>AND a spinoff about the Sinister Six
>And a spinoff about a female character
>Maybe even Aunt May gets a solo movie! Anything's possible!
>We're gonna do Sinister Six before the next Spider-Man movie and maybe it'll be a franchise!
>Forget it, just call Disney
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>>81308464
>but I consider Quip as being part of the DNA of cape-comics

anyone who doesn't recognize this is a fucking casual.
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>>81308543
True. I guess Sony would be probably much worse than this since they went full SHUT IT DOWN
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>>81308044

Friendly advice, buddy: Happiness comes from within. YOU have to construct your own happiness; it is not going to come and just sit on your lap on its own. That is to say, and with this I go against the usual interpretation, that I'm quite certain that if you were suddenly transported into a perfect utopia world where everybody is nice, all women are qts and want your cock, money literally grows on trees and everything is good and comfy and safe - you would still hate it.

Because that's what unhappy people do - no matter where they are, no matter how bright things might be, they'll always focus on the negative and garrison back into their warrens.


Finally, if you can't tell apart real-life meanness from fictional meanness, you might have autism. Or schizophrenia.
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>By Devin Faraci
>cites "excellent source"
move along people. nothing to see here.

Also
>this is the guy who didn't have Superman and Wonder Woman speak one word to each other
But they literally did speak to each other....
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>>81308464
>there is nothing wrong with making a movie adaptation that would be Dark and Broody
The box offices disagree
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>>81308631
>But they literally did speak to each other....
They didn't really have an actual conversation, she responsded to a thing he said
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>>81308533
Yeah, I admit it was my fault for expecting an interesting villain from Marvel™.
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>>81308664
>she responsded to a thing he said
So they talked?
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>>81308683
meant for >>81308452
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>People want their movies to be entertaining
>This triggers /co/
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>>81308683
>mandarin
>ever interesting
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>>81308709
WW: "What is that thing" [she says to no one in particular, mainly Batman]
Supes: (this is the only point she actually acknowledges he's there) "That thing comes from another world. My world"
WW: [again not actually looking in Supes' general direction] "I've killed things from other worlds before"

Great conversation
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>>81308641
LOL
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>>81308400
Oops, sorry and thanks.

>>81308496
The genre will die fast if every company keep producing the same thing, anon. They need to differentiate from each other. DC and WB trying to be NotMarvel is not a very good sign.
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Holy fucking shit look at the comments on the Polygon article.

DCEU is dead on arrival. People have turned against it and will find anything to shit on about it.

What can DC/WB do to win people back? Should they even bother trying since it seems normies and internet "huge comicbook nerds" have already chosen Marvel. .
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>>81308742
In comparison with "Tony Stark's evil counterpart #3", yes, Kinglsey's character was definitely more colorful and threatening. The head terrorist behind the Ten Rings, who held Tony captured in IM1 and set Whiplash free in IM2.

Of course, it was clear in IM2 that consistency means zero to the chuckleheads at Marvel.
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>>81308543
If only they did not rush thing....man.
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>>81308774
>Great conversation
I never fucking said they had a great conversation.

That faggot Faraci claimed they never even SPOKE to each other. I pointed out that that was objectively false.
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>>81308859
>Kinglsey's character was definitely more colorful and threatening

trevor was superior though.
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>>81308845
Just confident in themselves and do what the fuck they want. They lose their shit and try to change thing here and there will make everything worse.
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>>81308798
I wouldn't say Hellboy is dark and broody. At least, not Hellboy 2.
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>>81308951
>Just confident in themselves
And that's the problem. Theyr'e not
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>>81308798
Half those movies are from like ten years ago. Times change; people change, too, and people want funny, safe comedic "action" films so they can dump their kids at the theater all day.
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>>81308976
Yeah, WB is always like that and that is the very reason they never win.
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>>81298702
so DCU is dead on arrival? Just make Batman movies again and let it go
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>>81306651
We didn't direct your piece of shit movies
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>>81308737
Give /co/ some credit. There's more than one way for a film to be "entertaining." These reshoots could enhance the intent of the original film or repackage it for a completely different audience, and what should or will happen are legitimate questions.
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>>81306764
So why'd it continue in BvS?
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>>81308737
>BvS is "entertaining"
>deadpool is entertaining
>GotG is entertaining
whedon pls
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>>81309167
>Give /co/ some credit.
Why?
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>>81309216

Snyder went apeshit on imagery with BvS. I think that he found Goyer's religious ideas in MoS and decided to go overboard with BvS. There's Moby Dick, King Arthut, Greek Myth, Christian and whatever the else imagery in it.
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>>81298702
So this is good or bad?
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>>81308737
See>>81307486
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>>81308798
>Dark Knight Rises rated that highly

Alright, forget BvS for a while. clearly we need more meme magic focused on TDKR
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>>81309420
Entertaining != "fun".
The darkness and lack of quips was never BvS's problem. It's problem was 2 hours of poorly written speeches and only like 15 minutes of action to counterbalance it. People weren't turned off because of tone, or at least not solely because of it. People weren't bored because it was "serious" but because 2 hours of poorly written speeches is DULL.
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>>81309443
please no

let it end
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>>81308543
>Maybe even Aunt May gets a solo movie! Anything's possible!
Don't forget, they were going to bring back Gwen's Dad using Peter's magic blood....
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>>81308082
the fuck? how would it have any connetions other then the photo anyway, its set near 100 years in the past.
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>>81298702
Making stupid shit. Sad to see that american general population is becoming more and more childlike, but thats how the world is now, huh.
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>>81309519
Many critics seriously complaint about the lack of quip and it's one of their main problem with BvS, I'm not joking nor bullshiting.

This is why I said it's fucking sad.
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>>81302251
What the fuck man, we need more shit like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ohTJp3PAA

Wipppieeeeeeeeee i feel like when i was a kid now, i hope that the next marvel movie is "fun" enought to start using diapers.
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>>81309519
And adding unfunny jokes and humor to serious scenes in Suicide Squad to ape GotG wouldn't be entertaining to the audience.
Green Lantern had jokes and visuals but everyone hated it. People don't find bad humor entertaining.

If the added jokes/humor in the reshoots are funny and written well, then there no loss.

If they aren't, then they just edited a man's vision in an attempt to copy Marvel.

And since WB has no clue what constitutes as "FUN" well all signs point to abandon ship.
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>>81309679
>Many critics seriously complaint about the lack of quip and it's one of their main problem with BvS, I'm not joking nor bullshiting.
You aren't joking or bullshiting, but I think you're likely misinterpreting.That unless they LITERALLY use the word "quip", you're projecting what you think they mean.

Listen if you loved it more power to you. All I know is that I've never seen more phones out in a movie theater before. It was like someone had just deactivated the "no texting" rule. BvS wasn't holding people's interest.
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>>81309670
there is a movie from 1964 entitled "Taylor Mead's Ass" and is 76 minutes of Taylor Mead's ass
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>>81309755
>And since WB has no clue what constitutes as "FUN" well all signs point to abandon ship.
You could've just left it at that.
The problem isn't the content or even the intent. The problem is that WB consists of a whole lot of chucklefucks that can't execute.
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>>81309755
we literally only have one source saying the reshoots are for added levity, and even that there are reshoots at all, and it's from someone who is myopically nostalgic for the Donner films
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>>81298702
By watching the Lego batman movie.

serious answer is: get actual comic book writers to write the script it, and stop the big corporate conglomerate from interfering with it.
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>>81309780
Holy shit that kind of movies where like the equivalent of high grossing films in the box office from today?

Probably got more viewers that psycho, right?
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>>81309679
>Many critics seriously complaint about the lack of quip
I highly doubt critics actually said "there isn't enough quips" verbatim
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>>81309954
It was an Andy Warhol film. Made as a joke, basically.
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>>81309954
well considering one of the highest grossing films of 1964 was fucking My Fair Lady, yes
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>>81309774
Dude, I never said BvS is entertaining. I actually said it was extremely boring but that has nothing to do with quib, funny, humor, or joke and yes those critics seriously complaint about this.

Yes, they literally use the word...it's fucking sad, you see.
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>>81309877
>spoiler
Dubs of truth
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