Worst Character Thread

>>81047001
Three points of view is done right for all three of "the friends". It's done without a soap opera feel, which is super fucking rare.

so how long was the time skip between the final battle and when matt revealed himself to karen?

it felt as if they hadnt been speaking for a while

It felt like the same night, but it was probably the next night.

>>81047001
That's not Foggy.

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>>81047013
>It's done without a soap opera feel

>>81047258
Don't use memes you don't understand.

She will be bullseyed

Karen at least has some interesting developments in S2, such as revealing to Matt that she's kinda ok with killing criminals. Foggy isn't so bad either as he stepped up from being useless goofball to competent lawyer.

Elektra was by far the worst character on S2, detracting from the much better Frank storyline and literally not contributing anything to Matt's character other than making him fall head over heels in love with a murderer for some reason.

>>81048030
>Karen at least has some interesting developments in S2, such as revealing to Matt that she's kinda ok with killing criminals

That was such a great scene in how it was handled, it felt like two actual people having a discussion on a controversial topic when someone lets slip an opinion. At the risk of flinging company wars shit, Arrow doesn't handle these kinds of scenes nearly as well. Someone will deliver some overdramatic one liner then walk out while theres a close up shot of Oliver feeling guilty.

>>81048062
>close up shot of Oliver feeling guilty.
this is why i don't need to watch Arrow past s2

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>>81048009
Don't say things that aren't true.

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>>81048127
>My experience watching every single episode of Arrow

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>be angry at your boyfriend/boss who's barely shown up for what might be the most important case of your life
>visit him at home
>a sassy, blind old man opens the door
>your boyfriend is standing by his bed in which a weak and sick looking woman is lying
>still somehow manage to maintain your anger and not want to know what the fuck is going on

What the actual fuck, writers?

>>81048159
to be fair, most people have the right to be angry with just the first point

it's not Karen's fault Matt didn't explain shit

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>>81048148
>that macro

>>81048017
What if it's Foggy who gets bullseyed instead of Karen for the twist?

That's not Nobu.
Fucker should've stayed dead.
>generic Japanese crime-lord not counting the superpowers
>robbed Bullseye of one of his most iconic moments
>has no menacing presence
>pathetic fighter compared to S1 Nobu

The show spent so much time building up Frank, Nobu felt like an afterthought.

>>81047001
She and Foggy ruing the damn show.

>>81048390
Yeah and the way Nobu died in the end was completely disappointing

Why the fuck did they re-use that guy

>>81048390
I just wish he wasn't the final boss of the season.

>>81048411
>>81047247
>hating BASED foggy
but why?

>>81047001
I really don't understand this board's hateboner for Karen. She's a good character and serves a good purpose in carrying the storyline when a focus on Matt and Foggy's mutual bitchfit gets too dreary. I like her interactions with Frank and the anti-JJJ especially.

>>81048564
He's an uggo but still gets the girls.

Dude must be fucking hung.

>>81048167
he tried to though and she just stormed off

he shouldve tried harder but still

>>81048178
>Killing based character instead of worst character.

I'd stop watching
I'd hate to see Matt's turmoil anyway

Fellow Karen defenders in /co/

>feelsgoodman.jpg

I knew her Karenning would tick some people off but at least someone other than me appreciates her.

>>81048713
if I was her I would've punched him desu.

>>81048390
>pathetic fighter compared to S1 Nobu

He was the same, DD just levelled up.

>>81048659
>I really don't understand this board's hateboner for Karen

she's a woman who criticizes the MC.

Was Nobu in the comics? I think I was one of the few people on this planet that got saddened more by Nobu's death than Elektron.

>>81048807
that's not really fair. Claire puts DD on a lot of shit and people still like her.

>>81048825
Because she's well written and a good actress. Karen's actress can't deliver a line to save her life.

>>81048807
i'm probably the biggest Karen fanboy on this board but even I can see how her constant boner for danger without proper fighting ability and credentials makes her annoying.

dare·dev·il
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also when she pulled the trigger on Wesley I fucking fistpumped.

>>81048506
There isn't any.

>>81048861
It was cool but I still miss Wesley desu

>>81048030
>literally not contributing anything to >Matt's character other than making him fall head over heels in love with a murderer for some reason.
This is actually a pretty huge part of Matt Murdock's character

>he's the kind of man that hurts people

fuck you karen, matt only ever tried to protect you

even if he seemed negligent he was never malicious or anything

still cant believe she said that

>>81048942
yeah but it wasn't fun at all. i watch daredevil to be entertained. this show barely has a plot and they try to ham-fist philosophy. please no.

>>81048952
That dialogue was only there to make Frank think she knew about Daredevil.

Also she was irrationally pissed. Like a real human bean.

>>81048796
It's still disappointing.
After going from the best fight in the entire series (>inb4 hallway) to being so boring makes me wish Nobu stayed dead.

>>81049036
Then go watch Avengers. DD as a franchise got where it is from writers treating their audience like adults.

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After this season Stick is the worst character on Daredevil. There isn't a contest. Half of what he does makes no sense, every other line is some cryptic bullshit, and he straight up ruined the Elektra sub-plot with his shitty tweests (both of them). Elektra before Stick showed up was an exciting, interesting character who made Matt exciting and interesting. Their relationship was just as compelling as the Punisher story. Making it all about Stick took that away.

Season 2 would've been unequivocally better without him. Season 1 used him correctly. A single sort of one-off episode. Anything more is too much. He's a gimmick.

>>81049175
I disagree. He was fun to watch and served as a good vehicle to explain the Hand/Chaste thing to the casuals.

>>81047001


Can someone explain what was the point of having her spend most of the first season with Foggy? It was like she rarely got any scenes with Matt. Was this to establish Foggy as a beta? I don't get it.

>>81049302
me too. he was an ultimate asshole but he was an entertaining asshole. Matt being an asshole to his 'friends' wasn't as entertaining.

>>81049339
bad writing

>>81049339
What's weirder is that Foggy almost seems to be trying to help Karen and Matt hook up in early S2, and then acts all shocked when it happens.

>>81049396
maybe because it happened too fast? the moment they went from heartbeats to being together in a span of 3 episodes I knew this relationship was doomed by TV rules.

I'm not done with S2 yet, but for me Karen Page has been one of the best characters to observe in the show.

I know something big is going on, but I don't really give a shit to the ninjas and shit like that. Her goal to help Frank was way interesting than that Hand shit.

>>81048888
>>81048861
It was like jacking off to some real fucked up porn. It feels really good at the climax but then you start thinking about the implications and how much you'll miss Wesley and then you get sad.

Haven't finished s2 yet. Please someone tell me she finds out about Matt. I just watched the episode where Matt saves them from the machine gun by hearing it way before anyone could possibly have heard it go off and Karen doesn't even think twice about how he actually managed to do that.

This fucking trope is the worst thing about superhero stories. It needs to end. There is literally no reason, not one, for Matt not to tell her when everyone else already knows. This is the same level of retarded as Flash s2 where he refused to tell Patty after she already figured it out.

>>81050057
Last episode.
At least Frank figured it out from the get-go.

she just seems comically naive and generally doesn't seem to realize she's dealing with life and death stakes