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Post and discuss the nature of the DARK SIDE.

>you will never attend the "Moraband" Academy in its prime

MAUL IS BAE

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Discuss the history and philosophy of the Sith Lords of Old.

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>>81063749

>>81063860
Bane?

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Do you think that Obi-Wan and Maul will have their final rematch or will Darth Vader end his prolonged life in the season finale?

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Magicks, alchemy, curses, artifacts, etc.

The Dark Side goes in this thread.

http://the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list

Tourb is back.

>>81063822
>>81063860
Your sad devotion to that ancient continuity has not helped you bring reasonable discussion to this thread

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>You're a dead mon

What did he mean by this?

>>81063895
It would be poetry, but it would also be a pretty big stretch.
Most likely will be Vader going apeshit because he reminds him of Kenobi. In fact, I can see Ashoka's one avenue of survival being that he goes after Maul instead.

>>81064027
He's a digimon.

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>>81063958
>>81063860
>>81063822
And above all, never forget

>Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
>Through passion, I gain strength.
>Through strength, I gain power.
>Through power, I gain victory.
>Through victory, my chains are broken.
>The Force shall free me.

Kintik hadzuska sutta chwituskak! Kintik hadzuska sutta chwituskak! Jiaasjen Jidai, jiassjen Jidai!

>>81063970
Are you sure those are old? I feel like I've seen them years ago.

>>81064027
he actually said Yoorad, Eadmun.
He was talking to his two henchmen.

>>81063958

>BL-1707

This guy was my nigga back in the old comics. Its a good thing he's non-canon now because I wouldn't wish his fate to happen to any character.

>>81064073
Did he even have two left that weren't being digested or tenderly tentacled?

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>>81064027
I need more Kanjiklub

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Ironic, wasn't he?

>>81064181
>Rey will never look at your concentrated dough with such tender longing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQbAve5UKvo

Maul and Ezra

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Dark Side posers need not apply.

True practitioners only.

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Six days of life left

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Nightsister time???

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>>81064262
Says you.

http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/03/poes-clothes-description-episode-viii.html
>Poe is the new Han
I don't know how to feel about this.

>>81064027
Hey it's Odda the Virgin.

Seriously guys check out BBC's The Last Kingdom, he was great in it.

Let the Dank Side flow through you.

>>81064230
Based Maul. I hope he stays alive for more than 1 episode.

>>81064027
'AN SOOOOLOOOO

>>81064189
Imagine being Sheev in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Darth Plagueis, you fuckin' powerful, all imposing with your dark robes and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally learn from you, both as an apprentice and the real me." when all he really wants to do is torture another Jedi in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Sheev and not only sit in that chair while Darth Plagueis flaunts his ironic power in front of you, the favorable circumstance barely concealing your blatant plot to kill him, and just sit there, lecture after lecture, lesson after lesson, while he perfected that power. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fucking visage but his haughty attitude as everyone tells him he's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, DARTH PLAGUEIS HAS POWERS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch his mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been manipulating nothing but a healthy diet of royalty and senators and later alleged spinning victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Naboo. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his dimpled forehead as he furrows it in concentration at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to learn from his "wise" (for that is what he calls himself) counsel, the power he worked so hard for with his half baked master in the previous decades. And then he calls for another lesson, and you know you could kill every single person in this galaxy before the Jedi could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Sheev. You're not going to lose your future Dictatorship over this. Just bear it. Warp your face and bear it.

>>81064304
>We know more about Ep 8 than we do about Rogue One

>>81064304
Poe seems to have that rogueish kind of personality so I guess I can see it

>>81063749
Are we allowed to say general because new moot said he doesnt give a fuck?

>>81064474
We've been calling it /swg/ in the thread name for months, anon.

>>81064458
No one cares about Rogue One sadly.

>>81064458
there were some photos from the sets posted on /tv/. Nothing special, except for a dude in a mocap suit

>>81064604
I care about it a lot. But it is a black hole of news.

>>81064504
Really?

I never pay attention, I just get linked and skip OP's first post.

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>>81064604
Yeah, because literally nothing beyond that 1 photo has been released to the public.

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Does anyone have links to scans of the Star Wars English-Japanese Dictionary?

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OG darksider in the thread, wannabes btfo

How come Ian McDiarmid isn't used for Sheev voiceovers?

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>>81064745
>that pic
Aurra a cute!

also check the archive, the anon who scanned em posted it all a while back.

>>81064726
I'm disappointed in you, anon

>>81064779
He's British.

>>81064779
He's expensive

>>81064779
Too expensive, most probably. And even if he's not, getting Curry, Witwer and/or whoever else voiced Sheev in TCW is cheaper anyway

>>81064453
IMAGINE

>>81064786

>katakana spell out Kuroun*Komandaa Kodei
>not Kodii

Shamefur dispray

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>>81064830
Hearing Witwer as Sheev is always disappointing, I don't think he's very good at it. At least, what gets in to the final product isn't very good. I would have liked somebody else for his Rebels cameo. Preferably somebody not dead.

>>81064830

Getting Ian Abercrombie (who voiced Sheev for most of TCW) would actually be extremely expensive, given the need to invent either a time machine or a resurrection device.

>>81065021
It's Kodi. The small ィ changes the de to di.

>>81065127

Really?

Oh wait, I looked over the katakana chart again, I'm an idiot. Didn't realize the kana that would be di actually turns into ji, so they have to fake it like that.

>>81065032
Mike Stoklasa would the best voice stand in for Sheev.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akXL_4tM1aE

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/24/darth-maul-returns-star-wars-rebels

>Maul sidestepping the Sith question with the truth
I dig it

>>81065252

He may actually no longer consider himself a Sith.

He's still evil, obviously, but he might have rejected the Sith.

>>81065219
I hope the TFA Plinket review comes out soon.

>>81065374
maybe, but I think from his reaction he still considers himself Sith and just wanted to mislead Ezra

>>81065252
Well he stopped being a Sith in TPM, by Palpatine's choice.

>>81064263
>Lightsaber whip
Shit tier fanart.

>>81065443
yeah the lines of what makes someone Sith have kind of been blurred. Hell, If you read the Darth Plagueis novel (not canon, i know) Maul was never really a Sith because Sidious was actually an apprentice for the duration of his training. I consider Maul and Savage Sith, but not of the linage of Bane, some kind of offshoot

>>81065432
He obviously isn't one since his master has rejected him, but yeah I don't think he's abandoned the teachings or philosophy of the sith.

Basically sith in all but name like Ahsoka and the jedi.

>>81065512
Its concept art for SW: Forces of corruption
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Silri

>>81065564
>Basically sith in all but name like Ahsoka and the jedi.
It kind of rhymes. Like poetry.

>>81065594
He knows that, he's trying to be sarcastic.

>>81065404
>Plinket

Return to /tv/ please.

>>81065621
Fuck you, the Plinkett reviews are funny. Or do you disagree because you think the Prequels were actually masterpieces?

>>81065443

In Palpatine's opinion, you mean.

In TCW, Maul set himself up as the Master of a competing Sith pair. Each pair considered the other illegitimate and sought to destroy it, so both pairs were trying to conform to the Rule of Two.

Maul's apprentice is dead and he has been forced into exile, and has apparently not taken a new apprentice. A Sith Master without an apprentice is master over nothing and no one. Maul was Sith, but isn't really any longer, not unless he can take a new apprentice and strike back against Palpatine and Vader to contest the title.

>>81065594
Empire At War is a waste of potential.Space battles are fun though.

>twilight of the apprentice
the apprentice is maul

>>81065674
the ground battles were lacking, especially in multiplayer.

>>81065662
Cancer.

what if tfa got the reviews bvs is getting now

>>81065720
Don't forget such great examples of design like the TIE Mauler, AKA we strapped treads to a TIE Fighter.

What exactly is the Rule of Two? Is it still cannon?

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Would TFA have been better if Finn were the Jedi? I mean, he's already the main hero anyway so why not?

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>>81065662
>/tv/ing this hard

Just go.

>>81065516
>I consider Maul and Savage Sith, but not of the linage of Bane, some kind of offshoot
Maybe even the last actually "true" sith?

>>81065663
It was an opinion until Palpatine moved on with his plans and brought Dooku aboard. Then it was all but confirmed.

Palpatine is the only True Sith in this equation. He is directly part of the Sith lineage set forth by Bane. Anyone else trying to muscle their way in (Maul) is just a silly imposter that is getting in above their head with something they can't actually handle.

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>Vader's Secret

WHERE IS IT?

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>>81065621
>>81065743
>>81065806
oh the ironing

>>81065674
I played the fuck out of Empire at War.

Now I have to just settle for mods of Homeworld and Sins of a Solar Empire because The Mouse will never allow a Star War RTS game to exist again.

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>>81065674
>>81065720
Ground battles were lame, but the space battles were fun, agreed.

I use to bump up the unit limit, create a bunch of Star Destroyers, and just fuck the AI's shit up on custom large maps I dl'd

http://www.starwars.com/news/4-star-wars-games-that-let-you-feel-the-power-of-the-dark-side

>>81065848
You really want to know?

When Ahsoka told Kanan that she doesn't really have any claim on Jedi business and told Ezra she's not really a Jedi she meant it.

She was secretly converted by Anakin years ago. She's been undercover for him, working as his Secret Apprentice. Not even Palpatine knows. Vader is hoping to use her to empower a full Rebellion in the hopes of weakening Sheev enough to dethrone him.

>>81065796
I am in the camp that don't want Finn to be a Jedi, I want him to be the character who manages to be just as strong without being force sensitive!

>>81065793
Rule of Two is the entirety of the first 6 movies. There's a Sith Master (Palpatine) and Sith Apprentices he is training (Maul, Dooku, Vader). There can only be one of each at a time, hence the "Two" part. The Apprentice eventually grows strong enough to overpower and kill the Master (ROTJ) to become the Master who takes on a new Apprentice and starts the cycle over. ROTJ stopped the cycle because Vader died and did not have an actual Apprentice to take his place; that's why there are no Sith in TFA.

>>81065897
It got too easy at a point.

Defending a level 5 space station was the easiest thing in the world, even when the other fleet brings 100+ capital ships.

>>81065845

Maul was Palpatine's student as well. He's also part of the Sith lineage set forth by Bane.

Competing pair. The only thing making Palpatine's pair any more legitimate is the fact that Palpatine won. It's a difference in results, not some sort of inherently greater legitimacy. If Maul and Savage had killed Sidious -- and perhaps gone on to kill Dooku -- they would be the True Sith by default.

>>81065919
>Vader created the Rebellion in the new canon too
I don't know how i'd feel

>>81065938
I just loved the satisfaction of completely wrecking them

>>81065674
Got to agree with the people who don't like the land battles. Those were either boring slogs or constant "fun" of watching your army being raped by long range artillery.

Space Battles kick ass, especially that Realistic Dino Damage™.

>>81065793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2m-zX9mJk

>>81065919
That would be coll and all, but it contradicts 'The apprentice lives' line.

>>81065796
yep, give him some of Rey's skills, trash Rey's Force sensitivity and we're set.

>>81065958
Her Sith name is Darth Citris.

>>81065860
Sins is great with friends.
>>81065897
I always enjoyed the Zann ships

>>81065930
Well, he's already on the way there so you've got that. He was the best part of Force Awakens and crucial to stopping the Starkiller. Unlike a certain person.

>>81065962
I did too. It was difficult and exciting...the first few times. But then it became clear the AI was just too stupid to use tactics.

Fuck Tyber Zann though. Blowing up my factories all the time AND having capital ships as strong as Star Destroyers. Even the Rebels didn't have all that.

>>81065848
Vader is SNOKE

>>81065996
Well obviously he has to play along for his boss, right?

>>81066030
Yeah, fuck Tyber Zann

I'm hoping and praying next week is the week we finally get to see Maul

>>81066063
Weak bait unless you are truly uninformed.

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>>81066049
>Malfoy's dad will never corrupt you

>>81066103
Malfoy's Dad was the best part of the Imperial Inquisition.

>>81066015
>Sins is great with friends.

I wish I had friends that played RTS games. I always get fukkin' devastated by the AI in that game.

>>81066103
Maybe if Inky comes back somehow

>>81066043
So he has his ship bugged? because you can easily turn the coms off.

>>81066103
you mean grand inquisitor?

>>81065919
That does make sense after the Jedi Council basically fucked her over. They didn't treat Anakin any better either, but I don't think Ahsoka would take it as far as Vader does. She still has a moral compass, and Vader wants to erase his past. She may have been abandoned by the council, but the hardships Anakin went through were way more traumatic and were instrumental in his turn to the dark side. Anakin was also being manipulated for years by Sheev. Ahsoka may not agree with the Jedi, but there is no reason for her to take it as far as Vader. She would know her Skyguy anywhere, it'd be obvious to her that Vader isn't the Anakin she loved.

>>81066049
>fuck Tyber Zann

>Rancors
>Nightsisters
>huge armored tanks
>Mandalorian capital ships
>giant space gun ships

Tyber Zann was the most OP crime lord of all time.

>>81066151
Sidious doesn't need to plant listening devices on you to sense shit, though it is a hilarious idea that Vader's suit optics and audio systems feed directly to Sheev's personal computer in his palace.

Also recall that in the new canon Vader had to act as if he didn't know Luke was his son because he found out via Boba Fett shortly after ANH.

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>>81066022

>>81065930
I was on the fence until someone pointed out that he seemed to hear the screams on Hosnia and turned to watch the red beam of doom.

When I first watched it I thought the screams were the shock and horror from the people filing out in the courtyard of Maz's castle but when they cut to them they were mostly silent and the screams of alarm were obviously the same as the crowd on Hosnian Prime.

Could just be edited for dramatic effect but it's still odd.

>>81065274
Anon knows, he just didn't like the skin effect. A lot of people found it offputting. Hopefully they grow out of it.

>>81066209

And then he disappeared from everything, even before canon got wiped.

>>81065897
Space battles were fun at first but then they got really god damn annoying.
>Oh you want to use fighters? FUCK YOU HERE'S A BILLION TARTAN CRUISERS/BLOCKADE RUNNERS/WHATEVER THE ZANN ONE WAS
>>81066030
The worst part about the Zann Consortium is that they can blow up the death star with no warning
Like, you stop looking for one second, turn around
BOOM
Death Star and the entire fleet that was accompanying it were gone along with the planet it was in orbit above

>>81066450
I don't think he was actually in anything except the game

>>81066571
Isn't he in some of the FFG rpgs?

>>81065404
It has to be after the official disc release, then maybe a month or two at the very least for writing, and editing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQbAve5UKvo

so when did Sheev throw Maul to the side?

>>81064753
>muh rule of two

Bane is such a fag.

But so was Krayt.

>>81066684
Probably when he got cut in half and was assumed dead?

>>81066605
Yeah, I feared so.

Why does everyone say Ezra will fall to the Dark Side? So far, I haven't seen him really show any inclination towards it, except for a moment in the latest episode when he gets frustrated at losing to Kanaan and says victory is killing your enemy, which is totally understandable considering he's been living on the run for more than two years.

>>81063822
Did they ever explain why they felt like Korriban needed to be retconned?

>>81065919
But what about Starkiller? Shouldn't he be Vader's Secret Apprentice during these years of Star Wars Rebels? I mean, this is even before Mon Mothma, Bail, and Garm sign that stupid treaty.

>>81066933
Sounds too similar to coruscant and would confuse the regular crowd.

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>>81066933

>>81065404
You want endless fans parroting his reviews again? Please no.

I'll save you the video

>a bad rip-off
>better than the prequels
>much better than the prequels
>pizza rolls
>nitpicking
>prostitute/basement rape jokes
>nitpicking

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>>81066963
>Sounds too similar to coruscant

>MFW I never realised this

>>81066960
Starkiller isn't allowed to be canon any more. JJ stole his name.

>>81067056
Sounds like a TFA thread on /tv/.

>>81065674
The sad thing me and my mod team encountered was the game was butchered. It was suppose to be much more strategic and in-depth. It would've had elements from games like Total War and Rebellion but it was cut up to appease fans.

>all ships have equipment and maintenance drains to the economy
>all X-wings and shielded fighters had abilities to angle deflector shields
>starship boarding
>3 way battles

>>81067226
>but it was cut up to appease fans.
What? What Star Wars fans were going to play this that weren't into strategy games in the first place?

>>81067226
>but it was cut up to appease fans.
More likely it was cut up due to budget constraints

LucasArts wasn't exactly doing well around that time

>>81067216
Is it that bad? I thought they'd throw in random unconnected images of child stars at least.

because that would be so much less dignified and horrible, right?

>>81066895
Because he who makes pottery should see to it that he himself does not become a potter. And if you gaze for long into an kiln, the kiln gazes also into you.

>>81067310
>>81067358
Phrased that wrong. We assumed it was cut to gather a much broader audience. Some of the stuff we uncovered made it seem like it was cut down not to make it too complicated for casual fans. Nevertheless, we found ways to work around the game's scripting.

>>81067056
Most of the nitpicking--while present--was simply for comedy. The videos didn't rely on it. If you thought all of his criticisms were nitpicking that says a lot about your awfully low standards.

I don't even love his videos because the gag of his presentation irritates me more than amuses.

>>81066933

Lucas is the one who decided to make the change. He felt like it sounded too similar to Coruscant.

Why this is a problem is somewhat unclear. I think very few people would confuse the two planets, but the name Korriban might come off as derivative when placed alongside Coruscant. Perhaps that's what he was trying to avoid, and decided to alter the name a bit to make them less similar.

>>81067872
>low standards.
What?

>>81068047
You're misunderstanding him.

Lucas wasn't worried people would confuse the planets themselves.

He was worried they'd mix up the names. GA/the regular crowd are retards like that.

Sure, actual fans of Star Wars wouldn't mix it up, but there are plenty of retards that are part of the fanbase, no matter how casual they are.

Korriban and Coruscant both start the same, it'd be easy to get the names confused.

>>81066933
They didn't really retcon it, just changed the name.

And it really wasn't for the better. Korriban sounds cooler. Sounds way more DARK SIDE

>>81068154
Casuals wouldn't know the names of either planet in the first place. Silly George.

>>81068154

Fair enough.

He also probably wanted to make it sound like the English word "moribund", because pottery.

>>81068224
I'd have preferred he called the Sith homeworld Sleazebaggonia

>>81068139
He pointed out a lot of pus-dripping, gaping problems with the movies. That's not "nitpicking" unless someone has low standards for their entertainment and accept everything without consideration. You're free to disagree with him (and me). Even about his bigger points. He did a lot more than nitpick, though, either way.

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>>81068169
Both sound dark side. Korriban was just following the stupid trope of "Put a K in the name to make it sound 'alien' "

I personally like Moraband better.

>>81068207
Nah, Casuals usually know the names. I know a lot of casuals who can name Coruscant or Naboo.

>>81068224
That's a possibility too.

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Does he really count as Dark Side? He's just a hole, really.

>>81068207

By the time they're this deep into The Clone Wars, they've heard the name of Coruscant approximately 5 billion times.

I think they'd know it.

>>81068358
Kids who watch the show, yeah. But adults wouldn't. I thought that's what we were talking about.

>>81068323
Snoke = Elan Selazebaggano = Plagueis

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

>>81068345
Neither. He's not canon

>>81068386
That's really getting old this late into the game, anon. NOT CANON-posting is practically shitposting at this point.

>>81068386
>Selazebaggano
Sleazebaggano*

>>81068386
Fuck off /tv/

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>>81068383
>he thinks only kids watched the show

Plenty of adults did too. Besides, the name is said in the movie enough times to know the name. Casuals may be stupid, but they'd at least know the name

>>81068169
Do you know it was Korriban in the past? It's had several name changes, I'm still not understanding the big issue. It's such a minor complaint

>>81068207
They do but causal fans get confused pretty easily. See Kashyyyk.

>>81068493
I didn't say adults didn't watch the show.

I said kids and geeks are the ones who bother to learn all this shit. Not the casual adults.

>>81066688
Bane is such a dumbass his plan is for cowards and greedy people. Sith with power will take what they want and make the galaxy fear that power.

>>81068533
>Do you know it was Korriban in the past?

Yeah.

> I'm still not understanding the big issue. It's such a minor complaint

It's just that it sounds better. It'd be equally inconsequential to change Leia to Lucy or something, but one just sounds cooler. That's all, dude.

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>>81068581
Until they kill themselves off with infighting. Bane's plan fixed that problem.

>>81068581
>his plan is for cowards and greedy people.

So....Sith? Those who wield the Dark Side do it for cowardly and greedy reasons. There is no such thing as a Sith who doesn't.

>>81068581
>Sith with power will take what they want and make the galaxy fear that power.
Oh cause that worked out so well before right

So uh...
Is KOTOR II canon now?

>>81068823

Just stop it.

>>81068331
>pus-dripping, gaping problems with the movies
No, he doesn't. He picked out easily explained aspects of the films. The majority of them weren't even problems but his comprehension of them. Then the review devolves into him mindlessly nitpicking. Like Obi-Wan's robes or misunderstanding the relationship between Anakin and Padme.

But his major offense is comparing the PT to the OT. They're both Star Wars to their cores but Lucas went different directions making the prequels. It was not a recreation, it was something new. He completely nitpicked about the Battle of Courscant and it made me question if he actually watched the movie and understood the context of the scene.

>low standards for their entertainment and accept everything without consideration
This is a series with sound in space, wizards with glow swords and talking teddy bears. What high standards are you talking about?


>Even about his bigger points
Like what?

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>>81068612
It's a dead world in "modern" times. I'm positive if we get a series about the ancient sith or old republic it will be called Korriban. What if the name change was because of the Jedi/Sith War?

I understand it sounded cooler when it was a major center but now it's a dead planet with a hollow name to carry its legacy.

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>>81068823

KOTOR II is not canon and will never be canon, BUT

The broad outlines of the KOTOR games may be reconstructed in the new canon.

So it's quite possible that something LIKE the KOTOR games happened, in canon. But not quite the way they're depicted in the games.

Are you familiar with the saying that every legend contains seeds of truth? Think of it this way: the KOTOR games are the legend, full of exaggeration and artistic license and perhaps some outright fabrication. What we're about to see is glimpses of the seeds of truth at the heart of the legend.

>>81068652
It really didn't. I made the entire system incredibly fragile such that any point of failure, as in Master and Apprentice are in a fatal bus crash together and that's it, Sith are dead with no backups.

While I'm sure someone will say, "Yeah but obviously that didn't happen!" we don't actually know that. Fortunately the Sith did think about some level of redundancy via acolytes and assassins, always on the lookout for promising talent to replace either the Master or Apprentice. But that would be horrible. Imagine if crazy Anakin had murdered Obi-Wan, taken Padme to rule as his queen, AND succeeded in killing Sheev. Anakin wouldn't be a true Sith. He wouldn't have any of the secret knowledge or power that even Dooku managed to acquire. He'd just be super aggro guy trying to rule everything while throwing tantrums and - oh shit, without his support suit and injuries he'd be Kylo Ren. That's the exact kind of emperor Anakin would have been without guidance and someone blunting his crazier ambitions.

Anyway for all we know at any point in the thousands of years an Apprentice did kill the Master but the Master kept some juicy secrets, knowledge or techniques. This means the Sith would undergo a slow but cumulative brain drain. They could still be powerful, sure, but they'd be slightly less true Sith as bits of information is lost over the millennia.

Sheev on the surface seems like a champion of the Rule of Two. In fact he's one of the worst. He supports the Rule of two when it benefits him, i.e. he does not tolerate any rivals. He does NOT however share his secrets. He helps you gain powerful, enough to sate you or make you think you're growing under him, but he keeps the best stuff only for himself. Dooku didn't know about the rituals Sheev did and Sheev sure as hell didn't teach Anakin. Maybe it's something he learned from Plagueis: always make sure you never teach your apprentice so much you become unnecessary.

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>>81069069
That said, one of the more surprising ways in which the Sith were left unable to come back was from Lando. The Emperor's secret collection was destroyed and with it untold numbers of secrets and artifacts of unknown power. Imagine what Snoke would have done with that treasure trove.

>>81069120
Hugs are awesome, anon. Thank you for sharing.

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>>81069120
Better version.

>>81069069

I don't think he intended to replace Maul. I think Maul's defeat on Naboo was unplanned.

Dooku, on the other hand, was an old man. At least as old as Sheev himself. That's not permanent apprentice material, because he's going to die sooner rather than later.

Vader was probably permanent apprentice material right up until he got barbecued. By ROTJ, Sheev was definitely shopping for a new model.

There were two paths for him going forward: 1) find someone worthy to be a true successor and pray they don't get maimed or killed. 2) achieve true immortality, the ultimate goal of the Sith, thereby completely obviating the need for the Rule of Two, since if you can't die you don't need an apprentice to replace you.

I'm inclined to think Sheev thought he was very close to immortality, but getting a new apprentice was clearly on his to-do list.

>>81066571

He wasn't. Probably because no comic/novel writer knew what to do with him and weren't interested. We've got Black Sun and the Hutt Cartel, a third superpowerful interstellar crime syndicate would be pushing things.

>>81069174
... So you're saying that Kanan is going to be murdered by his secret Sith son but Hera is preggers with twins?

No wait, Kanan ... chokes his secretly pregnant secret wife Hera who is secretly pregnant with secret twins and then his secret Sith son murders him?

No wait, Kanan still has to choke Hera so she can die... This needs some more work, possibly with a calculator.

>>81069220
Supposedly Sheev's ultimat goal, as per the Tarkin novel, was UNLIMITED POWER to make reality his bitch.

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>>81069174
Improved

>>81069332
Is that the only way people hug in Star Wars?

>>81069220
Based on the Vader Comic, I wonder how Sheev must've felt to have 2 decades of Vader being his apprentice and despite being a crippled strip of human bacon still manage to out do any potential new apprentices up until the younger Skywalker shows up.

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>>81069385
"Uhm, Ahsoka, stop, I can feel your boner.

>>81069220
>I'm inclined to think Sheev thought he was very close to immortality, but getting a new apprentice was clearly on his to-do list.

I can't imagine why he would've bothered looking for one though. He was never going to do better than Vader. In just twenty years, Vader achieved 8/10ths of what power of the force he had. In another ten or twenty, I think Vader could've outgrew him.

I mean really, how in the fuck did he think Luke was going to be a better more powerful apprentice than someone who was the embodiment of the force.

Unless it was meant to be a final test for Vader. But who knows at this point?... Fuck it.

>>81069498
Its incredible how the animation quality has gone down so far. I thought Disney was making money hand over foot what the fuck happened

>>81068918
>No, he doesn't.
Uh huh.
>his major offense is comparing the PT to the OT.
Everything should be taken on its own terms for the most thorough appreciation, but the prequels are prequels. They invite and expect to be considered within the context of the greater story, no different than Jedi in regard to Empire and the original. The prequels aren't simply new, they often sit awkwardly in that context.
>This is a series with...
Trying to imply strict adherence to reality in any way correlates to quality won't get you far. Something can be middlebrow (if you're willing to dismiss the negative connotations of the term--I am) without being insulting.
>Like what?
Cinematography, characterization, acting, dialogue.

Sure, he sometimes puts the original films on something of an unwarranted pedestal, but that doesn't cancel everything said about the prequels themselves.

>>81069443
>and despite being a crippled strip of human bacon still manage to out do any potential new apprentices

I'm still of mind that he was meant to. That Sidious calling them potential apprentices is a lie. If one of them managed to kill Vader, they'd all be quickly discarded.

>up until the younger Skywalker shows up.

Luke really never did out-do Vader. If he had his feelings in check and wanted to, he could've killed Luke within seconds.

>>81069598
Buying off Senators to ensure the House of Mouse never descends into the Public Domain is expensive. Plus there's the annual costs of keeping Walt's head frozen. Oh, and they renovations to turn Epcot into a fully armed and operational battlestation.

>>81069598
Cheapskates

>>81069598

Disney is making money hand over foot.

They're doing so by keeping the budget low so the profits are high.

TCW was also profitable, but Lucas poured completely fucking ridiculous amounts of money into it, as much as he could without making it unprofitable, because his main goal was to realize his vision. Disney wants to maximize profit to keep their shareholders happy, so their priorities are very different.

>>81069598
what are you talking about? that looks fine?

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>>81069791
n-no it's an homage!
Practical effects!

>>81069654
>Luke really never did out-do Vader.
I don't know. I think Vader would've won had he had more focus (to borrow a Sheevism) but it seems clear that Luke is relatively hot shit by the time of RotJ. I don't think it would've been over in seconds, exactly. Might be wrong, though.

>>81069791
gota love that tie fighter cock pit camera

>>81069791
That's the exact kind of thing Lucas liked to do. You can see scenes like that in TCWs too. Should be obvious, though, you have to work to get scenes to match like that. Effort was put into it. Why? Because the pottery must be perfect.

>>81069654
>>81069867
I guess both Vader and Luke were trying to achieve the same thing, just on opposite sides of the conflict. That is to say, neither was trying to kill the other, but Luke momentarily gave into a surge of anger an started wailing on Vader.

Also, Vader never really bought into the Sith thing did he? I mean he did the whole anger and rage but for the most part he didn't do much conspiring against his master before he discovered his son.

>>81069867
>but it seems clear that Luke is relatively hot shit by the time of RotJ.

I'll say that he was getting Jedi philosophies down. But in terms of martial capability, I think Kanan or even the younglings from TCW could beat him. So yeah, maybe not seconds, but if he wanted to, he could've killed Luke with relative ease.

>>81069811
ITS REAL

ALL OF IT

EVERYTHING'S CHANGED BUT NOTHING'S CHANGED

https://vimeo.com/160263943

>>81070102
>I think Kanan or even the younglings from TCW could beat him.
I definitely wouldn't go that far.

>>81070125
You just don't appreciate the POTTERY

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>>81069174
I love poetry

>>81070102
Kanan is nowhere near Luke's level and never will be.

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>>81070001
>Also, Vader never really bought into the Sith thing did he?

He did.

>but for the most part he didn't do much conspiring against his master before he discovered his son.

In Lords of The Sith it shows that it was something he heavily considered. But for the most part Vader was a brutal exaggeration of the Jedi backed with Sith teachings. It wasn't until he learned he had a son that he started going full Sith.

>>81070196
I do appreciate it.

What was that owl thing at the end of the latest episode? I got a super spooky vibe from it.

>>81069791
I was aroused by this.

>>81070189
>>81070223
>Kanan is nowhere near Luke's level and never will be.

I disagree. What we've seen Kanan do thus far is much more refined and skillful than the sloppiness of what Luke was doing in ROTJ. Luke's formal training I doubt even amounted to a years time as he was constantly in and out of Dagobah to fight the Rebellion. Whereas the younglings and Kanan had WAAAY much more training than that.

>>81070282
>What was that owl thing at the end of the latest episode?

Looked like those birds we saw during the Zygeria/Slaves of the Republic arc.

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>>81069120
>>81069174
>>81069332
UH OH

>>81069751
Don't argue with the TCW autists. Nothing can compare to their brain-damaged baby.

>>81070446

>Greg Weisman

>Not George.

Nigger, do you not know that Filoni was George's like actual apprentice?

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>>81065516
In that novel Plagueis's Master, a Bith named Darth Tenebrous (who he kills at the beginning) was secretly training another apprentice, another Bith named Darth Venamis. Venamis was really weaksause though (he didn't even sense the death of his master when he confronted Plagueis at his compound) and it turned out he had been secretly looking into sub-apprentices of his own, who Plagueis goes and kills one-by-one.

The point is, even if you are trained by the Sith, it don't mean your a true Sith Master.

>>81070491
I didn't had another pic of Darth Filoni, white boy.

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>>81070469
>brain-damaged baby.
hm... thats the best depiction of rebels ive ever heard

>>81070527
Don't they talk about somewhat early in the book that despite being called the rule of two,

A)The Banite sith have been violating it at every opportunity, and
B)There's tons of sith pretenders in the galaxy

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>>81070544
>rebels
See what I mean? Brain-damaged.

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>>81070469
>>81070544
>>81070632
Stop.

>>81070603
>Didn't even put the shin guard on his right leg on properly
AMATEUR HOUR

>>81070573
Yes, because the EU was retarded like that. Instead of actually trying to follow the movies, it opted to worm its way through loopholes at every damned chance it could.

>>81070527
Tenebrous looks like a dweeb.

>>81070648
no u

>>81070400
That's more attributed to the fact that back in the ROTJ days we had no lightsaber forms and shit. It was basically just normal sword-fighting. Hard to compare.

>>81070603
he looks cute

>>81070400
That's just serial escalation though. When Luke fought Vader on Bespin, he already bad training, yet both Finn and Rey, each fighting a duel for the first time with no training, had fancier moves.
>inb4 muh mary sue

>>81070751
Reported. Enjoy your 6 months ban.

>>81070726
Isn't basically every nigga using the Dark Side pretty much a Sith pretender? So the Nightsisters would fall under that.

>When Luke fought Vader on Bespin, he already bad training,
No, he wasn't. Vader was actually impressed with Luke's skill. Luke was trained by Yoda for years. He surpasses Kanan by a major degree.

>Whereas the younglings and Kanan had WAAAY much more training than that.
Sure, but Yoda personally trained Luke on Dagobah. This nigga stopped time to train Luke.

>>81070845
Nope. The Jedi and The Sith are not the only two force-using factions in existence.

The Nightsisters are an entirely separate faction.

So are the Dagoyan Masters of Bardotta.

So are the Force Priestesses.

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>>81070833
You seem mad. Are you mad? You sound mad. Have a pic and be slightly less butthurt.

>>81070833
You seem upset anon.

>>81070845
There's a sithload of factions out there, but during the whole rule of two run from Bane to Sheev there was at least two other sith orders lurking behind the scene - lost tribe and Krayt's one sith

>>81070943
>Luke was trained by Yoda for years.

.. More like a few days.

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>>81070951
>>81070996
I forgot to add this ":^)"
I'm not upset,faggots.

>>81071076
Check the Season 2 MEGA in approximately 30 seconds.

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>>81070845
No. Dark Side and Light Side don't exclusively belong to Sith and Jedi.

>>81071166
They sure would have you think otherwise though.

Why do all the aliens have the same skin texture as Maz? To save on 3d effects?

>>81071205
It's like saying anyone who pilots a giant robot is a Gundam character.

>>81070845
The Jedi and Sith are organizations. Ideas, essentially, a specific way of viewing life and the Force. Some jerkoff who starts using the Force on a backwater planet isn't a Jedi, a Jedi who falls to the Dark Side isn't necessarily a Sith. Being a Jedi or being a Sith is something that's taught.

Is JJ the best thing to happen to Star Wars since Lucas? And if so, is that a compliment or an insult?

>>81069791
There is one even better than that but it's easier to miss.

During the pod race in Ep1 Anakin goes up on the service ramp, pulls back on his controls as his pod racer shoots up in the air and then slams it forward again to land in front of Sebulba.

When the Falcon exits the crashed Imperial ship Rey pulls back on the controls as they rocket up and then slams it forward again.

When you consider how afterward she's talking to Finn about how she can't believe their actions lined up perfectly to defeat that last TIE this was the earliest indication of her Force sensitivity. Both Jedi reflexes and the Force subconsciously guiding her instincts. Maybe BOTH of them were guided, depending on if you like the idea of Finn being Force Sensitive too.

>>81071152
>Lower ye shields and come about!

>>81071033
Pablo confirmed time got warped for Luke on that planet. It may have been a few days or a month but it felt and seemed like years. Much like the Mortis arc or Inception.

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>>81070573
>>81070726
>>81070845
The "Sith", in the EU are at various points
>Exiled Dark Jedi who pretended to be Gods to the red skinned natives of Korriban.
>The dark side wielding, red skinned species of nobles on Korriban, descended from the interbreeding of the original Sith and red skinned natives. (First Sith Empire, lead by Naga Sadow). Defeated and exlied into wild space
>At this point it also includes Humans and other species who where trained by the Red Sith Empire in Exile (Old Republic era, human Darth Malgus, Sith Emperor Valkorion)
>A group of dark side users who where fanboys and leftovers of the falling apart Sith Empires (Darth Nihilus, Lord Kaan's Brotherhood of Darkness) who couldn't stop infighting enough to defeat the Jedi and Republic.
>A clandestine, philosophical lineage of one master training one apprentice, working in secret for the ultimate goal of taking over the galaxy and destroying the Jedi (Bane, Plagueis, Sidious, Vader)

Also, Kylo Ren isn't technicaly a Sith but all of his motivations, armor and powers are Sith like, so what the heck is a Sith anyway?

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>>81064262
>thinking any of the Jedi are going to die

>>81071152
That Bazinga Netal chick didn't actually seem like a spy, seemed more like she was just trying to get in on that sweet bounty the FO was offering.

So if I wanted to discuss old canon in this thread, instead of discussion I'm just gonna get shitposted into oblivion, right?

>>81070732
Lets see you become a Sith Lord, bitch.

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>>81071460
You can discuss what you'd like, but canon is like the weakest link of trolling these days. Here or in any thread, since I've seen these fights in /tg/ too.

So basically you should say what you want to say, ignore the obvious trolls (do not engage, reply hide and report the worst) and see what happens.

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>>81071149
BASED

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>>81071460
Of course not, this thread is cool. Come on in, let's talk.

>>81071396
Nonsense. Didn't happen that way in the movie, therefore it didn't happen. It was weeks, in real time, just condensed in the film. Pablo doesn't have a say over the films, he didn't make them.

>>81071495
Just head on over to Hutt Topic for some stick on Sith tats, fake horns, and some Dark Side eye contact lenses and you're good to go.

>>81071434
a sith who somebody who self-identifies as sith shithlord

>>81071460
Of course you can, please ignore the shitposters.

Best EU planet and why is it Jabiim?

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>>81071549
>Didn't happen that way in the movie
>therefore it didn't happen
>Pablo doesn't have a say over the films
Sorry, that's not how Star Wars canon works. A member of the storygroup is word of god.

>>81071593
The best EU planet is Vjun. It's a barren, desolate wasteland world that has Darth Vader's castle and Dooku's cape.

It's basically a planet-sized haunted house. It's great.

>>81071674
Don't forget the acid rain.

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>>81071460
Depends on the day. Right now, you should be good.

Mara Jade time?

>>81071655
Until Disney sells Star Wars to someone else, they take over and establish a new 'canon'.

>>81069120
Secret twist!
Hera makes good on her desire to face what Kanan is facing together with him and shows up for a last minute rescue from the planet
Hera then gets killed in the process

>>81071655
I hope you're going to stop a minute, pull away from the computer, and think about how COMPLETELY RETARDED what you're saying is.

Nothing about the idea of a 'time warp' on Dagobah makes sense. What makes MORE sense is that it took the Millennium Falcon months to get to Bespin because it didn't have a working hyperdrive. Luke was trained during those months. It wasn't years, but it was a decent enough amount of time, and Luke was a prodigy.

Don't you see how much easier of an explanation this is? This was the classic old EU explanation, and it makes perfect sense.

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>>81071593
>Jabiim

It's not. It's Hapes. Prove me wrong.

>>81071549
There'd be no way to know how much time really passed if it was compressed via the Force.

Even then I think Pablo was merely offering a possibility. They toss out stuff like this a lot without having to fully commit, like I recall he said that the new novelization suggested time was strange on Dagobah and of course the events on Mortis barely lasted any time at all in reality. But I don't have his tweet handy, so I can't swear by it. Depends on his language.

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>>81071593
fuckin' Last Stand on Jabiim man...

>>81066684
In the first movie.

The real best EU planet is Csilla. The Chiss need to come back.

>>81071762
TFU's depiction of Cato Neimoidia wasn't bad. All those casinos, sounds about right for the dbags behind the Trade Federation. An entire planet where the house always wins...unless you're a semi-deranged clone hopped up on the Force and love

>>81071819
The Chiss are canon

>>81071761
This. Although, I think it was only 2-3 weeks rather than months.

>>81071674
Fuck I miss Vader's castle.

>>81071819
Kallus was planned as a Chiss originally. They definitely are thinking of them, it was just not to be any more than Ithorian Zeb.

>>81071754
>Hera or Kanan dies
>Sabine the dud lives
what justice is this?

>>81063861
>a one handed dual lightsaber
for what purpose

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>>81071761

>>81064732
>literally edgy

>>81071881
He's a poser. Who else do you think would decide to go with the double bladed lightsaber in a psychic duel?

>>81071881
How else are you gonna dual wield them, Anon?

>>81071897
I'm extremely hesitant to retroactively do this to the OT.

Isn't it just a much simpler explanation that Luke is really, really fucking good? Luke is basically Jesus. That's what he's meant to be in the OT.

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>>81071593
I really like Manaan and Ahto City. I hope when(and if) it gets visited in canon(TCW already canonized it) its similar to the EU.

>>81065796
>Ren never notices the presence of another Force sensitive despite Finn living his entire life with the First Order
That would make Ren magnitudes dumber than he already is.

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>>81071937
Would you take a bite of the Edge Edge Fruit?

>>81071726
>This guy again

>>81071881
You need to go deeper, anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfV6yUUMhs

>>81071976
>I'm extremely hesitant to retroactively do this to the OT.
It was implied in the film itself that Luke was there for a lot longer than what we see. I think Han even said it'd take a while in sublight to reach Bespin.

>Isn't it just a much simpler explanation that Luke is really, really fucking good?

No, because that doesn't make sense. You don't just get good by practicing for a few minutes.

>Luke is basically Jesus. That's what he's meant to be in the OT.
No, he's the son of Jesus who didn't start God training until he was 19.

Even factoring out the whole "Chosen One" thing, he was still just the son of Vader, not literal Jesus. He was more of an assassin

>>81071889
Are these pages in a gallery or something?

>>81072059
he's been scanning it and is gonna upload it when he's done.

I'll add it to the pastebin soon.

Unrelated heads-up, I'm in the process of uploading the EU books to the Legends MEGA.

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I am still bummed that we know nothing about Snoke or what his deal is.

I cant get over how light the info about the universe was in TFA.

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>>81071983
Nothing that gets visited in the new EU is going to be as cool simply because of Disney's being stingy.

Imagine if they go to somewhere like that in Rebels? Or to Hapes or Nal Hutta? The city is only going to be like four blocks with flat textures, boring clothing, and reused assets everywhere. They whole city will be populated by Tua clones and it'll stick because now everything is canon.

>>81072032
At that point why not just have a light shield?

>>81070527
Did they keep some of his back story canon?

Space Cruiser Designer by day, Sith Lord by night.

>>81072133
Nal Hutta is already canon, and quit being so pessimistic. Rebels Season 2 has a much bigger budget and looks great.

>>81072154
Very little from Darth Plagueis is canon.

This is all we know about him:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Plagueis

>>81072133
Nar Shaddaa is just as busy as in the EU. But only seen in a comic.

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>>81072174
>Rebels Season 2 looks great.

You Disney shilling right now?

>>81071786
Which comic is this from?

>>81072261
It was just an example. It could be applied to anything that might appear in Rebels.

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>>81072262
No, I'm speaking genuinely.

>>81072271
Star Wars: Republic.

I believe issues 55-58

>>81072293
Meh, there was a planet with cities in Rebels season 2 that didn't look so bad. You can get a lot of atmosphere from good matte paintings. I love Lothal's capital city, for instance and a lot of that comes down to landscape artists.

>>81072399
It can be characters too. Kanan and Ezra look fine in Rebels, but I think their outfits looks dumb in comics.

>>81072215
I meant from his Master, Tenebrous. But from what I can tell now the Plagueis book is not canon, so I guess not.

>>81072262
Go bait somewhere else, bitch nigga

>>81072475
Yeah Tenebrous isn't canon at the moment. If he does become canon he likely won't be a Bith.

What are some good old continuity comics? I haven't read a whole lot, but I noticed the MEGA has some.

>>81065032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1yHo2oAzk4

I like him.

>>81072598
check this list out

https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing

Can someone explain to me why Nien Nunb is being shoehorned into everything lately?

>>81072112
TFA's enthusiasm for getting shit moving is admirable, but the status quo and Snoke himself are kept murky in a dissatisfying way. It makes the gravity of events difficult to grasp, especially given the somewhat unfocused plot.

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>SS using her lightsaber as a helicopter rotor.

wut.jpg

>>81072875
I felt like I've brought this up several times for general discussion, but something about Snoke just keeps irking me.

Specifically on how he is so publicly known, allegedly.

Sheev, despite being the ruler of the whole damn galaxy, kept his force powers hidden to just about everyone but 5 dudes.

Snoke, and what he is, seems to be basic knowledge. Leia knows it was him that corrupted her son.. but how? Where did this dude just suddenly come from? When he decided to be public, did he also just decide "oh hey I also use the Dark Side HA!" ?

>>81072863
He was a feature character in the final arc of Twilight Company I guess? I actually appreciate them including him in Battlefront as a nod to that.

>>81073000
You'd think Luke would have noticed the presence of someone as evil as Snoke.

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>>81072863
>lately

It's not a recent thing.

>>81073000
>Snoke, and what he is, seems to be basic knowledge. Leia knows it was him that corrupted her son.. but how? Where did this dude just suddenly come from? When he decided to be public, did he also just decide "oh hey I also use the Dark Side HA!" ?
Yeah. It makes Leia, Han, and especially Luke seem uncharacteristically fucking stupid, apathetic, impotent, or all three. It rubs me the wrong way.

>>81072948
I doubt she's flying. She's just spinning it for an attack.

It's a good trick

>>81072640
andthenyouwilldie

>>81072948
Very Victory Gundam.

How can i see the videos in the Rebels season 2 mega folder so i dont have to download ALL the folder? I just want the last episode. Thank you.

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Post your favorite Jedi.

>inb4 a million Kyle Katarns

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>Twilight of the Apprentice
>Apprentice
>not Padawan
>Sith Apprentice
Obviously Vader isn't going to die, but I doubt Ahsoka is either. The season finale is gonna be a conclusion to Maul's storyline.

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>>81072112
>No explanation for why the First Order can afford to convert an entire planet into a death star on steroids, and yet their claimed technological advancement is entirely untrue
>Why Leias PMCs are called the Resistence when they are technically a part of the dominant political power
>No explanation for why so many of the New Order troops/officers are so young
>No info on the Knights of Ren or Snoke at all

I get that you cant make the whole movie an info dump, but put some of this shit in the books at least.

>>81072863
Because he's adorably ugly.

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Any ideas what this owl is up to?
>>81072948
Lightsaber generate heat, so if you spin in very quickly it will heat the air around enough to generate stable flow to raise you.
This technique is forbidden for Jedi, because old masters didn't like when students are flying around.

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>>81073417
Team Kenobi.

>>81072863
His mouth is somewhat vulva-esque.

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>>81073169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7kZjBp5Eno

She is kinda just hovering in with that thing.

Fucking flightsabers.

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>>81073418
>The season finale is gonna be a conclusion to Maul's storyline

>tfw we'll never get old man Obi-Wan fighting him in the desert decades later

>>81072875
I STILL don't understand the relationship between the Resistance and the Republic. Maybe I'm just stupid, but it's been explained to me several times and I'm even more confused than I was at the start.