Star Wars Rebels

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>I enjoy the prequels more than the OT! Fuck Plinkett!

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Post nice scenery with people hanging out.

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>>81120903
Go back to /tv/, faggot.

>>81121037
>Two birds in the sky

We're going to lose two, aren't we?

>>81121067
At the end, there's only one of those two owl things left flying around. We're losing just one.

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>Death of the Waifu Edition

Anon is Dave Filoni and just here to mock us...

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>>81121067
I wanted nice scenery and people relaxing and not think of the death toll ahead.

At least Filoni gave us space owls instead of space ravens, they're nowadays the more obscure deathbringer/bad omen thanks to the "wise owl" propaganda.

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http://www.saberparts.com

Show your lightsabers.

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>>81121037

>>81121365
I enjoy the fact that Luke got as far away from sand as possible, on a water world with cliff coasts.

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>>81123441
Kylo a cute

>>81123742
Thats not Kylo thats Matt.

>>81123742
kylo is a robot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zu4lA7nz5Y

>>81121365

Why was he randomly standing there though in the middle of nowhere?

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So anons...who do you think will die in the finale?

My money is on SS and Maul biting the dust.

>>81124180
3rd inquisitor that ends up being a literally who and never takes off their mask

>>81124180
all inquisitors

>>81124180
>helicopter lightsabers
>people STILL pretending this show isn't kiddie shit

>>81124180
Lol. What the fuck is she doing? This has to be an edit. Besides Maul has to become part of the ghost crew as a foil to Kanan.

Definitely buttcheeks

>>81124121
He was waiting. He could have felt someone strong in the Force was coming, and/or see the Falcon/hheard the Falcon's engine.

He could have tried the Yoda approach, but instead he choose to make an epic reveal and picked this location just for that.

>>81123742
That fucking hair, man

>post yfw the Inquisitors face Maul, only to have Maul ridicule the implied practicality of their lightsabers

>>81124548
Nope, she's (hopefully) jumped and used the anti-grav in the saber ring to carry her; another anon speculated that if the spin is fast enough, the heat of the saber could generate sufficient current.

Also, Filoni sees Maul more as foil to Ahsoka: Someone who once believed in the teaching of their order, but went renegade and doesn't associate with it anymore.

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Ha! Jokes on you, Filoni. My waifu is a main character and she will survive order 67.

>>81125399
> Kanan dies and she goes back to Ryloth to help the rebel cell there and her dad

g-good end?

>>81125814
Kinda.

>>81125399

I want her to show up in the ST. Am I alone in this? A grizzled old Hera fighting on the good fight still in the Ghost with a new crew?

Bonus points for if it was Hera who taught Poe how to fly.

Wait, the orange Mary Sue is finally dead? Really?

So was it explained why C3P0 has a red arm?

>>81126697
Probably. That or she becomes the new Marrek of the DC

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Who will play George in the inevitable biopic?

>pic related

>>81126747
You can go by the Lego game canon or wait till they put out the comic

>>81126697
Everyone's betting on next episode when she's up against Vader, but I think she'll stick beyond that.

>>81126871

He's still got a jawline though.

>>81120903
why does this gif make me feel funny?

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>>81125360

>the Inquisitors face Maul, only to have Maul ridicule the implied practicality of their lightsabers

>MFW

>>81119135
Star Wars Aftermath. It's not worth reading it just for that tidbit, which is just a throwaway reference more than anything else.

And for what it is worth it said he was recruited by Fulcrum, not Ahsoka. As it is a codename anyone could have been Fulcrum at that point. Yes, even Snoke.

Why not, Snoke has been everyone else by this point.

>>81124446

I lost all hope when in one of the early episodes the alien dude jumped on a Tie Fighter and ripped the pilot out of the cockpit.

This is a show for 10y old kids.

I can't believe some idiots still think any of this shit will have any relevance in the movies.

>>81124180
kek. What episode is this?

>>81124180
>Seventh Sister
>SS
Do they know...?

>>81124180
Kanan and Seventh Sister take each other out. As it should be.

>>81126697
>ahsoka
>mary sue
Pick one.

So I've been reading knights of the old republic and I'm about halfway through the whole thing. It's a fantastic read and all but Jesus fucking Christ the art changes so fucking often. Does it ever return to the quality that was found in its opening chapters?

>>81124180
SS can't die anon, she's gotta confess her love to Ezra first.

When are we all going to acknowledge the fact hera is the worst character on the show?

>rude
>stupid
>bad at her job

>>81127333
Delicious pasta.

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>>81121365
I HATE THIS SPIN

>>81127333
Bad b8

>>81127302
She was though, until Barriss framed her

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>>81125360

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>>81127327
>SS can't die anon, she's gotta confess her love to Ezra first

Yes. Just...yes.

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It's misdirection, there's only one active apprentice, Ezra.
This will be about him falling to the darkside. Ahsoka's fight with Vader will turn out to be incidental as she isn't even a Jedi now.

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>>81127448
>pasta or bait

Hera is a shitty character. Look at the things she says, how she treats people and her actions. She should be demoted

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>>81127675

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUl-r6qjZIQ

>>81127590
>"ah Ezra, you are defeated, drop your lightsaber or Kanan dies"
Ezra drops his saber
>"Good, good, now drop your pants"
her face when

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>>81125360
> back in my time, we did our spinning by hand
> limp-wristed children

more of this: http://lousysharkbutt.tumblr.com/post/133469840632

>>81127840
Anon pls, you post this in every thread.

>>81127889
>2:12 even Inky thinky Kylo is lame :^)

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>>81121282
>not conjuring a blade of pure energy out of thin air

>>81120753

> Death of the waifu edition

Is that spoilers? Does the precious orange angel get killed?

So I heard /co/ has a decent argument or evidence that Erza is headed for the Dark Side?

>>81128083
Well, there was this guy who posted a pic of Ezra with yellow eyes, but it's probably fake. It's just speculation and foreshadowing mostly

>>81127979
I've seen people make use of two scenes to "prove" Hera is horrible. The first is in the B-Wing episode because she refused to let them abort the run even when Phoenix Leader suggested so. The problem is that it turns out even after that failed attempt Phoenix Squad was trying again when it wasn't her call. They were throwing everything they had into helping those miners, even if it meant they had nothing left.

Whether it was actually bad writing in how the episode was framed or whether those miners were somehow crucial to the Rebellion, well, who knows. But within the episode it was never presented as her fault, and in fact the only thing that would have been her fault was not getting them their secret weapon in time. A secret weapon they've failed to use ever again. Apparently Fishy Joe needed the prototype back before they could attempt mass production. He'll probably be done around the time ROTJ occurs.

The second is a more recent episode when they lost a Phoenix pilot whose A-Wing suffered hyperdrive damage. They wanted Hera to specifically shield the pilot with the Ghost. Nevermind that the episode called for another pilot to be lost, with everything else going on they demanded that Hera either was already shielding the A-Wing from behind or suddenly react to it. As it was she needed to be told. As it was a TIE swooped in from behind and took out an A-Wing. People might as well bitch about the run on the Death Star when no one was bothering to help protect their X-Wings from the rear or stop Darth and his goon squad from entering the trench after them in the first place.

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>>81128074

She's up against Vader in the Finale. It's not outright confirmed that she'll die. But it's the majority opinion that she will.

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>>81128138
For what it is worth it was posted by Stephen Stanton, who voices Grand Moff Tarkin in TCWs and Rebels. And AP-5, Meebur Gascon, Mas Amedda, etc.

Now the question is where HE got that image.

>>81124399
More like Inquisitor Kallus

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Came out a bit too edgy, but I like it.

>>81128326
>Now the question is where HE got that image.

From himself? It's shopped to shit. Some folks on /co/ have done more convincing looking variants.

David Bowie died this year and yet Darth Maul is still alive in 2016

Where is the justice

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>>81128532
Good. Gooood. Keep up your denial. The inevitable truth will shatter you all the harder.

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>>81128646
Before anyone falls too far into despair the unedited source is obviously this picture from Gathering Forces before Ezra summons the momma fyrnock.

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>>81128646

Dude, dark side eyes don't even look like that in Rebels.

Pic related.

It's missing the red bloodshot bits around the iris.

>>81128646
It looks pretty bad tbqh.
I so wish yellow eyes don't come back. The whole idea pretty retarded. like we wouldn't know character does something evil unless his eyes are glowing yellow

>>81128844
Calm down, anon, and take a look at >>81128781

Emotion, yet peace.

Do not let your passions consume you.

>>81128844
The red looks more like tentacle fringing in CW and Rebels.

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S-she is gonna survive, right? R-right?

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>>81128904
I'd rather have it if the eyes would look more permanently bloodshot from the strain/stress on the body from excessive Force manipulation. Would have the benefit that non-humanoids would look a bit more alien if it could be seen, or you'd have to think how physical stress could be presented differently in a species... but then you'd need to show a regular specimen to contrast it.

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>>81128914
Not always, and also more black.

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>>81129126
Unless you're Fifth Bro. Could be species trait overriding normal Dark Side corruption in the eyes, could be that he's one of the few who can and does like to hide it.

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>>81128646

>e-everything's about to change! Honest!
>barely anything changes

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>>81128951
She better survive, she is not done with Ezra yet.

Although with Filoni you'll never know. Here is a pic of her crossing blades with Maul (or at least his lightsaber)...that can't end well.

>>81129126
Up to now I thought they just haven't dipped as excessively into the Dark Side, and that 5th Brother' might just be blind. Grey/white mean to often "blind" in fiction.

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>>81129162
At any rate some shots of Maul in the teasers for the next episode show that he still has what appear to be the "whites" of his eyes.

This would not be adverse to his actual movie appearance. So now the question is whether Rebels just shows them differently (The Clone Wars version matched his movie look) or whether Inquisitor eyes aren't true "sith eyes", which is possible since they aren't true sith. Or maybe Maul is different by Rebels. At the very least he's not self-identifying as a Sith, while not denying that's what he was. Lies? Manipulation?

Haha, guess we'll find out.

>>81129296
>>81129162
Fuck, his eyes could be cybernetic/implants, and it'd be some pottery to the sister's mechanized voice?

>>81121365
One thing I disliked about TFA is how none of the worlds looked particularly alien.

Isn't the location in that shot an actual place in Ireland you can go to, completely unchanged from the real world?

>>81129296
Could be blind outside of the Force, though if that's the case it raises the issue of why he still wouldn't show the ocular corruption (one color change overriding another) or if somehow it collections in the eyes or ...whatever else is happening.

>>81129162
I remember listening to Pablo on a podcast and they asked a question about dark side eyes. He said it's pretty much up to the narrative or aesthetic wanted. Which is why Anakin has them and then doesn't.

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>>81129214
>mfw she only attacks Maul because she is fighting him for the right to take Ezra as her personal sex slave.

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>>81129367
It's worth noting that he's based on concept art for the Knights of Ren from The Force Awakens, who haven't shown any of the Sith Eye stuff. So I guess those eyes really were Sith Eyes and not just Dark Side corruption. Or maybe they all hide it. Or maybe it was a conscious decision not to show the same change because they wanted to emphasize that the Sith are gone and these are all new Dark Side dorks.

>>81129460
it's fun to speculate, meta reason would be "differentiating aesthetic", but I hope there's a better in-story one.

>>81129553
>it's fun to speculate, meta reason would be "differentiating aesthetic", but I hope there's a better in-story one.
I am completely fine with simply aesthetic reasons, but faggots complain that there always has to be an explanation, and then there's suddenly an official Zelda timeline that makes no sense.

(Speculation)

>Vader and Ahsoka fight
>Ahsoka comes close to dying when Kanan arrives and takes the fall
>With his dying breath, he tells Ahsoka to train Ezra
>Ezra is tempted by the dark side

Why can't I hold all this poetry?

>>81123797
Matt straight up sucks.

>>81129391
I prefer the idea that they can hide it, or that the eyes are a symptom of Dark Side madness, the overwhelming rush of negative emotions that tends to warp their views.

Most senior Sith, like Sidious and Dooku can hide it. I like to think of it as showing the mastery over self, the control over the more negatively influencing, out of control aspects of the Dark Side.

Maul and I believe Vader is meant to have it as per the books, well, that makes sense as they're both a different kind of Sith from Dooku or Sidious. They aren't stately manipulators (though Maul gave it a good run), they're weapons. They embrace the madness, the warped view of the galaxy the Dark Side has thrust on them. Vader especially uses it as a means of clinging to sanity, convinced that everyone betrayed him and that all he's suffered has merely made him stronger, more attuned with the Force than any weak lessons the Jedi ever taught him.

Anyway I always considered the ability to disguise the eyes was a higher level Dark Side ability. The Dark Side is supposed to be quicker, easier, more seductive, like a drug rush. Anakin dove right into the deep end of the pool and it showed.

Of course disguising their Sith eyes was useful for both Sidous and Dooku since they were public figures.

>>81129689
If Kanan is Qui-Gon then Ezra is Obi-Wan, not Ahsoka. Obviously Kanan wants Ezra to complete Ahsoka's training that she abandoned during the Clone Wars.

Ahsoka can then stand there with a look of pure WTF.

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>>81129616
Zelda and FF and a couple of other game franchises are just good at reusing the same names/plot elements over and over in just the right amount to deliever their gameplay.

I guess I'm just to bothered by a lack of coherence in the visual and textual side of storytelling, like the aesthetic has to follow the story and not stand out besides? If it's all just meant to look cool with no connection to/in the story it just cheapens the overall thing for me. But this is all highly subjective in what you can accept and what not.

>>81129126
>and also more black.

I think they just fucked up with her and resourced the eyes from the Grand Inquisitor. Mirialans don't have black sclera, whilst Pau'ans do.

>>81129162
Or he's just not that immersed in the dark side. Bear in mind, they weren't trained to be strong.

>>81129313
>Maul in the teasers for the next episode show that he still has what appear to be the "whites" of his eyes.

He's always had that. Same with Vader and Sidious. The dark side just alters the iris and forms a bloodshot rim around them. The Sclera remains the same. Hence; white for most characters and black for the Grand Inky.

>>81129214
Is that his saber? I guess we can assume so but?

>>81129925

Could be, probably? There's a new Darth Maul toy that includes a new double bladed lightsaber.

Not as long as his old one though. I'm sure someone has an image.

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>>81127889
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=74&v=LjkTZVlTHHc

>That bootydancing Leia

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To anyone wondering about Dicer.

>>81130220
Dang it Disney, let them make an unrated Rebels episode with unlimited cloth budget.

Disney could afford it

>>81130220
>They would've done that if they were unrated
What happened to the balls they had back during TCW.
Darth Disney cannot be that powwerful. Right? Right?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbG1C78k9Ak

2007 BBY was a different time.

>>81130220

Star Wars hates many British people

>>81121365
>tfw you disappear into a lost planet and your secret lovechild still finds you

>>81130255
>They'll never share the profits from TFA with rebels

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>tfw Darth Maul is actually a spooky ghost

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>>81130338
>tfw you're feeling hungry for fresh meat and the meat has just arrived
back on the menu

>>81130448
Even Jedi get horny

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>>81130338
>Goes out of his way to drop her off in the ass-end of the galaxy
>Hops from one planet to the next in hopes of sending people on a wild goose chase and hopes the trail goes cold
>Splits his trail into two parts
>Goes ALL THE WAY to the Unknown regions because nobody knows up from down there
>She still finds you

>>81130376
Indeed
It's just such a shame that Disney for some reason don't believe in Rebels, I mean, imagine the things they could do if Disney actually gave them budget to do what they want.

I haven't watched Star Wars cartoon much, but Maul is alive? In a cannon cartoon? What the fuck?

>>81130448

I wonder if he'll be more like an angrier, funnier Obi-wan. I'm looking forward to the zingers he throws at Rey in the opening.

>>81129384
I'm not sure how it comes off to people in other countries, but I'm Irish and it took me out of the film a bit.

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>>81130567
And he has a brother. Watch TCW

>>81129882
>Or he's just not that immersed in the dark side. Bear in mind, they weren't trained to be strong.
You have to remember that the Inquisition has origins in the Jedi. Most of the older Inquisitors were likely once Jedi. It's merely the Sith teachings they go light on so they aren't a threat to the Rule of Two.

>>81130642
>Maul
>Savage
>Tyrannus
Vader and Sidious were at least had something resembling subtlety, this is Legacy-tier

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>>81130567
Actual spoilers here: Get ready for SpiderMaul

>>81130030
If you watch the teaser where Ezra and Maul are talking about what he is you can see what appears to be a lightsaber at Maul's side. As opposed to the people who thought it might be built into his cane, another possibility and something we've seen before.

>>81130220
Her name is Deiser. Everyone fucks that up, though, even them. Go figure.

>>81130601
No, I'm American and it was the same thing for me. If anything, one of the things that took me out of the movie was that all of these planets had literally one singular location out in the middle of nowhere.

What took me out of the movie the most though, was the Guavian Death Gang guy with the thick as fuck Scottish accent. Nothing offensive about it, but it just felt... wrong.

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>>81130710
How exaclty did he make it from Naboo to god knows where and manage to make a spider-body for himslef? How did he even survive the fall?

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The owl at the end of the latest episode is Convor.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/convor

A picture of it also appeared TCW's "Missing in Action" episode as well.
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/clone-wars/missing-in-action-trivia-gallery

>>81130703
Maul, Savage and Feral come from a male-only village of proud stronk warriors, we should be glad that their cousins twice-removed Slicer and Killer weren't used by Talzin.

Also, has anyone a good screencap of Savage before and after Talzin did her magic on him? I want to compare the eyes.

>>81129882
>He's always had that. Same with Vader and Sidious
Trying to correct a post with the exact same information already included in the post, which also INCLUDING A PICTURE OF THAT EXACT SAME THING.

Critical reading comprehension failure.

>>81130501
>Splits his trail into two parts
Stop right there. He split a god damn force sensitive, project-able Star Map that was created from the KotOR years to find certain force users with a certain single. Think like the shitty blood ID from Dragon Age.

If the mother fucker didn't want to be found he shouldn't have made a god damn FORCE map that exactly knows his position at any time.

And before anyone says it. The based the map to show where Luke is off of the maps in KotOR and even do the same things like their counterparts from the game franchise.

>>81130765
We are never told that. Not shitting you, his brother gets him from a junkyard planet were he's been scuttling around for the 10 years since his halving. Hell, we don't even know how if he even eats anymore. Just fucking accept the asspullery in a kid cartoon to allow a villain to be fleshed out man.

>>81130830
>force sensitive, project-able Star Map
The map has force powers now?

>>81121179
No, he is here to save us.

First he must purge us of these emotions if we are to reach salvation.

>>81130902
>junkyard
I assumed he fell into the trash after the fight and was taken to the scrapheap
He probably ate small rat creatures

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>>81130763
>English accent is plausible
>scottish accent is too much

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>>81130905
Yeah, it's mentioned in one of the "How it works" or whatever they're called books for the Force Awakens? The map was based off the maps from KotOR which are force sensitive and some can be tuned to a single or group of peoples type of their force output. They basically copy and pasted it and instead of being created from a certain company from KotOR it's now just a ancient Force Relic or some nonsense.

There are smaller ones but here's one I picked up after searching a few seconds. The particular model shown in the movie is based off a certain one in ether the first or second game, I can't remember at this time.

>>81130784
I'm scared and I don't know why...

>>81130957
Unless zabrak anatomy is super bizarre, digesting and waste disposal might become a problem if you don't have half your lower intestines.

Yeah, of course we were meant to assume that he was shipped of with the other trash and made himself the body from spare parts and ate whatever he could scavenge, but come on, the narrative anus is prolapsing here from all the pulling.

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>>81130905
There have been multiple Star Maps in the Star Wars franchise but the movie directly takes its inspiration from KotOR and I believe like the ones from the game, the one in the movies are force sensed too. If I remember in-game someone compared it, a NPC, that it's like a fingerprint of where the person is at all time or something.

>>81131077
See >>81121204 and do some research. Nowadays they're mostly seen as wise and benign, but they've been also seen as bringers of bad omen/fate/death.

>>81130765
>>81130902
Being just an upper torso Maul managed to join a travelling freak show under the name "Half a Darth". The troupe went to the junkyard planet in question where Maul sensed his opportunity to build a bitchin' lower half and spend the next X years writing fanfic about killing Obi-Wan.

>>81131208
Now that's a headcanon I can accept.

>>81130988
No, not that it was "too much"... it was fine, but I guess it more has to do that we've not heard it before save for Whorm Loathsom.

It was just strange, really. Not to mention most of his dialogue was yelling.

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What if this is all just one giant ruse?

>>81130448
Yeah, I always wondered what happened to the Padawan bodies.

>>81131297
I've heard a Scottish accent in star wars before. Was in Swtor and it belonged to a Imperial felt right to me. Maybe you just associate the British and Scottish accents with Imperials very heavily or something

>>81131478
...probably. Subconsciously, maybe. It's most likely just a matter of exposure. I've not experienced many Scots in my life. Either Brits or Irish.

>>81130682
>It's merely the Sith teachings they go light on so they aren't a threat to the Rule of Two.

Yes and no. They are confirmed to be trained to be weak. Filoni or one of the showrunners straight up claimed that Vader could single-handedly kill them all easily.

>Obi-Wan trains Luke and Luke resists the Dark Side
>Maul trains Ezra and Ezra will probably fall to the Dark Side

>Both are killed by Vader all the same

>>81131551
Jesus Christ, anon, stating that Vader could kill them all hardly illustrates how they're all weak. He could go through nearly every surviving Jedi easily.

That's like saying that ninjas are weak because Godzilla could single-handedly kill them all easily.

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>>81121282

>>81131957
>ninjas
Samurai, just for slightly more accuracy.

>>81131795
I want to see the last ten episodes of Rebels just having all the Rebels dying and Erza left standing and having Darth Vader slowly walk behind him and killing him, cuts to black before you here the saber go off but you clearly see the hilt of the saber before its turned on, on Erza back.

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>>81121282

>>81132277
I have no problem with Hera, Zeb, Sabine and Chopper (and now AP-5) surviving. It's just Ahsoka, Kanan and Ezra who need to die.

>>81132277
>Darth Vader slowly walk behind him and killing him, cuts to black before you here the saber go off but you clearly see the hilt of the saber before its turned on, on Erza back.

Calm down captain edge

>>81131194
Uh oh.

>>81132277
What

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>>81132277

>>81132412
I hope no one dies so the spregs get pissed

>>81132277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG-bJctQy9U

Credits music :^)

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>>81121282
>>81127358
We have very similar sabers.

>>81132675
Anon that wouldn't fit right considering A Day To Remember will be playing when Vader kills Ezra

>>81132735
There can only be one, Anonymous
Clearly you see what you must do.Embrace your anger. Let it flow through you

>>81132277
>and having Darth Vader slowly walk behind him and killing him, cuts to black before you here the saber go off but you clearly see the hilt of the saber before its turned on, on Erza back.
Then whispering into his ear "Nothing Personal Kid"

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>>81132735
Great minds think alike!

>>81132800
I'm pretty sure the Rebels sound design team can do a remix of both songs.

>>81132904
>>81132735
Get a room you two

Why is Kylo such a scrub? He supposedly has been training for a lot of his life and is 25-30.

In his late teens Obi-Wan defeated Maul.
Mid teens Ashoka was taking on holding her own and at least surviving encounters with Grevious.
Kanan was fighting pretty well as a young teen.
Anakin murdered the entire Jedi order at 22.
Luke faced down the two most powerful Sith ever at 23 all while only have trained for a few years.

Yet Kylo can't even beat a no training scrub like Rey.

>post yfw Ezra 'falls' and is redeemed by the end of the episode so they can start season 3 on status quo.

>>81132277
Look, with the Inquisitors, Kanan and Erza kicking the bucket is enough.
Also, avoid Akame Ga Kill, it's too edgy, even 4U

>>81133054
Rey had the higher moral ground.

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>>81132964
You want to join?

>>81133054
To be fair, he was shot and bleeding out for like 10 minutes prior to the fight and Finn managed to poke his shoulder with the lightsaber before he went down. Plus Rey fought people on Jakku growing up, so she wasn't entirely untrained. Plus >>81133154

>>81133154
She underestimates his moral power

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>>81133054
>B-but Kylo Ren was shot and was s-scared from killing Han

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>>81133182
What?! N-no, I'd never...
maybe

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Anyone have The Force Awakens mega?

>>81133230
>wounds don't affect force users

I don't have an appropriate kylo reaction webm/gif. someone post one for me.

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>>81121282
best saber coming through

>>81133054
>He supposedly has been training for a lot of his life and is 25-30.

I wouldn't go that far. We have no knowledge of how long he was at Luke's Temple. And Snoke himself said that Kylo's training was incomplete.

>In his late teens Obi-Wan defeated Maul.
Early 20s, actually. And Qui-gon was one of the best swordsmen in the order at the time. Makes total sense that his apprentice would be a bit above average.

>Mid teens Ashoka was taking on holding her own and at least surviving encounters with Grevious.
She was avoiding him mostly. Those instances pretty much showed that she couldn't take him on one on one.

>Kanan was fighting pretty well as a young teen.
I can't really comment on this. I haven't read the Kanan comics yet.

>Anakin murdered the entire Jedi order at 22.
Most of the order. Give some credit to the Clones. And he was force Jesus anyway. Even by AOTC they regarded how powerful and skilled he was for his age.

>Luke faced down the two most powerful Sith ever at 23 all while only have trained for a few years.

And his training at the time was ridiculously sub par. He didn't get out of that by martial prowess or even knowledge of the force. He got out of it because of Sidious' hubris and Vader's wavering feelings.

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>>81133280

>>81133363
But they're able to sustain more damage/pain than a non-force user.

>>81133188
>Plus Rey fought people on Jakku growing up, so she wasn't entirely untrained.

Kinda she is. Experience in street fighting =/= formal structured training in martial arts

You can be a great fighter. But that doesn't necessarily mean you trained to be that.

>>81133453
Does SS have a boyfriend a cute boyfriend?

>>81133485
yeah. a normal dude would have probably bled out in the snow before catching up to Rey and Finn.

>>81133433
>He got out of it because of Sidious' hubris and Vader's wavering feelings.
Don't sell him short. He defeated Vader 1 on 1.

Heck, even Ezra shows more knowledge and talent than Kylo.

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>>81133280

>>81133054
> He supposedly has been training for a lot of his life and is 25-30.
No, he wasn't. He didn't finish Jedi training, and Snoke basically didn't train him at all.
>Mid teens Ashoka was taking on holding her own and at least surviving encounters with Grevious.
>Kanan was fighting pretty well as a young teen.
War time = much more xp
>Anakin murdered the entire Jedi order at 22.
With a clone battalion
>Luke faced down the two most powerful Sith ever at 23 all while only have trained for a few years.
He only fought Vader, and Vader was never trying to kill him.
Kylo was shot by a blaster that knocks normal people several feet back and literally walked it off. He was also overwhelmed from killing Han Solo, wouded by Finn and probably tired from fighting him too. Dude is a badass

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>>81133302
https://mega.nz/#!mdhBVSQD!B5pWSYXIk2aUUv4YJiKWNBOH6R85H3-4MVZzRdAJAGE

>>81133529
I thought it was weird that Kylo was even bleeding.
Lasers generally burn through so it should have created a crust? I don't remember the word for when you use heat to close a wound..

ANH doesn't count

>>81133530
>He defeated Vader 1 on 1.

Because of Vader's inner conflict. If his feelings were straitened out, he could've easily beaten Luke.

By end of ROTJ, Luke is still not a very skilled as many think him to be. I'm still of mind that even Kanan could've beaten him.

>even Ezra shows more knowledge and talent than Kylo.

Agreed.

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>>81133525
Maybe SS and Fifth Brother are friends with benefits?

>>81133632
Hyperspace anomalies. If anything in TFA doesn't make sense, the answer is always hyperspace anomalies.

>>81133687
Only with the other 4.

>>81133632
Maybe it was because he kept hitting it?
Like picking at a scab?

>>81133687
They're clearly not friends to begin with, so that's unlikely.

Unless they're into hatefucking.

>>81133632
Cauterize is the word you're looking for, I was surprised he was bleeding too.

>>81133632
>I don't remember the word for when you use heat to close a wound..

Cauterization. And it's not unheard of from people bleeding from a blast wound. In TCW season 2 finale, Castus apparently started to bleed when Aurra shot him.
>Hondo: Someone clean that guy off the floor! He sprung a leak.

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>>81133708
>Hyperspace anomalies

>>81133738
Yeee, that could be it.
Like when you've got a wound and you accidentally pick off the top and it starts bleeding again.

>>81133750
>>81133759
Thanks, that's the word!


>>81133741
That does sound like something Sith would do.

>>81133866
>That does sound like something Sith would do.

But they're not Sith.

Can someone post the video where Vader shoots Ashoka and after she is dead he comes again to continue shooting? Thank you

Force-wielders are capable of unbelievable prowess, but they're still human (okay, not in the sense as a species). Even Vader could be taken by surprise: Han's intervention in ANH blew him away, and Luke while not completly trained managed to push him back in Cloud City when Vader didn't took the fight seriously.

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Weird question but does anyone know where I can find the Force Awakens poster without the logo? I wanted to photoshop on a fan-logo that more resembles the prequel trilogy and ot special edition logos

>>81127152
>I lost all hope when in one of the early episodes the alien dude jumped on a Tie Fighter and ripped the pilot out of the cockpit.

You mean stuff they were doing in the TCW?

>>81133981

Here you go, fampai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSK1ft5nnTo

>>81124180
Some inquisitors and Ahsoka. Maul and Kanan survive to die in another season.

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>>81134040

>>81134057
Or Chewie going tarzan against an AT-ST.

>>81134114
I was hoping for it with its regular dimensions

>>81133122
They might surprise us and make his fall last longer than a couple of episodes, but I'm not counting on it.

>>81127152
Yeah, it comes from the writers misunderstanding the AT-ST hijack scene in ROTJ. Chewie never forced the hatch open by himself, he had to rely on Ewoks to trick the drivers into opening it.

>>81133750
Considering it was a blast from Chewbacca's weapon that flips people through the air? Even if wounds cauterize any exertion without medical treatment could open/reopen the wound.

Most likely his cloak is some kind of combat weave, seems like everyone else was wearing some kind of cloth body protection. Or maybe not, Sith and Jedi seem to avoid such things. Except that one time Obi-Wan had a body armor so awesome that he could wear it under his robes and it absorbed a fucking high powered blaster sniper rifle shot. You'd think he was wearing one of the Zillo Beast's toenails under his robes.

>>81123441
Is this image like that one guy that had his "girlfriend" take a picture of him when he was sleeping but then you see in the mirror behing him it's just him taking a selfie?

>>81133453
"Hello Ezra. As you can see I've got all the cameras set up, so let's get started shall we?"

>>81134244
yee

>>81134144
Too big to upload so here you go senpai, http://img.goldposter.com/2015/10/Star-Wars-Episode-VII-The-Force-Awakens_poster_goldposter_com_21.jpeg Best I could find.

>>81128646
He'll see an evil version of himself during some sort of vision quest, that's all.

>>81134308
Oh fuck this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.

>>81124121
>>81124927

Look closely he's standing in front of a grave. Though weather or not it contains Anakin's ashes or someone else remains to be seen.

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>>81134257
>>81133453
>/ss/ will never make you her sexslave and make you please her all days long

>>81134393
Maybe, but he's ont looking at the grave (it it isn't just some random rock) but at the ocean.

>>81134422
She pleases herself with her robots. You just get to watch.

>>81133579
>No, he wasn't. He didn't finish Jedi training, and Snoke basically didn't train him at all.

Of course he didn't finish his training with Luke... because he killed Luke's students with his lightsaber skills. The TFA Visual Dictionary confirms this.

Also, Snoke says it's time to COMPLETE his training and refers to Kylo as his greatest apprentice.

Stop this non-sense. Kylo isn't some scrub. He's an incredibly impressive force-user.

>>81134393
>Look closely he's standing in front of a grave
It's not. It's just an upturned rock.

>>81133932
>From a certain point of view

>>81131423
They never said the padawans were killed, story wise it makes more sense if they all turned into the knights of Ren. It would explain why Luke wanted to find a Jedi academy since he would want to know how to train people properly.

>>81134592
>because he killed Luke's students with his lightsaber skills
He didn't even know how to build a saber properly. I'm guessing his skills were less then adequate. And he had knights of Ren with him.
>Also, Snoke says it's time to COMPLETE his training and refers to Kylo as his greatest apprentice.
I'm still more inclined to believe that Snoke is just using him rather than really grooming to be his successor or anything. He decides to train him in the end olny out of sheer necessity .
>Stop this non-sense. Kylo isn't some scrub. He's an incredibly impressive force-user
But that's what I'm saying! He is just untrained, and had numerous circumstances against him in duel with Rey.

>>81134954
>He didn't even know how to build a saber properly.

He knows how to build a saber, jackass. He just used an old design with a cracked kyber crystal.

And he alone killed Luke's students. This is fact. He isn't untrained at all. He spent a good while training under Luke and then trained under Snoke.

>>81134954

why do people like you use speculation when they guy just post stuff that's actual fact.

>you're inclined to believe

shut the fuck up.

How safe is the download for Chaika no bocu?

>>81135082
>How safe is
Better watch out
Dont want a virus to get installed when you run that video file

>>81135027
>he alone killed Luke's students
source?
>shut the fuck up.
Again, source on Snoke training him and his intentions for Kylo

>>81134895
>From a certain point of view

What point of view? They were not give actual Sith teachings. They have a bare bones training to such an extent that the average Padawan could contend with or defeat. Most things can be seen from a certain point of view. But for some, there is only one way to.

Inquisitors =/= Sith.

Face it son. Your canon is dead.jpg

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>>81135082
I can assure you I didn't upload 10 gigs as a joke.
There was no malicious intent.

>>81135082
not in the slightest, turned my computer into a hydrogen bomb

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>>81135246

TFA Visual Dictionary. Gives alot of info that should've been featured in the movie, but for some reason wasn't.

>>81135082
Its an mkv. The only risk is that it might actually be 10 gigs of Chaika episodes.

>>81124446
>Implying I don't main Yoshimitsu

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How long till Star Wars is given the marvel treatment and given 300 parallel universes.

>>81135635
Is that meant to be Daft Punk?

>>81135058
In his defense there is still grounds for speculation...from certain points of view.

For instance we still don't know when and at what age Kylo Ren betrayed the Jedi Order, so we don't know the extent to which Kylo Ren was trained. We also don't know WHAT Luke was teaching them, for instance it's entirely possible that he skipped a lot of their martial training in favor of raising his students in peace, away from the temptation of conflict that wrecked them the first time (that is an assload of speculation, but at least possible). We also don't know precisely how far Kylo Ren's ... Ren training (for lack of a better word), although he IS said to be the Master of the Knights of Ren.

Anyway yeah there's still a lot of fill in the blanks left and some of what we do know is still a bit up to interpretation. For instance the script says that Han hadn't seen his son as a man until Kylo removed his helmet in front of him. How that does suggest that Ben was taken when he was still relatively young, not yet a man (whatever "man age" is in Star Wars, with it's weird space legalities, wink wink). But that presumption is based on the notion that once Ben was in Luke's keeping Han and Leia still saw him. Visits, holocalls, stuff like that. It's possible, though, that such contact is not done (sort of like the old Jedi Order's prohibition against retaining familiar connections) or maybe Ben himself was so pissed off at being palmed off on his uncle he didn't want to talk to them.

>>81135716
Cyber Punk

>>81135379
I don't mind that, to an extent, but it's the stuff that IS in the Visual Dictionary and yet is not in the movie. Like the NR and Resistance aren't all buddy buddy, the Resistance can't just call up NR fleets and what help Leia gets is from her few supporters. She has a representative in the movie who was begging for help and not having any luck.

But if you just watch the movie the opening crawl says they're pals and Hux acts like his only reason for destroying the NR isn't revenge for the Empire, no, he just wants to cut off the Resistance from their primary allies in the Senate. And the Senate supposedly hated them!

There is a MAJOR disconnect there. By comparison that woman in Maz's who sold them out is specifically said to be a spy in the Visual Dictionary, but in the movie she looks like she's just collecting the bounty on BB-8. That's something the barely matters. The other stuff? Huge fucking deal.

>>81135788
Star Wars robot uprising when? Giving how they're generally treated like shit I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.

>>81135868
Im with you on this. Aren't most droids sentient? Why haven't they tried to become more intelligent or independent?

I guess this falls into line with Space Werewolves from the unedited, first Star Wars movie.

>>81135868
im hoping we get more of that with chopper and friend since it was touched upon in that episode

>>81135940
>Why haven't they tried to become more intelligent or independent?

Restraining bolts and regular memory wipes.

>>81135868
There's an attempt at one in TOR. You quell it.

>>81135868
Well you have the Droid Gotra, a criminal organization founded by ex-Battle Droids whose goals are ending organic supremacy in the galaxy and freeing their metallic brethren from organic servitude.

>>81135635
One is all they need. It's called 'Legends'

>>81135868
There was one in TOR
You pretty much put a swift stop to it

>>81135302
I'm still not sure what exactly the difference between a Sith and a dark side user is other than the name tbqh

>>81136215
traditions, ideology, culture, training methods, philosophy.

>>81136215
It's pretty easy
Dark Side user is a broader categoty - anyone who uses dark side, obviously
A sith is a follower of specific traditions and rituals dedicated to destroying the JEdi and taking over the galaxy.

>>81136215
Sith follow a specific code, dark side users just use the dark side.

>>81136127
idk I really like the idea of Kotor and Swtor being its own universe separate from Legends and Nu Canon. Legends is convoluted as all fuck and Nu Canon doesn't need all the baggage Kotor would bring. It being a parallel universe is perfect

>>81136215

All Sith are those who use the dark side. But not all those who use the dark side are Sith.

>>81136329
But what are their codes and traditions? In the main body of work all I can gloss is they only let two people be in their secret club and like taking things over like any evil-doer would. Darth Vader doesn't seem meaningfully different from the Inquisitors other than his rank and raw power.

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>>81135635
I think the reason they are actually handling the canon the way they are is because its a great parallel to Marvel. Instead of having all the stories split between 400 different timelines, only have one coherent timeline with all the stories in it.

>>81136561
>But what are their codes and traditions?

All of that, as of yet, has not been revealed. Much like with the Jedi. All we really know is that of all the dark side users that have existed (Nightsisters, Knights of Ren, ect), the Sith are the most immersed and powerful group to have ever existed.

>>81136561
The biggest thing with the Sith is power for its own sake. They're all about gaining power and doing whatever it takes to get it, up to and including stabbing each other in the back. Sith philosophy is fundamentally selfish.

Contrast to the Nightsisters, who also work with the dark side but aren't really trying to conquer or increase their power and are mostly content to just stay on their planet and practice their ways there (well, until Talzin anyway, but given that she traded recipes with Sidious that may be where she started going a little power hungry)

>>81136215
Think of the Dark Side as any of the big religions on Earth. Dark Side is a small sect within that religion that follows the basic rules, but ultimately makes up their own way to teach to followers. ""#notallmuslims are bad, but the jihadists,"" something like that.

>>81136561
>In the main body of work all I can gloss is they only let two people be in their secret club and like taking things over like any evil-doer would
We don't know the full details of Sith teachings, but it really comes down to just being power-hungry bastards to the greatest extreme. They want power at any cost, to the point that they're terrified of death moreso than normal people because it represents the greatest loss of power and everything they've acquired in the material world. The reason the Rule of Two exists is because the Sith way encourages backstabbing, so when you get more than two people who subscribe to this "I want power for myself, fuck everyone else" way of thinking it gets really messy.

>>81136724
It just occurred to me that the Sith are basically the Ayn Rands of the Force-using sects.

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>>81135452
>not best girl

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>>81136939

>the Sith are basically the Ayn Rands of the Force-using sects

Pretty much.

>>81123742
Ew no.

>>81136715
There's quite a bit we know. Sith philosophy is one of absolute domination. This isn't a Dark Side thing, necessarily. Sith are about making huge empires and furthering the spread of the Dark Side via causing as much suffering and despair in the galaxy as they can. What makes them especially heinous is they will not tolerate ANY rival power, not even a group of Light Siders like the Jedi, or even within their own group. They owe allegiance to none save themselves. Other Sith are mere convenience, necessary but ultimately disposable when the time is right.

This is why the Jedi cannot abide the Sith to exist. They seek to corrupt the galaxy and WILL engage in total warfare against the Jedi, so the Jedi have to respond in kind.

We know a bit about the Night Sisters thanks to Ventress (it's arguably that her views of the Night Sisters, especially their powers, is derived from her upbringing as a Jedi and later a Sith assassin/secret apprentice). The Night Sisters use both the Light and the Dark. They ride the edge between them, but are by no means Grey. They can use the Light and do have loyalties and love, reserved only for each other (doesn't seem to be much lost between them and the Night Brothers, though). They use the Dark Side for it's power, but are trained to resist falling too deeply under its seduction. Thus they can use the powers of either but are owe neither side their allegiance. They do, however, heavily favor the Dark Side perhaps because you can't fully escape its influence no matter how strong you think you are.

This seems to be why the Jedi leave the Night Sisters alone. They keep mostly to themselves and aren't interested in creating Witch Empires. However they are also limited to Dathomir due to their reliance on the Waters of Life, brewed by cutting parts off an ancient, Force heavy fish monster. Go figure.

>>81137100
Hey now, it takes all kinds, anon. Some people like the brooding, awkward, emotionally damaged young man.

>>81135940
Droids who go beyond their programming tend to get awfully crazy and buggy.

R2 and Chopper are basically best-case scenarios with independent droids. Just look how Chopper's navigator buddy goes from obedient droid to violent, foulmouthed jerk.

>>81137183
He looks inbred.

>>81137211
Another fine Skywalker tradition.

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>>81137211
Like his old man

>>81137269
The Skywalkers are all cute though, Kylo is a hideous anomaly.

>>81137211
What if he's Luke and Leia's son?

>>81137373
Again, just because he doesn't float your motorboat doesn't mean he doesn't, somehow, work for others.

Not me, but I'm not into dudes anyway.

>>81137439
>doesn't mean he doesn't, somehow, work for others.

For tumblrwhales who get off to Cumberbatch? Sure.

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>>81137322
>Ford grew into his looks
>Driver still looks the same

kek

>>81137472
I used to think he's fugly, but he kinda grew on me

>>81137472
Well it's clear where your certain point of view comes from.

>>81137590
Still fugly though.

>>81137750
Eh, just a bit assymetrical

>>81137785
>cancer spots
>small eyes too high up
>huge broken nose
>crooked chin
>dumbo ears

Absolutely disgusting.

Talking about the Sith like this has me thinking. The Jedi have had a very checked past, at least hinted at, mostly in legends but legends that have a definite grain of truth. Like Yoda talking about how the Jedi and Sith both had ancient kyber-based superweapons in the past.

The Dagoyan Masters also accused the Jedi of having kidnapped Bardontan children in the past. Mace Windu sort of glossed over this but certainly seemed uncomfortable.

I suspect the Jedi did do this, around the same point when they'd become so desperate or lost in their way that they began building and deploying superweapons. I think that the Jedi began desperate enough to abduct Light Side oriented Force using children to indoctrinate because they needed to shore up their numbers against the Sith.

I suspect this is another bit of the Jedi history that has fallen into "legend", basically been sanitized from the official recording of history.

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So we know Kylo is a "Sith artifact collector" right? Do you think we will see more of that in VIII and the extended canon? I was dissapointed to see it not brought up in TFA

>>81137869
>So we know Kylo is a "Sith artifact collector" right?
Not really. We just know he's a Vader fanboy. We have no idea what he thinks of the Sith as a whole, just that her worships grandpa. His lightsaber being modeled on that of an ancient Sith (not officially confirmed to be Revan yet) might indicate he admires the Sith as a whole but we don't really know enough to be sure.

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>>81137830
Nah, he's alright

>>81137830
He's married tho. More than the majority of people will achieve on this site.

>>81137957
I just remember hearing the term thrown around so many times before the movie was actually released it resonated with me. I suppose that is why I took it for fact

>>81137852
>Like Yoda talking about how the Jedi and Sith both had ancient kyber-based superweapons in the past.

I thought he said that just the Sith possessed those kinds of weapons.

>>81137869

>Sith artifact collector

This was never implied in the movie. He almost worships Darth Vader so having his torched broken helmet is probably the second most important relic he could own after his light saber.

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CHOOSE YOUR FIGHTER!

>>81138163

B-Wing for life.

>>81138163
B-wing

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>>81138163
PEW PEW PEW PEW

>>81138163
Which one is the safest?

>>81138225
How many plot armor tokens ya got?

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>>81137977

>>81138073
It's more open ended, I suppose. Yoda talks about when the Jedi and Sith were vying for control of the galaxy. Weapons (plural) of immense destructive ability, always with massive kybers at their hearts, were used.

There may be insinuation and implications drawn that aren't warranted. however the Jedi of old went total war against the Sith, and we saw what happened the last time the Sith and Jedi did that. They Jedi lost their way.

Anyway after the Sith were believed extinct both the Republic and the Jedi themselves reorganized. The Jedi were no longer a military body and were relegated purely to keeping the peace. This seems to be in reaction to what they became, what it could be argued they had to become, to defeat the Sith.

When you add in the accusations of the Dagoyan Masters, well, the picture painted of the Jedi of old isn't always a pretty one.

>>81138284
3?

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>>81138163
Pleb choices

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>>81138315

>>81138403
I trust him

>>81138047
That was the old rumor, yeah. Mostly it was based on the idea that Kylo had not only the burnt Vader helmet, but also wore a Revan helmet (this was before people got a clearer picture of his helmet and realized no, it's not literally the Revan mask)

>>81138163
>nobody picking the Intercepter
plebeians the lot of you

>>81138450
You know, he's be a great Vos, now that I look at it

>>81138558
B-but Vos is black...

>>81138598
Shut up, we can work with this
Just trust me

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>>81138163
>no ARC-170

Shit tier choices

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>>81138644
>the not-x-wing

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>>81138644

>Lego versions are sold out everywhere and they run for $300+ on ebay

>>81121365
why does this feel so awkward

>>81138949
Because it aint Star Wars. I should've cut at the Falcon going lightspeed.

>>81139125
This. But then people would bitch and moan about Luke not being there

>>81139221
>>81139125
The final shot should have been Luke grabbing the lightsaber

>>81139247
Why? He has one already. Why did Rey even handle it to him?

>>81139247
With the Force or his ass?

>>81139303
hmmm good point.

I do feel like there should have been a last action shot or something. SOMETHING should have happened before the cut to credits

>>81139347
I'm going out on a limb and presuming they want it pulled from Rey's cold dead hands.

>>81139247
>>81139377
>SOMETHING should have happened before the cut to credits


Luke grabs lightsaber, Rey stands next to him, both look out into the sunset with the force theme playing, credits. Basically like ROTS's ending, but with Luke and Rey on Ahch-to.

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>>81130220
>Deiser was stripped naked and carried into the spider caves

>>81139832
>back when JJ Abrams was first working on the project with screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan, he evidently toyed with the idea of taking the movie in a much, much darker direction than we originally saw on screen. So much so, in fact, that after Rey finds Luke and handles him the lightsaber, we were going to see this:

"Luke takes the lightsaber. The mask is the very last thing - and then Luke ignites it and says, 'Now I am Rey."

>>81139972
Yeah, half of her naked body was carried to the spider caves, the rest was eaten on the spot.

>>81130220
>Deiser was stripped naked and taken into the spider caves
>She was never harmed but turned into a brood mother where the rock spiders deposit their eggs into her and she's forced to birth more of them
>They treasure her greatly and supply her with as much food as she's able to consume

>>81140036
The question is which half was carried away. This is important.

>>81130755
>Go figure.
She's just a red shirt, that's all she ever was. Heck, that's all the Phoenix Squadron ever became in this show.

>>81140246
And it's always the female pilots that get blown up/eaten too. I wonder if that's intentional.

>>81139816
Now that would be a twist.

Luke just strait up kills her for finding him, fearing if one can so will others.

Can anyone explain the Rule of Two to me and if it's still cannon?

>>81140325
Didn't you already ask this a couple threads ago