It's about to hit the 20s folks

Now this is just getting ridiculous. This currently has a worse RT score than The Room.


Even Snyder couldn't have fucked up THAT bad... could he?

>>81059628
Is the money that Disney is using to pay reviewers to give this a bad score coming out of Civil War's advertising budget?

Will DC/WB recover from this?

>>81059628
Dawn of Just

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What does DC stand for?

>>81059628
The actual rating isn't moving much though. 5.2 to 5.1.

>>81059791
Nice meme

>>81059816
Dick Coddlers

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>>81059791
>this is what buttblasted DCucks actually believe

>>81059816
Deceptively Childish.

>>81059791
>DC isn't allowed to fuck up on its own, it has to be SOMEONE ELSE'S DOING

>>81059628
Just curious do you go back to RT and check periodically or are you sitting there spamming the refresh button

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>>81059791

>>81059816
Damaged Comics

I don't understand. I saw it, it was alright, but it wasn't THAT fucking bad

>>81059791
OR maybe....just maybe, the movie is shit!

>>81059816
Dead Company

>>81059791
Hanlon's razor, you unbelievable retard.

>>81059628

>Audience rating keeps going down, previously was at 80% yesterday

oh boy, that ain't good.

>>81059628
>audience score is dropping too

lol

I'm guessing it'll be at about 65% by this time next week at least.

>>81059628
>It's about to hit the 20s folks
Watching this is probably more exciting than watching the actual movie.

>>81059628
YAWN OF JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP

>>81059816
Detective Comics.
(Yes, this means that the full name is Detective Comics Comics).
The "detective" in question is Batman. Which should tell you why he's who DC pushes the hardest and at the expense of everything else.

>>81059816

Damage Control

Can we make a petition to kick Zack Snyder off of DC projects?

I know it probably won't do anything. But still.

>>81059956
>>81059958
Predictable though, only rabid fans see it on the 1st day and immediately review it online.

>>81059791
Disney might've paid off some reviewers but there's no way they paid off so many reviewers that it's made this much of an impact. Also, Warner more than likely paid off reviewers too.

>>81059789
The Room is a bad movie that's incredibly entertaining. BvS is a mediocre movie that makes you wish it would just end, but then doesn't, it just keeps going and going and at no point gives you any reason to care about what's happening beyond like 3 good scenes in the whole 2 and a half hour long runtime.

I'd rather watch 2 hours of Tommy Wissaeu awkwardly throwing a football around with his bros than sit through yet another scene of characters drearily pontificating.

>>81059982
Well after this they most certainly aren't going to be pushing anyone but Batman ever again.

>>81059946
Wouldn't this also fall under Occam's Razor?

>>81059796
Nah, it will still break billion like Bayformer but I hope WB realize they lost potential moneys they could have gained from good reviews. They need to change director before JL production starts.

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>>81059912
The best thing about all of this is the memes and outrage. Fucking love it.

>>81060005
>>81059791


The hilarious part is that imdb is full of day old accounts rating BvS 10/10

>>81060017
>Fires Zack Snyder
>Hire an even worse director

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>>81059816
Disheartened compatriots

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>>81060005
Even if Disney paid off reviewers, the fact that the audience score is dropping at a rate of about 8-12 points a DAY should be a sign something is up.

Instead people here are going "No the children are wrong! The entire medium is corrupt!" I honestly hope I never feel so attached to something that I act that way towards it.

>>81060012
Yes. Hanlon is more accurate here though.

>>81060082
That's what I'm saying, bud.

>>81059628
Reminder modern film critics are idiots who hate anything that isn't dumbed down for children.

BvS is a really good movie.

>>81059932

This. I didn't hate it but it's not great

>>81059796

Suicide Squad looks pretty good. Wonder Woman has a fairly lauded director behind it. They'll be fine.

>>81059628
This movie is gonna be a case of critics hated while audiences loed

>>81060124
Deadpool

>>81060078
my fucking sides.

MAN OF MURDER

BATMANSLAUGHTER

>>81060154
Was awful, what's your point?

>>81060124
Did you win the bingo?
>>81059912

This shouldnt of happened, THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE FUCKING HAPPENED! How do you fuck this up? We got a director who had the tools at his disposal to kickstart the DCEU, and he ultimately used those tools so he could wank off to his own "clever" symbolism. But of course WB is also to blame, because they felt the need to shoehorn every fucking setup for the next 3 years so they could play catch up and not once thinking it may be too much too soon. Fuck WB, Fuck Synder, and Fuck everyone involved who screwed over Cavill and Ben for trying to salvage it

>>81060145
Let me ask you a serious question
What would it have taken to get you to hate it?

>>81060133
What's up with all the Jesus imagery? Isn't snyder a Jew?

>>81060082
>Instead people here are going "No the children are wrong! The entire medium is corrupt!" I honestly hope I never feel so attached to something that I act that way towards it.
It's not that unusual that people are mad that it's gotten bad reviews. They're going through the 7 stages of grief.

I'm going to see it Saturday. Kind of dreading it. Feels like it's going to be a chore.

>>81059796

The WB? No. They made too many bad investments for the last... what, 15 years now? Remember when they bought America Online? Then that crashed. Then they bought Time Magazine because, you know, the magazine industry was just doing fantastic. Then their movie studio started releasing dud after dud while they invested more and more money into each one. Like... normally I would say Warner Brothers is "too big to fail" but holy crap they have made some phenomenally poor decisions so I don't know exactly WHAT will happen. Probably start shuttering divisions and studios and selling them off?

>>81060078
Can some one photoshop JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP eyes on batflek?

>>81060078
Why didn't Superman tell that family to limbo Zod's lasers?

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>>81059628
>everyone will agree this movie is shit
>JL starts filming in two weeks
>bvs is guaranteed a major opening, even though its probably going to have a massive drop off in sales
>there isn't enough time to replace snyder
we still lose, OP

we still lose

>>81060212
He's a Christian Scientist

>>81060133
I guess this has been deleted from the spoilers, I got you brother.

From BvS scenes

>5 sec shot at the Wayne family mausoleum of a paiting of an angel with blue clothes and a red cape
>Supes coming down from the sky as an angel
>Bats lift Bruce towards heaven
>Batman pulls down superman and is caught by Lois as an image of Jesus being pulled down from the cross and being cared by Mary


He must have thought that Man of Steel was too subtle. There's really no other explanation.

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/wb-batman-v-superman-faces-high-expectations-1201729887/

Clocks under a billion they'll consider it a failure.

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Good, one less comicbook movie.

Seriously, has there been a decent live action comicbook movie since Ghost World?

>>81059628
I've been staying out of this. Didn't even realize it was going down.

...

wew

>>81060222
It was Time Inc. that bought Warner Communications back in 1990, when magazines WERE doing fine

It was AOL that bought Time Warner in 2001, and mismanaged the company

Neither of those things have anything to do with this, but I do wonder why WB has been so poorly-run for so many years

>>81060188

If the battles were like they were in MoS where Superman gave no fucks about collateral. He tries to take Doomsday off word, nowhere near the sun so I have no idea where that comes from. And while he is manipulated to fight Batman he initially tried to talk to him to get his help . Superman is the hero of the story if you ask me Batman was hat they got wrong

>>81060124
>BvS
>fuck, anything made by zack snyder
>not dumbed down shit
lmao, g8 b8 m8

>>81059628

>JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
>JUSTICE LEAGUE: DAWN OF SHIT

>When you realise there's a very probable chance it will end up lower than Green Lantern.

>>81060212
Raised as a Christian scientist. Even if he was Jewish, that doesn't mean he can't use Christian imagery. Evangelion uses tons of Christian imagery, do you think Anno or any of the other Japanese staff on that franchise are Christian?

"It will get better as more reviews are added", they said.

>>81060153
audiences are hating it

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reminder that people bought those

>>81060289
Batman had a hardon to beat up Superman because "muh employess"

>>81059816
DESIGNATED
KEKS

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Im going to leave this here

>>81059816
Dick Cunt.

>>81060181
This, fire Snyder and his hack wife and everyone involved in this shit but Keep Ben and Henry and the other actors (fucking give Ezra a hair cut tho).

>>81059789
Months from now it'll settle at a more reasonable score.

The movie is bad, don't get me wrong, but the reviews are SO low because people were really hoping for more out of this movie. Disappointment colors an opinion pretty harshly.

it looked pretty bad. for me the final straw was the whole thing about batman killing, made me totally disinterested

>>81060153
The audience score keeps dropping and it's not even out everywhere yet.

Zack Snyder, September 18th 2015:

>I feel like he’s right. But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman. They’re not just, like, the flavour of the week Ant-Man – not to be mean, but whatever it is. What is the next Blank-Man?

Sebastian Stan, December 5, 2015:

>I would say we’re still making something very original in our own way. I mean, the Russos are coming in and taking something people are used to and they’re shaping it up and changing it in a very different way. They’re not trying to mimic a better Christopher Nolan movie or something like that.

Murderman vs Batslaugther BTFO by fucking Ant-Man. And not even Pym, fucking Scott Lang.

>>81060340
Hey, it started at like 11%. Technically it has!

>>81060410
Started at 0, technically, since the first one was a Rotten spanish one. No way but UP!

>>81060359
Wouldn't something like this hurt the overall box office numbers?

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>>81060272
>Ghost World

>>81059796
WB is a giant company that has many different offshoots, so yeah.

DC franchises ... probably yeah. They still make tons of money on games (Arkham series is successful, Injustice was successful, DC universe online... is that still a thing? not sure), they have cartoons, etc.

Their comics is outsold by Marvel but neither of big 2 actually make that much money on actual comics anyway. And they are still the 2nd most successful comics company, they are in no danger to be outsold by, say, Image or Dark Horse.

DC movies - I guess that depends on how SS and WW will do. They will not cancel those.

>>81060385
Oh Erza's hair is already taken care of now, its just for some reason they decided to use shots before his makeover.

>>81060272
scott pilgrim, i'm not even joking

>>81060359
Oh that Ultimate Ticket, those poor bastards

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>>81060359

>>81060437
Not if it sacrifices 1 or 2 theatres where it is actually available, and if the movie is good enough from word of mouth. Also they probably don't have priority seats.

>>81059789
I'm baffled by the score, and I'm a Marveldrone. Apart from a few visually stunning, but ultimately useless scenes (mostly dream sequences), I loved the movie. The fact that, say, Age of Ultron is at 75%, while this is stuck at 30% is ridiculous. ANd I'm saying this with all my love for Marvel.

>>81060456
Teenage girl detected. Don't you have a local band's bass player's nuts to handle?

>>81060457

Hey, I'd buy an Ultimate Ticket if I knew it would ensure that I get to see the movie as many times as I want. That number of times being zero.

>>81060272
American Splendor.

>reminder that what works well for one hero in a line doesn't work well with the other hero's.
>this is a lesson DC/WB should have learned when going from batman to superman.

>>81060446
DCUO got BTFO by a superhero MMO based on a 1980s RPG.

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>he only consolation for DCbros is that the movie will gross a billion bucks

>>81060388
If you ignore all the memes thrown out in defense, a lot of the complaints seem to be centered around the fact that the movie's first two acts are a jumbled (and even worse, tedious) mess of wooden speeches and sequel hooks.

That's not the kind of flaw that gets better with time and hindsight. That's a little too objective to be just a knee-jerk disappointment reaction. If anything the forgiveness of that kind of flaw is what fades over time.

>>81059789
It's a mostly mediocre movie with good and bad parts to it, but it was hyped up to a ridiculous degree so it's mostly going to be viewed as disappointing at best.

It's basically Thor movies and Age of Ultron tier but Marvel has good and favorably looked upon movies, no Snyder, and established relationships, so people overlook it or think it's just fine.

>>81060153
>This movie is gonna be a case of critics hated while idiots loved

fixed

There's no doubt the Bayformers and Man of Steel crowd will love the shit out of this.

I am going to be honest here.

I was hoping for a great movie and I liked enough Man of Steel.

But BvS is just a chore, from editing to most of acting.
I liked Batfleck and will watch his trilogy (if it still happens) but this is definitely a bad movie.

What I am trying to say, imagine if you wereiexpecting a premium steak at fancy restaurant but instead waiter brings you expired chicken with mint sauce,pineapples and onions.

4/10 from me.
Didn't enjoyed it at all, but gave me some hope for standalone Batman if Afleck gets to direct.

Snyder NEEDS to fuck off.

>>81060505
Which one do you mean? I don't follow MMOs at all

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>>81059816
Redundancy.

>“anything under $1 billion in worldwide box office will be a disappointment.”

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/wb-batman-v-superman-faces-high-expectations-1201729887/

>>81060437
It gets them more money though, because people will buy the ticket for more the the price of one, but only want to see the movie once.

>>81060476
>, and if the movie is good enough from word of mouth
That's never a good thing to bank on. Especially when the predecessor movie had poor word of mouth. ESPECIALLY when studio goes "People probably won't be smart enough to get it" a week before the damn thing is even out.

>>81060534
I enjoyed it much more than both Thor and AoU. There were a few parts that were dragged out, but overall it was good.

>>81060517
That's a bad thing for us tho. If It makes a billion then Zack stays on. Best case scenario is they make their money back but fire Snyder and get someone competent to head the DCEU.

>>81060556

So the international market might save it, but it'll fizzle out very quickly in the states.

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How many more chances will this guy get at making movies?

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Daily reminder that the last two times a company failed this hard, they had to cancel the universe and reboot.

Also, what's Marvel's first failure gonna be? My bets on either Civil War or Doctor Strange.

>>81060585
So right about now they're praying to the Chinese?

>>81059789
I didn't even like BvS that much but no way does it deserve that low a score.
Age of Ultron has more than twice the score while being about the same quality ffs

>>81060605
Captain Marvel

>>81060605
Panther. It will do well in the States, but the International market couldn't give a fuck about the character and China won't even buy that movie.

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>>81060605
> Marvel's first failure gonna be? My bets on either Civil War or Doctor Strange.
MY FUCKING SIDES

>>81060605
Black Panther

>>81060605
Incredible Hulk was their first shit movie. And it was their second movie.

>>81060585
Most definitely. The Chinese have ZERO taste.

>>81060597

I look forward to the JUSTice League movies.

>>81060633

Yep, it's China or bust.

>>81060605
>Marvel
>Failure
>2016++

>>81060017
in order to break a billion it needs to make the predicted $350m global this weekend, but you need to understand that comes from in some areas 3 extra days of release (it came out on the 23 and 24 in a couple of dozen countries)

if it isn't doing well there and the reviews put people off, it cannot make $350m this weekend, which means it cannot break a billion because the formula for predicting each successive week is (roughly) half what it made in the previous week, not including the extra days of release prior to the first weekend

so if you make 100 the first week, you'll make 50 the next, 25, 12.5, 6.25, 3.125, and so on until you're making very little after about three months and you stop showing; the very rare exceptions to this make relatively shallow drops between weeks, and sometimes show increases on the second or third weekend over the preceding weeks; they don't make money solidly for three months, however, and there is always a tail-off effect as audiences seek something new out instead

however with the weekend Zootopia just had, it's likely a lot of people will go see that again instead of this; so it's going to lose out there, and it's true that there isn't a lot of direct competition this weekend but there are still alternatives with better reviews and now word of mouth, all of which hurts this release

in any case with a global first weekend of $350m, since the 4 days following tend to be 50%, it could only have been projected for $1,050,000,000 - and that was prior to the reviewlocaust; say it makes $200m this weekend world wide (which is respectable) it'll end up on something like $600m after three months, which is a big gross - but not big enough for what they've spent

>>81060605
Marvel is much safer than DC due to the overall tone of their comics.

Marvel is much more easy going and less grimdark than DC which means it is easier to mix a lot of popular genres like comedy,drama,romance and uplifitng themes.

DC digged their grimdark hole and their paragon that SHOULDN'T be grimdark (Supes) got a movie that ends with 9/11 times hundred.

>>81060605
>Dr Strange
Cucumber's fangirls will literally prevent this from flopping.

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>>81060605
I'm guessing Dr. Strange, if anything at all. 12 Years An Evil Wizard and Tilda Swinton the Old Asian Man are just bizarre casting choices.

>>81060679
and it still has more than twice the score bvs does

>>81060605
>Also, what's Marvel's first failure gonna be?
Inhumans, no question. And that's so late in the game, that they've basically already solidified their dominance.

>"Bruce, listen to me, I don't want to fight"
>Proceeds to pimp-push Batman across several yards.

>>81060605
Yeah their first failure was Incredible Hulk. If Iron Man hadn't done so well the same year there wouldn't have been an MCU.

>>81060649
>black man china failure meme

>>81060572
I know. But WB put all its weight on a broken leg. Sony did the exact same thing.

These things need more heart than this. I know it's tiresome at this point, but both FOX and DC need their own version of Feige. Despite anything anyone might have against him, he defends the directors and understands the source material well enough for it to work, and Disney always goes for the long game.

Marvel Studios is just the new Pixar or Animation studios, and it shows in their hierarchy, the guy that goes to set and picks everything talks to the CEO directly, there are no layers of suits in the middle. Unless the times where there are (the more 'important' movies financially, where they kind of fuck up (IM2/3,Ultron), but even now they've kicked everyone out but the directors and Feige, who reports only to bob iger. I guess they do have someone, but it's Snyder :-/

DC and FOX don't have that luxury, and by god does it show. Only their indie shit that isn't on the balance of losing the rights the producers care nothing about actually get surprising results (Deadpool).

>>81060658
Superhero fatigue, man. With BvS tanking so close to release, if Civil War isn't perfect it's going to get panned.

>>81060605
Inhumans 2

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>>81060704

Im actually livid at the incompetence WB has shown the past couple of years. They are literally sitting on a money printing machine, something Marvel has been doing for years with literally who characters mind you, and WB STILL cant fucking get it right. But the sad thing is if and when they finally unfuck themselves no one will care.

>>81060719
Bruce was yelling in his face, dude, you'd do the same

The thing that stuns me is that the problems in BvS are the exact same problems with Man of Steel.
- The pacing consists of a plodding and tedious first two acts with a bum rush of action for the entirety of the third.
- The actors given performances that consist entirely of wooden expository soliloquies rife with symbolism and overacted hammy catch phrases in lieu of characterization
- Plot points aren't explored to any meaningful resolution, because "this will be covered it in the next one"
- A frantic disjointed narrative of scenes that don't build on each other, visually stunning perhaps, but like a jigsaw puzzle made from a dozen different sets.

(Notice I said absolutely nothing about tone or humor and people will still pretend that's what I'm talking about).

The writing was on the wall with the LAST movie and none of those flaws were fixed. And yes, critics DID point out those flaws last time around too. How could they not? They were painfully obvious!

>>81060711
yeah it's not bad, it's just not very good

>>81060744
>Superhero Fatigue

> Ant Man

>>81059628
I'm seeing this in about an hour.

I'm thinking about making a "bad superhero movie" bingo card and bringing it. Any suggestions?

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All the outrage, shitposting and shitflinging is more entertaining than the actual movie.

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B-but the Rated R version will be better, r-right guys?

If DC and Didio don't demand their own studio with minimal WB oversight after this, then they are officially retarded.

>>81060605
Civil War won't fail because it can coast on Winter Soldier and Avengers hype.

Strange won't fail because of Cumberbund and the fact that Marvel has turned even C-listers like the Guardians into a box office smash. Hell, even Ant-Man did well enough to get a sequel added to the line up.

If anything is going to underperform, it's probably going to be Inhumans, at which point Marvel will have blown its load on Infinity War and most people won't be as invested anymore.

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>>81060758

>>81060739
So they need a good producer who likes and understands comics? Who would even fit that criteria?

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>yfw Devin Faraci and Drew McWeeney were right

>>81060733
It's not about failing, it's about the fact that it won't even get a chance to be shown to the general audience. China has a strict limit on foreign movies, I doubt the local market would take a risk like Panther.

>>81060605
Honestly, with their new slew of directors, I don't see it happening. Maybe Avengers 3 slightly underperforms, but there's no 'flop' ahead of them, really. Only Derrickson and Reed are the weak links, but the former has Feige looking over him to put on his favorite hero and the latter has already proven himself with the first ant-man.

Disney knows how to play the critics game and how to keep people coming back: make reasonably good movies with good characters. Their "flop" was Age of Ultron, and it wasn't that bad at all.

>>81060683
That's not good. Marvel has always had a greater stranglehold in Asia (thanks to all their bug superheroes) and that only got stronger with Iron Man and AoU pandering to them.

>>81060799
Wb literally does not give a fuck about them, anon.

>>81060820
> Ant Man

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>>81059917

>>81060767
only a nut would do that

did you never learn this? someone who is screaming in your face is trying to provoke you into anger, because when you're angry you just react - you don't plan, you don't use that fabulous grey matter of yours, you just react

which means if they've planned ahead they will be getting you to react according to their plan, not in any way that could possibly benefit you

>but

listen, if the whole of the last three years was about Batman getting crunk with his buddies and trying to glass Superman outside the club, we could have just had a movie about that instead without all of the rest of this shit

>>81060767
Even with Martha's life on the line.

>>81060739
>DC and FOX don't have that luxury, and by god does it show. Only their indie shit that isn't on the balance of losing the rights the producers care nothing about actually get surprising results (Deadpool).
In the case of Deadpool, Reynolds was their Feige equivalent. He want to bat for that movie so much it was fucking ridiculous. I honestly feel like buying a second ticket even if I don't make use of it just to support his effort.

>>81060061
George Miller is the producer. This was WB's contingency plan all along.

>>81060789
Lens flare use
Blurry, shaky fight scenes.
Gaping plotholes
Villain without clear motivation
Pointless angst

>>81060799
In my mind is Didio and a giant anthropomorphic DC logo in the WB logo's office.

>>81060744
It could happen the opposite, they will definitely compare both movies and I can see them giving Civil War some bonus points for not botching it like BvS even if its just super mediocre.

>>81060823

Well, there goes a potential $200 million.

Warner Bros probably makes (and spends) more money on Game of Thrones (and HBO on general) than this.

And it's probably good. We've got the Golden Age of TV, while on cinema side, we got shit like BvS and all the YA crap.

>>81060807
I honestly have no idea. I don't think a lot of people fit the bill, honestly. George Miller or Bruce Timm?

But then there's the problem that that producer will answer to the 3 guys before the guy that pays for it, so it's more than just that.

>>81060904
I hope. The movie would get pushed back a year though.

>>81060744
Dude Civil War is going to be compared to BvS and that alone will make people want to see it.

Civil War could end up mediocre like Age of Ultron but it not being BvS will give it an advantage.

>>81060807
Reboot the universe with The Flash directed by Raimi.

>>81060807
Kevin Smith probably.

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>>81060940
>We've got the Golden Age of TV

HAHAHA

I'm still amazed at how bad this movie is getting blasted. I didn't expect 10/10 ratings but almost 20% on RT? Geez. Batman vs Superman of all things. Two iconic characters failing this hard.

>>81061002
I don't think he'd be that great a producer. Bruce Timm, maybe.

>>81060982
Everyone except Luthor is fine. You just need change the faggot in charge.

>Yfw this was Jon Peters plan all along
Who's ready for Superman vs a Thanagarian Snare Beast?

>>81060833
Ant Man isn't black

>>81059628
> Ant-Man carried by the few Wright scenes gets 80%
> Thors get 70%
> Avengers 2 gets 70
> BvS gets 29% when it should take 6/10 close to 7
> This hypocrisy

>>81061018
I know, right? I thought this movie would be safe from bad reviews just based on fucking Batman fighting fucking Superman.

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>>81059628
>all those perfect 10/10 from all these snyder sheep that haven't even seen the movie
>still has a 78% audience score
how do you fuck up this badly?

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>>81061039
>this was an actual marketing tactic they used

>>81061039

>HOLDING THE IMAGE HOSTAGE FOR EXTRA SHEKELS

OYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY VEY.

>>81061047
Really?

Two characters that everybody already has opinions on not getting scrutinized and nitpicked to death?

>>81061039
I'm go ahead and hope that is a vertical panning shot.

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>>81061039
What the fuck

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>>81060223
somebody already did, anon

>>81061006
Not that anon but you really don't think that we're in the golden era of television with all of the shows that premiered in the last five years?

>>81060961
What if it was led by a triumvirate of George Miller, Bruce Film, and Geoff Johns?

>>81060605
I don't think that Marvel is going release a flop. Remember that they have Feige in charge of the whole MCU. That guy knows his stuff. WB has non of that. They gave to much power to Snyder and it shows.

>>81061027
They would laugh at Bruce Timm out of the room. DC needs a Marvel Studios of their own. WB will make sure that never happens.

>>81061018
I still don't get how "iconic" translates to "good movie" in people's minds. I'm more of a Marvel guy, and that seems like a very "DC" thought process, so maybe I just don't get it. But haven't we been shown this enough already, with relative no-name superheroes debuting to rave reviews, and famous ones being in shit? There is no correlation between the two things. Ultimately, the most "iconic" characters are the ones that have been in the larger public consciousness the longest. That's it.

>>81061129
No. Has to be one guy, otherwise the work comes out schizophrenic.

>>81061002
As dumb as this sounds, he has been a better producer than director so it could work.

>>81061173
Well then just George Miller, I guess.

Was it just me or was the fight choreography in the Knightmare sequence pretty bad? None of the punches connected.

>>81059789
Really the only thing that can save the DCEU now is people pinning all the blame on Snyder and WB then trashing Snyder.

Kinda like people saying Age of Ultron sucks because Whedon fucked up and now he's not working on any of the next movies coming out.

>>81061109
Yeah but i meant for that pic that anon posted. But fuck that pick was not wrong.

Everythings fine

Its just a fluke. Squad is a funner movie, and Wonder Woman wont be attacked because women. Zack wont be dropped from Justice League, but less of his style will be felt and there will be more test screenings to ensure good reviews.

>>81061018
I saw Superman IV in theaters when it was released. It deserved to fail.

>>81060739
I put a lot of Deadpool's success on the people working directly on the movie, actors included. They had everything against them and now we live in a universe where Deadpool's, Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy did better than a Batman Superman movie. The mind boggles.

>>81059628
>Audience score is the same as Thor 2
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
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>>81061039
>Makes Standard not even fucking work for the shot to try to convince people to see the IMAX.

>>81059628
This movie isn't great, but it shouldn't have fallen lower than a 50/60%. This is just getting a little vindictive at this point and critics are being huge faggots. AoU and First Class were worse than this movie.

>>81059932
It either had to be the next coming of Christ (in time for Easter) or an unmitigated abortion. No middle ground.

>>81061216
>less of his style will be felt and there will be more test screenings to ensure good reviews.
lol

But yes I can see SS and WW doing just fine if they just disconnect it from BvS as much as possible.

>>81061217
I still think Superman 4 is better than Superman 3.

Superman 4 looks like shit, but at least it has a heart. Superman 3 is just... odd.

>>81060153
DENIAL
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We can save this people, we just need to ditch Snyder and pray to god SS doesnt JUST itself

>>81061042
>BvS gets 29% when it should take 6/10 close to 7
>close to 7
no. this movie is a 5/10 at best, more like a 4/10.

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>>81059816
Dick-sucking Cucks

>>81061285
WB is the real problem here. Ditch Snyder, sure, but you're only treating the symptom.

>>81061039
/v/ here. holy shit, is this some kinda DLC for movies?

>>81061244
Score doesn't represent how much critics liked it, it represents how many critics liked it.

None of the critics are being vindictive, they just didn't like the movie.

>>81061042
>Ant-Man carried by the few Wright scenes gets 80%
Nigga, Don't you start talking shit about Ant-Man. The movie overall was good

>>81059628
Shit this movie might end up being a cult classic

>>81059791
Do you really think WB is above paying for reviews for the movie they've built a universe around?

>>81059789
Almost all of the positive reviews of The Room are ironic "so bad its good" reviews. Nobody really thinks it's a good movie.

Kind of dumb for RT to code those as "fresh" reviews, though. It'd be more accurate if any review putting something in the "so bad it's good" category counted as a negative one, even if the critic enjoyed it.

>>81061323
>falling for fucking obvious bait
sasuga /v/

Critics also panned Blade Runner and The Thing, which both are the best if their genre, so I can confidently say that critics don't know shit.

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SAVE US DAVID AYER!
SAVE US GEORGE MILLER!
DO SOMETHING WB!

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>>81059628
Soon.

>>81061316
Someone needs to hack WB so they can get their shit together

>>81061348

Not him, but how is that bait? That's the literal picture being used for advertising.

It's an 8/10 movie for me

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>>81061312
I know right?

>>81061316
Well that goes without saying really. The optimist hopes WB would actually learn something from all of this

>>81060388
>Months from now it'll settle at a more reasonable score.
Nah dude. Most of the reviews are already in. You're looking at a 1% difference one way or the other when the rest come in.

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>>81061312

So who's at fault here? Snyder? Goyer?

>>81060798
At least we'll see Man of Murder and Bat of Manslaughter in their natural habitat

Anon's, I'm so fucking depressed.
I wanted BvS to be good so bad that ignored all of the obvious signs. I shitposted anti-marvel shit, even tho I really enjoy a lot of their films. I held out hope even when the reviews came tumbling down. I honestly enjoyed Man of Steel for what it was, but this was supposed to be different. This was the trinity on screen for the first time. I fucking love DC and I just wanted a good Movieverse ;-; but of course they blew it.
I wish we could all forget this disaster and move on ;-;

>>81061217
>I saw Superman IV in theaters when it was released.

hey grandpa

http://www.themovienetwork.com/article/warner-bros-allegedly-concerned-about-batman-v-superman

Friendly reminder that they tried to warn us and we didn't listen.

>>81060181
WB could have accomplished the same thing giving the tools to a room full of monkeys. Having the tools means jack if you are too stupid to use them.

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http://superheronews.com/zack-snyder-looks-absolutely-crushed-by-poor-batman-v-superman-reviews/
>Ben and Henrys faces

Fuck

>>81061478
Studio Executives

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/03/24/batman-v-superman-inside-the-making-of-a-super-pricey-blockbuster-bomb/

>Shares for Warner Bros. parent, Time Warner, plunged more than 25 percent last year, and have sagged another 2 percent since the reviews emerged.

Rats are abandoning ship, guys. Forget Rotten Tomatoes, the real entertainment is going to be watching WB's plummeting stock numbers over the next few weeks. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>81061404
Holy shit, I didn't realize it was this close

>>81061543
>the movie is too smart for people to understand

>>81061520
They've invested too much planning this movieverse to abandon it. They're trapped in the best position for fans: one where they'll have to boot Snyder if they want to double down on their plans.
If Suicide Squad is received better than BvS (it has more views than BvS), WB is going to remove Snyder for sure.

>>81061312
>>81061425
>>81061474
The choice of hats is making me laugh althoufh Marvel deserves a fedora sonce one of its editors wears one.

>>81061551
executives like making money so i don't believe that.

>>81060437
It's surefire money, plus the people who bought those tickets would probably drag other friends with them

>>81061607
>WB is going to remove Snyder for sure.
Not if this makes money, they won't.

>>81061354
Critics hate all genre movies though except ones that are dramas pretending to be genre so it's a little different.

>>81061607
Dude, with the reviews this is getting I'm just hoping Suicide Skwad doesn't become a fucking laughing stock.

I'm at the point I'm praying the casual little Hot Topic sluts come out and support teh Harley. I just need my Aquaman movie.

>>81061615
That's what leads them to making bad decisions look at Amazing Spider 2, Batman and Robin, and Green Lantern.

>>81061545
They had so much hope. Also from that other thread:

>Henry
Why... don't people like me...? I have a cape... and a big S... it's Superman.... what's wrong guys...?

>Ben
WHO THE FACK ARE THESE FACKIN REVIEWERS? I'LL SMASH YER FACKIN HEADS IN, FACKIN REVIEWERS ARE A BUNCHA FACKIN HOMOS

>Zack
I... there are many comic books... I love comic books... my vision... I... remain true to the fans... I think the fans will... (jesus, I'm finished aren't I?)

>Amy
I'm a real actress, thanks for the check, give a fuck about your kiddy movies. Where's that card, oh here it is, "We all really respect Zack's vision, we all really hope the fans like it..."

>Gal
Acting is fun! I love being actress! I love movie and want to make more movie with acting!

>Eisenberg
I am le artist and am simultaneously self deprecating and immune to all criticism, I am charmingly befuddled by all human interaction

>>81061650
Their stock price went down by 2% since the reviews for this movie came out. They're going to remove Snyder for sure.

This makes me sad. Why don't American critics enjoy serious cape movies? BvS isn't perfect, but I think it deserves a 75%-85% score.

>>81061545
They knew it was shit and they've got nothing to whine about now.

>>81060222
WB made enough off the Harry Potter franchise to keep them alright for awhile. Rip DC :(

>>81061354
Who is this asshole that keeps bringing up Blade Runner?


The 80's Theatrical release was garbage.


>executive meddling
>tacked on happy ending
>superfluous voice over for the entire film

Nobody gave a damn about Blade Runner until the 1992 Director's cut was released with Ridley Scotts restorations.


Scott never had final cut for the theatrical release.

>>81061723

Because apparently
serious = huge problems with pacing and tone

>>81061545
I honestly feel sorry for them.

Snyder give his best, but unfortunately it isn't enough.

The only thing left now is the audience response and box office numbers.

>>81061673

Deadpool just came out, breh

>>81061707
Ben seems more like he knew this was coming.
>>81061723
They do when it's well crafted.

>>81061707
>yfw this low score is because the critics have it out for Eisenberg after he made fun of them

>>81061723
They enjoyed Blade 1 and Blade 2, The Dark Knight and Winter Soldier just fine.

They just don't enjoy shit.

>>81059912
piss jars?

>>81061545

>DAWN OF JUST

>>81061707
>http://superheronews.com/zack-snyder-looks-absolutely-crushed-by-poor-batman-v-superman-reviews/


This is probably far more entertaining than the actual film.

>>81061789
Eisenberg is just a piece of shit in general and the audiences don't really like the movie that much either. But the thing is that other actors are douchebags just like Eisenberg and their movies still get good ratings because they're actually good movies.

>>81061798

This movie features a literal jar of Lex Luthor's urine. This is not a joke.

>>81061786
Apart from a few dream sequences the movie can do without and perhaps the Day of the Dead scene that was pure scenery porn, everything else connected well.

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>>81061838
Holy shit.

You know what DCfriends, Im sorry. This was funny at first, when the bad reviews started coming and watching the Kinofags struggling to defend the movie, but now I just feel bad. Expected its score to at least get to 50 or 60.

Im sorry guys, you deserve better.

>>81061723
>Why don't American critics enjoy serious cape movies?
You're a fucking retard if you think this is the reason people hate this movie.

>>81061791
Both Blade movies and WS have a lighter tone to them.
The Dark Knight was admittedly a better made movie, but I don't think the script was better than this.

>>81061545
They look so wounded, except for Affleck. He looks mad as all hell.

>>81059628
>That discrepancy between the critics and audience
Future cult classic confirmed.

>>81061723
I felt that the critics were harsher and less forgiven than necessary.

It's definitely doesn't deserve 30%.

>>81061838
>Mall cop
>reviews counted 113
>BvS
>174 reviews counted

Shit on the movie you want but comparing films like this is retarded. Not even /v/ is that silly

>Zack's under contract
>Warner Brothers literally can't stop him from making all the way to JL part 2
>he's not getting better

>>81061845
Eisenberg made a jab directly at critics though. Although I personally thought his article was hilarious.

What are the chances George Miller is brought in to salvage Justice League?

>>81061785
Superhero movies aren't genre, they count as action.

>>81061919
The audience rating is growing lower by the day.

>>81061786
Ben Affleck has been in enough bombing movies to know when shit is going south.


Gili.

Daredevil.


he's seen this shit before.

>>81060176
>DCucks are this delusional.

>>81061838
....who are the 33% who enjoyed Paul Blart Mall Cop.

I cannot imagine such a person, let alone movie critic.

>>81061889
Thank you for the sympathy

All I really want is less threads

>>81061889

As someone who enjoyed the Thor movies and thought they were legitimately good (great world-building, art design, inter-universe politics), and has had to suffer several years of being shit on by DC fans...

They do not deserve better. They are reaping the wretched crops they have sown.

>>81061970
At this point capeshit might as well be a genre.

>>81060769
not enough quips for you?

>>81061982
You don't need to actually know anything in order to get a movie reviewer position at some shitty local newspaper in a flyover state.

>>81060483

I also saw it, and I can honestly say your opinion baffles me in ways I can't even describe.

Not even angry, it's your opinion and that's fine. It's just...hard to see.

I can't see how anyone can really like this movie for anything but the limited Bats/Supes fight.

>>81061838

WELL FOLKS, WE KNOW WHAT TO WATCH NOW.

>>81061838
It's basically a meme to say this shit is worse than hitler. It's not THAT bad. It's also unanimous that it's better than MoS but the scores don't reflect that. It's weird. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's not hot garbage, but still. A 20 something%

>>81061970
That's like saying westerns aren't a genre.

>>81060597
Legend of the Guardians was unfair.

I liked it. It just wasn't a kids movie.

>>81062039
Holy shit, I just realized this movie is a worse AoU.

There is ONE good scene in the middle (Hulkbuster, Batman vs Superman) and the rest is average to trash

>>81061325
It was good because it had a good script, despite some bullshit additions like the fight with Falcon, but the movie only looks good during the shrinking scenes; Reed is a serviceable director but not much else. I wonder what they'll do now that they have to write a story from scratch.

>>81062039
I liked the party scene and all the Clark/Lois and Bruce&Alfred scenes.

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>>81060223
We live in an age where the Lego Batman movie will probably be a smarter film than the first live-action cinematic meeting of the two greatest superheroes of all time.

>Batman v. Superman: Dawn of JustFUCK MY SHIT UP

>>81062026
Oh, those are actually reviews for the first Paul Blart Mall Cop, not the second one.

The second one has 5%, as it should have. Because it's pure garbage.

Ok I get it now. The first one is not good, but I can get why some people can like that.

>>81061766
So what you're saying is that the director's cut of BvS could redeem the movie?

Diana had literally 16 lines in the movie, and only the party scene did she show any emotion in.

>>81062097
Nah, AoU far worse for me. The thing about it is that the moment I left the theatre, I couldn't recall anything interesting about the movie.
BvS has some serious flaws, but there are a lot of visuals and even a few jokes that stayed with me.

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HOW YOU WANT YOUR TIMELESS COMIC BOOK CHARACTERS ADAPTED TO FILM, FAMILIA?

>>81060502
There was a movie?

>>81062184
Vision is a better character than anyone in BvS

>>81062169
People are only praising her performance because she was a different face. You spend two hours looking at an emotionless Cavill and the hammy Eisenberg, any new face brings the movie up. Even if it's just the generic perfect grrl power Gadot Wonder Woman.

>>81062097
Both also overuse dream sequences to establish sequels.

>>81061478
Having seen it, I would say both. Weak script and hammy symbolism are what sink it. Unlike others I thought the cast was honestly great, and had some really good chemistry. I would love to see them act together in these roles again, but with...y'know, better writing and direction.

the problem is that people that aren`t fans wont understand it... its a complex movie for everyone that hasn't read the comics... believe me... i just got out of the theater and hear some people criticizing it.. its obvious that they didn't understand it.. i always said... the dcu is a incredible story narrated nolan style... not just one movie
like interstellar but only showing the first 10 minutes of it... you need to see the rest of the universe to understand the movies

>>81060320
>do you think Anno or any of the other Japanese staff on that franchise are Christian?
I don't know. Why couldn't they be?

>>81062184
What DCuck. You're in the minority. The world prefers AOU to B v S.

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>>81059628
Even I wasn't expecting this. I wonder how the conference calls are sounding atm

THIS MOVIE WAS STRAIGHT UP GARBAGE

DO NOT SEE IT IF YOU CARE AT ALL ABOUT BATMAN, SUPERMAN, COMICS, OR ANYTHING GOOD IN GENERAL

FUCK

>>81062057
Westerns aren't really action movies though, some are, some aren't.

>>81062240
We'll just have to agree to disagree. Vision literally felt like part of the scenery to me, the most memorable thing about him was how he grew a cape when he saw Thor.

If you don't watch the movie based on the rotten tomato score you're a fucking idiot. The film is great it's all just critics expecting the campy nonsense of marvel films. Marvel has literally destroyed Super hero films.

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>>81062253
Fucking Interstellar

>Love is a universal force

It's a force alright. A chemical force for fucking and procreation. What a load of horseshit. Gravity and the Martian were far better.

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>>81062272
I'm actually a Marveldrone, but whatever. I stll preferred BvS to AoU.

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>>81061545
Amy Adams looks like she's about to cry.

>>81061615
They like making money, this is true.

However - they're under the false belief that the key to making money on movies is to rely on spreadsheets and statistical analysis rather than just letting artists make good movies.


When a studio hires a competent director and then gives them the freedom to bring on some great actors, writers, and VFX guys and just do what they do best - you get Men In Black

When a studio meddles in every fucking aspect of a film's production, resorting to design-by-focus-group, and picking staff and actors based on what demographic appeal boxes they tick off instead of their talent - you get Men In Black II.

This is just getting sad.

It's to the point where cape movies are treated as different rival sports teams.

It's become trendy to shit on anything DC does.

So I just came back from the movie, I actually didn't have any expectations for this and I'm not that into DC. Thought the movie was pretty bad, maybe DC fans will like it more? I don't know.

Want to know anything specific or what I thought were the strong parts/bad parts?

>>81062158
>>81062158
Was Snyder forced to do anything he didn't want to do?

It sounds to me like he got everything he wanted.

BvS is almost three hours long -- no one is telling him to cut anything.


And like Zack says in his interview: he doesn't know how to do it any better.


Where Blade Runner was a case of a good director being held back by a studio that didn't understand his movie.


BvS is a case where a dumb studio gives a bad director everything he wants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqR9IOrVFPU
Is this review accurate?

Synder looks like he's having his balls chopped off.

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>>81062253
>you need to see the rest of the universe to understand the movies

>>81062298
>DO NOT SEE IT IF YOU CARE AT ALL ABOUT
COMICS, OR ANYTHING GOOD IN GENERAL
Sounds like /co/ would love it then.

>>81061545

I can't watch it, it's too awkward and painful. I think it's disrespectful to take people to task right after this happens.

I don't blame the actors, I blame hack-Snyder, bad writing, and exec decision-making.

>>81062399

When a sports team loses most of it's games, it deserves to get shit on.

>>81062331
Interstellar was fantastic dude. I get that some people view life through a more scientific lense and some believe love is a concept outside of science as well. But I dont think that should matter for your enjoyment of the film too much, It's just a nice message.

The Martian was dope though.

Are studio execs aliens?

Every story I've heard about them makes them sound like they think differently from everyone else on earth.

>>81062240
Vision was barely a character in AoU.

>>81062473
Worse. They're Jewish.

>>81062415
Yep, I felt the same.

>>81062451

Addendum: Actually, I do blame Eisenberg. He was fucking awful.

Oh come on, it can't be that bad. Sure, BvS could be bad but I highly doubt I'll dislike it on the same level as Green Lantern

Jesus fuck, Affleck looked like he's about to kill himself in the last interview.

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>>81061312

>>81062473

They spend all their time in ivory towers with yes-men, so they get out of touch. All their outside info comes through people trying to put a positive spin on things and not get fired.

Who here is gonna see it tomorrow?

>>81062538
Better or worse than how he appeared to be in the trailers?

>>81062542

It's worse than Green Lantern.

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>MEANWHILE AT MARVEL HQ

>>81062557
He probably is.

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>>81061545

Oh my God. Why would you do this? Why would you grill these people right after opening?

Leave the actors alone, they did what they could.

>>81062473
Why do you think so?

Try to read the leaked Sony emails. If anything, they are pretty human and normal.

Except they are usually rich and also Jewish.

>>81062589

It's like they turned Lex halfway into the Joker, with his giddiness.

He was as petty as Luthor, with none of the class, subtlety, or presence.

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>>81062557
E-everything's fine, anon

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Know what the best part of this is? Even if Civil War only gets a 70% or something, we can still say it's better than BvS!

>>81062655
Fuck.

>>81062615
I'd be more worried about Henry.

Dat Superman Curse...

>>81061545
Isn't it weird? The other day I watched MoS and I couldn't help but think...

Big studios have immense talent and resources at their disposal... actors that are good and experienced (or at least above the rest of the crop), the design is in the hands of amazing artists, all the technicians and peopel at work on the movie are probably experienced and high-tier. This is a multi-million budget movie, yet they somehow manage to make such a horrible shit. Does nobody ever question what's being done?

I mean holy shit, Russel Crowe must have stopped for a moment and said "wait what the fuck is my character doing here exactly?" or something. How is it possible to fuck up on such a basic level?