I was pondering this after seeing the movie a couple nights ago.

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>>81195371
I'm more focused on hoping those little jerks' scout group was dismantled by the headquarter right after coming to know what they did to a newcomer.

>>81195371
Well, maybe.

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Holy fuck

This film is good. And the first draft was ALSO good. And we're never gonna see it.

But I can't get over it. I can't stop thinking about it- They've created a world with such incredible story telling opportunities.

>>81198867
Is calling a movie like this out on using coincidence to build suspense a fair criticism? Because there are three separate parts of the movie that rely on coincidence to make sense, and Idk if that's supposed to be "the joke" or not.

1. Hopps getting iced by the Godfather if not for her daughter walking in just in time to save her. This one seems funny until it becomes a plot point later on for solving the case.

2. The driver turning right before Hopps get the vital info. That timing is just incredibly convenient, and I doubt intentionally so due to the fact that Hopps showing up at the train station later was a surprise to them.

3. The phone call after Hopps finds out there's a giant coverup. They could have just slipped out, but her phone conveniently goes off just at the wrong time to create suspense.

>>81195371
It's not that they become more or less "valid" or "well thought out", they want the character to be relatable and understandable, while giving a reason why he acts the way he does.

>>81195371
Looking this deep into yet another talking animal children's cartoon. OP why are you so fucking autistic?

>>81199094
What you're attempting to describe is plot contrivance.

And only your first point really holds up as an example of it. When Manaches turns, we don't know why at first, so that's just another layer of the mystery narrative. Later we find out why he was turned, and how, in a way that actually explains the timing of it rather well.

Your third point is just petty and pedantic. Everyone has their parents call them at inconvenient times, or forgets to silence their phones some time they should have.

>>81199094
While I think every single one of those ultimate just ends up being for a joke and to push the plot along, they would likely have done things a little different if not for some coincidences. Like while he is a mob boss, Mr. Big seems mostly reasonable. He knew Nick well enough that they buried his grandmother in a rug they had him make. He also went out of his way to try and help his florist of all people. I figure if the godmother thing hadn't come up Judy would have just talked to Mr. Big explaining how she was just trying to find all these missing predators and keep the town peaceful. He could have respected that and helped her.

Manches turning wasn't a coincidence. Doug shot him right after they were done talking to him. I guess it could take varying times for different animals, but it doesn't seem that odd.

Phone call yeah, that was convenient and likely just for the "you got a call at a really bad time" gag.

I think a more convenient thing is the night howlers being blue, them using little blue pellets, and Nick getting a love for blueberries all in the last 20 mins or so. Bellwether even mentions she'll dart every predator in town, but they're paintball pellets, not darts. That bugged me. It was all to set the ending and fake out up but I think it could have been done better.

>>81199307
I know there are people out there who will laugh or say I'm full of shit, but Zootopia for all its cuteness and the lively colorful world, is a rather mature story. It feels like it's a story more people from kids to adults should be discussing.

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If there's a sequel I'd be happy with the ending just being Judy and Nick having a nice candlelight dinner together where the movie fades as they're about to kiss. Just something that's official.

This really shouldn't matter to me as much as it does that these two get together. I think I'm broken.

His smugness is so relatable because we're all beta males who wish we could be as smooth as Nick.

>>81199735
I think it's relatable because it's all a mask. Sure he's really good at it, and it's likely just a habit and a part of him now, but deep down it's not what he had wanted. He built it up over what he'd lost.

It's another reason I want Nick and Judy together. Judy kind of saved Nicks soul, in a sense. Gave him back what he wanted years ago, just in a different form.

>>81195371
That's, like, plot, dude.
That's just plot in general.
Basic storytelling.
Nothing fancy there.

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I'm trying to find Nick's tie, but I can't really find anything that has the exact color scheme of it.

I can find a million navy-blue ties with red stripes, but Nick's tie also has blue stripes along the sides of the red stripes, and I'm having trouble finding a tie with that kind of pattern, in the right colors.

The closest one I found did have blue stripes around the sides of the red stripes...but it's two different shades of blue stripes, and one of them is too bright, making it look like a white stripe.

http://i.imgur.com/oe4ySVP.jpg

Should I just get navy with red stripes, and skip the extra blue stripes? You can't really see the blue stripes in the animation unless you look closely, so I figure most people won't care.

>>81199530
It also happens twice doesn't it? one in the predator cells and another in the museum

>>81195371
This isn't common knowledge on how character development works?
Like, this isn't anything new.

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>>81199699
nigga that's kawaii

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>>81200488
>get pic related
>permanent marker on white stripes
>?????
Profit!

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>>81195371
Nothing wrong with the smugness of a character OP.
Ladies love smug.

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>>81195371
If by smug you mean sex appeal

>>81201037
See you in three days, anon.

Why did Nick become a cop? Did he do it just to show he wasn't a stereotypical fox, or did he still want to help people like when he tried to join the Rangers?

>>81200881
That might work, yeah. But wouldn't coloring in the white stripes with a sharpie seem...kinda obvious? I don't feel like it'd work very well.

>>81201187
the second one

>>81201187
He did it because he wanted to make Judy happy.

>>81201146
Ayy.

What are the best comics/fanfics you guys have read? I need to scratch my zootopia itch.

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>>81201283
YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE
EVERYTHING I DO
I DO IT FOR YOU

>>81201283
Anon pls they're just very good friends who sometimes let one another crash after they're been out on non-work nights

>>81201400
But Judy's room is tiny and she only has one bed. And it's small.

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>>81201338
The only comics I read are the Asian ones that (sometimes) get translated. Haven't touched text-only fics at all.

>>81201460
That just means they'll have to snuggle in reaaal close.

>>81201338
>Crossing fingers in hopes that someone mentions your fanfic

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>>81201400
>they're just very good friends

>>81201497
It's just a bit of spooning between bros, right?

>>81201460
Nick's a big guy but Judy's bed is pretty huge for her

>>81201523
I really enjoy the one you wrote.

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>>81201578

>>81201523
I know that feeling

>>81201523
What fic did you write? The only one's I've read are sadjudy, which was awesome, and the first chapter of The Fox and The Rabbit, which was alright.

>>81201338
Lesse
Theres
Oddest Two (though it hasn't updated in ages, might be dead)
Sunlight City
Prejudice Dies Hard
The Fox and the Rabbit (though its more romance than anything)
Hood
Sadjudy/sadnick
Hunted

I'm sure theres more

>>81201714
Wow, that's a lot of fics. Any of those stand out as your favorite?

>>81199094
>>81199595
It bothered me too. While I thought the story was pretty good for a Disney children's movie, it had way too many coincidences and contrivances in it.
Using a few coincidences here and there in a story is okay, but it's best to avoid them as much as possible. If there's some kind of big mystery, the heroes should be able to solve it without the help of perfectly timed coincidences.
I had a similar problem with Jessica Jones, only there the coincidences generally screwed things up for the heroes, and it got to a point where the heroes were so unlucky it was rididulous

>>81201792
I suppose I like Sunlight City and Prejudice Dies Hard most personally, though neither are very light.

A lot of people like Sadjudy, and I'm liking the sequel so far.

Hood and Hunted are generally lighter fair if you want that.

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Judy is too cute She's my waifu, sorry Nick

>>81201484
>>81201714
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll read them!

>>81201916
Don't apologize.

You don't have a chance with her to begin with.

>>81202130
But is that because she's fictional or because she wants to be all up in that fox's business?

>>81201578
U
U
U
U

>>81202223
A little of column A, a little of column B.

>>81201891
Alright thanks for the in-depth, I really appreciate it

>>81202223
It;s because she's a serious, career oriented young woman who has no time for romance.

>>81199699
RABBIT BOOBS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY

d-do they?

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bunny bump

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>>81202324
We may never know.

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>>81202324
They evolved, anon.

>>81202270
Clearly not, considering how she quit after fucking everything up.

>>81199994
>>81198249
>tfw no alternate universe where little Judy steps in and saves Nick from the bullies.
>tfw no adventures of li'l Judy and Nick being best friends and encouraging each other's impossible dreams.

How is life outside Zootopia?
Does every species keep to their own?

>>81202414
Well that was more out of guilt than anything else

>>81202428
It seems like there's smaller communities scattered around. We know that there are bird and reptile megalopolises out there.

>>81202336
>Bunny bump
>15 seconds after a post
Stop wasting images

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>>81202597
Didn't have auto update one.
Still, any excuse to post Judy I guess.

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>>81199094
>>81199530
The plot in Zootopia hinges on a lot of apparent coincidences that really aren't coincidences when you think about it. And most of them point right back to Dawn Bellwether:
>Judy becomes the first rabbit cop in Zootopia, and immediately gets assigned to the high-profile "downtown" unit. She probably owes both of these to Bellwether pushing Mayor Lionheart's "inclusion" policies to the limit.
>Judy nearly gets fired for volunteering to take on the Otterton disappearance case, but Bellwether intervenes and puts Chief Bogo in a position where he has to permit it.
>Judy gets attacked by the savage Manches, which if not for Lionheart's wolves kidnapping him would've exposed the supposed "predators turning savage" epidemic. Clearly Bellwether had her followed by her henchsheep just to set the encounter up.

The whole first 3/4 of the movie is Bellwether using Judy as a pawn to advance her "race war" scheme. From the moment she passed police academy she was being groomed to play the part she ended up playing in her disastrous news conference.

>>81201708
The Case of the Salisbury Peddler. My attempt at a noir thriller. It's still in progress, but a writing exercise to keep me busy.

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>>81201523
soon

>>81195371
OP, if you properly watched that scene, you would know he was pretty smug then as well.

He does use it as a defense mechanism, but it's closer to something he's honed rather than something created purely for it.

I wonder how often Nick has done a hustle just to get some girl's number.

>>81203021
I wonder how many girls hes been with

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>>81203058
Too many to count, but he's never had a meaningful relationship, since he's afraid of letting someone in too close.

until now that he's met Judy

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>>81203058
>I wonder how many girls hes been with
1

>>81201484
What the fuck, Anon, I didn't need these feels today.

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Gideon best fox.

But do Nick and Judy have enough in common to have a relationship?

>>81203552
Yes, it would be magical and beautiful and I want it an autistic amount.

>>81203516
Agreed
>That watermark tho

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>>81203552
They need to get married for happiness reasons

>>81203661
What if they are not happy after being married?
What if they just want to have a platonic friendship?

>>81203743
>What if they are not happy after being married?
That's not how "Happily ever after" works.

>>81203743
Well then they won't get married.

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>>81203743
shhh. It's not about what they want. It's what WE NEED

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>>81203832
>shhh. It's not about what they want. It's what WE WANT
FTFY

>>81201792
Walk on the Wilde Side is good

>>81203875
You're one cheeky cunt m8, I like that.

>>81199530
Were the sheep aware that Judy Hopps was visiting the Panther? If so then I understand why it was timed hat way. If not, then I still think it was convenient.

>>81201484
All of that great build up and then
And then
>"Thank you in my life"
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>81203058
I'd say surprisingly little. With all the hate foxes get and all that. I wouldn't say he's a virgin, just my personal feelings are that he's not as learned in that area as he'd let on.

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There seems to be some actual fic discussion in this thread, so, before we get hotpocketed, can anyone recommend me a good, lighthearted, comedy or romance fic? I just watched the movie a second time, and I need something to tie me over until a third viewing. Feels fics are the last thing I need, not being able to live in Zootopia Is sad enough.

>>81204129
Also, he probably had difficulty letting others get close to him prior to meeting Judy.

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>>81203516

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>>81204190
>posts little foxlet pretending to be a husbando

Disappointed, Anon.

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>>81204350
sure thing bud

>>81204167
I suppose the Fox and the Rabbit might be what you want. Its gotten a bit feelsy with the most recent update, but otherwise its just been a romance story.

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>>81204350
>Gideon
>husbando
I don't think so bubby

>>81195371
>Never let them see that they get to you
Yeah, pretty much.

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>>81204350

>>81204415
Thanks anon.

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>>81204406
>>81204485
>>81204632
It is outrageous what passes for a husbando these days. Someday I hope you see the error in your ways.

>>81204632
Real talk, I can't place that gif. What is it from?

>>81204544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILc0cYkKqFs

>>81204544
>>81204757
This will never not make me laugh for wahtever reason

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Baby Finnick is still the best.

>>81204818
>Yellow shirt
this still bugs me. And I don't know why

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>>81204757

>>81204863
>What is lighting

>>81204921
No, its definitely yellow. Theres plenty of other shots where its yellow.

Not that I have any of them saved but yeah its actually a different shirt.

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How does she get ready in the mornings /co/

>>81204921
I payed attention to this last time, and he definitely has two different shirts, a yellow one and a green one.

>>81204002
Yeah, most the comic was Chinese, then the artist decided to Engrish up the last panel, which was left untranslated.

>>81204167
Try The Visit

It's more like a gag fic but it's pretty funny

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>>81204921
>>81204954

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>>81205072
Alright. I was wrong.

>>81204985

>eat breakfast
>brush her teeth
>shower
>make up and hair
>twenty minutes stabbing the baby fox she kidnapped the day before
>coffee

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>>81204921

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>>81204985
>>81205136
How could anybody love this witch?

How many kids would Nick and Judy have?

>>81205228
with a paper bag over her head

>>81205228
People like Dr. Oz despite selling snake oil to ignorant americans.

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>>81205136
>hating literal perfection

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>>81205247
Just one. After the first they realize the hubris in deciding to create their demon-children.

>>81205325
>weird ass human eyes
>on a sheep
found a flaw

>>81205325
>Being Welsh

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>>81202224
What is this, some new meme or...

>U U U U
>there are four U's
>four U
>"for you"

>mfw

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>>81205247
The question is how many does she want?

>>81205072
It's clearly white and gold.

>>81205414
>Not calling the image "Thor levitating a giant hoola-hoop"

>>81205352
>And that's why Hansel and Gretel can neber be married.
>Because the doctor said their children would be monsters.

>Comic on sadpanda with Gideon shipping
>He just gets cucked because he didn't bother to check if Judy was single
>Judy's fur isn't even the right colour
Literally only the worst people enjoy this ship

>>81205522
Only the worst people enjoy cucking

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>>81205414

>>81205522
Is that this one?
www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56058152

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How did Disney fit so much smug into one fox

what sorcery is this

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>>81205522
Your problem is that you sought out straight Gideon shipping. Straight Gideon shipping is nasty. Gideon was made for homosex only.

>>81205522
Eh, I don't think they go well together anyway, regardless of whether Gideon is gay or not.

>>81205665
Yup, that's it.

I enjoy how it reflects modern society, like how the predators (white people) are trying to be phased out of society by the pray (any other race) through means of aggressively labeling the ones in charge

>>81205665
>Trying to propose after a single date

It was doomed to failure anyway.

>>81205679
you don't know how good foxes are at fitting things?

there's so much to show you

>>81205721
FANON
A
N
O
N

Gaydeon is still hot tho

>>81205763
Spelling mistakes aside, you are trying to fit a square block in a round hole.

Its a general aesop against bigotry in all forms.

>>81205747
His bigger problem there wasn't checking first, but buying a ring after having lunch once. The comic's pacing is too fast.

>>81195371
It could very well be a defense mechanism. Nick is a wounded soul with a thick skin protecting it. He drops his defenses with Judy and exposes himself. Judy inadvertantly pokes at the old wound and Nick overreacts as a result. It's very human.

In the very anti-human art world we live in today, I'm amazed a movie like this made it to theaters and am very pleased at how well it has been doing. People crave human stories even if told by funny animals and human stories involve tragedy, humor, and don't always work out perfectly.

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>too embarrassed to go see in theatres (need a friend for a ride)
>only one who wanted to do a movie had us go see BvS
>too afraid to search any "movie" sites

Fuck man, this movie looks 2cute.

>>81205931
I don't understand why people are afraid to go see it alone. For one, nobody cares what movies you go see by yourself. Nobody pays attention to you in the theater. Second, it's a Disney movie. Most adults like Disney movies. Just go see it, dude, you'll be much happier.

>>81205931
>too embarrassed to go see in theatres
same here,

do you guys have little siblings/cousins? Or you do not give a fuck.

>>81205931
I mean theres Kisscartoon that has a camrip if you are really that out of luck.

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>>81205931

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>>81205931
http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Zootropolis/Movie?id=68762

It's a camrip, but it's of relatively high quality. [for a camrip.]

So... enjoy? I guess?

>>81205931
GO WATCH IT ANYWAY ANON.

IN Theaters!

Get your bitch friend who saw BvS to watch this, and cry at how much better Zootopia is.

>>81206017
>zootropolis
Is this a european version?

>>81206001
I don't give a fuck what random strangers think of me. Not only that, but it's a movie theater; other people are going to be paying attention to the movie, they're not going to be looking around the movie and judging everyone they don't like.

>>81206001
I didn't give a fuck. People will judge you everywhere you go no matter what you are doing.

Go see a good movie. I did seven times and you can too.

>>81206044
NA is Zootopia.
Everywhere else is Zootropolis.

>>81206065
It's Zootopia in South Korea and Japan as well.

>>81206001
I went to see it with my sister (She's 18 I'm 20). I even suggested we see it.

>>81205931
Saw it by myself last Thursday. You just need to not give a damn anon.

>>81206065
Its only zootropolis in certain parts of europe, since theres a copyright issue there.

Oh, who is excited for the Japanese release of Zootopia? Especially with the performance of BvS?

More money aside, did anyone ever see how accurate the hair counts of the animals were? The number for the average mouse was 400k or so, is that on par with real life?

>>81206106
and Australia

>>81206065
Also Zwierzogród in some places, Zoomania in other places, and China gets the title reworked into 疯狂动物城, which doesn't sound anything like "Zootopia" and literally translates as "Crazy Animal City".

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Who else is thinking about 2ootopia? This movie is on track to outdo Frozen, we're guaranteed a sequel. I just went to watch the movie again, at my local theater. I live In bumfuck nowhere, PA, and yet the theatre was packed, at noon, on a fucking Monday, 3 Weeks after release. If that's not confirmation, I don't know what is.

>>81206176
>Oh, who is excited for the Japanese release of Zootopia?
I can't wait for the Jap cartoonists to get to work

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Should they have left this part in the movie?

>>81205931
I seriously thought being afraid to go to the movies yourself was a meme. Please tell me you're not serious?

Ever since I've lived by myself I've absolutely loved going to movies alone. It's my favorite way to see them. Not that I hate going with people, or can't understand why people would prefer going with friends or family, but to actually be afraid of going alone... it seems very strange to me.

>>81206234
It will be glorious. Think of all the content they will churn out like some kind of assembly line.

I am not excited for the porn but everything else is gonna be sweet.

>>81206176
I actually booked travel plans to be in Tokyo for that weekend. Not solely to go watch a cartoon, to be sure. I'll be there enough days to make a proper tourist vacation out of it, but I do plan to check out the Japanese dub at least once.

>>81206275
>Not being jazzed for the doujins those japs will crank out

>>81206297
Visit one of those fox sanctuaries!

>>81206241
I'm surprised there's not more art of this scene

>>81206176
Well, the average human has 5million hair follicles on their body overall. Humans overall are pretty hairless. I imagine there's more than 400k on a mouse.

I'm not sure if there's real data on it though.

>>81206233
>bumfuck nowhere, PA
Same. Fucking Indiana, just barely caught the showing of the film a few days ago because of that place's retard scheduling.

>>81206241
Hopefully it'll be a deleted scene

>>81206241
maybe

>>81206307
I just really don't care for any lewd and am excited for the Japanese to start their work.

>>81206307
Disney movies don't really get many doujins.

>>81206241
I feel like if it was it could make the film pg-13.
I have not context for this but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some guideline that says it's okay to show animals naked, but not okay to show clothed animals getting undressed.

>>81206406
That sounds dumb and unreasonable. I completely believe thats the rule.

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>>81206435

>>81199094
Only the first one counts. Coincidences that create conflict are fine. Only ones that resolve conflicts are a problem.

And the first one only half-counts, since it's Judy being rewarded for saving Snooki.

>>81206349
Unfortunately, that's not Tokyo, that's all the way up by Sendai.

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>>81206435
>>81206456
Fucking brutal. I'm glad we finally got a full translation

>>81206456
oh shit Nick's goin super saiyin.

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>>81206350
We can only be so lucky there's more in the near future.

>>81206456
Will he be cured in the end though? I wanna know

>>81206456
>>81206442
I waited so long for this Anon, thanks

>>81206596
No idea, I only have two parts, they were post here yesterday, I only share what I have

>>81206659
I mean that is definitely all of the comic that was made. Im just saying I want more anyway

>>81206456
Shonen as fuuuuuck

Man that feels good

>>81206241

It's probably better that they took this scene out. Stripping just to piss off Judy seems like it'd be going a bit too far for Nick.

>>81205997
>>81206246
Seeing it by myself isn't a problem, it's that I'm still need of my own car and must get rides with friends or family until then.

The former whom I'm not sure about and the latter who would disown me for not being "adult" enough.

>>81199094
That last one didn't "just go off" Her parents called her at the same time during her first night in the city. They set up that part.

>>81205931
Order ticket online

Make sure ticket is for last showing of the night

Enjoy theater to yourself, maybe a few other people in your same boat

>>81206780
Well it was a pretty subtle set up if so, I completely missed that.

>>81206762
>Just to piss off Judy

Anon, please. I'm going to ask you not slander a Platinum Prime Member of Mystic Springs Oasis.

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Nick was traumatized by a thug in high school

>>81206729
There's a new comic on the artist's site but it's not a continuation. It looks like a different story entirely.
http://nickjudy.postype.com/post/124147/

>>81206764
What kind of "friends" do you have ?

>>81206825
I didn't think it was subtle. They said they'd call her, they called her, the conversation was a major point with enough gags in it to make it memorable, they mention that they'll talk later, and given her work hours they're likely to call back at the same time because they know she'll be available.

I got it right away. It's why they show it's her parents calling.

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>>81206435
>>81206456
beautiful

>>81206241
I think maybe they removed that because they knew furries would get off to it.

>>81206887
Sadness

Though I gues they got out okay.

And hey, maybe the dialogue references it. Guess we need a translation to find out

>>81206885
But it was the freaking boys scouts

>>81206938
Implying we're all not closet furries

>>81207044
I'm not a closet furry. Emphasis on closet.

In your opinion, is Zootopia better than Inside Out?

Piano medley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8AJ-nPdwcs

>>81206938
Implying furries weren't gonna get off to it anyway.

>>81207210
Definitely, though both had their own style, Zootopia was better

>>81207214
What song is this?

>>81207210
Yes, totally, I didn't like Inside Out at all

>>81207210
Yes, because the conflict isn't nearly as forced

>>81207044
>closet furries
I think there's a line here with this movie.

I think the characters and story are cute as hell, but I don't get off sexually from this shit or any other furry content, it's not my thing.

Just get warm and fuzzy inside.

>>81207306
Varied bits from the instrumental background music, apparently.

>>81206297
I actually think of it myself. Make a second trip to Japan, but also watch the movie there (for the nth time).

>>81207214
Looks hard to play. Though I know very little about piano

>>81207420
Need four hands to play it, not recommanded for humans

>>81207289
>>81207308
>>81207316
What did people like about that movie again? It was alright, but I can't remember what it was praised on.

>>81207492
So it would actually be impossible to play?

Shame, sounds nice

>>81207492
So find a friend and play the song together.

>>81207210
Yes, Inside Out had one or two good feelsy moments, which make you forget that the rest of the film is rather bland.

>>81206001

Went as a group of three ugly dudes ranging from 32 to mid 40s. Nobody cares you paranoid idiots.

>>81207573
It actually doesn't look quite as impossible as some of these other videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AFCu02xbNc

Which are then practiced until mastered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyUJnV2R-5g

>>81207692
I think the problem is the chords might be too far apart to actually play with just two hands

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How could they make an animated fox so objectively attractive?

>>81207511
Newer Pixar films have one or two good scenes that tug at your heartstrings, which make people forget about the rest of the film being dull and bland.

See: Up, Inside Out, Toy Story 3, The Good Dinosaur.

>>81207511
It handled the concept of depression accurately, where it's not just about being sad all the time but rather, feeling nothing. I also liked the message that being sad was healthy and that it's impossible to be happy all the time.

The execution was alright, and it was certainly better than the last few Pixar movies. Zootopia is a much better film in my opinion though.

>>81207839
I agree for the list, except Inside Out, really I watch this movie twice, and except boredom and complete hate for the characters, I haven't feel anything from this movie

>>81207839
I saw Up and Toy Story 3, and was disappointed enough with the heartstring-tug scenes in those that I haven't watched a Pixar film since.

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Do you think, Zootopia will reach at least Inside Out?

>>81207974
I fucking hate Up because of this. It's clearly trying to be upsetting and the rest of the movie feels cheap and generic in comparison. It's a god damn shame it got the Oscar over the likes of Coraline, Fantastic Mr. Fox, The Secret of Kells, and The Princess and the Frog.

>>81208069
Worldwide? Yes.
Domestic? No.

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>>81208069
What are the chances that it beats Minions worldwide? That would make me so happy.

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>>81207839
I do think up is slightly better than the others in that regard.

You have some callbacks later on, the ellie badge scene, looking at the house and it ended out resting in the exact spot it was supposed to from the painting, you've got some character development from carl through the whole thing, it's nice (even if the the middle of the movie is just kind of dumb)

Toy story 3 I felt like I was watching a dreamworks movies at certain points, all the ken doll stuff for example, like where he's doing a fashion show and the funky music is playing.

It was like what, I wasn't expecting this.

Then you have the trash compactor scene that everyone says made them cry and I was just like ok.

I suppose I shouldn't use dreamworks as an insult, HTTYD1/2 are way better than the average pixar movie now.

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>>81208241
Every time I see one of those yellow pills I die a little inside

>>81208069
Also why don't we know what the production budget was for Zootopia yet?

>>81204190
From what book is that picture from?

>>81207947
Being sad is awesome. There are fewer things in life better than a good cry.

>>81208354
I haven't had a good cry in a long time. Feels bad.

>>81208322
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/07/arts/zootopia-tops-the-box-office.html?_r=0

roughly $150m

>>81208254
The compactor scene was supposed to make people cry? I thought it was just there to be a memorable visual, and that Andy giving toys to the little girl was supposed to be the melancholy part.

Offhand, these are the pretty much the only parts of the movie I remember, that plus something about Buzz getting reset.

>>81208354
Being sad sucks. Being perpetually sad sucks at least. Its just dull and stressful. No catharsis, just constant bleh.

>>81208354
>>81208398
You guys are so emotionnal
How being sad is awesome ? Live a good life and taking the positive things of everythings is the best !

>>81208398
I cried while listening to the united states national anthem once. that was a weird night.

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>>81208532
That doesn't make you weird, Anon. It makes you a patriot.

>>81208532
That's not weird, happened to everyone patriot enough

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>>81208354
>movie makes you feel sad
>not enough to make you cry
>feel cheated

>>81208398
last time I cried was this episode of ds9

ds9 fags will know what I'm on about

>>81208458
So every other movie managed to earn more than at least double their budget (and Minions earned nearly 5x its own). What do you think the odds are that Zootopia can manage that after its opening in Japan and the other markets it hasn't reached yet?

>>81205931
If it's a good movie, who gives a shit? Im 22 and watched ot myself, it was damn good. Go see it.

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>>81208630
zootopia already did, it's at 700 milli worldwide.

>>81208630
I think you're looking at the domestic gross, Anon. Zootopia is almost to 5x its budget and Minions made almost 8x its budget total worldwide.

>>81208532
My eyes get watery every time I listen to God Bless the USA

>>81208532
>I cried while listening to the united states national anthem once
>Once
You fucking un-American pinko commie. You aren't a true American if you don't shed a tear every time you hear it

>>81208754
>>81208772
"This Land Is Your Land" is the one that really gets me.

>>81207839
The good dinosaur was dull and bland throughout, even the heartfelt moment kinda weak because how predictable and formulaic the movie is. Plus, i've had a hard time rooting for the characters

>>81208732
>>81208752
Shit, I didn't scroll down all the way to notice the chart at the bottom of the image. My bad

>>81208123
Pixar are the masters of Oscar-baiting. If they were live action films critics would be ripping them to shreds for emotionally manipulating their audiences, but because they're animated movies - and to critics that means "for kids" (just like to critics it seems like comic book movies = funny and fun) - they aren't just given a pass, they're praised.

Toy Story 3 is the worst example of this, because 3/4 of it is a rehash of Toy Story 2, but the last half-hour or so is filled with so much nostalgic pandering and emotional manipulation it left critics calling it the "greatest animated film of all time", etc.

As a result, 2010 - which featured some great animated films like Tangled and, my personal favorite film of all time, How to Train Your Dragon - were thrown to the side so everyone could kiss Pixar's ass.

Up was the same way. Whenever someone praises it it is for the first nine minutes - but what about the last 90 minutes or so? It's like the entire film is good-not-great, but because of that opening people are quick to throw praise upon it.

Someone had a great way of describing those supposed Pixar "masterpieces" like Wall-E, Up, and Toy Story 3: basically they are fantastic, emotional animated shorts that are stretched to a feature length by padding those one or two great scenes with generic pap that no one remembers.

>>81208812
The way they made the environment look super realistic, then using highly stylized character designs was a massive mistake, it looked so wrong.

And making the human kid acting like a dog was dumb as well, they really need to stop with the "everything acts like a dog" thing, Frozen did it as well.

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>>81208959
>tfw I remember people trying to defend Pixar putting cartoony characters in hyper realistic environment as some kind of 'symbolism' for characters 'not being in their element'

Pixarfags are obnoxious as fuck

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>>81208069
>minions
>that successful
SEEING RED AGAIN!!!

>>81195371
No Bane edits yet?

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I like the direction this thread is heading.

>>81208854
>basically they are fantastic, emotional animated shorts that are stretched to a feature length by padding those one or two great scenes with generic pap that no one remembers
This must explain why the only praise I hear for Up - and I mean that really, I hear not a word for the rest of the movie - is for that tear-jerking introduction sequence. Sure, it was sad, but it just feels so damn cheap when you put the huge remainder of the movie in perspective. I ask for praise about the movie in full and no one can give me any apart from the introduction. The same goes for Toy Story 3 - my mom and sister went out to see it and praised the emotional scenes very highly, but I didn't hear much else about the rest. Was it even worth remembering?

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>>81209189
What, the patriotism or the discussion of films and such?

>>81208354
that's not real sadness, i used to feel like that when i was 16 a lot of times. It's a healthy feeling but actual sadness feels bad man.

>>81209258
I liked it when Tim Allen spoke in Spanish.

>>81209149
>Dat weekend drop though

>>81209373
The patriotism of course. Zootopia is a national treasure and the most American film of the century.

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>>81195709

>>81209258
Exactly. You're saying what I'm saying, and clearly I'm not the only one thinking it.

People praise Up's opening sequence and remember nothing else (except, maybe, "Squirrel!")

People praise Toy Story 3's ending, but remember nothing else about the movie. (and if they did - they'd know Lotso was basically Stinky Pete 2.0)

Meanwhile you have a movie like How to Train Your Dragon where you have, just off the top of my head: Hiccup and Toothless' first encounter, the forbidden friendship scene, the sequence where Hiccup masters the dragon training, Hiccup and Toothless' "test drive", the romantic flight, Stoick disowning Hiccup, Hiccup waking up and realizing he lost his leg -- one of the most ballsy and mature moves in any "family" animated film, etc.

I actually think Zootopia has a screenplay that is far more balanced and just better written than the above movies -- and I say this as someone who thinks modern Disney is generally overrated. It deals with complex themes and issues, and the emotional scenes don't feel forced. It's just a great film overall.

>>81209725
I remember Buzz being an exaggerated Antonio Banderas.

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>>81209056
>Implying Zootopia is not a masterpiece of the Animation in general

>>81209482
>Zootopia is a national treasure and the most American film of the century.
How shallow culture has to be to take that much pride in mere (good, but still) CG animation.

>>81209789
The most obnoxious exaggerated Antonio Banderas, ever.

>>81208812
Good Dinosaur had the same problem as Brave - It was unfocused. You could tell that there were multiple ideas and the writers couldn't decide which story they wanted to do.

Zootopia, in contrast, really blew me away with how tight it was. It's tied with the first HTTYD in that aspect. When I found out the story had been completely re-done a year before release I was blown away.

>>81209373

Claw and Order: Criminal Intent

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>>81207839
>Up
>dull and bland

>>81210012
Listen here, you pinko commie, you think you can just badmouth the greatest country in the world? Zootopia exemplifies the principles so many patriots over the centuries have fought and died for - equality and liberty for men and animals. Of course, I wouldn't expect a pinko commie like yourself to understand anything about wholesome American values.

>>81204754
I remember seeing it a while ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjMGV4S7Hu0

>>81208854
It really sucks when you compare it to Pixar's older films.

I mean, the first two Toy Story films, Monsters, inc., Finding Nemo, and the Incredibles were all great films.

Shit, despite the crap they get, I actually thought the first Cars and A Bug's Life were pretty good films, flawed as they might have been.

It may be the nostalgia talking, but the newer Pixar films just feel...mediocre.

>>81199595
Nick has always liked blueberries though. You see him taking one from a food stand around when Judy starts talking to him for the first time.

>>81209482
>>81210012
>>81210366
I hope somebody gonna screencap this shit.

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>mfw cute sheep bitch wasnt developed properly
I wanted MORE BELLWETHER

Why haven't film critics replaced Citizen Kane with Zootopia at the top of their best films lists yet?

>>81211235
It's fursecution, I tell you. We deserve more representation in the Oscars

>>81211070
Calm down Tighten

>>81211070
There were a few characters that deserved more screentime. At least there's always the sequel.

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>>81211509
>>81211553
MORE SHEEP
MORE SHEEP
MORE SHEEP

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>>81208319
I still haven't forgiven the british population for giving it so much money.

>captcha is bananas

Now I'm sure it's just mocking me.

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>>81211762
>Brits have shit taste

Gosh what a shocker

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>>81211070
You mean Smellwether.

>>81200639
It never happens in the museum.
Source: seen it 4 times.

>>81210593
Because back then they actually made movies with an aim towards just telling good stories.

Now they go out of their way to please critics and Academy voters through emotional pandering -- to the point where one of their latest feelings literally had emotions as characters.

The only solace is that I think they're done quality-wise. Look at their line-up... almost nothing but sequels - most of which aren't even needed. I mean... who the FUCK thought it would be okay to green-light a fourth Toy Story film?

Then again I personally think the existence of TS4 is meant just to act as a middle finger at DreamWorks since Pixar put it only a few weeks outside of the release of How to Train Your Dragon 3... then when HTTYD3 was pushed back to 2018 Pixar pushed TS4 back to 2018 -- seems like their way of trying to assert dominance since the third Toy Story film came out the same year as the first HTTYD.

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>>81212296

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Hey guys, wanna hear a joke?

>>81213000
No.

>>81213000
ok

>>81213000
Don't fuck this up

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>>81213024
What do you call a camel with 3 humps?

>>81213082
Terminally ill

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Pregnant!!!

>>81213082
I said no.

>>81213082
i want to hug judy

>>81213082
A slut.

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>>81213145
Ya blew it.

>>81213145
GET SOME NEW MATERIAL YOU HACK

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>>81213145

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>>81213145

>>81213192
Okay, okay.
Why did the Frenchman have a protein deficiency?

>>81213764
I don't know mysterious person without a face. Why?

>>81213857
To him, an egg was un œuf

>>81213877
...

>>81210234
Zootopia True Detective intro sequence when

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how many of you didn't see her coming that she was the mastermind? or was it obvious, like Adachi from Persona 4 obvious?

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>>81214005
Alright I got one.
What's the difference between a refrigerator and a gay picnic?

>>81214095
The fruits aren't hot in the refrigerator?

>>81214095
Last chance

>>81214095
go on

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>>81214126
No.
The refrigerator doesn't fart when you pull your meat out of it.

>>81214171
Thats strike 3 motherfucker

Get outta here

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>>81214171
MOTHERFUCKER

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>>81214171
You'd know, wouldn't you, Nick?

>>81214206
My egg joke was good though

>>81214075
It was one of the two things I had spoiled for me before going in. Can only blame myself though, since I was just wondering into ZT threads knowing full well that it was already out in America.
The other thing though was fully at the cost of some faggot on /v/, so I can use the blame-game with that one.

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>>81214171
Aw man, I love Gideon's picnics! Good company, more than one kind of pie to eat!

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>>81214259
/v/ is equal with /pol/
Not even sugar coating

>>81207492
>>81207573
It looks okay to me. You don't need four hands, but you do have to move around a lot. The arpeggios are the hardest part but it's nothing unreasonable.

I might type up the sheet music later.

>>81214378
Do it. I'd like that

But I'm pretty sure I remember at least one spot where you'd need a third hand to hit all the notes

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>>81214336
I aint gonna argue with that one. Just given up going completely now. Might even put Zootopia as the reason for it, showing me there's more to life than negativity and shitposting. Feels good.

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>>81214484
It still fucking baffles me how GOOD this movie was.
Seriously, it didnt even feel like a Disney movie.